1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of the Clay Travis 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton Show. Just Me today, mister Buck aka 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: the Buckster, aka the one hundred and three mile per 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: hour serve tennis man, as I'm known by many, Many 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: people are saying one hundred three miles an hour. Clay 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: is out this week. He is on a super secret 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: special mission. That is all I'm allowed to say. But 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: he's with his family, he's having a great time, and 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: he may may be calling in later in the week 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: from undisclosed places abroad to just say hi to everybody, 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: because he will miss all of you. But it is 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: just me here. I have the calm, as they say, 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: and I plan on taking you on a wonderful journey here, 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: a magical journey of all of the news stories of 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: the day and the most important things that we need 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: to be thinking about, learning about and discussing here and 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: to that end, eight hundred two ay two to two 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: eight A two you A on the phone lines. Love 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: those talkbacks on the iHeart app as well. Our guests today, 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Miranda Divine in the second hour, one of my favorite 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: voices in the world of audio. I will say that 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: she's got a great voice, great just speaking voice, and 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: also a fantastic reporter. More importantly, so she'll talk to 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: us about the New York Post reporting on the would 25 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: be Trump assassin who almost plunged this country into the 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: worst situation it would have seen since the Civil War. 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Missed by an inch, a literal inch. I know some 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: of your say it was even less than an inch, 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: but we can say an inch. How is it that 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: not everything about this guy's online life was known? It 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: seems unfathomable. We'll talk to Miranda about that. We've also 32 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: got Eric Trump, son of one of these sons of 33 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: the president, in the third hour. We're talking about the economy, 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: trade deals, and much more. But I know that there's 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: going to be quite a bit of focus on this today, 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: so yes, I will certainly speak about what is being 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: called the Epstein Files Transparency Act that is going to 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: be voted on in the third hour of the show today. 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: So I believe I'll be here live with you on 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: the air as we find out where that's going. I 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: think the vote is going to be successful and there 42 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: will be more documents released relating to the Jeffrey Epstein investigation. 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: To be clear, Donald Trump has said in recent days, 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: including yesterday, that fine, and we want to release more, 45 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: release whatever, release, whatever you got. This is cut for 46 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: and Trump, I think, has just recognized the only way 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: to stop having to talk about this is to give 48 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: whatever transparency anyone thinks they need. Fine, no problem there, 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: play four. It's just a. 50 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: Russia, Russia, Russia hopes as it pertains of the Republicans. 51 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Now. 52 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: I believe that many of the people that some of 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: the people that we mentioned are being looked at very 54 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: seriously for their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein, But they were 55 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: with them all the time. I wasn't at all, and 56 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. What I just don't want Epstein 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: to do is detract from the great success of the 58 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: Republican Party, including the fact that the Democrats are totally 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: blamed for the shutdown. You know, they crossed our country 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: hundreds of billions of dollars with that at a lot 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: of inconvenience. 62 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: So very important. At first of all, Trump has obviously 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: got a cold. Is the voice little raspy there? Or 64 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: maybe he was just speaking too much? I know that 65 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: can happen in the radio world, but it's funny. So 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: how many Trump is going to be eighty soon. I 67 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: know he's like seventy eight. I think'd be seventy nine maybe, 68 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: But how many times have you heard him being sick 69 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: in the time he's been president. It's very, very rare. 70 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: The guy is a dynamo. Everybody around him recognize. I 71 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: just marvel at the amount of energy and focus and 72 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: drive that he has at his age. It is true. 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: Whatever one thinks of Trump's policies, I obviously think they're 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. It's incredible to be his age and to 75 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: have that level of energy and all the rest. But 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: what Trump said there, I think this is very important. 77 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: And notice he said, as it pertains to Republicans, the 78 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein thing is a hoax. And this is what 79 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: I think some people have missed and gotten a little 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: upset about, even some Trump supporters. Obviously, there's no the 81 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein situation. Trump doesn't think is a hoax. He 82 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: was a sex criminal, a human trafficker, you know, an 83 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: exploiter of underage women. I mean, all these terrible things. 