1 00:00:04,404 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,244 --> 00:00:08,244 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:24,324 --> 00:00:26,964 Speaker 2: A few nights ago, my wife and I had our 4 00:00:27,284 --> 00:00:30,004 Speaker 2: spent our free time on the couch watching a little 5 00:00:30,004 --> 00:00:34,724 Speaker 2: motion picture called Holiday Touchdown, A Bill's love story. We 6 00:00:35,204 --> 00:00:38,764 Speaker 2: put on the Bills Hallmark movie. We watched it from 7 00:00:38,884 --> 00:00:42,764 Speaker 2: start to finish. I enjoyed it. There's Dawson Knox sus 8 00:00:42,804 --> 00:00:44,684 Speaker 2: in it. All kinds of bills show up and I 9 00:00:44,724 --> 00:00:49,164 Speaker 2: watched that's Bobby bacal like. I enjoyed it. Here's why 10 00:00:49,164 --> 00:00:51,964 Speaker 2: I bring it up. What's up to mar Hamlin? The 11 00:00:52,044 --> 00:00:54,244 Speaker 2: movie was a lot like the Bills. 12 00:00:54,804 --> 00:00:58,724 Speaker 1: It's like, it's fun, it's charming. 13 00:00:59,524 --> 00:01:03,724 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott is there, and you know how it's gonna 14 00:01:03,884 --> 00:01:07,044 Speaker 2: end in the first five minutes. And I wish I 15 00:01:07,084 --> 00:01:10,924 Speaker 2: could say that's not true, but my word is anxious 16 00:01:11,084 --> 00:01:14,444 Speaker 2: about the Bills. And I think I feel the same 17 00:01:14,444 --> 00:01:16,204 Speaker 2: way as a lot of people in Western New York 18 00:01:16,444 --> 00:01:19,284 Speaker 2: is that we have watched the last four or five 19 00:01:19,364 --> 00:01:22,804 Speaker 2: years of Josh Allen teams. Right now, this doesn't feel 20 00:01:22,844 --> 00:01:25,004 Speaker 2: like one of the special ones. It may be if 21 00:01:25,004 --> 00:01:26,804 Speaker 2: you were to rank the last four teams, this might 22 00:01:26,844 --> 00:01:30,084 Speaker 2: be the fourth and that's really negative. And maybe it'll 23 00:01:30,084 --> 00:01:32,724 Speaker 2: flip because they have that kind of punching power. But 24 00:01:32,844 --> 00:01:35,084 Speaker 2: I would pick up with Cabinda was saying with the 25 00:01:35,124 --> 00:01:37,524 Speaker 2: basketball thing. I look at them as the Chicago and 26 00:01:37,564 --> 00:01:40,764 Speaker 2: it's like they have Jordan and James Cook is Pippin'. 27 00:01:41,484 --> 00:01:44,484 Speaker 2: I don't know who their Rodman is or their Horse Grant, 28 00:01:44,524 --> 00:01:46,084 Speaker 2: or they Ron Harper. I don't know who their Luke 29 00:01:46,124 --> 00:01:48,684 Speaker 2: Longley is. I just don't know if this is a 30 00:01:48,764 --> 00:01:52,604 Speaker 2: team that is going to win three playoff games. And 31 00:01:52,644 --> 00:01:55,084 Speaker 2: this isn't a reality where we don't even think they 32 00:01:55,084 --> 00:01:56,724 Speaker 2: may have to go through the Chiefs when they get there, 33 00:01:56,764 --> 00:01:57,484 Speaker 2: because they're not going. 34 00:01:57,484 --> 00:02:00,684 Speaker 3: To be there. It's just if they turn the corner. 35 00:02:00,764 --> 00:02:03,524 Speaker 2: In terms of a lot of different things outside of Allen. 