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Welcome in, everybody. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.640 We've got Patrick Noc Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chris Beam in 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.160 the back ready to take your phone call. In the 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.000 second segment eighty eight eight five five two two nine seven, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.000 I'm Kyle Yeomans. Glad you're with us. We welcome you 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:06.039 into another great edition of Talking Cowboys. We're doing it 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.679 yet again, Zack Baby. You know it's funny like you 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.640 get into the routine of week by week in the NFL, 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:16.560 so when you start week one on a Thursday night, 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.800 it just kerfuffles everything, don't You don't have any sort 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.800 of rhythm but you know what, We're in a rhythm. Now, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.039 we've got one week down, We're going into the second 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.800 week of normalcy, week three of the season. I feel 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.360 like we're starting to hit a groove here. 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.600 Just a white boy with rhythm over there, Like Baker Mayfield. 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:37.399 Played that music if you will? 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.240 Did you see him lock in last night? Absolutely? When 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.400 they cut to that camera shot and they were down 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.280 by six, I was like, oh, Texans are done. I 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:48.640 was like, and it's not because of Baker Mayfield. It 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:50.080 is just because of the look he was doing. 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:51.320 Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.200 I think what really what really did it was when 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.840 he scrambled and he ended up kind of banging his 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.440 knee on the turf a little bit, so he was down, 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.240 so for a quick second your thinking, holy crap, this 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:04.600 looks bad. And then he heard Gardner Johnson yapping at 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:07.760 him and he immediately pops up on some super saying 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.760 four type stuff in his face. And at that point 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.679 I was like, Oh, that's the Baker. You're going to 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:13.639 get the rest of this game. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.520 Yeah, So it doesn't When he went down, I thought 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.480 he had like broke his ankle. Yeah, because he was 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.040 it looked like it tisted like shoe fell off. 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.280 I think that's I think his shoe, so I don't 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:30.720 know if he was writhing, yeah, I think back on. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:33.400 So that's why it was such an instant change because 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.960 I thought the same thing at first. When he went down, 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:37.600 I was like, oh, no, he just broke his ankle. 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:39.960 And I said that audibly, and my wife like turned 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.840 around and was like did he And I was like, well, 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:47.960 now he's chirping like yelling at c J. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.480 Seen in a long time. I don't know much like you. 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:57.080 Kyle Baker is invited to every cooking because he is Baker's. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.200 Well, I think he he woke up yesterday feeling dangerous. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.280 The thones up. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.280 I said, we can carpool. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:07.120 Noise. 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.240 I love it. I love it all right. News and Notes, 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:11.799 we do have a couple of things to hit here 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.640 because we did not talk about it yesterday. But on Sunday, 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.320 following the Cowboys forty to thirty seven win over New York, 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.919 Cooper Bebe leaves the locker room on crutches with a 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.760 swollen ankle. I believe it was Nick Harris that said 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.799 it was the size of his head, and Nick's got 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:32.079 a big head, so big ankle. It was a high 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.760 ankle spraining out six to eight weeks. Now BB done 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.440 brock Hoffman and for the meantime. 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:38.880 That is correct. 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:43.560 So Cooper BB was officially moved to injured reserve on Monday. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.640 That did clear the path because the Cowboys were going 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.040 to have to make a roster move anyway, corresponding to 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:53.400 the signing of Jadeveon Clowney, which also became official on Monday. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:56.560 So it's just a clean swap there. But with that 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.480 high ankle sprain is how it's described I'm looking for 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:03.200 because Todd Archer had detail on it. He was saying, 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:07.160 it's not actually a high ankle sprain. Oh, I'll find 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:09.560 it in a moment. Nonetheless, that's going to thrust brock 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:13.440 Hoffman into the limelight as your starting center. This is 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.240 something that the Cowboys were working to prepare for the 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:19.080 potentiality of in training camp. That's why they gave brock 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.600 Kaufman so many lots at starting, well not starting sing 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.120 at center with the second team. Uh and you saw 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.920 him quit himself very well mostly in that game against 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.800 the Giants to close out. He did have the bad snap. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.040 So that's going to be a concern for me until 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.720 I see that. You know, he gets that snap down 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.040 and we're not talking about that. But outside of that, 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:45.839 there's no questioning the bully ball demeanor. Yeah, just absolute 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.200 Leviathan Aura of Brock a. 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.560 Word Rock Kaufman. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:52.760 To clarify on the BB injury, he does not have 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.360 a high ankle sprain, but he's dealing with a lateral 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.960 sprain and a fracture of a small bone in that foot. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.360 There, Okay, so same time take below the same time 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:02.760 still six to eight six. 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:03.920 That's why it's. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.960 Sixty eight weeks versus a high ankle sprain, which would 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:07.920 probably be a little less than six to eight. 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.960 That that also depends because are very for lack of 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:15.719 a better way to put it. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:18.239 So, and usually the bigger you are, the bigger Exactly, 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.960 the return table is right for a high ankle sprain. 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.480 I'm sure it's similar though with a with a fracture 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.840 like that. So good clarification there. So not a high 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.840 ankle sprain. That was really the big report across the league. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.240 But timeline is still the same, which puts him if 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:38.200 if he is absent the entire eight weeks, then he 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.640 would be eligible to return after the bye week, so 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.839 he would get that bye week as an actual additional 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:44.400 day of rest. 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:48.280 And what is the minimum given the injured reserve. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.920 Minimum of four that he's not coming back after five? Not, 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.279 not with this injury. So I would look on the 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.320 longer end of this spectrum. So yes, he qualifies to 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.320 return after four, and the prognosis is six to eight 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.480 given what we know, especially shouts out Todd Aultra for 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:07.520 that information, is probably closer to the eight week time. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:12.799 How much does Dallas trust brock Kauffman, because yesterday Brian 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.480 Schottenheimer talked about how Dak is comfortable with him. They 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.320 are comfortable with him as a play caller. It does 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.719 not change, And of course he's gonna say it's not 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.120 going to change. But I actually do believe him in 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.120 this case because he's been around the organization, because he's 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:31.160 been a Brian Schottenheimer guy, and they've put so much 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.279 of an emphasis on rotating those offensive lineman through training 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.800 camp for this purpose. Do you think they really do 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.680 trust brock Hoffman enough to keep this thing rolling in 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:40.320 the right direction. 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.640 I mean, they trusted brock Hoffman enough to give him 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.160 the start over Cooper bb early on last year. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.359 In fast year. Yes, and he was one of the 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.320 first re signings this year too. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.799 Schottenheim absolutely so they trust in him as a depth 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.159 piece on the O line. And this is exactly why 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:57.800 you resign a guy like Cooper Bby or resign a 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.760 guy like brock Hoffman in that like Patrick alluded to, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.159 he's a nasty dude. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:08.000 Nasty brock Hoffman is a physic old school football player 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.680 in a new school era. Okay, brock Hoffman could play 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.960 football in the sixties, he could play football in the seventies. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.520 I mean, this is the type of just lunch pale 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.200 demeanor that he has. He's blue collar, goes back to 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.800 his childhood and just his upbringing. He talked about it 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.400 kind of tongue in cheek. I remember last season we 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.360 were asking him about just why he's so vocal and 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.240 why he plays the game so viscerally, and he told 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.840 a story about him being a child Pop Warner and 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.680 he takes a hit and he starts crying and his 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:48.080 mom pulls him to the sideline and asks him, are 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.280 you a word that starts with a pee? And he 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.120 was a pansy and he was eight. No, it was 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:58.400 it had had five letters for you. I think we 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.160 all know as an eight year road. So brock Hoffman 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:07.080 is not he's not for the games. He wants to smoke. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.320 He's with the business. So the only concern I and 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.160 the Cowboys have, and Jerry Jones said this on one 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.520 five through the FEN this morning, the only concern is 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.720 he needs to make sure that the snaps are crisp 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:17.880 every single time. 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.120 That's my only because you saw at least one or 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.360 two bad snaps towards the end of the regulation last week. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.960 So you also saw brock Hoffman on at least one 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.240 or two of those plays, clutch plays that you know 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.600 from Dak to CD Dak Pickens. 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.240 He handled Dixter Lawrence pretty effectively. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.400 Can I throw out a scenario that I'm looking for? 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.040 Throw it out. 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.120 A couple of weeks you face a team called the 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.680 Green Bay Packers. Okay, there's a guy defense named Michaeh. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.319 Parsons who wasn't better heard of them necessarily. Michael Parsons 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.720 an edge only rusher. He can rush on the interior 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.199 as well. Yeah, I want to see brock Hoffman absolutely 0:08:56.240 --> 0:09:00.240 annihilate Micah Parsons on like a like a blads up 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.320 the middle. It's going to be a fight, yeah, and 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:07.040 whoever wins or whoever loses, because you know Micah and 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.679 the history between him and Brock at training camp, remember 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.559 DeMarcus Lawrence in the history that they had with brock Hoffman. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.000 Everybody has history the world brock Kaffman at training camp. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:21.040 So those defensive linemen aren't necessarily like ho hum about 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.480 having brock Kaffman in the middle of there because he 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.120 is a glass eater and he is a tough sob. 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:29.640 But you turn around and you've got Michah Parsons in 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.600 his return to AT and T Stadium. You know who's 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.360 gonna try and set the tongue. Brock Kaufman is gonna 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.080 try and set the tone, and Michael will probably we'll 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.079 both because they're gonna go after each other. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.360 Guys are gonna win on both sides. That it's going 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.720 to happen. Michael Parson will win in a few aspects 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.240 of the game, probably most of them, I guarantee you. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.280 But it'll be nice to have a guy like brock Hoffman. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.480 I just want that early. That's the only thing I'm 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.000 asking for. I'm asking for a lot acts. 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:55.120 Well. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.320 I think the beauty of it is is it goes 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.560 without saying, but let's see it anyway. Yes, there is 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.320 a drop off when you go from a starter to 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.800 a backup. That's just the science of sports. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:06.360 Okay. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.640 But the good news is is the drop off from 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.600 Cooper BB to brock Hoffman is not gargantuan, right, it's 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.080 it's not the Grand Canyon. 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:17.319 That's the good news. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:19.679 So you will get brock Hoffman as starter, and then 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.120 behind him, guess what, you got another glass eater to 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:23.160 use cow's term, TJ. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:29.400 Bass. He's a gamer, right, so ye taking that center 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:30.160 as well? Exactly. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.119 They were giving him Snapps the center in the preseason. 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:33.560 So that's your backup center. 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:36.040 Now, Yeah, you've you You're in. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:41.200 You've covered solid hands as far as your interior offensive 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.280 line depth is concerned. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.359 Do I no. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.440 Hate that Cooper bb is not on the field. I 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.280 hate it, But it's also true that when you look 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.600 at who's coming up behind him. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:58.520 Okay. I posted a video on Twitter of Isaiah's breakdown. 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.679 This before we knew Cooper Bbe was hurt long term, 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:04.320 and it was as it's a part of the the 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:07.960 CD lamb over the deep over that he ran and 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.400 the was completed. The only reason that play happened was 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:13.200 because of brock Hoffman. Hopman was rolling to the right 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:16.000 and then he peeled back to his left and immediately 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.440 found an edge rusher that at that point was free 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:20.480 and locked him up, pushed him to the side. Dak 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.040 was able to step up in the pocket and deliver 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:22.960 a strike to left. 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:25.800 I would be I am actually excited to see how 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:29.920 the run game either improves or decline, takes a step 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.599 back in terms of in terms of your center, in 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:34.480 terms of inside runs. 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:36.559 I'd be curious to. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.240 Get better or get better BB, get better b B. 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.599 But also let's see brock. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.880 Offman, ladies. 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:51.040 Is so keep it to the injury front. Got a 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:55.679 little bit better news, I should say Deron Bland. Speaking 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.120 to the status of Deron Bland, Schottenheimer was a little 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.320 bit more or not pessimistic. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:02.920 But he is a little bit more wait and see. 