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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody to the Thursday edition

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Speaker 1: with the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Getting close

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Speaker 1: to holiday break here for many of us, those who

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Speaker 1: are fortun up to get time off with friends and family.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of news, My oh my, COVID is

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Speaker 1: ripping through states in this country that but a few

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Speaker 1: months ago. We all know. We're lecturing places like Florida

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Speaker 1: on how they just weren't taking the virus seriously enough.

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Speaker 1: You'll notice the tone is very different when New York

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Speaker 1: City has a tripling of the positivity percentage for COVID

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Speaker 1: tests in just a matter of days. They've never had

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Speaker 1: that before. You have some places now on track to

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Speaker 1: set all time highs for cases and others all time

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Speaker 1: highs for hospitalizations. We're going to get into the latest

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Speaker 1: on that. You've also got Democrats discussing voting rights issues,

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Speaker 1: a possible break in the philibuster to get that voting

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Speaker 1: rights issue through, maybe adding a few Supreme Court justices too.

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Speaker 1: They're throwing it all out there, folks, because Biden's not

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Speaker 1: getting it done. First year is a catastrophe that much

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Speaker 1: as obvious to everyone, even if you're a Democrat. The

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Speaker 1: first year has been a catastrophe because he hasn't gotten

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Speaker 1: the wish list through. They still might plus Musk versus

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Speaker 1: Warren continues on Clay, I will have some fun with

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Speaker 1: that one. She's going back at him. She has not

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Speaker 1: decided to bury the hatchet. So we have a lot

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Speaker 1: to get into here, and I wanted to start with

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Speaker 1: a quick anecdote. Yesterday. Yesterday I went into the gym

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Speaker 1: and I was alone, and then five people came in

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Speaker 1: after me, one after another. And in New York, now, Clay,

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Speaker 1: we got signs up everywhere. You got a mask up

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Speaker 1: in gyms again, And this is mine. This is the

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Speaker 1: thing that made me hate Fouch she almost more than

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Speaker 1: anything else, because you have people who are all there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a treadmill guy, but obviously, but people who

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Speaker 1: and it's so stupid. One afternother, they're coming behind me

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Speaker 1: and they see me no mask, they take their masks off.

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Speaker 1: And finally I think people are realizing this is just

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Speaker 1: it's too stupid. Oh. A couple of weeks ago it

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Speaker 1: was safe. Now it's not safe. And we had this

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Speaker 1: and you sent this out to our team last night.

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Speaker 1: The CEOs of Southwest air and American Airlines, because remember

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Speaker 1: planes of the place, they never budged on masking on planes,

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Speaker 1: and here they are saying, then mask on planes don't

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Speaker 1: really do anything. That's what they're telling us Clip number five, sir,

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Speaker 1: So we'll play it is very strong that mask don't

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Speaker 1: add much, if anything in the air cabin environment. It's

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Speaker 1: very safe and very high quality compare to any other

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Speaker 1: indoor setting. Mister Parker, I concur. The aircraft is a

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Speaker 1: safe place you can be. That's true of Oliver aircraft.

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Speaker 1: They all have these heype of filters in the same airflow.

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Speaker 1: So what's funny about this, buck is that was, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Senate testimony. So they're under oath there. The

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Speaker 1: American and Southwest CEOs are both retiring. They are going

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Speaker 1: other CEO immediately said, I concur because it's all a sham.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love And by the way, this is

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Speaker 1: the place where you talked about being in the gym

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Speaker 1: wear a mask. Thankfully, I've never had to do that

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Speaker 1: where I live. But the idea that I have to

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Speaker 1: the fact that I have to put a mask on

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Speaker 1: understand there's people out there saying, what's the big deal,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter that much. It does matter if

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Speaker 1: helpful and that is actually making me comply with a

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Speaker 1: about it, and I love. Finally, after eighteen months, the

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Speaker 1: It's all cosmetic theater. There's no basis in reality for

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Speaker 1: mask curity. We all know, Yes, this is the place

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Speaker 1: where they're the most absurd, the most I was on

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Speaker 1: that Spirit Airlines flight wherever i've I've tweeted this when

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Speaker 1: we all had to wait forty five minutes. Then they

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Speaker 1: what the full offense was. It was below the nose.

