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Speaker 1: Frank stamfle Greg Sussman joined once again, but the closer
Speaker 1: Chris bevenomins, Chris, what's up? Guys? How you doing? It's
Speaker 1: your boy? The close of from the weekend uh in
Speaker 1: the Fantasy and the NFL Draft. Yeah you welcome back.
Speaker 1: Couldn't have you back. Miss Day also joined once again,
Speaker 1: just as we were at last Friday, by the Fantasy
Speaker 1: tas Jim Day, Jim, what's going on? Hey? Guys, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? Happy Tuesday to you? I forgot what
Speaker 1: day it was for a second there. Yeah, I'd be
Speaker 1: Tuesday to you as well. We wanted to bring Jim
Speaker 1: on again because we did our Daniel Jones stuff. We
Speaker 1: kind of went over the first round, but the second
Speaker 1: and third, and fourth and fifth and so on, those
Speaker 1: were the rounds that we're gonna find the next I
Speaker 1: don't mean this in the negative connotation, but the next
Speaker 1: Cream Hunt, a guy that's going to more of anybody
Speaker 1: first round pick in fantasy football, the next Cooper Cup
Speaker 1: who's gonna be very, very reliable for fantasy draft. And
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring Jim on and we wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to Chris about fantasy football because there are so many,
Speaker 1: uh different ways that these rookies are going to be
Speaker 1: able to help you. Where they will be valued and
Speaker 1: where they should be That are two different questions. I
Speaker 1: want to start off, though, with Josh Jacobs. With you, Chris,
Speaker 1: because on Friday you had told us that you believe
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is a second round pick. He believed in
Speaker 1: fantasy of course, here's the first round pick. In real life.
Speaker 1: You believe that Josh Jacobs was a second round pick,
Speaker 1: you would take him before Leonard for Nette. You will
Speaker 1: leave wholeheartedly in Josh Jacobs. After the weekend. Do you
Speaker 1: still feel the same way. Yeah, I think uh, like
Speaker 1: late second, early third, I would pull the trigger maybe
Speaker 1: you know, for some people that to reach. But the
Speaker 1: Raiders don't have running backs right now. Uh. He is
Speaker 1: the guy. They drafted him in the first round for
Speaker 1: a reason. He's going to be their guy. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of being a productive fantasy running back
Speaker 1: has to do an opportunity. Uh, and he's gonna get
Speaker 1: a pretty good opportunity out of the gate. And it's
Speaker 1: not like the Raiders are, you know, anemic offensively everywhere else.
Speaker 1: They got Antonio Brown now they you know car still
Speaker 1: they're obvious lee. Um, you know they got they got
Speaker 1: other weapons besides, you know Josh Josh Jacobs so and
Speaker 1: the offensive line is still pretty good. So I think
Speaker 1: that that that he could do damage on Oakland. I
Speaker 1: think he could actually have a really productive year and
Speaker 1: B and RB two a solid r B two. Jim,
Speaker 1: you didn't wholeheartedly desuged Chris. You had him a little
Speaker 1: bit lower and just like you had Leonard four net lower. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you think of Josh jacob has Given that
Speaker 1: you've had the weekend to think about it. Now, Look,
Speaker 1: you know, he, like Chris said, he landed in a
Speaker 1: good spot. Oakland needed, you know, basically a three down back,
Speaker 1: and that's what he's gonna get him. And the thing
Speaker 1: with Jacobs for me is that, you know, he's just
Speaker 1: not a big overall talent. I mean, there's more talented
Speaker 1: running backs in this draft class than Jacobs. He just
Speaker 1: happened to land in a really good spot. And you know,
Speaker 1: like Chris said, with Brown on the outside, Tyrell Williams
Speaker 1: on the other side, you know, they got weapons to
Speaker 1: stretch the field, to keep defenses. Honest, that's gonna play
Speaker 1: into Jacob's hands. So you know, Jacob's to me right now,
Speaker 1: he is in you know, if you're doing a Dynasty
Speaker 1: rookie draft, for me, he's either picked two or picked three.
Speaker 1: And it really just depends on on you know, who
Speaker 1: else you liked more than Jacobs. For me, I think
Speaker 1: there's a couple of running backs on the board I
Speaker 1: like a little bit more. But again, Jacobs did land
Speaker 1: in a very good spot. Yeah, probably the best spot
Speaker 1: edible of the running backs on all the running backs
Speaker 1: that landed. Oh, I don't know if I so, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with that we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that here on the show. Is Josh Jacobs the
Speaker 1: first rookie running back off the board and Fantasy Football Frank, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll say so. I think he landed in a pretty
Speaker 1: good spot. It wouldn't surprise me if they maybe for
Speaker 1: the first half of the season work Isaiah Crowell in
Speaker 1: a little bit, because we've kind of seen that with
Speaker 1: rookie running backs like carry On Johnson last year. We
Speaker 1: all wanted him to be a thing right out of
Speaker 1: the gate and still had a few other They had
Speaker 1: a few other names there on the roster, a few
Speaker 1: other mouths to feed, and ultimately, once he started getting
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get you know, fifteen and twenty touches,
Speaker 1: he was he was dominating for fantasy and that was
Speaker 1: awesome to see from carry On Johnson. But could see
Speaker 1: is air Corel working a little bit here in maybe
Speaker 1: in the first half of the season, early on in
Speaker 1: the season, which could be frustrating for fantasy. I think
Speaker 1: he's probably closer to a mid to low end r
Speaker 1: B two rather than like the high end RB two,
Speaker 1: which is like ventra Is. But I think it's I
Speaker 1: think it's going to be like the way that people
Speaker 1: feel about him is kind of gonna be all over
Speaker 1: the map. Like the people who really buy into Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs and his talent, and they don't think that Isaia
Speaker 1: Kawell is going to have a role in this offense
Speaker 1: and they're not worried about that he's had his chances.
Speaker 1: I'm not defending the guy. I don't think that he's great.
Speaker 1: I mean I just watched him this past year with
Speaker 1: the Jets. Actually, you know, holds the franchise record for
Speaker 1: most yards in most rushing yards in the game for
Speaker 1: the Jets. But I don't I don't think it's very good.
Speaker 1: But they signed him for a reason. You know, they
Speaker 1: wanted some kind of vetteran backup here. Yeah, they need depth.
Speaker 1: But overall, um, I still think that he's going to
Speaker 1: have somewhat of a role. Like even if he just
Speaker 1: steals goal one, that would be really frustrating for fantasy
Speaker 1: from his pass makes you think he's good enough to
Speaker 1: steal the goal line. He's never shown that, you know,
Speaker 1: when he's had that role before in Cleveland, where you
Speaker 1: know it would it would be him on early downs
Speaker 1: and him on goal lines and then they would use
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson as a pass catcher. Yeah, but Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: wasn't that kind of back. Josh Jacobs can give him
Speaker 1: that goal line stuff. I just I don't disagree with
Speaker 1: This happens way too often where we want something to
Speaker 1: happen and we kind of talk ourselves into it, But
Speaker 1: just because we wanted to happen doesn't mean that it's
Speaker 1: going to Because it seems like every year, Greg, we
Speaker 1: want a young running back to kind of take over.
Speaker 1: And how long did it take Aaron Jones to to
Speaker 1: finally get like a full workload. We you know, there
Speaker 1: are always things that we want to happen. And yeah,
Speaker 1: like it would be awesome if right out of the
Speaker 1: gate Josh Jacobs is getting fifteen twenty touches game. I
Speaker 1: would love that for fantasy we would have another, you know,
Speaker 1: workhorse running back and then then you would probably be
Speaker 1: worth the third round pick. But can I confidently say
Speaker 1: right now on April thirtie, that's gonna happen. Know, maybe
Speaker 1: you know, come closer to the season if they give
Speaker 1: any if they give out indications or he's having like
Speaker 1: a monster preseason, and yeah, maybe I can get behind it.
