1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 3: Morning everybody. 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 4: It's DJ En v Jess, Larry is Charlamagne the guy. 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 6 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 4: in the building. Yes, indeed we have Monica McNutt. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: Welcome, Hi guys. 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 5: Monica is a what are you a sports reporter analyst? 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 6: What we're working cycle instructor on the side and you know, 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 6: just trying to take care of my mentals, my chicken 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 6: shout out to Marshall. 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 5: Now I saw you the other You tweet the other 13 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 5: day that you misplaced your beach by Dread headphones on 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 5: the plane, and you said that it messed up your 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 5: movie watching the experience very much. Did you have to 16 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 5: use the airplane headphones? 17 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 6: So I was worse listen not airplane headphones, so full 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 6: full context. It was before the next loss of the Pacers, 19 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 6: so it was team travel, Charter Life smooth. 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: We love it. I use my. 21 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 6: AirPods, but the plane is still loud. So it was 22 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 6: very much like I can kind of hear I want 23 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 6: to watch this versus you know this around experience watching Uh, 24 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 6: mister missus Smith on Amazon Prime. 25 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: Is it good? 26 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting into it. It took me about three episodes. 27 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 6: It was a little predictable, but I want to support 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 6: I think, so I'm gonna hang on. 29 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: Did you ever find your headphones? 30 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 6: I did not, and the locators lost. I'm pretty sure 31 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 6: I lost them on the trip to Chicago. I'm one 32 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 6: of them people that I don't lose a lot, but 33 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 6: when I can't find something. 34 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: I lost it. 35 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: You just left it somewhere. 36 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and somebody got them. I hope they're blessed. 37 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 4: But when you walked in, you and Charlemagne were having 38 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 4: a conversation about makeup. Yes, like discussed because he was 39 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: because he was like, did you get this treatment? 40 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: And he was like, I haven't got that. Said, oh 41 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: my god, that. 42 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: Treatment are amazing treatment. 43 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,279 Speaker 3: What you're talking about her? Because I was amazed when. 44 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: She removed the makeup. The removal is incredible. 45 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to tap in now. 46 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 6: The problem, though, is I'll be trying to save her 47 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 6: the face by Brenda and then she's not in my house. 48 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: And I knew wear in your eyebrows, Charlage, I knew that. 49 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: What do you mean? Absolutely? Mind? 50 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk Can we talk some sports? For some sports, 51 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: let's let's talk. 52 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: Lets talk about Monica for us. 53 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: Can we get to know Monica before we get into 54 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 5: the sports. 55 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: You know, she played in bake in college, but. 56 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: Georgetown Hall, I did? 57 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I did? 58 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: Why did you stop playing? 59 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: You know what? Okay? 60 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 6: So I was very realistic, right, and I remember saying 61 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 6: to my dad, like, I don't want to be twenty 62 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 6: eight coming back from overseas and being at entry level positions. 63 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: I didn't. 64 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 6: This is the I don't live with a bunch of regress, y'all. 65 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 6: But it is the one thing that I do regret 66 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 6: not even trying to see if I could stick on 67 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 6: the roster in the W. 68 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: I had so much respect for the craft. 69 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 6: I didn't think I was good enough, and frankly, I 70 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 6: was ready to put my energy elsewhere. Basketball was like 71 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 6: third grade every Saturday, every summer. You know what I'm saying, 72 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 6: that commitment, and so I was kind of like, all right, 73 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 6: I'm ready to do something else. So I did not 74 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 6: attempt to go pro. I immediately began my full rate 75 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 6: into media. 76 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: Do you think you could have win pro? Do you think 77 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 4: you could have win pro? S? And everybody that the 78 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: way they played and knowing the way that. 79 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 6: You play, I graduated twenty eleven. I think I could 80 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 6: have made a roster. I don't know if I would 81 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 6: have stuck for the entire season. If I'm honest, the 82 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 6: w was just that tough. 83 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: It's just that tough. 84 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: Why do you feel like you know? 85 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 5: Like you said, you have regrets, but it's like you 86 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: physically know or spiritually know when it's time to move 87 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 5: on to the next thing. 88 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Correct, So if you knew that. 89 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: Like, why do you have regrets? 90 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 6: I think I trying would have honestly given me some 91 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 6: intel in terms of the process, for one, which would 92 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 6: have benefited me now. And then I think it would 93 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 6: have been like, well, you tried it, now let's move on, 94 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Even if the result was 95 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 6: still you're gonna move on, because if the plan was 96 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 6: it's time to move on, it was gonna be revealed 97 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 6: one way or another. So that's the only and I 98 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 6: use regret lightly. There are a few things that I 99 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 6: look back and I'm like, I should have done that. Thankfully, 100 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 6: I don't live with a toitle those. 101 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: So so do you feel tall for no reason? 102 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: No? I love being tall. I feel tall on purpose? 103 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 6: Okay, baby, Like it took me a long time to 104 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 6: get comes up on these sides, eleven sides, twelve feet okay, 105 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 6: come here. 106 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 2: Because we hugged, but you like lean down. 107 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 5: That disrespectful to short man, I don't know if you 108 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 5: know that, But to short king, I feel like that's disrespectful. 109 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Yes, what I'm I supposed to do? 110 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 5: Like when tall women kneel down in the picture like that, 111 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: Like why are you doing that? 112 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 6: I'm not good Like I wouldn't be tall if you 113 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 6: weren't short, though, so we work together, like we work together. 114 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm surprised you didn't try to post you up. 115 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: Usually any any woman here as toll, he tries to 116 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: post you up like he plays basket. 117 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: Don't do that. Don't do that. We passed that. Don't 118 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: do that. 119 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: Don't do that because he does that all the time. 120 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: The woman I know, I'm not gonna do it. I 121 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: don't know mineel like that. 122 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: He's in the street, right. We try to battle them out. 123 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: We're all accustomed to it. Move no, man, get I'm 124 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: away now. 125 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: How did you get to be in an analystic reporter? 126 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 6: So when I graduated in twenty eleven, we lost to 127 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 6: Yukon ironically in Philly and at the Press conference final 128 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 6: press conference. 