1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:20,075 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The 2 00:00:20,115 --> 00:00:22,715 Speaker 1: first news reporter who stands up to Trump and calls 3 00:00:22,755 --> 00:00:25,035 Speaker 1: him out to his face in public will get fired 4 00:00:25,115 --> 00:00:28,155 Speaker 1: and within forty eight hours will get a new job 5 00:00:28,235 --> 00:00:31,235 Speaker 1: paying twice as much or more, and will become a 6 00:00:31,355 --> 00:00:35,595 Speaker 1: national hero. America is crying out for somebody to take 7 00:00:35,675 --> 00:00:38,755 Speaker 1: the risk that isn't really a risk and tell him 8 00:00:38,755 --> 00:00:41,635 Speaker 1: to shut the hell up, and tell him to f off, 9 00:00:41,675 --> 00:00:45,155 Speaker 1: and tell him to shove his threats and stochastic hints 10 00:00:45,195 --> 00:00:49,355 Speaker 1: at destruction and violence and his A plus plus plus 11 00:00:49,395 --> 00:00:55,595 Speaker 1: plus up his ass. It is time, now, now now, 12 00:00:56,475 --> 00:00:58,955 Speaker 1: Because Trump has now threatened the New York Times with 13 00:00:59,275 --> 00:01:04,555 Speaker 1: sedition and treason charges for committing the heinous, unpatriotic act 14 00:01:04,795 --> 00:01:09,755 Speaker 1: of suggesting he's a little tired for criticizing him for 15 00:01:09,955 --> 00:01:14,835 Speaker 1: criticizing him. Doesn't matter that it's just another threat that 16 00:01:14,875 --> 00:01:18,955 Speaker 1: his losses over Kimmel and Komi and Tish James have 17 00:01:19,075 --> 00:01:21,915 Speaker 1: set back the clock on when he completely loses it 18 00:01:22,075 --> 00:01:24,715 Speaker 1: and tries to do any of this. Doesn't matter that 19 00:01:24,835 --> 00:01:28,395 Speaker 1: legally none of this fits sedition or treason. None of 20 00:01:28,395 --> 00:01:30,795 Speaker 1: it could fit in a million years. This is a 21 00:01:30,915 --> 00:01:35,475 Speaker 1: mentally deteriorating man. His disease or diseases, whatever they are, 22 00:01:35,555 --> 00:01:39,315 Speaker 1: are accelerating before our eyes. And each hour he gets 23 00:01:39,355 --> 00:01:43,195 Speaker 1: further and further convinced of his omnipotence, and worse that 24 00:01:43,355 --> 00:01:47,035 Speaker 1: only a tiny minority in this country opposes him in 25 00:01:47,155 --> 00:01:51,515 Speaker 1: the slightest he has almost unchecked power, and the Republicans 26 00:01:51,595 --> 00:01:55,235 Speaker 1: won't check the rest, and somebody has to check the rest. 27 00:01:55,635 --> 00:01:58,955 Speaker 1: And if he threatens the Times with treason and insists 28 00:01:59,035 --> 00:02:02,955 Speaker 1: in that stochastic terrorist way of his, we should do 29 00:02:03,035 --> 00:02:07,395 Speaker 1: something about it. I'm next, or your next, or the 30 00:02:07,435 --> 00:02:10,715 Speaker 1: guy down the street is next, or some Republican who 31 00:02:10,755 --> 00:02:13,915 Speaker 1: stands up is next. Two weeks ago he wanted to 32 00:02:13,995 --> 00:02:17,755 Speaker 1: hang Democratic senators and congressman like Kelly and Slotkin. And 33 00:02:17,755 --> 00:02:19,755 Speaker 1: now he wants to charge the New York Times with 34 00:02:20,035 --> 00:02:27,315 Speaker 1: treason and sedition and you are next. And just because 35 00:02:27,395 --> 00:02:30,635 Speaker 1: this isn't enough of a crisis that nobody's reacting to 36 00:02:30,675 --> 00:02:33,875 Speaker 1: it as a crisis, because well, he's always threatening the media, 37 00:02:33,915 --> 00:02:36,835 Speaker 1: and well he's always claiming somebody's guilty of treason, and 38 00:02:36,835 --> 00:02:41,235 Speaker 1: well he's always planning to get somebody anged. Ask Mike Pants, 39 00:02:41,275 --> 00:02:44,475 Speaker 1: am I right there is a pattern here over the 40 00:02:44,595 --> 00:02:47,235 Speaker 1: last week about which we need to take note and 41 00:02:47,275 --> 00:02:51,755 Speaker 1: summon genuine alarm. He is now trying to decide who 42 00:02:51,795 --> 00:02:56,355 Speaker 1: owns and operates the national news organizations and what they say, 43 00:02:56,675 --> 00:03:00,435 Speaker 1: even the tepid ones like CNN, and which shows get 44 00:03:00,475 --> 00:03:03,515 Speaker 1: to run on them, and which anchors must be fired 45 00:03:04,915 --> 00:03:08,395 Speaker 1: Aaron Burnett. And worst of all, this ties into that 46 00:03:08,475 --> 00:03:12,635 Speaker 1: word you're sick of me hearing. This is part of anosognosia, 47 00:03:12,795 --> 00:03:16,195 Speaker 1: because it's clear to the world that Trump is desperately, 48 00:03:16,435 --> 00:03:20,675 Speaker 1: menacingly psychologically dysfunctional, and there is no chance in a 49 00:03:20,795 --> 00:03:24,355 Speaker 1: million years that he has any idea that what he 50 00:03:24,475 --> 00:03:27,475 Speaker 1: is doing is part of that illness or any illness, 51 00:03:27,875 --> 00:03:30,595 Speaker 1: and no chance that anybody around him sees it that 52 00:03:30,715 --> 00:03:35,795 Speaker 1: way or will tell him that's the truth. This is 53 00:03:35,955 --> 00:03:41,995 Speaker 1: psychological dysfunction, This is mental illness. This is stochastic terrorism. 54 00:03:42,235 --> 00:03:46,035 Speaker 1: I will read that all to you now. Quote. There 55 00:03:46,075 --> 00:03:48,795 Speaker 1: has never been a president that has worked as hard 56 00:03:48,875 --> 00:03:52,235 Speaker 1: as me. My hours are the longest and my results 57 00:03:52,275 --> 00:03:55,195 Speaker 1: are among the best. In addition to all that, I 58 00:03:55,315 --> 00:03:57,795 Speaker 1: go out of my way to do long, thorough and 59 00:03:57,995 --> 00:04:02,115 Speaker 1: very boring medical examinations at the Great Walter Reed National 60 00:04:02,155 --> 00:04:06,515 Speaker 1: Military Medical Center, seen and supervised by top doctors, all 61 00:04:06,555 --> 00:04:09,715 Speaker 1: of whom have given me perfect marks. Some have even 62 00:04:09,755 --> 00:04:13,115 Speaker 1: said they have never seen such strong perfect marks. Some 63 00:04:13,155 --> 00:04:16,155 Speaker 1: have even said they have never seen such strong results. 64 00:04:16,795 --> 00:04:20,915 Speaker 1: I do these tests because I owe it to our country. 65 00:04:21,875 --> 00:04:24,395 Speaker 1: That's right, He's doing this a favor. In addition to 66 00:04:24,435 --> 00:04:27,075 Speaker 1: the medical I have done something that no other president 67 00:04:27,115 --> 00:04:32,715 Speaker 1: has done on three separate occasions, the last one being recently, 68 00:04:33,195 --> 00:04:36,635 Speaker 1: by taking what is known as a cognitive examination, something 69 00:04:36,675 --> 00:04:39,035 Speaker 1: which few people would be able to do very well, 70 00:04:39,235 --> 00:04:41,995 Speaker 1: including those working at the New York Times. And I 71 00:04:42,075 --> 00:04:44,955 Speaker 1: aced all three of them in front of large numbers 72 00:04:44,995 --> 00:04:48,755 Speaker 1: of doctors and experts, most of whom I do not know. 73 00:04:50,515 --> 00:04:53,275 Speaker 1: In other words, he's used to being tested by doctors 74 00:04:53,315 --> 00:04:55,595 Speaker 1: who he does know, does pay, and does tell what 75 00:04:55,715 --> 00:04:59,115 Speaker 1: to say to resume. I have been told that few 76 00:04:59,115 --> 00:05:02,275 Speaker 1: people have been able to ace this examination, and in 77 00:05:02,315 --> 00:05:05,275 Speaker 1: fact most do very poorly, which is why many other 78 00:05:05,315 --> 00:05:08,555 Speaker 1: presidents have decided not to take it at all. Despite 79 00:05:08,555 --> 00:05:12,835 Speaker 1: all of this, the time and work involved, he said 80 00:05:12,955 --> 00:05:15,395 Speaker 1: it was pretty easy. The New York Times and some 81 00:05:15,515 --> 00:05:18,275 Speaker 1: others like to pretend that I am quote slowing up 82 00:05:18,515 --> 00:05:20,955 Speaker 1: and maybe not as sharp. As I once was or 83 00:05:20,995 --> 00:05:24,035 Speaker 1: am in poor physical health. Knowing that it is not true, 84 00:05:24,075 --> 00:05:26,835 Speaker 1: and knowing that I work very hard, probably harder than 85 00:05:26,835 --> 00:05:29,595 Speaker 1: I have ever worked before, I will know when I 86 00:05:29,635 --> 00:05:34,675 Speaker 1: am slowing up. But it's not now, said every patient 87 00:05:34,795 --> 00:05:39,835 Speaker 1: of every neurological disorder and physical ailment ever. And here 88 00:05:39,915 --> 00:05:45,195 Speaker 1: is the operative part of this. Here is the true pathology. Quote. 89 00:05:45,275 --> 00:05:48,195 Speaker 1: After all of the work I have done with medical exams, 90 00:05:48,355 --> 00:05:52,995 Speaker 1: cognitive exams, and everything else, I actually believe it's seditious, 91 00:05:53,435 --> 00:05:56,515 Speaker 1: perhaps even treasonous, for the New York Times and others 92 00:05:56,555 --> 00:06:00,275 Speaker 1: to consistently do fake reports in order to libel and 93 00:06:00,435 --> 00:06:05,875 Speaker 1: demean quote the President of the United States in capital letters. 94 00:06:06,755 --> 00:06:10,195 Speaker 1: They are true enemies of the people, and we should 95 00:06:10,235 --> 00:06:15,395 Speaker 1: do something about it. Yeah, somebody has to do something 96 00:06:15,395 --> 00:06:18,075 Speaker 1: about it. Remove him under the twenty fifth Amendment. He's 97 00:06:18,075 --> 00:06:21,755 Speaker 1: as crazy as a jbird. Of course, that will not happen, 98 00:06:21,995 --> 00:06:24,835 Speaker 1: So somebody else needs to do something a little simpler. 