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Speaker 1: They've I've been on planes where they've woken people up

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Speaker 1: These people are sociopaths, and I'm sorry. I've talked to

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Speaker 1: people work at airlines. They don't have to do this,

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Speaker 1: But I guess there are a lot of libs working

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Speaker 1: the libs around them as passengers. But this is just

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Speaker 1: one example yet again of what we've said all along here.

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Speaker 1: The notion that you were at so much risk on

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Speaker 1: and how many different places in America and you sit

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Speaker 1: eating Right now, I got I got my coffee this

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Speaker 1: a Starbucks. I know, I know, Boomy. Later I'm at Starbucks,

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Speaker 1: I get my coffee and there are people that are

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Speaker 1: in line with masks on. Everyone sitting down is unmasked.

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Speaker 1: Someone explained this to me, Clay. They act like this

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Speaker 1: is going to stop omikron. You've got to be kidding me.

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Speaker 1: What about just on the airplane itself. You can eat

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Speaker 1: soon as you're done, you have to put it back up.

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Speaker 1: You're taking your mask off to eat and drink. And

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Speaker 1: the one that that really my wife gets frustrated because

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Speaker 1: I live in Nashville, right when you walk through the

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Speaker 1: In other words, instead of facing towards the wall or

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Speaker 1: Buck is the kind of rules that authoritarian regimes put

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Speaker 1: all of these illogical rules which are often based on

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Speaker 1: when you look at what the numbers are right now, Clay,

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Speaker 1: how could you think that Fauci and the health bureaucrats

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Speaker 1: you know, a bit, but not entirely. Even if vaccinated.

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Speaker 1: It's better, certainly to be vaccinated than not. But there

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Speaker 1: There's still people. Again, think about what was promised six

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Speaker 1: six hundred a week as omicron becomes a dominant strain,

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Speaker 1: and that's according to CDC forecast. So we went through

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, We've done all this masking, all the

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Speaker 1: And that's significant because Joe Biden, when did he come

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Speaker 1: And I remember last year, we barely had any vaccines

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Speaker 1: big omicron outbreak. Specifically, as I understand it, over nine

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Speaker 1: hundred cases Clay. According to Cornell's own administrators, almost all

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Speaker 1: vaccinated individuals, because you had to be vaccinated to be

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Speaker 1: you're much safer if you're vaccinated. No, no no, no, The

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Speaker 1: twenty year olds who are getting vaccinated were never at risk.

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Speaker 1: They were forced to get the shot. Let's remember, they

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Speaker 1: the pandemic of the unvaccinated line that Biden used is

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Speaker 1: not accurate, it's not fair. It's also just a complete lie.

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Speaker 1: And it's like six months old. Remember one of the

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Speaker 1: first things Joe Biden said, if you want to go

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Speaker 1: back in time a year ago when he took office,

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Speaker 1: he said guys, if we just wear masks for one

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Speaker 1: hundred days, COVID will be over. That was his first pitch, Hey,

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Speaker 1: and COVID will disappear. Now, thankfully, at least we got

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Speaker 1: the American and Southwest Airline CEOs who are coming out

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Speaker 1: If they don't make sense there, they don't make sense anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Masks are a sham. The focus should be on getting

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Speaker 1: download the podcast. You can scroll through pick out anything

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Speaker 1: you want. You'll be able to listen to it. But

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Speaker 1: one thing that nobody's talking about, this transgender swimmer issue,

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Speaker 1: this story a decent amount. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: politics and the failure of identity politics as a rely

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Speaker 1: women's athlete spokespeople Title nine adherents who believe that women

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Speaker 1: and I'm one of these people, are the equal of

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Speaker 1: men and that they deserve the right to compete at

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Speaker 1: the highest possible level against other women. And then you

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Speaker 1: they should be applauded for this. And you can't be both.