36 00:02:03,604 --> 00:02:06,724 Speaker 2: The problem is that Allen is such this giant, glowing 37 00:02:06,884 --> 00:02:10,044 Speaker 2: neon object that it takes a lot of the attraction 38 00:02:10,244 --> 00:02:12,684 Speaker 2: from all of the weaknesses in this team. And if 39 00:02:12,684 --> 00:02:15,484 Speaker 2: you've been watching them, if you watch them against Houston, 40 00:02:16,004 --> 00:02:19,564 Speaker 2: they're there. And that's so I'm anxious about this team. 41 00:02:20,124 --> 00:02:21,804 Speaker 2: If you were waiting for, like this is the one 42 00:02:21,844 --> 00:02:24,364 Speaker 2: they finally get over the hump. They're not showing that 43 00:02:24,484 --> 00:02:27,604 Speaker 2: now that this team is special and transcendent, maybe they will, 44 00:02:27,884 --> 00:02:31,364 Speaker 2: but right now I'm anxious that they won't. Let's talk 45 00:02:31,364 --> 00:02:33,524 Speaker 2: about the Texans, because the Texans just held the Coast 46 00:02:33,524 --> 00:02:35,524 Speaker 2: of sixteen points, a week after they held the Buffalo 47 00:02:35,604 --> 00:02:38,764 Speaker 2: Bills to nineteen points. The Texas defense is probably the 48 00:02:38,804 --> 00:02:40,204 Speaker 2: strongest group in the AFC. 49 00:02:40,404 --> 00:02:40,964 Speaker 3: What's better? 50 00:02:41,204 --> 00:02:43,164 Speaker 2: Are you gonna say the Bills offense with Josh Allen? 51 00:02:43,164 --> 00:02:45,684 Speaker 2: I don't know if you say the Bengals offense, They're 52 00:02:45,804 --> 00:02:48,204 Speaker 2: not as relevant as the Texans. Nobody wants to play 53 00:02:48,204 --> 00:02:51,524 Speaker 2: this defense. Nobody wants to try to pass against this defense. 54 00:02:51,684 --> 00:02:54,564 Speaker 2: It's a playoff defense and a playoff pass rush. Remember, guys, 55 00:02:54,604 --> 00:02:56,724 Speaker 2: there's an zero to three team, there's a three to 56 00:02:56,884 --> 00:02:57,604 Speaker 2: five team. 57 00:02:57,804 --> 00:02:59,204 Speaker 3: They are now four in a row. 58 00:02:59,324 --> 00:03:01,204 Speaker 2: And the best part of all is if you think 59 00:03:01,244 --> 00:03:04,284 Speaker 2: they're not getting enough credit or exposure, I will direc 60 00:03:04,524 --> 00:03:07,204 Speaker 2: your eyes to this Sunday night when the Houston Texans 61 00:03:07,444 --> 00:03:11,244 Speaker 2: go to Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday Night, not only going 62 00:03:11,284 --> 00:03:14,084 Speaker 2: against the rainy and AFC champions, No, no, no, no no. 63 00:03:14,644 --> 00:03:18,324 Speaker 2: This is to put a steak into the Chiefs and 64 00:03:18,404 --> 00:03:20,924 Speaker 2: say bye bye. You can sit your starters because you 65 00:03:20,964 --> 00:03:23,564 Speaker 2: are done. You are not making the playoffs. That is 66 00:03:23,604 --> 00:03:26,524 Speaker 2: a massive opportunity for the Texas. Nobody does that's the 67 00:03:26,604 --> 00:03:28,724 Speaker 2: chief Nobody does that to Mahomes. But if they go 68 00:03:28,804 --> 00:03:32,764 Speaker 2: into Arrowhead and hold the Chiefs under twenty points and win, 69 00:03:33,044 --> 00:03:35,004 Speaker 2: the Chiefs are done. We will not talk about anymore 70 00:03:35,084 --> 00:03:38,564 Speaker 2: by out and the Texans are the ones that shovel 71 00:03:38,644 --> 00:03:41,284 Speaker 2: the dirt on them. So, Houston, you're having a month, 72 00:03:41,484 --> 00:03:43,924 Speaker 2: go have a week. It's an incredible time we're in 73 00:03:44,004 --> 00:03:46,124 Speaker 2: right now. Where not in the last week of the season, 74 00:03:46,164 --> 00:03:50,444 Speaker 2: even in week fourteen, the Houston Texans can eulogize the 75 00:03:50,724 --> 00:03:51,764 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs. 76 00:03:51,764 --> 00:03:53,324 Speaker 3: It's a nuts nuts thing to say. 77 00:03:53,164 --> 00:03:54,884 Speaker 2: Out loud, but it's Houston's that good that they can 78 00:03:54,924 --> 00:03:58,724 Speaker 2: do it. This is angry fan bases right now out there. 79 00:03:58,764 --> 00:04:00,324 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, take a quick account. 