129 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, like my career is over. I'm trying 130 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: to get in the media. What's up. 131 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 6: And a couple of folks in the audience actually gave 132 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 6: me cards and connected, and I think I'm very thankful 133 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 6: to my parents. Advocating for myself has been something that 134 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 6: I have never struggled with her to see my parents, 135 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 6: and so all along the way, I'm meeting these people 136 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 6: and letting them know what I wanted to do. I 137 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 6: actually ended up being at a Washington Post event and 138 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 6: sitting in front of the director of the Phillamol College 139 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 6: of Journalism or Sports Program for Sports Journalism at University 140 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 6: of Maryland, again advocating for myself. He's like, come truck 141 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 6: out our journalism program. At the time, I didn't know 142 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 6: who he was. Turned out to be George Solomon. That 143 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 6: gets the wheel rolling in me in terms of opportunities 144 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: to learn the craft of journalism, study it, be able 145 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 6: to go and perform in various mediums, and then take 146 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 6: my basketball passion of basketball knowledge and merge the two. 147 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 6: So twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, I graduated from grad school 148 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 6: and then it's just kind of been pushing ever since. 149 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: Was there any body that inspired you to want to 150 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 5: get into broadcast journalism? 151 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 6: Robin Roberts, like I was the nineteen ninety six ninety 152 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 6: seven WNBA foundational years, Robin Roberts was still working on 153 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 6: the call at that point, and I just remember seeing 154 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 6: her and then following her to ESPN and Sports Center 155 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 6: and obviously on the GMA, Like it was like yo, 156 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 6: like that's me, Like I could do that. And so 157 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 6: I think Robert Roberts is probably my first muse in 158 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 6: the space. And then I would say somebody like Doris 159 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 6: Burke probably. 160 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 5: Does this stigma still exist that women don't know sports 161 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 5: one hundred percent? 162 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 6: It's changing, but it's definitely still out there. And I'll 163 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 6: be honest, y'all. For me, it was so funny this 164 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 6: week Monday. First take Steve and A Shannon, all those 165 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 6: guys and Steven that has to take this moment to 166 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 6: address this whole thing with Jaylen Brown, right, and I 167 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 6: am listening, and I'm like, Dak, this man have been 168 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 6: in the industry twenty five plus years, well respected, and 169 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 6: he's still having to clarify. And so for me, you know, 170 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 6: less than ten years in at least in doing that 171 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 6: showing on that platform it was this that's just the 172 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 6: nature of the beast's moment, because I'm like, I didn't 173 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 6: say that when people are like tweeting stuff at me, 174 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 6: like I didn't say that, or that's completely out of context. 175 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 6: And so I think you learn and you build the 176 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 6: scar tissue, the tough skin to deal with it, because 177 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 6: it's just the nature of the beasts. 178 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: I do understand differently, we forget. 179 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 6: Fanish short for fanatic, and so sometimes when I'm engaging, 180 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, is this misogynistic bs or is 181 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 6: this just a crazy fan right? And you gotta be able, 182 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 6: I don't want to say hold space, but you gotta 183 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 6: be able to navigate both because there is still a 184 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 6: sentiment out there that women just don't know what they're 185 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 6: talking about. And for me, I'm like, look, we don't 186 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 6: have to agree. That's the nature of the beast, that's 187 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 6: the nature of human experience. But don't be nasty for 188 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 6: no reason. That's my only thing. 189 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when it comes to like sports pundents, 190 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 5: you can immediately tell if you like somebody just by 191 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 5: listening to him, cause you know what they you know, 192 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 5: they know what they're talking about. I remember the first 193 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: time I saw you was on I think the Yes 194 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: Network with cas. It was with after the Knicks game, 195 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 5: and I was like, I remember hitting cats, Like who 196 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 5: is that? Like, you know she knows what she's talking about, 197 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 5: not she because she's a woman, just that person knows 198 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: what they're talking about. Yeah, yeah, And I appreciate that 199 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 5: that that compliment and compliments from basketball people mean no 200 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 5: world to me. 201 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: Like if this. 202 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 6: Assistant coach or this coach or this former athlete is like, yo, 203 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 6: we like what you do, like thank you and it 204 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 6: and like what you do doesn't mean we always have 205 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 6: to agree. I'm gonnacros from NASA Rosie two years ago 206 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 6: at the Women's Final four and she's like, mine, you 207 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 6: look like you having fun. Though She's like I don't 208 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 6: always agree, which is fine, but you look like you 209 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 6: having fun and you've done the work, and that's that is. 210 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: The bottom line. 211 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: Now, I got to ask you, w NBA, let's do it. 212 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: There's been a lot of conversation recently about the w NBA. 213 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: Things have changed in the last year, but I think 214 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 4: people wanted more and I see them starting to talk 215 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: more and more and more and more trash, right, Caitlin 216 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: Clark for example. Right, you know she's doing well, scoring 217 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 4: twenty two points. It's difficult, right, d Like, this is 218 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: top level basketball, but people wanted more. They want to 219 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: herd like what she did in college, and they're saying 220 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: that this could actually hurt the wn bab what's. 221 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: Your thoughts on that. 222 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 6: So two things can be true, and this is why 223 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 6: the run up to Kaylan getting drafted and becoming a 224 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 6: pro was so fascinating to watch for those of us 225 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 6: that have been in the space. 226 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: Right, she's dynamic, she has changed the game. 227 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 6: She's worthy of all the contracts, the dollars, the Rise 228 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 6: and Tide raisers, all ships, whatever. Although there is trajectory 229 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 6: of the WNB in the last four years, some of 230 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 6: these things were going to happen anyway. 231 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: But the w is also tough. It's one hundred and 232 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: forty four of the. 233 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 6: Best women in the world period, not in the United States, 234 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 6: in the world. And so she is fine and talented 235 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 6: and will be okay. And there's also going to be 236 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 6: a curve, and I think that's what we're seeing in 237 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 6: real time. You don't get drafted number one because the 238 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 6: team just won a championship. The team is straggling, right, 239 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 6: and the Fever have struggled since they won a championship 240 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 6: with Tamika Catches. I think that was twenty sixteen, So 241 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 6: they're trying to get back to the promised lands, so 242 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 6: to speak. I think the hope is, Okay, we're turning 243 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 6: in to watch Caitlin Oh, but let me. I'm learning 244 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 6: about the Connecticut Sign, I'm learning about the La Sparks, 245 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 6: I'm learning about the Las Vegas Aces, these other teams 246 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 6: that I now want to follow. 247 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: That's the hope. Now the reality. 248 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 6: I literally had this conversation a week ago one of 249 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 6: my bosses is is that fan base for her going to. 250 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Hang on while the Fever continue to struggle? Now? 251 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 6: I can't answer that. I can already see growth in 252 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 6: her first one two weeks the month of the season. 253 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 6: But I hope that the eyeballs that she's bringing are 254 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 6: about women's sports at large and not just her, and 255 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 6: that encourages and boost the WNBA at large. 256 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 5: I've never rooted for a white woman so much of 257 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 5: my life. Okay, because she has to be successful. I 258 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 5: feel like, you know, the more success she has, the 259 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 5: more success women's basketball is going to have. Like people 260 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 5: should want her to succeed, but it's kind of weird 261 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 5: to see people rooting against her. 262 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 6: So first of all, let's let let charlamne and be 263 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 6: less unpacked that who who is who is Chuck talking 264 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 6: to the other day? Like who is Chuck talking to? 265 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 6: Stop hating? 