84 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: But the Democrats are trying to create a story and 85 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: to use the story for pure distraction purposes of well 86 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: this it's really about It's really about Trump or any Republican. Now, 87 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: I just saw you. You had, you know Larry Summers, 88 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: who was the former Treasury secretary under Clinton, right or 89 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: is it Obama? I can't remember now it's been a while, 90 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: but his former Treasury secretary. I think he's stepping back 91 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: after some of these emails have come out. There's nothing, 92 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing that is alleged that is criminal, but there 93 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: are certainly is stuff that looks bad for him. I 94 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: think you may see some more of that. What I 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: think Trump wants everyone to be very clear on is 96 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: look at the people who have continuous and deep associations 97 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: with Epstein, not who you know bumped into him at party. 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: He went to a lot of parties, a lot of 99 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: parties in Palm Beach's, a lot of parties in New 100 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: York and other places where he was gonna rub elbows. 101 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: The guy had hundreds of millions of dollars. He was 102 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: able to get tremendous access to the absolute elite in 103 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: our society. So that was happening. We all know that. 104 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: That's a matter of public record. Oh no, wonders was 105 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: confusing for me. Larry Summers served under both Bill Clinton 106 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: and Barack Obama's administrations. He was what was he? He 107 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: was Secretary of the Treasury. Yup? Under Clinton, I was right, 108 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: Deputy Secretary of the Treasury, and unders at whatever point 109 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: is he's a big, big guy in Democrat politics under 110 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: Democrat administrations. Look at the other figures who have gotten 111 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: at least big pr damage. And I know a lot 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: of you are saying, well, that's not you know that 113 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: where we're looking for criminality, the evidence of smoking government 114 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: evidence of criminality, we don't have that yet. We had it, 115 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: I think you would see, you would see charges, but 116 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: at least I haven't seen it. We have to be 117 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: very careful here too. You know, people they're trying to 118 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: smear Trump by association, there are other people they want 119 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: to smear by association too, And this is the kind 120 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: of stuff that could really, in some cases unfairly destroy 121 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: someone's reputation. So you got to be sure. You got 122 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: to be sure on this stuff, right. This isn't oh, 123 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: did somebody cheat a little bit on their taxes. This 124 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: is this goes to the core and the reputations and 125 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: the freedom, meaning they could go to prison of individuals. 126 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: So that's I think not going to be addressed by 127 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: anything that are in this release. I could be wrong. 128 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, I'll say so. I obviously haven't seen 129 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: all the files. I don't know, but Trump has been 130 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: making the point if there was more in the files 131 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: specifically about Trump, do you think they'd hide it until now? 132 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: That's a crazy belief, right that the Democrats would have 133 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: had full control, full ability to go through this. They 134 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: don't want to release it all as it pertains to 135 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: actual transparency, because they'd much rather have little bits and 136 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: pieces to try to insinuate that Donald Trump did something wrong. 137 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: And I have a firm belief and all the evidence 138 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: supports what I've said, and all of the the trajectory 139 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: of the revelations around epstein'support that Donald Trump did nothing wrong. Okay, 140 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: in fact, you can argue Trump is the good guy 141 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: because he kicked Epstein out of his club for being 142 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: a creep? Did anybody else do it? You know? Was 143 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: there anybody else who was stepping up and saying, this 144 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: guy's a you know? And that was before the big 145 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: criminal stuff against him. So that's where I think this is. 146 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: Here is Trump saying, just just to hammer this home here, 147 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: this has cut five. He's just saying, look the Democrat, 148 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: Epstein's top connections, Epstein's close associates. I'm not saying anyone 149 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: did anything specifically, or I'm not naming any individual with 150 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: criminality because we don't have proof of that. You need 151 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: proof of these things. But the people who were gross 152 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: and around him a lot, they were Democrats. Play five. 153 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: We have nothing to do with Fstein. The Democrats too. 154 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 2: All of his friends were Democrats. You look at this reduff, 155 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: and you look at Larry Summers built Lynn and they 156 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: went to his island all the time, and many of 157 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: this all Democrats. All I want is I want for 158 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: people to recognize a great job that I've done on pricing, 159 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: on affordability, because we've brought prices way down, but they 160 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 2: go way lower on the energy. On ending eight wars 161 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: and another one coming pretty soon. I believe we've done 162 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: a great job, and I hate to see that deflect 163 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: from the great job we've done. 164 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: I think that's all spot on. I think that's exactly 165 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: where the situation is right now. And to be clear, 166 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: Trump has said release it all, fine, release it all, 167 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is. He's not opposing the release. He's like, fine, 168 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: release it all because he also knows, even if he 169 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: doesn't specifically know what's in those spots, he knows what 170 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: he did and didn't do. He knows he didn't do 171 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: anything wrong. Okay, and beyond that, he also knows that 172 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: his enemies who manufactured crimes against him manufactured them. They 173 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: would have, if they had anything, deployed this to destroy him, 174 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: even if there was a forget about a smoking gun, 175 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: if there was a sentilla of evidence that Trump was 176 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: even in the immediate vicinity of any kind of you know, 177 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: criminal conspiracy with regard to Epstein, they would have been 178 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: running with that NonStop. They don't have it. They don't 179 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: have it, so fine, we'll get to this point. I 180 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: do think it has been an exercise in media propaganda 181 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: by focus, as in how much they focus on something 182 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: itself is the propaganda tool. They focus so much they 183 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: try to connect to Donald Trump, and they did before 184 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: as well. Look at all all the top associates of 185 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: Epstein again associates slash friends. Not imputing criminality to anybody 186 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: because we don't have evidence against these individuals, right, Trump 187 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: isn't saying that they were criminal. He's just saying they 188 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: were gross and they were around him, gross as in, 189 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: they should have known that this guy was sleazy and 190 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: they spent too much time alone with him. I know 191 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: a lot of you you know, there's what we can 192 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: there's what you know, remember Denzel Washington and training Day. 193 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: There's what you know, and there's what you can prove. 194 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: We have to operate in the realm of what we 195 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: can prove if we're going to make a specific accusation 196 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: against an individual that would destroy them. Notice that's not 197 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: what Trump is doing. He's saying, listen to the names 198 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: of these individuals. We know they hung out with him 199 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: a lot. They're all Democrats, they're all big Democrat donors. 200 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: They are all very left wing in their politics, or 201 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: generally left wing in their politics. Certainly they're Democrats, and 202 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: there's no focus on that whatsoever. Bill Clinton spent a 203 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of time with this guy on the planes, a 204 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: lot of time. We know that. Okay, that's a fact. 205 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: That's it. That's an understood fact. Larry Summers was asking 206 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: this guy for advice on I believe, like how he 207 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: could step stepping out on his wife with a a 208 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: a Asian or Chinese uh Men mentee, like a mentor 209 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: mentee relationship who has a close relationship with the CCP, 210 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: with the Chinese Communist Party, as you know. So there's 211 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: there's the criminal, there's also just the unethical and the 212 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: sleazy these do you have to parse all these things? 213 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: And look, I hope we just get whatever information we 214 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: need to know everything about this that we can know. 215 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you this, I don't think there's 216 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: a lot that's in those files that's going to be released. 217 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: I have I think they absolutely should be released at 218 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: this point. Fine, Trump says this should be released. Fine, 219 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: And I think that anything that would have been smoking 220 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: gun has long it's been and I don't even know 221 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: at what part in the in the chain, so to speak, 222 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: but as long since been covered up and erased and uh, 223 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, whatever the whatever the tapes were, it's et cetera. 