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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Chef Kevin here. If you miss last week's episode,

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Speaker 1: the boys and I announced we're taking a holiday break.

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Speaker 2: Woo.

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Speaker 1: So what's that mean? This episode and next week's episode,

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Speaker 1: we're on paywalling some content from behind the Patreon. This

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Speaker 1: one is our one of our two of our two

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Speaker 1: of our favorite pro versions from this year. The guys

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Speaker 1: and I chatted about it, some people on the discord

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Speaker 1: sent some suggestions as well, and we got two amazing

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Speaker 1: episodes that we're gonna release right now and then next

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Speaker 1: week we are unpaywalling one of the best episodes of

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Masterclass, but they're all the best. Also, in case

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Speaker 1: you missed it, we made a free feed for Hollywood

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Speaker 1: Masterclass and it has all three seasons on there. A

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Speaker 1: link for that is in the description. Also, also, just

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Speaker 1: because some people have asked, we're still going to be

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Speaker 1: releasing some new pro versions and the flavorant ones on

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Speaker 1: the Patreon for the next two weeks. So enjoy these

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Speaker 1: two episodes and happy holidays.

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Speaker 3: Crack this g Fuel, bust the g Fuel open. It's

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Speaker 3: important that you get fueled up.

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Speaker 4: Cracked this crash band coot wump of fruit Flavor, G

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Speaker 4: Fuel been eyeballing this in the fridge for going on

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Speaker 4: two weeks now. It was checked the date on this.

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Speaker 4: Mother get a big of the day. I got a

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Speaker 4: whole year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you can really take small sissip on it,

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Speaker 3: tiny SIPs because you can actually drink this for three

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Speaker 3: hundred and sixty five full days m and never.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh, I'm getting ready to get in that

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Speaker 4: ass of doctor Neo Cortex.

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Speaker 3: You see the adaptogenic mushroom cola by Drama.

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Speaker 4: I was drinking yesterday. Have you had that? I'm really

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Speaker 4: focused on wump of fruit flavored fuel right now. I

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Speaker 4: had never had do Neo Gordon says, kidnapped my sister.

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Speaker 3: Goco Kevin throw and Akuaco throw a picture of the

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Speaker 3: mushroom cola up at some point so people can see

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Speaker 3: it too, because that we both have had some interesting drinks.

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Speaker 4: Doctor Neo Cortex. I will call and it's I'm coming

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Speaker 4: for you.

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Speaker 3: And that was really something special a dram dram. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there we go, there we go right up top.

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Speaker 4: Put me in the corpothe put you in the cortex

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Speaker 4: wartex ye.

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Speaker 3: Bitch, I was having this yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Looks good? Does it tastes like a big marsh took.

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Speaker 3: Me on a journey. Yeah, guess how many calories.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say grams of sugar. I'm gonna say two zero.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they do it, because it does

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Speaker 3: have a little bit of a cola taste. No, I

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Speaker 3: didn't pay twenty five dollars for it, like this website that's.

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Speaker 4: A twelve pack h twenty five dollars for twelve hours,

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Speaker 4: although I don't. Yeah, I did pay five or easy easy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I need to have a special drink sometimes. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't handle the fucking g fuel. I can't have

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Speaker 3: I can't have warm fruit.

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Speaker 4: Look at that. Even the warning labels are warped by

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Speaker 4: the contents inside. Yeah, they've been struggling to be freed,

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Speaker 4: just like Crash from Doctor Neocortex's experiment.

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Speaker 3: Well, I you know, I do want to talk a

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Speaker 3: little bit about actually struggle and real a desire for

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Speaker 3: freedom and a desire for expression, which of course Crash

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Speaker 3: Bandicoota is fighting for, you know, within the context of

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Speaker 3: the game. I want to talk about this town, what

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Speaker 3: it does to people. That's the purpose of the show,

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Speaker 3: and I want to talk about also we try to

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Speaker 3: get personal, We try to be raw. I'm feeling really

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Speaker 3: vulnerable today because some of the things we battle against

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Speaker 3: have invited themselves into my own home.

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Speaker 4: We talk about hypocrisy, we talk about fakeness. We talk

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Speaker 4: about people that are just like out there putting on

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Speaker 4: this like big performance for everybody, and it's like, number one,

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Speaker 4: you like the shit you're doing sucks.

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Speaker 3: That's first.

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Speaker 4: Number two, no one wants to hear any of this bullshit.

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Speaker 3: Number three shut the fuck yes up, like get out

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Speaker 3: of my face, like stop yes. And number four we

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Speaker 3: talk about hypocrisy, Get out of my fucking face, shut up,

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Speaker 3: you know, because the shit you're doing sucks. Over with this, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: later for the night, night, later for that. And when

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Speaker 3: I say later, you go, well when in like an hour,

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Speaker 3: I mean no, after I am dead and gone. Later

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Speaker 3: for that when I have died in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: And you say, okay, well you've done it for seven

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Speaker 4: or eight teasers, but when are you gonna like turn

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Speaker 4: well that's what we're talking about today with with not

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Speaker 3: Wait, yes, we've gone we've gone into teasers, we've said

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Speaker 3: what works, we've said what doesn't work, And obviously we're

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Speaker 3: putting judgment on other people's homes and their side of

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Speaker 3: you know, the self facing camera lens on and go

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Speaker 3: selfie mode and talk about what's happening in my own home.

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Speaker 3: So the other day, I'm in the car with my child,

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Speaker 3: he says, what's that I'm driving? By the way, I'm driving?

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Speaker 3: What's that? Well, unless you're talking about the road, I don't.

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Speaker 4: Know, and it's just you and the car.

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Speaker 3: It's me, it's him. My wife is there, Okay, a

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like you say something like, I'm driving the car.

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Speaker 3: What's that the road? The posted traffic signs that allow

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Speaker 3: me to stay safe here? Is that what you mean?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: That the different warning lights that I need to be

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Speaker 4: accounting for keeping in balance at all.

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Speaker 3: Times, the colors, the words, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: The other cars. It's like, it's crazy when you think

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Speaker 3: about it, what we do when we get behind that wheel.