266 00:09:59,600 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 267 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, if you're talking to the internet, make 268 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: that clear. 269 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 6: Because I have talked to w players, I've talked to 270 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 6: her teammates in Indiana, like, folks are excited and thrilled. 271 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 6: But the idea that the w NBA has to play 272 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 6: kumbaya and not compete. 273 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: Like whoever said, I'm blank? 274 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 6: Was it je t They said, y'all should be competing 275 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 6: because you want to make her look good. 276 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if I said one of the podcasts, 277 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 3: I say, say that, write. 278 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 6: This clip like cut it out, cut it out, like 279 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 6: at the base, at the foundation of this this competition, 280 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 6: and that is beautiful and worthy of celebration. 281 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: If you're listening, you don't know what she's talking about. 282 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 4: He was saying that the WNBA should fall back off 283 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 4: and for let her score, let her score thirty forty 284 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: the first two years and get more people involved, and 285 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 4: then play hard on her but I'm like you, it's competition. 286 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: Like now, I want to show that I can defend her. 287 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: I want to show that when she comes into my 288 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: city that she's scoring two points. 289 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: That's so like, that's no insult to her. She's a competitor. 290 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 6: She go go get she go go do what she 291 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 6: gotta do. Do not give this any real rational space 292 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 6: in your head. 293 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: Don't even do it. I'm like, Jeff might not be 294 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: a little all. You might not be wrong. 295 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 4: Because I'm saying, for two years, get more, especially to 296 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 4: go see her. 297 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 5: It's not like she's not getting shots to be fun. 298 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: She's to me, if i'm her, that's an insult. That's 299 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: an insult. 300 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: And it's only been with five games. 301 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: I got a double check something like that. 302 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 5: She scored twenty a few times. But I'm looking at 303 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 5: everything else she's doing. She's getting she's getting reading, cut 304 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 5: down on the turnover, but she looks like she's doing, 305 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 5: she gonna, she's doing. 306 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 6: Anything quite as his cap. I don't I shouldn't say 307 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 6: quiet as his cap. But it just hasn't been as 308 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 6: much of a national headline. But her comrade in that class, 309 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 6: Angel Reae, has been off to a rocket right like 310 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,599 Speaker 6: she's angel is stupid and I'm hooping, And I'll be 311 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 6: the first to say that. In college, I was like 312 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 6: a house is going to translate in terms of position, 313 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 6: but the work ethic, the energy get into the glass, 314 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 6: like the toughness, all of those things have translated. 315 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: And I'm really excited for her. This rookie class is. 316 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 6: Dope, and I think the timing of it is really 317 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 6: unique in terms of the growth of women's sports at large. 318 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 6: And then you have these personalities that you can lash 319 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 6: onto and really root for, and they are cool sharing 320 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 6: their lives, which is super dope. So it's a beautiful combination. 321 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 6: So right now you're Rookie of the Year. So far 322 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 6: as injuries, in terms of product, I mean, both those 323 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 6: teams are struggling. I haven't eve thought about show me 324 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 6: it's so early. My big thing going into the conversation 325 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 6: with Rookie of the Year though, is whose numbers are 326 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 6: going to impact their team's overall improvement. So right now 327 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 6: you would give a slight edge to Chicago. Both of 328 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 6: those teams are struggling. Well, not shouldn't struggling. They're still young, 329 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 6: they're still building, but you would probably give a slight 330 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 6: edge to Chicago right now, Cardoza not even Yeah, she 331 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 6: had a shoulder thing, she's getting she's getting back. 332 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: How hard is it being a woman at ESPN? 333 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 6: So I live in New York, I operate out of 334 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 6: the Seaport Studio. I have no issues. The times that 335 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 6: I've been in Bristol, I've had no issues. It is 336 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 6: that's a ESPN is a great place to work. Every 337 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 6: no place is perfect, right, and so I don't find 338 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 6: it to be hard. I think I'm probably hardest on myself. 339 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 6: And that's just the background of an athlete, right, Like, yeah, 340 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 6: it's crazy to me. The other day I had a 341 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 6: conversation with my guys over at Next School and they 342 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 6: asked me about my most morole moment from the season. 343 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 6: And this wasn't an ESPN moment, but it was with 344 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 6: Mike Green. Right, We're doing a game in Golden State, 345 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 6: second game. I had the opportunity to call for the Knicks. 346 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 6: I might have been a third and Mike Bring does 347 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 6: his signature bang on the call and it was like. 348 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: Surreal for me because I'm like whoa, Like whoa. 349 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: And so there's this moment of I'm sitting next to 350 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 6: this Hall of Famer that has done this for I'm 351 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 6: ten years or even the other day in the studio, 352 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 6: like I'm sitting across from you, Donna's Haslam, a three 353 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 6: time champion, like a dude that played eighteen plus years 354 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 6: in the NBA, and here I am someone who has 355 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 6: loved the game of basketball, done my best to study 356 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 6: and prepare and just bringing my perspective. So whether it's 357 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 6: ESPN or MSG, there's an innate confidence that you have 358 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 6: to have in terms of my voice and my perspective 359 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 6: adds to this conversation. Now, that does not mean I 360 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 6: don't operate with a ton of difference and respect, because 361 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 6: I mean I'm riding them off, all these people that 362 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 6: I have the privilege to work next to, and I 363 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 6: have a ton of respect for your experience. However, this 364 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 6: is also what I've observed. Can we have a conversation, 365 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 6: and so that goes back to basketball people being like yo, 366 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 6: that was that was solid or on the occasion where 367 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 6: it wasn't solid, you have the opportun unity to receive 368 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 6: constructive feedback, adjust and grow. 369 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: So I have not found it to be hard. 370 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 6: I'm very thankful I've had the opportunity to do a 371 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 6: bunch of different things, and I think moving forward, for me, 372 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 6: it's about finding the lane that best suits my skill set. 373 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: And I gotta ask, you said you did a bunch 374 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 4: of Knicks games, right, it feels like the NBA gets 375 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: a lot better and more talked about. 376 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: When the Knicks are in the playoffs. It feels like that. 377 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Okay, yes it does. 378 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: Are you crazy? 379 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: Listen? 380 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: I would. 381 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 6: So this was my first year as a Knicks radio analyst. 382 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 6: We had a blast, right. This was also probably their 383 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 6: best year in terms of if you think of January, 384 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 6: they was on a hot streak. I have learned how 385 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 6: national television works. There's a few y'all know, it's a 386 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 6: few markets that hit. And we're gonna keep recycling these topics. 