Speaker 1: Falling in love is the best feeling in the world.
Speaker 1: You see stars, you feel giddy, But sometimes that makes
Speaker 1: you do crazy things, and sometimes that means murder. Just
Speaker 1: because the story starts out with once upon a Times
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it ends happily ever after. Welcome to Crazy
Speaker 1: and Love, a production of Katie Studios and I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Today's guests are true crime producers Stephanie Ldiger and Jeff Shane.
Speaker 1: Episode thirty six, The Case of the Renovation, The Ring,
Speaker 1: and the Double Life. The house at to East Copeland
Speaker 1: Drive was almost square feet. It had a pool, a garage, apartment,
Speaker 1: a fireplace, and five bathrooms. Located just a mile from
Speaker 1: downtown Orlando, Florida, in the upscale neighborhood of Delaney Park,
Speaker 1: it was known for its great schools and expansive gardens.
Speaker 1: The property should have been any couple's dream home, but
Speaker 1: for Chanty and Dave Tronas, the Spanish style mansion became
Speaker 1: a place of secrets, lies, and unimaginable terror. Five years
Speaker 1: before the tragedy that would transpire, Shanty and Dave were
Speaker 1: mere strangers who began chatting on match dot Com. Shanty
Speaker 1: was thirty four and living in the Orlando area. Dave
Speaker 1: was ten years her senior and located up in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Despite their distance, the pair fell to connection. Shanty was
Speaker 1: a hard working, dedicated single mother who cared deeply about
Speaker 1: her eight year old son. Dave was intelligent and charming.
Speaker 1: The couple also bonded over the shared experiences of complicated divorces.
Speaker 1: Dave and Shanty fell hard for each other fast with
Speaker 1: In just months of meeting, Dave packed up and moved
Speaker 1: to Florida to be with Shaunty. One email she wrote
Speaker 1: to him sums up the early days of their relationship well, quote, Dave,
Speaker 1: I will have to say, I think this will be
Speaker 1: a delicious detour, an amazing, life changing detour. I've had
Speaker 1: a pep in my steps since we started this little
Speaker 1: email affair. In February, Shaunty and Dave got married with
Speaker 1: the stunning fifteen thousand dollar diamond ring. Here's Stephanie. So
Speaker 1: here's what we know about them when they first met.
Speaker 1: Within months of becoming a couple, Dave moved hundreds of
Speaker 1: miles to Florida. He loved the area and bought a
Speaker 1: house at two hundred and eighteen East Copeland Drive for
Speaker 1: six hundred and seven thousand, five hundred dollars with cash.
Speaker 1: According to the real estate agent who sold him the house,
Speaker 1: Dave was like a child when you bought the home.
Speaker 1: He was desperate and wanted to get the deal done.
Speaker 1: It was sort of off putting to her that he
Speaker 1: was so pushy, but also anyone who bought a home
Speaker 1: can relate to the feeling of just wanting to close
Speaker 1: that deal. But that said, paying cash for a house
Speaker 1: is pretty difficult. Jeff, what did the couple do? Shaunty
Speaker 1: and Dave were both very successful. She ran a fruitful
Speaker 1: financial software business and was able to work from home,
Speaker 1: and Dave had recently inherited between four and six million
Speaker 1: dollars from his father, so that would explain why he
Speaker 1: was able to pay cash for the house. And so
Speaker 1: I think because they were both maybe business minded, they
Speaker 1: decided to keep their finances very separate. Dave paid for
Speaker 1: the house and didn't end up putting Shaunty on the deed.