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:03.960 He's like uncommittable. 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.000 Yeah, yeah, he's a little more wait and see. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.280 Uh, it sounds hearing Schottenheimer sounds like there is a 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.280 better chance of Doron Bland. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.080 What did Stephen call it yesterday? A long putt from 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.959 play A long but playing week for those golfers out 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.400 week three, Week three, you know how it feels to 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.040 step up and try and hit along. 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.640 So when you hear that's the point. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.360 So when you hear Stephen on one five three to 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.720 five three of the Fan yesterday, you hear Schottenheimer talking 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.880 about Bland, you start to really feel. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.400 Like it's it's aiming at the Green Bay game. You 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:34.160 hear Jerry. 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:35.840 Jones on one to five three the Fan this morning 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:39.800 and he said, there's a you know, solid chance that 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:43.160 he takes the field against the Bears. I'm going to 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:47.200 go majority rules and I'm going to assume that Deron 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.600 Bland probably misses the game against the Bears. I think 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.120 that's just the wise decision, especially given how given the 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.400 magnitude of the game that immediately follows that Bears game. 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.760 I don't want to take any team for granted, I 0:12:58.920 --> 0:12:59.720 really really don't. 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:00.960 This just got to play it smart. 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.840 But I want him healthy for Green Bak not just that, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.800 if at all possible, I want him not just that. 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.600 You don't want to risk a setback that good cost 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.280 you Deron Bland in the back half of the season. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.280 And Deron may have had a set back last year, 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:16.920 So we don't want to We don't want to do 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.840 anything like that. Again, you have more was never confirmed 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:20.360 to set back. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.960 You have more quality offenses that are on the way, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.880 passing attacks, and you just don't want to repeat of 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.440 what happened in week two. Now keeping two, running back, 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.480 the cornerback room, injury front, some more good news. Jerry 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.640 Jones took one O five three the Fan that when 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.800 he was asked about the possibility of signing resigning Stefan Gilmore, 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.280 he said, quote unquote, help is on the way. Internally, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:45.040 he mentioned Bland, but he also mentioned savone Revel, and 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:49.000 he mentioned him in a great space. He basically intimated 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.319 largely that Revel is nearing his debut for the Cowboys. 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.599 Now Revel is on pup, so he still has to 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.000 sit out two more games. But if things can team 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.040 you as it sounds like they're going, which is in 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.960 the right direction, you could possibly see him as early 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.640 as week five, So you know, keep. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:09.760 An eye on that. If things continue to. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:15.440 Go progressively, well you could possibly see him on the 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:16.360 field for week five. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.280 Does that give you, guys any confidence at all? Having 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:20.160 not seen him? 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.880 Sure, he's based off of the tape from college that 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:29.280 I absolutely loved and also based off of the tape 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:33.400 that was shown by the Dallas secondary in week two, Yeah, 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.760 it does give me a little extra confidence just to 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.840 have a guy out there. I think the number for 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.160 Trayvon Diggs was he gave up four receptions for one 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.160 hundred and four yards and two touchdowns. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:43.000 I don't think that's good. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.440 That's not good, not great, just confirming. Yeah, but the 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:51.120 whole thought process around just bodies there makes me feel 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.520 better because I just need bodies back there. And if 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.200 you're telling me Bland and revel or back in the 0:14:56.240 --> 0:15:00.240 secondary by week five, and you know which. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.480 Best case scenario, best case scenario. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.000 But if that is the case, if Reveel does make 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:08.400 his Cowboys debut in week five, it's a great opportunity 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:13.320 for him to build confidence against a New York Jets offense. Right, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.040 So that's it's not like you're dropping him in against 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.200 the Eagles or Russell Wilson going for almost five hundred yards. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.600 You're dropping him in against the New York Jets offense 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.280 that is still trying to figure their way out, right, 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.920 So that's good. Lastly, on the injury front, additional good news. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.880 Can I add one more thing to that real quick. 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.600 You brought up they asked the question about Stephan Gilmour. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:34.040 They did. 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.680 There's a lot of talk around Steph on Gilmore because 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.400 he was already in the building. It was a different 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.120 defensive coordinator. Let's keep that there. There's there are circles 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.040 within the league that don't think he can run anymore. 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.200 That is exactly what I knew you were going to say. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:48.600 There are people that don't think he can run, and 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:55.000 have you okay to the litter? Really, yeah, that's that's 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.040 the concern. I think the Dallas I don't know. I 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.320 haven't heard this from Dallas circles. Let me just get 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.160 that very clear when it comes to Stefan Gilmore in 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.240 the league. They that's why he's still out there. I 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.160 think he'll still get signed because somebody's gonna need somebody 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.040 break classes in case of emergency sort of corner, and 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.560 he'd be good for that. He played decent for Minnesota 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:17.600 last year. It wasn't like he was a bad football player, 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.200 but dealing with the amount of injuries he did down 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.240 the stretch, I think it's it's taking a toll on 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:23.560 him and he's not the same. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:24.040 Players I have. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.600 I have definitely heard the same thing in league circles. 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.920 Now again, this is what we're hearing. We haven't seen 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.440 gilbour run in twenty twenty five, so we don't know. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:34.560 I would like to see I was going to say, 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.120 I'm that doesn't you know, make me put a strike 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.360 through his name. I would like to see him, I say, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.040 kick the tires. And if you get him out here in. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.880 Practice, well he's gonna be smart. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.160 Well he's he's going to be one of your more 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.400 cerebral guys. So I said, you bring them on, you 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.280 give him some practices, try, you know, give them some 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.120 game reps. If it turns out that those rumors in 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:59.240 the league circles are true, then now you know, at 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:00.720 least you don't play the what if game. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:02.520 It was so much on the line this season. 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:03.920 And do you even need to run if you're a 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.200 cornerback a little bit? 