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Speaker 3: The amount of things you're not playing saying a video game, haze,

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Speaker 3: this is real life, okay. The number of things you

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Speaker 4: There's no hitting pause to go have a go, have

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Speaker 4: a snack.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't regenerate.

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Speaker 4: There's no eating peanut butter pizza role. No.

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Speaker 3: No, there's no mocketing some crate and there's a grenade

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Speaker 4: They come inside of peanut butter pizza role. You play

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Speaker 4: video games outside at your house. M you have the

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Speaker 4: whole rig set up outside. No, don't want you to

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Speaker 4: play that inside. There's no two liters soda bottle.

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Speaker 3: Right, So we kind of get through the other side

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Speaker 3: of that, you know. Luckily there was a stop light,

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Speaker 4: You turn all the way around.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, what's what? What is what? And he's pointing

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Speaker 3: at an advertisement, of course, the commercialization of our culture,

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Speaker 4: He's facing forward now.

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Speaker 3: He's facing diagonal.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that that sounds like a good compromise. Always just off,

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Speaker 4: you know, are there at some point they're supposed to

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Speaker 4: face forward, I guess. But I'm about to sunder now.

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Speaker 4: I just like, oh, yeah, we got about to say

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's all. It's all.

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Speaker 4: Don't be looking at it at.

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Speaker 3: Some point of rotation. Yeah, don't look right at me.

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Speaker 3: It makes me uncomfortable. I want to see me driving.

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Speaker 3: I'm not always watching the road. So so he's pointing

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Speaker 3: at this, you know, poster or whatever that says there's

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Speaker 3: a museum exhibit artist named Keith Herring.

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Speaker 4: I go like, like, it seems like a little fish.

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Speaker 3: Like a sting, a little fishy to me. Yeah, something

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Speaker 4: Go chief Keith dad mode.

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Speaker 3: And teach a little lesson. Well, Keith Herring's a famous artist.

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Speaker 3: There's a museum the broad What are.

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Speaker 4: You two looking at?

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Speaker 3: What you guys want?

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Speaker 4: What's so interesting?

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Speaker 3: What were they watching? I'm watching the monitors because I'm

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Speaker 3: making a edit of the show What we Need Two

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Speaker 3: people on the monitor.

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Speaker 1: I watched Casey watch the monitors show is a.

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Speaker 4: Year you actually have a like a front row seat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone else has to watch the monitors. You're one

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Speaker 3: of the only people who's ever gonna actually witness people

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Speaker 3: And when I look to you, guys, what I need

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Speaker 3: is not When I look back at my son, I

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Speaker 3: want him diagonal. When I look at you, I actually

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Speaker 3: I can't. We've had engineers in the past. We've been

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Speaker 3: burned before. Okay, we've been a little hurt. When they're

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Speaker 3: staring at a screen like that, the chive is up,

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Speaker 3: they're chiving on. They're not keeping calm, they're actually keeping

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Speaker 4: That's happening right now, right now.

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Speaker 3: Look at those cameras.

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Speaker 4: Now I see what they like about it. Yeah, now

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Speaker 4: I see what all the fun Yeah.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's it's don't I don't want to deal

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Speaker 4: He wants So he's like, and now he's suddenly obsessed

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Speaker 4: with the Keith Herring Museum, and he wants to know

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Speaker 4: what that well, what he is.

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Speaker 3: He's asking me about the museum, and I go and

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Speaker 3: I say, and then go dad Moon, I say, this

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Speaker 3: is famous artist. He actually has a particular style. And

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Speaker 3: and of course my son has done art. I encourage

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Speaker 3: he has this particular style that actually some of your

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Speaker 3: these shapes. And I have an example. And this is

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Speaker 3: not as good as keithing. I know it's not as

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Speaker 3: I say, you'll fill the paper up with all these shapes. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And I say he does that. Sometimes he draws these

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Speaker 3: sort of rudimentary people and animals. And then he also,

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Speaker 3: I said, he'll fill it up with squiggles where it

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Speaker 3: almost looks like a you know, like a staircase filling

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Speaker 3: the page. And then my son says this to me,

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Speaker 3: I swear to you, have you ever even seen stairs?

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Speaker 3: I say yes. He says, they don't look like squiggles.

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Speaker 3: I go, no, okay, Sometimes he does squiggles. Sometimes he

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Speaker 3: does these kind of diagonalize it's like a step looks

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Speaker 3: like step. I go, I've seen stairs, and then I

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Speaker 3: can't with it. At the moment I go, I've actually

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Speaker 3: seen way more stairs than you have. He says no.

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Speaker 3: He gets mad. He says, no you haven't. I say,

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Speaker 3: I grew up in a house with stairs. Real quiet

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Speaker 3: for a minute, No you didn't. At this point, I

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Speaker 3: can't talk to him anymore. He's not engaged with the

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Speaker 3: museum idea or any of the things I'm teaching at all.

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Speaker 4: You're refusing their hand. I'm good, I'm good.

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Speaker 4: Thank you? So fifty of my daily vitamin C in

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Speaker 3: Well anyway you think, you probably think as I did

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Speaker 4: Just financially? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Right, Like, what is this shit gonna be? What the fuck?

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Speaker 5: Is it like a new one?

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Speaker 7: Is the new ones? I have to pay the people

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Speaker 7: with them if I can. Artists, when you artists like

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Speaker 3: Art, stop it, stop it. First, it's like this is

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Speaker 4: Right like five seconds in, I'm just like, what the

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Speaker 7: On?

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Speaker 4: Like what is he on?

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Speaker 3: So what's happened? Like what's happening?

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Speaker 4: Just like from the beginning. Okay, so your number one

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Speaker 4: It's so Jersey to make And it's like, what the

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Speaker 4: fuck do you mean? And then he does walk it

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Speaker 3: But is this not this city Hayes where it's kart

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Speaker 3: I need to improve my craft to the point where

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Speaker 4: And notice that it's always famous art, always famous good art,

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Speaker 4: never never even what if it's just art? What if

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Speaker 4: art for art's sake?

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Speaker 3: What if art's not a what if it's not you.

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Speaker 4: Know, famous art? What you just heard yesterday?

