Speaker 1: Warring.
Speaker 2: Today's episode will contain spoilers for some of our favorite
Speaker 2: heist movies, which is a genre that Rosie and I
Speaker 2: will hold close to our hearts, so be warned. Hello,
Speaker 2: my name is jasonceepcio hed on Mersey Night, and welcome
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Speaker 4: News plast news. In today's episode, we are super excited
Speaker 4: to be joined by super producer Ian to discuss what
Speaker 4: makes a great heist movie and then we will pitch
Speaker 4: some of our favorites. So Ian, great to have you here,
Speaker 4: ready to hoist up some great heist recommendations.
Speaker 1: How are you doing great?
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. As Jason mentioned, you know like
Speaker 3: heist movies, that's one of my favorite genres in film too.
Speaker 3: There's always so many great elements twist and turn, so
Speaker 3: I think there are some of my favorite kinds of
Speaker 3: movies too, for sure.
Speaker 2: What was it that started your heist movie journey? Do
Speaker 2: you do you remember? And what puts you on this
Speaker 2: path where right now you're just like on a heist
Speaker 2: movie vibe.
Speaker 3: I think it was Oceans eleven. I think those Oceans
Speaker 3: films I think started started my love for the movies,
Speaker 3: and then after that, I just like started seeking out
Speaker 3: more and more, and so I think I've watched almost
Speaker 3: all of the major, like prominent ones. But I'm excited
Speaker 3: to hear what some of your guys' favorites are. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I would say the Ocean's movies definitely like kickstarted that
Speaker 3: love for me because those movies are just so well done.
Speaker 3: There's exactly there's so much fun.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the elements, because I think a
Speaker 2: heist movie contains some very specific elements. Those elements, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of crossover with other genres. For instance, I
Speaker 2: think the spy thriller, most spy thrillers and not most
Speaker 2: many spy thrillers are actually yes, are heist movies on
Speaker 2: some level. But let's talk about these elements and how
Speaker 2: they all play together to create a wonderful, suspenseful hole.
Speaker 2: I here is what I think I think. First, we
Speaker 2: need and assembling the crew moment, right, You need a
Speaker 2: team of heisters that have very specific skill sets. You
Speaker 2: need like the boss mastermind, you need like the technical
Speaker 2: I know how to crack a safe person. You might
Speaker 2: need a driver Wheelman type character. You're gonna need the
Speaker 2: guns person. And then you're gonna need like the con
Speaker 2: the face, the person who's gonna go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then then occasionally, which I always think is fun
Speaker 2: when this happens, is you need like that the rookie
Speaker 2: I knew it this, I'm just you know, my dad
Speaker 2: used to do this and now I want to do
Speaker 2: it too, And they're kind of the wild card. So
Speaker 2: that's the first element. You need that team two, you
Speaker 2: need the plan. Part of what the wonderful thrill of
Speaker 2: a good heist movie is that the build up and
Speaker 2: the build up is so good because you get the
Speaker 2: assembling of the crew who are always assembled for some reason,
Speaker 2: either someone was wrong or it's one last yeah, whatever
Speaker 2: the case is. And then it's the problem solving. Let's
Speaker 2: case out this joint, and let's plan the how we're
Speaker 2: going to do this, and then of course the heist itself.
Speaker 2: So all of those elements are an act usually of
Speaker 2: the movie and can almost stand on their own as
Speaker 2: in terms of their arcs. Yeah, so, Ian, yes, what
Speaker 2: have you seen before we start recommending heist movies and
Speaker 2: what are some of your favorite ones, and let's talk
Speaker 2: about those.
Speaker 3: Sure Before we get to that, I just want to
Speaker 3: add to that list of like the elements that you listed.
Speaker 3: I think oftentimes there's usually like a betrayal of some
Speaker 3: kind of got to have a betrayal somebody who's you know,
Speaker 3: switched asides or playing both sides. And then I think
Speaker 3: the motivation for the heist is also great because sometimes
Speaker 3: it's like revenge. Sometimes the betrayal spurs that revenge yea,
Speaker 3: or or it's like to prove a point, you know,
Speaker 3: or to like crack the safe that couldn't be cracked.
