1 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: Podcast listeners, This one's for you. It's the Immediate Reaction podcast. 2 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: Warriors Celtics Game four just happened. We got two no 3 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: dunkers in the building for such a freaking great game. 4 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: It's the Bearded One, Tray Herby Hey Hey, and the 5 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: International Man of Mystery. 6 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Lea's Friends Friends Friends Friend Lele. 7 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm tas Bellis, But who cares. We just had a 8 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: great Warriors game. That's what people care about. What a 9 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: what a wild one? One O seven ninety seven The 10 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: final score the last five seventeen of this game, when 11 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: the Celtics had the lead, they only scored three points 12 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. It was a seventeen to 13 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: three run for the Warriors at the end of this game, 14 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: forty three for Steph when all is said and done, 15 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Trade just first reaction to that thing you've saw live. 16 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: Unbelievable to me that the Warriors came back to win 17 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: this game. Marcus Smart hit a three with a to 18 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: put the to put the Celtics up ninety four to 19 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,639 Speaker 3: ninety and that's when I thought the lid was gonna 20 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: explode on this building. It was so loud. I was 21 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: getting ready. My dad had just texted me. He said, 22 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: is it loud there? I said, yeah, it had been. 23 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: Right after the Jalen Brown lay up. They go to break, 24 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: eventually come back, Marcus Smart hits that three. I'm ready 25 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: to text him it's even louder right now. I thought 26 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: the game was over in that moment, but then Stephen 27 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: Curry completely took over the last three minutes of this game. 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: Pulled off an incredible move, dribbling I don't know twenty 29 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: seven times to finally lose Robert Williams and hit the 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 3: silkiest eighteen foot running floater, a shot you only want 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: Stephen Curry to take get into the line a little 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: bit later. Curry carried the Warriors throughout this entire game. 33 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: Took him a while to finally put some points on 34 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: the board in the fourth quarter, and then he could 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: not stop scoring. I thought it was cool to see 36 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: Klay Thompson hit a big shot in the fourth quarter, 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: and even Draymond Green, who had a very weird game. 38 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: At one point, Curry got double teamed. They dished it 39 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: to Draymond and he found Looney under the hoop for 40 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 3: a layup. That was a huge play as well. So 41 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: I mean, if the Warriors end up winning this series. 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: The Celtics are going to look back on these last 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 3: three minutes and really really kick themseelves for how it 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: went down. 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nuts that Marcus Smart scored five eighteen 46 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: left and then there was that wild foul that they 47 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: had a little and won there, which seemed like it 48 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: was way after the play. But then a run where 49 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins offensive board score, offensive board scorer for Andrew Waggins, 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: two straight possessions like that the clay shot you mentioned there, 51 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: then the clerk Curry dancing on Robert Williams, and the 52 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Celtics went called there, Lee, did you feel like they 53 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: had it there at the end? 54 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? I did, and Trey and I were up here 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: in the rafters and it sort of had a bit 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: of a feel to Game three there where we sort 57 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: of thought, listen, the Warriors just can't really stop the 58 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: Celtics from scoring. They were scoring okay themselves, but every 59 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: time Boston needed a basket, they tended to get one. 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: But tonight that wasn't the case there down the stretch, 61 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: and Boston started to get a little bit nervous. I 62 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: think they maybe were starting to look towards Game five 63 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: and thinking, hey, maybe we can close this out in 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: San Francisco, but that won't be the chance now because 65 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: they have to go there to win the pivotal Game five. 66 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: And honestly, for the Golden State Warriors, they just this 67 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: was a must win. They did it. They win on 68 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: the road as they always do, the Celtics lose a 69 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: one at home as they always do, and Golden State 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: probably just feel like, hey, Steph took a huge game 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: from him tonight, but I bladge have brought up Andrew Wiggins. 72 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: He quietly had a very very productive game seventeen points, 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: sixteen rebounds, and he finished the plus twenty and he 74 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: just seemed to find himself in the right place at 75 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: the right time there because as we've seen before from 76 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: the Warriors in this series, they didn't get another guy 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 2: really in their flow. Jordan Pool had a couple of baskets, 78 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: and play had a couple, but no one was out 79 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: there really lighting it up. Andrew Wiggins just seemed to 80 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: get himself in the right place at the right time. 