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Speaker 1: Warring.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode will contain spoilers for some of our favorite

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Speaker 2: heist movies, which is a genre that Rosie and I

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Speaker 2: will hold close to our hearts, so be warned. Hello,

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Speaker 2: my name is jasonceepcio hed on Mersey Night, and welcome

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Speaker 2: deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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Speaker 4: News plast news. In today's episode, we are super excited

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Speaker 4: to be joined by super producer Ian to discuss what

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Speaker 4: makes a great heist movie and then we will pitch

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Speaker 4: some of our favorites. So Ian, great to have you here,

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Speaker 4: ready to hoist up some great heist recommendations.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing great?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. As Jason mentioned, you know like

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Speaker 3: heist movies, that's one of my favorite genres in film too.

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Speaker 3: There's always so many great elements twist and turn, so

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Speaker 3: I think there are some of my favorite kinds of

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Speaker 2: What was it that started your heist movie journey? Do

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Speaker 2: you do you remember? And what puts you on this

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Speaker 3: I think it was Oceans eleven. I think those Oceans

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Speaker 3: films I think started started my love for the movies,

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Speaker 3: and then after that, I just like started seeking out

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Speaker 3: all of the major, like prominent ones. But I'm excited

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Speaker 3: to hear what some of your guys' favorites are. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would say the Ocean's movies definitely like kickstarted that

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Speaker 3: There's exactly there's so much fun.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the elements, because I think a

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Speaker 2: heist movie contains some very specific elements. Those elements, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of crossover with other genres. For instance, I

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Speaker 2: many spy thrillers are actually yes, are heist movies on

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Speaker 2: some level. But let's talk about these elements and how

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Speaker 2: they all play together to create a wonderful, suspenseful hole.

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Speaker 2: I here is what I think I think. First, we

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Speaker 2: I know how to crack a safe person. You might

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Speaker 2: need a driver Wheelman type character. You're gonna need the

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Speaker 2: And then then occasionally, which I always think is fun

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Speaker 2: when this happens, is you need like that the rookie

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Speaker 2: I knew it this, I'm just you know, my dad

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Speaker 2: it too, And they're kind of the wild card. So

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Speaker 2: that's the first element. You need that team two, you

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Speaker 2: need the plan. Part of what the wonderful thrill of

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Speaker 2: a good heist movie is that the build up and

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Speaker 2: the build up is so good because you get the

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Speaker 2: either someone was wrong or it's one last yeah, whatever

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Speaker 2: So all of those elements are an act usually of

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Speaker 2: the movie and can almost stand on their own as

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Speaker 2: in terms of their arcs. Yeah, so, Ian, yes, what

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Speaker 3: Sure Before we get to that, I just want to

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Speaker 3: add to that list of like the elements that you listed.

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Speaker 3: I think oftentimes there's usually like a betrayal of some

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Speaker 3: kind of got to have a betrayal somebody who's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like revenge. Sometimes the betrayal spurs that revenge yea,

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Speaker 4: Now you see me Like that just does me to

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Speaker 3: Exactly they're doing it for the flex Yeah. And then

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Speaker 3: I love also when there's like a twist, which is

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Speaker 3: I love I love I love that like that switch up.

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Speaker 3: So the movies that I've seen, it's an extensive list,

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Speaker 3: but I'll just kind of give it to your rapid Fire,

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Speaker 1: You got to see him talk about the fuck us?

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Speaker 2: You got that, she got a fast, you got.

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Speaker 1: Your head is all the way up inside.

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Speaker 2: The way.

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Speaker 1: It's a classic classic click slick?

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Speaker 3: What's that mean? One of my favorites, Den of Thieves,

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Speaker 1: Much all filmed in my neighborhood. Sam, It's all Sam, Peter.

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Speaker 1: But I love it. Okay.

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Speaker 3: I ronan classic classic Italian job, the two thousand and

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Speaker 2: Okay, not the Michael Kine, Not the Michael Kine.

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Speaker 3: The remake Gone in sixty Seconds one of Nick Cage's

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Speaker 2: Also Peter, Yes, Juliana Jolie with Dreads, I believe.

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Speaker 4: And uh in Fast and Furious really good Fast five.

