1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM On iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Isaac Weishaup stays with us. He's the host of Accult 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Symbolism and Pop Culture podcast. You can get more information 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 2: at Illuminati watcher dot com Illuminati watcher dot com. We're 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: talking about CERN, the Large Hadron Collider and connections to 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: the occult, and we were discussing this large statue of 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: the Hindu deity Shiva, the god of destruction and creation, 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: outside of CERN, and then we go back to a 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: video that surfaces about ten years ago in twenty sixteen. 10 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: It's since has it's since resurfaced on YouTube and other 11 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: social media platforms, which shows someone taking a video at 12 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: night outside of the CERN building and we see the 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: statue of Shiva. We see these hooded figures on the grounds, 14 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: and then suddenly it appears to be a young woman 15 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: in a white gown of some sort lies down on 16 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 2: the ground and one of these hooded figures walks over 17 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: to her and it appears to stab her. It looks 18 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: all the world like some sort of accult ritual, perhaps 19 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: a human sacrifice, right there beneath the statue of Shiva. 20 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: What do you make of that video when you first 21 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: saw it? What did you make of it when. 22 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: I first saw it back back when this was trending 23 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: online and stuff. You know, I'm actually fairly rational. I 24 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: don't really buy into most conspiracies. I do find them interesting, 25 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: so I research them all and some have a little 26 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: more weight than others. But this one in particular, I 27 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 3: kind of thought, I don't know, it just seemed like 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: a silly publicity stump. But you know, ask me again 29 00:01:58,560 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: now that there's ten years. 30 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: Later and I'm reading these emails. 31 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 3: And all these files about crazy stuff going on with 32 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: very rich and powerful people. Now I'm a little more 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: a little more concerned that maybe this was a real 34 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: thing we saw in the sense that this is actually 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: how a lot of these sort of ceremonies would take place. Right, 36 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: You've got the black robes, and this woman was was 37 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 3: you know, like you said, there was a there was 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: a blade, there there was a dagger, and this is 39 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: this is used in magical ceremonies. 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: It's called an an a fame, right, and. 41 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: Supposedly this was a you know, certain came out and 42 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: said this was a hoax, prank video and all that. 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: But I mean that that's to me, it's kind of weird. 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: But but then I looked at the timing of the 45 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: whole thing, and that's what's curious, because when you talk 46 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: about ritual, you always have to look at the alignments 47 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: and the astrology and the timing of when people do 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: this stuff. And the video was released right in uh 49 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 3: in mid August, right at the end of the what 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: they call the lions Gate Portal, that is a portal 51 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: that peaks on August eighth, and the lions Gate Portal 52 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: is important to people that practice astrology, which astrology this 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: is actually the sort of foundation of all occult practices. 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: It goes all the way back to Babylon and the stargazers, 55 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: and they find it very important to sort of unlock 56 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: certain gates by doing things in alignment when the stars 57 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: were right, and lions Gate Portal is this window of 58 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: energy that they can use when the Sun is in 59 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: Leo and it's aligned with the Earth and the star 60 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: system of Sirius. It's like a binary star, and Sirius 61 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 3: is it's by far the most important star in the occult. 62 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: Like the Freemasons, they'll use a symbol and they call 63 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: it the Blazing Star you'll find that at all the lodges, 64 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: and it actually represents Sirious and even Alistair Crowley, the 65 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: so or the current magical source that he was utilizing 66 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: was believed to have come from Sirious, and it goes 67 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: on and on. So the Lionsgate portal is part of 68 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: this incorporation of the Star Sirius and magicians would use 69 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 3: this energy for rituals of manifestation. And you know this, 70 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: this plugs into this whole magical realm rolled by all 71 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: these gods like Hermes and Thoth, and specifically Hermes is 72 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: interesting because Hermes is the god of ritual sacrifice. So 73 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: the fact that those elements line up with this video, 74 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: that's the kind of stuff that I think, you know, 75 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: maybe maybe this was a real thing that we witnessed. 76 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: Do we know who filmed it? 77 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: And as far as I know, no. 78 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of weird where you've got someone 79 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: who supposedly is filming this and then they get spoked 80 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: and they run away and then proceed to upload it. 81 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: So like, those are the kinds of things that I think. 82 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: This is kind of sensational, This is kind of Blair 83 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: Witch project. But it's when I look at the other 84 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: aspects of the ritual that actually would have taken place 85 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 3: in the way in the time that this video was 86 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: made that I think, ah, you know what, maybe maybe 87 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: there's something to this. 88 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 2: And as you say, CERN dismissed it as an unauthorized prank, 89 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: But did they ever identify the people that were involved? 90 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: In other words, the prankster is so called, these people 91 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 2: at these hooded figures and the alleged victim. 