99 00:06:25,595 --> 00:06:29,555 Speaker 1: Answer him, Answer him when he says things like this, 100 00:06:29,955 --> 00:06:32,915 Speaker 1: Answer him when he attacks you, answer him in the 101 00:06:32,955 --> 00:06:36,915 Speaker 1: same language. Answer him to his face, not with threats, 102 00:06:37,155 --> 00:06:40,155 Speaker 1: not with violence, for God's sakes, not even yelling or 103 00:06:40,195 --> 00:06:44,435 Speaker 1: a loud voice. Just answer him with reality, answer him 104 00:06:44,675 --> 00:06:47,635 Speaker 1: with the thing he never sees in his life, the 105 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:52,115 Speaker 1: real world and the real world of how sick Donald 106 00:06:52,235 --> 00:06:58,435 Speaker 1: Trump is. Because the time is nigh. He is going 107 00:06:58,555 --> 00:07:02,275 Speaker 1: to snap soon enough. And though it won't look like 108 00:07:02,435 --> 00:07:06,315 Speaker 1: he sounds in these ranting almost fugue state, king lear 109 00:07:06,435 --> 00:07:09,715 Speaker 1: off his med's penultimate stage of whatever disease he happens 110 00:07:09,715 --> 00:07:12,435 Speaker 1: to have at the moment, wild rides on the dementia 111 00:07:12,515 --> 00:07:16,755 Speaker 1: j Trump delusion train. These are only the big picture. Well, 112 00:07:16,835 --> 00:07:21,115 Speaker 1: let's then nuke them. Fantasies the likelihood he tries anything 113 00:07:21,515 --> 00:07:25,555 Speaker 1: beyond the threat involved in this, That likelihood is remote 114 00:07:25,595 --> 00:07:28,835 Speaker 1: because nobody in power, not even the morons like Chief 115 00:07:28,875 --> 00:07:31,315 Speaker 1: of Staff Susie Wiles, who's now decided she's going to 116 00:07:31,355 --> 00:07:35,155 Speaker 1: make the midterms next year a referendum on Trump, and 117 00:07:35,235 --> 00:07:39,435 Speaker 1: thank you for that, Pat Summerl's daughter, not even Susie Wiles. 118 00:07:39,475 --> 00:07:42,395 Speaker 1: Things Actually pursuing anything like this against The New York 119 00:07:42,435 --> 00:07:46,675 Speaker 1: Times is anything but madness. What they like is the 120 00:07:46,715 --> 00:07:50,715 Speaker 1: threat element. They can sell the threat element. They also 121 00:07:50,955 --> 00:07:55,675 Speaker 1: like that darkest of undercurrents, the possibility that, again he writes, 122 00:07:56,035 --> 00:07:59,435 Speaker 1: we should do something about it and his stochastic call 123 00:07:59,515 --> 00:08:02,595 Speaker 1: for violence is picked up by the way it was 124 00:08:02,675 --> 00:08:06,315 Speaker 1: on January sixth by the insurrectionists, or buy the pipe barmber, 125 00:08:06,395 --> 00:08:09,515 Speaker 1: or buy the Maga militia. There is always that chance, 126 00:08:09,555 --> 00:08:13,675 Speaker 1: and it is very real. But the immediate threat is 127 00:08:13,795 --> 00:08:18,275 Speaker 1: action to silence and manipulate media to a degree not 128 00:08:18,475 --> 00:08:23,995 Speaker 1: yet seen even under this president. Three examples this week. First, 129 00:08:24,115 --> 00:08:27,595 Speaker 1: Trump has decided he gets to program what's on CNN. 130 00:08:27,955 --> 00:08:30,555 Speaker 1: He's already said he's going to be involved in the process. 131 00:08:30,635 --> 00:08:34,475 Speaker 1: Why which CNN may change hands. He's been in the 132 00:08:34,515 --> 00:08:37,235 Speaker 1: Oval office with Larry Ellison, who's still trying to buy 133 00:08:37,235 --> 00:08:39,755 Speaker 1: that network and make it even softer on Trump than 134 00:08:39,835 --> 00:08:44,835 Speaker 1: David Zaslav and Warner Bros. Discovery and Chris Lickt made 135 00:08:44,835 --> 00:08:48,155 Speaker 1: it soft on Trump. Per Natalie Andrews at The Wall 136 00:08:48,155 --> 00:08:51,435 Speaker 1: Street Journal. Quote, Trump has told people close to him 137 00:08:51,435 --> 00:08:54,435 Speaker 1: that he wants new ownership of CNN as well as 138 00:08:54,595 --> 00:08:58,075 Speaker 1: changes to CNN programming. He's got a close eye on 139 00:08:58,195 --> 00:09:02,275 Speaker 1: paramount efforts to take over Warner Discovery, while Netflix is 140 00:09:02,355 --> 00:09:08,635 Speaker 1: talking to Trump too. Unquote Trump mysteriously, since she is 141 00:09:08,675 --> 00:09:12,795 Speaker 1: the most milk toast person in primetime cable wants Aaron 142 00:09:12,875 --> 00:09:18,835 Speaker 1: Burnett out and probably Caitlyn Collins again, why you would bother? 143 00:09:19,235 --> 00:09:23,235 Speaker 1: I don't know these and the shows on MS are 144 00:09:23,275 --> 00:09:29,075 Speaker 1: not widely watched nor cited television programmings. They are now nothing, 145 00:09:29,155 --> 00:09:33,075 Speaker 1: again compared to say, the CBS Evening News over which 146 00:09:33,075 --> 00:09:35,875 Speaker 1: he is now a measure of control via Barry Weiss 147 00:09:35,875 --> 00:09:40,475 Speaker 1: and those schmucks. But he sees Aaron Burnett and Caitlyn 148 00:09:40,555 --> 00:09:44,115 Speaker 1: Collins and CNN, and as brain damaged as he is, 149 00:09:44,555 --> 00:09:50,275 Speaker 1: he must silence the critics and the criticism that he sees. Also, 150 00:09:50,355 --> 00:09:52,995 Speaker 1: there have been two more attacks on women reporters. To 151 00:09:53,115 --> 00:09:57,315 Speaker 1: ABC's Rachel Scott, here's a shock. She's gifted, she works 152 00:09:57,355 --> 00:10:01,555 Speaker 1: for Disney, and she's attention all you racist presidents of 153 00:10:01,595 --> 00:10:05,715 Speaker 1: the United States. She's an African American woman. Quote. You 154 00:10:05,795 --> 00:10:08,835 Speaker 1: are the most obnoxious reporter in the whole place. Let 155 00:10:08,835 --> 00:10:12,315 Speaker 1: me just tell you. You are an obnoxious, a terrible reporter. 156 00:10:12,595 --> 00:10:15,155 Speaker 1: And it's always the same thing with you. I told 157 00:10:15,195 --> 00:10:21,155 Speaker 1: you unquote. Also, Lachland Cart writes Breaker reports that the fatuous, 158 00:10:21,275 --> 00:10:25,435 Speaker 1: flatulent lap sitting quote interview unquote of dementia J Trump 159 00:10:25,555 --> 00:10:28,755 Speaker 1: the other day by the austed NBC correspondent dash of 160 00:10:28,875 --> 00:10:32,955 Speaker 1: Burns for Politico in which you'd recognize her if you 161 00:10:32,995 --> 00:10:36,035 Speaker 1: saw the video. She was the one asking the softball questions, 162 00:10:36,395 --> 00:10:39,115 Speaker 1: not following up on any of the stupid answers, and 163 00:10:39,155 --> 00:10:44,235 Speaker 1: then basically taking dictation throughout. They're reporting at breaker that 164 00:10:44,235 --> 00:10:46,995 Speaker 1: that interview was essentially the result of a quid pro 165 00:10:47,275 --> 00:10:51,235 Speaker 1: quote and Politico staffers are nearing open revolts over it, 166 00:10:51,755 --> 00:10:56,435 Speaker 1: and Trump attacked Politico specifically, and dash of Burns by 167 00:10:56,555 --> 00:11:00,275 Speaker 1: extension two dash of burns of Politico in the interview 168 00:11:00,275 --> 00:11:02,795 Speaker 1: with Politico, And no, I don't think she's very much 169 00:11:02,795 --> 00:11:05,075 Speaker 1: of a journalist, but I'll defend her right to try, 170 00:11:05,755 --> 00:11:09,555 Speaker 1: and God damned any president who tries to intimidate her 171 00:11:09,635 --> 00:11:13,115 Speaker 1: or anybody else, and that would even include Barry effing Weiss. 172 00:11:13,875 --> 00:11:17,755 Speaker 1: Attacking her is the job of media critics and journalists 173 00:11:17,795 --> 00:11:19,995 Speaker 1: and those of us who dabble in those fields, and 174 00:11:20,075 --> 00:11:25,595 Speaker 1: not presidents with enough influence to get her harmed anyway. 175 00:11:26,035 --> 00:11:29,115 Speaker 1: Politico named Trump to the top of its twenty eight 176 00:11:29,715 --> 00:11:34,155 Speaker 1: influencers in Europe or something, and then suddenly bingo it 177 00:11:34,195 --> 00:11:36,875 Speaker 1: had an exclusive with Trump during which he said he 178 00:11:36,955 --> 00:11:40,835 Speaker 1: was only giving their Crappola Organization an interview because it 179 00:11:40,875 --> 00:11:44,475 Speaker 1: had just made up another award for him, and then 180 00:11:44,475 --> 00:11:46,635 Speaker 1: he insulted them in her and she sat there because 181 00:11:46,635 --> 00:11:49,675 Speaker 1: the job is more important to her than is America. 182 00:11:50,715 --> 00:11:55,395 Speaker 1: Lachlan Cartwright writes, quote, breaker has learned what was brought 183 00:11:55,435 --> 00:11:58,875 Speaker 1: into the Oval Office fifteen minutes before the interview was 184 00:11:58,875 --> 00:12:02,515 Speaker 1: set to start. Brought in by senior administration officials, including 185 00:12:02,515 --> 00:12:07,195 Speaker 1: Communication Director Stephen Chunung or Chunk, as he's also known. 186 00:12:07,755 --> 00:12:11,315 Speaker 1: I wrote that, not Lachlan White House Press Secretary Caroline 187 00:12:11,435 --> 00:12:14,115 Speaker 1: Levitt and Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, who made it 188 00:12:14,235 --> 00:12:18,835 Speaker 1: clear they expected Burns to go easy on Trump. The 189 00:12:18,875 --> 00:12:21,955 Speaker 1: White House, however, explained there was a simpler explanation for 190 00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:26,115 Speaker 1: why Burns entered the Oval ahead of the interview. Unquote. 191 00:12:26,715 --> 00:12:29,515 Speaker 1: That was in the denial that there was any attempt 192 00:12:29,595 --> 00:12:32,795 Speaker 1: to influence the softball nature of this interview. But it 193 00:12:32,835 --> 00:12:36,635 Speaker 1: was just naturally softball. They brought her into the Oval Office, 194 00:12:36,835 --> 00:12:44,835 Speaker 1: according to the White House because because she'd never actually 195 00:12:44,835 --> 00:12:48,035 Speaker 1: been in the Oval Office before, because she's only Politico's 196 00:12:48,035 --> 00:12:52,075 Speaker 1: White House Bureau chief and a former NBC News Washington 197 00:12:52,155 --> 00:12:58,875 Speaker 1: political reporter. I'm having a hard time believing their story. 