Speaker 1: That's of now. I think Roll is going to have
Speaker 1: a small role in the offense and Jalen Richard is
Speaker 1: still gonna be the pass catcher. So right, I agree
Speaker 1: with you on the Jalen Richard gonna have his role.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but it won't be as big
Speaker 1: a role as last year because Jacobs can catch. And
Speaker 1: the good thing about that is that when you have
Speaker 1: him on the field, the defense doesn't know they're going
Speaker 1: to a pass. As soon as you put Jalen Richard
Speaker 1: on the field, defense is pretty much assumed as a
Speaker 1: pass coming. So having Jacob's back there as both a
Speaker 1: runner and a passer can give them a little bit
Speaker 1: more flexibility with what they want to do on the offense.
Speaker 1: He's also a pretty good pass blocker, so he's well rounded. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the other thing is like Aaron Jones is a
Speaker 1: tough example because he also to compete well rounded. Yea
Speaker 1: here man, that's a good thing. But what I'll say,
Speaker 1: he's like Aaron Jones had to compete with Jamal Williams
Speaker 1: and Time Montgomery at the beginning, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So he had another rookie to compete with, and he
Speaker 1: had a pretty good running back at a Montgomery, who
Speaker 1: had a good year this season before before Jones came.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of tough competition there. There's not
Speaker 1: much tough competition here. You know. Krowell is one dimensional,
Speaker 1: Shards one dimensional in what they do, and Josh Jacobs
Speaker 1: is well rounded all around, like he could do all
Speaker 1: the things they do, but maybe better. So he's gonna
Speaker 1: get a good shot, I think at some point. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at um, who was it, Oh Jordan Howard his rookie,
Speaker 1: right he didn't get the shot right away, but once
Speaker 1: somebody's faltering after a couple of games, Howard was right
Speaker 1: in there very soon, and he said he was like
Speaker 1: a third round pick or something like that. So it's
Speaker 1: a first round pick. I think he's gonna get his
Speaker 1: opportunity sooner rather than later. You might be right early on,
Speaker 1: it might be like a fifty fifty between him and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, krow L and whoever else in Richard, But
Speaker 1: he'll get at least fifty percent of the touches, I
Speaker 1: think right away. I agree with that. I just think,
Speaker 1: you know, for those first couple of weeks, maybe the
Speaker 1: first month, that could be a little frustrating. But once
Speaker 1: he gets the opportunity. I think he could work really well. Obviously,
Speaker 1: with that opportunity, they have Antonio Brown, so they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to get into the red zone a little
Speaker 1: bit more this year, and they'll have more scoring opportunities.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say regarding the Raiders offense.
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring this up to both of you
Speaker 1: guys because I've seen kind of mixed takes regarding Josh
Speaker 1: Jacobs and the fact that he hasn't been a workhorse
Speaker 1: running back in college. He was, you know, splitting time
Speaker 1: with Damien Harris and some of these other guys at Alabama.
Speaker 1: Now do you see that as a good thing or
Speaker 1: a bad thing, because I can kind of make the
Speaker 1: argument for both. He hasn't handled a f workload before.
Speaker 1: But he also doesn't have tread on the tire. But
Speaker 1: that's that's the thing coming into the trash, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you kill him because he hasn't we haven't seen it before,
Speaker 1: and we kill him for having too much trd of
Speaker 1: the tire. There's no wind. I don't think you could
Speaker 1: kill somebody for having too much, too little, or too
Speaker 1: much tread on the tire in college. We've we've seen
Speaker 1: that over and over, But then again, so was mel
Speaker 1: Gordon's been great. Yeah, but he's been He's also been
Speaker 1: a little injury prone too. He should be really good,
Speaker 1: though he has been, so I wanted to open that
Speaker 1: up to you guys. You becauld me personally. I land
Speaker 1: on the side that I think the fact that he
Speaker 1: doesn't have that much wear and tear is actually better
Speaker 1: for his long term NFL future. I mean, Barkley had
Speaker 1: a ton of wear and tear in college. He ran
Speaker 1: a lot in college as he's also the best physically
Speaker 1: gifted running back out of Adrian. Yeah, in years, you're right,
Speaker 1: but but at the same time, I don't think it
Speaker 1: really affects like it's when you're in college. You're young kid,
Speaker 1: your resilient, Your body comes back quicker than most. Trend
Speaker 1: on the tires in the NFL career is a different story.
Speaker 1: Once you know, you become a certain age and you
Speaker 1: have a certain amount of mileage, then it becomes a problem.
Speaker 1: But I think coming out of college that's not a
Speaker 1: big deal. I'd be more worried actually, like you said
Speaker 1: about him having not enough touches, but I think from
Speaker 1: the touches that he did have you could see why
Speaker 1: he you know, he could obviously be a well rounded,
Speaker 1: full workhlace back. Uh you think is it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a guest and game because you don't have
Speaker 1: a real full sample size to work with. So I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying. That's probably why he didn't go
Speaker 1: earlier in the first round too. That's that's part of
Speaker 1: the reason. But I don't know. I I kind of
Speaker 1: trust him. I think he'll be fine. I think once
Speaker 1: he gets a full year under his belt, it'll be fine.
Speaker 1: What do you think, I'm I'm you know, I'm with
Speaker 1: you on both sides. You can make a case either way,
Speaker 1: but we just don't know at this point. So I'm
Speaker 1: going on the fact that they went out and got
Speaker 1: the running back they wanted in the first round. Um,
Speaker 1: And that's another reason why I'm not worried about crow L.
Speaker 1: Croyle was brought in in case they couldn't get a
Speaker 1: running back in the draft that they wanted, but they did.
Speaker 1: They spent a first round draft pick on him, so
Speaker 1: there's plenty of draft capital there and they're gonna give
Speaker 1: him every chance to succeed right out of the gate,
Speaker 1: So that doesn't bother me at all. And look, this
Speaker 1: is a kid who was supposed to be the backup
Speaker 1: on his his college team, and you know, took that
Speaker 1: starting job pretty quickly away from Damian Harris and really
Speaker 1: became that go to guy for them, uh fairly early
Speaker 1: on a great team. So you know, I don't really
Speaker 1: worry about that. I think he's got a lot of talent.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's over the top type talented like
Speaker 1: a Girly or Barkley or anything like that. But this guy,
Speaker 1: if you give them, you know, two to three touches
Speaker 1: a year, he's going to be a fantasy dynamite player.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Damien Harris. I wanted to get get into
Speaker 1: him next. He was Josh Jacobs's teammate in college, and
Speaker 1: I actually really like Damian Harris when he got to Alabama,
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs did take several touches or certainly more than
Speaker 1: several touches away from Harris. Who lands with the Patriots
Speaker 1: and what's a similar role, I would think, guys to
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle. And I really understand the draft pick of
Speaker 1: the Patriots because you have Sony Michelle, who performed very
Speaker 1: very well in the playoffs. You have James White, who's
Speaker 1: usage is only going to increase without Rob Gronkowski. And
Speaker 1: then you have Damien Harris. Where does where does his
Speaker 1: role fit Chris? And is he worked taking a flyer
Speaker 1: on draft day? I'd say he's worth taking a flyer
Speaker 1: late in the draft, but I don't think, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna well, I'm saying a flyer like
Speaker 1: like last like you know, I would draft him the
Speaker 1: last rounds, the last couple of rounds, because I don't
Speaker 1: see touching the bull. Uh if Sony Michelle st is
Speaker 1: healthy the whole year, He's he's the you know, the
Speaker 1: first and second early down back, and then you have
Speaker 1: James White is a pass catch up. I honestly think
Speaker 1: the receiver they got, which will I'm sure we'll get
Speaker 1: into Certa, will be way more valuable this year. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, it kind of stinks because he could be
Speaker 1: someone that is valuable if he got the chance, but
Speaker 1: I don't. I just don't see him getting a chance
Speaker 1: in New England. And there's two really good running backs
Speaker 1: ahead of him the depth chart, and I just don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna see it. Obviously, Patriots half a battled
Speaker 1: injury concerns at the running back position over the past
Speaker 1: several years. Heres certainly it looks like a depth uh
Speaker 1: selection there. How come you don't like Damian Harris Jim
Speaker 1: Well just because of that fact? Once again, you know,
Speaker 1: we're bringing another running back to once again muddy the
Speaker 1: waters in New England so that we don't know who
Speaker 1: to freaking draft come fantasy time. It's simple as that.