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: But I think as well, if you go back to 82 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: that first quarter when the Warriors built up a big lead, 83 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: or not a big lead, but established a small lead 84 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: there and Steph to walk in trash to the fans. 85 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 2: He was up for this one. He really really wanted it, 86 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: and he went out there and proved it tonight with 87 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: just an incredible forty three points. He picked up ten 88 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: rebounds there himself, but seven for fourteen from downtown fourteen 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: for twenty six. Couple of sloppy turnovers, we saw that 90 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: from both teams there tonight, but obviously in the end 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: the Warriors closed it out and very very impressive victory. 92 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, when he came back on after sitting at the 93 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: beginning of the fourth quarter, which were you know, tight 94 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: butt whole minutes for the Golden State Warriors. There he 95 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: came on and yeah, through the classics, Steph over my 96 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: head pass and it sure looked like this is going 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: to go the Celtics direction. Yeah, I mentioned you mentioned 98 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: the Jalen Brown plays there where he looked great, and 99 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: that's where Jordan Poole air quotes shoved Marcus Smart in 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: the back and got in and one, which was a 101 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: terrible call. But then it felt like, yeah, the Celtics 102 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: were free. But Andrew Wiggins big offensive board. Andrew Wiggins 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: another big offensive board which were key because, as you said, Lee, 104 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: the Warriors didn't seem like they had anyone going. But then, yeah, 105 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: the Celtics go double Curry, Clay gets a big three 106 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: Curry hits that floating twelve foot push shot you mentioned 107 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: Trey where he danced on Robert Williams where people will say, wait, 108 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: don't you telling me. 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 3: That was only twelve feet? That was only twelve feet. 110 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 3: It seemed like it was at least twenty feet. In 111 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: my mind it was one centimeter inside the three point line. 112 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 3: That was That was beautiful. 113 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: It was beautiful, and maybe twenty feet in the air 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: because it was it was a bit of a moon bar. 115 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: But I know, I don't know if you guys felt. 116 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: People in the building must have felt like Steph Curry 117 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: double dribbled on that play, right because Smart touched it 118 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: and then he started dribbling again, but he did actually 119 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: touch it. And the Celtics faith all were pissed, but 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: I guess they get pissed about everything. The atmosphere in 121 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: the building just in general. 122 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: Tonight loud and proud, and they were raw and they 123 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 2: were ready to party, no question about it. Every time. Again, 124 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: when the Warriors made a little push and the Celtics 125 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: counted and they usually got two or three possessions. Clear. 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: It just had that feeling that people it's a Friday 127 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 2: night as well. Everyone's out on the town. They're ready 128 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: to go crazy. And then just as the Warriors got 129 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: that the lead, they're late. I noticed, and I'm looking. 130 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not going to tell on the 131 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: Celtics supporters, but I noticed a few people in the 132 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: heading for the exits a little bit early there. They 133 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: could sense it when it was it was about six points, 134 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: and I said to Trey, I said, six points, minute 135 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: and a half to go, two minutes ago. Feels like 136 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: it's about ten to fifteen points though. Here just the 137 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors just knew all they really had to 138 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: do was run out the clock and get the ball 139 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: into STEP's hands and they'd probably be safe. So I'll 140 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: tell you what though, I mean, obviously we're coming back 141 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: here for at least one game. This building has been 142 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: so crazy and so loud. I can't imagine what it 143 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: will be like in here for Game six. It's going 144 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: to be huge, huge, I tell you. 145 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: So, you say we're coming back, does that mean you're 146 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: going back for game six or you just mean the 147 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: Celtics are playing. 148 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: Another long Well, maybe I'll be back. I don't know, 149 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: we haven't haven't really talked about it, but yeah, I'd 150 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: love to come back here. I mean, it's been a 151 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: great experience. It's been a great couple of days up here, 152 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: and the games have been awesome as well. So I'm available, tass, Yeah, 153 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 2: if you want to send me coffee. 154 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: Culture is so big here that leaves fitting in really, 155 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: really easily. He's one of the locals already. I think. 156 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: Also a huge point for with regards to the comeback 157 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: and the fourth order for the Warriors was when Robert 158 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: Williams went down with whatever injury he sustained late in 159 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, because I thought he was dominating the 160 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: paint for the majority of this game, all over the glass, 161 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: all over, you know, just basically out jumping Draymond Green 162 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: for offensive rebounds and put backs and really keeping the 163 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: Warriors away from the paint. When he went out in 164 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, the Warriors finally started getting a few 165 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: baskets near the rim and were able to make their 166 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: own place on the offensive rebounds. And that's when you 167 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: saw Wiggins kind of come alive on the offensive glass 168 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: as well. He was a consistent presence all night, but 169 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: you really felt him there in the fourth quarter once 170 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: Williams was out. So we'll see how, you know, as 171 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: this series continues, as it has been since Game one, 172 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: is Robert Williams gonna be okay to play? He seems 173 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 3: to play every game. He seems to have a huge 174 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 3: impact when he's out there. But that was that was 175 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 3: a key missing piece for the Celtics down the stretch. 