198 00:12:59,315 --> 00:13:03,315 Speaker 1: The tragedy here, of course, is that it is accepted 199 00:13:03,915 --> 00:13:07,515 Speaker 1: inside the new business without a second thought. That there 200 00:13:07,555 --> 00:13:11,915 Speaker 1: is nothing that reporters, even bad ones, can do about 201 00:13:11,955 --> 00:13:17,675 Speaker 1: this without risking their careers and maybe their lives. Bullshit. 202 00:13:18,795 --> 00:13:21,795 Speaker 1: The first one, the first one of you who gets 203 00:13:21,875 --> 00:13:25,315 Speaker 1: told you are the most obnoxious reporter in the whole place. 204 00:13:25,715 --> 00:13:29,155 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you are a terrible reporter. The 205 00:13:29,195 --> 00:13:32,955 Speaker 1: first one who hears that to their face and replies, so, 206 00:13:33,115 --> 00:13:36,875 Speaker 1: what what does that have to do with my question? Nothing? 207 00:13:37,555 --> 00:13:39,475 Speaker 1: And what does that have to do with the fact 208 00:13:39,475 --> 00:13:42,715 Speaker 1: that you didn't answer it? Nothing? And with all due respects, sir, 209 00:13:43,075 --> 00:13:46,755 Speaker 1: The majority of this nation, sir, considers you a failure 210 00:13:46,795 --> 00:13:48,955 Speaker 1: as a president. And what does that have to do 211 00:13:49,035 --> 00:13:51,475 Speaker 1: with your answer? The one you didn't? Just give me? Nothing? 212 00:13:51,755 --> 00:13:56,595 Speaker 1: But the majority of this nation thinks you are a vindictive, stupid, hypocritical, hateful, 213 00:13:56,675 --> 00:14:01,475 Speaker 1: destructive soul is and quite probably insane person. I am 214 00:14:01,515 --> 00:14:04,515 Speaker 1: a terrible reporter. You are the worst government leader in 215 00:14:04,555 --> 00:14:09,195 Speaker 1: the history of the Western hemisphere. Answer my effing question, asshole. 216 00:14:12,195 --> 00:14:15,035 Speaker 1: You don't have to repeat that word for word. The 217 00:14:15,155 --> 00:14:18,755 Speaker 1: first reporter, though, who does something like that anything like 218 00:14:18,835 --> 00:14:23,755 Speaker 1: that gets ushered out, maybe by secret service, and fired 219 00:14:23,795 --> 00:14:27,635 Speaker 1: before they hit the street outside on Pennsylvania Avenue, And 220 00:14:28,315 --> 00:14:32,035 Speaker 1: within forty eight hours they will get statues built of them, 221 00:14:32,275 --> 00:14:35,195 Speaker 1: and they will get new job offers at twice the salary, 222 00:14:35,235 --> 00:14:39,115 Speaker 1: at least half a dozen networks and online facilities, and 223 00:14:39,155 --> 00:14:41,795 Speaker 1: they may have to stop and give up a wonderful 224 00:14:41,875 --> 00:14:44,875 Speaker 1: life of being on the road with this madman and 225 00:14:44,995 --> 00:14:49,035 Speaker 1: instead become an anchor, or a host or something for 226 00:14:49,195 --> 00:14:53,195 Speaker 1: several million dollars more than they're currently making. And as 227 00:14:53,195 --> 00:14:55,955 Speaker 1: somebody said to a baseball writer decades ago, the road 228 00:14:56,195 --> 00:14:58,315 Speaker 1: ruins the best of them, and kid, you ain't the 229 00:14:58,355 --> 00:15:03,675 Speaker 1: best of them. Take the deal, take the desk job, 230 00:15:04,075 --> 00:15:08,395 Speaker 1: give that answer to Trump. Work for truth, not for 231 00:15:08,595 --> 00:15:14,075 Speaker 1: CBS or Politico or NBC or MS. Now go off 232 00:15:14,395 --> 00:15:20,515 Speaker 1: on him. And then turned it into a series. I 233 00:15:20,595 --> 00:15:28,075 Speaker 1: know a little something about this after years of complaining 234 00:15:28,115 --> 00:15:29,675 Speaker 1: about it on the air, and I was not a 235 00:15:29,715 --> 00:15:32,995 Speaker 1: White House reporter. I was not a confrontational guy. I 236 00:15:33,035 --> 00:15:35,155 Speaker 1: couldn't say this directly, but it was at a time 237 00:15:35,435 --> 00:15:38,395 Speaker 1: when something that was set on network television or cable 238 00:15:38,435 --> 00:15:42,595 Speaker 1: television would reverberate and would almost be the equivalent of 239 00:15:42,635 --> 00:15:45,155 Speaker 1: saying it to a man's face. And one day, after 240 00:15:45,315 --> 00:15:49,115 Speaker 1: years of minor and relatively controlled complaints, I read what 241 00:15:49,235 --> 00:15:51,835 Speaker 1: Bush and Cheney and Gingrich and Rumsfeld and the others 242 00:15:51,875 --> 00:15:54,675 Speaker 1: were saying about those of us who criticized the policy 243 00:15:54,675 --> 00:15:57,235 Speaker 1: of the Bush administration against Iraq and the way they 244 00:15:57,235 --> 00:15:59,755 Speaker 1: were leading this country. And one day I said, I've 245 00:15:59,795 --> 00:16:03,275 Speaker 1: had enough. Nobody is telling this guy to go to hell. 246 00:16:04,035 --> 00:16:06,755 Speaker 1: Somebody has to say he has to go to hell. 247 00:16:07,315 --> 00:16:10,195 Speaker 1: Somebody has to let him know. Somebody has to say 248 00:16:10,195 --> 00:16:12,155 Speaker 1: this on behalf of all the people out here. And 249 00:16:12,235 --> 00:16:14,155 Speaker 1: I don't know how many there are. There could be 250 00:16:14,195 --> 00:16:16,635 Speaker 1: thirty five, there could be one hundred and fifty million, 251 00:16:16,715 --> 00:16:19,475 Speaker 1: I don't know, but they're there. I can feel them saying, 252 00:16:19,555 --> 00:16:23,435 Speaker 1: tell this man to go to hell. And I did it. 253 00:16:24,475 --> 00:16:27,595 Speaker 1: And I did it expecting to be fired, maybe before 254 00:16:27,635 --> 00:16:30,115 Speaker 1: the show was over, and maybe not even having some 255 00:16:30,355 --> 00:16:33,595 Speaker 1: extra place to go outside of politics and news, maybe 256 00:16:33,595 --> 00:16:35,675 Speaker 1: not being able to go back to sports. And when 257 00:16:35,675 --> 00:16:38,195 Speaker 1: the president of the network then came into my tiny 258 00:16:38,235 --> 00:16:41,515 Speaker 1: office after this, as the room outside me was shaking 259 00:16:41,835 --> 00:16:44,155 Speaker 1: with people who really liked what I said, but figured 260 00:16:44,155 --> 00:16:47,155 Speaker 1: they were all going to get fired too. One percent 261 00:16:47,195 --> 00:16:50,275 Speaker 1: of me thought, you know, he's not going to fire me. 262 00:16:50,315 --> 00:16:51,835 Speaker 1: He's going to get me thrown into the trunk of 263 00:16:51,875 --> 00:16:53,435 Speaker 1: a car, and I'm going to wake up and get 264 00:16:53,475 --> 00:16:56,915 Speaker 1: mo Instead. The president of the network said, hey, buddy, 265 00:16:56,955 --> 00:16:59,075 Speaker 1: did you see the ratings? Can you do one of 266 00:16:59,115 --> 00:17:02,355 Speaker 1: those every night? Would you like a new contract, would 267 00:17:02,395 --> 00:17:04,995 Speaker 1: you like a real office, would you like a lot 268 00:17:04,995 --> 00:17:11,155 Speaker 1: of more money. I wasn't some kind of journalistic profit. 269 00:17:11,555 --> 00:17:14,475 Speaker 1: I wasn't some sort of historic genius. I wasn't some 270 00:17:14,555 --> 00:17:18,795 Speaker 1: sort of societal soothsayer. I wasn't imbued with the spirit 271 00:17:18,875 --> 00:17:21,155 Speaker 1: of Edward R. Murrow for a year, or a month 272 00:17:21,235 --> 00:17:25,755 Speaker 1: or even a week. Only three things were required then 273 00:17:26,195 --> 00:17:29,555 Speaker 1: and are required now, even in a time of fear, 274 00:17:30,035 --> 00:17:34,235 Speaker 1: to become the one who shouts, hey, Emperor, you have 275 00:17:34,395 --> 00:17:39,595 Speaker 1: no new clothes. First, you have to be prepared. It's tough, 276 00:17:39,635 --> 00:17:42,355 Speaker 1: but you have to be prepared to make way more 277 00:17:42,435 --> 00:17:47,075 Speaker 1: money than you're making now. Two, in this environment, this 278 00:17:47,155 --> 00:17:50,555 Speaker 1: guy has to yell at you. First, directly with fifty 279 00:17:50,595 --> 00:17:53,355 Speaker 1: cameras rolling at the time. You have to be prepared 280 00:17:53,395 --> 00:17:55,595 Speaker 1: for an event that may not come or may not 281 00:17:55,675 --> 00:18:00,195 Speaker 1: come for six months. But lastly, and most importantly, you 282 00:18:00,275 --> 00:18:04,275 Speaker 1: have to correctly divine that the American public has passed 283 00:18:04,315 --> 00:18:07,875 Speaker 1: the tip points and it desperately wants somebody to confront 284 00:18:07,875 --> 00:18:10,555 Speaker 1: this asshole and tell him to his face he's an asshole. 285 00:18:10,795 --> 00:18:13,955 Speaker 1: No matter what the personal risk might be, You're already 286 00:18:14,035 --> 00:18:17,515 Speaker 1: under personal risk. He already wants to charge you with sedition. 287 00:18:17,795 --> 00:18:21,195 Speaker 1: People supporting him already want you harmed or dead. It's 288 00:18:21,235 --> 00:18:24,955 Speaker 1: not that much of a percentage increase, and you don't 289 00:18:24,995 --> 00:18:27,875 Speaker 1: even have to divine that they were past the tipping point. 