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Speaker 3: Yep, Baby Driver excellent excellent driving in that movie. It's

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Speaker 3: from twenty nineteen. That's a quite enjoyed you.

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Speaker 2: But I rewatched that recently and I really I liked

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Speaker 2: I would urge people who watched it the first time,

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Speaker 2: it's very much a you know, money is the root

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and then just to finish up all the

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Speaker 3: mission I possible movies. As you were saying, a lot

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Speaker 3: of spy thrillers have like heist elements in them. Ambu

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Speaker 3: Margot Robbie. That's kind of like a sleeper underrated heisty movie.

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Speaker 3: But that's one of my favorites. Widows.

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Speaker 3: Another Netflix Banger Red. Notice a lot of people think

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Speaker 3: the movie is stupid. I think it's fun. Brian Reynolds,

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Speaker 1: I like this. I like this controversial take there. Okay.

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Speaker 4: I also you also had two more left on here

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Speaker 3: And then Wrath of Man was a Jason stat and

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Speaker 3: one that's a more recent one too. That's a big

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Speaker 4: I have a Wrath of Man branded bag that they

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Speaker 1: That's a fun movie.

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Speaker 4: Okay, those are really good, Ian and I kind of

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Speaker 4: love because you also do have I would say, not glaring.

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Speaker 1: But as with heist movies, as with any genre, there

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Speaker 1: are many great movies. So I think we still have

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Speaker 4: Ones to recommend. Ye, Jason, do you want to start

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Speaker 4: or do you want me to throw one?

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Speaker 2: Sure, let's start. I'll start with my to me it

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Speaker 2: is the heist movie that kind of set the template. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's my favorite heist movie. Well, it's one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite heist movies, and I think it's a It's got

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Speaker 2: a sequence in it that is completely silent. That is,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can see Mission Impossible in it, you

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Speaker 2: can see heat in it, you can see a million

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Speaker 2: different heist movies in every element of this movie. It

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Speaker 2: is nineteen fifty six Refifi by Jules Dasson, Yes, and

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Speaker 2: it is, Oh my god, it is so good. It's

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Speaker 2: got all of those elements, the assembling, the team, the planning,

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Speaker 2: and then the heist itself. It's about this criminal mastermind, Tony,

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Speaker 2: supposedly uncrackable safe in this you know, very fortified jeweled store,

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Speaker 2: and it's just wonderful. And the thing I love about

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Speaker 2: there's like a there's a note of existent like dread

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Speaker 2: there's like all this style, there's this panache. It's so fun.

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Speaker 2: the black and white is gorgeous. Paris has never looked better.

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Speaker 2: And then the heist itself again is like a twenty

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Speaker 2: to thirty minute sequence that is completely silent. Check it out.

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Speaker 2: It's got everything, It's got everything. Yeah, Rosie, what about you?

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Speaker 1: Okay? I love that you started there.

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Speaker 4: I am going to go in a similar One of

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Speaker 4: next is nineteen sixty four by.

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Speaker 1: A guy called Jean Luke Goddard. Ever heard of him?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Hell, ever heard of?

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Speaker 3: Maybe you have?

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Speaker 1: Maybe you have, maybe happen.

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Speaker 1: He's famous, he's French, but he.

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Speaker 4: Made a movie that when I was a kid, was

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Speaker 4: like my one of my favorite movies called Band of

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Speaker 4: part or band of Outsiders, And.

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Speaker 1: It's basically about.

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Speaker 4: It's about two guys, friends and Arthur, and they basically

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Speaker 4: much they love cinema, and they both have an obsession

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Speaker 4: while they kind of spend their life romanticizing Westerns and

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Speaker 4: And is it a heist because they actually want to

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Speaker 4: I've got one more And then I'm going to stay

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this wasn't a bigger deal of a movie.

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Speaker 4: The showdown is unbelievable, all practical sets, all shot in

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Speaker 1: Maybe after this too? You have another one week? Okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go for a movie that I think was

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Speaker 4: ninety two's Sneakers, which guys Robert Redford, Dan Ackroy, Ben Kingsley,

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Speaker 4: Cast, And it's basically about the best way to pitch

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Speaker 1: And it is so good. It's so cool.

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Speaker 4: It feels very both ahead of its time but also

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Speaker 1: And yeah, that cast is crazy.