80 00:04:00,364 --> 00:04:03,364 Speaker 2: Like you have the Chiefs five hundred, but they just 81 00:04:03,444 --> 00:04:05,924 Speaker 2: count there and they have so much success. You have 82 00:04:05,964 --> 00:04:09,204 Speaker 2: the Eagles, who are really upset right now after what happened, 83 00:04:09,204 --> 00:04:11,164 Speaker 2: but they've had a lot of success too. I think 84 00:04:11,204 --> 00:04:13,204 Speaker 2: the most upset fan base right on in the NFL. 85 00:04:13,284 --> 00:04:14,844 Speaker 2: He has this steels and you know why, I know 86 00:04:14,924 --> 00:04:17,524 Speaker 2: this not only will you you understands not only were 87 00:04:17,524 --> 00:04:20,684 Speaker 2: they booing, a lot of teams boom. They started playing 88 00:04:20,844 --> 00:04:22,644 Speaker 2: Renegade last night at the stadium. 89 00:04:22,724 --> 00:04:23,604 Speaker 3: They're song by. 90 00:04:23,524 --> 00:04:29,844 Speaker 2: Styx, and they booed Renegade. They starting, oh Mama, they 91 00:04:29,844 --> 00:04:32,484 Speaker 2: didn't want to hear that. Don't play that nonsense. When 92 00:04:32,524 --> 00:04:35,204 Speaker 2: we can't do it, stop playing it. I'm seeing many 93 00:04:35,244 --> 00:04:37,404 Speaker 2: people online who cover the Steelers for a living who 94 00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:40,364 Speaker 2: say I have never heard Renegade the song. The guys 95 00:04:40,364 --> 00:04:42,684 Speaker 2: from Sticks whoever are still around, fell up their chairs 96 00:04:42,724 --> 00:04:43,364 Speaker 2: getting booed. 97 00:04:43,724 --> 00:04:44,924 Speaker 3: And I found myself in this. 98 00:04:44,924 --> 00:04:48,244 Speaker 2: Game just just watching Rogers, and my god, they put 99 00:04:48,324 --> 00:04:50,484 Speaker 2: him on camera a lot, and I watched him on 100 00:04:50,524 --> 00:04:52,924 Speaker 2: the He's got a damn cast. He's about to turn 101 00:04:53,004 --> 00:04:56,324 Speaker 2: forty two. His noses may be broken, it's bleeding. He 102 00:04:56,364 --> 00:04:59,364 Speaker 2: looks miserable. The beard has never looked grayer. He's taking 103 00:04:59,444 --> 00:05:02,684 Speaker 2: hits from meatheads like Bosa like this. And I've seen 104 00:05:02,724 --> 00:05:05,564 Speaker 2: some suggestion of line about you know what you got 105 00:05:05,604 --> 00:05:08,804 Speaker 2: apparently a big old house in Malibu. You got a 106 00:05:08,804 --> 00:05:11,364 Speaker 2: big old mountain of cash at home. You're gonna go 107 00:05:11,364 --> 00:05:13,644 Speaker 2: on the Hall of Fame five years after you retire, 108 00:05:13,764 --> 00:05:17,284 Speaker 2: Like what are you doing here, And to that, I say, 109 00:05:17,324 --> 00:05:19,964 Speaker 2: I think Rogers lives for this. I'm gonna flip on 110 00:05:19,964 --> 00:05:21,804 Speaker 2: that completely. He knew what was going to, what time 111 00:05:21,844 --> 00:05:24,644 Speaker 2: it was. He's played in a million cold weather games 112 00:05:24,644 --> 00:05:26,364 Speaker 2: where he gets his ass kicked and the team maybe 113 00:05:26,444 --> 00:05:27,124 Speaker 2: is not playing that way. 114 00:05:27,124 --> 00:05:28,484 Speaker 3: He's boot in Green Bay before. 