Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Right with Nick Great episode three oh one,
Speaker 1: and this will be a different type episode. This podcast
Speaker 1: really hasn't existed since I've had to do a show
Speaker 1: like this. I don't think I've done a well. Damn,
Speaker 1: that just happened after a big Chiefs game since the
Speaker 1: pods existed, maybe in its early early infancy, but that
Speaker 1: just happened. Chiefs get absolutely rocked in the game to
Speaker 1: become the greatest team ever. So we will get into
Speaker 1: all of that. Also, at the end of today's episode,
Speaker 1: we will get a reaction to Luka do Ancich's debut
Speaker 1: with the Lakers. Those really should be their own separate
Speaker 1: podcasts or events. However, we're gonna do it all today.
Speaker 1: Want happen over the weekend, wanna happened last night? And
Speaker 1: here is I thought the right thing to do, we've
Speaker 1: been building up to it all year, was to have
Speaker 1: my first reaction to the Chiefs loss be on first
Speaker 1: things first. When I made that choice, I didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: know Demanse. Demanse's here, by the way, if you're new
Speaker 1: to the pod, Demanse's my son. He lives in LA's
Speaker 1: my coast. I didn't necessarily know when I made that
Speaker 1: decision that my first reaction to the game would be
Speaker 1: given covered in confetti while a marching band circled me
Speaker 1: and played around me. But I've had time to process,
Speaker 1: to think, to figure out what didn't didn't happen in
Speaker 1: that football game, And maybe the most interesting parts of
Speaker 1: that are what it means for Patrick mahomes pursuit of
Speaker 1: being the greatest football player of all time. How big
Speaker 1: of a stumble this was. Whether, as some have said,
Speaker 1: that makes this that conversation moot it ends it. I
Speaker 1: don't think that is the case, but I will say
Speaker 1: what didn't didn't happen. Also, one other quick note before
Speaker 1: we get to it, announce over the weekend. You know
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Speaker 1: also gonna try to get to chat questions. Uh, Bamani saying,
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Speaker 1: get to the game.
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, Pops, that was that was really, really,
Speaker 2: really bad. I felt super bad for you the entire time.
Speaker 2: I I had fried chicken wings Yester Sunday during the
Speaker 2: game for the first time since college, and I feel
Speaker 2: like I did it very well. Sat down to eat
Speaker 2: have halftime, you know, thought it was gonna get better,
Speaker 2: and I just couldn't eat bad for you, And I
Speaker 2: went to go check.
Speaker 3: Your tweets and I was like, you know, he never
Speaker 3: really tweets during these situations.
Speaker 2: And what really, I think what really made it worse
Speaker 2: was that I went to go see your tweets and
Speaker 2: you had been feeling good. You're like, they're down ten.
Speaker 2: This is the part of the dynasty. They can finally
Speaker 2: start playing football, and it just kept getting worse.
Speaker 1: So that's a great place to start. So being down
Speaker 1: ten in the Super Bowl for everyone else in league
Speaker 1: history except for two guys, is a death sentence. There
Speaker 1: have been six double digit comebacks in Super Bowl history,
Speaker 1: and three have been by Patrick, two have been by
Speaker 1: Tom and one other guy. So Tom obviously had the
Speaker 1: twenty five point comeback and a ten point comeback against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Patrick was down exactly ten points in both
Speaker 1: Super Bowls against the Niners and the previous Super Bowl
Speaker 1: against Philly, and maybe one of the producers can pull up.
Speaker 1: I forget who the other ten point comeback was. I
Speaker 1: think it was in the eighties doesn't really matter, that's it.
Speaker 1: So prior to Tom Brady there had been one double
Speaker 1: digit comeback in NFL history. After in Super Bowl history,
Speaker 1: after Tom, there had only been three. There have now
Speaker 1: been six, and so being down ten, I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you can deal with that. Then the pick six happens.
Speaker 1: And it's not just that the pick six happens and
Speaker 1: you're all of a sudden down seventeen. Oh my mistake.
Speaker 1: By the way, here it is the other double digit comebacks.
Speaker 1: New Orleans over Indy was a double digit comeback, and
Speaker 1: the one I couldn't remember. Washington fell down ten nothing
Speaker 1: to Denver in eighty seven and then scored forty two
Speaker 1: consecutive points. So I guess there have been seven, not six.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys. The the reason the pick six
Speaker 1: was so concerning was it was an unforced error, and
Speaker 1: it was when Patrick knew, all right, not a big
Speaker 1: margin for error anymore. And then after that, when there
Speaker 1: was zero margin for error, the Chiefs went three and out,
Speaker 1: and in that moment, if I'm being totally honest, I said, oh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose. It's like they're just they they have
Speaker 1: not they have done one thing, and they continued to
Speaker 1: do it all game really well, which is bottle up Saquon.
Speaker 1: But the offense cannot figure out how to lock these guys.
Speaker 1: And this is an cliche, old obvious point about beating
Speaker 1: a great quarterback, but it's been true forever. The single
Speaker 1: best way to beat a great quarterback is if you
Speaker 1: can get home with four, if you can get pressure
Speaker 1: without sending pressure, without sending a blitz. That's how the
Speaker 1: Giants beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl. That's
Speaker 1: how you neutralize Peyton. And that's twice. Now how Maholmes
Speaker 1: has gotten undone in a Super Bowl. But unlike the
Speaker 1: Tampa Super Bowl were despite the constant pressure, Patrick was
Speaker 1: actually pretty magical. The stats don't back it up, but
Speaker 1: it the eye test does. This game was the opposite.
Speaker 1: The stats look better than the actual game did. Team
Speaker 1: had twenty three yards in the first half and the
Speaker 1: opening drive of the game third down, easy pass to
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey, a little behind it, and Travis didn't catch it.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been. It was catchable, but not a
Speaker 1: great pass. It was a drop but not a horrible one.
Speaker 1: But it's like that was a oh and that was
Speaker 1: without pressure. There was you know, his game is zero
Speaker 1: zero and no no literal you know, pressure from the
Speaker 1: defensive line. And then on the very next drive, after
Speaker 1: the Chiefs got another stop, Mahomes got his left tackle
Speaker 1: Joe Tooney, pushed into him right as he's releasing the ball,
Speaker 1: throws it short at the pick, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden's twenty four to nothing and the game's over now.
Speaker 1: I did convince myself at halftime the game. I felt
Speaker 1: it was over at seventeen nothing, and then at the
Speaker 1: long halftime I convinced myself in fact was not over
Speaker 1: because and this was the you know, the cruelest thirty
Speaker 1: minutes of the game. And I mentioned this on TV,
Speaker 1: and it seems like some people had forgotten it that
Speaker 1: this dynastic run started in a game that Speaking of Bamani,
Speaker 1: I think he was with me for the divisional round
Speaker 1: against the Houston Texans where they were down twenty four
Speaker 1: to nothing and then went on a fifty one to
Speaker 1: seven run. And so a halftime, I'm like, what wouldn't
Speaker 1: that be something if the Bookends are being down twenty
Speaker 1: four to nothing, if with Brady mister down twenty eight
Speaker 1: to three, in the booth. Patrick orchestrates a twenty four
Speaker 1: point comeback in the second half of the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: but instead they instantly went three and out again. And
Speaker 1: it was just that. And so I will talk big
Speaker 1: picture chief stuff at length. Shortly, the game analysis for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs is very simple. They couldn't block them and
Speaker 1: Patrick was skittish. And so I this is how do.
Speaker 3: You think he played? Bat Are you saying that he
Speaker 3: played badly?