92 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a great point. I mean, as 93 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: far as I know, they haven't. And how would they 94 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: know it's a hoax or a prank? Right unless they 95 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: they knew did it? You know CERN's got At the time, 96 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: CERN was promoting a different sort of a cult video 97 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: that we could go into if you wanted to, but 98 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: a different occult video called Symmetry that was like this 99 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 3: Luciferian tale. 100 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: So I don't know that I don't know that they 101 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: can dismissed this as easily as they have. 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned Symmetry. This was like a dance opera 103 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: from from like a year. 104 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: Earlier, right right there was there was this promotional video 105 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: where it was filmed at CERN is very professional and 106 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 3: there was this dance opera, and they called it symmetry, 107 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: which we were talking about the balancing of opposing force 108 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 3: as being a concept they use in a cult magic 109 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 3: and such, and so symmetry is very important to these 110 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: these people. 111 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: And when I watched this, you can watch the movie. 112 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: I bought it on Amazon, but you can watch the 113 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: movie and its entirety, and what you see when you 114 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: watch the entire thing is it's this Luciferian tale of 115 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 3: and this is my interpretation of manifesting the sort of 116 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: end times through opposing polarity sex magic and it there's 117 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 3: there's several acts in the movie, and what you basically 118 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: witness is concern. This guy, the scientist, is able to 119 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: manifest the Goddess into our realm, into our dimension, and 120 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: he proceeds to dance with the goddess. And this is 121 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 3: again I interpret it as the sex magic, right, and 122 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: this is basically showing us what you know, Jack Parson's 123 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 3: Babylon working again a sex magic ritual to sort of 124 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: manifest the Lucifery and Antichrist or the Moonchild. But the 125 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: characters in the play on the cern play, the guy's 126 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: name is Lucas, which is a tie in the Lucifer, 127 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: the light bearer, and he goes out to the desert, 128 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: which is where all initiation happens, because the desert is 129 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: always the realm of the surreal and it's like a 130 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: place where someone can go and sort of experience a 131 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: fundamental shift and consciousness because of the sort of surrealness 132 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: of the environment. And when he goes out in the desert, 133 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: he makes contact act with this goddess. And the goddess 134 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: is in all black, he's in all white. So there's 135 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: the opposing colors, right, the opposing polarities of black and white, 136 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: like you see on the Freemasonic Lodge floors, like the 137 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: checkered floor, and they go inside of the center of 138 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: this giant magical circle, and that's where they do their dance, 139 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: you know, quote unquote their dance. And this is where 140 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: the opposing polarities come together. And to me, I see this, 141 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: and I see the Shiva and the shocked he ritual. Right, 142 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: this is the goddess in black and lucas the Lucifer 143 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 3: and white, and they come together to become one. And 144 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: what's interesting is that if you watch the behind the scenes, 145 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: they interview this famous physicist named John Ellis and he's 146 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: wearing a shirt and the shirt has various occult symbols. 147 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: And Viking runs on it. 148 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: And one of the symbols you see is the X 149 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: and the O, which is again another symbol that shows 150 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: us this supposed polarity stuff, and it goes very deep 151 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: into occultist like Kenneth Grant, and it's about fusing the 152 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: the osiris, which is the phallus, with the void or 153 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: the womb. But Kenneth Grant also very important in terms 154 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: of CERN and the Large Hadron Collider, because Kenneth Grant 155 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: was very much about making contact and opening up portals 156 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 3: in order to make contact with this typhonyan force is 157 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: what he called it. And again it was this whole 158 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: idea of expanding one's consciousness into other realms to make 159 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: contact with non human intelligences by unlocking interdimensional gateways, which 160 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 3: is kind of what CERN is trying to do in 161 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: a way. 162 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: You mentioned Jack Parsons, and maybe we should get a 163 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: bit of a primmer on Jack Parsons and who he 164 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: was and what rituals he was trying to do. I 165 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: guess to create the apocalypse. 166 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, I mean Jack Parson's always like a 167 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 3: fascinating character. I've read a couple of books on him. 168 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: He of course was the you know, the rocket scientist, 169 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: the guy who created the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which was 170 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: the predecessor to NASA. And he was interesting because he 171 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: I well, no, obviously, but he was into the occult. 172 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: He was a member of Alistair Crowley's Magical Order of Thelema, 173 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: and he had like a mansion called the Parsonage where 174 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: they were doing again sex, magic rituals and all this 175 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: kind of magical order stuff. And his whole inspiration came 176 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: from the same place that Werner von Braun's inspiration came from. 177 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 3: These guys were reading the Pulps and these comics about 178 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: you know, putting men out in space and traveling to 179 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: the stars and all this stuff. Right, so these guys 180 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: are very much influenced by science fiction, and then they 181 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: want to make the science fiction reality. So he decided 182 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: he was gonna, you know, actually make this this rocket 183 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 3: actually work. 184 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: So he and he would do certain. 185 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 3: Prayer, certain occult prayers doing during rocket launches and including 186 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: I believe his first one when he started JPL was 187 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: done on October thirty first, which is an important date 188 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: in the occult of Sueene or Halloween, right, but specifically 189 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 3: after he was getting involved with Alistair Crowley, he did 190 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: a modified version of what Crowley called the Amalanche were working. 