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Speaker 3: Oh you just found out. Daddy just told you about

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but yes. The tone is so condescending. I

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Speaker 3: I'm the one who introduced the idea. You what if

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Speaker 3: This isn't you know? This is a popular there's a

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, he's gonna tell you not to

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Speaker 4: bother stay stay over here. I was as far as he.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't here.

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Speaker 4: The only like, like the person who told you about

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah, I'm so sorry. I bothered you yesterday

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Speaker 3: when I fucking taught you everything you know about what

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Speaker 3: removed money and fame, I'm pretty sure you'd lose interest

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Speaker 4: I was, yeah, I was even as I'm hearing this,

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Speaker 3: This is this is an old one. This he didn't

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Speaker 7: The new people are.

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Speaker 5: So what are you doing right now? You're just making

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Speaker 5: art and then the art has to become famous so

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Speaker 5: you could be in the museum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it's like.

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Speaker 7: Garden stuff. They're gonna be there and to like say, okay,

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Speaker 3: Are gonna make your okay, stop stop it. I don't

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Speaker 3: fucking walled garden, right of like art. Oh you know

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Speaker 3: on the poster, by the way, on the keep hearing poster,

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Speaker 3: it says art is for everyone. That is literally what

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Speaker 4: Okay, and he goes, how about that, But what if

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Speaker 4: we had a bunch of fucking jack boots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What if what if we had a bunch of armed

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Speaker 4: that's that's a big part of it for him.

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Speaker 3: What if we militarize the museum and we we have

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Speaker 3: who's allowed to see the art and who's a bad guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he means when he's a bad guy,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want I did not press on that

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Speaker 3: because I don't know how that reflects on me. Because

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Speaker 3: he's saying bad guys. He's saying he's gonna pay the guards.

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Speaker 3: The artist is paying the guards. You're not the artist anymore.

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Speaker 3: You're now like this employer and this owner, you're you're

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean what it is is about the whole

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Speaker 4: like financial operation, like it has nothing to do. Once again,

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Speaker 4: there is no art. No we've established that, Like.

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Speaker 3: The art's out there, the artists, you have puzzle, you.

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Speaker 4: Have not created shit, but we're already like we're going

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Speaker 3: It's like if I came up with ticket prices for

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 3: And you know we haven't shot a single frame of it.

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Speaker 3: But it's like, how much should I charge for the tickets?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: And who should be allowed to see it and who shouldn't?

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Speaker 3: And what should happen to people who aren't allowed to

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Speaker 3: see it? Should they be physically punished by my little

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Speaker 3: private army? I think? So Jesus play it people.

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Speaker 7: I need to make a semis.

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Speaker 5: Or Okay, do you need anything from me right now? No?

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Speaker 4: Just wasting your time to you?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, but when I'm done, you can.

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Speaker 4: Talk to me. Yeah yeah, oh you sure?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 7: To be sacked?

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Speaker 3: Can stop it? Stop then fucking go right when I'm done?

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Speaker 3: So no, no, he interrupted me, I don't. And then

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Speaker 3: it's and then it's like, when I'm done, you can

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Speaker 3: talk to me. Oh, thank you so much. I'm your dad.

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Speaker 3: I taught you about this. You live in my fucking house.

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Speaker 3: You're bothering me. Okay, uh, but you're not gonna forget

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Speaker 3: so much. I can't share in the profits, by the way,

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Speaker 3: that's not mentioned.

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Speaker 4: And I'm also just like, okay, there's this like big

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Speaker 4: do whatever it is you need to do.

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Speaker 3: I felt the same way, says what are you still

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Speaker 3: doing here? We will you hear me? Ask? I go,

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Speaker 3: do you need anything from me?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: All right, all right? What's he doing? His hands like

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Speaker 3: going into his pockets even itch so then so then

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Speaker 3: this is quick, but he says, he goes, He says,

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Speaker 3: you can talk to me afterwards, and then as a

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Speaker 3: doing the art, no love, no care, no like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know how long it will take. I need to

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Speaker 3: be inspired this out, just knocking it out, fucking making

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Speaker 3: widgets at the widget factory.

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Speaker 4: Yes, tack it up on the wall, rolling a bunch

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Speaker 4: of tanks, a big like barbed wire around it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, stick it up there, tape in a glue stick

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Speaker 3: and throw up whatever bullshit I came up with today.

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Speaker 3: Who cares? Yeah, and then fucking put a laser beam

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Speaker 3: in front of the doorway, slicing half anybody who I

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Speaker 3: don't like the look of forget it, play it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: thanks for telling me.

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Speaker 7: All right, Yeah, that's all I had to say.

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Speaker 8: All Right, I'm also starting.

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Speaker 3: Okay, stop it.

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Speaker 4: This is so typical. This is no one's special art

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Speaker 4: slash producer, slash director, fucking famous artist slash beetlehouse architect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I'm also starting a First of all, no,

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00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: you don't need anything from me. Don't bother you. That's

440
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: all you had to say.

441
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: Also, here's a completely new conversation that I'm about to initiate. Again,

442
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 4: don't bother me. Uh huh, don't bother me.

443
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 3: And it's such a like it's a it's a forced

444
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: scarcity of resources, right, it's controlling the supply so that

445
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: it's like.

446
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 8: Oh, well, would I be allowed to participate in the

447
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 8: beetle house? Could I get in on this? Like you

448
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 8: know that's what he wants. I'm not going to give

449
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,199
Speaker 8: it to him, but it's so clear that it's like,

450
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 8: oh shit, he can't ask the museum.

451
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 3: Thing is saled. But I also might start a beetle

452
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: house would you want in on the ground.

453
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: I actually think he wants you to ask so he

454
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 4: can say no, right and like effectively like, but at

455
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: some point I have a guard, shoot you, kill you.

456
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 3: At some point someone has to fund the beetle, like

457
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: this is what I've learned. Oh yeah, he doesn't because

458
00:24:48,960 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 3: he doesn't have, in his opinion, enough containers.

459
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 7: Oh maybe you like like something I could not do.

460
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 4: Can you bring this to me when it's a little

461
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 4: more built out, like if at all? Like once again,

462
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 4: like you say you don't want to be bothered, I

463
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: think i'd rather hear about this. Would you actually know

464
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 4: what the fuck you're gonna do?