387 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 6: When the Knicks are playing well, there's definitely more energy, 388 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 6: Like there's more energy about the teams that are coming 389 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 6: into the garden. How did the results end up going 390 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 6: down at the garden like the whole bit? 391 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: So, yes, I think that's a fact. 392 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 4: And I also got to ask, you know, people have 393 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 4: been complaining about the refs in it BA recently and 394 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 4: they're saying they make bad. 395 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: Calls and this, that and the other. What are your 396 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: thoughts on the rest of the NBA. 397 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 6: I think referring is a thankless job. Your best case scenarios. 398 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 6: We say nothing about you, right. 399 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: The one time the Pacers complaining seventy eight times is like, 400 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: that's crazy. 401 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: Like in one game. 402 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 6: Yes, I think between game two and three they sent 403 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 6: seventy eight clips to the league office. 404 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 405 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 6: Rick Carlo popped a thirty five thousand dollars flying for 406 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 6: his postgame press conference after Game two, and in Game 407 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 6: three in Indiana, the tenor of the game was a 408 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 6: little different. 409 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: Yes, that's why I think they won that game. 410 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: But ahead, we're gonna keep moving. 411 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 6: I think officiating definitely has room to improve, and it's 412 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 6: just a matter of consistency. Even last night, complete accident, 413 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 6: was it? Jaylen Bronston clock kicks t J McConnell on 414 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 6: the head, everybody listening, JJ Reddick, Mike Breen, George Burk Like, 415 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 6: by rule, this is gonna be a flaker one unintentional, 416 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 6: but you kicked the dude in the face and the 417 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 6: crew ruled that it was just a regular file like 418 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 6: it was like, oh, and so I think there is 419 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 6: consistency by the letter of the law that is missing 420 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 6: and that probably be my biggest gripe. 421 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: And who's the face of the league right now? You 422 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: look at some of the biggest stars in the league, 423 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 4: they didn't make the playoffs. Well out the playoffs, I 424 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 4: should say, you eat Lebron, You're talking Curry, you're talking 425 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant, these guys. 426 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: Out, So who is the face of the league. 427 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 6: I mean we've only been debating us for like three 428 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 6: weeks on television. 429 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 5: Ah. 430 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,479 Speaker 1: Look, I still think that those guys. 431 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 6: When you think NBA, you think of the Jannis, KD, 432 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 6: Steph and Lebron still first in my mind. But I 433 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 6: do think we are witnessing a changing of the guard Minnesota. Mike, 434 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 6: guess what, right look like, That's how it's gonna happen. 435 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 6: And so I think that probably puts a little bit 436 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 6: of a pause on the Anthony Edwards talk. But then 437 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 6: you got like Kyrie, who's going off alongside Luca, Right, 438 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 6: they love Kyrie. 439 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: Now Michael Jordan is the face of the NBA. 440 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 5: Okay, And you know how you know Michael Jordan facing 441 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 5: the NBA because even the greatest players that are still 442 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: playing right now still get compared to Michael Jordan's Anthony 443 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 5: Edwards is still getting compared, you know, to Michael Jordan 444 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 5: right now, Lebron James. They still he was in the playoff. 445 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 5: They would say, he's still chasing Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan 446 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 5: is the face of the NBA guys and gals. 447 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know if I agree with that, but 448 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 6: sure I understand your logic. I mean, I think the 449 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 6: face of the league is such a it's a loaded question, 450 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 6: right because so much of it is also like wanting 451 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 6: to and so in terms of the guy that's front 452 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 6: facing a vocal, it's definitely Steph and Lebron in terms 453 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 6: of like they're gonna capture all of these. 454 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: Deals regarding the league. 455 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 6: They're gonna wear mics, the you know what I'm saying, 456 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 6: They're gonna be strategic and everything that they're doing. I 457 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 6: don't know if there's anybody that seems to embrace it 458 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 6: quite the way they do until you turn around and 459 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 6: got and Edwards, but I will say they like, I 460 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 6: love it. 461 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: Though he's like he's on he comes from a side 462 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 4: of it almost like more like an Ivison approach. I 463 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 4: don't give a fuck about none of you, all them, 464 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say what I gotta say, and it is 465 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: what it is. 466 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: And then if you talk back to me, I'm gonna 467 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 3: try to dunk on you. 468 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: By the way, I. 469 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 5: Like Anthony Edwood's too, but it feels like once those 470 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 5: Jordan talks really started to heat up for that week, 471 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 5: his performances didn't match. 472 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 6: So this is year one though. I feel you on that, 473 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 6: but this is your one. I'm gonna say this baby, 474 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 6: this young man, this athlete, his. 475 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: Baby, his baby. 476 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 6: I mean, he's never been this far, and to me, 477 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 6: he looks absolutely cooked and fatigued in the series, So 478 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 6: I think he has time. Like this is the question 479 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 6: around him has been it's either new face of the league. 480 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 6: Don't think he's there yet. But like you said, the 481 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,479 Speaker 6: MJ comps, the personality, all of these things are reasons 482 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 6: for folks to tune in, and so I think he's 483 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 6: got He's twenty two, y'all, He's got plenty of time 484 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 6: and plenty of runway. But I think knocking out the 485 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 6: defendant tips and the way that they did that made 486 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 6: that very excited and talking trash all along the way. 487 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: Please, I got to ask about one more nick question 488 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 3: we got. What do they shut up? 489 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: What do the Knicks need to do for next year? 490 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: You know they've been talking about do they trade Randall, 491 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: do they keep Randall? Do they bring somebody else in? 492 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: You know, what should we do? 493 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 6: So hear me out listening, I think people forgot what 494 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,640 Speaker 6: this team could look like healthy, Right, Mitchell Robinson goes 495 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 6: down in October, Julius goes down at the end of January, 496 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 6: og misses a month ish down to stretch of the 497 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 6: regular season. You get to the postseason, Ogi's still dealing 498 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 6: with the injury stuff, and then obviously it ends with 499 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 6: the jaylen Han thing. Right, Julius was a twenty five 500 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 6: and nine guy. Excuse me, all star right, all NBA. 501 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 6: Mitchell Robinson was having the best season to date before 502 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 6: going down with that foot injury, and then when he 503 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 6: did get healthy, he was productive until he got her 504 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 6: to get in that Philly series. I actually would be 505 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 6: okay if this team stood its ground and ran it 506 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 6: back healthy. But to me, the culture has to be protected. 