176 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've played him a ton, and they played him 177 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: even more because Jalen Brown gott and foul trouble in 178 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: the first half. He played thirty one minutes the most 179 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: of his finals run here, and you can tell that 180 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: he's injured even when he was quote unquote healthy playing 181 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: this game, because he would sprint during plays and then 182 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: he would just be lumbering just physically, just you could 183 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: see when he wasn't involved in the place, he's just 184 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: dragging his legs around. But thirty one minutes also, I 185 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: think was a big deal for him. They don't want 186 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: to play him that much, but they did because he 187 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: was such a presence. As you mentioned, Trey and yeah, 188 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: Wiggins was big on the other end, playing forty three minutes. 189 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: They needed every single one of his minutes. A big 190 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: reason why Wiggins played forty three minutes because Draymond Green 191 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: also was polled by Steve Kurse seven to thirty left 192 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: in this game. They sat him, and they did put 193 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: him back in with three forty left, but then they 194 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: immediately took him out defense for offense. They took him 195 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: out after one play. Now he did come back and 196 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: he did make a big offensive rebound and set up 197 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: Kevon Looney for that layup Tray as he talked about, 198 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: which pushed the lead to five with the minute left. 199 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: So he did some things out there. But he'll definitely 200 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: be talking on the pod about that Steve Kerr pulling him, 201 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: and he'll be pretty I think a plotting of Steve Kerr. 202 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: But as you said, a weird Draymond game Tray. 203 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. It was the right move to 204 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: pull Draymond when the Warriors needed, specifically offense. I think 205 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: he threw large stretches through most of the first half. 206 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 3: I thought he was maybe the worst player on the court. 207 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: There were so many times when he was just almost traveling, 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: just bringing the ball up the court, or you know, 209 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: there'll be a fifteen foot sag off of him and 210 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: it's hard for him to make a play in that scenario. 211 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: He didn't get his first basket until the second half 212 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: of the game. However, once the game gets close again, 213 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: after the Warriors are able to make the comeback they did, 214 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: then it is nice to be able to bring in 215 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: a defensive presence like Draymond Green, especially now that the 216 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: Celtics are missing Robert Williams, so a little bit more 217 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: space for him to operate inside as well. Kerr played 218 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 3: Draymond's fourth quarter minutes pretty well. I thought, maybe not 219 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: the entirety of the game. Some of the rotations were 220 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: pretty hard, but at least in the fourth quarter, I 221 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: thought he nailed it. Dramond needed to set for a 222 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: little bit, and when he came back in he had 223 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 3: an impact. 224 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: I can. 225 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: I was just gonna say it was a bit risky 226 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: at the start of that fourth quarter when he had 227 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: Steph off and it was be elites of time out there. 228 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: They managed to survive those minutes, but Try and I 229 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: were just like because Steph came in and Clay came 230 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 2: out and he stuck with be Elita there look, I 231 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: guess he's out there to try to spread the floor 232 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: and you just hope he only needs to hit one, 233 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: maybe two, and it's worth the move. But it just 234 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: felt like it was gambling. Were pretty high stakes, you know, 235 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: considering everything that we've seen, especially the fourth quarter where 236 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: the Celtics have dominated the Warriors. We know the Warriors 237 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: dominate the third quarter. Wasn't you know, really the case 238 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: there tonight. But Steve Kerk took a risk paid off. 239 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: But you know, look he mixed things up at the 240 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: start of the game as well by starting Otto porter 241 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: and keeping Kevon Looney on the bench there. It didn't 242 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: go with it for all that long, and I was 243 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: just like, look, he took one shot and he basically 244 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: got pulled after that, and it was like, you know, 245 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: I understand he wasn't giving them all that much, but 246 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 2: if you're going to make a move like that, I 247 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: just feel try to get him at least two or 248 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: three shots if you can get some sort of rhythm 249 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: or some sort of flow. Because the Warriors, despite this victory, 250 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: still I think a searching for someone who can just 251 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, give them some minutes where Steph can sit 252 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 2: where it doesn't feel like it's panic time for Golden 253 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: State again. Jordan Pool comes out and we know he's 254 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: you know, he's quite active, he's trying to get things going, 255 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 2: but he certainly doesn't, you know, scare the Boston Celtics 256 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 2: like Steph Curry does when he's out on the court. 