465
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: Right?

466
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: It's because it honestly sounds like you are.

467
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: He's standing far away. It's like you're trying to leave.

468
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: But like, then just leave, I don't know, I mean, yeah,

469
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: and and keep going because there's something else fucked up

470
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: that happens as he's transitioned. I'll tell you, yeah, to

471
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: new a new topic. Okay, something scary mm hm.

472
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 7: They can swallow the buildings. Then when you're just like

473
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 7: your people going, the monsters don't move. The scary stuff

474
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 7: will move. But when they're that guy, scary stuff could

475
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 7: scare them away.

476
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 3: Oh that's smart.

477
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 4: Did we learn I don't know.

478
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 7: But maybe all right, it could be a big monster.

479
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 5: Well, I mean to scare them away from the Beatles

480
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 5: or the art.

481
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: The pause, okay, Like so I'm an asshole, like you

482
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: brought up the Beetle House. He says, I might start

483
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: a Beatle house.

484
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: Okay.

485
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: Cool. Then he's like, I don't know if I'm going

486
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: to do this or not. We've we were on Beetle

487
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 3: House or I don't know if I'm gonna do this

488
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: or not, but maybe there could be something scary to

489
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: stop them from coming inside the bad guys. Again, we're

490
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 3: back to the back well.

491
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: And then he says, so regular people can go in, Okay,

492
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: regular people.

493
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: I wonder if the regular people look a lot like you.

494
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: So there's like there's that issue. And then and then

495
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: we've somehow switched off of Beetlehouse back to Art. And

496
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm supposed to know that I'm a fucking asshole, right

497
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: because I said, like, sorry, the scary stuff is protecting

498
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: the Beatles.

499
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 4: The people going in, and as like I thought we

500
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: were talking about Beetlehouse.

501
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: But basically he says, yeah, I'm like people going to

502
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 3: the Beetle House. But I'm like, maybe it's a beatle,

503
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: you know, a display of the Beetle House. But then

504
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: it's like, what I'm realizing too, is he's worried about

505
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: having to pay the guards. He first brought up needing

506
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 3: money to pay the guards, and he's going, can I

507
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: somehow essentially use AI instead of paying labor and having

508
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: to deal with employees? Can I just make something scary,

509
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 3: like a monster or a ghost.

510
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 4: That's now I don't need a guard back and forth.

511
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: So we're using it. It seems like facial surveillance. We're

512
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: using it. We're using an algorithm that well determine whether

513
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 4: the monster or ghost slides into place.

514
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: I'm sure that filter won't have any problematic biases. The

515
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 3: one that's deciding who's a bag, Oh no, it's totally

516
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: a jet.

517
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 4: That's just yeah.

518
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: But and then play it because it gets yeah.

519
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, like they could be a monster.

520
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 3: Okay, stop it. The monster needs wheels.

521
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 4: Okay. I was gonna say, like, what is what is

522
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: he saying?

523
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there could be monster things? First he said monster

524
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: or ghost. Now I guess we're settled on monster. Decision

525
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: has been made. Congratulations, there could be monster things. But

526
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: the monster would need wheels, and he's pointing at his feet.

527
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 3: Those aren't wheels.

528
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess that's where they'd be. I guess

529
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 4: they would be in that like general, I mean, if

530
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 4: it's like a humanoid monster like, they would be in

531
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 4: that direction. But just like number one, why are you

532
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: still fucking talking to me about this? Yeah, like you

533
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 4: said minutes ago, now, but you're going to leave. The

534
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 4: whole premise of the conversation is that you don't want

535
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 4: to be bothered.

536
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 3: Drawing me in further, and you do. Yes, he needs

537
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: because he's desperate for me to validate these ideas that

538
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: are completely half baked, completely you know, uh, just underconsidered.

539
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 3: And so like now, the monster will need wheels. And

540
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: this is the only thing I will say having watched this,

541
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: he does provide a physical approximation of what it will

542
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: look like when the wheels are activated on the monster. Yeah,

543
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 3: and I think he may be onto something.

544
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 4: Okay, let me say.

545
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 7: It will it will move? He does, will keep closing.

546
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 7: They kind of move their teeth and put tend to

547
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 7: eat the bag guy.

548
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 3: Okay, pause it. So I do like the way that

549
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: the monster sort of spreads its arms out and like

550
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: shuffles to the side. And then when it when when

551
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 3: the bad guys come who aren't allowed in which I

552
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: don't know that we should even have that technology that

553
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: they keep closed, and he sort of closes his hands

554
00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 3: in prayer hands. Then a new element is added. We've

555
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 3: lost the armed guards. The teeth could move and pretend

556
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: to eat the bad guys. Well for whose benefit? For

557
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 3: who's benefit? Who's seeing who is witnessing this? If the

558
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: bad guys are not actually getting eaten, I don't believe

559
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: it's deterrent. Is it just for me right the general

560
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: public to stay afraid? Oh, I'd better not do anything

561
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 3: like what the bad guys are doing, right, because then

562
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: that'll be me.

563
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: And it's just our culture's like insatiable demand that others

564
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 4: be punished so we can feel validated. If we see

565
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: someone else pretend to get eaten by the monster like that,

566
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: that puts us. We just need an example of like

567
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 4: someone who has is beneath us in that way, right,

568
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: all the monsters slid out for me?

569
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: And does it not feel like he's hedging a little

570
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: bit by going like and the teeth will move and

571
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: then and there's just this micros don't know if he's

572
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: gonna do this microscopic pause.

573
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 6: You're not.

574
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: He goes pretend to eat the bad guys. It's like

575
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: you were going to say it'll eat the back. You

576
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: were going to say that, and then you just shift

577
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: to and it will be pretend.

578
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: Don't worry once all the money is spent or whatever.

579
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, we couldn't actually figure out how to

580
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: make it pretend, so we're just gonna go ahead and

581
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 3: have it eat the back guys, go back to sleep America. Okay,

582
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: finish the video.

583
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: That's good.

584
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's gone.

585
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 4: Towards not in a direction. We're just like, I know

586
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: the layout back here, what's over there?