Speaker 1: And while at first this worked, it became kind of
Speaker 1: a hot button issue because Shaunty actually moved into the
Speaker 1: home and that's not all. The couple started an expansive
Speaker 1: remodel on the home, and because David paid for the
Speaker 1: home and cash, Shaunty agreed to flip the bill for
Speaker 1: the remodel under the guys that she would eventually be
Speaker 1: added to the deep Dave asked his neighbor for her
Speaker 1: advice on the remodel. Take a listen. He was asking
Speaker 1: me specifically about raising the floor in the living room
Speaker 1: to match the kitchen. And I thought, that's a major,
Speaker 1: major problem because the doors back there you'd have to
Speaker 1: bring you'd have to replace all those doors, You'd have
Speaker 1: to bring those all up to the right height. And
Speaker 1: I thought, why would you do that? I mean, I
Speaker 1: could understand. I told him, I said, if you want
Speaker 1: your kitchen bigger, bring the kitchen floor out further and
Speaker 1: make the breakfast area smaller. But to raise the whole
Speaker 1: floor up, to me seemed a little ludicrous. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just seemed crazy. Did it seem as you're looking
Speaker 1: around the house and he's explaining what they want to do,
Speaker 1: that it was going to be expensive. Oh, I mean
Speaker 1: I could tell it was going to be expensive. I
Speaker 1: mean there was no that was not And at that point, um,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where they were already was like a
Speaker 1: two dollar renovation minimum. When you hear that, it just
Speaker 1: seems like Dave didn't care about the cost. He was
Speaker 1: on a roll. If the neighbor, who didn't really know
Speaker 1: the specifics of the job could tell it would be
Speaker 1: that expensive, it must have been pretty bad. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine Shanty, a hard working single mom, would have loved
Speaker 1: that not only was her home such a mess, but
Speaker 1: that she was also paying for all of it at
Speaker 1: the same time. It would ultimately turn into a life
Speaker 1: altering redot. Shanty and Dave had big plans for the house.
Speaker 1: They wanted to open up the main living space and
Speaker 1: redo every bathroom and bedroom. The house was torn down
Speaker 1: to the studs and the budget ballooned. Like many homeowners
Speaker 1: who attempt a renovation, Shanty and Dave found themselves in
Speaker 1: over their heads. Here's Jeff, So, like we said, since
Speaker 1: Day paid for the house, Shanty fronted the costs for
Speaker 1: the HNO, but that again became a problem when the
Speaker 1: costs for the remodel reached two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And remember, Shanty wasn't even on the d to the house,
Speaker 1: so while she was investing all this money into the home,
Speaker 1: it wasn't even hers. So the deed to a house
Speaker 1: staff correct me if I'm wrong, is really just states
Speaker 1: who the owner of the home is. So if something
Speaker 1: were to happen to Dave, let's say, Shaunty, would have
Speaker 1: no steak in the property because she's not on the deed.
Speaker 1: Or moreover, I believe that if Dave decided overnight that
Speaker 1: he wanted to sell the property, he wouldn't need her
Speaker 1: permission to do so. And suddenly she's put two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars into a home that she could
Speaker 1: frankly be asked to leave or not benefit from the
Speaker 1: sale of the house. Right So she's investing to make
Speaker 1: this property worth much more than it already is and
Speaker 1: not going to see any of the returns. A neighbor
Speaker 1: spoke about the dynamics of the relationship. What was your
Speaker 1: observations with Dave and jacks Um, Dave was always very
Speaker 1: nice to Jackson. He treated like his own son. He
Speaker 1: seemed very concerned with his well being. UM like, I
Speaker 1: know that he They didn't like Jackson's teacher this year.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was so much Shaunty, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but Day would always say you don't like Mrs.
Speaker 1: It's not the right fit for Jackson. I think Mrs
Speaker 1: was more free form. He needs structure, you know. And
Speaker 1: and for Dave to be that concerned about Jackson, I
Speaker 1: thought was unusual, you know, because it's not your child,
Speaker 1: but he talked to him as if it was his
Speaker 1: own child. We were also never able to figure out
Speaker 1: what Dave did. By all counts, he was unemployed and
Speaker 1: seemingly living off of the big inheritance he said his
Speaker 1: dad left for him. It's interesting, though, that the impression
Speaker 1: the couple was giving was that Shanty was the sole
Speaker 1: provider and supporting Dave. I suppose I could see how
Speaker 1: it would seem that way, since Shanty worked all day
Speaker 1: and Dave just sort of hung around. After three years
Speaker 1: of construction and many contractors later, the house on East
Speaker 1: Copeland Drive was no closer to being completed. It had
Speaker 1: become so unlivable that Shaunty and Dave began sleeping in
Speaker 1: the garage apartment. According to their last contractor, the rehynot
Speaker 1: was causing a strain on the couple and things were tense.
Speaker 1: Shanty was displeased with the time and money being spent,
Speaker 1: and the fact that her husband would not change the deed.