Speaker 1: Yes, I do think he played poorly. I I So
Speaker 1: I think demand's that given how the line played, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were going to lose. Given how Patrick played, they
Speaker 1: were going to get blown out like that. It And
Speaker 1: so if Patrick had on the times he did have time,
Speaker 1: or he escaped the price sure thrown on target, on time,
Speaker 1: accurate passes, they would have been able to stay within
Speaker 1: reach at least. But Philly, you know, and will get
Speaker 1: to jail In shortly. They dared jail In to pass
Speaker 1: and Jalen was more than up for the challenge. They
Speaker 1: stopped Saquon, it didn't matter. Philly's defense was flying around.
Speaker 1: And so I thought this was one of the poorest
Speaker 1: games of Patrick's career. There is no way around it.
Speaker 1: And so he said it, and because he's such a
Speaker 1: great leader, he took probably more of the blame than
Speaker 1: he had to. But when you are the best player
Speaker 1: in the sport, when you are going for history, and
Speaker 1: when you, in my opinion, play of your twenty one
Speaker 1: career playoff games the worst. I think this was worse
Speaker 1: than the Tampa game by a wide margin, the worst
Speaker 1: game of your career. You gotta wear it like that
Speaker 1: just is what it is. You just have to wear it.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Demantsey on the sideline, we were comparing under
Speaker 2: Brady all the time.
Speaker 3: When when he got down like.
Speaker 2: That, it kind of seemed like he sat in his
Speaker 2: own head instead of like motivating his team around him.
Speaker 1: So that bart I don't I don't agree with that,
Speaker 1: because in the first half he seemed on the sideline
Speaker 1: motivational and trying, you know that, trying to get guys
Speaker 1: going right. The shots of him sitting and Kelsey sitting
Speaker 1: with like a blank look on his face and Chris
Speaker 1: Jones falling to the ground, that was all when it
Speaker 1: was over. Like, yeah, I know the game wasn't over,
Speaker 1: but they were down thirty points. In the second half
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl, they hadn't crossed midfield. So I
Speaker 1: don't think and I want to say one other thing
Speaker 1: about Patrick's game. I do not consider what he did
Speaker 1: at the end stat padding in the traditional sense. Stat
Speaker 1: padding in the traditional senses. I know we've lost, I
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm gonna make my numbers look better. I
Speaker 1: consider what Patrick did at the end of that game.
Speaker 1: I'm listen, man, I'm fighting to the very end. And
Speaker 1: you know in doing that, he got blasted in the
Speaker 1: face and a strip sack.
Speaker 2: I think the guy is just not gonna do anything
Speaker 2: for the rest of the game just because they're down,
Speaker 2: not gonna.
Speaker 1: Well no, I mean something. You get those allegations when
Speaker 1: the other team has their backups in. Yeah, you're not
Speaker 1: just running the ball to end the game. But there
Speaker 1: it's the super Bowl. If or a regular season game
Speaker 1: and they were down like that, they would have just
Speaker 1: gotten out of there. It's the super Bowl. You got
Speaker 1: to play it to the end, and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and do the onside kicks and go for
Speaker 1: the deep shots and do what's.
Speaker 3: The game in the future, it will make it look
Speaker 3: a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what's right. So that's the that's the reason
Speaker 1: for stat padding is so in five ten years you
Speaker 1: look back on it, you're like, oh, listen, Like, if
Speaker 1: someone didn't watch this game a decade from now and
Speaker 1: they just look at it, they would probably think, oh,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense just got annihilated. Offense, did you know?
Speaker 1: The turnovers are bad? But scored twenty points? And that's
Speaker 1: not what it was. They were down thirty four to nothing.
Speaker 1: They were down thirty four to nothing, and the defense,
Speaker 1: in my opinion at that moment, had really only allowed
Speaker 1: seventeen points because seven was on a pick six, seven
Speaker 1: was right after a super short field interception, and three
Speaker 1: was on a super short field after the fumble, and
Speaker 1: so like that's the that was the problem, right, No,
Speaker 1: the deep listen, they shut down Saquon. They did what
Speaker 1: people thought they couldn't do, and they got their ass kicked.
Speaker 1: And so this is where I will I will go
Speaker 1: precedent for this, and I you know, I have aid
Speaker 1: for a while that Mahomes is trying to speed run
Speaker 1: Brady's career. I didn't account for the seven Super Bowl
Speaker 1: to be a part of that. So in our lifetimes, Demons,
Speaker 1: there have been two games total, two games that were
Speaker 1: played where if a team won that game, they would
Speaker 1: have the universal claim of greatest team of all time.
Speaker 1: One game was the undefeated seven Patriots up against the
Speaker 1: New York Giants, and the other game was this Sunday,
Speaker 1: and in both games, a team with a seemingly invincible
Speaker 1: quarterback who had been the best team in the sport
Speaker 1: all year long, played its single worst game of the season.
Speaker 1: That Patriots game was close because the defense played well,
Speaker 1: Brady didn't have as many turnovers, and because they weren't
Speaker 1: playing a team nearly as good as this Eagles team.
Speaker 1: But that Patriots team, which set the all time record
Speaker 1: for points, scored that Patriots team that was favored in
Speaker 1: some games that year de Monse by twenty four and
Speaker 1: a half points. That Patriots team scored fourteen points on
Speaker 1: the precipice of history, played its worst game of the year.
Speaker 1: And this Chiefs tea saying, no, I'm not saying levels
Speaker 1: the two out. What I'm what I'm.
Speaker 4: Saying is that we have now had two instances in
Speaker 4: my forty years where a team walked on the field saying, man,
Speaker 4: if we.
Speaker 1: Finished this, we are the goat team for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: It was a single season pursuit. For the Chiefs, it
Speaker 1: was a three year pursuit, and in both games, whether
Speaker 1: it's coincidence or the moment got to him, they couldn't
Speaker 1: finish the deal. And that loss still haunts Brady. He
Speaker 1: brings it up all the time. And I think one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that loss still haunts Brady is because
Speaker 1: he knew. He obviously knows now because the career is over,
Speaker 1: but I think he knew at the moment, this is
Speaker 1: the only chance I'm gonna get at this, The only
Speaker 1: chance I'm gonna get at an undefeated season is right here,
Speaker 1: right now. And I think for Patrick, he knew, man,
Speaker 1: the only chance I'm gonna get to three peat, to
Speaker 1: win a game, one, one more win and we're the
Speaker 1: greatest team ever is right here, right now. And it
Speaker 1: appeared to get to him a bit. And so that
Speaker 1: to me is the story of this game. Eagles fans.
Speaker 1: I promise I will give you your flowers in a bit.
Speaker 1: But Demanse asked some of these follow up questions before
Speaker 1: we get to legacy stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, who is one of the nicest slash meanest
Speaker 2: people that you heard from after the game. I know,
Speaker 2: folks are probably reaching out to you seeing how you
Speaker 2: were doing.
Speaker 1: Or I haven't read the text. Okay, I have not
Speaker 1: I have not read the texts Uh, that's what yesterday
Speaker 1: I say.