Speaker 1: I mean, James White had a fantastic start to the
Speaker 1: season but really came down a lot of the second
Speaker 1: half of the season. Sony Michelle when he was on
Speaker 1: the field was great, but he missed time for injury.
Speaker 1: Definitely been a concern with him, and that's why I
Speaker 1: think they brought in Harrison in case Michelle goes down.
Speaker 1: But don't forget about Rex Burkhead, who they seem to love. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, once again, it just muddies the waters even worse,
Speaker 1: you know, to a situation that we thought at one
Speaker 1: point last year, we thought they finally had under control
Speaker 1: with Michelle and White, and then of course Michelle got
Speaker 1: hurt and everything went out the window. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: say he's one of the better handcuffs. That's like, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna in the draft and fantasy draft. I'd say
Speaker 1: he's one of the better handcuffs you could get. I
Speaker 1: think that's probably a good way to label him right now,
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate because I think he's a really talented player.
Speaker 1: But now, does this speak more to do they worry
Speaker 1: about Sony Michelle's durability or is it just like a
Speaker 1: Patriot's depth pic. Like I think they're worried about Sony
Speaker 1: Michelle's durability. To be honest, this isn't you know, the
Speaker 1: first time thing with him. He's had injury issues, um,
Speaker 1: and he has a hard time staying on the field.
Speaker 1: I think he gives him, you know, depth at that
Speaker 1: position if Michelle goes down, and based on Michelle's history,
Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good bet that way. But
Speaker 1: for fantasy, you're gonna need a Sony Michelle injury for
Speaker 1: him to have any fantasy value. Yeah, I lean closer
Speaker 1: what Jim saying here. Just um, you know they drafted
Speaker 1: Tonny Michelle in the first round last year, Like why
Speaker 1: do you draft running back in the first round last
Speaker 1: year and then you take a running back in the
Speaker 1: third round this year? So it kind of speaks a
Speaker 1: little bit to how they feel about Sonny Michelle, And
Speaker 1: we do have some early Fantasy football ADP data and
Speaker 1: Coroni Michelle is going at the end of the third round.
Speaker 1: So you have to invest pretty highly in him. I mean,
Speaker 1: he he's awesome. You're getting no he is he's when
Speaker 1: he was on the field last year, Like Jim was saying,
Speaker 1: we had that stretch it was like four five, maybe
Speaker 1: six weeks in the middle of the season last year
Speaker 1: where Sony Michelle, he was great in the playoffs. Sony
Speaker 1: Michelle was awesome early downs, did his role, James White
Speaker 1: did his thing called a bunch of passes. He was
Speaker 1: still scoring touchdowns. Two they were both awesome together and
Speaker 1: then towards the end of his thing and gave Devlin
Speaker 1: the touchdown runs. But then Devlin gets involved, and then
Speaker 1: Rex Burr kid gets involved. But Tony Michelle, the last
Speaker 1: thing you remember is him scoring all these touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So do they have more faith in him
Speaker 1: this season? So there's like as usual, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of moving parts with the New England Patriots, because me personally,
Speaker 1: I would have thought after what they saw from him
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they're like, all right, they're getting ready
Speaker 1: to like they're they're handing it all over to Sony Michelle,
Speaker 1: like they're gonna run the offense through him. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be him and James White. And that's the last thing
Speaker 1: that I remember him scoring a ton of touchdowns in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. But then they raft Damien Harrison the third round,
Speaker 1: So it's where do they really like? It doesn't look
Speaker 1: like they used the first round or even the second
Speaker 1: round pick to get a running back. So you know,
Speaker 1: I mean third round pick, not really a lot of
Speaker 1: a huge amount of draft cap by that point, and
Speaker 1: it was a value pick. And I think, you know
Speaker 1: what I think, And it is New England starting to
Speaker 1: go towards this run heavy offense because Brady is getting older.
Speaker 1: And in the playoffs they ran a lot. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I need running back. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I agree with that's why they ran a lot. They
Speaker 1: ran a lot to keep the ball away from the
Speaker 1: teams they were facing the playoffs. That's the thing. They
Speaker 1: can't keep up up like a chef at that time,
Speaker 1: so they want to kill clock correct And remember, though Belichick,
Speaker 1: what he does is very game plan specific. He has
Speaker 1: his overall game plan the way they play, but it
Speaker 1: changes week to week and that's why you have to
Speaker 1: be always prepared when it comes to James White and
Speaker 1: with Sony Michelle, He's called more running backs that I
Speaker 1: want to get to, including what the Eagles did on
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Speaker 1: I hanging out talking some fantasy football with you now
Speaker 1: that the twenty nineteen NFL Draft is completed. I mentioned
Speaker 1: Ning Macks. We were spoke with the Alabama guys Damien
Speaker 1: Harris and Josh Jacobs, two other I guess running backs
Speaker 1: really stood out to me, and they all kind of
Speaker 1: revolve around each other. And that's what the Patriot with
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Chicago Bears did. Remember Earlier this offseason,
Speaker 1: the Bears traded away Jordan Howard to Philadelphia. So Philadelphia
Speaker 1: now has Jordan Howard, Corey Clement, Wendell Smallwood, and the
Speaker 1: new guy. There's somebody else there too that I'm forgetting
Speaker 1: that's not him, Adams, Josh Adams. That's it Adams and
Speaker 1: Josh Adams. They got all those guys there, and Thence
Speaker 1: I believe, traded up in the first round for Um
Speaker 1: for Andre Dillard, and now they wound up getting Miles
Speaker 1: Sanders around later. Miles Sanders is the first back that
Speaker 1: it has been taking even close to this as early
Speaker 1: in the Howie Roseman to Peterson era. It is then
Speaker 1: a fantasy waste land forever at running back for Philly.
Speaker 1: We wanted the trust j H I we wanted to
Speaker 1: trust Josh Adams. Darren Sproles still could be back with Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: but both Philadelphia and Chicago make investments in this draft
Speaker 1: at the running back position as they are looking for
Speaker 1: a back to rely on. Frank I can't imagine that
Speaker 1: Philly would spend a second round pick on a guy
Speaker 1: like Miles Sanders unless they plan to use him in
Speaker 1: a major role. What kind of role could that be?
Speaker 1: And what kind of investment should fantasy players make? So
Speaker 1: you used the term major role, and to me, it's
Speaker 1: what does that mean for the Philadelphia Eagles because a
Speaker 1: major he might play a major football role for this team,
Speaker 1: but is he gonna have a major role for fantasy
Speaker 1: because they traded for Jordan Howard and they still have
Speaker 1: all these other guys. I don't agree that they used
Speaker 1: a high pick on this guy. So the draft pick
Speaker 1: they used the hed agree is here regarding Miles Sanders
Speaker 1: and out of Penn State, he he took over the
Speaker 1: Penn State running back job after sa Kwon Barkley was drafted.