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.000 You know what happens if not a lot happens. You 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.600 know what happens if you don't, you turn around and 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:17.200 then you're chasing right. Lastly, some good news for Cavante 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.800 turpin uh He he left the game with a nick 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.720 injury after making a major impact against the Giants. They 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:24.679 had a neck brace on in the locker room. I 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.560 kind of pulled him to the side. I said, hey, Cavante, 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.720 how you feeling what's going on? He said, I'm good, Pat, 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.520 I'm good. And that seems to be holding true. Schottenheimer 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.960 said yesterday that the test results on Cavante Turpin's neck 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.320 came back mostly clean. And now you hear Jerry Jones 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.520 tw one O five three the fan basically kind of 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.160 echo wing what Stephen Jones said to the fan yesterday, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.880 which was that it's not a major concern at all, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.000 and there's a chance that Cavante Turpin could be on 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.560 the field this weekend against the barrass But even if 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.720 he is not. Even if he is not, that tells 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.359 you the lack of severity in that injury, the fact 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:58.960 that they think there's a good shot for him to 0:17:58.960 --> 0:17:59.960 be on the field a few days. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:03.240 Oh, you know what would be just poetic the best 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:08.520 returner in the game right now, returning a kick to 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:13.520 the house in the in the house, Devinster, the best 0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:17.920 return man of all time, don't Turpid? That would be sweet, Yeah, 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.280 that would be sweet. Did you see seventy eight percent 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.080 of kicks have been returned this year because of the 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.840 new rule that it went from like thirty three to 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.840 seventy seventy eight. That's impressive. 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.200 So what they wanted wanted the dynamic kickoff. 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:31.720 There's a conversation that we need to have at some 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:36.280 point about the dynamic kickoff and our coverage in that play. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.080 But maybe down the road, I don't want to. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:42.760 Think every team is struggling in that. Last night too, Yeah, 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:44.639 last night, both of the games last night there were 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:48.960 big returns, and as a team that has an electrifying returner, 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.080 I love it. I'm good with it. 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:52.360 Now. 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.120 Ten years down the road, when we don't have an 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:58.080 electric returner and these are still the rules, maybe I 0:18:58.119 --> 0:18:58.960 don't love it as much. 0:18:59.040 --> 0:18:59.800 I don't want to think that. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.320 Yeah cow Yeah, maybe turnp. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.439 It's live it now, Kyle, Sorry, where your feet are? SORRYO? 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:07.960 Sorry? You know where my feet are? 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:08.640 Or your feet? 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.399 In the middle of a Talking Tuesday, who give us 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.920 a call? Eight eight eight eight five five two two 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.840 nine seven We're back with Talking Tuesday. When we return 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.040 with more Talking Cowboys. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.000 Every day begins with a promise, a promise to work 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:28.000 hard and to build a future. 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I absolutely love it. 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.800 Chris being with the Talking Tuesday sounder, just getting in 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.640 the groove here. In week three of the NFL season, 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:55.880 and we're gonna start things off with our pal Mike 0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.199 in New York with that kind of sounder and that 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:00.400 type of intro. Mike, you're gonna have to give us 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:04.920 a banger of an energy, banger of a call right 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:06.160 off the top, Mike, what you got? 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:07.639 What's going on? 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:08.080 Guys. 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:10.920 I'm happy clown he's in the building. I think he's 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.800 gonna help us better with the better pass rush in 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:16.560 our secondary's got to be better at that Sunday was 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.000 a disaster. I'm like, come on, like, I understand when 0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:22.680 on that bland, but we need a little better coverage. 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:29.879 Arguably, yes, that's hey, well push Smith well put. So 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.440 he brought up Jadavian Clowney. You got the chance to 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:32.840 talk to him. 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.200 I did get a little bit shout out to Nicole 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.560 Hutcheson as well. She did a great interview one on 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.040 one with him, and then I did a sidebar thereafter. 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:44.560 But he gave a lot of insight into his thought 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.120 process number one, and his agent confirmed it to Todd 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:51.080 Archie yesterday. This was his first and primary destination that 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:53.800 he wanted to land in in twenty twenty five. And 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.359 then he basically said that you know, the Kenny Clark 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.920 variable played a huge part in his decision. He said, 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:03.160 the trade happened, and he saw that Kenny Clark was acquired, 0:23:03.320 --> 0:23:06.760 combined that with OSA and Solomon Thomas, and he said 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.560 that he immediately got on the phone with his agent 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.000 and said, Dallas is where I want to be. Put 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.119 in the call and see what you can do to 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.880 get me in Dallas. And that's his quote, and then 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:18.560 it just went from there. He and I kind of 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.560 talked off the cuff a little bit about his playing weight. 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.280 He said that I asked him about the question that 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.280 Nicole asked as far as eber Fleus's scheme, and he said, 0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.200 I go forward. That was his answer to Nicole Hutcheson. 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.119 He said, I go forward. They had me doing a 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.360 lot of coverage in Carolina. He didn't necessarily like that. 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.040 It's wild to me that at thirty one at the time, 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.800 asked to do a lot more coverage than he's ever done. 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.760 He still led the team with five and a half 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.960 sacks and in pressures and in and in. 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:48.920 Okay, yeah, fair, But. 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:52.280 The fact that he still got that mixing in coverage 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.960 that he didn't want to mix in, that's that's impressive 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.960 and off the cuff conversation, we touched him that some more. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.120 He told me that in order to be able to 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:02.679 do that coverage effectively, he dropped ten pounds, so from 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:05.000 two fifty five to two forty five to get that done. 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.480 He's at two forty five right now. He said that 0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:11.040 he expects and is ready to play against Chicago this weekend, 0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:13.480 but over the next couple weeks or so, he is 0:24:13.520 --> 0:24:15.600 looking to add that ten pounds of muscle back. 0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:16.040 Wow. 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.480 Because the conversation he had with eber Flus and Schottenheimer 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.600 in the courting process, which was another selling point, iber 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.520 Flues told him, you will rarely, if ever drop back. 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.280 We're gonna send you forward. We're gonna send you at 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.680 the passer, and he said his ears perked up. And 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:37.640 add that to the relationship with Schottenheimer, to Kenny Clark's edition, 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:39.320 and then I know a lot of people were saying, 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.720 he said, we had a good secondary. He visited after 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.800 the Eagles game, So keep that in mind. Okay, So 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.200 all things considered, not only is Clowney in the building, 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.399 he wanted to be in the building before the first 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.320 game was played this season. He wanted to be in 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.959 the building even more after the first game was played, 0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.119 and now he's just all smiles and he's ready to 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.000 get to work as early as this weekend. 