Speaker 2: I texted you during the game and you responded to
Speaker 2: me like yesterday at work or something like that.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, I responded to you when I saw it,
Speaker 1: which was you text me again yesterday something else and
Speaker 1: Demanse sent me a document yesterday and my response was
Speaker 1: thanks so much, Pal, I love you so much. It
Speaker 1: was made no sense in the document that he and
Speaker 1: then I realized, like, oh, I, but I was reading
Speaker 1: the text you sent me right after the game. No, Like,
Speaker 1: let me look at the phone right now, I'm not
Speaker 1: I have this is Can I put this up to
Speaker 1: the camera because people will think I'm lying? What do
Speaker 1: you think the number above my text messages is right
Speaker 1: now for unread unopen texts now, keep in mind it
Speaker 1: normally hovers around two hundred, like to be fair, because
Speaker 1: I'm weird about texting and the TuS so if it
Speaker 1: and keep in mind this number, I'm not in the
Speaker 1: only group chats I'm in are for this show and
Speaker 1: the TV show, and those aren't like peppering messages back
Speaker 1: in the wa it normally hovers around two hundred. What
Speaker 1: do you think the number is right now?
Speaker 3: Probably in the fives.
Speaker 1: Now does this show No, it's probably not gonna work.
Speaker 1: Five hundred and thirty eight, Yeah, five hundred and thirty eight.
Speaker 1: I don't know if those I gotta tell you, if
Speaker 1: you're watching this, if you text me during that football game,
Speaker 1: the only chance I'll ever see it is the next
Speaker 1: time you text me. I'm not. I Am not going
Speaker 1: to relive those feelings. I'm not. I uh yeah, like
Speaker 1: cause I'm part of my morning so I'm so ingrained
Speaker 1: in my morning routines of listening to podcasts. I now
Speaker 1: have just gone back and found a bunch of like
Speaker 1: the NBA trade deadline podcasts I didn't listen to during
Speaker 1: super Bowl week, and that's what I'm listening to. So
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm getting, I'm getting people's reaction to the
Speaker 1: Mark Williams trade that has since been vetoed Like I am,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna consume any super Bowl content and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be too painful. I have to create the content.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna consume it. I also, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you remember this, but I I'm sure you remember
Speaker 1: I bet Brazil to win the World Cup and said
Speaker 1: that the money I bet on it was gonna pay
Speaker 1: for a trip to go to Brazil after the World Cup,
Speaker 1: and I booked the trip preemptively. Is two Februaries ago,
Speaker 1: and then Brazil didn't win the World Cup, but your
Speaker 1: mom and I went anyway. Our trip we're taking in
Speaker 1: a week and a half. I don't think do you
Speaker 1: know where we're going? No, So so this is sometimes
Speaker 1: things work out the way they're supposed to. Because I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to act like I'm a real celebrity. I'm not,
Speaker 1: but I am shockingly recognized in I'm more recognized. It
Speaker 1: would appear from my experience in the Caribbean than in
Speaker 1: New York City. And I think it's got like the
Speaker 1: the amount of and by locals by like guys that
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of those guys love American
Speaker 1: sports and they don't always get the games, but they
Speaker 1: watch a ton of content YouTube, you know, TikTok stuff.
Speaker 1: So it would be a nightmare for me to on
Speaker 1: vacation go somewhere where a lot of people know me
Speaker 1: and by and normally in February, your mom and I
Speaker 1: go somewhere in the Caribbean to be warm. I am
Speaker 1: literally going halfway around the world as far away as
Speaker 1: I could, and it was already booked. We're going to
Speaker 1: New Zealand. We're going to New Zealand, eighteen hour do
Speaker 1: stop flight. And I god knows, like I haven't given
Speaker 1: any Rugby takes or all see rules football takes, so
Speaker 1: I will get to hide from this. Because here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. Where do I like to go gamble? The
Speaker 1: answer that question is Philadelphia. Well that's off the board
Speaker 1: for months, maybe life Like I can't deal with these people,
Speaker 1: and I was pretty yeah, I just can't deal. I
Speaker 1: really just can't deal.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: You asked a couple of other producer questions before we
Speaker 1: get to the legacy stuff.
Speaker 2: So all the first things, first stunts you guys had
Speaker 2: it planned, were some of them unplanned. That happened since
Speaker 2: you know, the Chiefs lost some of that little impromptu.
Speaker 1: That was all Wild's hub, Dusty and Brew. I was.
Speaker 1: I told them I knew they were gonna do something.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to know what they were gonna do, and.
Speaker 3: Just go ahead.
Speaker 1: That was by the way, let me look real quick,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be our I don't know what the TV
Speaker 1: ratings are gonna end up. I assume they're gonna be good.
Speaker 1: But not to sound like a jackass there, but people
Speaker 1: want to see me in pain? That twenty five minute
Speaker 1: A block has right now, it posted eighteen hours ago.
Speaker 1: Has let me check? Oh gosh, darn it. Don't actually
Speaker 1: play the video one million, nineteen thousand views eighteen hours
Speaker 1: ago of people just wanting to see ten thousand comments Wow,
Speaker 1: wanting to see me in pain.
Speaker 2: You say that people can't hate watch for game, but
Speaker 2: can they hate watch your show?
Speaker 3: Do you think that happens?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think. I think the people that want
Speaker 1: to see me in pain like the show. I think
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what I mean, I get it,
Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't think people want something they
Speaker 1: don't like. They you know what I mean? So I
Speaker 1: think they like the show. But it also felt again
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Galaxy brain again. I think the kids
Speaker 1: call this cope. But whatever, I think you'll agree with
Speaker 1: me here for what I do for a living and
Speaker 1: for our TV show and podcasts, specifically, the Chiefs. Losing
Speaker 1: that game made next season exponentially more interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I've literally said this to like three
Speaker 2: four core workers yesterday.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you had the same thought. I'm going places.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, that and it's because had they won,
Speaker 1: every Chief's conversation next year is boring. It's either well,
Speaker 1: it's not just people get tired of it. There's no
Speaker 1: there's no stakes attached to it. Demanse the they had
Speaker 1: they won, it's every Chiefs conversation is either a compliment
Speaker 1: fest or a poorly constructed you probably don't believe it.
Speaker 1: Here's why you can doubt them now. And it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be there, you know what I mean. And so now
Speaker 1: they have lost, they got their asses kicked. There's questions
Speaker 1: about Travis's future. And if someone goes into next year
Speaker 1: and is like, no, I mean, Philly's the best team.
Speaker 1: That's a totally fair take. Somebody goes into next year
Speaker 1: and says the Eagle, I'm sorry, the Bills or the
Speaker 1: Ravens are going to copy the blueprint of what Philly did. That.
Speaker 1: I might disagree with their ability to do that, but
Speaker 1: that's a fair take. Like all those there's real stakes
Speaker 1: attached now, yeah, the and there is too, Yes, and
Speaker 1: an again, I promise we'll get to Philly, but let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's go to the legacy stuff and before we get
Speaker 1: to Philly.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is definitely one of, if not the
Speaker 2: worst game of Patrick Mahomes's career. At the half, he
Speaker 2: had thirty three yards, two picks, ten point seven passer rating.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Reid couldn't scheme up anything. Uh and Patrick Mahomes couldn't
Speaker 2: seem to get away from them? Is how what does
Speaker 2: this mean for his legacy?
Speaker 1: Okay, so this isn't This might be the most important
Speaker 1: conversation on the pod, except for when I have to
Speaker 1: tell the story about what happened to me the night
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl with Jalen Hurt's family, who was delightful.