507 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 6: Y'all know y'all heard all the conversation about Tibbs. I was, 508 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 6: I like, want to kick anybody in the face that 509 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 6: want to talk to me about TIBs. In minutes like 510 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 6: stop it. 511 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: Say TIBs work, Peaked did work. 512 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 6: Like we're trying to win, y'all want to count minutes 513 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 6: y'all on w's like what were we doing? So if 514 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 6: they're going to add I think that front office has 515 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 6: earned tremendous respect with the trade that they made to 516 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 6: get Og and Precious the Truer and even the two 517 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 6: guys out of Detroit were beneficial down the stretch. They 518 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 6: deserve respect. To me, you gotta get a guy that 519 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 6: fits a Tip system. You gotta be able to play. 520 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: You want to play on both sides of the floor, 521 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 6: and a ball can't really stick. I think the misconception 522 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 6: is that the ball has to stick with Jalen. Jalen 523 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 6: to me, is an incredible high basketball like you guy, Yes, 524 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 6: he's gonna get his buckets. But if you gave him 525 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 6: somebody that also was drawing a double team, which is 526 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 6: Tip's favorite thing to say, like he gonn pass the rock, 527 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 6: he gonna get off of it because he's a winner. 528 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 6: So I would actually be okay if they ran it 529 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 6: back and they were healthy. But whoever it is, you 530 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 6: gotta be a real hooper and not in the NBA 531 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 6: because of the lifestyle and you just happen to be talented. 532 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 3: Devin Booker. They've been saying, what's your thoughts? 533 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 6: Don't love that two ball dominant and what we're doing 534 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 6: on the other side of the ball, And I just 535 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 6: I don't. I just I don't love that one. 536 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 3: Bronnie, Ronnie. 537 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 6: I mean, I see where you're going there, right, I 538 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 6: do see where you're going. Look, that is the literally 539 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 6: lebron James test free agency sincerely right, two places in 540 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 6: my mind, Philly has the money, they could actually do it, 541 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 6: and everybody's like he can't go to Philly, no chance. 542 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 6: And then in terms of brand and start power, like 543 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 6: it ain't no place like New York. I don't think 544 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 6: that's realistic. But that's a guy. You don't question his 545 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 6: work ethic, you don't question his availability, like he gonna 546 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 6: hoop when he went as long as he's. 547 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: Outhy, you're gonna who is Brownie ready for the lead? 548 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 6: I have not watched Brownie enough, so I can't say, 549 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 6: but I do appreciate that. I think my favorite thing 550 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 6: in this process, as the highlights have come down from 551 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 6: the combine, was his player comps like he was honest, 552 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 6: like he's like. 553 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,239 Speaker 1: These are the kind of guys that I love. 554 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 6: Dave Yon Mitchell, like they called him off night in 555 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 6: college because when he guards, the other guys have off nights, 556 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 6: and that comp was one of my favorites. 557 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: Obviously. 558 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 6: Derek White, I think was a guy he mentioned as 559 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 6: well who's had a tremendous path to get to where 560 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 6: he is now with the Celtics as they head to 561 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 6: the finals. So I liked that he was in touch 562 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 6: and he wasn't delusional in that way. I don't question 563 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 6: that the young man is willing to work. This draft 564 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 6: class might be the opportunity that makes most sense, because 565 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 6: you're not talking about a Victor Wembayama Zion or a 566 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 6: ja I think you can get ready, you know what 567 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 6: I'm saying. Like and if he has anybody, if he 568 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 6: has the opportunity, his dad is Lebron, he gonna he 569 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 6: gonna tell you what you need to do in terms 570 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 6: of the work, and not just from the nepotism side, 571 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 6: but literally from the work, because that's why thing Lebron 572 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 6: has never cheated. 573 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: Heit versus Brownie James one on one. 574 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: You want to like, I'm gonna say Kaitlyn off of 575 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: like go. 576 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 6: Women, but like Also, what can they play horse horse horse? 577 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 6: I'm taking Kaitlyn, okay, yeah, because she's gonna give you 578 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 6: Steph crazy shots. 579 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: I think one on one. 580 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I have not watched Bonnie close enough. 581 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 6: I can't say okay, okay, but I'm just in my 582 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 6: head a little more athleticism there that could be problematic. 583 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 5: You said something earlier that was like you said, the 584 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 5: person has to want to play ball, not the lifestyle. 585 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta want to hoop. You gotta want to 586 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 6: work and hoop. You can't just be an NBA player 587 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 6: because of the lifestyle. 588 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 5: I feel like you said that and I never even 589 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 5: thought about it, But I feel like that's the majority 590 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,239 Speaker 5: of the league. It feels like a lot of these 591 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 5: people are just into the lifestyle as opposed to. 592 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: Wanting to go out there and really be the best. 593 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the hell of a lifestyle. I ain't 594 00:22:59,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: mad at him. 595 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 6: If if you are talented enough that your talent keeps 596 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 6: you afloat, then God bless you. Like I ain't that talented. 597 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 6: I gotta work hard, Like you know what I'm saying, 598 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 6: and I don't. That is a real like only you know, 599 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 6: only well, I should say that only you and your 600 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 6: teammates know who those types of guys are. But to me, 601 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 6: the culture that Tibbs has built those guys off days, 602 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 6: what are those I mean besides taking care of their 603 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 6: bodies a medical but like the opportunity to go improve 604 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 6: your game, Like a dude like Josh Hart can't survive 605 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 6: playing three straight forty eight minute contests because he just 606 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 6: skating off talent, Like even if the work is not 607 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 6: necessarily on your feet, it's how you eat, is taking 608 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 6: care of your body, like, you know what I mean? 609 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 6: And this current Knix group is a really cool group 610 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 6: of dudes that are willing to work. 611 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 3: I think the NIXT team this year is gonna change 612 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: the league a little bit. 613 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 4: The way that they work, the way that they hustle, 614 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: the way that they want minutes, the way that they 615 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 4: dive on the floor. 616 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: They look like old NBA, the way they play. 617 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. 618 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 6: I think that's fair, and I think I in the 619 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 6: last couple of years, y'all, I'm like, simple things should 620 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 6: not be conflated with easy, right. 621 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: It sounds simple to just play hard. 622 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 6: And work out out work everybody, but that's not necessarily easy, 623 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying when that's your identity, and 624 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 6: I think that is what has allowed them to be 625 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 6: so successful. But then you look at their leadership, whether 626 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 6: you argue about top tip or in the minutes or not, 627 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 6: you never gonna question his preparation. The same thing with 628 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 6: Jason and Bruston has won at every level. You never 629 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 6: gonna question his preparation. He's not gonna cheat the work, 630 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 6: and so that sets the temperament of the entire team. 631 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, what you said, that line you said made me 632 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 5: think of even college with the nil right, because I'm like, 633 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: what do you tell these youngins that are in school 634 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 5: who have the talent, and they have the talent enough 635 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 5: to make the millions of dollars that they're making, Like, 636 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 5: what do you tell them to keep them motivated? Other 637 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 5: than there's more money in the NBA. So it's like 638 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 5: money is the motivation now? 639 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 6: So I still lifestyle, right, Well, I think we could 640 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 6: throw in like true love of the game, right, like 641 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 6: for whatever may come with it. There are dudes in 642 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 6: the league that we know just love the game, right, 643 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 6: like Kyrie's on this renaissance store if you want to 644 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 6: call it that. But like you never questioned whether he 645 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 6: loved the game and his talent, right, it was some 646 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 6: other stuff right, Like you look at a guy to 647 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 6: me like Drew Holladay, I don't question that he loves 648 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 6: the game. Jay Lebronhaw question Jason tato Oh, Like I 649 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 6: don't question that those dudes love the game. Now, they 650 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 6: might not always come to the podium spitting fire, like 651 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 6: you know, being in tense, but like, I don't question 652 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 6: that they love the game of basketball. And I think 653 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 6: when you truly are in it not just for the love, 654 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 6: but also to win at a high level. And I'm 655 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 6: talking from my experience and I finished playing ball in college, Like, 656 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 6: there is not a sacrifice that is too great when 657 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 6: you're all. 658 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: In you what are your early thoughts? You look like we' 659 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 5: about to get a Boston, Dallas great cities. 