257 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Trey, you're yearning for Someonado Porter minutes. You thought that 258 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: would be a good move. Was What was your take 259 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: on those minutes and the move to go small by 260 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: Steve Kirk. We got a frozen Trey Kirby will will 261 00:12:53,760 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: he Oh, there he is. We got a frozen Tray 262 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Herby in the middle of our screen right now, and 263 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: he peeked over Lee Ellis's shoulder, so we had double 264 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: tray Herby's one not in motion whatsoever. He's frozen. 265 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: I got we gotta take We're gotta take him out 266 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: of the stream here to see if he can pump 267 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: back in. So because you'll make no problem. 268 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: But as you're saying, Lee, yeah, they got the Warriors 269 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: got this win, and I still think, as you said, 270 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: they're still looking for their perfect lineup. It's it is 271 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: crazy to me that they got this win with Draymond 272 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: Green and Otto Porter, two of their starters scoring two 273 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: points each out. That just doesn't really happen in an 274 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: NBA game, And in a finals game, Draymond Green had 275 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: the Ben Simmons on offense. He had a bit of 276 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: the yips. He didn't want to shoot. Uh there was 277 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: He missed his first three, then he tried to draw 278 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: a foul on Robert Williams on his second shot, and 279 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: then he got blocked by Horforde. Then he got blocked 280 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: by hat him and then he just didn't want to 281 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: shoot the rest of the way. Whenever he saw Robert 282 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Williams at the rim, tis it out and he did 283 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: make an impact on defense. But somehow there he go 284 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: Trey Is back. Somehow they pull this out with that 285 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: happening because Cavan Ludi was big after bench he did 286 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: impact again. 287 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the thing is with Draymond It was 288 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: pretty funny. He went over to from downtown tonight that 289 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: second three. The crowd he had definitely bullied him into 290 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: taking that because he was wide open, passed, the ball 291 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: came back to him and he took the shot and 292 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: he missed it by a mile, and the fans really 293 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: felt that that was their intimidation and their pressure that 294 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: got to him. So that was pretty pretty hilarious to see. 295 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, look that lineup when you have Looney and 296 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: Draymond out there, Wiggins, Clay and Steph. If you've got 297 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: two guys who just cannot shoot and Draymond is refusing 298 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: to shoot, it just makes it, I think, tougher they 299 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: need to be to spread the flour. So again I 300 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: sort of understand why you try to have someone like 301 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: Otto port it out there for your offensive, but then 302 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 2: that does leave you exposed on the defensive end. But 303 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: also Robert Williams again, his status is going to be 304 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: so key for the Celtics for the remainder of this 305 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: series because when he is out there, he is so quick, 306 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: he's so athletic, he closes out fantastically well, and he 307 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: does seem to just be able to outjump and out 308 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: compete Draymond Green for some of those rebounds, and Draymond's 309 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: getting rarely really frustrated because he's sort of throwing his 310 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: arms around, he's throwing his body around trying to get 311 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: the possession. But Robert Williams is there and even a 312 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: couple of times when guys drive into the paint they're 313 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: changing their mind because they see his presence there and 314 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: they know he can get to almost any shot. So 315 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: he was huge for Boston, and his knee injury could 316 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: be somewhat of a deciding factor for the remainder of 317 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: this series. 318 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was big. I wonder how much the minutes 319 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: got up to him. As Trey mentioned the injury as well, 320 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Trey's Mike was injured there for a while. But you're back, baby, Yeah, 321 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm back for now. 322 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: I just like to keep gently reappearing in the stream 323 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 3: as you're talking about another center. The last time I 324 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: was in for like three seconds to hear some takes 325 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: on Kevon Looney. This time I come back to Robert Williams, 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna hop out one more time. We'll hear 327 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: about El Horford. You know, pretty quiet game, but he 328 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: did have a nice fourth quarter three pointer. 