290 00:18:28,155 --> 00:18:31,835 Speaker 1: Just guess, Just assume it hasn't changed that much since 291 00:18:31,875 --> 00:18:35,635 Speaker 1: the last time you actually really assess this. He tells 292 00:18:35,755 --> 00:18:38,595 Speaker 1: Poor Burns of Politico that the economy is an A 293 00:18:38,835 --> 00:18:43,515 Speaker 1: plus plus plus plus plus, exactly the wording of the 294 00:18:43,555 --> 00:18:47,115 Speaker 1: fantasy from Little Ralphie in a Christmas story when he's 295 00:18:47,155 --> 00:18:50,195 Speaker 1: in the fourth grade. He says a plus plus plus 296 00:18:50,235 --> 00:18:53,195 Speaker 1: plus plus. And a new poll from Public First Polling 297 00:18:53,395 --> 00:18:55,835 Speaker 1: says that in the last two years, twenty seven percent 298 00:18:55,875 --> 00:18:58,835 Speaker 1: of US have skipped a medical checkup because of the costs, 299 00:18:59,075 --> 00:19:01,275 Speaker 1: and thirty seven percent of us said they can no 300 00:19:01,315 --> 00:19:04,155 Speaker 1: longer afford to go to a pro ballgame, and forty 301 00:19:04,195 --> 00:19:06,675 Speaker 1: six percent of us cat afford a vacation if we 302 00:19:06,795 --> 00:19:09,595 Speaker 1: have to use a plane during it. And these are 303 00:19:09,635 --> 00:19:12,875 Speaker 1: the inflation figures they are fighting against. Bacon three and 304 00:19:12,915 --> 00:19:15,875 Speaker 1: a half percent, checking five point three percent, let us 305 00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:20,275 Speaker 1: seven point four percent, bananas eight percent, ground b fourteen percent, 306 00:19:20,475 --> 00:19:22,635 Speaker 1: coffee one hundred percent. You know where I got those 307 00:19:22,635 --> 00:19:25,875 Speaker 1: goddamn inflation figures from? From the Efing Maria E Fing 308 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:33,395 Speaker 1: Bartiromo show on Fox. This is the tipping point. You 309 00:19:33,515 --> 00:19:39,155 Speaker 1: are here on the map. America wants you to tell 310 00:19:39,195 --> 00:19:45,875 Speaker 1: Trump he's full of shit. One well crafted paragraph of 311 00:19:45,915 --> 00:19:50,395 Speaker 1: suppressed and controlled anger and it's over. I'd be happy 312 00:19:50,475 --> 00:19:53,995 Speaker 1: to do it myself, but as you may have noticed, 313 00:19:55,675 --> 00:19:58,915 Speaker 1: my skill at suppressing and controlling my anger on this 314 00:19:59,115 --> 00:20:04,155 Speaker 1: subject is waning. And also I retired from that platform 315 00:20:04,195 --> 00:20:06,195 Speaker 1: more than a day to go. But you are on 316 00:20:06,235 --> 00:20:09,755 Speaker 1: that platform now, You are on a platform while Trump 317 00:20:09,795 --> 00:20:12,035 Speaker 1: is trying to light the platform on fire, and he's 318 00:20:12,075 --> 00:20:14,195 Speaker 1: trying to light you on fire, and he's trying to 319 00:20:14,235 --> 00:20:18,035 Speaker 1: light America on fire. You are on the platform. Now 320 00:20:18,395 --> 00:20:23,275 Speaker 1: use the platform. Looking at you, Rachel Scott, looking at you, 321 00:20:23,435 --> 00:20:26,795 Speaker 1: Dash of Burns, looking at you, Caitlin Collins and Aaron 322 00:20:26,795 --> 00:20:29,115 Speaker 1: Burnette and anybody else he thinks he can get fired 323 00:20:29,275 --> 00:20:32,915 Speaker 1: from his new CNN looking at you, New York Times, 324 00:20:34,035 --> 00:20:40,435 Speaker 1: do it now now before he actually snaps and does 325 00:20:40,555 --> 00:21:02,755 Speaker 1: charge you with sedition. The other headlines as Trump continues 326 00:21:02,835 --> 00:21:05,435 Speaker 1: his cover up of the Second Strike, and that's in 327 00:21:05,435 --> 00:21:07,715 Speaker 1: addition to his cover up of the Epstein files, two 328 00:21:07,835 --> 00:21:11,155 Speaker 1: rather startling stories that didn't really change the score, but 329 00:21:11,195 --> 00:21:13,635 Speaker 1: which do remind us that the creatures who are loyal 330 00:21:13,715 --> 00:21:16,995 Speaker 1: to Trump, the ren fields of our time, are also 331 00:21:17,115 --> 00:21:20,395 Speaker 1: hypocrites and frauds who, outside of Stephen Miller, do not 332 00:21:20,635 --> 00:21:24,675 Speaker 1: even believe their own hate. They just sell it as 333 00:21:24,715 --> 00:21:27,555 Speaker 1: A federal court rules that the Trump usurpation of the 334 00:21:27,675 --> 00:21:32,475 Speaker 1: National Guard to terrorize citizens in LA was illegal, Thus 335 00:21:32,755 --> 00:21:37,475 Speaker 1: you can extrapolate that those military orders were also illegal. 336 00:21:37,995 --> 00:21:43,435 Speaker 1: CNN reports that throughout twenty sixteen, one Fox News pundit 337 00:21:43,595 --> 00:21:47,995 Speaker 1: and sometimes host kept beating the same drum about the 338 00:21:47,995 --> 00:21:52,595 Speaker 1: military carrying out illegal orders. As Trump kept insisting in 339 00:21:52,595 --> 00:21:56,195 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, they should and they would, and when pressed 340 00:21:56,235 --> 00:21:58,155 Speaker 1: about what would happen if they didn't, he told a 341 00:21:58,195 --> 00:22:01,795 Speaker 1: Republican primary debate quote, they won't refuse, They're not going 342 00:22:01,835 --> 00:22:05,715 Speaker 1: to refuse me. Believe me as that we're telling began 343 00:22:05,835 --> 00:22:08,235 Speaker 1: of our current crisis in which he is changing the 344 00:22:08,315 --> 00:22:13,595 Speaker 1: United States of America military into Trump troops. Inc. While 345 00:22:13,635 --> 00:22:17,635 Speaker 1: that was going on in twenty sixteen, one Fox commentator, 346 00:22:17,835 --> 00:22:22,275 Speaker 1: a military contributor, insisted it was illegal and should not 347 00:22:22,395 --> 00:22:25,835 Speaker 1: happen and would not happen. Quote, You're just not going 348 00:22:25,915 --> 00:22:29,235 Speaker 1: to follow that order if it's unlawful. He insisted, the 349 00:22:29,235 --> 00:22:32,915 Speaker 1: military is not going to follow illegal orders. A month later, 350 00:22:32,955 --> 00:22:35,755 Speaker 1: he came back on and said the military won't follow 351 00:22:35,955 --> 00:22:39,355 Speaker 1: unlawful orders from their commander in chief. And after that, 352 00:22:40,435 --> 00:22:44,875 Speaker 1: as a guest on Meghan Kelly's Fox Show, Remember Meghan Kelly, 353 00:22:44,995 --> 00:22:48,155 Speaker 1: the man said, quote, here's the problem with Trump. He says, 354 00:22:48,195 --> 00:22:50,675 Speaker 1: go ahead and kill the family, go ahead and torture, 355 00:22:50,875 --> 00:22:53,995 Speaker 1: go ahead and go further than waterboarding. What happens when 356 00:22:54,035 --> 00:22:57,315 Speaker 1: people follow those orders or don't follow them. It's not 357 00:22:57,475 --> 00:23:01,075 Speaker 1: clear that Donald Trump will have their back. Donald Trump 358 00:23:01,115 --> 00:23:04,515 Speaker 1: is oftentimes about Donald Trump, and so you can't if 359 00:23:04,515 --> 00:23:07,195 Speaker 1: you're not changing the law and you're just saying it, 360 00:23:07,595 --> 00:23:16,155 Speaker 1: could you create even more ambiguity? Unquote, who who was 361 00:23:16,235 --> 00:23:20,915 Speaker 1: so morally and legally clear, Who was so insightful as 362 00:23:20,915 --> 00:23:24,635 Speaker 1: to the nightmare behind the nightmare. Trump issues illegal orders, 363 00:23:24,715 --> 00:23:27,355 Speaker 1: you carry them out, and then he backs away from 364 00:23:27,395 --> 00:23:29,395 Speaker 1: the orders, pretends he doesn't even know who you are, 365 00:23:29,435 --> 00:23:32,395 Speaker 1: and you go to jail. Who saw that coming? Who 366 00:23:32,475 --> 00:23:39,475 Speaker 1: was almost psychic about this? Pete hegseeth? No, the same 367 00:23:39,555 --> 00:23:43,715 Speaker 1: pete hegseeth And just as tragically. A year ago, a 368 00:23:43,795 --> 00:23:49,075 Speaker 1: lawyer representing America First Policy Institute answered a lawsuit by 369 00:23:49,115 --> 00:23:51,915 Speaker 1: claiming that the issue of Trump ordering Seal Team six 370 00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:55,315 Speaker 1: to kill a rival candidate, this was part of the 371 00:23:55,315 --> 00:23:58,835 Speaker 1: presidential immunity thing, that that was just a fantasy. Quote. 372 00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:03,795 Speaker 1: Military officers are required not to carry out unlawful orders, 373 00:24:04,155 --> 00:24:07,115 Speaker 1: this lawyer wrote in a brief to the Supreme Court 374 00:24:07,315 --> 00:24:10,235 Speaker 1: that was dug up by The Times. Quote, the military 375 00:24:10,275 --> 00:24:13,275 Speaker 1: would not carry out a patently unlawful order from the 376 00:24:13,315 --> 00:24:17,555 Speaker 1: president to kill non military targets. Indeed, service members are 377 00:24:17,595 --> 00:24:21,675 Speaker 1: required not to do so. Unquote again, who wrote that 378 00:24:21,915 --> 00:24:30,995 Speaker 1: powerful conservative viewpoint? Pambondy Yep, same Pambondy. When this is 379 00:24:31,035 --> 00:24:34,315 Speaker 1: over and Bondy and hegxeth go to prison for facilitating 380 00:24:34,355 --> 00:24:38,435 Speaker 1: illegal orders to the military, hegxeth and BONDI can at 381 00:24:38,515 --> 00:24:43,395 Speaker 1: least say I told you so as they look themselves 382 00:24:43,915 --> 00:25:11,715 Speaker 1: in the mirror. Thank you, Nancy Faust. Another day, another petard, 383 00:25:11,915 --> 00:25:15,355 Speaker 1: another hoisting to continue that theme. Remember those Bill Pulty 384 00:25:15,475 --> 00:25:18,795 Speaker 1: specials trying to prosecute Adam Schiff and Lisa Cook and 385 00:25:18,915 --> 00:25:22,275 Speaker 1: Eric Swalwell for filling out forms that said a home 386 00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:25,555 Speaker 1: they were mortgaging was to be their primary residence. Only 387 00:25:25,595 --> 00:25:27,275 Speaker 1: it wasn't, or it wasn't going to be all the time, 388 00:25:27,355 --> 00:25:31,355 Speaker 1: or it wouldn't be later, Remember that from pro Publica. 