Speaker 1: But on Aeen at three fifteen PM, all of that
Speaker 1: would seem irrelevant. Nine one one operators in Delaney Park
Speaker 1: received this call. Hello, tried to do can you get
Speaker 1: her out of the shower? Okay? Is she laying from
Speaker 1: on the back? Okay? And you don't know what happened
Speaker 1: here or when anything happened? Okay. Through guttural sobs, Dave
Speaker 1: told paramedics he had found his wife unresponsive in the bathtub.
Speaker 1: When the police arrived, Shaunty was dead. Dave told the
Speaker 1: detectives that he had been out for a walk with
Speaker 1: the dogs and when he came home, he found Shaunty
Speaker 1: in the tub. Oddly, police noticed there were no signs
Speaker 1: of a struggle or fourth entry. While five thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in cash and Shaunty's beautiful fifteen thousand dollar engagement ring,
Speaker 1: we're missing. Many other valuables such as computers, watches, and
Speaker 1: phones were not taken. With very little to go on,
Speaker 1: police turned to Dave for answers. Davis brought in for
Speaker 1: questioning and it began what would turn into a marathon
Speaker 1: fourteen hour interrogation. Very quickly, he refused a lawyer, so
Speaker 1: the cops were free to ask him anything and everything
Speaker 1: they wanted and asked him. They did listen to Dave
Speaker 1: describe what he found when he discovered Shaunty in the bathtub.
Speaker 1: She's submerged partially, but she's also partially not submerged and
Speaker 1: kind of sticking up a little. And it's just extremely
Speaker 1: it's awful and it doesn't look natural. Obviously she or
Speaker 1: something happened. They try to pick her up, she's she's
Speaker 1: it's hard to pick her up. She's met stick a
Speaker 1: sack of potatoes. It's easy. It just to me sounds
Speaker 1: so methodical and cold. I mean, at one point he
Speaker 1: describes her as a sack of potatoes. To me, that
Speaker 1: seems like a very odd way to describe your now
Speaker 1: deceased wife when you find her in the tub. That's
Speaker 1: not the only thing that was odd. The cops also
Speaker 1: found it strange that, despite telling them he found her
Speaker 1: in the bathtub and immediately calling them on one, the
Speaker 1: bathroom was completely dry when they arrived, and Shanty was
Speaker 1: only damp, not wet, So then that just didn't that up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a big piece to this case. There was
Speaker 1: also some blood found on the bed frame. Dave theorized
Speaker 1: that it could have been from Shaunty's menstrual cycle, so
Speaker 1: the question would have been who would possibly want to
Speaker 1: hurt the compassionate and successful mother. The detectives just decided
Speaker 1: to ask Dave outright, have a listen, any problems? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: anyone that want to do her home? At the talent
Speaker 1: of the interrogation, the cops tried to coax a confession
Speaker 1: out of Dave, but he continued to deny murdering his wife.
Speaker 1: You either man a mistake, you're cool boy kill which
Speaker 1: may We also know that Shaunty had a two hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollar life insurance policy and that Dave
Speaker 1: was the beneficiary, But the missing ring in the cash
Speaker 1: was always sort of odd and didn't completely add up. Meaning,
Speaker 1: if day I've wanted to hurt Shaunty, why would he
Speaker 1: take that? There really would be no reason other than
Speaker 1: if he was looking to stage it or make the
Speaker 1: scene look as though it was a robbery. Right, But
Speaker 1: if he was really trying to make it look like
Speaker 1: a robber, you think he would have taken the cell
Speaker 1: phones or the computers, or the watches or the earrings.
Speaker 1: But it seems very pointed to me that just this
Speaker 1: large amount of cash and the ring were taken. I
Speaker 1: mean to me. You know, we talk a lot about
Speaker 1: whether you should lawyer her up or not law your up,
Speaker 1: and it seems like whether or not you did something
Speaker 1: or you didn't do something, having a lawyer is always
Speaker 1: a smart move, especially when you know the cops are
Speaker 1: looking at you for talking to you for fourteen hours.