224 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: All that I think has has occurred here. So we 225 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: have to we have to be specific, we have to 226 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: be clear. I also completely agree with Trump that there 227 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: must be a real degree of frustration. There must be 228 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: considerable frustration from his administration for the things that they 229 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: are doing that affect all Americans and Democrats get to 230 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: play this, uh, you know, Chase the shiny object game 231 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: with Oh but look at there's a there's a Trump 232 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: Epstein email or something. Uh, he knows. The shutdown was 233 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: a disaster for Democrats. They're used to winning those kind 234 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: of battles, at least in the public's view, because of 235 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: the advantage they have with propaganda in the media. That 236 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: didn't happen this time. Schumer. Schumer looks like a schmo, 237 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: and that's something that Democrats weren't anticipating going into the 238 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: midterm election year. But affordability, prices, the border, the war 239 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: on drugs, the war on fentanyl, there's a lot that's 240 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: happening right now that is really really important, and I 241 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: do think that is where we should spend a good 242 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: portion of our time today here. But by all means, 243 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: if you have something that you want a weigh in with, 244 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: you can let us know. You can email us about 245 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: this release of these files, and all right, let's see 246 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: what they've got. 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But 275 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: just a few more notes on this before I moved 276 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: to some other topics that we have in the hopper 277 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: for today. A Speaker of the House, Johnson is saying, 278 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: straight up, this is just Democrats playing politics play twenty seven. 279 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: With so many pressing issues on our plate, just very 280 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: frustratingly to us, the Democrats are delaying that work even 281 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: further with a political show vote. They're forcing a political 282 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: show vote on the Epstein File. So we're just going 283 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: to address that right at the top here this morning, 284 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: because they've spent so much time, the Democrats have spinning 285 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 4: the facts and trying to confuse the people. 286 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: It's true, it's true. You'll notice that there's really very 287 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: little discussion about how the if you are creating a 288 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: We used to do these link charts back in the 289 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: my NYPD days. Right, Well, people link charts all the time, 290 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: but I remember we use link charts for terror cells, 291 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: criminal conspiracy of any kind. If you were creating the 292 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: the uh you know, if Epstein is the is the 293 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: kingpin of the criminal conspiracy, which he is, and then 294 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: you were creating an associates link tree off of him, 295 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: how many of them would be prominent Democrats? All of them? 296 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: Basically is there is there anybody? Isn't that interesting? You 297 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: look at people, who is the who is the really big? 298 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 2: Right? 299 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: Oh, they're gonna say Donald Trump. First of all, Donald 300 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: Trump is you know, used to be a Democrat and 301 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: second of all a long time ago. And second of all, 302 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: what exactly is the is the association that they're referring to? Uh? 303 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: Where where is the close and continuing proximity that you've 304 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: seen with people like Bill Clinton? Doesn't exist? So I 305 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: I just think that we need to put this in 306 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: the realm of facts, in reality at all times. And 307 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: like I said, we'll see where this vote goes, and 308 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: we'll bring this to you later on. I've said it before, 309 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: at it again. You need energy for your every day 310 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: getting through it, getting after it. Get a chalk subscription 311 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: These supplements are incredible. 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Yes, 331 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: of course, and we may join some of that. Actually, 332 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna we're gonna 333 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: take it piece by piece. The team is gonna monitor it. 334 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: It's happening live right now, and any of the important 335 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: takeaways from it we will bring to you momentarily, so 336 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: to see we sift through, we bring you only the best, 337 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like we're in the 338 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: grocery store, only picking from the good part of the 339 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: of the fruit and the vegetables or whatever. We bring 340 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: you only the best. But I because right now it's 341 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: a lot of pleasantries and stuff. You know, all Trump 342 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: meetings are interesting, but it's you know, he's great, I'm great, 343 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: great relationship, we love each other, you know, the whole thing. 344 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: So we'll get into that. But in the meantime, this 345 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting. I think we mention this 346 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: to you, We mentioned this to you last week, but 347 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: I don't think we played this. And I wanted to 348 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: play it because I have been making this case for 349 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: a long time. And actually it's a good moment to 350 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 1: bring it up because my book is now available for 351 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: pre sale and we'll have a link up there. The 352 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: book is Manufacturing Delusion. It comes out officially February seventeenth 353 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: of next year, which I know it seems like it's 354 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: a ways away, but we're about to be in the holiday. 