389 00:25:31,395 --> 00:25:33,835 Speaker 1: In a span of seven weeks in nineteen ninety three, 390 00:25:33,955 --> 00:25:37,515 Speaker 1: one real estate guy signed a mortgage for one house 391 00:25:37,595 --> 00:25:40,755 Speaker 1: in Palm Beach, Florida, declared on the application that it 392 00:25:40,755 --> 00:25:44,155 Speaker 1: would be his principal residence. Seven months later, he bought 393 00:25:44,195 --> 00:25:49,035 Speaker 1: another house, same street, same pledge, same mortgage app He 394 00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:52,395 Speaker 1: never lived in either. It was so transparently false that 395 00:25:52,435 --> 00:25:55,395 Speaker 1: the buyer's real estate guy told the Miami Herald that 396 00:25:55,475 --> 00:25:59,035 Speaker 1: his client had quote hired an expensive New York design 397 00:25:59,195 --> 00:26:02,155 Speaker 1: firm to dress them up to the nines and lease 398 00:26:02,275 --> 00:26:07,475 Speaker 1: them out annually, so they weren't his primary resident. He 399 00:26:07,715 --> 00:26:10,715 Speaker 1: was dressing them up to the nines and leasing them 400 00:26:10,715 --> 00:26:14,355 Speaker 1: out annually, so the mortgage app thing was a lie. 401 00:26:14,515 --> 00:26:18,995 Speaker 1: The buyer of both those houses was Donald J. Trump. 402 00:26:19,675 --> 00:26:26,915 Speaker 1: Well there's another coincidence also of interest here another tech 403 00:26:26,955 --> 00:26:34,755 Speaker 1: pro billionaire wants public executions. Cool you first, and pro tip. 404 00:26:34,835 --> 00:26:37,715 Speaker 1: If you're a congresswoman from Missouri claiming there is a 405 00:26:37,795 --> 00:26:42,235 Speaker 1: George Sorows plot to make Missouri's political decisions for it, 406 00:26:42,515 --> 00:26:45,355 Speaker 1: you probably better know that the city where you claim 407 00:26:45,475 --> 00:26:49,995 Speaker 1: that plot is being hatched. That city is not in California. 408 00:26:50,635 --> 00:26:55,395 Speaker 1: It is in Missouri, in the district next to yours. 409 00:26:56,075 --> 00:26:59,235 Speaker 1: But you've never looked at a map of your own 410 00:26:59,315 --> 00:27:02,595 Speaker 1: state while you're trying to gerrymander your own state for 411 00:27:02,635 --> 00:27:07,435 Speaker 1: the fascists. You will believe this. California, here we come. 412 00:27:07,555 --> 00:27:14,235 Speaker 1: That's next. This is Countdown. This is Countdown with Keith 413 00:27:14,435 --> 00:27:38,795 Speaker 1: Olberman still ahead on this edition of Countdown. Somebody asked 414 00:27:38,795 --> 00:27:41,155 Speaker 1: me the other day what I thought about Chris Matthews 415 00:27:41,235 --> 00:27:46,275 Speaker 1: reappearing back with Joe Scarborough on MSNBS forgive me MS 416 00:27:46,315 --> 00:27:49,795 Speaker 1: now dumbest name change of all time, ludicrous Werson killing 417 00:27:49,835 --> 00:27:53,155 Speaker 1: off HBO to call it Max anyway, Matthews on with Scarborough? 418 00:27:53,235 --> 00:27:54,795 Speaker 1: How did I feel about that? I said, I actually 419 00:27:54,835 --> 00:27:58,035 Speaker 1: felt sorry for Scarborough. Then I told him the story 420 00:27:58,035 --> 00:28:01,475 Speaker 1: of Chris Matthews drooling on air while I sat next 421 00:28:01,475 --> 00:28:05,675 Speaker 1: to him drooling on air about Jennifer Granholm. So I'll 422 00:28:05,675 --> 00:28:07,955 Speaker 1: tell it to you next. In things I promise not 423 00:28:08,075 --> 00:28:10,755 Speaker 1: to tell first, believe it or not, there's still more 424 00:28:10,835 --> 00:28:13,515 Speaker 1: new idiots to talk about. The roundup of the miscrants, 425 00:28:13,515 --> 00:28:17,115 Speaker 1: morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute today's other 426 00:28:17,635 --> 00:28:23,155 Speaker 1: worst persons in the world to the bronze the secretary 427 00:28:23,155 --> 00:28:27,555 Speaker 1: of reality TV cancelations, Sean Duffy. All right, I'm going 428 00:28:27,635 --> 00:28:30,155 Speaker 1: to confess something to you. Duffy said it would improve 429 00:28:31,195 --> 00:28:35,355 Speaker 1: air travel if people didn't wear pajamas on the plane 430 00:28:35,915 --> 00:28:44,555 Speaker 1: and go barefoot, and and he's God, He's right. The 431 00:28:44,635 --> 00:28:47,315 Speaker 1: days of everybody in suits and fedoras is long gone, 432 00:28:47,315 --> 00:28:49,675 Speaker 1: and good riddance. In point of fact, your safety in 433 00:28:49,715 --> 00:28:51,995 Speaker 1: the event of a disaster on a plane is increased 434 00:28:52,035 --> 00:28:53,915 Speaker 1: if you wear a cap or a hat of some 435 00:28:54,155 --> 00:28:58,875 Speaker 1: kind and a leather jacket because it's flame retardant. Increases 436 00:28:58,915 --> 00:29:02,235 Speaker 1: your chances zero point zero, zero zero one percent or 437 00:29:02,275 --> 00:29:05,795 Speaker 1: something is your clothing choice. So the key improvement in 438 00:29:05,795 --> 00:29:09,075 Speaker 1: our air traffic chaos no of course, not him suggesting 439 00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:12,475 Speaker 1: that is stupid, but it is not a stupid suggestion, 440 00:29:13,915 --> 00:29:16,195 Speaker 1: or at least it wasn't until he followed it up 441 00:29:16,235 --> 00:29:19,035 Speaker 1: by then suggesting that maybe what people want in airports 442 00:29:19,075 --> 00:29:25,035 Speaker 1: now is a workout area for stair climbing and chin ups, 443 00:29:25,515 --> 00:29:28,475 Speaker 1: and they trotted out Robert F. Kennedy Junior, I finally 444 00:29:28,635 --> 00:29:31,315 Speaker 1: realized is actually one of the characters from the animated 445 00:29:31,315 --> 00:29:34,755 Speaker 1: series Family Guy, one of the weird guys in their office. 446 00:29:35,355 --> 00:29:37,795 Speaker 1: And Robert F. Kennedy did chin ups in the middle 447 00:29:37,835 --> 00:29:39,955 Speaker 1: of the airport because of course you see that all 448 00:29:39,995 --> 00:29:43,555 Speaker 1: the time, don't you. My god, you see more penguins 449 00:29:43,555 --> 00:29:46,395 Speaker 1: in airports than you see chin ups. Because what Sean 450 00:29:46,475 --> 00:29:49,115 Speaker 1: Duffy wants you to do is wear a suit and 451 00:29:49,155 --> 00:29:52,275 Speaker 1: a tie and then work out inside the airport and 452 00:29:52,515 --> 00:29:55,195 Speaker 1: perspire through your suit and your tie, and then get 453 00:29:55,235 --> 00:29:57,315 Speaker 1: on your plane and sit down next to somebody and 454 00:29:57,395 --> 00:30:00,315 Speaker 1: cause them to pass out from your stench. And if 455 00:30:00,315 --> 00:30:04,195 Speaker 1: Sean Duffy thinks that will decrease problems on planes, especially 456 00:30:04,355 --> 00:30:08,315 Speaker 1: pass singer intolerance and rage, he's dumber than I thought. 457 00:30:08,355 --> 00:30:12,035 Speaker 1: And frankly, I didn't think that was possible. The runner 458 00:30:12,115 --> 00:30:15,915 Speaker 1: unp worser data platform company Pallenteer and its co founder, 459 00:30:15,995 --> 00:30:19,915 Speaker 1: right wing nut job tech money fascist bro Joe Lonsdale, 460 00:30:20,355 --> 00:30:23,315 Speaker 1: paal of Barry Weiss and Peter Thiel and the rest 461 00:30:23,315 --> 00:30:25,635 Speaker 1: of the people who are using the money they got 462 00:30:25,675 --> 00:30:28,915 Speaker 1: from us to try to turn us into indentured servants 463 00:30:29,075 --> 00:30:33,155 Speaker 1: or silent cogs in a machine they own. Mister Lonsdale 464 00:30:33,235 --> 00:30:36,395 Speaker 1: left Pallenteer long ago, but when you hear about Volunteer 465 00:30:36,875 --> 00:30:40,155 Speaker 1: or Barry Weiss's university, which he's also been involved with, 466 00:30:40,715 --> 00:30:43,875 Speaker 1: this is what is at its heart, and certainly at 467 00:30:43,915 --> 00:30:50,835 Speaker 1: Lonsdale's He's joined this club of people demanding public executions. 468 00:30:51,675 --> 00:30:55,435 Speaker 1: Remember Charlie Kirk wanted public executions on pay per view. 469 00:30:55,835 --> 00:30:58,515 Speaker 1: He wanted kids to be forced to watch the public 470 00:30:58,555 --> 00:31:03,955 Speaker 1: executions of criminals. Well, now Lonsdale has posted on Twitter quote, 471 00:31:04,435 --> 00:31:07,115 Speaker 1: if if I'm in charge later, we won't just have 472 00:31:07,195 --> 00:31:10,755 Speaker 1: a three strikes law. We will quickly try and hang 473 00:31:10,995 --> 00:31:14,035 Speaker 1: men after three violent crimes. And yes we will do 474 00:31:14,115 --> 00:31:18,515 Speaker 1: it in public to deter others. Our society needs balance. 