115 00:05:28,644 --> 00:05:31,084 Speaker 2: That's true, and I'm also gonna flip it right now 116 00:05:31,564 --> 00:05:33,884 Speaker 2: on Monday morning, right now, after one of the worst, 117 00:05:34,004 --> 00:05:37,004 Speaker 2: most listless Steelers losses you'll see in this generation. I 118 00:05:37,004 --> 00:05:39,164 Speaker 2: think They're gonna win next week at Baltimore. I do 119 00:05:39,484 --> 00:05:41,444 Speaker 2: because this is how the Steelers were. I love it, 120 00:05:41,564 --> 00:05:44,724 Speaker 2: Kyles how mikeel Doveland ross. You get to six and six, 121 00:05:44,964 --> 00:05:49,124 Speaker 2: all is lost. It's post apocalyptic. Everything that fired this person, 122 00:05:49,204 --> 00:05:52,324 Speaker 2: cut this person, and like that, they find a way 123 00:05:52,364 --> 00:05:55,084 Speaker 2: to win and the gravity kicks in. This is right 124 00:05:55,244 --> 00:05:58,444 Speaker 2: where the Mike Tomlin Steelers live. When it seems like 125 00:05:58,524 --> 00:05:59,524 Speaker 2: all hope is lost. 126 00:05:59,844 --> 00:06:00,484 Speaker 3: Oh what do you know? 127 00:06:00,564 --> 00:06:02,204 Speaker 2: They win two out of their next three and things 128 00:06:02,204 --> 00:06:04,044 Speaker 2: are going. I think that they're going to win at 129 00:06:04,084 --> 00:06:06,964 Speaker 2: Ballaltimore next week because I've seen this before. Maybe not 130 00:06:07,044 --> 00:06:10,524 Speaker 2: this dismal Rogers will play the defensive line out of 131 00:06:10,564 --> 00:06:12,564 Speaker 2: nowhere is going to be all over, Lamar. This is 132 00:06:12,644 --> 00:06:14,684 Speaker 2: how it works when all hope is lost. 133 00:06:15,404 --> 00:06:16,764 Speaker 3: Guess what happens next? Good thing. 134 00:06:16,804 --> 00:06:18,364 Speaker 2: I think they'll win at Baltimore next week. I don't 135 00:06:18,364 --> 00:06:20,964 Speaker 2: appollog this for it and Denver just. 136 00:06:21,564 --> 00:06:22,364 Speaker 3: They never lose. 137 00:06:22,964 --> 00:06:24,644 Speaker 2: I feel like they have a little bit of the 138 00:06:24,724 --> 00:06:26,964 Speaker 2: dueling Spider Man thing with them in New England. 139 00:06:27,444 --> 00:06:30,204 Speaker 3: Is this the same team? They feel so similar. 140 00:06:30,284 --> 00:06:33,164 Speaker 2: You have the second year quarterbacks who are really talented, 141 00:06:33,244 --> 00:06:35,124 Speaker 2: sometimes look great, sometimes look a little shaky than they 142 00:06:35,164 --> 00:06:38,524 Speaker 2: redeemed themselves. You have like the old the veteran Obi 143 00:06:38,564 --> 00:06:41,204 Speaker 2: wan Kenobi head coach who's not here for any bs, 144 00:06:41,404 --> 00:06:42,964 Speaker 2: who in one way or another has a Super Bowl 145 00:06:43,044 --> 00:06:45,044 Speaker 2: ring at home. And I feel like neither one of 146 00:06:45,044 --> 00:06:47,164 Speaker 2: these teams has lost since like two thousand and six. 147 00:06:47,204 --> 00:06:50,164 Speaker 2: They never ever lose, no matter what they got to. 148 00:06:50,244 --> 00:06:53,004 Speaker 2: The last four games, you understand, for the Broncos, they've 149 00:06:53,044 --> 00:06:55,844 Speaker 2: won by a combined ten points, by three, by three, 150 00:06:56,004 --> 00:06:58,444 Speaker 2: by three, and now by one. So when I'm getting 151 00:06:58,444 --> 00:07:00,364 Speaker 2: now we're getting into the money time, man time, We're 152 00:07:00,364 --> 00:07:03,284 Speaker 2: getting into like it's time to really really see what 153 00:07:03,324 --> 00:07:06,324 Speaker 2: you're made of. It's a couple of things I want. 154 00:07:06,564 --> 00:07:08,804 Speaker 2: I want a coach I can depend on. I want 155 00:07:08,804 --> 00:07:11,724 Speaker 2: to be able to win close games, and I want 156 00:07:11,764 --> 00:07:12,764 Speaker 2: a really good defense. 