587
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm certainly not certainly not an arts.

588
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: That's not where you had when you're like actually trying

589
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: to get something done.

590
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: No, no, and I will own you know, I sort

591
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: of shocked throughout this exchange. I am complicit, you know,

592
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: I do hear when.

593
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: Idea and there's no judgment on like your reaction in

594
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 4: this What am I supposed to do? What are you

595
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 4: supposed to do.

596
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: In that moment? Like just engaging and being I mean

597
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: you heard what happened with the stairs thing, Like he's

598
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: so combative, Like I don't think I could have necessarily

599
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 3: dissuaded him. And it's like I don't know if I'm

600
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: going to do this or not. It's like, well, I

601
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: hope you don't. I hope you don't.

602
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: It's I mean, the only positive of this is this

603
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 4: ship is never going to happen. He is like he

604
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: is not going to do one thing. Like what it's

605
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 4: like a day later now, right, haven't seen them?

606
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: Are not mentioned the museum, No guard interviews have taken place.

607
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: There's nothing scary, no monster ghosts. I haven't even seen

608
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 3: a wheel like loose in the house that could be applied.

609
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: And this is just like how we need to genrefy

610
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 4: all of our work now. So it's just like, Okay,

611
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: what's the only fucking thing that's like making money that like,

612
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: let's do it like these horror movies. Okay, let's do

613
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: a lot. Let's like do a whole fucking gearmo del

614
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 4: Toro exhibited LACMA. Let's like like have Tim Burton travel

615
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: around the country, have.

616
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 3: Some wheels on those monsters.

617
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 4: The fucking Great Art Museum.

618
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: Hands with eyes on it from Pans Labyrinth, just on

619
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: a wheel rolling around. Unless you're a bad guy than

620
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: that case, the fucking pretends to eat you. Yeah, I

621
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: don't know.

622
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: The guards will clean up the drool. Maybe this exhibit

623
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: fucking suck. Except it will never happen.

624
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it won't even happen.

625
00:33:53,480 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: Can take that down all the downtown down, down, down more,

626
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: just turn off everyone. A little bit of a special

627
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 4: episode today. So this is this is a comedy show,

628
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 4: of course, like we uh, we we have a lot

629
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 4: of fun on the show, but it's it's also a

630
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 4: place where we have really come to like build relationships

631
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 4: with the people who who we were, who we've worked

632
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 4: with both here at Headgum of course UH and at

633
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 4: Earwolf before that, all along this uh, this journey of

634
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 4: almost ten years that we've been on UH, and there

635
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: are times when people in this community that we've built

636
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 4: really need our support. And today is about that. There's

637
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: someone who we really love who has been through something

638
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 4: and and that needs us right now and we've he's

639
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: here to talk about it today, what the experience was like,

640
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 4: what the recovery has been like, and.

641
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: And I want to apologize. I want to apologize because

642
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: I wanted to be there for our friend, and I

643
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: wasn't strong enough. I wasn't I wasn't strong enough to

644
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 3: go and see be face to face with this kind

645
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 3: of trauma. And I feel like a coward and I

646
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: feel weak, and I'm ashamed, and yet I know what

647
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 3: I needed for me. I couldn't walk in. I drove

648
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: to the building today and I put my hand on

649
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: the door and I started shaking, like quivering, and I

650
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: just knew that physically I wasn't gonna be there. And

651
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 3: when you have this strong of a connection to someone

652
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: and and a love for them, their pain is your pain.

653
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: And I have to own the fact that it wasn't brave,

654
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: but it was.

655
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 4: But it was. It is so brave of you to

656
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: share that uh and to and to give yourself what

657
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: you need in that way, and just to be strong enough.

658
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 4: I have had to sort of disconnect from it, like

659
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 4: to do this, I have to kind of like shut

660
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 4: it off.

661
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: I don't even recognize you. Yeah, so I don't even

662
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: recognize you. You you are you are a cyborg right now.

663
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: But it's about it is about suit. It is about

664
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 4: getting through this to someone had the person that UH

665
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: and I'll sort of lay out what happened, engineered Devin

666
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 4: at bafflegabs on on x put Out. He released a

667
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: post a few days ago announcing I guess, confirming that

668
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 4: he had cut his head open on the sneeze guard

669
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 4: of the grocery store hot Bart, and he shared an

670
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 4: image of the of the aftermath of trigger warning.

671
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 3: If we're gonna put the image up, like I do

672
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: want to say, like if people are watching on video

673
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 3: and we're gonna show the image, which I understand why

674
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: you would to fulfill the sort of responsibility of the

675
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: audience and the narrative here, but I just want to say,

676
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: like when I saw it, it was very intense. I

677
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 3: dropped my phone in the toilet and flushed a few times,

678
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 3: like kept hitting flush because I was I wanted the

679
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: picture to go away. And I don't think that I'm

680
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: completely out of line, because I do. For also people

681
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 3: who are just on audio, I do want to complete

682
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 3: the the picture. It's not just that he had a wound.

683
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 3: There's a little scratch or something. He's bandaged up, and

684
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: he genuinely looks like fucking Rimmer from Red Dwarf.

685
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 4: Which is a comparison he made in the post. No,

686
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 4: the post said it.

687
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 3: That's why I'm comfortable say, because as I saw it

688
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: and I went, Jesus Christ, is that fucking Rimmor from

689
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 3: Red Dwarf? Tell me that's not Rimmor from Red Dwarf?

690
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: What is he doing on Engineer Devon's feed at bafflegabs

691
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: on X. And then I, uh, kind of like my

692
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: brain wrapped itself around what I was seeing. And of

693
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 3: course it wasn't Rimmor from Red Dwarf. It was Devon,

694
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: but he fucking looked like that.

695
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: And are we are we able to put up the

696
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: posts on the on the video feed because I think

697
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 4: it's actually like it's important to see the posts. Great,

698
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: thank you? Uh, And there it is. I somehow managed

699
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: to cut my forehead open on the sneeze guard at

700
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 4: the grocery store. Hot bar. Now I look like fucking

701
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: Rimmor from Red Dwarf, very smooth. And there's of course

702
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: that you're Devin at Baffle gabs on X on the left,

703
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 4: and that is him on the left.