Speaker 3: They said it couldn't be done kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Now you see me Like that just does me to
Speaker 4: the point that just the point.
Speaker 3: Exactly they're doing it for the flex Yeah. And then
Speaker 3: I love also when there's like a twist, which is
Speaker 3: usually coupled with a montage ll show you like how
Speaker 3: they actually pulled it off is not what you think happened.
Speaker 3: I love I love I love that like that switch up.
Speaker 3: So the movies that I've seen, it's an extensive list,
Speaker 3: but I'll just kind of give it to your rapid Fire,
Speaker 3: all the Oceans movies, including Oceans eight, which I think
Speaker 3: is underrated. Area, Inside Man, Classic the Town, classic inception, Heat, Heat,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen in a long time, so I need
Speaker 3: to rewatch that. It's been many years since I've seen Heat.
Speaker 1: You got to see him talk about the fuck us?
Speaker 2: You got that, she got a fast, you got.
Speaker 1: Your head is all the way up inside.
Speaker 2: The way.
Speaker 1: It's a classic classic click slick?
Speaker 5: Was that?
Speaker 4: Was that?
Speaker 3: What's that mean? One of my favorites, Den of Thieves,
Speaker 3: The first one, Oh my god. The second one not
Speaker 3: as much. The first one is so good, though one pretty.
Speaker 1: Much all filmed in my neighborhood. Sam, It's all Sam, Peter.
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't go with you. It's bad, but I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: But I love it. Okay.
Speaker 3: I ronan classic classic Italian job, the two thousand and
Speaker 3: three and one with Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 2: Okay, not the Michael Kine, Not the Michael Kine.
Speaker 3: The remake Gone in sixty Seconds one of Nick Cage's
Speaker 3: best movies.
Speaker 2: Also Peter, Yes, Juliana Jolie with Dreads, I believe.
Speaker 3: Yes, we love an appropriation moment.
Speaker 4: And uh in Fast and Furious really good Fast five.
Speaker 1: Oh there you are.
Speaker 3: Yep, Baby Driver excellent excellent driving in that movie. It's
Speaker 3: in the name set it off like.
Speaker 1: That movie.
Speaker 3: Triple Frontier is the more recent movie. I think it's
Speaker 3: from twenty nineteen. That's a quite enjoyed you.
Speaker 2: But I rewatched that recently and I really I liked
Speaker 2: it a lot more than with the first time I watched.
Speaker 2: I would urge people who watched it the first time,
Speaker 2: we're like, whatever, give give it another change, given another watch,
Speaker 2: it's very much a you know, money is the root
Speaker 2: of all evil type of thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and then just to finish up all the
Speaker 3: mission I possible movies. As you were saying, a lot
Speaker 3: of spy thrillers have like heist elements in them. Ambu
Speaker 3: l A and.
Speaker 4: Legendary insane Michael Bay movie from covid.
Speaker 3: Era Now You See Me one and two focus Will Smith,
Speaker 3: Margot Robbie. That's kind of like a sleeper underrated heisty movie.
Speaker 3: But that's one of my favorites. Widows.
Speaker 1: Yes, great way under seeing.
Speaker 3: Another Netflix Banger Red. Notice a lot of people think
Speaker 3: the movie is stupid. I think it's fun. Brian Reynolds,
Speaker 3: The Rock.
Speaker 1: I like this. I like this controversial take there. Okay.
Speaker 4: I also you also had two more left on here
Speaker 4: that I love. One of them is my full time.
Speaker 3: Fave Jackie Brown.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite Tarantino movie.
Speaker 3: And then Wrath of Man was a Jason stat and
Speaker 3: one that's a more recent one too. That's a big
Speaker 3: revenge heist.
Speaker 4: I have a Wrath of Man branded bag that they
Speaker 4: led me that I use for luggage.
Speaker 1: That's a fun movie.
Speaker 4: Okay, those are really good, Ian and I kind of
Speaker 4: love because you also do have I would say, not glaring.