191 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: And this is important to sort of give it a 192 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: very brief overview. This goes all the way back to 193 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 3: John D. John D was, you know, Queen Elizabeth's astrologer, 194 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 3: and he was making contact with the angels. The angels say, hey, 195 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 3: if you want to make contact with us, we want 196 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 3: to do some rituals. Here's some language we call the 197 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: Anochian language. That's what God spoke to Adam in the 198 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: Garden of Eden. This is the same language. So you 199 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: want to make you want to talk to us, you know, 200 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 3: here's your language, and they call it the Uenokian language. 201 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 3: And Crowley would use this and create the Amalantra working 202 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: where he made contact with this wizard which channeled to 203 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: him the vision of Lamb, the first gray Alien. But anyway, 204 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: Jack Parsons in nineteen forty six, in February, he starts 205 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: a modified version of Amalantra called the Babylon Workings, and 206 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 3: the Babylon working this is this is kind of I've 207 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 3: got three different books on Jack Parsons, and there's a 208 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: couple interpretations of what was actually happening. What we do 209 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: know about it is that he was doing the first 210 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: part of the ritual was again a sex magic ritual. 211 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: Him and l Ron Hubbard around in the Mahabi. 212 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: Desert, and they were doing rituals to try to incarnate 213 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: what was Goddess babylon worship thing, and he was putting 214 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 3: energy out of the universe to bring this woman into 215 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: his life. 216 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 4: And sure enough in March which he meets Marjorie. 217 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: Cameron, and then without her knowing, he proceeds with part 218 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: two of the ritual, which is to perform actual sex 219 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: magic with Marjorie Cameron in order to pro create what 220 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: they expected to be the Moon Child, which is to 221 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 3: sort of incarnate a force that would be the sort 222 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 3: of an anti christ force, because he he was all 223 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: about trying to destroy Christianity, like that was his big 224 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: hang up. He wrote a whole book. 225 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: Called The Antichrist about this topic. 226 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: But one of the interpretations of what they were doing 227 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: was like, on one level, it was just a symbolic thing. 228 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: It was saying, hey, I'm a magician, and times they 229 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: are a change in so let's go ahead and sort 230 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 3: of put energy out there to wake up the masses, 231 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: to have them rise up against the church that is 232 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: suppressing all of their sexual energy and stuff. On another level, 233 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: that and this is what the Agape lodge that he. 234 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 4: Was running at the parsonage in the Inner Circles. 235 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: They thought he was actually trying to physically birth the 236 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: moon child, a magical offspring which was going to be 237 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: a spirit fused from the astral plane, which is kind 238 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: of weird stuff, right, But when you look at what's 239 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: happening with Ai nowadays, and you read Professor down in 240 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 3: Pasaka's books, she has a whole section where there's scientists 241 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 3: that believe that Ai could actually be disembodied spirits from 242 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: the astral realm trying to make contact with us. 243 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: Well, so this was in this was in forty seven, 244 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: right when he opened this portal, and then he's killed 245 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: in an explosion, and did he close the portal? 246 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So in forty six he completes he starts the 247 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 3: second part of the ritual with Marjorie Cameron, and and 248 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: Crowley was very upset about this whole thing, like apparently 249 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: he didn't get along with Parsons or he thought he 250 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: was kind of a buffoon on some levels. And there 251 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: was a correspondence where they found that Crowley was pretty 252 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 3: upset that Parsons wasn't successfully closing the portals on these 253 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: on these rituals. And from here a lot of people 254 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: believe that the Roswell crash in forty seven in July 255 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: was because Jack Parsons did not close these portals correctly, 256 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: as Alister Crowley was suggesting. Furthermore, like deeper into the subject, 257 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: you know, in July nineteen forty five, we had the 258 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: Trinity atomic bomb that supposedly thinned the veil itself. Then 259 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: there was a Trinity UFO crash weeks later in nineteen 260 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 3: forty five. Knowing that the veil was thin, perhaps Parsons, 261 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: who surely would have been very close to a lot 262 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: of these rocket scientists and stuff going on with the 263 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: Manhattan Project and all that, maybe he's thought that was 264 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: the perfect time to do his ritual while the veilis 265 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 3: then does that then we get Roswell. 266 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: Then in forty nine Curly dies. 267 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: But beyond that, there's a lot of stuff that that 268 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 3: Marjorie Cameron and Parsons, they would see various signs of 269 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: UFOs in the sky and so on, and Marjorie Cameron, 270 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: she didn't even know her role at the beginning. She 271 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: didn't know what her role was at all. She just 272 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: thought she was dating this guy who was a rocket scientist. 273 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 3: But there's there's a whole, there's a whole, there's this 274 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: whole concept of these two sort of creating this new 275 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: realm with their rituals. For instance, one example is that 276 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: in nineteen forty nine Jack Parsons made a prediction that 277 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: within seven years the Babylon will manifest into the world, 278 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: and seven years later, exactly in nineteen fifty six. 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