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:01.760 I like it. 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.160 I like what he said in terms of us, because 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:05.639 somebody had ask him, like, you know, do you think 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.080 you're going to replicate the production of one Michael Parsons. 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.520 He goes, I'm not Michael Parsons like Ion Clowney. 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:12.760 You know. 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:14.679 I liked what he said there. I liked what he 0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.320 said about the facilities he's He's saying that we're kind 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.960 of spoiled here by you know, in comparison to the 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:21.760 other facility has been around Leave. He's been to a 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:22.440 lot of facilities. 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.240 It worry you that he's been with six teams now 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:26.359 in the last seven years. 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.800 To me, he comes off as a guy that is 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:34.000 very financially savvy, that wants to go somewhere and get 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.399 paid for what he's able to do. He's a renaissance 0:25:37.440 --> 0:25:41.520 man in my opinion, and I think this is putting 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:44.199 him in the best position to not only win, but 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:48.760 to get what he needs, and that's cash, and that's stats. 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:49.880 Don't know what I'm saying. 0:25:49.640 --> 0:25:52.480 To me, because at each of those stops he's produced. 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.040 If you could give me five and a half sacks 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:56.520 like he did last year, which I think is the 0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:58.640 low end, you give me five and a half sacks, 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:00.639 I think I'm fine because you're you're cool with that, 0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.200 and you sprinkle that with what you'll see from Neiland 0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:06.320 and Fowler, hopefully he takes a step forward. That's another 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:07.760 conversation we're going to have tomorrow. 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:09.439 And you're saying that the Panthers, yeah they were a 0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.639 really bad team, but he was not a bad player 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:11.879 on that. 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:14.520 He was a really really good player on a bad team. 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.560 But if that team was he played for the Ravens, 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.000 did he not a good team? He was one of 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.760 the better players on a good team. So yeah, just 0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:25.720 a really good player, Just a really good player. 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.000 And again, like he's said, still, like we're saying, and 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:30.960 I don't know that we've said it in such black 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:34.399 and white terms, but don't expect Michael Parsons production, really don't. 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.440 It's don't even expect Michael Parson's snap count. 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:39.320 Yeah, you won't see Michael Parkion. 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.320 Yeah, rotational guy that has a lot of abilities and 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:44.720 a bend that you're not getting from anybody else. 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.240 And somebody that's going to shorten those coverage windows. You 0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.720 want the secondary to improve, send more horses. 0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.640 He gives you another guy that can close, that can 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:55.919 close on the quarterback and then get get there and 0:26:55.960 --> 0:27:00.800 get home. Yeah, all right, let's go to Miguel and Stockton, Cali. Yeah, 0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:01.359 what's up me? 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.000 Hey guys, how you guys doing doing great? 0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:05.439 How are you? 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.480 I'm okay. I actually hang out with d'artavias mall from 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:10.840 the hood. 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.359 Sir, how'd you do it. 0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.160 Behind his ear or like a small lightsaber behind his ear? 0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.159 Yeah, he's on demon time, just like we hope you. 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.080 Clown will be. Hey. I like it. I like it. 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.000 So a couple of quick things. The first time caller. 0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.359 I listen to you guys every night at work. I 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.240 work graveyards, so it's rare that I actually catch the 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:35.840 show live. 0:27:36.000 --> 0:27:39.040 You're real but real. 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.400 Quick, like on turping. As soon as he got hit, 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.560 I was kind of scared I could tell someone's wrong. 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:47.160 I I texted my friend. I was terrified every time 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.200 he gets hit. So I'm glad to hear he's okay 0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.879 because we need him back. I do not like Jalen 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:54.520 Torbert almost kicks turns at all. 0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:56.080 That's just me. 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:03.400 Yeah, and hopefully we get something out of Ryan Flinnoy 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:07.040 because I don't really understand why he hasn't got a 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:10.640 shot yet Tobert. I mean, granted, he made that one 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.240 diving catch, which we really really needed, but that one 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.600 off the sideline. He needs to pull that in. And 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.520 Davonte Williams, what a surprise he's been. I used to 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.640 say a lot of bad things about him, but I'm 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:25.000 glad everything's working out. 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.000 I respect that. I respect that you. 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.399 I respect a person that can take account of bility 0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.960 absolutely and say you know what I was wrong. 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:34.119 Miguel is a real one. 0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:39.240 Same thing with Kenneth Murray. We talked a lot of 0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:42.720 crap about him after week one. He looked really lost 0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.520 out there, and then I noticed him right away yesterday 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.760 or on a Sunday, I should say, he looked. He 0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:52.240 was all over the place, probably had about ten tackles 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.240 or so, and that defense man. I don't know what's 0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:59.360 going on with that pass coverage. I was having fits 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:04.960 on all those Russell Wilson deep balls because as everybody said, yeah, yeah, 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:10.000 that Wandelle Robinson. I don't know how he was open 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:13.160 so often Malik Nighbors is a guy, so that one 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.440 I kind of understand. But Donovan Wilson has to get 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.640 back there. I don't know if it's a miscommunication on 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:20.520 the back end or what's going on, but we need 0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:25.160 to fix that. And hopefully next week, I hope there's 0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:29.760 some familiarity with Matt Eberflus and Ben Johnson. Hopefully we 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.560 can fix some of those problems because I do not 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:37.560 want to go one and two. And yeah, I mean 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:39.560 that's it for the most part. I like what I've 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:43.719 seen so far from Coach Shotty. Everything looks good. Hopefully 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.360 we see some Jayden Blue pretty soon. Shout out Samiles 0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:50.800 Sanders too for that touchdown. I mean, it doesn't really 0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:53.400 make up getting caught from behind, but it's a start. 0:29:55.400 --> 0:30:00.920 And yeah, man go Cowboys. Hopefully everything keeps looking up. 0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:03.760 And that's that's all I got for you, guys. 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.120 Appreciate you. Miguel, thank you for listening. And yeah, like 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.440 Patrice said, that's Miguel the analyst. He got it all 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:10.960 figured out. 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:14.960 Listen, and to deliver that information on a tire mind 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.360 because he works graveyard. 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:17.600 Yeah, Migil, you. 