704
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, And I think you have to see the image.

705
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: He's the one on the left.

706
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: It's important to see this because like even just that

707
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: was September nineteenth, and I want to hear more about

708
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: like the was that the actual day or did you

709
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: need a few days to put this post together? And

710
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: then today two days later September twenty First, we have

711
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: engineered Devin here. As we can see, the bandage is

712
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: much smaller than the one that you were originally given.

713
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: Given yes, yes, at the grocery store. Okay, so handed

714
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: to me there that bandage.

715
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 3: Well, they had to protect their product. I mean you

716
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: were bleeding all over the food, all over the yams

717
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: and all over the salad barr.

718
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: Okay, So let this is I really want to get

719
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 4: into the details for other people that have had this

720
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 4: experience or potentially like need to be aware of that

721
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: this can actually happen to anyone. If this could happen

722
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: to Ed, dear Devin, the last person I would have

723
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: I would have guessed, Yes.

724
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: You walk around thinking you're invincible and that you can

725
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: just go and like get a cup of soup or

726
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: something at the store, and that you're never going to

727
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: cut your head on the sneeze guard and be left

728
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 3: looking like fucking red door. Like you you literally the

729
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: arrogance that I myself had yeah to be because I've

730
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 3: you know, I've gone to the grocery store and gotten

731
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: I've been right next to the sneeze guard, no helmet,

732
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: and and just thought that I'm like entitled to not

733
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: look like fucking rimmor from Red Dwarf like that, I

734
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: that that's like just an inherent right. And when I

735
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: see someone who I know is responsible, who I know

736
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 3: is a little bit of an athlete, right and and

737
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: and not prone to sort of physical mishaps. Now head

738
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: on a swivel all the time, mm hmmm, yeah, and

739
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: maybe swiveled a little too hard right in the sneeze

740
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: guard this time.

741
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: And this is what we're finding out.

742
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 3: And it and and in my head, I think just

743
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 3: because of the phrasing, and we haven't been able to

744
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: sort of dissect this. And I, of course you called

745
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: me to talk to me about it when it happened,

746
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: and I and I hung up the phone because I

747
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: was too upset, but.

748
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: And I was just busy.

749
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: But and then I did, I you know, I obviously

750
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: felt guilty, and I drove to the hospital and they said,

751
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: of course that you didn't you didn't go to I

752
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 3: didn't and go no, yeah, but what I wanted.

753
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 4: On site field medicine back.

754
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: I know at one point they took out they took

755
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: out the morphine.

756
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 4: To just I have would just be bela's.

757
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: Just yeah, to just ease your journey.

758
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 4: So are you able to name the store?

759
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: The store? Okay, yes, yes, yes, it's a it's a

760
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: new natural market, Lazy Acres.

761
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: That's the one wowe new Lazy promoted around town.

762
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 2: That we're saying promoted around town and promoted as safe.

763
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it has one of their men to open all

764
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: the protections were in place, wowkers, holy smoke.

765
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 3: Well and guard it's the sneeze guards.

766
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, obviously the sneeze guard is guarding us against.

767
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: The sneeze but who will protect us from the guard itself.

768
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: It's a police state inside Lazy Acres where these sneeze

769
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: guards are mad with power and just free to, you know,

770
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: use extreme force against any of the customers. And it's

771
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 3: like who endowed them with this incredible amount of authority.

772
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: But what I wanted to say is when I read it,

773
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 3: just in my head, I think because of the name,

774
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 3: my first thought was that you were leading over and

775
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: that you then sneezed so hard it.

776
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 6: Jolted your jilted your head into the guard like that,

777
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 6: because I thought that would make create a violent thrust

778
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 6: of your your head. And in that sense, like the

779
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 6: knee guard was doing its job. But I think also

780
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 6: maybe misunderstood that all it has to do is keep

781
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 6: the debris from your nose from reaching the food. It

782
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 6: doesn't have to also subdue you physically.

783
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: So you enter Lazy Acres. Is the plan to get

784
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: lunch at Lazy Acres?

785
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: Okay, you're get up the hot bar, gonna go.

786
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: Straight to the hot bar. This is your first visit.

787
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 2: I actually tried to go to the juice and I've

788
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: been thinking about this a lot. There's a juice stand

789
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 2: there with like a big old immunity, a green juice,

790
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: this sort of thing. But there was a lady who

791
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: was really taking your time.

792
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: Looking at all about If you had only it would

793
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: have been every detail, the physical protection of the juice.

794
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 3: You know, micro protect, micro decisions that we make, and

795
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 3: just every it's sliding doors, right, it's.

796
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: Got cayenne in it, so you wouldn't have gotten cut

797
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: the same way.

798
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: Oh my god, well that clots your blood up. I mean,

799
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: even if you got the cut, it would have immediately.

800
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: There's ginger in there too, so so you instead you're

801
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: redirected to the hoot bar.

802
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: I'm walking around. There's a couple of people there, and

803
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: you know, they're kind of getting their thing. I'm kind

804
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: of scoping it out, seeing that there's mashed potatoes today, okay,

805
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: you know, and they've got they've got the garlic chicken. Okay.

806
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I think that's where I'm heading, the garlic chicken.

807
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: So you do a wap.

808
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

809
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 3: Can I just say what I hear in your voice

810
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: a little bit as you tell this, and it's obviously

811
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: it's become a story for you, which I think is good.

812
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: Like it's no longer this thing you have to relive

813
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: every time, that's right. But what I hear there's some

814
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: self deprecating tone, but there's also a little bit of

815
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 3: blame that you place on yourself, even mentioning juice that

816
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: that it's like I know that it's somehow your fault.

817
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: And uh, I want to say today from over here,

818
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 3: I can't be there with you. I just wasn't strong enough,

819
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 3: not strong enough. I want to say, it's not it's not.

820
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

821
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: That means a lot, thank you. It's not your it's

822
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you Devin, it's not your fault.

823
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: It's not your fault.

824
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: We'll tell the rest of the story. It might be

825
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 3: your fault. It might be going to the garlic, Yeah,

826
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: scoping it out, and then I see the lime broccoli.