Speaker 1: You're bound to say something that will frame you in
Speaker 1: a bad light or give something up that you don't
Speaker 1: want to give up. I mean, obviously the cops thought
Speaker 1: he was the lead suspect at this time that they're
Speaker 1: talking to be fourteen hours. They had nothing else to
Speaker 1: go off of at this point, and he refused a
Speaker 1: lawyer because in some cases that does look bad if
Speaker 1: you're suddenly feeling as though you need counsel to discuss
Speaker 1: a scene that you just walked into. I can see
Speaker 1: both sides of that, right, I mean, for fourteen hours.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't crack after fourteen hours, perhaps he really
Speaker 1: doesn't have anything to hide. And of course he wants
Speaker 1: to find the murderer, so theoretically he's going to say
Speaker 1: everything and anything he knows so that the police could
Speaker 1: get off of him as a main suspect and onto
Speaker 1: finding the person who is still at large with Dave A. Freeman.
Speaker 1: The police looked at other suspects. First was Shanty's ex husband.
Speaker 1: They had a bitter divorce and shared custody of their son.
Speaker 1: Could he have killed her to get control of their child?
Speaker 1: Police also honed in on a local homeless man who
Speaker 1: was known to hang around to Leaney Park. Do you
Speaker 1: recognize her? No? Right? Have you ever seen her before? No? No? Okay?
Speaker 1: You ever spoken to her or nothing? No? Okay? Do
Speaker 1: you recognize this fan? No? I don't. All right, I'm
Speaker 1: showing him a picture of David Michael Old Churnis and
Speaker 1: have you ever had a conversation with him? For any reason?
Speaker 1: I'm out here to something in the morning is because
Speaker 1: I needed to ask you whether or not, um you
Speaker 1: had been in her home or seen her or harmed
Speaker 1: her in any way. Have you ever been in her home?
Speaker 1: Have you ever harmed her in any way? Okay? Did
Speaker 1: you kill her? No? No? Would you have any reason
Speaker 1: to the police were very thorough with their investigation. We
Speaker 1: know they looked at Shanty's acts husband and a local
Speaker 1: homeless man, but they were ultimately able to clear them
Speaker 1: both because they had airtight allillies. So naturally, the investigators
Speaker 1: look back at Dave and kind of what he has
Speaker 1: going on in his life, and when they started going
Speaker 1: through his credit card statements, they found one thing that
Speaker 1: struck them as strange. On his statement, he had a
Speaker 1: recurring thirty five dollar payment to a place called the
Speaker 1: Club or Lando. And it turns out the Club Orlando
Speaker 1: is a men's gym, but is known to host some
Speaker 1: more toward activities than average twenty four hour fitness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a very confusing topic because, on the one hand,
Speaker 1: we know that Dave is married, so why would he
Speaker 1: be paying for a membership at a men's hook up Jim.
Speaker 1: That said, it's also quite possible he was just going
Speaker 1: to the gym to work out that also happened to
Speaker 1: be a hook up Jim, he didn't necessarily have to
Speaker 1: partake in that. Yeah, it's interesting because you can look
Speaker 1: at these two things as separate issues or potentially related.
Speaker 1: On the one hand, he might not have been doing anything,
Speaker 1: that's one possibility, or he might have been actually going
Speaker 1: and hooking up with guys, and that might not have
Speaker 1: to do with the murder of his wife. But it
Speaker 1: does tell us that maybe he's being deceitful to either
Speaker 1: the police because he didn't tell him upfront that he
Speaker 1: is cheating on his wife, or he's being deceitful to
Speaker 1: Shanti because he's lying to her about what he's doing
Speaker 1: outside of their marriage. In any case, it is circumstantial evidence,
Speaker 1: but it does point to maybe his character and calls
Speaker 1: into question what he's saying. Is that because he's clearly
Speaker 1: not being truthful, that's exactly right. It does paint a
Speaker 1: picture of him that's simply not favorable. We're going to
Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be back in just a moment.