Speaker 1: But it's an unbelievable story. So this simultaneously means everything
Speaker 1: and nothing to Mahomes' legacy. It means everything to his
Speaker 1: legacy in one specific way, his pursuit of Tom Brady
Speaker 1: be the greatest player of all time. It took a
Speaker 1: huge hit. And I understand Tom's three and two in
Speaker 1: Super Bowls through you know, in this until he was
Speaker 1: thirty five, I you know, lost two of his first
Speaker 1: five like Patrick. I mentioned the seven corlers. This, I
Speaker 1: get all that. That's not I'm not making the point
Speaker 1: of like, oh, you can't overcome this loss. I'm making
Speaker 1: the point that this was a chance to do something
Speaker 1: Tom had never done, and he almost assuredly never get
Speaker 1: this chance again. So then it kind of does become
Speaker 1: a count. The rings count, the accomplishment's thing. And I
Speaker 1: don't think Patrick's going to play for a quarter century
Speaker 1: like Tom did, and so there and Patrick's not going
Speaker 1: to be doing it in a division that has zero
Speaker 1: competent coaches or quarterbacks for his entire career like Tom did.
Speaker 1: So it just so for the pursuit of Brady, this
Speaker 1: was massive for him. Compared to anyone else in the
Speaker 1: league or in league history, it means almost nothing. He
Speaker 1: had lapped them all already. So I let me give you,
Speaker 1: so who are so? For the for the other quarterbacks
Speaker 1: currently playing, If someone wants to say, Jalen Hurts gets
Speaker 1: to call himself best quarterback in the league right now,
Speaker 1: I'll listen to it, and again I'll to Jalen in
Speaker 1: a bit. I think that would be a bridge way
Speaker 1: too far. But it's like, hey, he's played in the
Speaker 1: super Bowl twice in the last three years. He was
Speaker 1: awesome in both games. He was the champion. Now like
Speaker 1: he gets it like that. The argument against that is
Speaker 1: to me a one on like, are we even being
Speaker 1: serious here? He thinks the best quarterback in football. But
Speaker 1: you can just be like, no, the wins. I am
Speaker 1: a wins guy. That's what it is. That's all fine.
Speaker 1: I so I oddly, even though I don't think Jalen
Speaker 1: is as good as Josh Lamar or Joe, I will
Speaker 1: listen to a Jalen Hurts deserves the spot at top
Speaker 1: Mahomes Mountain before I will listen to Josh Lamar or
Speaker 1: Joe do. Because what cannot happen is how someone performs
Speaker 1: in a Super Bowl knocks them down. So someone who
Speaker 1: a direct competitor who they beat and outplayed to get
Speaker 1: to that Super Bowl gets elevated. So in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: the reason Joe Burrow didn't have a chance to have
Speaker 1: this done to him by the Eagles defense was because
Speaker 1: Patrick beat him and outplayed him in the AFC Championship Game.
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three, the reason Lamar didn't have a
Speaker 1: chance to have this done to him by the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers is because Patrick beat him and
Speaker 1: outplayed him in the AFC Championship Game. And in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, the reason Josh Allen didn't have a chance
Speaker 1: to have this done to him by this Eagles defense
Speaker 1: is because Patrick beat him and outplayed him in the
Speaker 1: afa Championship Game. So what this game means for mahomes
Speaker 1: current standing amongst contemporaries is nothing. Nothing. What it means
Speaker 1: for his standing amongst the all time greats, well, I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody is going to argue, oh he Now
Speaker 1: if someone were going to like, who are the other guys?
Speaker 1: He's up against the only other guy other than Braid. Again,
Speaker 1: Brady is here. So we're talking about everyone beneath Brady Well,
Speaker 1: who's been to as many Super Bowls as Patrick only Lway.
Speaker 1: Did Elway ever get blown out? Uh? Yeah? Did he
Speaker 1: ever lose Super Bowls? Lost his first three? So it
Speaker 1: is is that a thing that we're worried about here?
Speaker 1: So we're gonna say John Elway. John Lway lost Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty five to ten, and it was, by the way,
Speaker 1: after losing a Super Bowl forty two to ten, and
Speaker 1: after losing a Super Bowl thirty nine to twenty. So okay,
Speaker 1: so elway, we're throwing l Way out Peyton Manning Well,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning lost to Super Bowl forty three
Speaker 1: to eight, very similar circumstances, and it was after he
Speaker 1: had arguably the greatest season to any quarterbacks ever had. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're not gonna elevate those two guys. The argument
Speaker 1: for elevation of one guy Joe Cool Joe Montana. Joe
Speaker 1: Montana played in four Super Bowls and played great in
Speaker 1: all four Super Bowls, never threw a pick one all four.
Speaker 1: You know, he was on the other side of that
Speaker 1: Lway fifty five to ten law or loss. Here is
Speaker 1: the problem, and this is the tentacles kind of of
Speaker 1: part of old Lebron Jordan arguments Joe Montana from nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six eighty seven, I'm sorry, nineteen eighty five, eighty six,
Speaker 1: eighty seven. In those three years, Demonse went to the
Speaker 1: playoffs three times, lost in the playoffs in the first
Speaker 1: in his first game all three times. In those three games,
Speaker 1: had a total of zero touchdowns, had four interceptions, and
Speaker 1: lost three times by double digits, once forty nine to three.
Speaker 1: So the argument that like, Oh, if you're great, this
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to you. That's three years in a row,
Speaker 1: Smack dab in the middle of his prime where he
Speaker 1: didn't win a playoff game where he got blown up
Speaker 1: out where they couldn't move the football. He lost back
Speaker 1: to back years in the playoffs where he has often
Speaker 1: scored three points, where he didn't score a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: what I won't And this is a fundamental belief I
Speaker 1: have about sports. There is no championship round performance that
Speaker 1: results in a loss that is worse than a first
Speaker 1: round performance that results in a loss. Just this. And
Speaker 1: so I don't know who else is on this list
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about, like, oh, we're gonna elevate Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers never played brutal in a Super Bowl? Yeh, because
Speaker 1: he played twenty years and got to one. And so
Speaker 1: like you, you're correct. But so there's just so. If
Speaker 1: the argument is Tom Brady is the only legend to
Speaker 1: ever play quarterback in NFL history, fine, But if the
Speaker 1: legend quarterback room has two or more seats, Patrick's the
Speaker 1: first person to sit down in that second seat. And
Speaker 1: that's with this performance. There is not a guy you
Speaker 1: can find that didn't have horrifying postseason losses. There isn't one,
Speaker 1: and Patrick remains the only player to never have the
Speaker 1: horrifying postseason loss early. And this is again where if
Speaker 1: we are going to be I think fair, we are
Speaker 1: going to acknowledge that the year Tom was trying to
Speaker 1: do what Patrick was trying to do this week, which
Speaker 1: was execute a three peat. He lost in the divisional
Speaker 1: round to Jay Cutler twenty seven thirteen, throwing a couple picks,
Speaker 1: including a pick six. Like again, and that's wasn't a
Speaker 1: super Bowl it was he played so poorly in that
Speaker 1: game they didn't get to the super Bowl. Again. Tom's
Speaker 1: resume is unimpeachable. But what we're not gonna do is
Speaker 1: act like there is this group of quarterbacks current or
Speaker 1: in the past who don't have some brutal playoff losses
Speaker 1: on their resume. Patrick remains the only guy who I
Speaker 1: would argue has just won. And you can say, yeah,
Speaker 1: but it came on the biggest stage. Came on the
Speaker 1: biggest stage, because that's the only stage he plays on.
Speaker 1: It's unfathomable at this point that he would be playing
Speaker 1: in the wild card round and getting blown out. You
Speaker 1: can't even conceptualize that that happened to Joe Montana coming
Speaker 1: off a Super Bowl in back to back years. So again,
Speaker 1: like I I will, there's a lot of fair criticism
Speaker 1: about this game. There is not a lot of Well,
Speaker 1: now we have to rethink. You know where where Patrick
Speaker 1: is in NFL history. That's not a thing now we do.