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.680 Woke up three If that's that call, what a dude him. 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:22.480 It goes a grinder. 0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:27.360 I want to start with the Flinoy to conversation. That's 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:28.240 where I want to start. 0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.280 Would you would you like to you activate? 0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:32.560 You activate Ryan Flinoy. 0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.440 He's on the Roster's on there, and in. 0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:38.080 The fourth quarter, when you desperately needed the most, you 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.760 are throwing critical passes, third and fourth down passes to 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:45.120 one jail In Tolbert. Granted he caught one, he dropped 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.560 one that puts you in a fourth down situation and 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.000 it made a good catch, no doubt, on fourth down 0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.479 when you needed it. My thing is, I don't know 0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:59.480 that I'm seeing enough in run run blocking and enough 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:02.240 in his routes. 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:03.920 I don't think blocking. 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:07.800 The blocking is rough and him getting open, just getting 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.400 separations kind of gripe that we've had since last season 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.680 when we didn't have one George Pickens and you're relying 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:19.000 on Jalen Tolbert out there to get get separated, help 0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.520 Ceedee Lamb in one way or another, and it just 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.960 wasn't happening. And I'm not seeing that progression. I'm not 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.360 seeing a guy that has changed his game from last 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.600 year to this year. It's and I don't want to 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.360 be disrespectful at all. I mean, I'm just calling it 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.320 like I see it, right and to me, at this point, 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.120 I would love to see what Ryan Fillinoy would do 0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.120 in Jalen Tolbert's. 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.680 Role right now, I agree and to that point, Unfortunately, Flinoy, 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.840 although signed from the predice squad to the active roster 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:54.240 this past weekend, only eleven offensive snaps yes game, only eleven. 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.560 The majority of his reps came on special teams. He 0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:58.400 had twenty one special team snaps. And we know that 0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.240 he can play ball on special teams, that's not in question. 0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.080 We also know that he can play ball on offense. 0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.520 We would just like to see Ryan Flinoyd get the 0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:11.000 opportunity get some of those those targets, especially in critical situations. 0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.040 And I think what really concerns me is in the 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:18.080 event Cavante Turpin can't play against the Bears, so he's 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.120 rooted out against the Bears. If you're going to keep 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:25.640 Tobert as one of your returners but also continue to 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:30.680 designate him as your WR three, with that workload, he's 0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.240 going to be so gassed from the returns that it 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.200 starts to further negatively impact what he's able to do 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.200 on offense right, So for me, something's got to give there. 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.440 And the good news is is you know what can give? Right, 0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.040 if you're gonna, if you're gonna insist on using Tobert 0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.160 as a returner in this game against the Bears, in 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:52.400 the event Cavanti Turpin can't go, then Flinoy needs to 0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.800 operate as w R three. 0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:54.640 That's the offset. 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:59.480 That's the offset and or First of all, I do 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.960 agree ouse out to Miles Sanders. He did have that 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.880 touchdown that was critical, helped impact the game. Cowboys, help 0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:10.840 Cowboys win. Javonte Williams, he's starting to really find his game. 0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.440 He was right there now. 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:17.240 But this, if Terping can't go, this is a good 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:21.200 opportunity for Jaydon Blue. So even if the knock on 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.360 Jay and Blue right now is even if the knock 0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.520 is that he's struggling to learn the playbook and he 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:27.960 needs to show more consistency there, I'll tell you what 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:28.600 he knows how. 0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.120 To return a kick. 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My 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:26.160 tagline is until we get up good to very good 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:29.080 offensive and defensive line at the same time. This is 0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.400 what we got. So I have I say that to 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.239 say that I am very pleased to see that they 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:37.680 built up both of them, and they're they're really building 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:38.799 up the defensive line. 0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:38.960 Now. 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:43.759 I'm very happy that we kept Topman, and I'm very 0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:47.560 glad that we got Clark and Clowney. And I know 0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:51.279 that I'm an old school football. Guy. I played in 0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.160 high school and I don't like running the ball. And 0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.759 I you know, it's been said for a few years, 0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:58.279 we're gonna run the ball, we gonna runn the ball. 0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:01.040 But this year I see it because I saw that 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.799 one play. I think it was the end of the 0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:07.400 third quarter, fourth quarter, I believe, and we were like 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.799 second and twenty two or something, the second twenty seven 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:14.439 and they ran the ball. So that's the commitment right there. 0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:19.480 And then the running back got like eighteen yards or something. 0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:21.879 I was like, Wow, now that's the commitment to run 0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:25.120 the ball. And I just I love it, man, I 0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:29.920 love it. We're just building, building, building building. What do 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:30.680 you guys think? 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.960 I completely agree, great call, Lester. They did stick to 0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:37.840 the run and it's a bit refreshing and to see 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.759 that whenever you were unsure about the running game going 0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.800 into it. And Javonte Williams, let me just say, has 0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:47.200 eased all of my quarries when it comes to absolutely 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.960 the run game. I mean, I believe in Javonte Williams 0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:53.400 that cuts the patients the acceleration. I think he's I 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.799 don't know if he's rookie year. Javonte Williams when he 0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.200 was setting the league on fire in Denver. I don't 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.359 know if he's there, but he's not far off through 0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.200 two games, and he looks legitimate. 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.640 I believe in Javonte. 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:06.799 Yes, okay, we're going gospel now. 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:10.320 No, that's actually w W shouts out to Jack injury. 0:38:10.920 --> 0:38:14.520 Well we'll get your based on Javonte Williams fell three 0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:17.160 yards short of his of one hundred yard rushing game. 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.319 And he was my X factor. Remember that was it 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:20.480 was hundred yards. 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.840 Thirty yards from image, one hundred and thirty. 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.560 Yards and horseshoes and hand grind No. 0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:28.440 One hundred and thirty yards from scrimmage, third rushing touchdown 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:32.040 and only his first two games averaged five point four 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.480 yards per tote on the ground and average five and 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:37.960 a half yards as a receiver out of the backfield. 0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:41.560 Given the Cowboys thirty three yards receiving on six targets. 0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:45.200 Davonte Williams is proving himself now that he's fully healthy, 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:48.000 proving himself to be one of the dogs on this offense. 