355 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: It's gonna fly by. And look, I'll tell you this, 356 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: pre sales are really important. I have waited this long 357 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: to put out a book, a real full length book, 358 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: because I insisted on writing it myself. I only wanted 359 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: to write if I could do something that I thought 360 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: was important and worthwhile. And I'll be telling you, oh up, 361 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: it's up now at clayanbuck dot com. You can go 362 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: get some pre order copies. And like I said, preorder 363 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: matters because that's how much the publisher then prepares for 364 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: that run. And we don't want to run out of 365 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: books because it's books are a lot like movie now 366 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: in that they live or die in the first few 367 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: days of release. That's really how it goes. And I 368 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: really wanted this to I think this book is important. 369 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I got it cleared by the CIA. Obviously, 370 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: I've talked about some of my CIA history, so I 371 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: got it cleared by the CIA. There is some stuff 372 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: in there that I've never talked about publicly before from 373 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: my time in the CIA. Those you've asked me for 374 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: some stories or what can you tell me? There's some 375 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: pretty interesting stuff in there, not a lot, because it's 376 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: mostly about the subject matter, but I brought in some 377 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: anecdotes too. So it's up at clayanbuck dot com. You 378 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: can get that link, or you can click that link 379 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: and and please go buy some copies of this early 380 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: and that way it'll be a huge success. Why am 381 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: I writing Why was it writing up Manufacturing Delusion? I 382 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: think that left wing politics in America has created a 383 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: unfortunately dangerous new moment where mass delusion is the preferred 384 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: weapon of mobilization. They make people crazy, They make them 385 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: crazy on purpose. Totalitarian regimes have been doing this for 386 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: a long time. In fact, the History and Science of 387 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: Mind Control it's the real thing. I get into this 388 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: in the book History and Science of Mind Control and 389 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: its implementation and perfecting, if you will, over time by 390 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: totalitarian regimes have gone hand in hand over the last 391 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: hundred years. And he had just at the beginnings of 392 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: us understanding. I mean, I started the book with the 393 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: celebrated scientist Pavlov. People always talking about Pavlov well, what 394 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: if this guy released does what was he really doing? 395 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: What was he up to? And interestingly enough, Pavlov comes 396 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: into into scientific focus in the early nineteen hundreds and 397 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: is a Nobel Laurate and is studying, Hey, how is 398 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: it that things that you observe can affect you physically? 399 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: How is it that outside stimula we think of the 400 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: of the bell, it actually was a metronome or a buzzer. 401 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't No one was hitting a bell. And the 402 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: experiments he did on dogs were actually, in some cases 403 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: quite grizzly. So there's there's some stuff that they didn't 404 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: teach you about Pavlov in you know, eighth grade science 405 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: class that I get into. But understanding how propaganda, how 406 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: outside stimuli, how brainwashing actually scientifically and in practice works, 407 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: is what the book is about. And I think that's 408 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: very important, not just in general in America right now, 409 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: but it's important. This week, we saw this guy who 410 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to Miranda Devine about this at one o'clock, 411 00:23:54,119 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: this guy who became a according to the latest reporting, a 412 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: they them furry obsessed left wing trantifa lunatic, tried to 413 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: kill the president to day. It came very very close. Right, 414 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: It's not just a guy who was writing insane stuff 415 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: in his basement somewhere. It's a guy who came in 416 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: inch away, an inch away from killing a United States president, 417 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: stopping a US election from happening in real time, changing 418 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: the course of the country. And I just I don't 419 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: know how better to say it than plunging us into 420 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: the abyss. I don't know what happens to this country. 421 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: We're still reeling, we're still processing and grieving for the 422 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk, the most important conservative activist 423 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: in the country. We were an inch away from losing 424 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: the most important conservative politician or right wing politician and 425 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: leader of our lifetime as well within a twelve month span. 426 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: Something very wrong is happening here and we're all very 427 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: aware of it. And I saw a lot of this. 428 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: I can't say the specifics obviously of the individuals that 429 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: they've targeted, although we all knew they were targeting Trump. 