Speaker 1: They clearly like him to use a pick this early
Speaker 1: in the draft on him, But as long as Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson has been the coach of the Eagles. They haven't
Speaker 1: relied on just one guy, no matter who that guy is,
Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews the past couple of years, uh le Garrett Blunt,
Speaker 1: um j J I. Last year, you know, with Josh Adams,
Speaker 1: like the leading rusher on this team had a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty carries. That's pretty much been the case as
Speaker 1: long as Doug Peterson has been the coach of the Eagles.
Speaker 1: So maybe he has a slight role this year, six
Speaker 1: to eight, maybe six to ten touches, like if there's
Speaker 1: injuries involved. Uh, you know, he could catch passes. He
Speaker 1: can do a little bit of everything. But overall, I
Speaker 1: just think the fit with the Eagles, like he probably
Speaker 1: helps them more for real life purpose. He serves his
Speaker 1: purpose on that team more so than he does for
Speaker 1: Annecy football. And that's pretty much how I've always felt
Speaker 1: about Eagles running backs. And I don't really see why
Speaker 1: it would change under Doug Peterson. This is this is
Speaker 1: all he's ever shown his venture, right right. You know
Speaker 1: they do it by committee, uh, and I understand that,
Speaker 1: but I think why they do What I would say
Speaker 1: is that Josh Adams, Corey Clement and when the small
Speaker 1: Adams and I think small Wood are going to be
Speaker 1: like pretty much non existent now with the Sanders draft pick,
Speaker 1: because I think he's going to be the compliment running
Speaker 1: back to Howard. They're gonna use both of them. They're
Speaker 1: gonna split carries or whatever the case may be. Maybe
Speaker 1: Clement gets involved in the passing game a little bit,
Speaker 1: but that's gonna be the role. That's why they drafted Sanders.
Speaker 1: They wanted somebody to compliment Howard because Howard's a one
Speaker 1: dimensional run first up the middle, north to south type
Speaker 1: running back, So they wanted somebody a little bit more
Speaker 1: versatile to compliment them. They want their running backs to
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things for them, and they
Speaker 1: want them also to stay healthy the whole season and
Speaker 1: maybe playing the playoffs. This is real football thinking, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They wanted a depth because they
Speaker 1: probably didn't like what they saw from all the guys
Speaker 1: that that that replaced a Joy and he got hurt
Speaker 1: last year and Smallwood had good games, but we also
Speaker 1: had terrible games. Colem Clement was basically a pass catcher
Speaker 1: and uh what's his name? And Josh Adams did well
Speaker 1: at times, but he also floundered uh later in the
Speaker 1: season as well, so it's like they wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure they get a good running back, maybe ever ring
Speaker 1: back for the future too. Maybe Howard's just a temporary
Speaker 1: solution until Sanders becomes their full time running back. Jim,
Speaker 1: what do you have on Miles Sanders? How do you
Speaker 1: feel about I like Miles Sanders. I think he's a
Speaker 1: damn good back, and you know, I think he's going
Speaker 1: to become a mainstay in Philly. Look, as of right now,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they haven't signed Howard to a new contract,
Speaker 1: so he's a free agent. They don't um both Clement
Speaker 1: and small Wood of both free agents in so again,
Speaker 1: this is Eagles thinking a year ahead, whereas everybody else
Speaker 1: is trying to play catch up. You know, something they've
Speaker 1: always done is they draft ahead of need, as opposed
Speaker 1: to drafting when the need hits. And you know, this
Speaker 1: is a great signing for them, same as with their
Speaker 1: left tackle Andre Dillard that they got. You know that
Speaker 1: Jason Peters is one of the best left tackles in
Speaker 1: the game, so he's not gonna supplant him. But Peters
Speaker 1: is you know what, has he got one year left,
Speaker 1: maybe two, but probably only one. He's injured a lot.
Speaker 1: So again, they're drafting ahead of need and that's what
Speaker 1: they're doing here with Sanders. They're looking at, you know,
Speaker 1: if he can become that go to back, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna try and give him every shot. I do
Speaker 1: think Howard is going to have a role in this
Speaker 1: in on this offense. Should be the early down back
Speaker 1: at least to start this season. Should be the goal
Speaker 1: line back to start the season. But if Sanders can
Speaker 1: get any kind of momentum here, don't be surprised if,
Speaker 1: for the first time since Doug Peterson took over this
Speaker 1: team they have a bell cow back. It seems like
Speaker 1: more of a long term kind of decision that the
Speaker 1: Eagles are making here. You know, the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: they've had their early down grinder there. You know, they're
Speaker 1: their goal line back. You know, it's been Legarrett Blunt,
Speaker 1: it's been Ryan Matthews. And it seems like Jordan Howard's
Speaker 1: basically just gonna be pushed right into that role early downs.
Speaker 1: He'll score touchdowns. He's not gonna catch any ask at all.
Speaker 1: He might you know, if they if they're if they're
Speaker 1: it's gonna be game flow dependent. If there's a game
Speaker 1: where they're winning a lot, you know, maybe he gives
Speaker 1: you fifteen and twenty carries if they're playing from behind,
Speaker 1: maybe we see some more of Miles Sanders some more
Speaker 1: you know, Corey Clement on the field, because I do
Speaker 1: think that Miles Sanders can do a little bit of
Speaker 1: a little bit more of everything obviously than a guy
Speaker 1: like Jordan Howard kN But it just seems like it's
Speaker 1: been so frustrating outside of Belichick the past couple of years.
Speaker 1: The biggest committee approach outside of Belichick has been Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson and the Eagles the past or five. I don't
Speaker 1: blame him though he hasn't had great he has had
Speaker 1: great running backs, they won the Super Bowl, He's been
Speaker 1: successful doing it. Why would he go away from I
Speaker 1: will say this, I do believe Sanders is the best
Speaker 1: back on that team. Yeah. Probably. I don't dispute that.
Speaker 1: I don't dispute that. So he'll be had some really
Speaker 1: talented running backs on the Eagles roster before. So that's
Speaker 1: just you know, I pause a little bit more. It
Speaker 1: sounds like Jim really really likes the talent of of
Speaker 1: of Miles Sanders here, and he's willing to invest a
Speaker 1: little bit. I just think it's more of like a
Speaker 1: a long term answer. Maybe in like keeper dynasty, you're
Speaker 1: a little bit more aggressive on him. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how much he's gonna do this year, Jim in
Speaker 1: redraft unless no, no Dward. I'm not arguing that, but
Speaker 1: I will say this, if he gets off to a
Speaker 1: good start and he gets hot, then I could see
Speaker 1: them going to him. But you're right in the redraft,
Speaker 1: you gotta be a little skeptical just because the other
Speaker 1: guys are on the roster. If they let all three
Speaker 1: of those guys walk next year, Sanders can be walking
Speaker 1: into a great place. Which is why exactly, Yeah, Howard
Speaker 1: Stock also dropsy wants. No one wants Jordans, I know,
Speaker 1: but but like Howard, Jordan Howard last year had like
Speaker 1: twenty less Fantasy points that he had the year before.
Speaker 1: When everybody loves me, you know, it wasn't like he
Speaker 1: had a terrible out year, but you know a lot
Speaker 1: of it that there were a lot of running backs
Speaker 1: that were inconsistent last year. Now, the other side of
Speaker 1: that is Jordan Howard's former team in the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: She spent an early round draft choice on David Montgomery
Speaker 1: and Jemmy manager Ryan Pace said, well, listen, this is
Speaker 1: the first three down running back that we have had here,
Speaker 1: which I was sorry Ryan Pastons say that. The head coach,
Speaker 1: Matteggie said that this is the first three down running
Speaker 1: back that we have had here. Given that three Cohen
Speaker 1: doesn't play three downs, given that Josh Howard does does
Speaker 1: not play three downs. Now does that hurt three Cohen's workload? Maybe?