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.759 And when I say dog, I mean you saw his 0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.080 bark on that on that thirty yard touchdown. Yeah, you 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.600 saw it because Tyler Smith is pulling. He didn't get 0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:01.120 his blocker clean. Blocker kind of gets through at that point. 0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:05.600 If you catch that still right there, you're like, Williams, Yeah, 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.040 this is a loss for one. You had the rights dead, 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.479 the rights, the vision, the patients, the physicality to show 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.840 shrug that guy off, the next guy off, and still 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:18.080 have to burst to go forward and get everything you 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.239 want in a running back outside of past pro was 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.720 displayed on that one play. 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.400 Absolutely, you gotta love it, and he's never been a 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:27.760 doubt in the coach's mindset. 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:27.960 No. 0:39:28.680 --> 0:39:32.000 Bran Schotneimer has been very very vocal about Johnson Williams 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.720 and his ability and their confidence in him. Since training camp. 0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:37.680 We didn't see it and we're like, why is it 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:38.239 out there? 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:39.000 Season? 0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:39.960 But what are we doing? 0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.200 We also said that going into it, it's like it's 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:45.839 tough to see running backs in camp every time. That's 0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.440 all the time. We say it every year, and everybody's. 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.400 Like, why is Jaden Blue not the starter? 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:55.000 It's like, for the reasons I'm not saying you, but 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:56.440 in general. 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.320 We need to give Jaden Blue twenty. 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.600 Five carries and there's that's fine, that can come at 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.719 some point in time, but not right now. I want 0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.600 to give that guy twenty five carries. 0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.000 He needs, absolutely, And early on in the game when 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:12.200 things weren't working out for you, obviously, their game plan 0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.640 going into it was, We're gonna run Jamonte Williams. We're 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.400 gonna run him against the front interior runs. 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:19.600 I didn't love it. 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.000 But and it wasn't working out necessarily and I wouldn't 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.560 against that defensive front. But they kept with it, and 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.600 he still started showing up in burst when he's running 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:31.960 to the outside, and then of course that amazing thirty 0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.560 hour touchdown down the middle. So they had faith in 0:40:34.640 --> 0:40:36.920 him that it was going to keep going as as 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.920 the game went along. Javontay Williams is an X factor, absolutely, 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.680 and they believed it since training camp and now people 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.640 are starting to catch up on it. I love it, man. 0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.879 I put this stat in Big Facts last week and 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.279 it came on Dalls Cowboys dot com, on Dallascaboys dot Com. 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.759 And there's another article coming out tomorrow. We'll see No, 0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:59.960 it'll happen more, allright, Williams. Javonte Williams joined Herschel Walker 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:04.000 and Alvin Blunt as the only three Cowboys with three 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.000 rushing touchdowns through their first two games with the franchise. 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:08.040 Is that good, Kyle? 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:08.640 Pretty good? 0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:10.280 Pretty good stuff? 0:41:10.360 --> 0:41:10.680 Wow? 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:11.839 Yeah, I like it. 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.120 And how many rushing touchdowns do we have? Totals at four? 0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:16.320 Four? 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:17.080 Yeah? 0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:19.400 Because one with mouth miles. Yeah so? 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.000 And how many do we have as a team all 0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:21.560 of last year? 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:21.839 Six? 0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:27.040 I'm thinking we're bad? Like John Wack, John are. 0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:29.400 Sorry? 0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.560 Ric o'dowdell, all right, Buddy, you're having fun in Carolina. 0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:33.640 He's not. 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:34.560 Yeah, he's not. 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:37.560 He's not having fun with Carolina. Sorry, Rico, good choice, Buddy. 0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:42.680 I still like Rika. Get out here, all right, Josh 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.360 in Chicago our final call on my. 0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:48.359 Talk. 0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:50.120 That was awesome. 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:51.440 That was what's up? 0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:52.880 Josh? 0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.879 So to quote Macho Man and Randy Savage, all these 0:41:55.920 --> 0:42:08.160 injuries unjustifiably in the position I ran, they're not being. 0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:11.480 Go ahead. 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:13.960 One of the things that I was kind of looking 0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:16.280 at during the game. I gotta say, I think Bookers 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:19.239 holding up really well. But in the running game, I 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.239 think they got to get that wrinkle with Ceede Lamb 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.200 on those end of the rounds again. You know, you 0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.080 see he kind of started slow, and I feel like 0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.759 when they get him involved early with those. It really 0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:29.480 just kind of opened him up in the passing game 0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.120 or I wanted to see more of that. Hopefully we'll 0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.640 see more of that this week, especially with Turpin, you know, 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:45.240 seeing how he progresses throughout the week. Son't you guys there? 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.319 I think I walked thround my office. I think I 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:47.879 cut out for. 0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:51.399 A seconde hesitation there. 0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.040 Yeah, it was cut out for a second there. But yeah, 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:56.759 that's the main thing I wanted to call him and say, 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.919 is I'm liking what's going on in the run game, 0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:00.920 but I think we got to get involved in it more. 0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:01.960 I think that will help out a bit. 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:03.239 But you'll have a great day. 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:05.320 Hopefully get in touch with you guys on Friday. 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.120 It sounds good. Appreciate your Josh in Chicago. 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.280 Chicago made punk over there, Josh in Chicago. 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.279 What the heck was that suit you did? 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:14.880 What was at the beginning of that called. 0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.399 The Voice of the Voiceless? What was that? 0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:26.600 I need you to understand. It's Randy Savage snap into 0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.799 a damn slim Jim Kyle a link. 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:36.160 Sayless. 0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:37.160 I have no idea. 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:38.960 We really have to get this guy off the speed 0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:40.600 on all things. 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.399 Mikyle, what if you pivoted to wrestling, like instead of 0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:44.560 watching football. 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.640 And yeah, no, if you. 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.200 Left Cowboys and just went into independent profession. 0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:51.840 I feel like I'd have the voice for it, Absolutely 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:52.239 I could. 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:57.040 I could get you would be excellent doing like the commentator. 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.319 You would be excellent being the commentator that actually gets 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.439 into the matches and being like a smug. 0:44:03.640 --> 0:44:05.880 Yeah, maybe the heel commentator. You would be in. 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:07.919 Wad be way bearry. 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.080 I'm gonna play this really quickly, quick second. This is 0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:24.120 now I hope macho man man just one of the 0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.920 greatest ever. All right, back to. 