Speaker 1: If you were calling him already the greatest of all time,
Speaker 1: you got to rethink that. I said, had he won,
Speaker 1: I would call him that he didn't. And the results
Speaker 1: of the games matter. All right, We're gonna get to
Speaker 1: my Super Bowl Leaves story. Nick Sirianni Jalen hurts Howie
Speaker 1: Roseman in the rundown. It says I owe them all apologies.
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Speaker 1: All right, now to the Eagles piece of it?
Speaker 2: All right, so we we know how you've always felt
Speaker 2: about Sirianni Jalen Hurts, say struggles the middle, throws across
Speaker 2: the field, you only like throw it up the sideline.
Speaker 2: You even referred to Howie Roseman as a mock draft GM.
Speaker 3: So where does this wind put them in your head?
Speaker 1: All right, I'll do Hurts last, let me do Howie.
Speaker 1: Howie is the apology I owe the loudest to. Even
Speaker 1: though the doubt was probably the briefest and least renowned.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows, you know, well documented doubts about Sirianni and
Speaker 1: the things for good and for bad I've said about
Speaker 1: Jalen Howie. I I didn't like the fact that when
Speaker 1: I called him a mock draft GM, what I said
Speaker 1: was how he rose Men's drafts are very best player available,
Speaker 1: and they very often best player available is the mock
Speaker 1: draft consensus best player. And so what would happen after
Speaker 1: the drafts is all of the people who did mock drafts,
Speaker 1: how he agreed with a lot of them, would draft
Speaker 1: said player. And then I'm gonna be like, Howie Roseman
Speaker 1: crushed it again, and I thought it was a little
Speaker 1: tagai wag, tag tail wagging the doggish. However, whether that
Speaker 1: you know, that just means that's the right way to draft,
Speaker 1: whether it means my analysis was off, whatever, it means
Speaker 1: that guy is built three distinct Super Bowl contenders and
Speaker 1: two Super Bowl champions, did it with Carson, rebuilt it
Speaker 1: on the fly with a totally different defense two years
Speaker 1: ago with Jalen Hurts, and did it this year. And
Speaker 1: so I think he has earned the claim of being
Speaker 1: the second best GM in the entire NFL. So absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean, Howie Roseman, he also, you know, seemingly it
Speaker 1: was him that because we know what in Siriani that
Speaker 1: picked Kellen Moore and more importantly, Vic Fangio and Vic
Speaker 1: Fangio just painted his masterpiece. So Howie full credit.
Speaker 3: Right after the defense hues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, last year the worst defensive football, worst defensive football.
Speaker 1: It turned around with a lot of this and how
Speaker 1: He's two rookies played great, Quinn and Mitchell and Cooper Dejan.
Speaker 1: They brought in Zach Bond. He almost won Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. Vick was unbelievable. Jalen Carter, who was
Speaker 1: a risky top ten pick, was the second best d
Speaker 1: tackle in football arguably this year. So honestly, honest to God,
Speaker 1: full credit, full credit, Sirianne, I might just not know
Speaker 1: what football players will relate to from a head coach,
Speaker 1: like in the so coaches that I have been. Three
Speaker 1: of the coaches that I have been most skeptical of
Speaker 1: in the last five years, Dan Campbell after the bite
Speaker 1: the knees press conference, I just the bite the knee
Speaker 1: capture the I'm just being honest. My reaction was, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's like meathead and then there's whatever this is. Turns
Speaker 1: out he's like the sharpest analytics guy in the world.
Speaker 1: His players would kill for him. He loved like, he's awesome.
Speaker 1: My snap reaction was wrong. Second one, Joe Mizzoula. It's
Speaker 1: like this dude's talking about the floor tastes and like blood.
Speaker 1: He's watching the town. It was sixteen. He's just like,
Speaker 1: he's a like, what is going on? He got elevated
Speaker 1: to a position he wasn't ready for. He's awesome and
Speaker 1: his players love him. Then they're Sirianni who probably had
Speaker 1: the single worst opening press conference ever where he seemed
Speaker 1: very unsure of himself and almost timid. It feels to
Speaker 1: me like he then over corrected and was like, essentially,
Speaker 1: I'm just going to embrace every South Philly stereotype there
Speaker 1: ever has been and be brash and kind of a
Speaker 1: you know, like provocative in these things. But again, wins
Speaker 1: are a coaching stat and this team consistently wins. He
Speaker 1: just won a Super Bowl where his team played one
Speaker 1: of the best games any team has played in a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in forty years. He has to get credit.
Speaker 1: He he has to be considered one of the five
Speaker 1: or six best coaches in football. It's not fair to
Speaker 1: elevate Kevin O'Connell, who I like a lot but has
Speaker 1: accomplished nothing above Sirianni, it's not right like fair is fair.
Speaker 1: So even if from a personality standpoint, I don't get it.
Speaker 1: They've just won sixteen of seventeen games. The one lost
Speaker 1: their quarterback got hurt. They blew out a team in
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game, and blew out a team trying
Speaker 1: to be the greatest team volts time in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Guys have been to the playoffs all four years. They've
Speaker 1: had two awesome playoff runs like he gets the credit.
Speaker 1: And then there's Jalen who would you Demond's eight and
Speaker 1: be honest with me here, You're not gonna hurt, but
Speaker 1: you're not make me mad hurt my feelings. Would you
Speaker 1: have described me as a Jalen Hurts hater or a
Speaker 1: Jailen Hurts skeptic if you were only given those two options,
Speaker 1: like and again you can.
Speaker 2: I'd say, I'd say you're a Lamar Jackson hater. As
Speaker 2: far as Jalen Hurts, I'd see it as a skeptic.
Speaker 1: So it's so funny you say that because I obviously
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say obviously at this point, but I have
Speaker 1: always thought Lamar is a better player than Jalen. But
Speaker 1: I've also thought the way I've talked about Lamar and
Speaker 1: holding him to an MVP standard, and the doubt and
Speaker 1: the Aaron Judge and James Harden stuff in the choking
Speaker 1: and Big Games. Calling me a Lamar Jackson hater, certainly
Speaker 1: compared to the rest of the media, I think was
Speaker 1: totally fair. I never would consider myself a jail and
Speaker 1: Hurts hater. I thought that on the line graph of
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt's opinions in the media, mine is somewhere in
Speaker 1: like the thirty fifth percentile. Like I probably was a
Speaker 1: little more critical of him than the average media member,
Speaker 1: but certainly not the most and certainly not a guy
Speaker 1: that I spent a lot of time going after. I
Speaker 1: just like was kind of matter of fact that, Hey,
Speaker 1: I think the guy does a lot of things well,
Speaker 1: but I don't really trust him as a drop back passer.
Speaker 1: He had that unbelievable game in the Super Bowl two
Speaker 1: years ago. I haven't seen him do it again since,
Speaker 1: you know, to use the Barkley terms, you know, he's
Speaker 1: a bus rider, not a bus driver. Like those are
Speaker 1: the things I've said, and I'll get to his performance
Speaker 1: in this game in a moment, but I have to
Speaker 1: give you that setup for this story. So Saturday night,
Speaker 1: Clutch Sports party at Brennan's in New Orleans, and it's
Speaker 1: me your mom Demons again for the new audience members,
Speaker 1: be like, you're hanging out with your close mom that's
Speaker 1: also my wife and uh, your mom's best friend. You're
Speaker 1: on Nicole. And as he's always the case at every
Speaker 1: party I've ever been to with your mother, particularly when
Speaker 1: it's your mother and Nicole, We're in there less than
Speaker 1: five minutes and they have been invited into a section
Speaker 1: to sit down because their feet hurt and because they're
Speaker 1: beautiful women and they're just you know, pretty privilege. I
Speaker 1: think it's called and so. And the people whose section
Speaker 1: is you know it's you know, basically say you can
Speaker 1: come into, but I don't. It's not I it's not
Speaker 1: really my thing. Like I I'm not gonna like there's
Speaker 1: limited seat space, there's all like the the even at
Speaker 1: a party like this when the drinks are free, like
Speaker 1: those are your bottles? Like I think I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna be stand offish. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be rude, but I'm not. I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: crossing the rope so to take you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And and also like, you know, I want to move
Speaker 1: around the room. I know a lot of people there.