Speaker 1: Does that increase my injest in David Montgomery? Definitely, Jim,
Speaker 1: I want to start with you. How interested are you?
Speaker 1: And David Montgomery? Montgomery is another one. I like it,
Speaker 1: you know, first round pick in the Dynasty, first pick
Speaker 1: in the Dynasty Draft. Right now, I'm leaning heavily towards him.
Speaker 1: I think he landed in a great situation. Uh, they're
Speaker 1: already talking about three Cohen not getting as many touches
Speaker 1: because they liked this guy to be a three down
Speaker 1: back for them. Um. You know, I was hoping Mike
Speaker 1: Davis might get some of that early work, but with
Speaker 1: him in there, I can't really see that happening. Davis
Speaker 1: is just gonna be, you know, bench guy that you
Speaker 1: know comes in when needed. So I really like him.
Speaker 1: I love where he landed, and I think you know
Speaker 1: he I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends
Speaker 1: up this season and possibly his career as the best
Speaker 1: running back out of his class. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think that this obviously, this makes so much sense for
Speaker 1: the Bars. This is replacing Jordan Howard. Probably a better
Speaker 1: future running back than Jordan Howard. He could do both
Speaker 1: um and but he's a big back. He's the north
Speaker 1: to south runner type guy, but also shifty. You know
Speaker 1: he could, he could, he could do his thing, but
Speaker 1: they I think they still want, like, I don't see
Speaker 1: how you could go away from Tariko. It's still not
Speaker 1: getting a majority of the past catching work because he's
Speaker 1: just so good in that role. He was fantastic last
Speaker 1: year three Cohen and he was basically a past catch.
Speaker 1: He gets some runs and stuff, but he's not He's
Speaker 1: not that type of running. He's not gonna run between tacks.
Speaker 1: Too small. He's just too small. So I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of that. It's gonna be Montgomery
Speaker 1: early down work. I think he's obviously better option Jordan Howard,
Speaker 1: so I would like him better than Jordan Howard, But
Speaker 1: I think he's fits in type of a similar role,
Speaker 1: maybe gets more touches all role. And then you got Cohen.
Speaker 1: He's still gonna do his thing Cohen. I think I
Speaker 1: wouldn't shot away from Cohen at all. I still think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a valuable asset in the offense. Was rank. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Tarikohen is actually a player that people have been
Speaker 1: really aggressive on so far to start year. Like I've
Speaker 1: seen some mock drafts where he goes in like the
Speaker 1: third round or something like. It seems like, you know,
Speaker 1: people are being really aggressive with Tariko And now I
Speaker 1: think that this is gonna put um, this is gonna
Speaker 1: put some cold water on this obviously with h with
Speaker 1: David Montgomery coming in here, you know, his player comp
Speaker 1: that I've heard people talk about is Kareem Hunt. Now,
Speaker 1: does that surprise you that Matt Naggy, former offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs, who was with the team
Speaker 1: when they drafted Kareem Hunt. Does a surprise you at
Speaker 1: all that they draft that their quote first three down
Speaker 1: running back that has a player camp of Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: coming into the league. That does not surprise me at all.
Speaker 1: I mean this guy was a real beast in college. Look,
Speaker 1: I like the kid, and he's a good runner and
Speaker 1: he breaks tackles after but he's not extremely fast. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, I don't think that's a very good cop.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out that's not going to be a
Speaker 1: very good cop. I think they might just mean it, Jim,
Speaker 1: in terms of the way that he can be used
Speaker 1: on all three downs, because that's how Kareem Hunt was using,
Speaker 1: you know, David Montgomery at least looking at his college stats,
Speaker 1: it's in three years at Iowa State, so we know
Speaker 1: that he can catch the ball too. I think that
Speaker 1: they might just mean it in terms of the way
Speaker 1: that Kareem Hunt was used, that he was a three
Speaker 1: down back, and he was you know, he's obviously super
Speaker 1: successful with it with the Kansa City Chiefs before obviously
Speaker 1: everything happened. But um, you know, he David Montgomery could
Speaker 1: do a little bit of everything, play all three downs.
Speaker 1: He can run between the tackles, he's strong, eyeolock can
Speaker 1: use him on goal lines, you can catch the ball
Speaker 1: in the backfield. I'm I'm I'm close to Jim here
Speaker 1: thinking this guy might have the most long term success
Speaker 1: for fantasy. And look at the offense that he plays in.
Speaker 1: I mean Matt Naggie, super creative guy. And look at
Speaker 1: the other weapons that they surround Mitchell Trobiski with on
Speaker 1: this team. You know they already there. He had solid receivers,
Speaker 1: have Allen Robinson, they have Anthony Miller, and they go
Speaker 1: out and draft another really good route run hunter and
Speaker 1: Riley Ridley Calvin Ridley's brother. So hey, this is a
Speaker 1: strong offense long term. I mean, David Montgomery could be
Speaker 1: in a great stop here, a great spot here. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Trekohen just goes away. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, he's not a guy who's built to get
Speaker 1: plus touches per game. No, no, he's not going too
Speaker 1: And I I wouldn't disagree with you guys that maybe
Speaker 1: he does end up in the future as the best
Speaker 1: running back of this class in terms of you know,
Speaker 1: the entire career and stuff like that. But I'm talking
Speaker 1: about this year, particularly in fantasy. I would not shy
Speaker 1: away from Cohen too much because you see a lot
Speaker 1: of teams have schemes where they have their their their bulldozer,
Speaker 1: they're early down back, and then they have their past catcher,
Speaker 1: and I think that's how it's gonna go this year
Speaker 1: for the Bears. You have Montgomery and the early down.
Speaker 1: Cohen's still getting his touches. I still think Cohen's gonna
Speaker 1: catch fifty plus passes. I don't see no way around it.
Speaker 1: He's just that good of a dynamic play. He hits
Speaker 1: home runs. You can't keep a guy like that off
Speaker 1: the fields. That simple. I asked as Duke Johnson, what
Speaker 1: happened to him? Then? That was bad? He should have
Speaker 1: been traded. He'd be's valuable. He's a valuable guy. He's
Speaker 1: like a three Cohen. So I think they continue to
Speaker 1: use Cohen in that same role. We kept mentioning Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt and the Kansas City chiefs Well Spencer, where is
Speaker 1: gone Kareem Hunt? He's gone. Damie Williams. Why I laughed
Speaker 1: at when the time in the extension and laughed at
Speaker 1: Floria when he said he's gonna keep him. He's looking
Speaker 1: pretty right now because if you look the depth Shart
Speaker 1: behind um Damie Williams, you have Carlos Hide, who this
Speaker 1: team signing. You know, Mcarlos Hide guy, but Darryl Williams
Speaker 1: and the only draft choice they spent on a running back.
Speaker 1: Jim was in the sixth round on Darwin Thompson. What
Speaker 1: is there for us to know about Darwin Thompson? Um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't see much in Thompson that I really really
Speaker 1: love here. I mean, I think he just gives them
Speaker 1: a little bit of depth. You know, he's a short
Speaker 1: running back, but he's got good size. But outside of that, man,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know what he really he brings
Speaker 1: to the table, and I wouldn't be surprised if he
Speaker 1: ends up being you know, like on the practice squad
Speaker 1: this year as they try to develop him going forward. UM.