Speaker 1: But as with heist movies, as with any genre, there
Speaker 1: are many great movies. So I think we still have
Speaker 1: some really good.
Speaker 4: Ones to recommend. Ye, Jason, do you want to start
Speaker 4: or do you want me to throw one?
Speaker 2: Sure, let's start. I'll start with my to me it
Speaker 2: is the heist movie that kind of set the template. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's my favorite heist movie. Well, it's one of my
Speaker 2: favorite heist movies, and I think it's a It's got
Speaker 2: a sequence in it that is completely silent. That is,
Speaker 2: I mean, you can see Mission Impossible in it, you
Speaker 2: can see heat in it, you can see a million
Speaker 2: different heist movies in every element of this movie. It
Speaker 2: is nineteen fifty six Refifi by Jules Dasson, Yes, and
Speaker 2: it is, Oh my god, it is so good. It's
Speaker 2: got all of those elements, the assembling, the team, the planning,
Speaker 2: and then the heist itself. It's about this criminal mastermind, Tony,
Speaker 2: who has just been released from prison for a previous
Speaker 2: heist and he gets approached about this job cracking this
Speaker 2: supposedly uncrackable safe in this you know, very fortified jeweled store,
Speaker 2: and it's just wonderful. And the thing I love about
Speaker 2: specifically about international heist movies and specifically French cinema and
Speaker 2: French heist movies. French you know movies like Pickpocket or
Speaker 2: you know these movies that come from that milieu, is
Speaker 2: there's like a there's a note of existent like dread
Speaker 2: that's under these movies. You know, a lot of the
Speaker 2: movies that there that we love that are American heist movies,
Speaker 2: there's like all this style, there's this panache. It's so fun.
Speaker 2: You know, the Ocean's movies. It's fun. They're wearing great
Speaker 2: clothes really like yeahine in Reffifi, there is everybody looks great.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of style, but there's also this feeling
Speaker 2: of nothing good will come of any of this. Everybody,
Speaker 2: the everybody who touches this, this idea, this plan, which
Speaker 2: is the only way really for these characters to try
Speaker 2: and live the life that they dream of. Everybody who
Speaker 2: touches this, no matter how innocent, the rookie, the you know,
Speaker 2: the person who is just tangentially involved, will come to
Speaker 2: a bad end. And that's Forffifi and it's you know,
Speaker 2: the black and white is gorgeous. Paris has never looked better.
Speaker 2: And then the heist itself again is like a twenty
Speaker 2: to thirty minute sequence that is completely silent. Check it out.
Speaker 2: It's got everything, It's got everything. Yeah, Rosie, what about you?
Speaker 1: Okay? I love that you started there.
Speaker 4: I am going to go in a similar One of
Speaker 4: my first ones I was thinking of I'm gonna go
Speaker 4: next is nineteen sixty four by.
Speaker 1: A guy called Jean Luke Goddard. Ever heard of him?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Hell, ever heard of?
Speaker 3: Maybe you have?
Speaker 1: Maybe you have, maybe happen.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's famous, he's French, but he.
Speaker 4: Made a movie that when I was a kid, was
Speaker 4: like my one of my favorite movies called Band of
Speaker 4: part or band of Outsiders, And.
Speaker 1: It's basically about.
Speaker 4: It's about two guys, friends and Arthur, and they basically
Speaker 4: spend their days just like fucking around talking about how
Speaker 4: much they love cinema, and they both have an obsession
Speaker 4: with a girl called Odie and she is kind of
Speaker 4: this inciting incident into these duo becoming a trio. And
Speaker 4: while they kind of spend their life romanticizing Westerns and
Speaker 4: outlaws and running around art galleries, they decide that they.
Speaker 1: Are going to plan a heist.
Speaker 4: And is it a heist because they actually want to
Speaker 4: steal something? Is it a hist because they want to
Speaker 4: go out in a kind of blaze of glory. Is
Speaker 4: it a heist because they don't have anything to do?