475 00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:23,955 Speaker 1: It's time to bring back masculine leadership. Imagine being Joe 476 00:31:24,035 --> 00:31:26,915 Speaker 1: Lonsdale and having so wasted your life, that you think 477 00:31:26,915 --> 00:31:33,275 Speaker 1: that the desire to see someone, anyone executed publicly hanged 478 00:31:33,915 --> 00:31:39,275 Speaker 1: is somehow masculine, as opposed to being a sign of 479 00:31:39,555 --> 00:31:43,555 Speaker 1: your sadism and fear and mental illness and stupidity, and 480 00:31:43,675 --> 00:31:49,275 Speaker 1: probably you know elon musk cocktails. Also note there is 481 00:31:49,315 --> 00:31:52,315 Speaker 1: no indication there that the opening of that tweet, if 482 00:31:52,355 --> 00:31:54,915 Speaker 1: I'm in charge later, that that's meant in some sort 483 00:31:54,955 --> 00:31:58,435 Speaker 1: of ironic or acutesy way. He means he intends to 484 00:31:58,475 --> 00:32:01,675 Speaker 1: be in charge later. They all think Trump is just 485 00:32:01,795 --> 00:32:06,235 Speaker 1: the start of business men owning the country, but the 486 00:32:06,235 --> 00:32:10,355 Speaker 1: winner the worst. And Wagner Republican representing the Missouri second 487 00:32:10,355 --> 00:32:12,635 Speaker 1: in the House of Representatives and in the middle of 488 00:32:12,675 --> 00:32:18,675 Speaker 1: the redistricting controversy in Missouri, and idiot middle of redistricting 489 00:32:18,715 --> 00:32:20,835 Speaker 1: and apparently she's never looked at a map of her 490 00:32:20,835 --> 00:32:23,715 Speaker 1: own state in her life, not even a map of 491 00:32:23,755 --> 00:32:28,955 Speaker 1: the area around its state capital. The California Democrat posted 492 00:32:29,035 --> 00:32:32,435 Speaker 1: this on Twitter at the end of last month. Concerned 493 00:32:32,515 --> 00:32:36,515 Speaker 1: citizens gathered at California City Hall Railroad Park on five 494 00:32:36,635 --> 00:32:40,475 Speaker 1: hundred South Oak Street to stop gerrymandering in Missouri. Access 495 00:32:40,555 --> 00:32:44,595 Speaker 1: the California Democrat to read the full story California MO, 496 00:32:45,435 --> 00:32:48,235 Speaker 1: mid MO are the hashtags and then there's a link 497 00:32:48,595 --> 00:32:53,035 Speaker 1: and she has retweeted this and taken umbrage and Wagner congresswoman, 498 00:32:53,155 --> 00:32:57,795 Speaker 1: and Wagner writes, Missouri's elections aren't decided in California. The 499 00:32:57,835 --> 00:33:01,315 Speaker 1: real threat isn't our map, but the Sorrow's funded network 500 00:33:01,355 --> 00:33:07,995 Speaker 1: trying to manufacture outrage. Missourians will choose Missouri's future. Uh. 501 00:33:08,435 --> 00:33:13,835 Speaker 1: Miss the California Democrat newspaper, it's based in the town 502 00:33:13,915 --> 00:33:19,595 Speaker 1: of California, Missouri. That's that's how. That's how they have 503 00:33:19,755 --> 00:33:25,195 Speaker 1: a city hall, railroad park in California, California. It says 504 00:33:25,395 --> 00:33:31,435 Speaker 1: California city Hall. This this California is not in the state. 505 00:33:31,555 --> 00:33:35,795 Speaker 1: It's it's in Missouri. And you the six term congresswoman 506 00:33:35,835 --> 00:33:39,075 Speaker 1: from the district next to California, Missouri. Apparently you didn't 507 00:33:39,075 --> 00:33:42,115 Speaker 1: know that. And oh yeah, she's the former chair of 508 00:33:42,115 --> 00:33:45,115 Speaker 1: the Missouri Republican Party. And oh, by the way, California. 509 00:33:45,635 --> 00:33:49,115 Speaker 1: The town is the seat of Monitou County, Missouri, and 510 00:33:49,155 --> 00:33:51,355 Speaker 1: it's the largest city in that county. And it's the 511 00:33:51,395 --> 00:33:54,435 Speaker 1: third largest city in the Jefferson City metropolitan area. And 512 00:33:54,475 --> 00:33:57,435 Speaker 1: if Jefferson City sounds familiar. Perhaps it should, since it's 513 00:33:57,475 --> 00:34:02,675 Speaker 1: the capital of the goddamn state. Her office denies she 514 00:34:02,755 --> 00:34:06,155 Speaker 1: didn't know California, Missouri was in Missouri, insisting, of course 515 00:34:06,155 --> 00:34:08,715 Speaker 1: she knows that she just deliberately wrote it this way 516 00:34:08,795 --> 00:34:16,555 Speaker 1: because because because it's it's George Soros's fault somehow. Then 517 00:34:16,595 --> 00:34:18,835 Speaker 1: if this sounds like the start of a Hallmark movie 518 00:34:18,835 --> 00:34:22,195 Speaker 1: and a bad one, yep, Congresswoman Ann Wagner used to 519 00:34:22,195 --> 00:34:28,595 Speaker 1: be an executive with Hallmark. Should have stayed there a 520 00:34:28,675 --> 00:34:35,555 Speaker 1: Christmas in California, Missouri. See the twist Representative Anne as 521 00:34:35,555 --> 00:34:38,475 Speaker 1: her Democratic opponent Fred Wellman ads wait till she hears 522 00:34:38,475 --> 00:34:43,355 Speaker 1: about the Missouri towns of Mexico and Cuba. Wagner redistricting Missouri, 523 00:34:43,395 --> 00:34:47,795 Speaker 1: and she doesn't even own a map. Today's other worst 524 00:34:48,075 --> 00:35:31,875 Speaker 1: person things I promised not to tell. And I was 525 00:35:31,915 --> 00:35:36,395 Speaker 1: speaking a couple of days ago about the coverage of 526 00:35:36,435 --> 00:35:39,355 Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight presidential election. You remember two 527 00:35:39,395 --> 00:35:42,715 Speaker 1: thousand and eight ancient history, back when there was an 528 00:35:42,755 --> 00:35:46,995 Speaker 1: American democracy, back when there was hopey changey things as 529 00:35:46,995 --> 00:35:50,795 Speaker 1: opposed to I hope you change into something other than 530 00:35:50,875 --> 00:35:55,835 Speaker 1: the president of the United States. I was talking about 531 00:35:55,875 --> 00:35:58,315 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and was asked a series of 532 00:35:58,395 --> 00:36:03,075 Speaker 1: questions about our coverage at MSNBC, and the person asking 533 00:36:03,155 --> 00:36:09,155 Speaker 1: me questions had yet to mention the most significant roadblock 534 00:36:09,475 --> 00:36:12,755 Speaker 1: to getting things done, to getting that broadcast and the 535 00:36:12,795 --> 00:36:16,395 Speaker 1: other broadcasts that we did politically at MSNBC all those 536 00:36:16,475 --> 00:36:22,035 Speaker 1: years ago off the ground and then again safely on 537 00:36:22,075 --> 00:36:25,355 Speaker 1: the ground when it was all done. The assets we 538 00:36:25,395 --> 00:36:29,835 Speaker 1: had were extraordinary through most of the primary campaign that year, 539 00:36:29,875 --> 00:36:32,435 Speaker 1: and through all of two thousand and six in the midterms, 540 00:36:32,435 --> 00:36:34,875 Speaker 1: we'd had Tim Russert who would come on and after 541 00:36:34,915 --> 00:36:37,675 Speaker 1: the network coverage was completely over, would just sit there 542 00:36:37,675 --> 00:36:40,075 Speaker 1: with us for another hour on the air. What a 543 00:36:40,115 --> 00:36:42,035 Speaker 1: pleasure that was. And then we'd go out in the 544 00:36:42,035 --> 00:36:45,515 Speaker 1: hallway and talk about baseball, the good part of it, 545 00:36:45,675 --> 00:36:51,275 Speaker 1: plus dozens of people and that then new and sincere 546 00:36:51,435 --> 00:36:54,835 Speaker 1: Rachel Matdow, other people who really knew what they were 547 00:36:54,875 --> 00:36:57,795 Speaker 1: talking about and were trying to make a point and 548 00:36:57,915 --> 00:37:02,515 Speaker 1: make an inroad in what was then all conservative corporate media, 549 00:37:03,235 --> 00:37:07,795 Speaker 1: even at NBC. But the person had not asked me 550 00:37:07,875 --> 00:37:11,955 Speaker 1: one question about the major impediment, And the major impediment 551 00:37:12,155 --> 00:37:15,235 Speaker 1: was my co anchor for almost all of this was 552 00:37:15,955 --> 00:37:22,155 Speaker 1: Chris efing Matthews. Over the years, I have made allusions 553 00:37:22,155 --> 00:37:26,795 Speaker 1: to Chris Matthews and just how rare it was when 554 00:37:26,835 --> 00:37:30,835 Speaker 1: he was actually in the same plane of existence as 555 00:37:30,875 --> 00:37:34,355 Speaker 1: the rest of us in the universe. And I know 556 00:37:34,515 --> 00:37:37,115 Speaker 1: Chris never heard me say any of these things, because 557 00:37:37,555 --> 00:37:42,075 Speaker 1: Chris never listened. If Chris listened, Chris would probably still 558 00:37:42,115 --> 00:37:43,795 Speaker 1: be on the air every night with a nightly show 559 00:37:43,795 --> 00:37:47,235 Speaker 1: on MSNBC. There's a Dorian Gray picture of him somewhere 560 00:37:47,315 --> 00:37:50,475 Speaker 1: because he hasn't changed in appearance since the late nineteen nineties, 561 00:37:51,155 --> 00:37:53,155 Speaker 1: even though he's now well, you know how old he is. 562 00:37:53,155 --> 00:37:55,955 Speaker 1: He's two hundred and six. The story I want to 563 00:37:55,955 --> 00:37:59,995 Speaker 1: tell about Matthews, though, that I think symbolizes and summarizes 564 00:38:00,235 --> 00:38:04,035 Speaker 1: the entirety of my experience with him, which began in 565 00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:06,995 Speaker 1: two thousand and three. I was on the set with 566 00:38:07,075 --> 00:38:10,475 Speaker 1: him when he discussed the fact that this was George 567 00:38:10,515 --> 00:38:13,915 Speaker 1: Bush's day and mission accomplished was not an exaggeration. And 568 00:38:14,115 --> 00:38:17,195 Speaker 1: look at how well he fits in that flight man's uniform, 569 00:38:17,715 --> 00:38:21,035 Speaker 1: and he was talking about how he looked good in 570 00:38:21,075 --> 00:38:24,275 Speaker 1: the pants. That was the beginning of it. And I said, 571 00:38:24,435 --> 00:38:27,595 Speaker 1: don't you think there's something about bringing up the whole 572 00:38:28,555 --> 00:38:31,755 Speaker 1: flying experience and the Texas Air National Guard and that 573 00:38:31,795 --> 00:38:34,835 Speaker 1: whole question. You think that's a bad idea or declaring 574 00:38:34,875 --> 00:38:38,715 Speaker 1: mission accomplished while American servicemen's lives are still at risk 575 00:38:38,755 --> 00:38:41,035 Speaker 1: in Iraq and will be no. No, this is his day, 576 00:38:41,035 --> 00:38:45,835 Speaker 1: This is his day. Chris can always point to being 577 00:38:45,915 --> 00:38:48,995 Speaker 1: right about any issue that ever came across his desk 578 00:38:49,115 --> 00:38:53,115 Speaker 1: because he took every possible point of view on every 579 00:38:53,515 --> 00:38:58,475 Speaker 1: possible issue. He was anti Bush, pro Bush, anti Trump 580 00:38:58,515 --> 00:39:02,755 Speaker 1: pro Trump. He was everything at all times. And the 581 00:39:02,795 --> 00:39:05,355 Speaker 1: way you do that is the way Trump does. You 582 