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Speaker 1: You have to pick a side. And these are two

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Speaker 1: theoretically left wing groups. I'm one hundred percent confident in

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Speaker 1: picking my side. I'm on the favor of biological women

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Speaker 1: the vast majority of Democrats, Republicans, Independence, anyone who cares

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Speaker 1: the only people. An OutKick is one of the only

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Speaker 1: media sites that will even cover this story. Buck. The

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Speaker 1: parents of these Upen swimmers, probably many of them liberal,

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Speaker 1: written a letter now to the NC DOUBLEA saying this

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Speaker 1: article about this direct threat to women's athletics. And this

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Speaker 1: was no other committee. Right, Well, what do you do

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Speaker 1: You have HR departments, you have college admissions offices, you

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Speaker 1: obviously universities, all the university administrators will get on board

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Speaker 1: with this, but it always comes as part of the collective.

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Speaker 1: Individuals will not make this argument, Clay, because they know

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Speaker 1: the committee, if you will, or the collective. I put

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Speaker 1: filled with blue check market brigade members who are running

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Speaker 1: And I just said, asked the simple question, right, do

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Speaker 1: gender to a woman? Okay? Simple question. Over twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: people voted so far in the first couple of hours,

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Speaker 1: And if you want to vote in this, you can

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Speaker 1: go find me on Twitter at Clay Travis scrolled down buck.

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Speaker 1: Ninety eight percent of people said no, ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 1: You know how hard it is to get ninety eight

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Speaker 1: So I started tagging people, right. Megan Rapino, she's always

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Speaker 1: talking about women's She's so brave because she wouldn't go

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Speaker 1: Jamal Hill, Remember Jamal Hill said Donald Trump was a

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Speaker 1: white supremacist. She won't talk about it. Pat Forty, who's

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Speaker 1: If men are able to be female swimmers, she wouldn't

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Speaker 1: all the time. He won't comment on it ESPN. As

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Speaker 1: I said, Buck hasn't even written a single story about

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Speaker 1: this case. It is unbelievable. It's a conspiracy of silence

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Speaker 1: because this is Buck. For for a long time they said, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is never gonna Oh that's why, that's why they

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Speaker 1: quiet because the way that they tried to shut down

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Speaker 1: individuals in female prisons, which is also now that's been

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Speaker 1: to imagine them. If you're a guy who's facing life

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you, Right? And now, what are the standards for this?

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Speaker 1: And all? You've got to say some things to the

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Speaker 1: because we can point to you said this was never

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Speaker 1: going to happen, and clearly you were full of it,

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Speaker 1: which has been true. This is the incrementalism that the

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Speaker 1: In fact, they'll call you ticketed for even raising what

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Speaker 1: they pretend like it didn't. It's effectively gas lighting on

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Speaker 1: a massive scale. It is remarkable though, that of all

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Speaker 1: the women in sports media, for example, yeah, they're not

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Speaker 1: going to come forward and stand up for women's sports.

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Speaker 1: Women's sports are actually at risk here as a serious endeavor.

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Speaker 1: That is the reality of what is unders What is

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Speaker 1: the point of trying to be the best in your league,

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Speaker 1: remember years ago you used to do CrossFit clay. You'd

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Speaker 1: there with you know. I'm not speaking for it personally,

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Speaker 1: clear physical specimens, I mean working out every day. The

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Speaker 1: press than the I mean, we all see this. It's

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Speaker 1: reality around us all the time. Pound for pound. My

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Speaker 1: wife is a much better athlete than she's also five

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Speaker 1: foot two, one hundred and five pounds. Like the idea

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Speaker 1: six foot one eighty ish. I say one eighty is

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Speaker 1: because it's kind of the holidays and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: exactly what I weigh right now, But the idea is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody out there understands it, and buck It's not even

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Speaker 1: just male versus female. We decide, for instance, in boxing

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Speaker 1: We have different standards for state championships because the school

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Speaker 1: that has three thousand students shouldn't be able to be

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Speaker 1: judged against the school that has three hundred. This is

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Speaker 1: a big part of fairness and athletics. We have all

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Speaker 1: different sorts of weight classes, all different sorts of designations.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to what schools public versus private. Some

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Speaker 1: schools give scholarships and they don't. Big colleges small I

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Speaker 1: wrote in college happened all the time I wrote in college.