Speaker 4: This is just such an effortlessly cool movie. Also has
Speaker 4: that very dark thread of threat and existential crisis and
Speaker 4: kind of the way that enwi and boredom can drive
Speaker 4: you into different places and unexpected spaces. When I was
Speaker 4: a kid, MySpace like header was something like I want
Speaker 4: to run through the louver in two and a half
Speaker 4: minutes or thirteen minutes or whatever it is in this movie.
Speaker 1: So this was a very influential movie on me.
Speaker 4: And I think it really is up there with her
Speaker 4: a few feet as one of the kind.
Speaker 1: Of coolest and also interestingly rule breaking heist movies.
Speaker 4: This one breaks in Hollywood cinema making and heist movies.
Speaker 4: So yeah, another. I like that double bill of kind
Speaker 4: of originals. Jason, what are you pitching next?
Speaker 2: I want to stay French because I just think that
Speaker 2: they do it. I think I love the way they
Speaker 2: do it. I'm gonna go with Bob Laflambour Bob the
Speaker 2: Gambler from nineteen fifty six John Pierre Melville, The Legend
Speaker 2: John Piterre Melville one of my mate, one of my absolute, absolute,
Speaker 2: absolute favorites. It's about a gambler named Bob who lives
Speaker 2: in Paris, and he's this kind of mover and shaker
Speaker 2: in the kind of like underworld community, and he and
Speaker 2: his team like he's kind of the gambler, the cheat
Speaker 2: with the tart of gold like which we love. He
Speaker 2: sees these young people who were kind of edging into
Speaker 2: the underworld and he decides like to be a protector
Speaker 2: of these people. And the heist itself, which is this
Speaker 2: very very complex, convoluted heist of a casino, comes from
Speaker 2: this his desire to, you know, protect this young woman
Speaker 2: named Anne who's kind of like edging into this not
Speaker 2: even edging, is you know, a young beautiful woman who's
Speaker 2: who's poor, who is being taken into this underworld milieu
Speaker 2: of people who are looking to exploit her. And I
Speaker 2: think the thing that I really appreciate about Babla Flambourg
Speaker 2: is it really is a almost a paternal relationship. This
Speaker 2: is not like a I want to fuck this young woman. No,
Speaker 2: It's like he sees her as a daughter and decides, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to do this heist in order to kind
Speaker 2: of secure her her future but also make a lot
Speaker 2: of money for me and my team. And in true
Speaker 2: French style, it goes sideways and kind of the worst ways. Yes,
Speaker 2: but it's so stylish and good. Again, Melville is a legend.
Speaker 2: The remake, which stars Nick Nolty, is also very good.
Speaker 2: I think if you wanted to be good, I think
Speaker 2: if you wanted to edge into it that way, I
Speaker 2: would start with the original. But like the Nick Nolty
Speaker 2: version is also very good. So those two raffifi Bubla Flamborgy,
Speaker 2: do you have more, Rosie.
Speaker 4: I've got one more And then I'm going to stay
Speaker 4: in this I'm gonna stay in this space. This is
Speaker 4: a movie called The Burglars from nineteen seventy one, which
Speaker 4: I actually discovered recently thanks to like, you know, syndicated television.
Speaker 4: I believe I saw this on the channel Movie TV
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventies Athens. Omar Sharif and a is a
Speaker 4: detective trying to hunt down a group of professional burglars
Speaker 4: who are planning an emerald tice and it is legit
Speaker 4: one of the coolest.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this wasn't a bigger deal of a movie.
Speaker 1: It's a PG rated movie, but it is so cool.
Speaker 4: The showdown is unbelievable, all practical sets, all shot in
Speaker 4: these weird coastal towns. It's from the seventies, weird coastal
Speaker 4: towns of Athens. It's just such a beautifully shot movie.
Speaker 4: And it is very classic in kind of the American
Speaker 4: tradition of you are rooting for the thieves, like even
Speaker 4: though these guys are really just doing it because they
Speaker 4: want to steal something. It has great car chases, incredible
Speaker 4: thrilling action scenes, and it is in my opinion, deeply
Speaker 4: under scenes so that one for me was a big
Speaker 4: recent discovery by on re venue Jason.