00:39:05,475 --> 00:39:08,475 Speaker 1: just don't remember what you said last time. You don't 583 00:39:08,555 --> 00:39:10,555 Speaker 1: think it's relevant, you don't think that anybody else is 584 00:39:10,595 --> 00:39:13,515 Speaker 1: going to remember it. There's a lot of similarity, there's 585 00:39:13,555 --> 00:39:16,435 Speaker 1: a lot of overlap in the ven diagrams of Chris 586 00:39:16,435 --> 00:39:20,155 Speaker 1: Matthews and Donald Trump. But I'm diverging. I promised you 587 00:39:20,555 --> 00:39:24,515 Speaker 1: the Chris Matthews story I could have before I sat 588 00:39:24,515 --> 00:39:26,355 Speaker 1: down in front of the microphone gone and looked this 589 00:39:26,515 --> 00:39:29,515 Speaker 1: up to get the exact date. I'm sure it was 590 00:39:30,115 --> 00:39:33,275 Speaker 1: two thousand and six or two thousand and seven, doesn't 591 00:39:33,275 --> 00:39:37,195 Speaker 1: matter much. It was cold, it was the winter. It 592 00:39:37,275 --> 00:39:40,075 Speaker 1: was deep in the winter, probably January or February, and 593 00:39:40,115 --> 00:39:43,715 Speaker 1: I had traveled to Washington on short notice because they 594 00:39:43,795 --> 00:39:49,315 Speaker 1: wanted me to co anchor with Matthews. The memorial coverage 595 00:39:49,555 --> 00:39:53,395 Speaker 1: of the funeral rolls two of them, a former president 596 00:39:53,915 --> 00:40:01,475 Speaker 1: Gerald R. Ford. Gerald Ford ultimately is down there with 597 00:40:01,755 --> 00:40:05,955 Speaker 1: what Harrison and a couple of other really short term 598 00:40:06,035 --> 00:40:10,555 Speaker 1: presidents like Chester Allen Arthur who just didn't make a 599 00:40:10,675 --> 00:40:13,875 Speaker 1: huge impact except for in his case one event the 600 00:40:13,915 --> 00:40:17,875 Speaker 1: pardoning of Nixon, really didn't do much as President of 601 00:40:17,915 --> 00:40:20,355 Speaker 1: the United States and yet President of the United States. 602 00:40:20,395 --> 00:40:23,755 Speaker 1: State funeral, Plus they were also going to give him 603 00:40:23,795 --> 00:40:30,035 Speaker 1: a second funeral the next day in Michigan, back in 604 00:40:30,075 --> 00:40:33,595 Speaker 1: his home state Grand Rapids, if I remember correctly. So 605 00:40:33,635 --> 00:40:37,195 Speaker 1: we were there for two days, me and Matthews all day, 606 00:40:37,315 --> 00:40:40,635 Speaker 1: doing the state funeral one day and then the next 607 00:40:40,675 --> 00:40:44,875 Speaker 1: day the funeral in Michigan. The state funeral was just 608 00:40:44,915 --> 00:40:47,955 Speaker 1: a typical day with Chris Matthews. I would say something 609 00:40:48,035 --> 00:40:50,235 Speaker 1: and he would then repeat it as if he had 610 00:40:50,395 --> 00:40:53,595 Speaker 1: heard it in his own head rather than coming out 611 00:40:53,595 --> 00:40:57,595 Speaker 1: of my mouth. Chris heard things that were said, he 612 00:40:57,755 --> 00:41:01,315 Speaker 1: just never heard who had said them. So he tended 613 00:41:01,355 --> 00:41:03,515 Speaker 1: to repeat a lot of the things I had just mentioned, 614 00:41:04,515 --> 00:41:06,835 Speaker 1: and he would jump in on interviews that he was 615 00:41:06,835 --> 00:41:08,275 Speaker 1: not supposed to be a part of, and all the 616 00:41:08,315 --> 00:41:10,915 Speaker 1: rest of the usual nonsense. He would read things on 617 00:41:10,955 --> 00:41:15,195 Speaker 1: the teleprompter that said Keith. He would read everything except 618 00:41:15,195 --> 00:41:19,115 Speaker 1: the word Keith, the usual stuff. So that was a 619 00:41:19,155 --> 00:41:21,995 Speaker 1: good day. The next day, when we moved to Michigan, 620 00:41:22,155 --> 00:41:25,675 Speaker 1: that was not quite as good a day. The Michigan 621 00:41:25,915 --> 00:41:29,355 Speaker 1: part of the two days of the burial Gerald Ford 622 00:41:30,795 --> 00:41:34,355 Speaker 1: was well, I'll make the joke now that I made 623 00:41:34,635 --> 00:41:38,435 Speaker 1: off set then and off air then, which was took 624 00:41:38,475 --> 00:41:40,715 Speaker 1: two days to bury him what he wouldn't stop moving. 625 00:41:41,875 --> 00:41:46,115 Speaker 1: The second day was conducted out of a Protestant church 626 00:41:46,595 --> 00:41:49,915 Speaker 1: in Grand Rapids, if I remember correctly, that had an 627 00:41:49,995 --> 00:41:54,075 Speaker 1: overhead window. And I forget the technical terms. Although my 628 00:41:54,195 --> 00:41:56,075 Speaker 1: dad was an architect, I don't think he did a 629 00:41:56,115 --> 00:42:01,195 Speaker 1: lot of churches. But there was an overhead length of 630 00:42:01,275 --> 00:42:09,355 Speaker 1: the church glass ceiling, and it provided extraordinarily bright and 631 00:42:12,315 --> 00:42:15,475 Speaker 1: mood altering light. And on that day, in the middle 632 00:42:15,515 --> 00:42:17,875 Speaker 1: of winter, at the middle of the day, the light 633 00:42:17,995 --> 00:42:20,915 Speaker 1: came in at such an angle that it really did 634 00:42:20,955 --> 00:42:25,755 Speaker 1: look kind of otherworldly. If not heavenly, and so as 635 00:42:25,835 --> 00:42:28,995 Speaker 1: all the leading Michigan politicos and many of the national 636 00:42:28,995 --> 00:42:33,915 Speaker 1: politicos who had traveled to Michigan to attend both halves 637 00:42:34,115 --> 00:42:37,915 Speaker 1: of the doubleheader of the burial of Gerald Ford as 638 00:42:37,955 --> 00:42:40,795 Speaker 1: they filed in, and to his credit, Chris Matthews knew 639 00:42:40,835 --> 00:42:43,795 Speaker 1: every one of them by sight, even if they were 640 00:42:43,835 --> 00:42:46,275 Speaker 1: on the monitor in front of us half an inch tall. 641 00:42:46,475 --> 00:42:49,635 Speaker 1: He knew that that was the dog catcher from Grand Rapids, 642 00:42:49,715 --> 00:42:53,595 Speaker 1: Michigan from nineteen thirty eight who convinced football star Gerald 643 00:42:53,635 --> 00:42:57,675 Speaker 1: Ford to go into politics and not football. He knew 644 00:42:57,915 --> 00:43:00,635 Speaker 1: every one of them. He knew the former mayor, he 645 00:43:00,715 --> 00:43:05,235 Speaker 1: knew the attorney general of Michigan. Seventeen attorneys general will 646 00:43:05,235 --> 00:43:08,995 Speaker 1: go and that was great. That was why when they 647 00:43:09,035 --> 00:43:12,035 Speaker 1: once gave me the opportunity in two thousand and eight, 648 00:43:12,075 --> 00:43:16,155 Speaker 1: I think it was to go solo and leave Matthews out. 649 00:43:16,275 --> 00:43:19,915 Speaker 1: I said, no, See, he's too valuable for stuff like that. 650 00:43:20,275 --> 00:43:23,915 Speaker 1: You couldn't possibly get a researcher to give me that information. 651 00:43:24,275 --> 00:43:26,955 Speaker 1: It would not be genuine and it would not be timely. 652 00:43:27,435 --> 00:43:30,515 Speaker 1: Chris Matthews knows off the top of his head who 653 00:43:30,595 --> 00:43:33,595 Speaker 1: that is. He has no idea why he's important. He 654 00:43:33,675 --> 00:43:37,315 Speaker 1: has no idea whether he has served democracy or undermined it. 655 00:43:37,395 --> 00:43:39,675 Speaker 1: But he knows who the hell that guy is. Why 656 00:43:39,715 --> 00:43:45,755 Speaker 1: that's Milton J. Erseg the twenty third still Solicitor General 657 00:43:45,795 --> 00:43:53,075 Speaker 1: of Michigan A's two hundred and six. So, now, when 658 00:43:53,155 --> 00:43:58,155 Speaker 1: the former governor, then the governor of Michigan came into 659 00:43:58,195 --> 00:44:01,315 Speaker 1: this church at high noon with light coming in above her, 660 00:44:03,395 --> 00:44:10,995 Speaker 1: the great former governor of Michigan came in, he knew 661 00:44:11,035 --> 00:44:15,075 Speaker 1: exactly obviously who she was. We all knew who she was. 662 00:44:15,595 --> 00:44:19,915 Speaker 1: She was Jennifer Granholme. Jennifer Granholm, whose public career began 663 00:44:20,715 --> 00:44:25,115 Speaker 1: as the woman contestant on an episode of the Dating Game. 664 00:44:26,715 --> 00:44:31,715 Speaker 1: Jennifer Granholme was then on The Dating Game in the seventies. 665 00:44:32,595 --> 00:44:35,715 Speaker 1: Was in two thousand and six seven at the funerals 666 00:44:35,715 --> 00:44:44,115 Speaker 1: of Gerald R. Ford. Is today a most attractive woman, fetching, handsome, beautiful, 667 00:44:44,275 --> 00:44:47,315 Speaker 1: whichever word you would like to use that is both 668 00:44:47,355 --> 00:44:52,155 Speaker 1: complimentary and yet not sexist. Well, on that day she 669 00:44:52,435 --> 00:44:56,595 Speaker 1: appeared in a very formal kind of mourning hat and 670 00:44:56,795 --> 00:45:01,235 Speaker 1: a black dress, and the light shining from above her 671 00:45:01,795 --> 00:45:05,635 Speaker 1: was perfect, and she hit a perfect hair day, all 672 00:45:05,715 --> 00:45:09,755 Speaker 1: the things that could combine to render one essential element 673 00:45:09,795 --> 00:45:18,635 Speaker 1: to this story. He wasn't wrong. Matthews was reeling off 674 00:45:18,675 --> 00:45:20,715 Speaker 1: the names of these other people. And there's the front 675 00:45:20,795 --> 00:45:26,115 Speaker 1: row in which the former deputy assistant dogcatcher of Kalamazoos. 