Speaker 1: I you know, get my own drinks and whatever. But
Speaker 1: they're hanging out there for an hour, hour and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm moving back and forth. Say hi to my agent,
Speaker 1: say hi to other people. Are not argue, but you know,
Speaker 1: Philly fans come up to me and they're like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: we're gonna kill you tomorrow. And I say, man, I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoy tonight because tomorrow is gonna be the
Speaker 1: worst day of your life. Little did I know?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Where a good time? A couple hours into the night. Oh,
Speaker 1: another context for it, there's a UFC fight on the
Speaker 1: Big Strickland pay per view and it's on Oh I
Speaker 1: should have said this. This Clutch Sports party partnered with DraftKings.
Speaker 1: It's DraftKings Clutch Sports party, so they have a giant
Speaker 1: video board play in the fight. And where your mom
Speaker 1: was sitting was like the perfect spot to watch the fight.
Speaker 1: And I was into the fight. So once the fight started,
Speaker 1: I moved over to where I'm standing right outside the
Speaker 1: section watching this fight, and I stand there. You know
Speaker 1: how I watched non chief sporting events. I just stand
Speaker 1: totally still, arms crossed, like kind of looking. I don't
Speaker 1: know crazy is the wrong word, but I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm in in tensely watching the event. So I'm just
Speaker 1: standing there silently watching the event. But I've now been
Speaker 1: standing there probably you know. It's five round, five minute round,
Speaker 1: five round fight. I watched the whole thing standing right there.
Speaker 1: So it is standing there silently for a half hour,
Speaker 1: not really thinking, just whatever. Right after the fight ends,
Speaker 1: this woman comes up to me, who was sitting in
Speaker 1: the same section but across from your mom, and says, uh,
Speaker 1: I would like to ask you a question, like of course,
Speaker 1: And she said, why do you talk so bad about
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts And I said, oh, I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that that's fair. She
Speaker 1: was like, yes, it is. You always talk bad about it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, you know, I I have
Speaker 1: questions about his ability as a drop back pass her.
Speaker 1: It's my opinion, Like, I don't think I've ever been personal,
Speaker 1: I've ever been unfair. You know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: basically agree to disagree, and she's not having it now.
Speaker 1: She's incredibly polite but very adamant that I have been
Speaker 1: unfair and I don't even know if inaccurate, but unfair
Speaker 1: about my Jalen Hurts commentary. So I'm like, okay, you know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: the we can certainly have this conversation. Because if it
Speaker 1: were again, this is me showing kind of how my
Speaker 1: brain works. If it were a guy, particularly a guy
Speaker 1: my age or younger, I'd have quickly been like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know, agree to disagree whatever. But because it was
Speaker 1: a woman, and a woman that I perceived to be
Speaker 1: older than me, I felt like I have an obligation
Speaker 1: here to be uber respectful and to just you know you,
Speaker 1: if you really want to have this conversation, we can
Speaker 1: have this conversation. And so I'm like, let me tell
Speaker 1: you the good things I've said about Jail. She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried we're talking about that. I'm like, well, no,
Speaker 1: let me let me paint you the full picture, right,
Speaker 1: let me paint you the full picture. So I listed
Speaker 1: that the first time we ever talked about him was
Speaker 1: when he got benched in college and how well I
Speaker 1: thought he dealt with that about you know, I go
Speaker 1: through a bunch of stuff. I was like, and now
Speaker 1: let me tell you, I think the single most critical
Speaker 1: thing I've ever said about Jailing that is probably what
Speaker 1: you were sent or you've seen or whatever. I was like,
Speaker 1: I called him the weak link of the Eagles offense.
Speaker 1: I was like, and I know that sounds awful. I
Speaker 1: was like, but I believe the Eagles have a top
Speaker 1: two offensive line, a top two receiving corps, a top
Speaker 1: two running back. I so even if I think Jalen
Speaker 1: is a top ten quarterback, that would make him the
Speaker 1: weak link. And she still is like usually like I'm
Speaker 1: a little charming. I feel like I'm, you know, making
Speaker 1: the case whatever, not really having it. And then I
Speaker 1: realized something I should have realized much earlier in the conversation.
Speaker 1: And I said, man, may ask you a question. Said yes,
Speaker 1: I said, are you Jalen hurts mother? And she said yes,
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, man, I was like, and
Speaker 1: I told her and I was like, listen, you're putting
Speaker 1: me in a brutal spot. She was like, I don't know. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't want to misquote her at all. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she said, what do you mean or no,
Speaker 1: I'm not or whatever. I was like, because now that
Speaker 1: I know you're his mother, what I should do is
Speaker 1: just say I'm sorry for everything I've ever said, or
Speaker 1: you know, I'm playing a character. You know, it's my job,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. I was like, but if I have
Speaker 1: any hope of you having any respect for me after this,
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to show you I do
Speaker 1: believe what I say. I try to never be personal
Speaker 1: and that we're you know what I mean, we might
Speaker 1: just have a difference of opinion on certain things, and
Speaker 1: so like, if you want to continue this conversation, I
Speaker 1: will do it, like because but ultimately I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to you know, are like have a weird thing here?
Speaker 1: And she was like, no, I want to talk. And
Speaker 1: so we talked for gosh, I don't know, another ten minutes,
Speaker 1: and at some point a guy came over and I'm
Speaker 1: not I I think it might have been Jalen's uh dad,
Speaker 1: but I'm not certain, uh who was. He didn't say
Speaker 1: anything in the conversation except for the fact that somehow
Speaker 1: Houston came up and he knew who you were. So
Speaker 1: my Jalen's dad was a you know, coach to Channel View. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean somehow like my FA that came up, and oh,
Speaker 1: I the I I kind of remember, I not, I
Speaker 1: kind of remember, I do remember, I said. I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: I I was like, my son played high level basketball,
Speaker 1: nothing like what your son is playing. I was like,
Speaker 1: but I was like, my son and Jalen, I think,
Speaker 1: are the exact same age. It's like I and I
Speaker 1: was like, and I watched my son, you know, play
Speaker 1: trying to you know, get a college scholarship, play high
Speaker 1: level basketball, and the guy standing there, he was like,
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I remember. He's like you lived in
Speaker 1: sugar Land, your son played at sugar Land or your
Speaker 1: son played in sugar Land, and so that that just
Speaker 1: now that I'm kind of piecing the night together, I'm like,
Speaker 1: maybe that was Jalen's dad or just family because they're
Speaker 1: from Houston and you guys would have been in high school.
Speaker 3: At the same time, same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and so all that all that would have
Speaker 1: made sense. And so the reason I even brought it
Speaker 1: up was I was like, I know, I know how
Speaker 1: parents watch their kid and then I know how the
Speaker 1: world watchs their kid like, it's probably not gonna be
Speaker 1: the exact same thing, whatever it is, And and then
Speaker 1: you know you don't have to give the entirety of
Speaker 1: the conversation. She obviously just thinks I'm wrong, which is
Speaker 1: what a mother should think. The And she thinks Jalen
Speaker 1: doesn't get enough credit for a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: that doesn't show up in the box score, which is
Speaker 1: totally fair. But I just I tell this long story
Speaker 1: because it's an unbelievable story, but also because for the
Speaker 1: ending of it, which is she says, what are you
Speaker 1: going to say when he wins? And I was like, well,
Speaker 1: if he and before she goes not if when he wins,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, you're not gonna like this answer.