660 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: I'm happy about that. 661 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sad for Many and one of my 662 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 6: home wisdom is part of the Many organization. But this 663 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 6: is gonna be a great series. Like the security guard downstairs, 664 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 6: like who you Got? And I was like, bro, I'm 665 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 6: not already make picture yet, I can I'm not ready 666 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 6: to make picks. 667 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: I really feel like this is Boston's year. 668 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 3: That has been playing though Dallas been balling. 669 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 6: Dallas has been balling against the defense that can't deal. 670 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 6: Boston has the pieces to deal right like Drew Holliday, 671 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 6: I know, Defensive Player the Year Rudy Gobert, like respect it, 672 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 6: but in terms of most versatile defenders, like if that 673 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 6: was a separate award, Drew Halliday. 674 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: Oj Nnoby, like those type of dudes that can guard went. 675 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: Through five, who stops Kyrie? 676 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: The team it's a collective. 677 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 6: But listen to me, if if if they're running pick 678 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 6: and roll right, Drew got switched with I don't know 679 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 6: the first three. 680 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: The other three guards right, Tatum. 681 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: Brown, White, White. 682 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: That ain't easy. 683 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 6: Now, I'm not saying Kyrie still might not finish with 684 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 6: thirty and I'm not saying Luca's not gonna hear some 685 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 6: crazy shots, but they also got to go down the 686 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 6: other end. 687 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to defend as a collective. 688 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 6: Now, Dallas's defense has been a lot better than I 689 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 6: think folks gave a credit for, particularly after those trades. 690 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: And I love the hunger that PJ. 691 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 6: Washington and Daniel gafferd have brought to that team, coming 692 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 6: from organizations that wasn't doing nothing. But at the same time, 693 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 6: like the chess match of this might very well come 694 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 6: down to Missoula and Jason Kidd on the sideline, right, 695 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 6: Like you got Drew Halliday who has won, you got 696 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 6: Kyrie who has won. Both won alongside time faces of 697 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 6: the league type of guys, respectively. So there's an experience 698 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 6: there as a collective. But ofn't been to a few 699 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 6: finals a couple at this point, right, so like they 700 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 6: get it. And as much as Kyrie experience, Kyrie's experience 701 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 6: is powering the MAVs, Like what does the rest of 702 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 6: that group look like on the biggest. 703 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: Stage, assuming that they're going to get there? We're not. 704 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 6: We don't count Minnesota all the way out till they 705 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 6: all the way out. But I'm excited for this finals. 706 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 6: I'm really excited for this final and this finals. If 707 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 6: these if the conference finals end in five, like this 708 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 6: is going seven. 709 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: This is going to be so much fun. 710 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 6: Kyrie the villain back at the team. He was once 711 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 6: a part of the logo, right, Christaphrazinger gets healthy. He 712 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 6: was in Dallas at one point like this, I'm excited 713 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 6: for this. 714 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: One question, what's your thoughts on the gambling of the NBA. 715 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: Now I hate it. 716 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: That was why. 717 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: I just think it's dangerous. And even this year when. 718 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 6: The Porter Kid had his episode, I just was like, 719 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 6: I understand making an example, but literally, whether it's insert 720 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 6: gambling property here, the. 721 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: Tagline of the commercial is and suard effects and if 722 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: you need help, call on gambling. 723 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 6: So now we're gonna like we're not presenting something that 724 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 6: comes with the cautionary tail, and now this dude gets 725 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 6: no grace. I felt like that was incredibly unfair. I 726 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 6: also think that besides, like. 727 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: He was the example. Though he was the example. He 728 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 4: wasn't a big player where it would hurt. He was 729 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 4: the example. 730 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 6: I feel you envy, but you really gonna roll us 731 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 6: out with the caution tape and then I have no 732 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 6: grace because. 733 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: They wouldn't do that to the point they wouldn't do 734 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: a bigger star. Yeah, absolutely not. 735 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 6: Then you have zero grace, Like if this is if 736 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 6: this actually could turn into a problem, we're just gonna 737 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 6: skip the part that you might have a problem, and 738 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 6: you just got to be then example. I thought that 739 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 6: that was heavy handed and unfair. I do get it though, 740 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 6: but like I thought it was heavy handed affair in general, 741 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 6: it's also changing the dynamics between these players and fans 742 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 6: in such a crazy way. 743 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: I hate it because now you've got fans and they're 744 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: talking about one more bad I'm. 745 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: Like, what you know? 746 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean one more rebaild. I gotta get my pall later. 747 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: It's like, what come on? 748 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 6: Like, I love my cousin. It's clueless about sports. Send 749 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 6: me Probably it's talk about something grum trut went little dollar. 750 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 6: I'm like, I cannot, I cannot like. And I get it, 751 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 6: like engaging more money for the league, all that good stuff, 752 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 6: But I really think we are entering very murky space, 753 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 6: particularly college space. 754 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, m hm, I'm not 755 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: a fan. 756 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: You don't trust the integrity of players. 757 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 6: I trust the integrity of players, But I think it's 758 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 6: only adding more pressure to what is already a pressure cooker. 759 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: You got you right, because now. 760 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 6: If first of all, anybody sitting on the court and 761 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 6: I can hear you hollering about your parlor. 762 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: You paid a grip for them tickets. I don't know 763 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: what your relationship with gambling is. 764 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 6: You hollering at players we already got you know, you 765 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 6: saying X y Z the wrong thing? Like a player 766 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 6: can turn to a rep and be like, you know, 767 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 6: they gotta go. It just creates more attension in my 768 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 6: mind that just doesn't need to be there. Sports are 769 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 6: already emotional enough, and then you talking about people's. 770 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 4: Money, oh god, or a play that's not making a 771 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 4: lot of money, like like what happened with Porter and say, 772 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: you know what, I'm a Paul lady is when I 773 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: scored ten points, I'm sick. 774 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: I need to come out the game. 775 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 6: Which is why I understand why he had to be 776 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 6: made an example, because there can be no room for that. 777 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 6: But even we just started talking about officiating, right, like 778 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 6: gambling is just putting so much more pressure on everything 779 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 6: that's right everything. 