676 00:45:26,155 --> 00:45:30,315 Speaker 1: And then he saw Jennifer Granholm walk in, and he said, 677 00:45:31,155 --> 00:45:34,595 Speaker 1: and now we see coming down the aisle the former governor, 678 00:45:35,155 --> 00:45:39,875 Speaker 1: the governor of a He started to pant on the air. 679 00:45:41,355 --> 00:45:50,715 Speaker 1: It's Governor Jennifer Granholme and she's perfectly attired. This went 680 00:45:50,955 --> 00:45:55,115 Speaker 1: instantaneously from the usual Chris Matthews high speed patter to 681 00:45:55,275 --> 00:46:01,955 Speaker 1: something akin to Robert F. Kennedy Junior on FaceTime. There's 682 00:46:02,035 --> 00:46:04,515 Speaker 1: no other way to describe it. If you were just 683 00:46:04,755 --> 00:46:07,675 Speaker 1: listening to Chris Matthews, and everybody but me was just 684 00:46:07,795 --> 00:46:10,035 Speaker 1: listening to him. I was seated next to him in 685 00:46:10,075 --> 00:46:13,515 Speaker 1: a studio at NBC headquarters in Washington. I could see 686 00:46:13,515 --> 00:46:16,155 Speaker 1: the look on his face, the look of astonishment, him 687 00:46:16,195 --> 00:46:18,755 Speaker 1: putting his head down next to the monitor so he 688 00:46:18,835 --> 00:46:22,235 Speaker 1: could see her better. And as again I noted, she 689 00:46:22,555 --> 00:46:26,155 Speaker 1: was extremely fetching that day. In all of her great 690 00:46:26,275 --> 00:46:30,235 Speaker 1: days of fetch she was very fetched that day. This 691 00:46:30,435 --> 00:46:34,595 Speaker 1: is absolutely true. On the other hand, we are covering 692 00:46:35,275 --> 00:46:39,355 Speaker 1: the burial of the former President of the United States, 693 00:46:39,395 --> 00:46:43,635 Speaker 1: Gerald R. Ford, and Chris Matthews is panting about the 694 00:46:43,675 --> 00:46:48,595 Speaker 1: pulkratude of the Governor of Michigan, and he wouldn't stop 695 00:46:48,915 --> 00:46:51,075 Speaker 1: look at the shape of the dress and how the 696 00:46:51,155 --> 00:46:55,155 Speaker 1: light comes in through the whatever the word was for it, 697 00:46:55,195 --> 00:46:59,755 Speaker 1: of the church. And she's this event is he began 698 00:47:00,035 --> 00:47:03,155 Speaker 1: to lose the ability to form sentences. And I don't 699 00:47:03,155 --> 00:47:05,835 Speaker 1: mean in the normal way that he would lose the 700 00:47:05,875 --> 00:47:08,475 Speaker 1: ability to form sentences. I mean he would get to 701 00:47:08,795 --> 00:47:14,795 Speaker 1: part that They were clearly telling him to stop doing 702 00:47:14,835 --> 00:47:19,075 Speaker 1: this because it was not just sexist and not just inappropriate. 703 00:47:19,115 --> 00:47:23,155 Speaker 1: But we were covering the burial of Gerald R. Ford, 704 00:47:23,195 --> 00:47:26,595 Speaker 1: I mean in the front row next to as we 705 00:47:26,675 --> 00:47:30,435 Speaker 1: continued the shot of Governor Granholm on a pool camera. 706 00:47:30,475 --> 00:47:32,995 Speaker 1: I must admit that nobody at NBC said, yeah, I 707 00:47:32,995 --> 00:47:36,755 Speaker 1: got me more of that hot governor. As the pool 708 00:47:36,795 --> 00:47:39,755 Speaker 1: shot gave us this of Governor Granholm, there was a 709 00:47:39,995 --> 00:47:44,955 Speaker 1: coffin out there with Gerald R. Ford inside, and he's 710 00:47:44,995 --> 00:47:48,395 Speaker 1: talking about Governor Granholm and how great she looks. I 711 00:47:48,435 --> 00:47:51,955 Speaker 1: can't imagine that anytime she should just hope they took 712 00:47:52,155 --> 00:47:55,875 Speaker 1: photographs of her for her next campaign for whatever. It's like, 713 00:47:55,995 --> 00:47:58,675 Speaker 1: oh my good God. And they're clearly talking to him 714 00:47:58,715 --> 00:48:01,035 Speaker 1: from the control room, telling him to stop, because every 715 00:48:01,035 --> 00:48:04,155 Speaker 1: once in a while he stops and speaks to them 716 00:48:04,275 --> 00:48:07,795 Speaker 1: like no, oh, no, I won't. And finally the producer 717 00:48:07,835 --> 00:48:11,555 Speaker 1: of this Court Harson, who was the producer of Hardball 718 00:48:11,595 --> 00:48:15,755 Speaker 1: Matthew's show on MSNBC, gets into my ear and says, 719 00:48:15,915 --> 00:48:17,755 Speaker 1: for God's sake, is there anything you can do? Can 720 00:48:17,835 --> 00:48:20,235 Speaker 1: you stop him? And I just looked at the camera 721 00:48:20,235 --> 00:48:22,435 Speaker 1: and shook my head and put my arms up in 722 00:48:22,515 --> 00:48:25,115 Speaker 1: what would be the you know, hands up, nothing I 723 00:48:25,115 --> 00:48:28,275 Speaker 1: can do about it emoji. I may have been the 724 00:48:28,275 --> 00:48:30,475 Speaker 1: model for that emoji. This is two thousand and six 725 00:48:30,635 --> 00:48:35,155 Speaker 1: or seven, after all. And they said, can you try? 726 00:48:35,235 --> 00:48:37,915 Speaker 1: Can you write him a note or something? So I 727 00:48:37,955 --> 00:48:40,435 Speaker 1: took a piece of script and I wrote on the 728 00:48:40,475 --> 00:48:46,795 Speaker 1: back of it Chris stopped talking about Grand Holme that way, 729 00:48:47,875 --> 00:48:53,555 Speaker 1: we are at a presidential funeral, and I underlined we 730 00:48:53,795 --> 00:48:56,315 Speaker 1: are at one two three line at one two three 731 00:48:56,355 --> 00:48:59,835 Speaker 1: line A one two three presidential one two three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 732 00:48:59,875 --> 00:49:04,355 Speaker 1: ten lines under that funeral circled and I slipped it 733 00:49:04,355 --> 00:49:07,235 Speaker 1: to him, and he kept talking about her, and he 734 00:49:07,275 --> 00:49:11,675 Speaker 1: looked at me, paused and nodded yes, like I was 735 00:49:11,795 --> 00:49:18,475 Speaker 1: asking him a question. About five minutes later, we threw 736 00:49:18,515 --> 00:49:21,955 Speaker 1: to a break and I saw one of the executives 737 00:49:21,995 --> 00:49:25,675 Speaker 1: of MSNBC come out and tell Chris that he had 738 00:49:25,675 --> 00:49:29,835 Speaker 1: to go and prepare Hardball for later that afternoon, and 739 00:49:29,875 --> 00:49:32,675 Speaker 1: that the rest of the thing would be anchored by me. 740 00:49:34,315 --> 00:49:37,075 Speaker 1: So every time and they did the pool camera go 741 00:49:37,195 --> 00:49:42,395 Speaker 1: back to reaction shots of Governor Granholm. I made sure 742 00:49:42,555 --> 00:49:44,715 Speaker 1: that that piece of paper that I had handed Chris 743 00:49:44,875 --> 00:49:47,595 Speaker 1: to which he thought was some sort of some sort 744 00:49:47,635 --> 00:49:51,275 Speaker 1: of question like are we at a president at funeral, 745 00:49:52,235 --> 00:49:55,555 Speaker 1: not an admonition that he was making an absolute jack 746 00:49:55,635 --> 00:49:59,795 Speaker 1: wad out of himself. I kept that note in front 747 00:49:59,835 --> 00:50:01,955 Speaker 1: of me, just in case I veered back into this. 748 00:50:04,875 --> 00:50:07,555 Speaker 1: I later told this story to Governor Granholm, who was 749 00:50:07,595 --> 00:50:11,515 Speaker 1: briefly a colleague of mine, Although you wouldn't remember this 750 00:50:11,595 --> 00:50:13,835 Speaker 1: because the network no longer exists, and I don't know 751 00:50:13,875 --> 00:50:16,435 Speaker 1: by that point if ten thousand people were watching our 752 00:50:16,475 --> 00:50:18,395 Speaker 1: shows on it, but it was a colleague of mine 753 00:50:18,435 --> 00:50:21,355 Speaker 1: on current TV. Even as I was trying to explain 754 00:50:21,395 --> 00:50:24,515 Speaker 1: to her, don't take this job. They're never going to 755 00:50:24,555 --> 00:50:28,755 Speaker 1: pay you. They're already running out of money. Jennifer Granholme 756 00:50:30,035 --> 00:50:34,835 Speaker 1: laughed coquettishly and said, Oh, that's not the first time 757 00:50:34,875 --> 00:50:51,675 Speaker 1: that's ever happened. I've done all the damage I can 758 00:50:51,715 --> 00:50:53,875 Speaker 1: do here. Thank you for listening. Most of our Countdown 759 00:50:53,915 --> 00:50:56,515 Speaker 1: music was arranged, produced, and performed by Brian Ray and 760 00:50:56,595 --> 00:50:59,755 Speaker 1: John Phillip Schaneil, our musical directors of Countdown. It was 761 00:50:59,795 --> 00:51:03,355 Speaker 1: produced by Tko Brothers. Mister Ray was on the guitars, 762 00:51:03,435 --> 00:51:06,795 Speaker 1: bass and drums, and mister Shanail handled orchestration and keyboards. 763 00:51:07,155 --> 00:51:09,915 Speaker 1: Our satirical and pithy musical comments are by the best 764 00:51:09,915 --> 00:51:13,475 Speaker 1: baseball stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust. You heard her with 765 00:51:13,595 --> 00:51:16,555 Speaker 1: I Fought the Law and the Law one. The Olderman 766 00:51:16,675 --> 00:51:19,675 Speaker 1: theme from ESPN two was written by Mitch Warren Davis 767 00:51:19,875 --> 00:51:23,115 Speaker 1: courtesy of ESPN, Inc. It is our sports music. Other 768 00:51:23,235 --> 00:51:26,075 Speaker 1: music arranged and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. 769 00:51:26,515 --> 00:51:29,435 Speaker 1: My announcer today was my friend Chris matt Oh No, sorry, 770 00:51:29,435 --> 00:51:33,875 Speaker 1: that was Tony Kornheiser. Huh. Everything else was as always 771 00:51:34,315 --> 00:51:37,435 Speaker 1: my fault, so that's Countdown for Today, Day three hundred 772 00:51:37,435 --> 00:51:41,915 Speaker 1: and twenty six of America held hostage again, just thirty 773 00:51:41,955 --> 00:51:44,995 Speaker 1: seven days until the scheduled end of his lame duck 774 00:51:45,035 --> 00:51:49,315 Speaker 1: and lame brained term, unless he's removed sooner by Maga 775 00:51:49,395 --> 00:51:53,795 Speaker 1: and Epstein or Anosagnosia or Taile and All, or affordability 776 00:51:54,115 --> 00:51:58,435 Speaker 1: or the second Strike video. The next scheduled episode of 777 00:51:58,435 --> 00:52:01,515 Speaker 1: the program is Monday till then. I'm Keith Olderman. Good morning, 778 00:52:01,515 --> 00:52:10,275 Speaker 1: good afternoon, good night, and good luck. Countdown with Keith 779 00:52:10,315 --> 00:52:15,355 Speaker 1: Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. 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