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Speaker 1: It would have been great. If I could have wrote

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Speaker 1: as a lightweight, I would have been I would have

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Speaker 1: been a kick ass lightweight. I was a heavyweight in college.

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Speaker 1: So here's the deal, Buck, I suck at golf. I

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Speaker 1: love to golf. I don't get to do it as

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Speaker 1: much since I had kids. If I got to play

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Speaker 1: from the women teas, I would be pretty damn good

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Speaker 1: at golf. If I got to take two hundred yards

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Speaker 1: off as some of the holes, I'd be getting a

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Speaker 1: lot more birdies. It would be ridiculous, Like if you

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Speaker 1: and your buddies are playing, I mean, it's kind of

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Speaker 1: funny and ridiculous, but it points to the absurdity. And

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Speaker 1: you walked up and you were like today, I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: teas the whole day and you crushed your buddies. They

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Speaker 1: would they wouldn't allow you to do it. First of all,

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Speaker 1: because it's the very essence of competition. You almost think

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Speaker 1: the only way this goes away is you know in

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Speaker 1: a Usta tennis, right, there's the challenge, there's the challenger

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Speaker 1: matches beforehand. You can get into those pretty easily. They

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Speaker 1: can have the man who's you know, number two fifty

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Speaker 1: Open Tennis Championship. If he wins, I think he gets

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Speaker 1: four or five million dollars with someone willing to do that.

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Speaker 1: Are you willing to pretend you're a woman for a

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Speaker 1: week for four or five million dollars? I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people the answer would be, well, not a lot,

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Speaker 1: but some people answer would be it's almost on some

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Speaker 1: level where someone just needs to change their gender for

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Speaker 1: purposes of dominating a sport. That's what I mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but make that candid choice and not even say

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Speaker 1: it publicly, initially dominate and then say, hey, this is

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Speaker 1: all know Kat from her Fox Nation show Sincerely Cat,

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Speaker 1: to have you, Hey, great to be here. So are

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Speaker 1: So He's all, Oh, I the freedom in the Constitution,

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Speaker 1: And I'm walking around here like feeling as though I'm

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Speaker 1: all the loudspeakers. But there there are people I'm starting

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Speaker 1: and people just aren't wearing masks. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: even New Yorkers are starting to have had enough of

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Speaker 1: the madness? You know what, I think that everyone's had

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Speaker 1: whether like whether or not they feel comfortable admitting that

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Speaker 1: if you know all their friends there live. Because think

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Speaker 1: if you know, if you're people would be fleeing to

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Speaker 1: I've really had it. I mean, I just it's like

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Speaker 1: there in You can watch her on Gutfeld pretty much

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Speaker 1: every night. Kat I saw you were at the Army

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Speaker 1: the absurdity of left wing politics. Are you paying attention

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Speaker 1: to the biological man that is going to the University

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Speaker 1: I don't know that a biological guy who swam for

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Speaker 1: all time. I mean, it sounds like satire. We had

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Speaker 1: and now it's real life. Yeah. Look, I think the

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Speaker 1: important thing that you brought up there was like that

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Speaker 1: nobody will say because I'm pretty lib on social issues overall,

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to this specific story and Clay,

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Speaker 1: I saw an olt kick. You interviewed one of the

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Speaker 1: we all kind of feel like this is not fair,

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Speaker 1: but none of us can say that because we all

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Speaker 1: But it's all fake. So let's say that you are

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Speaker 1: there's a huge difference between acceptance and fake acceptance. And