Speaker 1: Third and final, what's yours?
Speaker 2: I have one more?
Speaker 1: Maybe after this too? You have another one week? Okay,
Speaker 1: got it?
Speaker 2: So you have, of course seen The Dark Knight, which
Speaker 2: I think the first twenty minutes of The Dark Knight
Speaker 2: is a wonderful heist picture. You've seen Inside Man, It's
Speaker 2: there on your list. The following movie is a huge
Speaker 2: influence on both the heist opening high sequence of The
Speaker 2: Dark Knight and Inside Man, which basically takes the entire
Speaker 2: height structure of this movie and implants it into Spike
Speaker 2: Lee's New York. The movie is nineteen nineties very underseen
Speaker 2: Quick Change starring Bill Murray, Geena Davis, Randy Quaid, and
Speaker 2: Jason Robards. It's about a Bill Murray who is a
Speaker 2: kind of like down on his luck guy in New
Speaker 2: York who cooks up this Coka Maimie way to make
Speaker 2: money quick and leave town, which is to rob a
Speaker 2: bank dressed as a clown, and the way it unfolds again,
Speaker 2: if you've seen Inside Man, it's the exact heist.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I can't swear it.
Speaker 2: For you, but he uses the clown motif to basically
Speaker 2: distract the police as the clowns exit the bank, and
Speaker 2: then he hides in the bank for like a while
Speaker 2: and then leaves. It's uh and it then turns into
Speaker 2: this like almost hallucinatory like travellg as they try to
Speaker 2: escape from the location of the heist through the weird
Speaker 2: streets of New York and these very strange neighborhoods where
Speaker 2: they're witnessing like you know, people on BMX bikes, jousting
Speaker 2: and this weird evil kind of It gets very very
Speaker 2: strange and it's divisive. Like I recommended this to Chase Rano,
Speaker 2: he hated it. I love this movie and it's again
Speaker 2: very very undersen Check it out. Quick Change nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: directed by Howard Franklin and Bulmer.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go for a movie that I think was
Speaker 4: a little in the same era, was a little bit
Speaker 4: underrated for a while there, but has been rated correctly
Speaker 4: by the film scene for a long time, and in
Speaker 4: the light of the tragic passing of Robert Redford, I
Speaker 4: feel like is now being recognized, and that is nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety two's Sneakers, which guys Robert Redford, Dan Ackroy, Ben Kingsley,
Speaker 4: Mary McDonald, River Phoenix, Sidney Pointier, David Strahan.
Speaker 3: Wow, Stacked Cast, Stacked.
Speaker 4: Cast, And it's basically about the best way to pitch
Speaker 4: it without ruining it is Robert Redford is a security
Speaker 4: pro and his team are like hackers, and they have
Speaker 4: to come back together to hack a retrievy, like you know,
Speaker 4: retrieve a particularly important and secretive item.
Speaker 1: And it is so good. It's so cool.
Speaker 4: It feels very both ahead of its time but also
Speaker 4: feels like if it was in black and white, you'd
Speaker 4: believe it was like a seventies movie, So it kind
Speaker 4: of has this great duality.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that cast is crazy.
Speaker 4: And it is also there's more people in it too,
Speaker 4: and also there is some really interesting early nineties hacker
Speaker 4: law and technology that then goes on to kind of
Speaker 4: influence other hacker movies of this style.
Speaker 1: So that's definitely a great one. I like The Way
Speaker 1: Into the.
Speaker 2: Night, Absolutely love that. It's one of my absolute favorite
Speaker 2: movies and it holds up. And the thing about that
Speaker 2: movie Ian too, is it's got one of my favorite themes,
Speaker 2: which is this kind of like the post boomer you know,
Speaker 2: like they were they were, you know, activists, and the
Speaker 2: sixties and how do they then translate that early and
Speaker 2: formative part of their life to the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 2: This is one of those movies that like takes two
Speaker 2: very divergent paths to figuring that out and sets these
Speaker 2: characters who take that path on on a collision coat movies.