157 00:07:13,364 --> 00:07:14,324 Speaker 1: Denver has got. 158 00:07:14,164 --> 00:07:17,164 Speaker 2: Out all of those things. If I'm Denver, like I've 159 00:07:17,164 --> 00:07:19,524 Speaker 2: talked about this team a lot this year, Will you 160 00:07:19,604 --> 00:07:24,444 Speaker 2: understand ye, the early earlier Roethlisberger Steelers. Ben's second year 161 00:07:24,484 --> 00:07:26,964 Speaker 2: won the whole damn thing, and no one was telling them, Oh, 162 00:07:27,004 --> 00:07:28,964 Speaker 2: it's too early, it's too and no, no, no. You had 163 00:07:29,004 --> 00:07:31,404 Speaker 2: a red ass coach who wasn't here for any nonsense. 164 00:07:31,804 --> 00:07:34,724 Speaker 2: You had a crazy defense, and you had a second 165 00:07:34,804 --> 00:07:36,444 Speaker 2: year quarterback. 166 00:07:36,444 --> 00:07:37,124 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. 167 00:07:37,604 --> 00:07:39,844 Speaker 2: And that team was so good that, like Ben, played 168 00:07:39,844 --> 00:07:40,884 Speaker 2: poorly in the Super Bowl. 169 00:07:40,684 --> 00:07:41,204 Speaker 3: And they still won. 170 00:07:41,644 --> 00:07:44,244 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, if I were those teams, 171 00:07:44,284 --> 00:07:45,844 Speaker 2: and if I were those coaches, I would show the 172 00:07:45,844 --> 00:07:48,364 Speaker 2: Broncos and the Patriots. I would show them those early 173 00:07:48,404 --> 00:07:50,244 Speaker 2: Steelers teams, Steels going to win the Super Bowls, the 174 00:07:50,324 --> 00:07:53,364 Speaker 2: Seahawks about we can do it now, there's no warm 175 00:07:53,444 --> 00:07:53,764 Speaker 2: up here. 176 00:07:53,804 --> 00:07:54,284 Speaker 3: Screw that. 177 00:07:54,484 --> 00:07:56,644 Speaker 2: I've said this a million times. Year two is the 178 00:07:56,644 --> 00:07:58,604 Speaker 2: new year five for quarterbacks. Win. 179 00:07:59,124 --> 00:08:02,084 Speaker 3: Now are you seeing the AFC? The varsity kicking in 180 00:08:02,124 --> 00:08:04,604 Speaker 3: the playoffs, Lamar Mahome. 181 00:08:04,924 --> 00:08:06,484 Speaker 2: Rogers, I don't know if those guys are even going 182 00:08:06,524 --> 00:08:09,844 Speaker 2: to be in. The Bears are nine and three and 183 00:08:09,884 --> 00:08:13,404 Speaker 2: they haven't really got cooking yet, Like Caleb's not really 184 00:08:13,844 --> 00:08:16,084 Speaker 2: in his stride yet, and they're still nine and three. 185 00:08:16,204 --> 00:08:19,004 Speaker 2: So there's this excitement about, well, imagine when they really 186 00:08:19,004 --> 00:08:21,804 Speaker 2: get the passing game going. If you're a Packers fan 187 00:08:21,884 --> 00:08:24,884 Speaker 2: or a Packers player, you're like, well, imagine if they don't. 188 00:08:25,164 --> 00:08:28,004 Speaker 2: Maybe this is the passing game. Maybe there's not some 189 00:08:28,164 --> 00:08:30,204 Speaker 2: pot of gold coming at the end of this. And 190 00:08:30,684 --> 00:08:33,564 Speaker 2: to add to that, Coach Johnson also this week is like, 191 00:08:33,604 --> 00:08:35,564 Speaker 2: all right, this is the best defense we faced this 192 00:08:35,644 --> 00:08:38,644 Speaker 2: year by far, the Packers defense. They have the best personnel, 193 00:08:38,684 --> 00:08:40,364 Speaker 2: they have the best set of safeties. We have not 194 00:08:40,444 --> 00:08:43,284 Speaker 2: seen a defense like that this year. So I think 195 00:08:43,324 --> 00:08:45,524 Speaker 2: the storyline we're talking so much Bears because I was 196 00:08:45,564 --> 00:08:48,124 Speaker 2: just there and on and on the storyline of the 197 00:08:48,124 --> 00:08:52,124 Speaker 2: Packers is fascinating because they're the one in a Bears 198 00:08:52,124 --> 00:08:55,484 Speaker 2: Packers matchup. The Packers are seemingly this unspoken about team 199 00:08:55,524 --> 00:08:57,884 Speaker 2: that's unheard of. When's the last time that was the case, 200 00:08:58,004 --> 00:09:00,244 Speaker 2: And the Packers are like dude, we're at home. We're 201 00:09:00,284 --> 00:09:02,364 Speaker 2: eight three and one, you're nine and three. Bully for you. 202 00:09:02,404 --> 00:09:05,044 Speaker 2: They're only tied. We had we scored forty points. I 203 00:09:05,084 --> 00:09:07,324 Speaker 2: think the Packers are ready. I think they are poised. 