329 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, he had their only bucket the last 330 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: five seventeen there. But Kevon Looney, like, I don't know, 331 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't planned. I'm sure things just worked out so 332 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: well for Steve Kurt to put Looney on the bench, 333 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: and he comes in and was a beast in his 334 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight minutes four offensive boards to go along with 335 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: his six points eleven boards overall plus twenty one. But 336 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: you can talk about al Horford if you want. Tree. 337 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: No, you're exactly right that Looney is the guy who 338 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 3: needs I mean, he needs to be in quite a 339 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: bit for the Warriors. I feel at this point he's 340 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 3: indispensable to their best lineups, and Wiggins is indispensable to 341 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: their best lineups. Sometimes Draymond is going to be the 342 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: guy who's having an impact. Certainly when you win, to 343 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 3: go defensively that's the case. Maybe Otto Porter will get 344 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: some stretch minutes. And we even saw, like you guys 345 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: were saying, we saw some be elitza minutes, which I 346 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 3: thought was maybe maybe a smart move by Steve Kerr 347 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 3: because it took the Celtics out of their offense. Because 348 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 3: once Tatum saw the elites out there, he's like, I'm 349 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: gonna go at him every single time. And be Alitz 350 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 3: is not necessarily a good defender, but it took the 351 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 3: Celtics out of the actions that they had been running 352 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: the entire night, and. 353 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: He whoa, and he's gone, well, he's going to plane 354 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: to catch early in the morning. Maybe that's where he's 355 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: going to the airport. But I will, will, I will. 356 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: I'd point out one more thing, you know, particularly in 357 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: game three, the Celtics really went at Steph Curry and 358 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 2: he picked up another early foul about a minute ten 359 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: seconds into the game. But they didn't seem to be 360 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: quite as aggressive as they were, and I think retiring. 361 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: For the Nate. 362 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: Okay, don't forget to vote on the finals MVP. I'll 363 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: make sure to get the car ready for it. 364 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks man? What a what a wild We're ten 365 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: feet away from each other. I don't know how my 366 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: WiFi is working in his isn't, but that's the case anyway. 367 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, what a reversal. What you turn the tables? 368 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Lee Alis's players working better than other people I know? 369 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah they did they not go at Steph? 370 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: Was that the problem? 371 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: It felt like they were just a lot less aggressive 372 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: attacking the paint tonight than they were in game three. 373 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 2: A couple of times I felt Jaylen Brown could have 374 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: driven in a little bit more. Jason Taitan the same, 375 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: and they either settled or they just sort of pulled 376 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: the brakes a little bit and went for a mid 377 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: ranger or a three point or something. 378 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 3: Like that. 379 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: So it just wasn't really the same aggressive mindset that 380 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: they had. And again when Steph picks up that first fount. 381 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: Now again, I think the referees did a good job tonight. 382 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: I thought there was a lot of contact. It felt 383 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: very physical, certainly from where I was watching it from, 384 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: but they didn't overcall the game. I think they allowed 385 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: the players to sort of, you know, bang a little 386 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 2: and get a bit physical with each other, but it 387 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 2: never really crossed the line. I know Draymond as always 388 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 2: got into it a little bit there with Jason Tatum 389 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: at one point, But overall, you know, I think the 390 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: Celtics are probably going to look at game three and say, hey, 391 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: that was one because we just attacked and attacked and attacked. 392 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: In Game four, I think they got They just sort 393 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: of got into a position where they thought they were 394 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: comfortable and they didn't be weren't as aggressive going inside. 395 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Steph, as you said a minute ten, got his 396 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: first foul, was able to stay on the floor the 397 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: entire game played forty one minutes, only ended with three fouls, 398 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: while yeah, game three was a different story where he 399 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: had four fouls and was able to stay on the floor, 400 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: but as he said that the two fouls really meet 401 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: him play a little bit differently early, but in this 402 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: one he hung in and was able to to kick. 403 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: But all the way through this game, there was one 404 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: play at the end Lee where Jalen Brown slipped guarding 405 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: Steph way away from the basket in you know the 406 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: in the Warriors end and Steph kind of had a 407 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: clean runway to the hoop and al Horford jumped up 408 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: pretty straight and was called for the foul, and because 409 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: there was forty eight seconds left, ima Udoka used his 410 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: challenge there, but it wasn't overturned and Steph went to 411 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: the line and sealed it. It went from a five point 412 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: to a seven point lead. There any take on if 413 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: that was the right. 