Speaker 3: Okay, definitely, we'll check that out.
Speaker 1: That's a really good one.
Speaker 2: And then here's my final one. So I think with
Speaker 2: heist movies, there's two ways to do it. And the
Speaker 2: two ways are I love the robbers, like I wanna.
Speaker 2: It's wish fulfilment, Like I wish I was a smart
Speaker 2: I wish I had this, much like Guts, I wish
Speaker 2: that I had the wherewithal and the courage to come off, Yeah,
Speaker 2: to rip off a casino corporation, some organized crime.
Speaker 3: They deserved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we live in a corrupt world and I wanna
Speaker 2: and I wish somebody would do something about it, and
Speaker 2: I wish it was me. And that's one way to
Speaker 2: approach a heist movie. And I think I've pitched all
Speaker 2: the movies I've pitched thus far have been that version
Speaker 2: of it, right, And then there's the other version, which
Speaker 2: raffifi kind of touches on towards the end of the movie,
Speaker 2: which is you're a thief. These people are thieves. Forget
Speaker 2: who they're robbing from, They're criminals. And if you when
Speaker 2: you touch that life, you better be ready for it
Speaker 2: because the consequences, the tragedy, the violence that it's going
Speaker 2: to visit upon you are tragic on it, you know,
Speaker 2: and often on a Shakespeare level. And so this movie
Speaker 2: is that version of that. It's I think Sidney Lumett's
Speaker 2: last movie two thousand and seven's Before the Devil Knows
Speaker 2: You're Dead, starring Ethan Hawk and the wonderful Philip Seymour
Speaker 2: Hoffman and Mrs to May in a wonderful turn role.
Speaker 2: It's about two brothers, and what I love about this
Speaker 2: movie is it plays against type, like there's the weak
Speaker 2: brother and the strong brother, and like, just in your mind,
Speaker 2: you're thinking strong brother Ethan Hawk, weak brother, Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Speaker 3: It's her first.
Speaker 2: Oh, Phillip Seymour Hoffman is so manipulative and greedy and evil,
Speaker 2: and Ethan Hawk is just like wants to please him,
Speaker 2: is so weak that it's you can't take your eyes
Speaker 2: off what's going on on the screen and Philip Seymour
Speaker 2: Hoffman's idea is let's rob our parents jewelry store and
Speaker 2: what happens from Mary, It's what happens from there is
Speaker 2: truly like Shakespearean tragedy. Incredible movie and just like and
Speaker 2: every performer is like on a ten great movie and
Speaker 2: one that's kind of forgot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go for one that is a
Speaker 4: very popular, beloved eighties classic. But does does it get
Speaker 4: counted as a heist movie when it should? I also
Speaker 4: feel like it has some really great layers of Shakespearean
Speaker 4: tragedy because this has the duality of, well, they're robbing
Speaker 4: people in a Robin Hood style way for the better,
Speaker 4: but it still ends up in a tragic situation because
Speaker 4: of the nature of the way they're doing it, the recklessness,
Speaker 4: and also the ego of the leader body played by
Speaker 4: Patrick swayzee I am recommending point Break Ian.
Speaker 1: Iconogy.
Speaker 3: Okay, good Break.
Speaker 4: I'm putting it out there for the fans. I'm putting
Speaker 4: it out there for the listeners. Incredible movie, surprisingly subversive,
Speaker 4: directed by Catherine Bigelow, starring Keanu Reeves Patrick Swayzey in
Speaker 4: one of the best homo erotic relationships cinema. Also, guys,
Speaker 4: if you've never seen this movie, watch this movie and
Speaker 4: and watch the first Fast and Furious movie, because Fast
Speaker 4: and Furious is Point Break just changed from surf bank
Speaker 4: rubbers to tar sets.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of incredible.
Speaker 4: Because every beat for beat is the same and that
Speaker 4: is why Bin Diesel and his you know, homo erotic
Speaker 4: best friend Paul Walker in those movies are so intrinsically
Speaker 4: connected and love each other so much because of the
Speaker 4: fact that it is based on Point Break. But yeah,
Speaker 4: Point Break incredibly somehow a movie that will both break
Speaker 4: your heart but also inspire you.