430 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: But I saw a lot of this madness unfolding, and 431 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: that is why I wrote the book. On Fox News 432 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: though just a few days ago, they had a a 433 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: psychiatrist or psychotherapist who was on who was speaking about this. 434 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: This is not hyperbole. This is not uh, you know, 435 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: talk radio rage or something. Not anyway, this show. We 436 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: don't do rage here, right, We're just Clay and I. 437 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: We tell you, We just give give you what we 438 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: think is true and important every day and we're we 439 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: always shoot straight with you. You know. Oh there's more 440 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: talk radio stuff though, that's just what lets his leftist 441 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: agit prop. That's nonsense, you know. Oh they said the 442 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: same thing about Rush for thirty years. But here he 443 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: is saying this. Fox News guest Jonathan Alpert saying that 444 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: venty five percent of the patients that he sees are 445 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: hyper fixated on Trump. Listen to this play nineteen. 446 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 5: People are obsessed with Trump. They're fixated. They're hyper fixated 447 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: on Trump, and they talk about some of the features 448 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 5: of this disorder. They can't sleep, they feel traumatized by 449 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 5: mister Trump, they feel restless. I had one patient who 450 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 5: said she couldn't enjoy a vacation because anytime she saw 451 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 5: Trump and the news or on her device, she felt triggered. 452 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 5: So this is a profound pathology, and I would even 453 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 5: go so far as to call it the defining pathology. 454 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: Of our time, defining pathology of our time. That Trump 455 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: derangement syndrome is a mass psychosis, a mass psychosis that 456 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: has been manufactured, manufactured using similar tactics to what you 457 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: would see in an authoritarian regime like communists China and 458 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: the cultural revolution like the Soviet Union, and Stalinism like 459 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: North Korea and the worship of the Kim dynasty. This 460 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: is the book, my friends, I lay it out for you. 461 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: This is what is happening, this gentleman, this psychotherapist. It 462 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: is clear, it is clear that something has gone very 463 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: wrong on our politics. People are obsessive, clinically obsessive in 464 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: their hatred for Donald Trump. And that's why I wrote 465 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: Manufacturing Delusion. This is a delusion that is being created 466 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: intentionally for control, for political purposes. There are tactics, there 467 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 1: is a playbook, and they're doing this very unfortunately for 468 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: us successfully, and we see some of the worst outcomes, 469 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: some of the worst effects of this process with things 470 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: like these trantifemaniacs are going out there because things like 471 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: the constant lies about men becoming women, for example, and 472 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: how remember that's just the first step of the process, 473 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: and the first step of the process is to get 474 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: you to say something that you know to be untrue, 475 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: to break your tether if you will, to reality. I mean, 476 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: there's a there's a quote that I came across from 477 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: my research for the book that the real, the sort 478 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: of the real skill out there is not convincing people 479 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: that they should that they should scale amount and it's 480 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: convincing people that there is no mountain right. That's real control. 481 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: It's not just getting them to do something, it's getting 482 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: them to change their perception of reality itself. There are 483 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: people who are losing sleep at night because I think 484 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: that climate change is going to make us extinct. That's 485 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: a real phenomena on the left. There's no equivalent on 486 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: the right. Think about that climate extinction anxiety. There are 487 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: people who won't have children now because of what the 488 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: left has done to them. There are people who think 489 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: that there is a genocide, and that is the term 490 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: they use against trans people, because we don't think that 491 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: a two hundred pound bearded man should be having a 492 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: bench press contest with girls. Think about the beliefs, and 493 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: then of course I get into some of this with COVID. 494 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: The madness of the Fauciism that was all part of 495 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: the playbook. It was all meant to condition by the way, 496 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: condition reflex the actual Pavlovian, the actual Pavlovian, you know, 497 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: term and history conditional reflex. In fact, it was in 498 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 1: the original Russian. Like I said, you will learn a 499 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: lot in this book. I did a ton of research 500 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: in this book. It is called Manufacturing Delusion. It is 501 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: available for pre sale now, and I would ask you 502 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: to please get a copy now so that we don't 503 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: run out when everyone's trying to get it the week 504 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: that it's released, which I know is in February, but 505 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: just do it now while you're thinking about it. I'll 506 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: be talking about it more on the show. But this 507 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: stuff really matters. I think that manufactured delusion. I think 508 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: that manufactured mass hysteria is the single greatest threat to 509 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: humanity globally and the single biggest threat to the American Republic. 