204 00:09:07,484 --> 00:09:09,844 Speaker 2: And with all the exposure on the Bears and all 205 00:09:09,844 --> 00:09:12,204 Speaker 2: the expectations and the shirtless stuff and the hot dogs, 206 00:09:12,524 --> 00:09:15,004 Speaker 2: wouldn't it be kind of poetic if the Packers just 207 00:09:15,124 --> 00:09:18,284 Speaker 2: smacked him in Lambeau and that didn't get the passing 208 00:09:18,324 --> 00:09:20,524 Speaker 2: game going, and Ben Johnson got to shake Matt Lafleur's 209 00:09:20,524 --> 00:09:21,444 Speaker 2: hand after a loss. 210 00:09:21,644 --> 00:09:22,804 Speaker 3: I don't know. 211 00:09:23,164 --> 00:09:26,444 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson and Matt Lafleur are not friends. They don't 212 00:09:26,484 --> 00:09:30,044 Speaker 2: share a past resume. This is not like Kyle Shanahan 213 00:09:30,084 --> 00:09:33,204 Speaker 2: and Sean McVay where it's busting chops. In fact, I 214 00:09:33,204 --> 00:09:34,724 Speaker 2: thought the guys in the part Might Take did a 215 00:09:34,724 --> 00:09:37,644 Speaker 2: great job. They had Matt Lafleur on and he was like, yeah, 216 00:09:37,684 --> 00:09:39,324 Speaker 2: I don't know Ben Johnson. 217 00:09:39,484 --> 00:09:40,004 Speaker 3: And when he. 218 00:09:39,964 --> 00:09:41,844 Speaker 2: Said that, I got a bunch of texts from a 219 00:09:41,844 --> 00:09:43,924 Speaker 2: bunch of people saying he had said it, and I 220 00:09:43,964 --> 00:09:46,124 Speaker 2: thought it was Packers Bears, But I guess it's Ben 221 00:09:46,164 --> 00:09:50,604 Speaker 2: Johnson versus Mattleful, Like He not amused, completely motivated, and 222 00:09:50,724 --> 00:09:53,804 Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur is a fascinating guy to watched this week. Now, 223 00:09:54,364 --> 00:09:57,044 Speaker 2: as I sit here outside Oahar Airport in the dang 224 00:09:57,124 --> 00:10:00,764 Speaker 2: robe looking at a parking garage, here's my credential Yesterday 225 00:10:00,764 --> 00:10:03,164 Speaker 2: from going to Hallas Hall, I went to the Bears. 226 00:10:03,244 --> 00:10:05,804 Speaker 3: Yesterday. I sat with Caleb Williams. 227 00:10:05,884 --> 00:10:08,964 Speaker 2: He was generous, he was kind, he was interesting, and 228 00:10:09,004 --> 00:10:12,524 Speaker 2: he was locked the bleep in like a business face, 229 00:10:12,684 --> 00:10:16,004 Speaker 2: business like everything from top to bottom. He was ready 230 00:10:16,084 --> 00:10:19,364 Speaker 2: for Packer Week. And my biggest takeaway from being with 231 00:10:19,404 --> 00:10:24,244 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams was that Ben Johnson is running every facet 232 00:10:24,324 --> 00:10:27,724 Speaker 2: of that organization in that building. His presence looms over everything. 233 00:10:28,004 --> 00:10:31,564 Speaker 2: Everybody talks about him. Caleb lit up any question I 234 00:10:31,604 --> 00:10:35,124 Speaker 2: asked him of Ben Johnson. Caleb brought up Ben Johnson 235 00:10:35,164 --> 00:10:37,684 Speaker 2: in questions that had nothing to do with Ben Johnson. 