Speaker 1: It's like, but I'm just I'm just gonna be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I can't tell you what I'm going to
Speaker 1: say about a game before I see how the game
Speaker 1: is played. I was like, and just knowing that they
Speaker 1: won doesn't tell me enough about how he played for
Speaker 1: me to be able to tell you what I will say.
Speaker 1: It's like, what I will guarantee you is this, if
Speaker 1: they win, I won't criticize him on Monday. It's like,
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that what's never happened is team
Speaker 1: wins the super Bowl as an underdog against one of
Speaker 1: the greatest teams ever. And I'm like, man, their quarterback
Speaker 1: wasn't good. It's like, I can promise you I won't
Speaker 1: criticize him. I was like, I can't promise you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give him the level of praise you want, you
Speaker 1: would want me to before I see the game. And again,
Speaker 1: I don't think she loved the answer, but I just
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, like, you know, agree, this is
Speaker 1: what it is. And she was incredibly gracious and a
Speaker 1: very sweet woman. And then I shook the other guy's hand.
Speaker 1: Then another guy came over, guy your age, maybe a
Speaker 1: little younger, and he came over and I put out
Speaker 1: to shake his hand and I said, hey, what's your name?
Speaker 1: And he was not of the mood of the other participants,
Speaker 1: who's like, doesn't matter what my name is. I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: got it, no problem. I was like, I'm Nick, nice
Speaker 1: to meet you. Like, I don't know there's Jalen's cousin.
Speaker 1: I don't know who it was, but yeah, I got
Speaker 1: serious cousin vibes, and I'm like, Okay, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. This has gone about as well as it
Speaker 1: could have gone all things considered. Yeah, And so that
Speaker 1: was that. So I tell all that story to now
Speaker 1: answer the question what am I gonna say? And what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is after that performance, it is I
Speaker 1: have had a top five quarterbacks list of Mahomes, Alan Burrow,
Speaker 1: Lamar Stafford pretty consistently over the last three years. There's
Speaker 1: been movement two through five, but that's basically been my list,
Speaker 1: and that has been on the back of Matt staff
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford's inclusion. There has been because man, guy kicked
Speaker 1: ass in Super Bowl, won a Super Bowl? Howm gonn
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion quarterbacks still playing well are there? Like
Speaker 1: it's him, Mahomes and then Russell, who's different player, Rogers,
Speaker 1: different player, Brady's gone, Like, winning a Super Bowl really
Speaker 1: matters a lot. Winning a Super Bowl in part because
Speaker 1: you played great and playing great in multiple Super Bowls
Speaker 1: has to matter a lot. So what I'll say is
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts now deserves to be just considered one of
Speaker 1: the five best quarterbacks it even if you have questions
Speaker 1: about his down to down, drop back passing ability, as
Speaker 1: I still do. He's a big game player. He's an
Speaker 1: incredibly tough player. He's a leader that deals with a
Speaker 1: very tough personality in aj an eccentric head coach. He
Speaker 1: never causes any problems or distractions for team. He agrees
Speaker 1: to continually run the toush push and that's a brutal
Speaker 1: play that really is so valuable to them. And he
Speaker 1: just thoroughly outplayed Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: beat him. And he also the guy who I had there,
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. He beat him in a game that Stafford
Speaker 1: played well, but Stafford made the big mistake in Jalen
Speaker 1: didn't with the fumble. So fair's fair, Like it's not
Speaker 1: right to just say Justin Herbert at this point is
Speaker 1: better than Jalen Hurts. It's not like the the arm
Speaker 1: talent is one thing, like that's not everything has to
Speaker 1: do with playing quarterback in this league. And he played
Speaker 1: great in the conference championship game. He played great in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl for the second time. He had one
Speaker 1: turnover the whole playoff run. He stepped up in the
Speaker 1: biggest moments. He's earned that flatly. He's just earned that,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna have to save the halftime show thoughts for
Speaker 1: a time when I've watched it because I was nervously
Speaker 1: circling the block. Have not watched it, and I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I may never see it. I don't know if I'll
Speaker 1: be able to like again. And I like Kendrick, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, exactly. We're gonna also have to
Speaker 1: save the story I tweeted about about your mom on
Speaker 1: the plane for later, because we've gone an hour twenty
Speaker 1: almost and I do want to talk about Lucas de
Speaker 1: last night, so go ahead and set it up.
Speaker 2: So he played for about twenty three minutes last night,
Speaker 2: fifteen to five and four. He's won for seven from
Speaker 2: from three. But the chemistry out there is looking good.
Speaker 2: Looks like they play together. Well yep, yeah, So obviously
Speaker 2: La made the seventy seven shirts to give away to
Speaker 2: the fans of the arena.
Speaker 3: Everybody's very exceptive.
Speaker 1: And Lebron text Luca during the day and said, we're
Speaker 1: going to introduce you last today. Now, Luca made it clear,
Speaker 1: because like that's a big thing. Now, Luca made it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the final introduction, that's the you know, the star of
Speaker 1: the team or whatever. Luca then made it clear after
Speaker 1: the game that that was a one time thing and
Speaker 1: it's going to go back to Lebron being introduced last
Speaker 1: and so. And Luca is obviously the best player on
Speaker 1: the team, but Lebron's Lebron, so he's gonna be he's
Speaker 1: introduced last. That's fine, man. I know intellectually that the Lakers'
Speaker 1: lack of rim protection because the Mark Williams trade got vetoed,
Speaker 1: should recap them. I know that from just a history
Speaker 1: of watching basketball. But I also know this, we have
Speaker 1: never in NBA history had two players with the combined
Speaker 1: IQ and combined passing ability of Luca and Lebron James
Speaker 1: on the same team. And you saw just glimpses of
Speaker 1: it last night. But what that will mean for the
Speaker 1: Lakers offense, I think people are actually underestimating. I think
Speaker 1: this can be a top three offense in basketball, and
Speaker 1: a top three offense you're a contender. If you have
Speaker 1: a top three offense, you still probably have to find
Speaker 1: a way to have a top fifteen defense, but you
Speaker 1: don't need a top three defense to be a contender
Speaker 1: if you have that offense. And what you also saw
Speaker 1: last night, Demons, what you have seen since the trade
Speaker 1: was made is a truly invigorated Lebron James, who last
Speaker 1: night on both ends of the court offense and defense,
Speaker 1: was dialed in in a way that he's not going
Speaker 1: to be able to be dialed in every single night,
Speaker 1: but because of Luca, he's not going to need to
Speaker 1: be so from defense.
Speaker 3: More effort on defense from Luca.
Speaker 1: To sure, But honestly, I don't care as much about that.