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Speaker 4: And it is also there's more people in it too,

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Speaker 1: So that's definitely a great one. I like The Way

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Speaker 2: Night, Absolutely love that. It's one of my absolute favorite

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Speaker 2: This is one of those movies that like takes two

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Speaker 2: And then here's my final one. So I think with

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Speaker 2: It's wish fulfilment, Like I wish I was a smart

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Speaker 2: It's about two brothers, and what I love about this

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Speaker 2: what happens from Mary, It's what happens from there is

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Speaker 4: I'm putting it out there for the fans. I'm putting

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of incredible.

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Speaker 1: It's a movie about male friendship.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: I just love talking about movies with you.

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Speaker 4: Guys, like, we got to do more more specif of it,

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Speaker 4: John Rex, because this is so fun.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a quick ad break and then and then

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Speaker 3: I'll wrap it up with just like some of my

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Speaker 3: favorite moments, and then love that a few like heist

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Speaker 3: films that aren't traditional ones but that I would like

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Speaker 3: throw into the mix, and then Okay, let's.

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Speaker 4: See that.

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Speaker 2: And we're back. Okay, let's talk about heist movies that

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Speaker 2: are not considered heist movies. What are some of There

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Speaker 2: are some really fun ones that we have here. You

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Speaker 2: have written down die Hard, which is absolutely a heist movie,

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Speaker 2: but not considered a heist movie. In fact, I think

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Speaker 2: all all the all the die Hards on some levels

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Speaker 2: and some kind of sure definitely for sure, but it's

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Speaker 2: all it's often a heist from the other side, like there's.

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Speaker 1: A gang inside.

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Speaker 2: The gang has very specific roles in the way you

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Speaker 2: love the mastermind, save cracker guy, the gun guy, like

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Speaker 2: et cetera. But unfortunately you're on the other side. You're

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Speaker 2: Infinity War, which absolutely has one of the fun.

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Speaker 3: Is basically a giant height the entire.

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Speaker 1: Love that one.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome. And then Aladdin, which yes, perfect absolutely.

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Speaker 4: Right blows my mind. In any other kinds of movies

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Speaker 4: like this that you immediately think of that you would say, Hey,

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Speaker 4: if I'm coming to the heist movie Sleepover, I'm bringing

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Speaker 4: something that's gonna throw you off. Aladdin is a great

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Speaker 4: call back because I think everyone just goes, oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: like absolutely, he's the lamp.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm. I would say those are the biggest ones, but

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Speaker 3: I think one other one that comes to mind, Well,

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Speaker 3: this kind of like ties into my next point, or

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Speaker 3: some like some of my favorite moments or twists from

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Speaker 3: from some of these movies. I'll say the Kremlin sequence

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Speaker 3: from Mission Possible, Ghosts Protocol. I think that's like peak heist,

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Speaker 3: like the disguises, the costumes, the technology. I love that

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Speaker 3: moment specifically from that movie. So I would say I

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Speaker 3: would throw that in the Ring as a movie that's

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Speaker 3: not really a heist movie, but it has a lot

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Speaker 3: of heisty elements, so I would throw ghost Protocol in there.

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Speaker 3: And then some of my other favorite moments are twists.

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Speaker 3: I know you're not a fan, Jason, but Den of Thieves,

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Speaker 3: I think the and this is going to be a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a spoiler if you haven't seen a movie,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry on.

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Speaker 4: If you do don't want spoilers for the Gerard Butler movie.

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Speaker 3: The twist or reveal at the end that Donnie was

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Speaker 3: actually the mastermind. I love that. I thought that was

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Speaker 3: and the first time I saw it, I didn't see

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Speaker 3: that coming, so they got me. I love that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, wait, you have just inspired me to pick to

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Speaker 4: recommend another movie and it is an Edward Norton movie. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm trying so hard to rake my braids.

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Speaker 1: The for the name of this.

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Speaker 4: Movie, but the it's oh, it's called the It's called

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Speaker 4: The Score, and it is about it's Angela Bassett, Marlon

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Speaker 4: Brando and Edward Norton and it basically is like a

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Speaker 4: one last heist movie, but it has a really fantastic

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Speaker 4: twist at the end. And it's directed by Frank cars.

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Speaker 4: That's one of those movies where I was like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, good job.