236 00:10:37,844 --> 00:10:40,524 Speaker 3: He wants to talk about Ben Johnson. And here's part 237 00:10:40,524 --> 00:10:40,724 Speaker 3: of it. 238 00:10:40,804 --> 00:10:43,364 Speaker 2: Of course, this is after the game they'd beat Philly 239 00:10:43,444 --> 00:10:45,364 Speaker 2: and he goes legend and now everybody had a free 240 00:10:45,364 --> 00:10:50,124 Speaker 2: hot dogs yesterday in Chicago. But every PR person I 241 00:10:50,204 --> 00:10:52,724 Speaker 2: talked to, every person I have known over the years, 242 00:10:52,764 --> 00:10:54,364 Speaker 2: in the hallways or the cubicles. 243 00:10:54,564 --> 00:10:56,524 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. 244 00:10:56,564 --> 00:10:58,844 Speaker 2: I get in the car afterwards I leave Hallas Hall. 245 00:10:58,924 --> 00:11:01,044 Speaker 2: There's the guy picking me up in the car. His 246 00:11:01,084 --> 00:11:05,004 Speaker 2: first question was, Hey, how's the new coach? Not how Caleb? 247 00:11:05,444 --> 00:11:09,124 Speaker 2: Not how's monong guy? Not how any the new coach 248 00:11:09,204 --> 00:11:11,524 Speaker 2: looms over everything, And if you've watched the new coach 249 00:11:11,604 --> 00:11:14,204 Speaker 2: this week, he didn't want to hear any nonsense about 250 00:11:14,204 --> 00:11:16,604 Speaker 2: where the one seeds. He will bite your bleeping head 251 00:11:16,644 --> 00:11:19,844 Speaker 2: off if you talk about whoa you're going one seed? Congratulations. Also, 252 00:11:19,884 --> 00:11:22,164 Speaker 2: we had the most pointed quote. I talked to Cale 253 00:11:22,164 --> 00:11:25,084 Speaker 2: about how he's playing, but Ben Johnson this week said 254 00:11:25,564 --> 00:11:29,444 Speaker 2: we are winning in spite of our passing game, not 255 00:11:29,684 --> 00:11:32,204 Speaker 2: because of it, and no one is happy with that. 256 00:11:32,484 --> 00:11:33,564 Speaker 3: And Caleb and I. 257 00:11:33,484 --> 00:11:36,204 Speaker 2: Talked about it, was like, he's right, It's just my 258 00:11:36,244 --> 00:11:37,164 Speaker 2: biggest takeaway. 259 00:11:37,684 --> 00:11:39,924 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. They wouldn't let me 260 00:11:40,004 --> 00:11:41,404 Speaker 3: leave the building. Guys, you won't know how big Ben 261 00:11:41,444 --> 00:11:43,924 Speaker 3: Johnson looms and howse hall. This is the shirt that 262 00:11:43,964 --> 00:11:50,244 Speaker 3: I got. They woudn't let this shite. Maybe they're handing 263 00:11:50,324 --> 00:11:51,484 Speaker 3: these suckers out. 264 00:11:51,924 --> 00:11:55,404 Speaker 2: Look he looks like John Cena meets SpongeBob, like his 265 00:11:55,884 --> 00:11:59,004 Speaker 2: maniac stuff is going on there. He wrote that check 266 00:11:59,164 --> 00:12:01,964 Speaker 2: about Matt Lafleur and now he has to cash it 267 00:12:02,084 --> 00:12:03,444 Speaker 2: this weekend in Lambeau. 268 00:12:03,604 --> 00:12:05,084 Speaker 3: Dude, it is. It's so odd. 269 00:12:05,164 --> 00:12:07,444 Speaker 2: This is a great breaking Calebs talk about he wants 270 00:12:07,444 --> 00:12:09,364 Speaker 2: to lamboat Leap, but I don't know if the Packers 271 00:12:09,404 --> 00:12:09,884 Speaker 2: fansil let. 272 00:12:09,924 --> 00:12:11,884 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's just awesome. I'm sware enough to be 273 00:12:11,924 --> 00:12:12,524 Speaker 3: a football fan. 274 00:12:23,604 --> 00:12:26,404 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 275 00:12:26,444 --> 00:12:31,524 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. For more iHeartRadio pods, go to the iHeartRadio app, 276 00:12:32,044 --> 00:12:34,964 Speaker 1: go to Apple, go anywhere you like, it'll be there.