827
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's that's step one. Whatever the protein is

828
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm getting, we're doing lime broccoli. So I'm over there

829
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 3: at the corner. The lime BROCCOLI's right on the edge

830
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: of the sneeze guard. Got the little tub.

831
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: I reached down to get the plastic lid for the tub,

832
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: just because I need. I want to have it, because

833
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go that way where they don't have it.

834
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the rest of whatever. I bend down

835
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 2: to get it, stand up, slice my head open that

836
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 2: quick in an instant, and.

837
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 4: You get it. You put your head all the way underneath.

838
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 2: The plastic tops are under the sneeze guard, so you

839
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 2: have to can't even where.

840
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: Under there into the bar mm hmm. And then on

841
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: your way back out you're just sort.

842
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: Of I didn't realize how far the whole the sneeze

843
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: guard goes so far out that when you get a

844
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: little bit under, you sort of like, oh, I must

845
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: be I must be clear here, and I just wasn't.

846
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: And and let me say this, I had bunked my

847
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: head on that same sneeze.

848
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: Guard on the way down two weeks.

849
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: Previous, two weeks previous, on the way up again, same

850
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: same thing. On that occasion. It was just a light bunk.

851
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: On this occasion, I stand up and I go, oh,

852
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: that that hurt a little bit more than just a

853
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: straight bonk.

854
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 4: But do you know what that I established you had,

855
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 4: I know what a bunk had already bought it.

856
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 3: On the exact same sneeze guarden, the same spot, doing

857
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: the same thing.

858
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: I had had Box Adventure, And so I stand, I

859
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: stand up.

860
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 4: Kind of should I do? Want to just say, like

861
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: I I can tell that Box Adventure is a reference

862
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 4: to something, and.

863
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: Like I like I thought that would get some take.

864
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 4: Up and like Rimmor from Red Dwarf. Yeah, I'm just

865
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: wondering if I'm used to you referencing things like cultural

866
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 4: things that like everyone really understands and like cool stuff.

867
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

868
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: Box Adventure was cool? You remember the turbographics six I.

869
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: Know, I I hate it. I don't want to sell out.

870
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: I vividly remember Box.

871
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: Okay, that's good to know because I just want to

872
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: make sure that like everything is okay.

873
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 6: Just.

874
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:09,280
Speaker 2: Things that never get it is something real. Box Revenge

875
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,479
Speaker 2: was good too, the sequel, and that is much more

876
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: like what happened the second.

877
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: Time Box Revenge. Yeah, that does sound right. And when

878
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 3: I went uh to college, there was a student there

879
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: who I think didn't have a lot of experience with

880
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 3: drinking and and fell out of the top bunk twice

881
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: and hit their head both times and that was behind

882
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 3: their back, referred to as bonk for the rest of

883
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: the year ten Box Revenge. So uh, I want to

884
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 3: I do want to say that, like hearing this, yeah,

885
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: tail did inspire me, you know, to do some research

886
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 3: on Lazy Acres and just sort of who owned it

887
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 3: and who had designed it, because it felt like maybe

888
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 3: something untoward was going on. And it is in fact

889
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 3: managed by Shell Corporation. That is that is actually the

890
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 3: primary investor is Jigsaw from the song. So you think

891
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: about where they place these lids and where the.

892
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Guard is, it starts to make a kind of you

893
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: and how quickly they brought the rimmer from Red Dwarf band.

894
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: Aid out like all of this is designed, like none

895
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: of this is an accident.

896
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 4: It was such a big band aid, and that they've

897
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 4: been able to watch your behavior and your greed and

898
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: deliver a punishment. So specifically tailors.

899
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: Tailors to loving garlic, chicken. Yeah, the line broccoli too.

900
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: They know that's my achilles?

901
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 4: Can I ask? I mean, as we start to get

902
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: into the liability conversation, is this a is this this

903
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 4: is a transparent sneeze guard?

904
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 2: It is transparent? Okay, yes, Now I want to I

905
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 2: want to describe that there are two planes of the

906
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 2: sneeze guard. Right, there's kind of the front facing plane

907
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: for this side, and then that side's got a plane,

908
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: and there's a little gap between the two. Right at

909
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: the at the edge of those gaps is where I

910
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: sliced my head open. And I'll tell you when I

911
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 2: stood up and I touched the side of it, I

912
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 2: was like, that's fucking sharp. Okay, yeah, that this is

913
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 2: the one bit I will be angry.

914
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 3: Okay, people, it was sharp, okay.

915
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: And here's a great detail. After after they gave me

916
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: the bandage, they're sort of, are you okay? I'm like,

917
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 2: can I just is there I haven't been to their restroom?

918
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 2: Is there a restroom round? I can just go clean

919
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: the blood off of my arms because I was covered

920
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 2: in blood. It felt like a bonk. It bled so much,

921
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 2: it bled so much. And I'm standing in a grocery

922
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 2: store with their napkins on my head asking for some assistants.

923
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 2: They send me the bathroom. I'm cleaning up. A guy

924
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: comes over. He goes, what the hell happened? Man? And

925
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,439
Speaker 2: I noticed he's in you know what, he works there.

926
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: And I go, I stood up and I cut my

927
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: head open on the sneeze guard at the hot bar.

928
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: And he kind of looks at me for a second

929
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 2: and he goes, you know, I believe you. And I was like, well, yeah,

930
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: it happened, and he goes, no, well look and he

931
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: shows me he's got a giant scar on the side

932
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: of his arm. He goes, that's from the sneeze guard

933
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: when we were installing it. So this is why I'm

934
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: comfortable calling out of the name, because someone there knew

935
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: that that was way too sharp. We cut one of

936
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: our employees. Well, let's not fix it. Surely won't be

937
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: an issue again. No one wants the delicious lime broccoli

938
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: at the Hot bar at the very least unbelievable the

939
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: sneeze guard.

940
00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 4: Needs to be heavily, heavily frosted. It really needs to

941
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 4: be tinted, frosted, frosted.

942
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: It needs frosted tips, it definitely does.