Speaker 1: It's a movie about male friendship.
Speaker 4: We don't get a lot of those, and it does
Speaker 4: include some very iconic bank robbery scenes.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's just like peak nineties peaks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, peak late eighties, early nineties. It's everything you could
Speaker 4: want in a movie. It even has a crazy term
Speaker 4: by Gary Busey. So yeah, another great unexpected heist movie.
Speaker 4: This was such a great combo.
Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 1: I just love talking about movies with you.
Speaker 4: Guys, like, we got to do more more specif of it,
Speaker 4: John Rex, because this is so fun.
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick ad break and then and then
Speaker 3: I'll wrap it up with just like some of my
Speaker 3: favorite moments, and then love that a few like heist
Speaker 3: films that aren't traditional ones but that I would like
Speaker 3: throw into the mix, and then Okay, let's.
Speaker 4: See that.
Speaker 2: And we're back. Okay, let's talk about heist movies that
Speaker 2: are not considered heist movies. What are some of There
Speaker 2: are some really fun ones that we have here. You
Speaker 2: have written down die Hard, which is absolutely a heist movie,
Speaker 2: but not considered a heist movie. In fact, I think
Speaker 2: all all the all the die Hards on some levels
Speaker 2: and some kind of sure definitely for sure, but it's
Speaker 2: all it's often a heist from the other side, like there's.
Speaker 1: A gang inside.
Speaker 2: The gang has very specific roles in the way you
Speaker 2: love the mastermind, save cracker guy, the gun guy, like
Speaker 2: et cetera. But unfortunately you're on the other side. You're
Speaker 2: Infinity War, which absolutely has one of the fun.
Speaker 3: Is basically a giant height the entire.
Speaker 1: Love that one.
Speaker 2: It's awesome. And then Aladdin, which yes, perfect absolutely.
Speaker 4: Right blows my mind. In any other kinds of movies
Speaker 4: like this that you immediately think of that you would say, Hey,
Speaker 4: if I'm coming to the heist movie Sleepover, I'm bringing
Speaker 4: something that's gonna throw you off. Aladdin is a great
Speaker 4: call back because I think everyone just goes, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: like absolutely, he's the lamp.
Speaker 3: Hmmm. I would say those are the biggest ones, but
Speaker 3: I think one other one that comes to mind, Well,
Speaker 3: this kind of like ties into my next point, or
Speaker 3: some like some of my favorite moments or twists from
Speaker 3: from some of these movies. I'll say the Kremlin sequence
Speaker 3: from Mission Possible, Ghosts Protocol. I think that's like peak heist,
Speaker 3: like the disguises, the costumes, the technology. I love that
Speaker 3: moment specifically from that movie. So I would say I
Speaker 3: would throw that in the Ring as a movie that's
Speaker 3: not really a heist movie, but it has a lot
Speaker 3: of heisty elements, so I would throw ghost Protocol in there.
Speaker 3: And then some of my other favorite moments are twists.
Speaker 3: I know you're not a fan, Jason, but Den of Thieves,
Speaker 3: I think the and this is going to be a
Speaker 3: little bit of a spoiler if you haven't seen a movie,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry on.
Speaker 4: If you do don't want spoilers for the Gerard Butler movie.
Speaker 3: The twist or reveal at the end that Donnie was
Speaker 3: actually the mastermind. I love that. I thought that was
Speaker 3: and the first time I saw it, I didn't see
Speaker 3: that coming, so they got me. I love that.
Speaker 4: Okay, wait, you have just inspired me to pick to
Speaker 4: recommend another movie and it is an Edward Norton movie. Okay,
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm trying so hard to rake my braids.
Speaker 1: The for the name of this.
Speaker 4: Movie, but the it's oh, it's called the It's called
Speaker 4: The Score, and it is about it's Angela Bassett, Marlon
Speaker 4: Brando and Edward Norton and it basically is like a
Speaker 4: one last heist movie, but it has a really fantastic
Speaker 4: twist at the end. And it's directed by Frank cars.