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Speaker 4: Actually kind of funny too, because Edward Noran has played

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Speaker 4: this kind of twist before multiple times. But yeah, The

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Speaker 4: Score is another really fun heist movie Underscene, not necessarily.

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Speaker 1: As classic as some of the ones we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: But in that kind of fun, enjoyable nineties era with

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Speaker 4: with a big twist. Anymore classic heist movie twists ian

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Speaker 4: that you think people should check out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you haven't seen the Oceans movies at

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Speaker 3: this point, what are you doing? But like all those

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Speaker 3: movies have like the like third act is always predicated

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Speaker 3: on like a big twist or the way they pulled

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Speaker 3: off the heist is not what actually happened or not

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Speaker 3: what you thought. So I think those are always great widows.

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Speaker 3: I think has a really nice twist at the end.

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Speaker 3: I won't spoil it because it's a big part of

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Speaker 3: the movie. The cast is incredible, it's just a great movie.

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Speaker 3: The twist at the end was really great. The betrayal

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Speaker 3: there is wrapped up in the twists, so that's really

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Speaker 3: good if you haven't seen and then, I mean it's

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Speaker 3: hard to talk about some of these twists without spoiling

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Speaker 3: you haven't seen that.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's move on to heist movies that aren't really

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Speaker 2: thought of as heist movies. I've got one with a

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Speaker 2: great twist that I think you must see by the

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Speaker 2: director Carl Franklin, who is kind of a legendary indie

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Speaker 2: tour And it's one false move from nineteen ninety two

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Speaker 2: and Independent crimes Er And it's really kind of like

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Speaker 2: after the heist is over, the criminals are escaping, they're

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Speaker 2: driving through you know, I believe it's like Arkansas or

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Speaker 2: something like that, somewhere in the kind of like the South,

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Speaker 2: and they're pulled over and it stars Bill Patston, Young Billy,

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Speaker 2: Bob Thornton, Yeah, Cinda Williams, and I won't there's a

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Speaker 2: twist that is incredible and I won't spoil it, but

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Speaker 2: don't wikipedia this because there is a secret that is

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Speaker 2: simmering under these characters and a relationship that comes to

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Speaker 2: the surface in a surprising way. And it's got a

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Speaker 2: lot of the elements of that kind of secondary category

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Speaker 2: I was talking about in heist movies, where it's like

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Speaker 2: tragedy and the life of crime and the bad things

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Speaker 2: that can happen, but it it arrives with this a

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Speaker 2: crude sense of drama from the view of this secret

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Speaker 2: that seems to like like a like a bubble coming

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Speaker 2: from the bottom of the ocean. Like it's almost like

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Speaker 2: you can see it coming, you can feel it coming,

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Speaker 2: and then when it emerges, it's incredible. One false move,

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Speaker 2: just see it. It's it's it's the movie that made

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Speaker 2: me aware that there was a thing called independent movies,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: It's also I will say, like this is like a

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Speaker 4: legitimately just fucking brutal movie.

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Speaker 1: So take brute, take your time.

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Speaker 4: Watch it when you're into watching the kind of movie

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Speaker 4: that you won't be able to stop thinking about. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I watched this one when I was on a crime tear,

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Speaker 4: probably during lockdown, and I remember just being totally blown

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Speaker 4: away and yeah, this is this is That's a great

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Speaker 4: poll Jason.

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Speaker 1: Also, guys, this will this list.

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Speaker 4: You will be able to find it on Yes, the box,

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Speaker 4: which does exist.

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Speaker 1: I just need to do a bad job of updating it.

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Speaker 1: Don't google it.

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Speaker 2: If anybody here wants to watch one False Move nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety two is one false Move Bye by the legendary

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Speaker 2: Cirl Franklin. Do not google it, because google it reveal

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Speaker 2: is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, well this was so fun. I love so much.

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Speaker 4: Guys, appreciate you joining us Ian and inspiring this super

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Speaker 4: fun combo.

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Speaker 1: What are your favorite heist movies? Make sure you join

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Speaker 1: our discord to tell us or hit us up on.

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Speaker 4: Social and recommend the movies that you think we should

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Speaker 4: be watching.

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Speaker 2: On the next episode of Extra Vision, we're diving into stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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