414 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: Call, Well, look, one of those plays as always where 415 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 2: I didn't think it was an egregious foul, but there 416 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 2: was enough contact and there was enough movement there from 417 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: al Horford then to overturn a call. It has to 418 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: be evidence that was like a complete miss. Now whenever 419 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: this contact like that and Steph went down, and I 420 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: think the Celtics are calling for the sort of you know, 421 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 2: the push off there from Steph Curry, But we knew 422 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: I think certainly it probably was the same for people 423 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: watching on TV. Udoka was just like, well, I may 424 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: as well use my challenge on this one. I don't 425 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: really think he thought it was going to get overturned because, 426 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: as I say, Al from the replays that I saw 427 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 2: did jump and sort of move into Steph, and as 428 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: soon as his contact like that, the rest are just 429 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: not going to overturn that call. So not a real surprise, 430 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 2: it's more just like a play like that, it's you know, 431 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: Al was trying to protect that Steph did the right 432 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: thing by making sure there was contact. It goes to 433 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 2: the line and he closes out the game. 434 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it did feel more when I watched it live 435 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: like it was there was more contact than it looked 436 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: like more of a foul than watching the replays. Like, 437 00:21:55,040 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: Al was pretty straight up. He wasn't entirely vertical. You 438 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: have to be going literally jumping straight up. You can't 439 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: jump from one point to another point and then be 440 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, erected by another guy like you can't. It 441 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: can't look like you're going vertical because you're getting hit. 442 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: So he wasn't entirely straight. But there's people in the 443 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: stream team getting pretty peeved that it should have been 444 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: a no call. We're seeing it all over the place. 445 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: I understand to some degree, but as you said, I 446 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: mean after it's called, and because Steph was going Steph 447 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 1: was going so quickly, and that's why I thought. I 448 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: guess he was going full speed, and I guess that's 449 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: why live it felt like a bit more of contact. 450 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I guess I just don't feel 451 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: bad for the Celtics not scoring those the last five 452 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: seventeen They had that one to three from Horford and 453 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I mean, that really doesn't change anything, 454 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: but I guess it was hard for the officials to 455 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: overturn that. As he said, so it goes from five 456 00:22:58,280 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: to seven there. 457 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again like the ref's going to look back 458 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: at that and say, sure, maybe the contact was marginal, 459 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: but that's a foul. We're just going to call that 460 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: a foul because there's no need for them to have 461 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: to change. It wasn't. It wasn't just a clear error 462 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: by the referees. It was one of those ones where 463 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: it's like that one gets called and I mean, we'll 464 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: all know. With the verticality rule, it is very, very tight. 465 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: It is very, very difficult to get consistent because almost 466 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 2: no guys when they jump up keep their entire hands 467 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: and arms straight the whole time. Often when there's contact, 468 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 2: one of those arms comes down and makes contact with 469 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: another part of the body. So I think that's it. 470 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: But again that at that point of the game it 471 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: was over anyway, so it wasn't. Really it would have 472 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: still taken in a miracle I think for the Celtics 473 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: to win it from there, even if that call does 474 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: get overturned. 475 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta agree. They just went so stagnant at 476 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: the end. I don't know how they went that stagnant 477 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: after getting solid performances a lot of the way in 478 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: terms of gay scoring, the fact that they had eighteen 479 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: plus from Tatum, Brown and Smart and Derek White chipping in, 480 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: even though it wasn't a very efficient night. It's hard 481 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: to believe how they how they didn't close it out. 482 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it I don't know if it. 483 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 3: Was just not. 484 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: Being able to step up into the moment or just 485 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: not being able to execute down the stretch. I have 486 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: to go back and wipe. 487 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's what it was. I 488 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: think the Celtics felt like, man, we're going to be 489 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: three one up here. All we've got to do is 490 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: make a few more baskets and we're home. And then 491 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden and again you notice it, I 492 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: think more so just being here where it's like, all 493 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: of a sudden, they're overpassing. You know, the way that 494 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 2: ball moves around has been incredible for Boston's offense ever 495 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 2: since they made that run, going back to the start 496 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: of January. But in this game late it was like, oh, 497 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: we don't want to No one wants to shoot it. 498 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: They all sort of want to pass and hope someone 499 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 2: else can shoot it. Our whole fired away. You know, 500 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: he hit one, but he was probably taking a few 501 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: too many there, so I think they just got a 502 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 2: little bit nervous, a little bit tight, and you know, 503 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 2: it ended up costing in the game. But overall, I mean, 504 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 2: we've seen this series neither team has really been not 505 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: a sort of grab hold of the other team for 506 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: too long. I mean too too. I think is a 507 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 2: very very fair reading of where this series is, and 508 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: it is wide open. You can make a very very 509 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: strong case for the team to win it from here. 510 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: But of course Game five will give us that that answer. 