Speaker 1: Don't have a lot of faith in him for fantasy
Speaker 1: at all. I really, you know, I've been on Damian
Speaker 1: Williams since they gave him the first start, and he
Speaker 1: looked like he was off the charts. I think that continues. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any reason to change up what
Speaker 1: he did so well for them last year. But you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, Thompson, you know, he look, let's face it,
Speaker 1: if something happens, then Williams Thompson may move right up
Speaker 1: in there, and of course that gives you fantasy value
Speaker 1: just being on that offense. But man, I just I
Speaker 1: don't know if I love this. It was a lay
Speaker 1: round pick. I mean it was right, the sixth round pick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: right was it? But a lot of the you know
Speaker 1: what we call skill positions fell far in this draft,
Speaker 1: which we you know, look, we we talked about this expected. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of decent players, skill position players at
Speaker 1: running back and odd receiver this year, but there were
Speaker 1: no clear cut standouts. It really came down to where
Speaker 1: they fell. Um. You know, Thompson, if he gets playing time,
Speaker 1: could be worth it in that offense alone. If he doesn't,
Speaker 1: which I expect, um, I don't see him getting a
Speaker 1: ton of work this year at the very least. Frank,
Speaker 1: are there any other running backs that were drafted that
Speaker 1: stand out to you as someone you want to highlight
Speaker 1: before lunch? Of wide receivers? Um? Scrolling down the list here,
Speaker 1: I'll mention Rice Love is an interesting one, with Washington
Speaker 1: also recovering from a c L so both him and
Speaker 1: Darius Guys and I know Darius Guys actually tweeted out
Speaker 1: in emoji after they drafted Bryce Love, so he was
Speaker 1: not clearly excited that the team went out and drafted
Speaker 1: running back. But look again, what we've been talking about
Speaker 1: so far, and you know this is just again as
Speaker 1: talking about fantasy football. Every everything in the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: for the most part, has been a committee of running backs.
Speaker 1: So they have Adrian Peterson, who's their veteran whatever like
Speaker 1: if they need debt, if they you know, he's still
Speaker 1: gonna get a few touches this year. But I think
Speaker 1: they're looking towards the future where they can have a
Speaker 1: dynamic duo between both Darius Guys and Bryce Love. Now,
Speaker 1: both of these guys again are coming off a c
Speaker 1: L injuries, so it's a long term play for them,
Speaker 1: and I think Washington did a great job in this
Speaker 1: draft overall. Um, and I find it interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: just Bryce Love and and Darius guys together could be
Speaker 1: that formidable duo for the future, assuming both of these
Speaker 1: guys come back healthy. But at least for this season, Greg,
Speaker 1: I don't think Bryce Love is gonna bring anything, but
Speaker 1: because you know, Adrian Peterson is still in the mix,
Speaker 1: and we don't even know how healthy Datus guys is
Speaker 1: gonna be for this year. The long term, they could
Speaker 1: have a nice little dynamic duo here between guys and
Speaker 1: Bryce Love. And that's the thing. I don't know how
Speaker 1: affected Bryce Love will be this year and Darius, not
Speaker 1: expecting much, will solidify himself if he can get come
Speaker 1: back healthy warmer dynasty thing for me in Bryce Love
Speaker 1: any other running Max Jim that you want to mention
Speaker 1: before we hit the break and we want to wide receivers.
Speaker 1: What kind of intrigued with the uh? The the Alexander
Speaker 1: Madison pick uh for the Vikings, Um you know playing
Speaker 1: of course behind Dobbin cooked there who you know has
Speaker 1: been injured each the last two seasons. Um, this kid
Speaker 1: could be a big surprise. All right, we'll take a
Speaker 1: break when we come back whole Lot of Water series
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Speaker 1: we hit on the running backs, Chris with any of
Speaker 1: the running backs you wanted to talk about. No, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to say that Bryce Love. I think I
Speaker 1: understand Chris Thompson will be a free agent, so I
Speaker 1: see where they're going. He's twenty eight years old. Maybe
Speaker 1: Love kind of replaces Thompson a little bit, uh with guys,
Speaker 1: and they could be like a dual threat, you know,
Speaker 1: running backs, because Love is a shifty explosive, could hit
Speaker 1: a home run type running back, and guys seems more
Speaker 1: of like that pounder in compliment, guys could take it
Speaker 1: to the house. When if he's the problem, well, I
Speaker 1: think the problem more with guys is the fact that
Speaker 1: he's behind schedule in his rehab. He had what three
Speaker 1: extra surgeries he had to have to get past this,
Speaker 1: and he's still behind. So right now they have serious
Speaker 1: doubts on whether or not he's going to be available
Speaker 1: to start the season. And I think that's why they
Speaker 1: went out and got uh, Bryce Love and you know,
Speaker 1: to complement Adrian Peterson. If they don't have guys. If
Speaker 1: they have guys and he's healthy, then you know, Love
Speaker 1: will be behind both him and Peterson. But I'm thinking
Speaker 1: they're trying to hedge their bets here and there behind
Speaker 1: on guys. That makes sense. I'll throw one more name
Speaker 1: out there. I want to get Jim's thoughts on him
Speaker 1: real quick too. I mean, the Buffalo Bills have two
Speaker 1: aging veteran running backs on their team in Losa McCoy
Speaker 1: and Frank Gore. Nigger out in the draft Devin Singletary.
Speaker 1: He did play at Florida Atlantic, which is Conference USA
Speaker 1: but sixties six rushing touchdowns in his career. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy had massive, massive production while he was in college. Jimmy,
Speaker 1: any interest in Devin Singletary for the future of the Bills,
Speaker 1: considering they have two older running backs in their team
Speaker 1: in Lasa McCoy and Franklore, Oh absolutely. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: he landed in a good position. Um, you know, because
Speaker 1: he's behind these older running backs, and you know there's
Speaker 1: people are out there out there already comparison comparing him
Speaker 1: to to Lashawn McCoy. You know, to me, he almost
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit more of like a Charlie
Speaker 1: Garner in the way he attacks the game. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: he's an undersized guy, but he can play all three downs. Um,
Speaker 1: he's tough, he can you know, play up the middle,
Speaker 1: he can play to the outside. Um, and he can
Speaker 1: catch the ball well. So I think this was a
Speaker 1: great get for them and somebody that could actually come
Speaker 1: into play. Um, maybe not quite this year, but definitely
Speaker 1: you know going forward. I think he's going to become
Speaker 1: a big part. Besides, none of us likes le Shan
Speaker 1: McCoy anymore anyway, ever since he's been out there leaking
Speaker 1: all these damn things about the Avengers movie. Ye, nobody
Speaker 1: likes him anymore. That's that's probably that why people don't
Speaker 1: like him. A few other things in there as well. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: let's get to the wide receivers, and I think the
Speaker 1: most important wide receiver I want to mention here he's
Speaker 1: Kole Hardman for the Kansas City Chiefs. Given Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: expected to be placed on the Commissioner's exemple list page.
Speaker 1: Mahomes needs weapons, and Miko Hardman maybe that weapon. He's
Speaker 1: a burner and he's someone that could late the world
Speaker 1: on fire. Turns kicks, Chris, how excited are you? But Hardman?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't know. I think obviously
Speaker 1: is he This looks like an obvious replace, exact replacement
Speaker 1: for Tyreek Hill. You know what I mean. It looks
Speaker 1: like the exact Well it's the mold, you know, the speed,
Speaker 1: the over the top undersized burner. Yeah, you know that's
Speaker 1: what he is. Um And I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know the first year, I don't know if it's gonna
Speaker 1: play like that. I feel like Watkins is gonna get
Speaker 1: a huge benefit from you only took US forty six
Speaker 1: minutes form and Sammy Watkins. He's gonna have a monster
Speaker 1: year in it's healthy. Hell, he might miss a Game two,
Speaker 1: but he'll be all right, you know. Hell hope the
Speaker 1: Chiefs I would have been one year early drafting Sammy Watkins,
Speaker 1: or well, you can say that every year with good
Speaker 1: McCole Hardman. Interesting guy here ran a four three three forty,
Speaker 1: So obviously they're looking for that that breakaway speed and
Speaker 1: someone to replace Tyreek Hill for you know those those
Speaker 1: down to field threats. Over on NFL dot Com. They
Speaker 1: kind of compared him to to Tyler Lockett, a guy
Speaker 1: who can get behind the defense and it can make
Speaker 1: some of these big plays. He's a little bit undersized
Speaker 1: to be a guy that typically you'd want to be
Speaker 1: a burner down the field. It's only so a little
Speaker 1: bit slight and frame didn't have a massive college production,
Speaker 1: but absolutely a burner, I mean four or three three speed.
Speaker 1: But I do have to agree with venture that I
Speaker 1: think the all around wide receiver that you probably want
Speaker 1: to own more so than anyone else for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: right now is Sammy Watkins. But you would definitely want
Speaker 1: to take a flyer on this guy. Well, maybe higher
Speaker 1: because in the Chief's offense, that's downright. Honestly, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you this guy's once. I'm gonna take a flyer
Speaker 1: on de Marcus Robinson long before I take a flyer
Speaker 1: on Nicole. Oh, you're not on him. Um, Look, Hartman
Speaker 1: maybe that guy, but you know he's not as polished
Speaker 1: as Hill is. You know, people expecting him to just
Speaker 1: jump into Hills role and become that guy I think
Speaker 1: are gonna be sadly disappointed. He's gonna have a few
Speaker 1: good games where he makes a few good plays. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but don't sleep on de Marcus Robinson.
Speaker 1: I think this kid is going to be a steel
Speaker 1: in fantasy drafts this year. And somebody I've been taking
Speaker 1: a lot late in the draft that I think has
Speaker 1: a tremendous upside, especially when Sammy Watkins gets hurt gets
Speaker 1: hurt again. No, he'll actually probably do better, would Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins there to take away coverage. DeMarcus Robinson, former favorite
Speaker 1: of Blake Baley. You always loved him with the Chiefs
Speaker 1: never really emerged. We mentioned the Patriots before and trying
Speaker 1: to replace Grog and trying to replace Josh Gordon potentially
Speaker 1: as well. Did you rather to kill Harry with the
Speaker 1: final pick of the first round of the draft? On Nikkila,
Speaker 1: Harry is going to step right in, Jim, how excited
Speaker 1: or not are you about nikkill Harry? I like to
Speaker 1: kill Harry. Um. But you know the thing that scares
Speaker 1: me the most is the Patriots haven't done a great
Speaker 1: job about drafting wide receivers. This is their first first
Speaker 1: first round receivers and is Terry Glenn that was twenty
Speaker 1: five years ago? Wow? Yeah, So you know obviously they
Speaker 1: want him, and you know it's fine as long as
Speaker 1: Brady's there. Um, what happens when Brady goes and shy
Speaker 1: Stidham steps steps on? I'll tell you exactly what happens.
Speaker 1: And Brady goes and Belichick goes, the whole organization falls
Speaker 1: upup for about five years anything, go right back to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, they need a quarterback. Then Jared Stedham,
Speaker 1: the draft of him, all right, we'll see. I would
Speaker 1: love to see everything come full circle. Greg and once
Speaker 1: Belichick goes Rex Ryan is the matter? Imagine he's been
Speaker 1: almost U I think what's gonna happen with New England?
Speaker 1: Is there going to go back and get Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: as soon as Nick Mullard starts for San Francisco. Out
Speaker 1: here anyway, Nikill Harry, he should be the first wide
Speaker 1: receiver drafted, well technically, in redraft this year, I would say, so,
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure about dynasty because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of interesting wide receivers in this draft. And when you're
Speaker 1: thinking dynasty, you're also thinking long term. So you know,
Speaker 1: really long term, how much does does Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: Belichick have left with the Patriots. So you do have
Speaker 1: to worry about that when it comes to kill Harry.
Speaker 1: But I do think in redraft he could play a
Speaker 1: role this year. But remember what we were just saying
Speaker 1: um in earlier segments, we kind of looked at the
Speaker 1: page treats as a team that's will be a little
Speaker 1: bit more towards running. They still have Julian Edelman. He's
Speaker 1: gonna demand a lot of targets himself. He obviously has
Speaker 1: a great rapport with Brady Um and it's gonna take
Speaker 1: some time. Look, it always takes time for rookies and
Speaker 1: new players for the Patriots to come in and learn
Speaker 1: their system. It's not you know, it's not something that
Speaker 1: these guys pick up right away. So I'm I'm pumping
Speaker 1: the brakes a little bit here, greg On to kill
Speaker 1: Harry his first season in the league. I can't invest
Speaker 1: too much into the into him this first season because
Speaker 1: you also have da Marius Thomas. Um He's not gonna
Speaker 1: be ready to start the year though, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's an older wide receiver who's coming back
Speaker 1: off a torn achilles. I mean that's really tough, and
Speaker 1: I'm not worried. I think him being there is actually
Speaker 1: good for the development of Nikkil Harry because various times
Speaker 1: is a guy that's had success for years now as
Speaker 1: an outside wide receiver, so he can kind of teach
Speaker 1: each Nakkil Harry some of the some of the ins
Speaker 1: and outs, teaching the ropes of the of the NFL
Speaker 1: and what you need to do against certain coverages, so
Speaker 1: on and so forth. But I think it's gonna take
Speaker 1: a little bit of time. I don't know what Harry
Speaker 1: is gonna come in right away and just be a
Speaker 1: SUPERSTI to develop. Yeah, he needs to develop a little bit,
Speaker 1: I think under these guys at a minute, and I
Speaker 1: think Thomas will obviously have some sort of role and
Speaker 1: you know you got you got a lot of weapons
Speaker 1: into you know, the diverse amount of weapons here. Not
Speaker 1: everyone's great, but you know how New England is. They
Speaker 1: spread the ball. I don't think you're gonna see him
Speaker 1: be like a truly valuable, uh fantasy asset right out
Speaker 1: the gate. I would say that I would rather have
Speaker 1: Deebos Samuel instead because I think that is a guy
Speaker 1: that will have a role right at the gate. Because
Speaker 1: San Francisco that's probably needs wide receivers, and this is
Speaker 1: the guy. This is the number two our receiver in
Speaker 1: San Francisco right off the jump. Who's number one? Uh?
Speaker 1: What's the name? My boy? Marcus Goodwin Man Deebo saying no, no,
Speaker 1: what a last year's rookie. Come on? Now Pettis was
Speaker 1: on and I love Dante Pettis, But now this month
Speaker 1: is the water big time when it comes to the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty niners, because I think this is gonna
Speaker 1: be one of those situations where everyone's gonna kind of
Speaker 1: take away from each other. I think George Kittle is
Speaker 1: gonna get his numbers, but after that you have a
Speaker 1: whole conglomerate of different wide receivers. I mean Deebo Samuel,
Speaker 1: as cool as his name is, I do have some
Speaker 1: concerns about the opportunity here because they still have Marky's
Speaker 1: good when they just drafted Dante Pettis in i believe,
Speaker 1: the second round last year. They also drafted Jalen Hurd
Speaker 1: this year, who is kind of Swiss army knife. You know,
Speaker 1: he played some running back in college, he played some
Speaker 1: wide receiver, so he offers them a different look. There's
Speaker 1: a bunch of different weapons. I think overall we're looking
Speaker 1: at here. Is the biggest winner for the forty Niners
Speaker 1: is Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy Garoppolo because Garoppolo has all
Speaker 1: these weapons now to throw too. But I could see
Speaker 1: it being all right most of the time. It seems
Speaker 1: gonna be George Kittle, But one game it'll be Dante Pettis,
Speaker 1: one game it'll be Deebo Samuel, one game it'll be
Speaker 1: Jalen Heard. They're gonna, you know, they're gonna try and
Speaker 1: get as much out of these different weapons as they
Speaker 1: possibly can. And I trust Kyle Shanahan to do that wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: But I think that we're gonna lack some consistency here
Speaker 1: when it comes to the wide receivers tight end, George
Speaker 1: kit is still gonna be really consistent. But I do
Speaker 1: have some concerns now. And it sucks because I really
Speaker 1: really love Dante Pettis Sorgie in the last year, right,
Speaker 1: you know that, and I was excited about him coming
Speaker 1: into this year. But guy, he's the slot I think
Speaker 1: this this kind of it's a little bit just gonna
Speaker 1: disagree totally with what you're about to say or didn't say. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think bringing him in effects uh what's his
Speaker 1: name at all. I think he's already made his his
Speaker 1: spot on this team, and I think he's gonna have,
Speaker 1: you know, his mix pretty well down from last year.