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Speaker 1: can't say, hey, I don't know about this, or hey

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Speaker 1: I have a question about this, or or even just saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is a pretty complicated thing. It's not as simple

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Speaker 1: as you know. If you say that you're this, then

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Speaker 1: you can compete on these teams that could maybe even

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Speaker 1: breed more resentment and make these things even worse. I

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Speaker 1: that that's something you should be able to say and

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Speaker 1: you know, talk about openly because and that goes with everything, right,

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Speaker 1: it goes with when it comes to stuff with race

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Speaker 1: or gender anything. The more that you make people afraid

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Speaker 1: to talk, they'll let you want acceptance and you want

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Speaker 1: understanding that's going to come from talking. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's really the attitude and the way that

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Speaker 1: they're handling it and people not being able to speak.

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Speaker 1: I think it makes it worse for everybody, no matter

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Speaker 1: what side of this issue that you're on, or if

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Speaker 1: We're speaking a Cat Timph you know her from Guttfeld

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Speaker 1: at Night, where she's a frequent panelist. Also from Sincerely

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Speaker 1: Cat on Fox Nation over at Fox News Channel. Cat

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Speaker 1: is the Biden administration way worse than you thought it

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Speaker 1: the next time around. What do you see going on

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Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, I mean listen, it's bad, right. And

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. I knew it was gonna be bad.

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Speaker 1: But I remember being in New York and Buck, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you remember this when the they, you know, they

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Speaker 1: announced Biden was the winner. The revelry in the street,

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Speaker 1: like like, I saw people dancing in the streets. I

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing like some you know people like uh,

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Speaker 1: they were like snorting drugs off of the key and

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Speaker 1: like like all of this. I'm like, I live a

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Speaker 1: mile from the office, right, and I'm like, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: these people are really excited, right, Like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if anything's ever made me I actually know, I will

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Speaker 1: say nothing has ever made me that excited. Where I'm

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Speaker 1: in the street dancing around, okay, and so they all

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Speaker 1: set the bar really high, right, Like, how do they feel,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they're paying any attime at all, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's that level of excitement, or maybe the

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Speaker 1: excitement just came from whatever drugs. At least those two

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Speaker 1: were starting, but everyone else who didn't appear to be

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Speaker 1: and they really thought, you know, this was everything's going

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Speaker 1: to be great now, and you know, obviously everything's works. Kat.

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Speaker 1: When I saw that, this may be a sign of

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Speaker 1: right now. But when I saw that the Fox Christmas

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Speaker 1: Tree got burned down, my first thought wasn't like, oh

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised this hasn't happened before. Of course

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Speaker 1: they would burn down the five Fox Christmas Tree. What

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Speaker 1: was your first thought when you've heard that the Fox

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Speaker 1: Christmas Tree in New York City got burned down? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but mine was kind of

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Speaker 1: of course. I mean, it's one of these things where

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Speaker 1: like little mini protests outside the building where it's like

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Speaker 1: seven people with signs. Yeah. By the way, it reminds

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Speaker 1: it is, because if there's like thousands of protesters, but

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Speaker 1: it's kind of awkward, kind of bring them like a

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Speaker 1: hot hot It's like, hey, how are you today, Like

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Speaker 1: you can talk to them, shake their hand individually, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: sorry to cut you off, but it is funny vide there, right,

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Speaker 1: It's like the group is so small, but their signs

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Speaker 1: are like, you know that we're ruining the entire world

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Speaker 1: and this is that, And I'm like, I don't, honestly, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're all humans. Sometimes I make mistakes. You know,

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Speaker 1: I can be a jerk. Sometimes I don't think I'm

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Speaker 1: ruining the world. I think that, you know, I can

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Speaker 1: be hard on myself, but I don't think i'd ever

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Speaker 1: go that hard on myself, Kat Tim for everybody. Check

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Speaker 1: her out over at Fox Nation with sincerely Kat, and

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Speaker 1: look for her on Gutfeld on Fox News Monday through Friday. Cat,

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