943
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 4: If simultaneously, that'll accomplish two things at once, increase the

944
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 4: visibility of the of the sneeze guard and also reduce

945
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 4: the attractiveness of the foods underneath. Just make it a

946
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 4: little less vivid, so people aren't plunging the hang back

947
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 4: there into the bar to secure the.

948
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: Lid, because once you go past that sort of event horizon,

949
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: you are likely.

950
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: So you were planning head thinking I will be needing

951
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: a lid for.

952
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: Once I get to the other end of the bar

953
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: and get my you know, chicken potatoes, whatever I was

954
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: going to be because rockfish is good.

955
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 4: Because you were gonna be taking this home, or you

956
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 4: did say I noticed you said earlier I hadn't gone

957
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: to the bathroom yet, implying that you were going to

958
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 4: take your food into the BA. Yeah, it's very strongly

959
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 4: implied that your intention was that.

960
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: It was to get all the food, go into the bathroom,

961
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 3: show down, come back out, and then just buy like

962
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: a drink or something. Because you gad guilty that you

963
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: ate all their hot our food in the bathroom.

964
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: And what I heard from your like, you know, obviously

965
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: this has gotten out in the world and we've seen

966
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 4: different coverage of it, and apparently a journalist spoke to

967
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: an employee there where you had said that you were

968
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: planning on dining in and they said there are no

969
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 4: seats and you said, yes, there are.

970
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: Devin, Can I ask, like I just because I'm obviously

971
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: not in the room with you, right, what I'm seeing

972
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: is that what I hope I'm seeing accurately is that

973
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 3: you have an r M T shirt under a Blur sweatshirt.

974
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: That is correct, That's right, Okay, do nineties.

975
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 3: Can I just say this is such a relief to

976
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: me because I know initially the medical team on site

977
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 3: was worried that the location of the wound could have

978
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 3: actually impacted the part of your brain that loves sound

979
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: and I and that was, you know, an element of

980
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 3: me being unable to walk in because I just thought,

981
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: what if, mister sound loving.

982
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 2: Man, what if I don't even care anymore.

983
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 3: Shows up an only like sound or I don't even

984
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: want to talk about what else But the fact that

985
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 3: and I know your wardrobe is your wardrobe. You wouldn't

986
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: have had time to replace it, but it feels like

987
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 3: it was put on with attention.

988
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: Especially almost I almost worry that it's a performance. This is.

989
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: Going through the motions, but.

990
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 4: Really needs to create the impression that he does all

991
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 4: these bands.

992
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love these bands, love music. I should

993
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: point out I should point out this is actually an

994
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 2: are you talking are em re me shirt? So it's

995
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: not just it's like it's music, but also.

996
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: Podcasts, but also podcasts talking about different kind of sound.

997
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I still love it. Hasn't it didn't get

998
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 2: that parts?

999
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 4: What's the plan? Will we be returning? Uh? Is like?

1000
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 4: What what did they have to do to win back

1001
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: your business? Or is it important to you to show

1002
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 4: that you can go to the grocery store again to.

1003
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: Have your lunch and not get hurt.

1004
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 4: Yes, and like and and go through the complete process

1005
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 4: from the hot bar to the checkout to the bathroom

1006
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: exactly two. The bus that has brought you there with

1007
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 4: the other people from where you live.

1008
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: I hope to be able to build up that confidence

1009
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: soon to go back in there. I can't, I can't lie.

1010
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: The hot bar is really good it's really good. The

1011
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: good stuff at the hot bar, the mac and cheese

1012
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: is solid, and like I'm gonna have to really have studied.

1013
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows every item.

1014
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 4: I think that, But again, I mean in your brain

1015
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 4: in a way, right, Like what we're talking about is

1016
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 4: trauma right now. And the body keeps the score. And

1017
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 4: according to Devin's body, the vertical scary has one point.

1018
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: I think that's actually the hot bar marking their score. Yeah,

1019
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 3: hop bar one engineered Devin zero. The shame of someone

1020
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: writing their score. They're winning score on your body?

1021
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 4: When so what Yeah? I So my understanding is that

1022
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: Lazy Acres is committed to making change as a result

1023
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 4: of what happened. They will be changing their name to

1024
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 4: Vigilant Acres and they they stand in solidarity with Devin

1025
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 4: at all other victims of these cards.

1026
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 3: I really thought it was beautiful what they put together.

1027
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: You know, there was a whole there was a march

1028
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: through the frozen food aisle, and it was it was

1029
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: really powerful see the way that the community activated around

1030
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 3: this event, because like it's easy to be cynical. Yes,

1031
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 3: in this day and age, it feel like everyone's you know,

1032
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: in their bubble and no one's really worried. But but

1033
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 3: when something happens, especially to someone who had become something

1034
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 3: of a fixture at Lazy Acres, memorizing the hot bar

1035
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 3: in the toilet, you know, and kind of an unofficial mascot,

1036
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: And to know that people didn't just turn their backs,

1037
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 3: but that they were actually so afraid of legal action

1038
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 3: that they did commission a song about you, about you,

1039
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 3: And I like, I want to say, like, I'm proud

1040
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 3: to be a part of yeah, you know this this

1041
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: city because it really was.

1042
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 4: It was a whole, like.

1043
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 3: The culture of Los Angeles and this current moment and

1044
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 3: all of it came into play. Yeah, And and I think.

1045
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 4: That the concept of California.

1046
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 3: Strong, Yeah, yeah, yeah emerged from this. And I think

1047
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: that they are going to put a little plaque up

1048
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 3: in the location that it is now. The engineer Devin

1049
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 3: at Battle gabs on X memorial sneeze Guard, which is

1050
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 3: pretty cool.

1051
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not. I mean, it's nice that so much.

1052
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: I guess you'd say beauty came out of it.

1053
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1054
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: No pleasure without pain, Yes, Red Hot Chili Peppers saying

1055
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: that motherfucker is always spiked with pain, isn't it? Music

1056
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 3: is my aeroplane. Just take me, take me up in

1057
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 3: the sky. Music, bring me to my destination, California.

1058
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: Vacation engineered Devin, Where can we Where can we find you?

1059
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 3: Lazy acres?

1060
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I think they're accepting donations for their legal fun.

1061
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah,