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Speaker 1: These One Bills Live presented by Called Light of Health.

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Speaker 1: How's everybody doing out there? Chris Brown along with Manny

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Speaker 1: glab here on a Thursday One Bills Live is the show?

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Speaker 1: Steve a little under the weather. Some of you might

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Speaker 1: have been able to pick it up on yesterday's show.

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Speaker 1: He was fighting something and apparently he's losing that battle

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Speaker 1: at least today as he is fighting a bad head cold,

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Speaker 1: posting aisal dripping the like. Not all too different from

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Speaker 1: what you were dealing with, Manny though recently. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: but you're on that, you're pretty much good to go.

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Speaker 1: Now to go. Steve is not so. Maddie is stepping

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Speaker 1: in for him, and we thank her for doing that

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Speaker 1: as we inched closer. We are now two weeks away

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Speaker 1: from the NFL Draft, and I was telling Steve yesterday Maddie.

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Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, let's just get there already,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm done. Yeah, we've talked, oh my gosh, like

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Speaker 1: pouring over players and prospects and possibilities and all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Let's just get to the show already. Um, But we

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Speaker 1: got two weeks away, so we'll be sitting here talking

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Speaker 1: about it even more with you and you know, it's

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Speaker 1: fun to talk about. Although I will say, Maddie, some

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Speaker 1: of these mock drafts have gone off the deep end

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Speaker 1: and they're easy. You're kind of ticking me off a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I'm just just gonna be honest. Um. And

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Speaker 1: our good friend of the show, Charles Davis, recently did

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Speaker 1: his mock and I don't know if any Bills fan

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Speaker 1: would be happy with his choice for Buffalo at twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: He goes with Alabama dB Brian Branch for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: which you know, based on the times you've come in

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Speaker 1: to tell us about the mock draft watches, he was

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Speaker 1: very popular in the early going. And now here comes

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Speaker 1: Charles Davis in the eleventh hour, two weeks before the draft,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm back on the Branch train. Before

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer, before Taylor Rapp was signed to the Bills,

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Speaker 1: Brian Branch was a popular name with Antonio Johnson as

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Speaker 1: safeties that could come on and fill that role if

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer was not going to be on the team,

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Speaker 1: or if they didn't replace Jordan Poyer with presumably another

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Speaker 1: starting safety, which remember back to free agency, the safety

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of great safeties that were available

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Speaker 1: in free agency. A lot of teams filled those needs

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Speaker 1: with those safeties that were on the mark it. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Poyer comes back to Buffalo, the Bills signed Taylor Rap

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Speaker 1: Do you still need depth there at that position? Charles

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Speaker 1: Davis has Brian Branch heading to the Bills at number

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, which I have spoken to draft analysts and

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Speaker 1: I'm working on a feature story about the top three

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Speaker 1: positions that the Bill should go after at the end

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Speaker 1: of round one at number twenty seven, And I've been

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Speaker 1: hearing corner, defensive back come up in that conversation, just

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Speaker 1: because of the injuries that this team had last season,

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Speaker 1: defense where you have five dbs on the field, where

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Speaker 1: maybe you just need more depth there. All right, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to crawl into the head of a draft an

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Speaker 1: that you've been talking to. They look at the Bills,

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Speaker 1: they see all those injuries from last year. They see

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Speaker 1: Poyer and Hide as a combination. Maybe a lot closer

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Speaker 1: And I think they all so look at the safety class,

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Speaker 1: it early. And I don't think that's the case. Do

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Speaker 1: the Bills need a little bit more depth at the

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Speaker 1: a safety would make complete sense. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's what Brandon Bean is thinking. We've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: these prospects were still on the board when he chose

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Speaker 1: I mean, doing those mock drafts is not easy. You know.

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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this, Maddie. ESPN dot Com

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Speaker 1: executives and scouts that they spoke to gave a slight

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Speaker 1: but it was far from unanimous. They called Bryce Young

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Speaker 1: possible about what the player is going to be, what

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Speaker 1: the person is, and how that's going to translate into

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Speaker 1: them as a professional athlete. They're going to market down,

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Speaker 1: write it down, document it, etc. And it never stops

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Speaker 1: until they get the draft night, and even on draft

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Speaker 1: night where Draft day it happens. Remember all that terrible

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Speaker 1: stuff that came out on Twitter about Josh the day

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Speaker 1: of the draft, and Brandon had to call You had

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Speaker 1: to call Joss and say, hey, what's going on with this? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, vet it out again and that's it's like

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Speaker 1: five hours before they're picking. You know, It's just it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It never ever ever stops. We've got an interesting question

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Speaker 1: for you today as our Twitter topic, Maddie and I

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Speaker 1: are asking you, when it comes to the draft, what

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Speaker 1: is your most important trait or characteristic that you think

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Speaker 1: the Bill should look for in drafting players. Now, we

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Speaker 1: know this sometimes may vary by position, but on the whole,

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Speaker 1: what's your most important trait or characteristic that you think

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Speaker 1: the Bill should look for in drafting players? Eight oh

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Speaker 1: three one eight eight fifty two five fifty The numbers

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Speaker 1: to get on board. Open line for you there on

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Speaker 1: the phone lines, or you can hit us up on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. Do you, I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you have something that sticks out to you? You know, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: they gotta be this. I mean, I think we're already

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Speaker 1: assuming out of the gate, Mattie, that they have the

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Speaker 1: requisite skill set athletically to be drafted and be a

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Speaker 1: professional athlete. So putting that stuff, you know, aside, where

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Speaker 1: do we go from there? I guess is kind of

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Speaker 1: how I'm looking at this. So I was listening to

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Speaker 1: a podcast on the way to work today and it

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Speaker 1: was Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks, and they were breaking

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Speaker 1: this exact thing down. They were going through the characteristics

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Speaker 1: and they were breaking it down by position and the

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Speaker 1: character traits that you want to out of a guy

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Speaker 1: at eas at each position group that would make him

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Speaker 1: more desirable to draft at whatever position a team was

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Speaker 1: drafting at. And one thing that Josh has is the

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Speaker 1: heart is that I care about this more than anybody else.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's something that sticks out to me

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Speaker 1: from a quarterback perspective, from any other position group too,

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Speaker 1: because you get guys who walk in here. You get

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Speaker 1: prospects who teams talk to, and you come across guys

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Speaker 1: sometimes who have just been handed everything on a silver

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Speaker 1: platter because they were the best in high school and

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Speaker 1: then they got the red carpet rolled out for them

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Speaker 1: during the recruiting process, which I have seen firsthand and

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Speaker 1: have been a part of firsthand when I worked at Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Was watching these guys come in for their recruiting visits

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Speaker 1: and it was like the President of the United States

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Speaker 1: is walking in here with the way that some of

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Speaker 1: these guys are treated. And the egos get so big

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Speaker 1: sometimes and you continue to be really good in college

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Speaker 1: because you were amazing in high school football. But then

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Speaker 1: you get into the NFL and maybe the effort hasn't

484
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Speaker 1: been there your entire career because you've just been good.

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Speaker 1: You've been gifted with these athletic traits that have gotten

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Speaker 1: you this far. But when it comes time to watch film,

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Speaker 1: when you get home from the workday, to stay on

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Speaker 1: the field twenty minutes longer after practice has ended, to

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Speaker 1: get into the training room an hour before, to get

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Speaker 1: the rehab done, to put the right stuff in your body.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody can do that, and I think that's the

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Speaker 1: most important thing to me that a prospect can give

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Speaker 1: to their future NFL team. Is the heart, is the care,

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Speaker 1: is the give a crap factor? Yes? And I would

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Speaker 1: say yeah. And I mean, when you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: makeup of an individual, I think it's very important that

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Speaker 1: they are self motivated. Now a lot in a lot

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Speaker 1: of cases, it's hard to even get to this level

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Speaker 1: unless yourself motivated. But there are some athletes, as you said,

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Speaker 1: that are so gifted they're going to get here anyway,

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Speaker 1: whether they're self motivated or not, because they're so athletically

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Speaker 1: gifted that everything has come easy to them. And then

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Speaker 1: they get to the NFL and it's like, whoa, I

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Speaker 1: gotta work now, what do you mean, I gotta work

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Speaker 1: hard at this well, because everybody else on the field

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Speaker 1: with you is just as good an athlete as you are,

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Speaker 1: and if you want to hit your ceiling, you got

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Speaker 1: to put the time in. And that doesn't always happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about a player like Jadeveon Clowney,

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Speaker 1: for example. The guy was ridiculously gifted, ridiculous like stupid gifts,

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Speaker 1: and it had always come easy for him. He's the

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Speaker 1: first pick in the draft. He gets to the NFL

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Speaker 1: and he's a good player, he's productive, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think he ever came close to reaching his full potential

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Speaker 1: because he had gifts that could have made him one

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Speaker 1: of the best pass rushers in the history of football,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody would tell you he even

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Speaker 1: is in the top twenty at that position in the

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Speaker 1: history of the game. He have been, but he's not.

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Speaker 1: And now where is he. He's still playing, but he's

521
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: signing one year contracts. He's played for four teams. Why

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Speaker 1: because that dedication to improvement just is not there. He

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00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: would just rather rest on the athletic gifts he was

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Speaker 1: born with, and it's good enough to stay in the league.

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Speaker 1: It's good enough to get paid. That's good enough for me.

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Speaker 1: That's not the kind of players that people are looking for.

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Speaker 1: But they'll still draft players like that because the gifts

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Speaker 1: are so good you and I think the Bills, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to say they would completely ignore players like that,

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Speaker 1: but I think if you ask them, they would prefer

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Speaker 1: to have the guy who's internally motivated, willing to become great,

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Speaker 1: and is willing to work at it every single day

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Speaker 1: to incrementally improve himself day after day after day. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to the phone calls. We are up against the clock.

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00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but Cal and

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Speaker 1: Grand Island, Kevin and Hamburg, you guys are going to

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Speaker 1: be leading us off when we come back your phone

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Speaker 1: calls next. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collot

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Speaker 1: of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Chris Brown Matting glad with you here

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Speaker 1: on this Thursday, and we're going to go right to

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Speaker 1: the phones as we are asking you today, what is

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Speaker 1: your most important trait or characteristic the Bill should look

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Speaker 1: for in drafting players and leading us off today? Cal

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00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: in Grand Island, what do you have for us? Call?

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00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: You're on One Bill's Live. Oh hey, how are you

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00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: doing today? Guys? I love the show as always. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: What I got is like most important, like you said

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Speaker 1: before about all the god given ability athletically, but for me,

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00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: it's the constant drive just to never stop learning, never

551
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: wanting to ever stop improving, never being content and you know,

552
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: being being satisfied with where you're at. It's been my

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Speaker 1: opinion over the years I've been a sports fans for

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Speaker 1: thirty forty years that the best guys in the world, man,

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Speaker 1: they're never happy with where they're red. They're always constantly improving,

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00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: always trying to get better. And that's just what I think,

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Speaker 1: And that's my opinion. Yeah, And I think your opinion

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00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: is very much in line with what we hear from

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Speaker 1: Coach McDermott, who is always preaching about self improvement, getting

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00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: even the slightest bit better the next day and the

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Speaker 1: next day and the next day. And I mean, knowing

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Speaker 1: Coach McDermott like we do, we know he's a grinder.

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Speaker 1: He loves the grind, he embraces the grind, and I

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Speaker 1: think he wants players that reflect that image as well.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want guys that think they have it all

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Speaker 1: figured out, or think they're good enough or better than

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Speaker 1: anybody already and can't get any better. He wants guys

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Speaker 1: that are always striving, striving, and I think that's the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of the roster right now. I think it's

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Speaker 1: about being humble, too, humble enough to know that you

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00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: need to improve, humble enough to know that you're not

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Speaker 1: the best out there, that there's always a way to

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Speaker 1: get one percent better that day. Which we hear Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott say, and do a year one to eleven. Do

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Speaker 1: your job. It's not about me, It's about the entire team.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of a lot of the

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Speaker 1: guys on the roster fit that build right now. And

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: that's why self being, you know, self motivated is important too,

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00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: because that impetus to get better is coming from within.

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00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: It's not any coach screaming at you on the practice field.

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00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: Because coaches are with players the least amount of time

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Speaker 1: then maybe they ever were in NFL history, with all

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00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, the new CBA rules, and this is when

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Speaker 1: you can practice, this is for how long you can't

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Speaker 1: do anything. At this time of the year, coaches are

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Speaker 1: around players less than ever. So the importance of getting

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Speaker 1: self motivated players that want to be great and have

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Speaker 1: a burning desire to be great might be more important

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Speaker 1: now than ever has. Let's go back to the phones

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Speaker 1: and to Kevin in Hamburg. Next. We got first Kevin, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing? Thanks for taking my call. I

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: want to carry on with the last guy, Cal said.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that totally, but I want to go

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Speaker 1: a step further and say about homework, how well he

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Speaker 1: does this football homework like that Andy and RICHARDSONID what

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Speaker 1: don't you told me he said about wanting to learn

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Speaker 1: on game field, that would impress me that this guy

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Speaker 1: wants to learn even though he's struggling, unlike Hail Murray,

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Speaker 1: the guy that burned the build on the Hail Murray.

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Speaker 1: He's like a football or a homework grinch you want

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Speaker 1: to use a he that's why he's been criticized by

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Speaker 1: his teammates. He's like he don't want to. He wants

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00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: to learn so much, but he don't want to like that,

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00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: and that impresses me because if you get burned on

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Speaker 1: a big play like as a safety, and then two

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Speaker 1: weeks later you getta pick six, like, well, I learned

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00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: a game film that's why I gotta pick six and

608
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: didn't get smoked like I did the last time. How well,

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Speaker 1: So it's really like to carry on what Cal said,

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Speaker 1: but especially in the homework field. Yeah, I get what

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Speaker 1: you're saying, Kevin, and I mean, Maddie, I don't know

612
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: about you, but like I think some people have portrayed

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00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray as a little bit of a me guy.

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00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: Even some of his teammates have hinted at that, and

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00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: that's not what you want either, because I don't know

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Speaker 1: that there is another sport where you're relying on ten

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00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: other teammates as much as you are in football. So

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Speaker 1: you have a guy that is very individualistic and all

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Speaker 1: about himself. While I think there's varying degrees of it,

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Speaker 1: you don't want a lot of that in your locker

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Speaker 1: room on a football team. I think it's tough too

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Speaker 1: if you're a teammate of Kyler Murray or of somebody

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Speaker 1: who you don't think it's putting in the effort that

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: they need to be putting in and do yourself, are

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00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: doing everything you can to go above and beyond and

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00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: put the work in and put the extra hours in it.

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00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: It's tough to watch somebody sitting next to you who

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00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: maybe be getting paid a lot more and is not

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: doing that, And that could be a reason why you're lacking,

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00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: Why you're coming up shortened games? Why? Why? Something you

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00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: should have seen on film if you were paying attention

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00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: or doing the extra work, and you would have known

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00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: how to react in a certain situation. But you didn't

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00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: react the right way because you didn't watch the film.

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00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: You didn't put that time on task in so I

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00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: think it's in a team sport like football, it's tough

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00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: if everybody is not rowing in the same direction with

638
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: the same amount of strength every single day, and there's

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00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: there's up days for guys and there's down days for guys.

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00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: And that's when you know your your teammate next to

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00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: you picks you up a little bit more because life

642
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: is tough for everybody, But generally speaking, you want that

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Speaker 1: more than you are. And that's where having a majority

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Speaker 1: of players in your locker room who are a team

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Speaker 1: guys helps because as they recognize when a guy is

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Speaker 1: having a rough day and he's kind of moping around

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Speaker 1: jack the guy up so he comes out and has

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Speaker 1: a good practice, maybe when he's not feeling it on

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Speaker 1: week seventeen. That makes a difference. But I think Kevin

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Speaker 1: what he was getting at is important too, because it

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Speaker 1: can be great to have all of that motivation and

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Speaker 1: willingness to get better, but you also have to have

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Speaker 1: a certain amount of mental processing skills to recognize what

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Speaker 1: you're watching on film in terms of study, like are

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Speaker 1: you looking for the right things? And then once you

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Speaker 1: find those things, do you know how to take notes

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Speaker 1: on those things and then retain it so you know

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Speaker 1: how to execute it in the snap of a finger

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00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: when you see it on the field. We hear all

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Speaker 1: the time how some prospects are physical learners. They can't

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Speaker 1: learn it unless they physically rep it on the field.

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Speaker 1: And then there are other players who are visual learners.

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Speaker 1: You put it on the board for them, got a coach,

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Speaker 1: and now you put them on the field and they

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Speaker 1: do it without a second thought. So there are very

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Speaker 1: you know, there's different things that are baked into wanting

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Speaker 1: to learn. It's how good your mental processing, how much

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Speaker 1: can you retain it? How do you take it in?

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Speaker 1: You know, do you take it in by executing it

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Speaker 1: physically or do you can you just stick it in

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Speaker 1: your brain after you see it and you're good to go.

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Speaker 1: And everybody's different, and not one's not any better than another,

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Speaker 1: but they're different, and you have to teach those guys

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Speaker 1: differently as coaches, Yeah, I was going to say, and

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Speaker 1: also being in an environment where they can foster that

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Speaker 1: depending on the type of player that you're dealing with,

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Speaker 1: whether it's somebody who learns by actually doing it or

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Speaker 1: somebody who learns by having it taught to you. Being

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Speaker 1: in an environment, having the coaches that are going to

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Speaker 1: go out of the way to figure what type of

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Speaker 1: learning style each player has and make sure that they

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Speaker 1: are learning to the best of their ability. Because there's

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Speaker 1: there's drafting and then there's developing a guy. Are you

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Speaker 1: going to a team that can truly develop you? And

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Speaker 1: I've I've seen it in college football where sometimes that

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Speaker 1: just is not there with the staff. You can bring

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Speaker 1: guys on, but can they take it to the next

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Speaker 1: level under your guidance? Right, player development comes in big

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Speaker 1: and I would say that if you ask me what

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Speaker 1: is the one of the two greatest strengths that the

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Speaker 1: Bills coaching staff has had under coach McDermott, it is

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Speaker 1: player development. Players get here and they get better. Now.

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Speaker 1: Part of that is because of that self motivation that

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about, but the other part is

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Speaker 1: coaches recognizing maybe I got to coach this guy a

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Speaker 1: little bit differently than this guy if I'm going to

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Speaker 1: get the most out of him and help him be

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Speaker 1: the best player he can be, where I might take

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Speaker 1: a different approach with this dude over here because he

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Speaker 1: doesn't like some of the things I do when I'm

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Speaker 1: coaching that guy. And that's something that falls on the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff to adapt to to remain effect give Ben

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Speaker 1: making everybody better, not just maybe the top two players

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Speaker 1: on your depth chart at your position. So it's all

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Speaker 1: baked in together. That's why these NFL teams, they're just

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Speaker 1: such gigantic operations. Roster size, coaching staff size, all the

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Speaker 1: little intricacies of the game, the scripted nature that gets crazy.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know how you put it all together.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes let's go to the tweet sheet, though, What is

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Speaker 1: your most important trade or characteristic the Bill should look

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Speaker 1: for in drafting players. Tweet sheet brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. And Jack leads us off and says first speed,

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Speaker 1: second speed, third speed, then instincts, and finally more speed.

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Speaker 1: I think I can figure out what Jack likes and players.

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Speaker 1: We need guys who can leave defenders in their dust,

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Speaker 1: and seedy defenders that can destroy quarterbacks or ball carriers

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Speaker 1: and run with Hill and Chase, etc. Finally, if it

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Speaker 1: is defense, I want a linebacker who can run and

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Speaker 1: has better instincts than Edmonds has. Okay, a lot there.

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Speaker 1: Speed is important. I mean, I think we all know

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Speaker 1: that this is a sport that's bigger, faster, stronger usually

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Speaker 1: is better. I just remember talking to Lee Evans right

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Speaker 1: after he got drafted and as a first round pick

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Speaker 1: here in two thousand and four, and I was talking

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Speaker 1: to him about how he recaptured his speed after a

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Speaker 1: major knee injury from junior year to senior year and

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Speaker 1: he ran like a four to four one at the

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Speaker 1: combine and he said, well, I was glad I could

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Speaker 1: get back to that. He goes, But that's not the

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Speaker 1: key to being a good receiver, he said. The key

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Speaker 1: to being a good receiver is running routes. He goes.

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Speaker 1: It's great if you're fast, but it's better if you

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Speaker 1: can run routes effectively every single time. And I was

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Speaker 1: thinking to myself, I was like, that's a pretty wise

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Speaker 1: statement from a twenty two year old, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Like I was very taken by that. So Jack,

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Speaker 1: I respect speed as much as the next guy. And

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Speaker 1: after watching Tyreek Hill the last five years, I think

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Speaker 1: we all understand that speed can truly kill. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's the only thing though, that I would

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Speaker 1: chalk it up to. We have heard our coaching staff

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Speaker 1: say quite a bit in the last couple of years

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Speaker 1: in regards to the type of player that they would

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Speaker 1: want a draft. Speed comes up a lot from Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean of a characteristic or a trait that they're looking

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Speaker 1: at that they want that they admire based on what's

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Speaker 1: already in the NFL. What's already on this Bills team

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Speaker 1: is speed can separate you from other people, and how

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Speaker 1: do we stop our opponents? On top of that? And

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Speaker 1: I will say this kier Elam. I'm watching the game

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Speaker 1: last year against the Dolphins in the playoffs and Tyreek

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Speaker 1: Hill runs an eighteen yard dig route and Elam was

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Speaker 1: stepped for step with him on every single step of

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Speaker 1: that route. And my mouth fell open because that's the

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Speaker 1: first time I've seen a Bills defender do that against

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Speaker 1: him in a man to man cover situation and ever,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, we might have something here.

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Speaker 1: And that's where elite physical traits come into play, like speed.

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Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. Tom On the

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Speaker 1: West side. We'll lead us off with the phone calls

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Speaker 1: next when we return here on One Bills Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kellia Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. What is your

767
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Speaker 1: most important trait or characteristic the Bill should look for

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Speaker 1: in drafting players? Right back to the phones we go

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Speaker 1: and to Tom on the west side. What do you got? Tom? Hey? Brownie?

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Speaker 1: And Maddie, Hey, Maddie? Can I call you mad Bear? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Mad Bear? Because the Bears aren't very good. I don't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of faith on them. Yeah, things might

773
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: be changing there with Ryan Poles the new GM. We'll see. Well. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's the IQ test because it's my

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Speaker 1: understanding now that it's not just the quarterbacks that take it,

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Speaker 1: it's all of them. And could you spand I want

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Speaker 1: the IQ test the voves because to me, it's the

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Speaker 1: understanding of the game and how they comprehend things and

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Speaker 1: the way they see things on the field. They're not

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Speaker 1: looking for Einstein, you know what I mean? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: get what you're saying, Tom, And thanks for the call.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a good setup for what we'll be talking

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Speaker 1: about in the second hour of the show. I think

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Speaker 1: Tom's referring to the old Wonderlick test, which they do

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Speaker 1: still use along with a bunch of personality test evaluations

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Speaker 1: that different teams use while they have players at the combine,

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Speaker 1: and it does measure, you know, general intelligence. It also

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Speaker 1: measures processing skills and things like that, being able to

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Speaker 1: come up with solutions in a short amount of time,

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But now, what we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about in the second hour of the show with

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Speaker 1: Brandon is the test that he and one of his

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Speaker 1: fellow neurophysicists designed that the NFL uses now and it's

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Speaker 1: a cognition test, and we'll get into the nuts and

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Speaker 1: bolts of it in the second hour, but it goes

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Speaker 1: far in far greater depth in terms of the specific

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Speaker 1: things that players need to be successful on the field,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into it in the next hour, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's pretty involved and pretty accurate in lining up

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Speaker 1: with the skills that players need to have. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: test a bunch of different things and that spits out

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Speaker 1: your S two total score. So it'll be fun to

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Speaker 1: talk to you, um, Brandon about how they came up

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Speaker 1: with that, and just I think it's fascinating seeing a

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Speaker 1: need like that and being able to create something, and

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Speaker 1: creating is the compressive thing. Yeah, like it's one thing

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Speaker 1: to be Like you know what NFL teams could use that?

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Speaker 1: I got no clue on how to, but it's two

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Speaker 1: guys from Vanderbilt University. So go figure. You know, a

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Speaker 1: big time engineering inside in school and you got two

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Speaker 1: neuro science majors putting it together. And good for them

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Speaker 1: because those guys are rolling in the dough now because

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Speaker 1: they don't just do it for NFL teams, they do

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Speaker 1: it for baseball teams and other stuff too, So they're

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Speaker 1: doing pretty good. Right now. Let's go to Mike in

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Speaker 1: Buffalo here before we go to break. What do you

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Speaker 1: got for us? Mike? Hang, Happy birthday to do Steve Belated.

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Speaker 1: I think in the first round we should take the

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Speaker 1: first linebacker we can, whether it's Campbell, Sanders or Simpson.

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Speaker 1: Sanders seems to be the best athletic. Second round, I

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Speaker 1: think we should take Washington, the tight end, a piece

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Speaker 1: of Vailable seems to be the most aggressive and physically

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Speaker 1: good blocker. Third round, I think we should take the

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Speaker 1: best offensive lineman or best defensive lineman. And fourth week,

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Speaker 1: I think that we should have a recount on the

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Speaker 1: survey done by the Bills and that ranch dressing should

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Speaker 1: replace blue cheese dressing for chicken wings in the stadium

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Speaker 1: next year. All right, Mike, you do know that was

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Speaker 1: in April fools Day joke, right, it was. It was

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Speaker 1: they got you. They got you. Thanks for the call, though,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you would never do that to you. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: got you on the April Fools joke. Oh that's good.

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Speaker 1: Where are we We're April thirteenth. Holy cow, Mike, Mike

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Speaker 1: held onto that for two weeks almost. Oh boy, I

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Speaker 1: feel sorry they got you. Um, well, hopefully we just

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Speaker 1: made his day. Yeah. Linebacker in the first round, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, man, Drew Sanders is my guy. I hope

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Speaker 1: he's there for Buffalo. I think he will be Darnielle

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Speaker 1: Washington in the second round. I don't think you got

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Speaker 1: a snowball's chance in h e double hockey sticks, because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go a lot earlier than that. That guy

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00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: is a freakazoid of an athlete. I've seen him going

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Speaker 1: as early as the teens. Yeah, so he might not

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Speaker 1: even be there for the Bills in the first round. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that might be a bit of a challenge, and

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Speaker 1: I think, Mike, you know this, but the draft doesn't

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Speaker 1: really work that way where you can say, well, I

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Speaker 1: think in the first round, we're gonna take this position.

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Speaker 1: In the second round, will take this position, in the

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Speaker 1: third round, will take It doesn't work like that because

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Speaker 1: it's based largely on draft value for each and each

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Speaker 1: and every one of the three fifty some odd players

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Speaker 1: they have grades on, and if the value doesn't meet

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Speaker 1: the position at the time they're drafting, they're not taking

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Speaker 1: a guy at that position. They're going to take a

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Speaker 1: player that matches the value of where they're picking. And

857
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: that's one thing people have debated with the linebackers, like

858
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: is the value there with an inside linebacker anymore in

859
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: today's NFL? And some people say yes, and some people

860
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: say no, it's the value is not there. You should

861
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: not be doing that. So could they trade out? Could

862
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: they trade out of the first round and get a

863
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: linebacker at the top of the second round and have

864
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: it make a little bit more sense? Or do does

865
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: Brandon bean or does the scouting department think if he's there,

866
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: we're going to go after him. Yeah, it's all based

867
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: on where they came down on the final grade, and

868
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: the final grade for them is going to be different

869
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: from the thirty one other teams because when they grade

870
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: these players, they do it based on how does this

871
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: player fit our team, How does this player fit our scheme?

872
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: How does this player's personality blend with the rest of

873
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: the locker room. And that's going to be a different

874
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: answer for every one of the thirty two teams. You

875
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: bake all that together, and you're gonna come out inevitably

876
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: with a different grade than all those other teams because

877
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: your answers aren't gonna be the same as theirs. And

878
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: that's why people get all caught up, Maddie when you

879
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: hear people say, well, this team said they only had

880
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: twenty five players with first round grades, and then people are, wow,

881
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna run out of players if you're picking anywhere

882
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: after twenty five. That's not the case because the twenty

883
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: five players that Team A may have with first round

884
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: grades are going to be different from maybe the twenty

885
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: players that this team has first round grades on. And

886
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: so when you add their twenty players and those twenty

887
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 1: five players, and maybe half of them are the same,

888
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: but maybe seven or eight of them aren't, you can

889
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of the round with players that

890
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: have first round grades as it pertains to that particular team.

891
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: You have to take a break here, but when we

892
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Speaker 1: come back, Brandon Alli is going to join us. He

893
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: is the co creator of the S two Cognition test,

894
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: which is now used in a widespread way by NFL

895
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: teams to determine the success rate of prospects as professional athletes.

896
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: Will get into the nuts and bolts of it next

897
00:50:20,080 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: with him here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned these

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live presented by Light of Health. All right,

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00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: welcome to our number two. Chris Brown, Mattie Glab with

900
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: you here on a Thursday one Bills Live and please

901
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: to be joined now by co founder chief marketing officer

902
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: of the S two Cognition program. It's Brandon Ali joining

903
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: us here on the line. And um, Brandon, first, thanks

904
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: for giving us some time. Second, I've got to kind

905
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: of wrap my head around the genesis of all this.

906
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: What sparked the idea in the first place, because clearly,

907
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, they always say, you know, necessity is the

908
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: mother of invention. What what came to light for you?

909
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: But we would love to say that this this uh

910
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: was spawned because there was a problem to be solved.

911
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: But um my co found under Scott Wiley and I

912
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: were actually on faculty at Vanderbilt University and the departments

913
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: of neurosurgery and neurology, and we operated labs that evaluated

914
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: the way people made made speed of decisions. I prominently

915
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: was working in the Alzheimer's Alzheimer's disease world and really

916
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: was trying to pick up on very early visual dysfunction,

917
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: driving problems, those kind of things that lead to to

918
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: significant issues. And Scott worked in Parkinson's disease, and so

919
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: he was very concerned at the earliest signs of when

920
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: people could start, stop, switch, redirect your motor system. Scott

921
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Speaker 1: and I are both college athletes, and so we have

922
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: always sort of dorked out on sports, if you will,

923
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: and so we would spend you know, after work hours,

924
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: grabbing a drink, just just whiteboarding what it takes for

925
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: the brain to engage in these processes that are involved

926
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Speaker 1: in hitting ninety five milein hour baseball, or what a

927
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: quarterback or a safety has to do. And you know,

928
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: it was kind of funny because we were constantly hearing

929
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: terms like, oh, he plays faster than his foot speed

930
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: or or you know, he's got a nose for the

931
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: ball and their anticipation, and so we were like, you

932
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: know what, we measure these things in the lab all

933
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: the time. So the battery of tests that we use

934
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: to evaluate these football players are literally straight from the

935
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: cognitive science literature. We didn't invent these tasks. They've been

936
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: in labs around the world for decades. They're well characterized,

937
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: andy they target very specific cognitive systems at a high level.

938
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: So things like your ability to inhibit responding too quickly,

939
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: your ability to focus on a motor performance task while

940
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: being distracted, all of those things are tapped into what

941
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: the brain has to do in sports, and we just

942
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: kind of help front offices and coaches and scouts sort

943
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: of overlay what that system does into the sports arena.

944
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: So again, I think there's a lot of misconception out

945
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: there that we're purporting to be able to predict how

946
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,919
Speaker 1: someone's going to be on the field. That's not really

947
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: what we do. We characterize how these folks brains are wired,

948
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: how it typically manifests their strengths and weaknesses, how it

949
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: typically manifests on the field of play, and then we

950
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: let your front office guys have that discussion about well,

951
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: does this fit the profile of what we're looking for

952
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: at this position. You know, there's a linebacker position. You

953
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: can have six or seven different styles of play at linebacker,

954
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: and so does this cognitive profile kind of fit what

955
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: we're thinking. So that was that's sort of the thrust

956
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: behind what we do. And then what has been the

957
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: success story of your company? How long did it take

958
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: to catch on? Was this something that you got in

959
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: front of NFL teams right away and they had buying

960
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: and they thought this is this is something that we

961
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: need or something we would like to have, or or

962
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: did it start a little smaller and slower or maybe

963
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: with different sports first before football really started to take

964
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: it on. Yeah, that's a great question. We intentionally started

965
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: very small because again, and I think when there's anything new,

966
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: sort of a disruption, um, you're gonna have skeptics. You're

967
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna have a period of figuring it out and do

968
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: the data tell us what we think it tells us.

969
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: Are you're measuring what you say you're measuring. Does it

970
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: match up with our scouts? Does it match up with

971
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: what they're doing on the figield Baseball took off much

972
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: quicker than than than football. But I think baseball was

973
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: there right their numbers game, they're analytics driven. UM, They're

974
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: very good at predicting performance on field now, UM, and

975
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: so we we we actually started as a company in

976
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. We did a lot of college work in

977
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: college football, but essentially the NFL. We started with a

978
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: small group and the Bills were one of those teams

979
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: back in twenty sixteen and kind of have grown since then.

980
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: Why this is taking off in this particular year, I

981
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: have no idea. UM. This is also the first year

982
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: where we've where we've had to deal with um, with

983
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: with folks leaking scores in the in the media. UM.

984
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: I would say, half of which are accurate, half of

985
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: which are way off base. So I'm not really sure

986
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: what made it sort of explode this year, right? And

987
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 1: so what positions have you or your clients found in football?

988
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking now to the test to be most helpful

989
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: in predicting player processing skills, Like, is there a position

990
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 1: that really seems to get nailed by your test. I'm

991
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: not saying, you know, it's useless for other positions. I'm

992
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: just wondering if there are a couple of specific positions

993
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: where it really helps the talent evaluators. Most I think

994
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: there's positions in the middle of the field, So the quarterback,

995
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, safety's corners. Those guys that really have to

996
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: rely on being able to see the whole field and

997
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: process visual information very quickly and make very rapid decisions,

998
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, the offensive line, the defensive line. Those guys

999
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: you know, physical skills to day right, and if you can,

1000
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: if you can run over somebody or buy somebody, it

1001
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: really doesn't matter how many objects you can track, right.

1002
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: And so again we also don't want to sort of

1003
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: purport that, hey, we've found something that we think is

1004
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: the holy Grail. This is one small piece of the

1005
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: puzzle that goes into the factors of you know, how

1006
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: big they are, how fast they are, how strong they are,

1007
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: what is their mechanics and footwork like, what's their game experience,

1008
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: what's their game knowledge? And oftentimes we are also conflated

1009
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: a little bit with everything above the next. So their

1010
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: psychological makeup. Do they respond well to failure? Do they

1011
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: like who they're playing for? Do they like who they're

1012
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: playing with? Do they respond well to failure? Do you know,

1013
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: they have a lot of pregame anxiety. To be an

1014
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: elite athlete, to be at the NFL level, you've got

1015
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: to have all of them. So we're just one small

1016
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: piece that kind of fits into the bigger picture of

1017
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: athlete evaluation. So can you take us through what a

1018
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: test looks like, how long it is, and how the

1019
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: tests are given and how they're evaluated. Yeah. Sure. So

1020
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: for the football battery, we measure nine different cognitive processes

1021
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: and so to evaluate that it takes about forty to

1022
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. We have partnered with a gaming company

1023
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: to have gaming style laptops that are capable. Mainly we're

1024
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: interested in the in the display because you have to

1025
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: be able to draw things on the screen within one

1026
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: or two one thousandth of a second, and they can

1027
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: only be on the screen for about fifteen one thousandth

1028
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: of a second. And then we also have a proprietary

1029
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: response pad that's built built out of Europe that can

1030
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: capture reaction time within one to two one thousandth of

1031
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: a second. And so we take our precision very it's

1032
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: a very important thing for us. And so they sit

1033
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: in front of that station and they're engaging in tasks

1034
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: that are requiring responses and less than half of a second,

1035
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: so you're move things are moving quick, really engaged. And

1036
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Speaker 1: what we find is most most elite players, like most

1037
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: things in their life, are super competitive with it. You know,

1038
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: they want to try to get it. They want to

1039
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: try to get them all right, even though there's no

1040
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: way to get them all right on our test. Our

1041
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: task is like as if you were to go into

1042
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: the weight room and try to find a one rep

1043
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: max right, You're going to fail at some point. So

1044
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: that's what we try to do is just try to

1045
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: find the point of failure in those nine cognitive processes.

1046
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: And I know a couple of them are These are

1047
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: interesting to me, so that's why I wanted to ask

1048
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: you about them. So and the only reason I'm asking

1049
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: this one, Brandon, is because traditionally Scouts would talk about

1050
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: the kind of learners that players are. Like, some guys

1051
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: are visual learners. You put it on the board, bang,

1052
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: they got it. Other guys are physical learners. They have

1053
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: to physically rep it on the field to get it.

1054
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: You've got in your list of characteristics visual learning and

1055
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: instinctive learning. Can you give us the differentiation between the two. Yeah. Sure,

1056
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: So just as a preface of this, we measure things

1057
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: on the execution side, right, And so when you talk

1058
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: about playbook learning and complex scheme learning and things like that,

1059
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: that's not something we measure. We pretty We feel like

1060
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: the Scouts do a great job of talking to colleges

1061
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: and understanding how that athlete is going to learn, if

1062
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: he's capable of learning complex things, how long that's going

1063
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: to take him. Our visual learning task is more concerned

1064
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: with can they take what they learn in two D

1065
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: space so film room installs, how you do your installs,

1066
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: and then translate it into three D space on the field,

1067
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: so be able to know with alignment where they're got,

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Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be proximal to other players when

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Speaker 1: the ball is snapped, where am I supposed to go

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Speaker 1: to find space? But that is something you can study for.

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Speaker 1: We call that explicit memory, the implicit. The instinctive learning

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Speaker 1: is more implicit. This is not something you're studying for.

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Speaker 1: This is something you're just picking up subtle tendencies and

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: queues over time in adjusting your play. So in the

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01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: NFL it's so sophisticated these days. If you're on offense

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Speaker 1: and you line up across the defense, They're not going

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Speaker 1: to give you the same look from week to week

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Speaker 1: out of that formation, so you've kind of kind of

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Speaker 1: pick up what they're doing on the fly. And so

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Speaker 1: this is an athlete's ability to pick up how quickly

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Speaker 1: can they pick up on those subtle tendencies and cues.

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Speaker 1: Even dating back to your time at Vanderbilt and the

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Speaker 1: tests that you were doing on people then and now

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Speaker 1: the tests here with athletes, is there anything that you've

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Speaker 1: learned about the human brain and mind that you just

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Speaker 1: think is fascinating that you get to see through tests

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Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, I think one of the most fascinating

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Speaker 1: things is that people don't know how extraordinary elite athletes

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Speaker 1: brains are wired. One of the things because I studied

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Speaker 1: a visual process in which we've tried to find the

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Speaker 1: limits of where how quickly you could present something to

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Speaker 1: someone and they could act process it visually, so we

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: can all see something, but how quickly we process it.

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Speaker 1: And historically the scientific literature has suggested that sixteen one

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Speaker 1: thousandth of a second that people couldn't process that, and

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Speaker 1: that's what they used as subliminal messaging. So If you

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Speaker 1: remember the old, you know, nineteen fifties commercials, they might

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Speaker 1: flash up a picture of a coke bottle for sixteen

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Speaker 1: one thousandth of a second. You didn't really see it,

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01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, man, I wish I had a coke.

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Speaker 1: It kind of was this subliminal messaging U. And that

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Speaker 1: was sort of in the literature. What we've found in

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01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: particularly baseball, these guys that can hit one hundred miles

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Speaker 1: an hours that is not even remotely close to true

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Speaker 1: um And it's just something that's never been reported, is

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Speaker 1: that we see guys who can actually process thirteen fourteen

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Speaker 1: one thousandth of a second uh and and and do

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Speaker 1: it well, do it routinely. So seeing how phenomenal athletes

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Speaker 1: brains are wired. We also got into this discussion about

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Speaker 1: five years ago about elite gamers and you know, and

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01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: in some of these teams like, hey, I got such

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Speaker 1: and such a player, he's a gamer, is he going

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01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: to score well on here? So it let us we

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01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: actually test the top ten Halo players in the world.

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Speaker 1: They all reside in Seattle and build these teams to

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01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: destroy these tournaments for millions of dollars, and we put

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Speaker 1: them in front of the football battery to see how

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Speaker 1: they would how they would compete against football players, And

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Speaker 1: it turns out they are in the high average range

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Speaker 1: for football for elite football players, but they are not

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Speaker 1: the top of that. They cannot process as fast as

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Speaker 1: the elite athletes, which is just really interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: Two other parts of the test that I wanted to

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Speaker 1: have you differentiate for us the distraction control how well

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Speaker 1: a player can stay kind of locked in on what

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Speaker 1: the task is, I'm guessing, and then improvisation where it's

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Speaker 1: it would seemingly be the opposite thing. So how do

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Speaker 1: you I'm just amazed you can craft something that can

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Speaker 1: have those two different things measured equally well, if you

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01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So how do I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm fascinated by that. Yeah, great question. So

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Speaker 1: each one of them has very specific, a very specific

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01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: task in which we're engaging, So we're really focusing on

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01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 1: the distraction control system. So think about a quarterback who

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01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: has to focus on a target with hands in his face,

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01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: hearing footsteps, maybe a hand to the back of the

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01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: helmet or pulling on a jersey, and he's got to

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01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: maintain motor focus. That's one specific task, and then later

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01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: on in the battery they'll get another task that asked

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01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: them to essentially respond in an improvisational nature. So you're

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Speaker 1: expecting one thing to happen. It's like a classic NFL play.

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Speaker 1: I think some statistics have shown that it's only between

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01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: sixty or between sixty and eighty percent of the time

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: an NFL play doesn't go as planned. So you've got

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01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: to quickly find a response, right, And so I think

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01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: what you're bringing up, though, is a really great point.

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01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: Is like some of these scores that you're hearing is

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01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: a single number that's relatively meaningless. It's really among the

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01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: pattern of scores. So somebody could have poor distraction control

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01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: and really high improvisation, and that athlete will play in

1151
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: a certain style, so he may become distracted by a

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01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: tight end coming across the middle and he's not supposed

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01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: to be looking at it. But man, if that first

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01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: read is shut down, he can find something really quickly,

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Speaker 1: an alternative really quickly to respond. It's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: it hurts sometimes to think about this processes in a vacuum,

1157
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: because they don't always operate in a vacuum, right or

1158
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: isn't in a vacuum. I gotta believe that Josh did

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Speaker 1: pretty well on improvisation in light of what we've seen

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's pretty crazy. And in terms of feedback,

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Speaker 1: what type of feedback have you gotten from these athletes

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Speaker 1: who have taken these tests? Do they do they enjoy?

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Speaker 1: Do they say this is something that I've never done

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01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: before in my life? And then from from the coaches

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: and the scouts are do they come back after they've

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01:05:55,880 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: drafted a player or or taken a player and have said, Wow,

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Speaker 1: we've really seen this thing that they tested really high

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01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: on it, it's showed up now now that we're playing games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so great question. So the vast majority of athletes walk,

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01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: get up, shake their head and say, whoa that was?

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: That was tough. U and others of them find it

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Speaker 1: really challenging. They are engaging, they want to know, they

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01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: want to learn about it. They're like, oh, I took

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Speaker 1: an engineering class, I took a psychology class, and this

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01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: is really important. So it's engaging to the athletes. And

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Speaker 1: that was first and foremost important to us is to

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Speaker 1: build a system that they were actually gonna kind of

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01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: have fun with rather than not another bubble sheet that

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Speaker 1: we've got to fill out or a thousand questions. You know,

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Speaker 1: am I going to run into a burning building to

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,479
Speaker 1: save a teammate kind of thing? Um? And you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. So just in complete transparency. We are very

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Speaker 1: We share a lot of confidence with our NFL teams

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01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: and when we're not really fans of breaking that confidence

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01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: and so um, we have those conversations with our front

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01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: office and a lot of a lot of the conversations

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01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: actually guide what we do. We take that feedback to

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: heart and we try to get better. We try to learn.

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: We try to say, hey, what are we not getting right?

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01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 1: What are we getting right? So that we can sort

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01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: of move the needle forward. As you would imagine in

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01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: most technology landscapes and pro sports are hotbeds or these

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Speaker 1: college programs that really really dig in. I mean, most

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Speaker 1: of the product that you see at the NFL level

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01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: has been tested and vetted for years at a program

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Speaker 1: like LSU or Florida State where we're just sitting there

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Speaker 1: year after year working out the kinks, doing analyzes, statistical analyzes,

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Speaker 1: and working with athletes and using other technology like eye

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Speaker 1: trackers and MRIs to make sure We're measuring everything we

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Speaker 1: measure so that when we go to the Brando Beans

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01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: of the world, it's hey, this is what it is.

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01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: This is how we can be helpful. We're always here

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01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: for you. Last one for me, Brandon, Can you take

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Speaker 1: the test results that your S two tests provide and

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: I guess project them to the more conventional NFL statistics

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01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: that we're used to. And I guess, just as a

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01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: random example, like for a quarterback, he did he scored

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Speaker 1: this on the S two test, and based on some

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Speaker 1: of the you know nine things that you measure, we

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 1: think his pastor rating should be x you know, for

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Speaker 1: the length of his career. Do you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: can you make those projections or is that too far

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Speaker 1: down the road. Yeah, that's a great question. I think

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Speaker 1: we're just at the beginning of that. We've had some

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Speaker 1: success making some relationships to on field performance at certain positions,

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Speaker 1: and as you know, the NFL is very hard to

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Speaker 1: define success. I mean, I think you know, you and

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Speaker 1: I are not going to sit here and say we

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01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: don't we don't know if Josh Allen is successful. But

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's also in the top five percent of athletes

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Speaker 1: who we can walk away and comfortably say he's successful,

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Speaker 1: even though on Twitter may get some people that say

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01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: he's not successful. Um, but you know it's hard, right,

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01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: and the sample size isn't very big. To be honest,

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01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: we've only done we've done five complete drafts in the NFL,

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01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: and so it takes a lot of work to be

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Speaker 1: able to really dig down, especially at a position like

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position, where there's only one for every team.

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Speaker 1: Some of these guys have been in before we started testing.

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01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: Some of these guys are in for long periods of time.

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Speaker 1: So I mean that's the ultimate goal is we want

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Speaker 1: to be able to help teams have confidence in picking

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Speaker 1: a guy because he's likely to perform like you know,

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01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: if if if if Brandon Bean gets a profile that

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01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: looks like Josh Allen's, hopefully he'll have some confidence and

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Speaker 1: saying Okay, um, this guy may play like like Josh.

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Speaker 1: You know, but we're not at the point where we

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01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: feel comfortable saying, oh, this guy is going to be successful.

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01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: It's so hard to predict success. And like we talked

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: about earlier, you've got to have the psychological makeup and

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01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: all of the other things I would say for ever

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Speaker 1: for every quarterback that has scored above nine be on

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: our evaluation, that is a stud And we're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Josh Allen. There's been quarterbacks that have scored ninety

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: and never never played a snap. Wow. Okay, but maybe

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01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 1: down the line, that's something you might be able to

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01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: get to with enough of a sample size and enough

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01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: years of stuff being recorded in that database. Yeah, and

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: I think, like, like I said, the Holy Grail is

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01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: we're measuring cognitive capacity. I think it has to be

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01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: put in the puzzle of all of the physical skills.

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01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: So that quarterback who scores ninety but doesn't play a snap,

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01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: he could also be five eight and can only throw

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01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: thirty five yards. Well, you're never going to play in

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01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 1: the NFL no matter how sharp your brain is in

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01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: that respect. Right, it was putting all of those pieces.

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Speaker 1: It's complicated, as you're well aware of, Super Brandon, very

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01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: enlightening conversation. We appreciate the time. Maybe we'll catch up

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: with you down the line around draft time again in

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01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: the future. Good luck with everything, and it's really agresting.

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01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. All Right, that's

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01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: brand and An Alley, co founder, chief marketing officer of

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01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: S two Cognition, a test being used by the Bills

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01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other teams in the NFL to

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01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: better predict future successful performance in draft prospects. I think

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01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: my brain's gonna explode. I'm just trying to intelligently talk

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01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 1: about this thing. I didn't come up with it. I mean,

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01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: I know what he's saying, like he's he's kind of

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: almost being self deprecating in coming up with this. I

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01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: don't care if he didn't invent the testing, but getting

1271
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: pulling in the technology from all the different places just

1272
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: to be able to execute the test, measure the results

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01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 1: of the test in real time, so by the time

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01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 1: as soon as the tests over, bang, there's a great

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01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: and then also be able to give feedback from different

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01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: different sports and different clubs and say, okay, let's implement

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01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: this here, let's change this test up this way, let's

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Speaker 1: configure these analytics and this way. Absolutely fascinated. I love

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Speaker 1: the point that he said, it's incredible to see elite

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Speaker 1: athletes and how they can test way higher than an

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Speaker 1: average average person might be able to test in terms

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Speaker 1: of processing information way quicker. And I think that's one

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Speaker 1: of the main reasons why there are players in this

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Speaker 1: game who, maybe at the combine don't test off the charts,

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Speaker 1: but maybe on this test they're through the roof, and

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Speaker 1: because they are, with their reaction times and whatever else

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Speaker 1: is measured in there, even though they don't have elite

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Speaker 1: physical measurables in terms of forty times vertical leap whatever

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Speaker 1: you know, eighty five bench press reps, whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: because of their cognition skills, they put themselves in position

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Speaker 1: to be successful. Even though they might not be the

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Speaker 1: fastest person point a to point b, they get there

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01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 1: because of some of this millet. Hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 1: seconds reaction time point one two or what? No, that's

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Speaker 1: not point one two? What am I saying? It's like

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Speaker 1: point zero zero, one two, fifteen thousands of a second.

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Speaker 1: Good lord man, I don't even that's nuts. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you wrap your head around formulating all that.

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Speaker 1: But that's why I'm sitting here and he's in a

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Speaker 1: lab somewhere at Vanderbilt doing it right. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: just I feel like I got smarter in that last segment,

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Speaker 1: but I can't hold a candle to what's between the

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Speaker 1: ears of Brandon Atlee so good for him and his

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Speaker 1: co founder. I mean there, they got something big there. Really,

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Speaker 1: I mean impressed. He said he's a sports fan, played

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01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: played a college athlete, was a college athlete. It's so

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01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, when you can work in something that you

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01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: grew up in and that you love so much, like

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01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: that's not work anymore. And that's that's cool for him

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Speaker 1: and for his partner that they've been able to do that.

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Speaker 1: We will take a break here. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: more of your thoughts on your most important trader characteristic

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Speaker 1: you think the bill should look for in drafting players.

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Speaker 1: Open phone line for you at eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to some of your thoughts on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: as well. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid

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Speaker 1: of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we are back.

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Speaker 1: What is your most important trader characteristic the bill should

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01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: look for in drafting players? Just went over the whole

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Speaker 1: S two cognition test, which measures a multitude of stuff.

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01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: Mind blow, yeah, my brain is still overflowing. Um, But

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Speaker 1: let's go to the phones and see what you think.

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01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: And waiting patiently has been Dan in Angola and let

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 1: me pull it there he is, Dan. What do you

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Speaker 1: got for us? You're on one Bills Live. Hey, you

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01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: got to quest and Maddie. Nice to see it, Maddie. Um,

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: you know the one thing for for that, you've got

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01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: to have somebody that wants to be here, and that

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01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: means coming into the U the whole community and the

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: whole U way we do things here. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing would be a lot of integrity. You gotta have that.

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: You gotta want to be here. You gotta be a

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Speaker 1: part of the community. Um. But I wanted to touch

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Speaker 1: places on that call you yesterday talking about bijon Bill's

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01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: bandwagon and having some players from Bill or some members

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 1: of the Bill Mafia wanning Bjohn. I agree. We haven't

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01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 1: had a good solid running back. Uh. You know for years.

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01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 1: Last time we had a wide receiver and a running

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01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: back with a thousand yards I think it was a

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Speaker 1: twenty twelve was CJ. Spiller and Steve Johnson. We get

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Speaker 1: Bejohn in the backfield. We got Bejohn, David Harris, Naheim, Hines,

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Speaker 1: James Cook. What a lineup right now? We're looking at

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01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: Latavius Murray. I mean, let's get Bjohn in here and

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Speaker 1: put this thing to rest. Yeah. I get what you're saying, Dan,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate the call. Thanks for doing it. Um

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Speaker 1: number one, not to rain on your parade. I will

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Speaker 1: be stunned if Bijon Robinson gets paid as pick eighteen.

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01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: Stunned twenty. I mean if he has to twenty, I'll

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01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: be surprised. He is an amazing talent. I don't think

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01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 1: there's any debate about that. And if you want to

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01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: debate the merits of having him on your roster, does

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: he make your team better? Sure, he makes your team better.

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01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 1: Does he maximize what the Bills do best? He can

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01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield, but what the

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: Bills do best usually runs through Josh Allen's arm, and

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 1: I think it reduces the maximum value you could get

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Speaker 1: from a running back the caliber of a Bijean Robinson. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not debating for a second he would make your

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Speaker 1: roster better. He unquestionably would. But you just rattled off

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Speaker 1: four names in the backfield. Damian Harris, James Cook, who

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: all by the way, was the second round pick at

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01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,839
Speaker 1: his not chopped liver and is pretty dang talented himself.

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Speaker 1: And then Nihiim Hines, and then you add Bijean Robinson.

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Speaker 1: You gotta remember you only got one football, and this

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01:16:56,200 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: is a team that averages somewhere between eighteen to twenty

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01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: carries a game, and it's usually split between two sometimes

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Speaker 1: three people if you count Josh Allen running the football

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Speaker 1: as well. So now you're down to about six or

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Speaker 1: seven carries a game. Are you going to spend a

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Speaker 1: first round pick on a guy that's going to touch

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Speaker 1: the ball eight nine times a game tops. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're doing that. Yeah. I've always

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,759
Speaker 1: said this is a team and this is an offense

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Speaker 1: where running back is not going to get more than

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Speaker 1: twenty carries a game. It's just it's not the way

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Speaker 1: the offense is run. It's not the type of quarterback

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01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: that we have throwing the football to people. I understand

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01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: it in a different system, in a different offense, but

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01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: that's just not what the Bills are and with what

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01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 1: they have already in the backfield, it doesn't make sense

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01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: to add somebody to that. I understand. Bijean Robinson is

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01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: a generational type character and talent, and he's getting camped

1384
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: to say Quon Barkley and can really change a team.

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01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: But the team that sae Quon was on, where say

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01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: Quon was sa Quan and is getting back to being

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01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: sa Quan, is not what the Buffalo Bills were. Just

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01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: there're two different teams. And so if he's available at

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, which I do not think he's going to

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01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: be available there, I do think you're scouting department has

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01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: to think long and hard about do we this guy

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Speaker 1: is next level? Should we take somebody like him and

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01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: figure out how to work him in? Maybe? But well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the common argument we hear from callers, and

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01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: it's a legitimate argument. They say, well, if you got

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Speaker 1: Bijean Robinson, you would run the ball more and he

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01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: would get more opportunities. That may well be true. Maybe

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01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 1: he becomes the featured back and everybody else takes a

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01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: back seat and barely sees the field. But even then

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Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy that's carrying the ball twelve

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Speaker 1: times going to be twenty and I and philosophically, philosophically,

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01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: as an offense, I think this team has completely bought

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: into what the analytics have told NFL teams and that

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01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: is the most efficient way to get to thirty points

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: scored a game is by throwing the football more often

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01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: than you run the football. It's just been proven in

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Speaker 1: analytics over the last ten years throwing the football is

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Speaker 1: the most efficient way to score touchdowns. It's more efficient

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01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: than running the ball. Even if you have a dynamic

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 1: running back, it is still more efficient to throw the ball,

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Speaker 1: and that is what has contributed to the devaluation of

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Speaker 1: the running back position. Analytics has shown throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: is more effective way to score Why do I need

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Speaker 1: an all world running back? I can score thirty points

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01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: a game if I have the quarterback. Now if you don't.

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01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: If you don't have the quarterback, then you'll listen to

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01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: be Jean Robinson as a first round draft choice. But

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, one of the main candidates

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 1: to draft Bejean Robinson is going to be the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 1: And you can say, well, why are they going to

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01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: do that? They have Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts was as

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Speaker 1: good as he was last year because he was supported

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01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: by the best running attack in football. He is not

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Speaker 1: capable as a quarterback in this league, at least in

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01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: my opinion, to carry an offense by himself the way

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen can. And here comes the next counter argument, Well,

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Speaker 1: Josh can't do it all himself. You're right, he can't,

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01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 1: and he shouldn't be asked to. But I don't think

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01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: a running back fixes the balance of responsibility enough because

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Speaker 1: the running backs here are not going to carry the

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01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: ball enough to do that. And I would rather see

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01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,600
Speaker 1: another receiver in the offense to take more of the

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01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: load off of Josh, or to make his job easier

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01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: than turning around and handing it off, because Josh Allen's

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01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: your best player on offense on the entire team. Taking

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01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands, I think compromises how

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01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: effective you are as a scoring team rather than enhance it.

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01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I come down. Yeah, I

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01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: completely agree. It's it's just the offense would have to

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01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: change with a player like Bijon, and the offense is

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01:20:56,920 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: already pretty dang good. They've had success, had success in

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01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: the last few years. It's worked for them. Yes, they

1443
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: need tweaks here and there, and yes, the rushing offense

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01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: has been a topic of conversation, is something that could

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01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 1: get better, but it's never been a conversation of this

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01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: team needs to turn into a run first offense versus

1447
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: a past first offense, or an offense that is going

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01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: to run the ball sixty percent of the time and

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01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 1: pass it forty percent of the time. It's just not

1450
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: in the identity and the makeup of what this offense

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01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: is and with what they have and and even the

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01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: offensive line that they have, like, it's just it's not

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01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,719
Speaker 1: it's not. It. It works for other teams, I don't

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01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: see it working for the Bills, especially. You go back

1455
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: to twenty seven, Bijean Robinson has been flying up of

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01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: the boards and mock drafts later, He's just not there.

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01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: You might go ten to the Eagles, he might be

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01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 1: a top ten and pick. Before all is said and done,

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01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: let's go back to the tweet sheet, see what you

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01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: think is your most important trader characteristic the Bill should

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01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: look for in drafting players. We left off with Jimmy

1462
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 1: who said who can run the best route tree? So

1463
01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: he's obviously thinking he's got receiver on the brain or

1464
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 1: tight end perhaps, and want somebody that can run the

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01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: full route tree, which is harder and harder to find

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01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 1: in college prospects these days because a lot of times

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01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: they're the most gifted athlete on the field, and if

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01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 1: they can just run go routes and post routes all day,

1469
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 1: the coach is gonna be like, just run a go

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01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: route or a post route, and they do that for

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01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: their entire college career, and you're like, can the guy

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01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: run an eighteen yard come back? The perfect example of

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01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: that is Jalen hilt Hyatt. He ran a few routes

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01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 1: at Tennessee and he was really good at running those

1475
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: routes at Tennessee, and that's what made him an elite

1476
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: athlete there. He scored four touchdowns against Alabama because he

1477
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 1: was so good at creating separation with the routes that

1478
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 1: he ran. But when you look at him as an

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01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: overall why receiver and how that transfers to the NFL,

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01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: people are starting to wonder can he add more to

1481
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: the route tree that he runs? Can he run more

1482
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: than just these three routes? And sometimes people aren't willing

1483
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 1: to take a chance on receivers like that, well, not

1484
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: as high in the dress, not as high in the draft.

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01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 1: Feel he could be a successful player, but is he

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Speaker 1: in a lead player? I don't know why he only

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01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: ran three routes in college. I don't know if he

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01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: can run this, this or this, and so how versatile

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01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: a receiver is he He might be the most versatile

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: receiver we've ever seen. But it's the unknown that drops

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01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: guys on people's boards because they don't have the evidence

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01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: in front of them on tape to confirm it. And

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01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: that makes people gunshy. And that's why guys slide down

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01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,559
Speaker 1: the board if their full skill set hasn't been on

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01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 1: display in a game or on tape. Dinah on the

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01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: tweet sheet says, athleticism, self starter, want to willing, this

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01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: to learn, and those are all good qualities and you

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01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 1: want him in your players for sure. Dilfer says ability

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01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: to catch hard thrown balls. I guess this is with

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01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: Josh in mind and his arm strength. We've all heard

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01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: about the change his wide receivers have had to make

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01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: to accommodate Alan's power. I think getting a guy who

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01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: has that ability already would be a big plus to

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01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 1: limit drops. Yeah, soft hands, I guess is what you're

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01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 1: looking for there. One of the guys who had really

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01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 1: soft hands in a Bills uniform was Andre Reid. He

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01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: used to get some bullets from Kelly in practice sometimes

1508
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: and even from some of the other quarterbacks after Jim

1509
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,720
Speaker 1: had retired. Who could really zing the ball in there?

1510
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: And it never made a sound when it hit Andrea's hands.

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01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 1: I can't explain it. I don't know how he did it,

1512
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: but I guess that's why he's All of Famer. Michael

1513
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet says, hungry, vocal, and wanting to

1514
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 1: impact immediately. They sound lax, are uninterested in anything but salary.

1515
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: Then they're away. Some of your people, crack me up.

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01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 1: That's why they have those meetings to see character, and

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01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: the Bills need more dig players that are hungry and

1518
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: vocal moving forward. It's funny, but Mike's right, and they

1519
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: do look for that stuff. Yeah, you want somebody who's

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01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: going to be a leader. We talk about a lot

1521
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 1: with if you're if you've been a captain on your

1522
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: team in college football, that goes a long way with

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01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,799
Speaker 1: certain teams, certain scouting departments. People want to see somebody

1524
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: that's willing to take the lead when need be, and

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01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: we hear about it a lot with our current team.

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01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: Guys stepping into that leadership role and oftentimes how they've

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01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: been improved as a leader is becoming more vocal. Sometimes

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01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: that's something that that isn't natural for players, and it's

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01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: something that they have to add on to how they lead,

1530
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,640
Speaker 1: and it's not always the most comfortable thing to do.

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01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 1: It's hard to tell a player that doesn't talk a

1532
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: lot to talk a lot more and to talk a

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01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: lot more, especially if you're younger. I think if somebody

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01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: like Tremaine who wasn't the most vocal guy coming into

1535
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: the Bills and was asked to do a lot as

1536
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: as a mic linebacker and year old and the captain

1537
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: of the defense, and was asked to speak up and

1538
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 1: call plays next to guys who were ten years older

1539
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: than him, that's a tough position to step into. He

1540
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: made it work, but not everybody can make it work.

1541
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 1: And he didn't make it work right away. It took

1542
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: some learning on the job. It took some coaxing from

1543
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: people like Lorenzo Alexander, you know, a veteran in the

1544
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 1: room and say hey, you're playing an important position. It's

1545
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: time for you to step up. Last comment on the

1546
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 1: tweet sheet from BLT competitive spirit and heart can never

1547
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 1: lose on selecting someone with this trait. Good comments from

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01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,760
Speaker 1: everybody on the tweet sheet we take a break here

1549
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 1: when Maddie and I come back. The Bills schedule won't

1550
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: be out until next month, but how is it looking

1551
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:47,760
Speaker 1: in terms of strength of schedule based on the opponents

1552
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 1: they will be facing. We'll get to that list next

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01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: Here on One Bills Live, presented by Colloid to Health,

1554
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, one final segment here

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01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 1: on one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Mattie Glad with you

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01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: on a Thursday, and the NFL strength of schedule for

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01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is pretty daunting for the Buffalo Bills.

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01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 1: The five hardest schedules, as determined by last year's winning

1559
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 1: percentage of these teams opponents are as follows hardest schedule

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01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: in the league, the New England Patriots. Second hardest schedule

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01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: in the league, the Buffalo Bills. They're followed by the Chiefs, Raiders,

1562
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 1: and Dolphins as the top five hardest strength of schedule. Maddie,

1563
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 1: this article also has them with their projected win total.

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01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Ten point eight wins for the Bills is what they're

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01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,879
Speaker 1: projecting in twenty twenty three. But they're facing some tough teams,

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01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 1: that is correct, and you know they're off at thirteen

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01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: coming off at thirteen and three season. The year before

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01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 1: they were eleven and six, right, eleven and six, and

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01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: then the year before that they were thirteen and three,

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01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 1: thirteen and three. Yes, I'm trying to I'm like, I

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01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: got crossed up because I said thirteen and three last year,

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01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 1: I was like, wait a second, seventeen games and I

1573
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: forgot about the canceled Cincinnati game. So thirteen and three,

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01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: eleven and six, thirteen and three. So tougher schedule this year.

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01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is gonna be a tough row to hoe.

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01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 1: And it's due in part because they're playing the NFC East.

1577
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 1: Their crossover AFC games in the divisions they're not playing

1578
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 1: are the Bengals because they finished in first place in

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01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: the AFC, So they're gonna play the first place team

1580
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: in the AFC South, that's Jacksonville. They're gonna play the

1581
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 1: first place team in the AFC North and that's Cincinnati.

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01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: They've also got the Eagles on their schedule and the

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01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:46,720
Speaker 1: Chiefs on their schedule, and then the whole NFCC. The

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01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: East teams could be tough. You got to play the

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01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: Dolphins twice, Jets twice, the Jets twice so yeah, it's

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01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be easy, and a good Chargers team

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01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: that made the playoffs last year and just kind of

1588
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: crumbled in a comeback game. By by the way, the

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01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: other team they got to play Jacksonville, So crazy, crazy stuff.

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01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: That is it for us here on a Thursday. But

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 1: Maddie is gonna be right back here tomorrow with me

1592
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: on Friday, where we will have the latest position review

1593
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: with one Greg Cosell from NFL Films who's going to

1594
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: dive into the receiver position for us beyond round one.

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01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:25,759
Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow at one