780 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 5: Is it true that you got engaged and not your 781 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: phone in the water? 782 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: What happened? 783 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Yes, that is true. 784 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 6: He was recording no no, no, I didn'tkno get in 785 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 6: the water. We were in Grenada. Some of our best 786 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 6: pictures have come on, like self timer, and he timed 787 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 6: it and got on one knee on a self timer. 788 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 6: Then the wave came and knocked the phone over. So 789 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 6: before I can say yes, I'm like your phone and 790 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 6: he's like is that yes? So I'm like yeah, but 791 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 6: your phone, like we need that. 792 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: It was a really fun, great moment, good story. 793 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: Like you didn't look at that as a sign, Like, 794 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: oh my god, that I did. 795 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 6: Not look at that as a sign. I was like 796 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 6: very shocked in the moment. No, no chance that that 797 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 6: was a sign. If anything, the phone was able to recover. 798 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 6: Thus the signs that we will navigate adversity together. 799 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 2: Oooh okay. 800 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: I like turning that. 801 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: I like that. 802 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 5: Is it tough balancing a career and a relationship because 803 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 5: they like to tell women you can't have it all. 804 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: My fiance is amazing and we're both in sports, so 805 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: he gets it. We get it. Is it tough? 806 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, anything worth happening is tough. Is it tough maintaining 807 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 6: your relationships? 808 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: To y'all? 809 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? In your career? And so 810 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: I think it's funny, y'all. 811 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 6: I hear my mom and my aunts and my grandmother 812 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 6: is more in the last year than I think I 813 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 6: ever have it. Just that one line, keep on living, right, 814 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 6: I know, y'all, you know what I'm saying. I know 815 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 6: we all heard that, right, keep on living? And I 816 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 6: think the closer I get to both my dreams professionally 817 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 6: and personally, I'm like, oh, this is what they're talking about. 818 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 6: It's beautiful and I'm excited, but there is a level 819 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 6: of energy and maintenance required so that these things are 820 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 6: healthy that you can't skirt, you know what I mean. 821 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 6: And so, yes, it's tough, but I'm absolutely enjoying it 822 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 6: and I'm so thankful to have a partner that gets it. 823 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 6: We you know, really starting to have the conversations about 824 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 6: family planning and what that looks like because we're all 825 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 6: over the place with our jobs and so those are 826 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 6: not always comfortable conversations. 827 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: But the beauty of it is. 828 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 6: And one of the reasons that I felt for him 829 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 6: was like I realized very early, like this is the 830 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 6: type of teammate and partner that I want to do 831 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 6: life with. It ain't always going to be easy, but 832 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 6: I want to figure it out with you. 833 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: We had a little rel up here, and a little 834 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: rel said, you should focus on the marriage, not the wedding. 835 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 5: He said, so many people focus on the wedding, but 836 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 5: not what the actual marriage will entail, what the marriage 837 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 5: will look like. 838 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 6: A man retweet I agree, Now, granted, my wedding, my 839 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 6: wedding plan on Mliss Williams is amazing. 840 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: It's going to beautiful. 841 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 6: But we are also very intentional about working on our 842 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 6: foundation beyond that, Like that's a day. I think the 843 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 6: older you get people jobs all across the country, family 844 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 6: members getting older. We really wanted a moment for everybody 845 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 6: to celebrate, but we are not naive that that's just 846 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 6: the day to celebrate, and there's a real substance and 847 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 6: foundation that we're building now. 848 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how tall your fiance is. 849 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: How tall is he? He's six? 850 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: For he's six? 851 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: Okay? Would you have. 852 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 5: No? 853 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: No? 854 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 6: He got an NBA player name, but no, he's not 855 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 6: in bare Players association he works with. He's not an ex, 856 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 6: he's not a player. He is my high I know 857 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 6: where you're going with this. 858 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 4: No, But the reason I say that is Charlemagne always 859 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 4: says that, you know, women told women should date short 860 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 4: man and always say he's too short. 861 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: He always feels a way because he says short man. 862 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: He's just making this. 863 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll get it straight. 864 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: Do you want to ask. 865 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 4: You're making you would you have a date a guy 866 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: as small as Charlamage Because a lot of times tall 867 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 4: women don't date that much shorter. 868 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 6: So I think, Charlemagne, you're a little short for me. 869 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 6: But I have opened my mind too short. And my 870 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 6: fiance knows this, like there was a time in my 871 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 6: life and I can remember me and my best friend 872 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 6: like we was hoop girls. He's like girl six threes 873 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 6: the minimum, like maybe six seven would be amazing, like whatever, whatever. 874 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: My fiance is six foot like and for me, I 875 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: had to be five two, No, probably not. 876 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 6: I had to get to a very real place where 877 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 6: it was like what matters. And my therapist, she gave 878 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 6: me this project. She's like your ABC list. I've applied 879 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 6: this to relationships, work, friendships, the whole bit, like what 880 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 6: what have you had in the past. 881 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: What do you fall for? 882 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 6: And what are the actual non negotiables? And my fiance 883 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 6: checked all the non negotiables and I was like, all right, bet, 884 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 6: Like height is not as big. 885 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: A deal as I thought it was. 886 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 5: I'm not about to argue with you about missing your 887 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 5: blessings because you haven't missed any you got you got 888 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 5: a great. 889 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: You got a great Yes, I got it it. 890 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 6: Great things coming small packages. I will give you that 891 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 6: for sure. Yes, But I just think there is that 892 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 6: is a very personal decision. Like I have had friends 893 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 6: that are my girl. 894 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't do it. True, 895 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 1: It's true. 896 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: My sister is extreme and you might have your blessing 897 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 4: because she was like when I wear heels, I tower 898 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 4: over and I she didn't want to date anybody, you know, Charlomagne's. 899 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 2: Dating is a very personal. 900 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: It is a person decision. 