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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 2: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: Mike Gravel.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight.

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Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 3: coy Or.

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Speaker 4: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number

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Speaker 4: one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 5: Good to be home. Good to see you guys.

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Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yep, thanks Todace, you know, first and foremost, this is

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Speaker 3: definitely a huge day, obviously in our nation and personally

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Speaker 3: in our household. And I just want to personally thank

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Speaker 3: all the veterans for their service, for their sacrifice. Coming

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Speaker 3: from a military background, my grandfather was a chief massive

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Speaker 5: Something moving on to the game.

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Speaker 3: Kind of hit on it last night, I thought, overall,

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Speaker 3: you know, just the message of physicality and just moving guys.

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Speaker 3: I thought, you know, when I watched the film, you

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Speaker 5: And that's the way we have to win this game

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Speaker 5: as a whole. To me, reminded me of the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: As really controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides

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Speaker 3: They did a good job doing that and then also

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Speaker 5: A step back, but I fully anticipated us getting back

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Speaker 3: We'll definitely make that a point of emphasis this week

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Speaker 5: Defensively, I thought the front did a good job.

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Speaker 3: But all those guys, especially the interior guys, for the

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Speaker 5: As a guy that can flip the field for us.

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Speaker 5: And this is we keep I say it every single week.

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Speaker 3: We have to continue to improve, and we have to

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Speaker 5: And this is the formula. And as I always say,

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Speaker 5: So players, this is how we need to play going forward.

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Speaker 6: That would open up for questions. We'll start with Mike

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Speaker 5: Giroud. My question is on a new player j And

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Speaker 3: You know, I've watched him on tape for a very

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Speaker 5: Look, he's not just a passer.

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Speaker 5: And we see this as a way of improving us

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Speaker 7: And just a quick follow up, have you had a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had a chance to connect with them, and

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Speaker 3: I would say multiple coaches have also defensive coaches.

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Speaker 6: And Chris, Ryan White and Steel.

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Speaker 7: If you're on hoball as well with you you mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 7: you know, This was probably the best all round game

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Speaker 3: Chris, I'm not sure. You know, you always it's the

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Speaker 3: and we have to learn how to string wins together.

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Speaker 3: And that's going to be my message today and going forward.

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Speaker 7: Part of the formula obviously was having your younger players

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Speaker 7: And could that also be in other position groups where

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my goal, you know as.

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Speaker 3: The head coach is to put the players out there

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Speaker 3: trying to get the roster as well as we can

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Speaker 5: Ultimately is my decision, and my decision.

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Speaker 3: From on a week after week basis to you know,

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Speaker 6: Thank you. Thanks in Steelfulwich to Code Randam.

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Speaker 2: Morning Girod checking in, Thanks and thanks for the Veterans

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Speaker 2: Day comments earlier as well. On Drake May, what did

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Speaker 3: And he's done an excellent job there and I look

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Speaker 2: Rodata seeing Michael Hasty outstap Antonio Gibson the last couple

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Speaker 3: I'll just said, all three of uh, you know, all

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Speaker 3: it was more of a Hasty game than a Gibbie game.

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Speaker 3: And that that is a week after week discussion, not

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Speaker 5: Multiple positions on this team. Thank you, Thanks.

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Speaker 6: Sophie Roller, followed by Mike Cheery.

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Speaker 8: I was just curious throughout the beginning of the week.

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Speaker 8: Last week we saw Michael Wenno taking snaps at left guard,

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Speaker 8: Just kind of what went into that decision. Uh, to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just goes back to what's the best lineup

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Speaker 5: And Uh, that's what that's what we thought we were doing.

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Speaker 5: That was the idea behind it.

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Speaker 8: And then just one more I was curious about Kendrick Bourne.

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Speaker 8: I asked you a similar question last week, but it

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Speaker 8: What is it like to have a player like that

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Speaker 5: It's great.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's the selfless attitude that we always talk

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Speaker 3: about and there's no secret, you know, KB he brings

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Speaker 5: Here in England.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much so, Mike. She already followed by

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Speaker 6: Tator Kyles Morning GIROD.

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Speaker 4: Mike, you mentioned, uh, the the first game of the

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Speaker 4: few games you're like, that's an unsustainable way to win.

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Speaker 4: You sort of compare this game to that game and said,

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Speaker 4: this is how we have to win going forward. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a it's a totally different part of

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I said that, you know, weeks ago at the start

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Speaker 3: the right to change my mind. We can do it,

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Speaker 3: we can't do it, And that's what we did last night,

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Speaker 3: and hopefully that's what we do going forward.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I would say, just overall, just the physicality of that

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Speaker 3: it's really the physicality part of it that we need

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Speaker 5: Thank you, which I would say is sustainable.

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Speaker 6: The last question to the Kyles, which thank you so

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Speaker 6: much for your time.

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Speaker 7: It looked like yesterday you had Del Pettison Curtis Jacobs

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Speaker 2: I know Curtis didn't played quite as much down the stretch,

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Speaker 2: but I was wondering what went into that.

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Speaker 5: Decision and also what you saw from each of those

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Speaker 3: Look, everyone on the team has to add that next

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Speaker 3: man up mentality, and that's what it came down to,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know, it's first of all

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Speaker 5: So look forward to those guys continuing to develop. Appreciate

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Speaker 7: But where the Patriots are concerned, let's just get one

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