511 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I know you've got all the stats there, Tassy. 512 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: Whoever wins game five eighty two percent or something. 513 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 1: Like that, but I have the stats. Yeah. Well, hey, listen. 514 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: The Celtics, though, lost Game five against the Milwaukee Bucks 515 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: in Boston. Remember too, that was a huge game here. 516 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: They lost, but then they did come back to win 517 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: the series. So you know, whoever wins obviously going to 518 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 2: feel pretty good. But it certainly doesn't mean you're home either. 519 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: Speaking of home, it looked like you guys, we're feeling 520 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: at home getting that pregame lobster that we're showing here 521 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: on YouTube. That was my segue. I don't know we 522 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: met that in the media room. The Boston Celtics tweeted 523 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: out that there was lobster lobster rolls. Well you and 524 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: tree Hat. 525 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: No, no, I didn't see lobster rolls. It was literally 526 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: straight lobster. They had their lobster and crabcakes and all 527 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 2: the seafood mix of stuff there, so it was great. 528 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: I actually just had I think it was some chowder. 529 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 2: I think I had because honestly, eating lobster while you're 530 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 2: at a game, it's a little messy. It's a little 531 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: sloppy there, so you know, I didn't want to get 532 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: the big napkin and tuck it in there and start 533 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: getting the old you know, nutcracker and trying to crack 534 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: the lobster, so I passed on it. Just had a 535 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: little bit of soup and I think Trey had some crabcakes. 536 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: He looked like he was getting into something pretty good there. 537 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, but man, I mean that's that's the great 538 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: thing about traveling. 539 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: Rabcakes were very good. 540 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: There you go confirm. 541 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: So let's just remulod. 542 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Remulard sort this man. I tell her in 543 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: the last couple of days, big coffee man. Now all 544 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: of a sudden, now look at the look at the dinners. 545 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: He's having it NBA Media Finals. So it's been great. 546 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's uh, that's risky. I didn't think. I 547 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: didn't think that you'd just be having lobster. It's pretty 548 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: risky for the media going from lobster to their computers. 549 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: I agree, y, Yeah, imagine having lobster and then going 550 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: hold going to hold the top seventy five ball as 551 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: you guys got to you and Tree, this is a 552 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: great photo. Yeah, you got to hold the top that 553 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: let's see ball that everybody wants to hold. 554 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: The one, tassye, the one because a lady from NBA 555 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: NBA social media. She was walking around and she had 556 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: the ball out and I sort of stopped her and said, oh, 557 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: can I have? But I didn't realize she was filming 558 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: something as she was doing. I don't know if it 559 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: was a real or a story or what she was 560 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: doing there. And she walked off and I sort of 561 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: said to Trayler, oh damn. But then I also think, oh, 562 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: maybe I just like interrupted something she was doing. Anyway, 563 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: a few minutes later, she came back and she was 564 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: off the phone, and I just said to her, do 565 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: you mind if I and she's like, yeah, of course, 566 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: come along, Come along. So she let us take a 567 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: pick holding the ball there together and it was great. 568 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: You know. 569 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 2: I wanted to get some dribbles in but decided not 570 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: to watch this one. 571 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: So is it heavy? 572 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: No, No, it's not heavy. I mean, like, I don't 573 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: know if it's a real ball underneath it or not. 574 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: I don't think it is. But no, it's not heavy. 575 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: But I think it would have just shattered if I 576 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: had started to try to try to bounce it between 577 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: my legs up here on the rafters. I mean, that 578 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: would have been a disaster for the ball, a disaster 579 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: for the NBA social media channel as well. The ball 580 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: just gets smashed. 