Speaker 1: So much of these cases are not necessarily about physical evidence,
Speaker 1: but what the police perceive as your character and the
Speaker 1: type of person that you are. And whether he's lying
Speaker 1: to the police or he's lying to his wife, it
Speaker 1: certainly doesn't make him look like a good person, right,
Speaker 1: And to that end, the two don't necessarily go hand
Speaker 1: in hand. Just because he's maybe stepping out and either
Speaker 1: exercising at the gym or exercising at the gym and
Speaker 1: stepping out on his marriage. Again, that doesn't make him
Speaker 1: a murderer or a murderer of Shaunty specifically, as police
Speaker 1: looked at all the pieces to a puzzle, everything led
Speaker 1: back to Dave. One he had motive. Financially he stood
Speaker 1: to gain with Shaunty dead personally, she might have been
Speaker 1: enraged over his extramarital activities. Two he had opportunity. Dave
Speaker 1: was admittedly the last person to see her alive. This
Speaker 1: was enough to make an arrest, and on August, four
Speaker 1: months after Shanty's death, Dave was officially charged with her murder.
Speaker 1: Dave had been staying at his mother's house, and when
Speaker 1: the police searched his things, they found the supposedly missing
Speaker 1: ring in a suitcase. To them, it was the nail
Speaker 1: in Dave's coffin. Finding the ring was a very big
Speaker 1: deal and a break in the case, and as the
Speaker 1: prosecution built their case, detectives got a tip that would
Speaker 1: send them right back to where it all began. A
Speaker 1: former friend of Dave's in Minnesota said that Dave had
Speaker 1: been poisoning his ex wife, a woman named Carol. In Minnesota,
Speaker 1: detectives learned that Carol had in fact suffered from a
Speaker 1: series of health issues. She always spoke about chronic pain
Speaker 1: and gut issues, and she also acknowledged to police that
Speaker 1: Dave cooked most of her meals. Listen to this, who
Speaker 1: cooked in the home? We both did? He primarily cooked
Speaker 1: in the home um in the early days. I I
Speaker 1: don't remember. I think he might have done a lot
Speaker 1: of the cooking. He's a better cook than I. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the chef thinks, so that makes sense that he
Speaker 1: was inspiring chef after that three m He did a
Speaker 1: lot of the cooking early on. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we did a lot of it, but I mean he
Speaker 1: I honestly don't remember the meals. Okay, such an odd description. Now,
Speaker 1: listen to the cops when they asked Carol directly if
Speaker 1: Dave was poisoning her, would there have been any reason
Speaker 1: to believe that you could have been given something poisoned,
Speaker 1: given certain supplements, things along those lines that could have
Speaker 1: caused any of the medical issues. But how does this
Speaker 1: all play into Shaunty's story. Eight weeks before her dath,
Speaker 1: Shahnty had an emergency appenducting me. As it turns out,
Speaker 1: appendicitis and poisoning have very similar symptoms, So the theory
Speaker 1: was that potentially Dave had been poisoning his ex wife
Speaker 1: Carol and his current wife Shaunty. He even admitted in
Speaker 1: his interrogation that Shaunty had digestion problems. She hasn't found
Speaker 1: since the appendant me that she can eat regularly and
Speaker 1: feel good. While it seemed very possible that Dave had
Speaker 1: a pattern of poisoning the women he supposedly loved, detectives
Speaker 1: just could never really prove it. Shaunty's autopsy was very clear.
Speaker 1: It said that she died of strangulation and blunt force trauma.
Speaker 1: And while this whole theory about the poison was creeping
Speaker 1: and very weird, it essentially took a backseat. While in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: detectives also made another discovery about Dave's deceptions. So we
Speaker 1: know that Dave had told Shaunty he inherited four to
Speaker 1: six million dollars from his dad. It was how he
Speaker 1: paid cash for the house, But it turned out that
Speaker 1: was a lot. He never inherited any money, and he
Speaker 1: most likely used all his savings to pay for the
Speaker 1: house in cash. Why would he lie about that, Deshaunty?
Speaker 1: I wonder if it was because Shanty was successful and
Speaker 1: had her own money and Dave wanted to seem like
Speaker 1: he did too, and he didn't need her for her money.