510 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: Right now. We're not going to starve to death. We 511 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: can handle all the you know, we can handle whatever pandemics. 512 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: We just went through one. We all know what the 513 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: reality was of that. We can handle everything else. The 514 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: world is not going to melt. But we can't handle insanity. 515 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: Mass insanity that sees that seizes control of the apparatus, 516 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: that to lie, that forces you to live by lies 517 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: that can destroy us entirely. And you'll notice the notice 518 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: we're living in it. The reality of anti Trumpism, day 519 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: in and day out, is rooted in is of absurdity, lies, 520 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: a constant Russia collusion hoax, the preposterous prosecutions, the lies 521 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: that he's you know, that he has something to hide 522 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: with Epstein, all of this stuff. To a lot of us, 523 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: it's just annoying because you you choose to listen to 524 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: this show, you choose to stay firmly rooted in reality. 525 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: But how many people that you know who voted for 526 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris in this last election? How many leftists for 527 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: those of you especially who live in big blue states, 528 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: how many leftists do you come across who believe the 529 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: most absurd and insane things because they've been told to 530 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: and become irrational, become enraged, almost like they've been brought 531 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: into a cult, because that's actually what has happened. And 532 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: I get into some of those processes too. The whole 533 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: point is to override that connection to reality that the listener, 534 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: that the subject, the target has, because then you can 535 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 1: rewrite the underlying programming. Then you can this is this 536 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: is China, this is mause revolution, break people down, break 537 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: them down with fear, break them down with isolation, a 538 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: constant assault on their senses of lies, and then you 539 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: try to rewrite what's there. Then you try to build 540 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: them into the new Soviet Man, which was the whole 541 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: project of the Soviet Union. This has all been done before, 542 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: and you need to know how it was done then 543 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: and how it is being done now. And that is 544 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: manufacturing delusion. That is my book, and I want you 545 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: to please It's up at clan Buck, but you can 546 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: get on Amazon clanbuck dot com, but you can get 547 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: on Amazon, get it anywhere. 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Brandon Divine, who had that huge report 584 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: New York Post about the truth of the would be 585 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: trumpets at Remember there were It's a little confusing when 586 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: we talk about this. There were two would be Trump 587 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: assassin's but one got shots off and shot him through 588 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: the year. That one, as we know, who got killed 589 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: obviously in the attempt. Information about him that how is 590 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: it possible the FBI could have missed this? We're going 591 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: to talk about that. Also, you're gonna have to just 592 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: bear with me here. We don't have time to play 593 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: for right now. Trump getting a little spicy, a little 594 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: spicy in the Oval office. Some people are saying, hadding 595 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:32,399 Speaker 1: a little spice, little jalapeno, perhaps delicious jalapeno. We will 596 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: bring you some of those soundbites here coming up, and 597 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: also in the back of the next hour we'll get 598 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: to some more some more of the talkbacks and things 599 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: we have a d D here, Joseph from Columbus, Georgia. 600 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: Let's play it. 601 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 7: What I take it away from all of this is 602 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 7: that Trump has learned considerably from his first term in 603 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 7: office and how to deal with the media. 604 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: He shuts down the hostile. 605 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 7: Reporters and zero's right in on the heart of the 606 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 7: matter where they tried taking out left field and make 607 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 7: him look bad. And I think that he's also surrounded 608 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 7: hisself with some sharp, savvy people that protect him and 609 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 7: help him to navigate the shark infested waters. 610 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: Well, yes, I mean, I think. I think Trump was 611 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: always a phenomenon of his own at dealing with the media, 612 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: but now he's he was fighting an uphill battle against 613 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: them in the first term. Now he's on offense and 614 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: they're trying to run away in a route. So it's 615 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: a different dynamic now. But I hear what you're saying, 616 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: and you know, Trump, his ability to deal with the 617 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: media is incredible, all right, Mirandon Vine coming up next 618 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: big reporting on the almost assassin of Donald Trump. We 619 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 1: will discuss that. Stay around for that coming up.