Speaker 4: That's one of those movies where I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, good job.
Speaker 4: Actually kind of funny too, because Edward Noran has played
Speaker 4: this kind of twist before multiple times. But yeah, The
Speaker 4: Score is another really fun heist movie Underscene, not necessarily.
Speaker 1: As classic as some of the ones we're talking about.
Speaker 4: But in that kind of fun, enjoyable nineties era with
Speaker 4: with a big twist. Anymore classic heist movie twists ian
Speaker 4: that you think people should check out.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you haven't seen the Oceans movies at
Speaker 3: this point, what are you doing? But like all those
Speaker 3: movies have like the like third act is always predicated
Speaker 3: on like a big twist or the way they pulled
Speaker 3: off the heist is not what actually happened or not
Speaker 3: what you thought. So I think those are always great widows.
Speaker 3: I think has a really nice twist at the end.
Speaker 3: I won't spoil it because it's a big part of
Speaker 3: the movie. The cast is incredible, it's just a great movie.
Speaker 3: The twist at the end was really great. The betrayal
Speaker 3: there is wrapped up in the twists, so that's really
Speaker 3: good if you haven't seen and then, I mean it's
Speaker 3: hard to talk about some of these twists without spoiling
Speaker 3: you haven't seen that.
Speaker 2: Well, let's move on to heist movies that aren't really
Speaker 2: thought of as heist movies. I've got one with a
Speaker 2: great twist that I think you must see by the
Speaker 2: director Carl Franklin, who is kind of a legendary indie
Speaker 2: tour And it's one false move from nineteen ninety two
Speaker 2: and Independent crimes Er And it's really kind of like
Speaker 2: after the heist is over, the criminals are escaping, they're
Speaker 2: driving through you know, I believe it's like Arkansas or
Speaker 2: something like that, somewhere in the kind of like the South,
Speaker 2: and they're pulled over and it stars Bill Patston, Young Billy,
Speaker 2: Bob Thornton, Yeah, Cinda Williams, and I won't there's a
Speaker 2: twist that is incredible and I won't spoil it, but
Speaker 2: don't wikipedia this because there is a secret that is
Speaker 2: simmering under these characters and a relationship that comes to
Speaker 2: the surface in a surprising way. And it's got a
Speaker 2: lot of the elements of that kind of secondary category
Speaker 2: I was talking about in heist movies, where it's like
Speaker 2: tragedy and the life of crime and the bad things
Speaker 2: that can happen, but it it arrives with this a
Speaker 2: crude sense of drama from the view of this secret
Speaker 2: that seems to like like a like a bubble coming
Speaker 2: from the bottom of the ocean. Like it's almost like
Speaker 2: you can see it coming, you can feel it coming,
Speaker 2: and then when it emerges, it's incredible. One false move,
Speaker 2: just see it. It's it's it's the movie that made
Speaker 2: me aware that there was a thing called independent movies,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's also I will say, like this is like a
Speaker 4: legitimately just fucking brutal movie.
Speaker 1: So take brute, take your time.
Speaker 4: Watch it when you're into watching the kind of movie
Speaker 4: that you won't be able to stop thinking about. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I watched this one when I was on a crime tear,
Speaker 4: probably during lockdown, and I remember just being totally blown
Speaker 4: away and yeah, this is this is That's a great
Speaker 4: poll Jason.
Speaker 1: Also, guys, this will this list.
Speaker 4: You will be able to find it on Yes, the box,
Speaker 4: which does exist.
Speaker 1: I just need to do a bad job of updating it.
Speaker 1: Don't google it.
Speaker 2: If anybody here wants to watch one False Move nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety two is one false Move Bye by the legendary
Speaker 2: Cirl Franklin. Do not google it, because google it reveal
Speaker 2: is amazing.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, well this was so fun. I love so much.
Speaker 4: Guys, appreciate you joining us Ian and inspiring this super
Speaker 4: fun combo.
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