Speaker 1: He wanted to appear independently wealthy. Eleven months after the murder,
Speaker 1: another twist would shock investigators. Dave's former defense attorney, who
Speaker 1: made since replaced, turned in a set of bloody sheets
Speaker 1: and a green cord to the police. According to the lawyer,
Speaker 1: he had acquired the items from the garage apartment after
Speaker 1: the murder. However, he never turned them into police or
Speaker 1: the prosecution. Could the sheets prove Dave killed Shaunty in
Speaker 1: their bedroom, was the green cord the murder weapon? As
Speaker 1: the lawyer was investigated for withholding key evidence. Please got
Speaker 1: another shocking phone call. Dave's cellmate came forward with quite
Speaker 1: a story. The cellmate told officials that they bonded over
Speaker 1: their love of obscure hallucinogens, including one that came from
Speaker 1: a frog. According to the cell mate, Dave said he
Speaker 1: could use frog poison to kill someone. He also said
Speaker 1: that Dave confessed to murder. The cellmates said that Dave
Speaker 1: told him Shanty found a gay hook up app on
Speaker 1: his phone and completely freaked out. They had a big fight,
Speaker 1: he blacked out and then he killed her and While
Speaker 1: all of this sound plausible, including the whole frog thing,
Speaker 1: it couldn't be corroborated and there were no records of
Speaker 1: Dave having any app like that on his phone. So ultimately,
Speaker 1: while intr staying, the cellmate story was dismissed, let's stop
Speaker 1: here for another break. So will cops couldn't do anything
Speaker 1: with the cellmate story. They still had these bloody sheets
Speaker 1: and the green cord to look out, So let's just
Speaker 1: talk this through. According to the police, what happened that night.
Speaker 1: Police think that Shanty is sitting there getting ready for bed,
Speaker 1: taking her earrings out as you would, and she had
Speaker 1: one earring out, one on the nightstand, and that's when
Speaker 1: Dave came up behind her and attacked her. The attack
Speaker 1: would explain the blood that was found not only on
Speaker 1: the sheets, but also the bed frame. You know, the
Speaker 1: same bed frame that Dave thought was just her period
Speaker 1: blood on it. The sheets had way more blood which
Speaker 1: would not possibly be from a woman's menstrual cycle. So
Speaker 1: the cops think that he attacks are there's blood, and
Speaker 1: then at some point he starts to strangle over the
Speaker 1: green cord. Now the green cord had no DNA evidence
Speaker 1: on it, but police didn't find it for months, so
Speaker 1: Dave could have easily cleaned it up after the murder.
Speaker 1: And if that theory is true, that meant Dave sat
Speaker 1: with Shaunty's body for hours before calling. Think about that.
Speaker 1: The cops believed that Dave passed the time doing very
Speaker 1: mundane chores like cleaning the house and literally walking the dogs,
Speaker 1: all while his wife was dead upstairs. We pulled some
Speaker 1: audio from a phone called Dave had with his mom
Speaker 1: while in jail to give you some insight into his
Speaker 1: frame of mind. Take a listen. You should be taking
Speaker 1: care of your own stuff. I can't shouldn't be in jail,
Speaker 1: but you shouldn't be in jail. But we can't change
Speaker 1: that if that's not my fault. It's not your fault
Speaker 1: that you're in jail. No, I didn't do anything. It's
Speaker 1: not my fault. So why did they put you in jail? Then? Who?
Speaker 1: You understand? Because there's something we have to go through
Speaker 1: until we can done with it. We already talked about this, right,
Speaker 1: I don't remember anymore. I didn't think that I would
Speaker 1: ever have to be that you would be in jail
Speaker 1: and I would have to be doing your Why didn't
Speaker 1: think I would either, So comm you should then that
Speaker 1: you're not doing you're really not doing. You shouldn't be there.
Speaker 1: I didn't do anyva. It's not my fault. Okay, then
Speaker 1: why are you there? Because sometimes you have to defend yourself.
Speaker 1: You can really hear the frustration and contempt in his
Speaker 1: mom's voice, and to me, it sounds like Dave's just
Speaker 1: going through the motions when he denies any wrongdoing. As
Speaker 1: of late, the trial in which Dave pled not guilty,
Speaker 1: has been delayed several times due to COVID and other factors. However,
Speaker 1: in January, Dave was found incompetent to stand trial. A
Speaker 1: judge ruled that he was unfit to proceed after two
Speaker 1: medical experts conducted psychological all evaluations on him and determined
Speaker 1: he was schizophrenic. Instead of facing trial for the savage
Speaker 1: murder of Shanty, Dave will be sent to a state
Speaker 1: hospital where he will receive treatment for his mental health.
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