Speaker 1: He played too well for them not to be a
Speaker 1: big part of this outfit. Yeah, Pettis. I don't think
Speaker 1: you know, bringing in Samuels has a big effect on
Speaker 1: on Pettis at all. I think Pettis is pretty much
Speaker 1: locked in. Uh, if not the number one wide receiver,
Speaker 1: then definitely in the number two. Well, he's the slot guy.
Speaker 1: He's going to be the slot guy. Shanahan offense, he'll
Speaker 1: get his Yeah, no, he'll get his. Actually quite Frankly,
Speaker 1: Goodwin is kind of one dimensional in the sense that
Speaker 1: he's a little small framed and on their side, he's
Speaker 1: just over the top guy. Really, he was getting better
Speaker 1: with San Francisco, then he got injured and then you
Speaker 1: know at times when Garoppolo was out, he didn't really
Speaker 1: get the chance to really prove himself again. So I
Speaker 1: think that this guy, Deebo could end up winning a
Speaker 1: job as like a more reliable receiver on the outside
Speaker 1: that could get you the first down, that could get
Speaker 1: you the ten to fifteen yard pass, catch the ball,
Speaker 1: take the hit, and you know, be that reliable receiver.
Speaker 1: I think Debo is gonna be involved a lot this
Speaker 1: first year because these two receivers, Pettison and Goodwin both
Speaker 1: have their flaws. They're not complete receivers. You need a
Speaker 1: complete receiver, a number one guy. He might be the
Speaker 1: future number one guy there. I think everyone, I think
Speaker 1: everyone fits their role. Well, you have Marky's good when
Speaker 1: he's the burner, he could take a top off the defense.
Speaker 1: You have Dante Pettis, who was a slot receiver and
Speaker 1: that he can be a legitimate slot receiver in the NFL. Remember,
Speaker 1: I mean the final month of the season, Pettis dominated.
Speaker 1: He really was. He you know, he wasn't going up
Speaker 1: against he was doing it against the Seahawks, you know,
Speaker 1: a pretty solid defense. So you know, Dante Pettis showed
Speaker 1: that he could perform. And then you know they're probably
Speaker 1: gonna have Deebo Samuel on the outside too. And again
Speaker 1: they draft Jalen Heard, who's their Swiss army knife. They'll
Speaker 1: probably do some creative things and them kind of reminds
Speaker 1: me a little bit of maybe the way that the
Speaker 1: Panthers used like a Curtis Samuel, give him a few carries,
Speaker 1: give him a targets game, something like that. But overall, Jim,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you can. I don't think that
Speaker 1: you could downplay the fact that they drafted Deebo Samuel
Speaker 1: as high as they did. For a reason. They drafted
Speaker 1: him in the second round. I think they're gonna use him,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna use George Kittles. So as much as
Speaker 1: I love Dante Pettis and I think he's a talented guy,
Speaker 1: I think it kind of I think it puts a
Speaker 1: little bit of a damper here on overall his target
Speaker 1: share and what his opportunity was gonna be because they
Speaker 1: drafted these wide receivers. But I think what you're gonna
Speaker 1: see is Pettis is still gonna have pretty good production
Speaker 1: because he is the slot guy. So the middle is
Speaker 1: gonna open up more because now you got Debo, you
Speaker 1: got going in the outside. They open up the field,
Speaker 1: both of them. Maybe Goodwin is the guy that we
Speaker 1: running backs on the roster. We didn't even talk about that,
Speaker 1: all right, the running backs, and you know everyone's excited
Speaker 1: about Jerk McKinnon coming back to They have three running
Speaker 1: backs on the which is great for them. But I'm
Speaker 1: saying Goodwin might be the guy that actually is the
Speaker 1: guy that's like complete hit or miss some games, he
Speaker 1: might have one or two catches because Debo is getting open,
Speaker 1: because Pettis is getting open, and they're the guys they
Speaker 1: hit up more, Goodwin is gonna be very hit or miss. Ye. No,
Speaker 1: I like this guy. I think he's and I also
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna say he's the best receiver in the class.
Speaker 1: Talk about my top wide receiver. We will, But I'm
Speaker 1: saying the reason why I think he's the most fantasy
Speaker 1: valuable this year out of these running backs because he
Speaker 1: landed in good spot. Let's be honest. The whole theme
Speaker 1: today is landing in a good spot, and he landed
Speaker 1: in a pretty good spot where they need receivers. How
Speaker 1: about a guy who landed in a better spot. Paris
Speaker 1: Campbell Indianapolis. I like, Look, he's not the most prolific
Speaker 1: route runner at this point, but they can teach him
Speaker 1: the route. But everything else he does well. He can
Speaker 1: get down the field, he gives Luck somebody that can
Speaker 1: go over the top two keep Hilton running, you know,
Speaker 1: short the intermediate routes. He gives him that deep pass
Speaker 1: play that Luck hasn't really had the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I like Paris Campbell a lot, and I wouldn't hate
Speaker 1: it if you drafted him as your first wide receiver
Speaker 1: off this board in dynasty drafts or redrafted lists. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not a bad one. That's not that's not a
Speaker 1: bad one. That was what I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: about the other two. Quickly of a minute to go,
Speaker 1: he came Metcalf with Seattle and A J. Brown with Tennessee. Jim,
Speaker 1: I look, I like Metcalf in Seattle, especially if we
Speaker 1: hear Baldwin does actually retired like they were saying it
Speaker 1: looks like but it hasn't happened yet. Um, if he's
Speaker 1: really that hurt and can't continue, then Metcalf should get
Speaker 1: a big role. I'm just not a huge Metcalf fan.
Speaker 1: But with you know, Russell Wilson throwing in the ball
Speaker 1: and how accurate and consistently is you gotta like that
Speaker 1: a little more. I like that coming in. I love
Speaker 1: a J. Brownson, full all around wide receiver. Unfortunately lands
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. Um, you know this could be Mario his
Speaker 1: last chance in Tennessee, so he may have a new
Speaker 1: quarterback next year. I love a J. Brown coming into
Speaker 1: this draft. He was my number one wide receiver. I
Speaker 1: just don't love the landing stop. Same thing with Marcis Brown.
Speaker 1: But Tennessee landed in a bad place. Tennessee needs a
Speaker 1: slot receiver and a J. Brown is sort of a slot.
Speaker 1: He could do it all, but he plays slot and
Speaker 1: they kind of needed that because you know, Delaney missed
Speaker 1: the whole season basically, and then you have you know,
Speaker 1: just what you're outside guy Corey? Uh, what's Davis? So
Speaker 1: I think he could have some production this year. I
Speaker 1: think he could have some value, A physical freak remember
Speaker 1: the name a Keem Butler, the Arizona Carlos. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of amounts to feed there. I'm pretty excited about him.
Speaker 1: A lot more football conversations to have, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: have him, of course throughout the summer. Here on F
Speaker 1: and T S Y for Chris, Jim and Frank, and
Speaker 1: right downstairs, I'm Greg. The Great Afternoon. We'll see tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we hope.