Speaker 1: I don't like I want Ideally Luca takes such an
Speaker 1: offensive burden off Lebron that he can then because even
Speaker 1: at age forty, Lebron is if if that's where he's
Speaker 1: expending his energy, is a better defender than Luca. And
Speaker 1: since we have got wind of this trade, what we
Speaker 1: have gotten from Lebron in four games and four victories
Speaker 1: is thirty one, eleven and nine on fifty seven fifty splits. Again,
Speaker 1: is he going to keep that up? No? But his
Speaker 1: season as is right now is one of the most
Speaker 1: remarkable things I've seen in the last decade in the
Speaker 1: NBA Lebron at age forty in year twenty two on
Speaker 1: a team that's winning without a co star for the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks because Ad was out and Luca
Speaker 1: just got there. That is right now essentially tied for
Speaker 1: third in the West, him giving you twenty four, eight
Speaker 1: and nine on fifty two thirty nine splits. And now
Speaker 1: you add Luca, who is going to rip the league's
Speaker 1: eyes out with anger. That's a tough team, man, and
Speaker 1: you I thought it was really important last night that
Speaker 1: Dirk showed up. Dirk showing up for that game means
Speaker 1: even the greatest mav in franchise history doesn't buy this
Speaker 1: idea that behind the scenes Luca was some train wreck
Speaker 1: and that he's got his back. Lebron saying to Luca,
Speaker 1: f fitting in, fit out, Luca, do your thing, has
Speaker 1: to be the coolest thing imaginable. He might be like
Speaker 1: guys Nick, he's a five time first small NBA guy.
Speaker 1: He's been discussed from the best player in the league.
Speaker 1: All that in Luca, all that's true, doesn't change the
Speaker 1: fact Lebron was his basketball idol, the guy he he
Speaker 1: mirrored his game off of and Lebron is saying to Luca,
Speaker 1: hey man, you got the car keys bro And again
Speaker 1: last night he didn't play out that way because he
Speaker 1: was on a minute's restriction. It was a blowout. He
Speaker 1: didn't play in the fourth quarter. Luca is going to
Speaker 1: be so sensational and so motivated, and it is going
Speaker 1: to take such a burden off of Lebron that you
Speaker 1: all of a sudden look at the Western Conference standings
Speaker 1: and you say, well, if you could just somehow freeze
Speaker 1: them right now, I think the Lakers would take it.
Speaker 1: Denver the three, Lakers the four, so that you would
Speaker 1: be on the opposite side of the bracket is Denver
Speaker 1: and you get Houston in round one. Sign me up.
Speaker 1: And I know that would then mean I guess the
Speaker 1: absolute best thing imaginable would be Lakers catching Denver and
Speaker 1: being the three and being on the opposite side of
Speaker 1: the bracket of Okac and Denver. That should be the
Speaker 1: goal now that I'm actually talking this through. The perfect
Speaker 1: runout for the Lakers in theory would be because oka
Speaker 1: See is the one and it's locked that somehow they
Speaker 1: catch Denver and Denver falls to the four and Denver
Speaker 1: and oka See play each other. Now, Lucas had a
Speaker 1: great history against ok See with his okay See team
Speaker 1: is great. But you cannot dismiss the Lakers' chances of
Speaker 1: coming out of the Western Conference because right now what
Speaker 1: they have is a top three player in Luca. And
Speaker 1: where is Lebron right now? The way he's playing, Remove
Speaker 1: from your head that he is in year twenty two
Speaker 1: and age forty, with how he is playing. Who are
Speaker 1: the guys in the league that are definitively better than him? Joker, Yannis,
Speaker 1: Luca Shay Indeed, come on, no, I mean Embeid doesn't play.
Speaker 1: I was I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna say, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna include this in the definitively better than him.
Speaker 2: Tatum, Oh yeah, I was gonna say, Tatum.
Speaker 1: I'm the Is there anyone on the Grizzlies?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Is there anyone on the Rockets?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I don't. Anthony Edwards. Sure give it to him, Anthony Edwards. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, So now we're at six. I just the
Speaker 1: way my brain works, I just need to like go
Speaker 1: team by team. But Wimby because he's the best defensive
Speaker 1: player in the sport. Okay, Wimby. Yes, we're at seven.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's the list. I don't think
Speaker 1: Donovan right now is better than Lebron. I don't think
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson right now is better than Lebron. And the
Speaker 1: other old guys Durant and Steph are not better than
Speaker 1: Lebron right now. So if you're the Lakers and you
Speaker 1: have a top three guy and a conservatively top ten guy,
Speaker 1: maybe the eighth best guy in the league this year,
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis would have had a claim too, but he's hurt. Again,
Speaker 1: that's a dangerous team man. And Lebron's ability to now
Speaker 1: pace himself to take games off, which again, he's played
Speaker 1: forty seven games this year, So what does that mean.
Speaker 1: He's missed four what the Lakers. He's played forty seven.
Speaker 1: The Lakers have played fifty one. He he's missed four.
Speaker 1: And it also means, by the way, le Bron's gonna
Speaker 1: catch another All NBA team because if it even was borderline,
Speaker 1: all these other guys are gonna be ineligible. Ad Now
Speaker 1: is gonna be ineligible because he's not gonna play sixty
Speaker 1: five games. Lucas ineligible. He is not playing sixty five games.
Speaker 1: They're like Kawhi's I think he's gonna BEA's not playing
Speaker 1: well enough anyway, He's playing fine, but he's gonna be
Speaker 1: ineligible like uh, obvious, obviously Imbiid's not gonna be eligible
Speaker 1: like those guys aren't playing. And so I I never
Speaker 1: thought this Lakers team was going to be fascinating from
Speaker 1: a championship standpoint, But now they have Luka Ancic. And
Speaker 1: if Luca can take Kyrie and role players to the finals,
Speaker 1: what about when it's Lebron and role players? Now again,
Speaker 1: those MAVs role players, they had multiple centers. There's a
Speaker 1: reason the Lakers trade for Mark Williams. I get all that,
Speaker 1: but look out, and there are some games I'm circling personally.
Speaker 3: Does a Lakers chip makeup for what just happened on Sunday?
Speaker 3: A little bit?
Speaker 1: Maybe fifty Nothing could make up for what happened on Sunday,
Speaker 1: but it is it would salve the wound a bit. Okay,
Speaker 1: Lakers next three demands A yeah, Utah, Charlotte Portland. Now
Speaker 1: Portland's playing better, but you're gonna be able to get on,
Speaker 1: you know, And they've they've already won six in a row.
Speaker 1: They should get to that national TV game against Denver
Speaker 1: on a nine game winning streak, and then at Denver
Speaker 1: on ABC a week from Saturday, and home for Dallas
Speaker 1: on TNT two weeks from today. Oh man, A tough
Speaker 1: stretch Denver, Dallas, Minnesota, Clippers, Clippers, New Orleans, not tough
Speaker 1: New York, Boston, you know. So like they've got some
Speaker 1: tough stretches. And at the end of the year when
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fighting for seating because of the wildfires,
Speaker 1: they moved some games. They have a five game in
Speaker 1: seven night stretch that he's home for the Warriors, home
Speaker 1: for New Orleans on a back to back, then at OKAC,
Speaker 1: then at Okay se again, and then Luca's return to
Speaker 1: Dallas on a back to back. So that that five
Speaker 1: game stretch you're working, Yeah, absolutely is brutal. But that's
Speaker 1: you know, that's right before the postseason, all right, ninety minute.
Speaker 3: Show ze for the.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, everybody seemed to know that was going to happen.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the breaking news on it, but I
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to dismiss it. My point is the
Speaker 1: Saints being one of the first teams to fire their
Speaker 1: coach and then not not hiring a coach didn't make sense,
Speaker 1: so they were just waiting on that, all right. Thank
Speaker 1: you to DraftKings, thank you to the Volume, thank you
Speaker 1: to people Blue Duck. Thank you to you to Monsday.
Speaker 1: See you guys on Thursday, see you on. I'll be
Speaker 1: on with Colin in an hour. Oh jeez, it's new
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