901 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 6: It is bro I I have heels that I'm taller 902 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 6: than my fiance and and he's fine with it. And 903 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 6: I found that to be something that I loved as 904 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 6: we continue to get to know one another and got 905 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 6: deeper in our relationship because I've dated taller dudes. I 906 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 6: still wasn't as tall as you, but they didn't like 907 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 6: how tall I wasn't heels right, and so like what 908 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 6: I'm supposed to do. I want to feel good too, 909 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 6: and so like he's like, if you feel good, I'm good, 910 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 6: let's go, let's grow. And that's important. But I have 911 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 6: heard women equate the height things to feel and protected, 912 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 6: which I did. 913 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: I get. I don't fight, I get it, I do 914 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 2: get it. 915 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 6: But almost like society are we in where you got 916 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 6: a lot to drop your bat, Like, what's going on? 917 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: Tell us about your nonprofit Grow Our Game. 918 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 6: Okay, so that's actually my homegirl Jones shout out to 919 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 6: her true New Yorker. 920 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: She's a hooper referee. 921 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 6: She runs the organization Grow Our Game, which is basically 922 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 6: keeping girls in sport from the age I think her baby. 923 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 6: Her youngest babies are four all the way up to thirteen, 924 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 6: and they have activations all through the city. They work 925 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 6: out a lot in Harlem, but the parents are in. 926 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 6: Sea's energy is undeniable. She's effervescent, the kind of girl 927 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 6: that got the zest for life and is just using 928 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 6: sports as a vehicle to help these young women grow 929 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 6: and develop in their confidence. At the end of every practice, 930 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 6: that usually wrap it up with affirmations, you are kind, 931 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 6: you are smart, you are beautiful, and you could do anything. 932 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 6: And I think it's about using sport as a vehicle. 933 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 6: And I know I'm a product of the power of 934 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 6: sports for women. But at the same time, she has 935 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 6: helped some young women go on to play D one 936 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 6: college ball, and I think that is beautiful. And so 937 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 6: the things that sport gave me, y'all, in terms of confidence, friendship, 938 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 6: the ability to communicate. All of those are foundational to life, 939 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 6: whether you go on and play at a high level 940 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 6: or not. And so it's been such a blessing to 941 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 6: be able to help put Grow our Game on and 942 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 6: partner with them in that work. The girl's got a 943 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 6: ton of interergy. It's some hooper's in there. The parents 944 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 6: are about it and like, like I said, my girl 945 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 6: she's whoo. She is always on energy, bunny like and 946 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 6: I just love her passion for life. 947 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: How do we support that? 948 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 6: She's all you can follow on Instagram Grow our Game. 949 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 6: The logo is GOG and it's a black and white logo. 950 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 6: Make sure you got the right one. Definitely top in there. 951 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 6: I'm sure there's links there to donate and get involved, 952 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 6: and I'm always kind of trying to shout them out. 953 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: So it's super dope. 954 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 5: I want to have one more question, what do you 955 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 5: think about this new media world that we live in 956 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 5: where you have, you know, the athletes hosting podcast, athletes 957 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 5: hosting the YouTube. 958 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 2: Shows like you. 959 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 5: What do you think of that and how is that 960 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 5: impacting traditional outlets like the ESPN. 961 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 6: I love hearing directly from athletes now. I will also say, 962 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 6: as someone in the media. I also shut it all 963 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 6: down on purpose just because I need to recharge, right, 964 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 6: and I'm sure y'all can relate to that. I think 965 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 6: there are more players, both men and women, that are 966 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 6: interested in doing it and giving a true behind the 967 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,240 Speaker 6: scenes lens than there are interested in. Maybe creating petty 968 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 6: beef is a nonsense, right, but the idea of accountability, 969 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 6: I'm okay with that, Like you cannot fire off at 970 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 6: the hip and not expect anybody to say anything right 971 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 6: or not expect anybody to respond. And so I know 972 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 6: because I can remember in journalism school, like as this 973 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 6: was starting to change and Twitter was released or ex 974 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 6: was really starting to get popular, some of the og 975 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 6: writers were kind of like I used to be a newsbreaker. 976 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 6: Now guys can break their own news. And I still 977 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 6: think there's space for relationships and healthy relationships with trained journalists. 978 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 6: But I also think it's okay to hear directly front 979 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 6: players on their experience. I mean, whether you like or 980 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 6: Draymond Green or not, Like his podcast is captivating, particularly 981 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 6: after something happened in the game he got address it, 982 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 6: like those are the pods. 983 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: That have the best numbers. 984 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 6: I mean, you look at a guy like jj Reddick, right, 985 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 6: who was an athlete, has really delved in embraced the 986 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 6: media thing. And who knows what his next chapter may be, 987 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 6: whether he wants to go on to the peak millennial. 988 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 6: You can have as many careers as you want, So 989 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 6: I think it's cool. I think it's cool. I think 990 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 6: it still needs to be done with respect. And if 991 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 6: you really got an issue, people front facing are not 992 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 6: hard to find. They got managers and teams, Like, everything 993 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 6: doesn't necessarily have to be addressed over the public media. 994 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 5: One last question, as a journalist, what is the number 995 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 5: one mistake that people in new media are making? 996 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 2: Because you're you're a journalist, yeah right, So what do 997 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 2: you think the number one mistake? 998 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 5: And I'm not talking about just even with the sports, 999 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 5: just in general, all of these people with podcast, YouTube 1000 00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 5: platforms and everything. 1001 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 6: You think so, and this is where you got to 1002 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 6: define yourself, right, Like are you trying to fall into 1003 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 6: the journalism category or the discussion category? Because credibility is 1004 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 6: so fragile, right, It's easily broken and it's hard to 1005 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 6: restore it. So I think whatever wherever you are, be 1006 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 6: mindful of your credibility, right, Like, if you want to 1007 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 6: talk about a hot button issue, do the appropriate research, 1008 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 6: or if you're just going glaze over it, you need 1009 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,879 Speaker 6: to be very clear. This is just high level. I'm 1010 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 6: not the source on this, Like I'm just touching it 1011 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 6: because I think what you can do inadvertently not just 1012 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 6: credibility with like your audience, but if you want to matriculate, 1013 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 6: say say in sports, like you got people that you 1014 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 6: have to work with that are looking at you like 1015 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 6: what are your actual intentions here? Like you're trying to 1016 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 6: go viral? Are you trying to respect the craft? And 1017 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 6: so I think credibility is something that you have to 1018 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 6: keep top of mind. 1019 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 3: All right, Well, Monica, we appreciate you joining us. 1020 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: No okay, no, no no. 1021 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 6: If we get a game five, I will be out 1022 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 6: in Minnesota. If not, I'll probably be chilling until we 1023 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 6: get ready for finals and I'll be out there. 1024 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 3: Well it's Monica Minutte. 1025 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 2: How did it follow you? 1026 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: Socials? Is mckna Monica? Same on everything? 1027 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 3: All right, It's the Breakfast Club. 1028 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, Wake that ass up in the morning. 1029 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club