581 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: Well, you got to hold. That's pretty freaking cool. Yeah, 582 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: So in the end we can start to wrap up here. Yeah, 583 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: I mean, just to give you some stats before we 584 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: hand out the Brown low Metal, because we're given points 585 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: to each players. How we're going to award our finals MVP. 586 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: We'll do it accumulatively, you know, we hand out the 587 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: three to two one and then we'll add it up 588 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: at the end here. But Steph a ridiculous night, carrying 589 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: everybody on his back, got his team to the fourth, 590 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: and then the Celtics focusing on him a little too 591 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: much and didn't rebound when Wiggins got in there, and 592 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: Clay came through. Steph with forty three on fourteen of 593 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: twenty six shooting, Clay finished with eighteen, Wiggins finished with seventeen, 594 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: Pool with fourteen off the bench, and on the other side, 595 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: Tatum the game high or team high should say twenty 596 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: three eight of twenty three shooting, though in Jalen Brown 597 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: twenty one on nine of nineteen shooting and Marcus Smart 598 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: ended with eighteen, Derek White sixteen off the bench. So 599 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: give us your your numbers here who you handed out to? Lee? 600 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: Oh and now Lee Ellis is frozen? What a delight? 601 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: What a delight? Spoke too soon about his great WiFi. 602 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: Well I can start to give mine, and maybe Lee 603 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: will come back if he unfreezes. Steph Curry obviously gets 604 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: all three, gets all three. He should get first, second, 605 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: and third for what he did in this game. I 606 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: wonder now that if the series goes to six or seven, 607 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: even if the Warriors do lose, if the Celtics come back, 608 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if Steph gets some legitimate MVP votes even 609 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: if the Warriors are the loser. But either way, number 610 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: one tonight three votes. I think that's how this brown 611 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: low metal vote works. Now, I suppose, oh man, I 612 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: mean two and three is hard, So I'll go Wiggins. 613 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: I kind of just want to give all three to Steph. 614 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: But go Wiggins for his rebounding two big boards on 615 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: the offensive end a minute apart there to just keep 616 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,719 Speaker 1: the Warriors afloat when it felt like the Celtics were 617 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna take over, when it felt like Marcus Smart went 618 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: to the line there for that and one after the 619 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. It felt like it was over. But Wiggins 620 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: two big offensive rebounds a minute apart in the fourth quarter, 621 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: part of his sixteen rebounds. Andrew Wiggins toughness. Baby, who 622 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: said that Andrew Wiggins wasn't tough. It's unbelievable. They won 623 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: this game. It's anyways, Wiggins had seventeen and sixteen and 624 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: the third one. I guess it goes to Clay for 625 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: that clutch three, because yeah, the Celtics were right there, 626 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: but do you give it to Tatum twenty three on 627 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: eight of twenty three shooting or Jalen Brown? So I'm 628 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: going all three Warriors. I don't know how this happened, 629 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: but they ended up finish the job there, just like 630 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to finish the job right here. The guys 631 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: wanted to get in their car and get back to 632 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: their hotel as their work is done. They're catching a 633 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: flight back early in the morning. We'll be back on Monday. 634 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: So make sure to rate the show, review the show, 635 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: share the show, fall the show, whatever happens on all 636 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: those platforms. Do what you gotta do. We'll be back 637 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: Monday for a full show and Spiro's Karadac. He's mentioning, No, Draymond, 638 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: are you kidding? Are you kidding? Draymond? You want to 639 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: include him in the top three. No, Draymond didn't want 640 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: to shoot this evening. Defensively, he did get the job 641 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: done nine board dat assists, but it's hard to it's 642 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: hard to include him in this Listen. I'm gonna listen 643 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: to the podcast. I will, I shall, but no, I 644 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: think he'll applaud Steve Kirk for taking him out for 645 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: those four four minutes from sem thirty to three thirty. 646 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: Then he was going offense defense there at the end. 647 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: I think what the NBA should do if teams want 648 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: to employ the Hockey rule where they changed live during 649 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: a shift and go offense defense. I want to see 650 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: that happen. It wouldn't work in the NBA. It would 651 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: be it would be very messy. But Draymond Green was 652 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: going was going offense defense. Steve Kerr was going offense 653 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: defense with Draymond Green. Kudos. They got the job done, 654 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: very very very well done by Steve Kerr and the Warriors. Honestly, 655 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,239 Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't believe how Steph carried that 656 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: team to the end and they got the job done. Anyways, 657 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: we'll be back Monday in studio to set up game five, 658 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: and of course I want to thank everybody for tuning in, 659 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: but we can't go anywhere until we hear our friend 660 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: you heard it here first. Have a great time turn up. 661 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome. 662 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: I love you guys so much. You guys have been great. 663 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in, Thanks for joining us. And 664 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: remember the referees were great in this game. They were great. 665 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: That's my quote. We see you Monday, people,