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:30.279 The call, Josh and Chicago saying he wants to get 0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.640 ce d Lamb involved in the run game a little 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.839 bit more. I think I'm good without it. 0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.919 No, I'm good without I see what he was trying 0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:38.399 to see. 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:43.120 No more babies. Well it's not even just you don't 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.279 need to, you know. Yeah, if you're running the ball 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.799 effectively for three four five yards yards of pop, why 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:50.440 put your guy in in harms? 0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:52.759 And and then it comes it comes to durability. You 0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.839 need ce d Lamb healthy for the entirety. 0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.200 One hundred plus yards in each of the first two games. 0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:00.600 So yeah, don't add additional hisp because when you start 0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.320 handing the ball off, you're basically giving linebackers carte blanche 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.359 to square him up right and get those hard hits 0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.680 that they otherwise wouldn't get a shot at if he's 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:16.480 running downfield against cornerbacks. So when it was needed last season, okay, 0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:18.520 this season, it's so not needed. 0:45:18.360 --> 0:45:21.360 Right now, play it smart exactly. Maybe later in the 0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.560 year if the run game sputters and you need some 0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:25.479 kind of jolt, I could see that, but I would 0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:27.880 rather use a guy like and not to put him 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.080 in harm's way either. But also just because of the speed, 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.400 the end a round with Cavante Turpin has shown him 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:36.839 to be far more effective, absolutely even than when CD 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:38.320 Lamb had the end rounds. 0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.280 Well, if you're trying to give it to Davante Williams 0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:42.040 twenty five times a game, sounds. If you're trying to 0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.200 give it to Miles Sanders another five or six times 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.840 a game, and we're trying to get Jaydon Blue involved 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:48.720 as well. If he gets active one of those games, 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:51.839 Cavante Turpin needs a carrier to come on, guys, how 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:52.960 many times are we running the ball? 0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:55.960 Really? Yeah? I if we're going to use that wide receiver, 0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:58.480 sweep that end a round. Give it to CD I mean, 0:45:58.480 --> 0:45:59.120 excuse me, give. 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.239 It to tell you who it's not. Handing the ball 0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.680 to Hunter Lipkey. I don't understand carries. 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.160 Again, they love them. 0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:10.799 I understand why things. I understand why they love them. 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:12.960 And I can't be more clear in the fact that 0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.239 I love the versatility of Hunter Lipkey. I love the 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.640 physicality of Hunter lip Key. I love that if you 0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:21.680 were utilizing him, I know what he would bring for you. 0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:28.280 My my gripe is that you're not using him. 0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.200 But he's on the game day roster. 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:33.320 He's there. I mean, he's taking special team snaps. 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:36.200 That's fine, absolutely, But you know what if now, if 0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:39.200 you're in the AKA, if you're in a situation where 0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:42.200 you may be without Cavante Turpin and you're not using 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.680 Hunter Lipkey on offense, you could use Jayden Blue as 0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.399 your returner. Because you just said, Okay, well Hunter gives 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.440 you something on special teams. Okay, well now you need 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:51.920 a special teams returner. 0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:52.960 You know what I mean. 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.399 So I'm I'm not saying, but I'm saying so again. 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.799 I can't be more I can't stress this more. My 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.600 gripe last week. This week has nothing to do with 0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:02.840 the ability of Hunter liftkey. 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:03.560 It is there. 0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.279 I agree with the contract extension and what he can 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.000 be for this team, but if you're choosing not to 0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:13.240 use him, then I need that spot to be utilized 0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:14.879 for somebody who can impact the game. 0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:17.080 I think it's kind of interesting how you, me and 0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:21.320 Isaiah all few this very differently. I like that Isaiah. 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.520 Isaiah looks at it as why did you sign him 0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:27.640 and why do you need to use him like in 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:29.919 a ball carrier, because they're not because they're not going 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:33.040 to Whereas I see it as I'm glad they signed him, 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:35.360 and I think what he does best as a football 0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:37.640 player is off the ball, is when he doesn't have 0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.520 the ball in his hands. I think he's a weapon 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:41.360 when he has the ball in his hands, but it's blocking. 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.719 His ability to be a lead blocker is tremendous. He's 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.040 prayed in goal line sets. That's why you use him 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:49.720 short yardage, goal line sets, and then on special teams 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.040 as well. So I like what he does without the 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.640 ball in his hands. And then you like you're saying, Okay, 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:59.160 I'm glad they paid him, but why aren't they not 0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.640 using why are they know? It's like if we all 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.760 see it in a very different way. I'm sure Josh, 0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:05.439 you're probably somewhere in there as well. 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.719 I just am not seeing it. Not seeing it, and 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:09.760 you paid him. You want to see him more involved 0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:11.480 in the offense. But then again, it's like they're they 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.360 have a plan going forward. I think he's going to 0:48:13.440 --> 0:48:15.920 get it's game two. I mean, I'm just we will 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:19.759 see him. But if he's not being utilized and he's 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:22.279 on the active roster, you're you're losing a spot there. 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:22.520 See. 0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:24.920 But I would argue he is being utilized. 0:48:24.600 --> 0:48:27.840 In special teams and in short yardage short yard it 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:30.600 gives you a benefit. I mean, how much has they 0:48:30.840 --> 0:48:33.560 have the Eagles won it because of their short yardage situation, 0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:38.440 cheating or not the cheating that's the first off everybody 0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:39.880 or the former. 0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:44.480 Yeah, when you when you look at their short yardage game, 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.080 how many games have they won because of that? 0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:46.799 Quite a bit? 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.160 Short yardage is a massive part of football, and I 0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:53.160 think he gives you elements there and elements on the 0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:55.640 special team side that you are using. He's just not 0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.280 getting touches and I don't I don't think his value 0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:00.000 comes from that, but they did pay him quite a 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:01.960 bit of money for a guy that only plays special 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:05.000 teams and to not get any touches. So that's where. 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:08.840 That's what you said, and I get it. That's it, Yeah, 0:49:08.880 --> 0:49:09.520 and I get it. 0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.040 But I think there's a k He. 0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:13.680 Has several abilities that I love for this team, just 0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:15.920 saying if you're not using him, I can point at 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:16.800 a couple of the guys. 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:17.359 That you could be using. 0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:20.560 We are also in week two, well very early, and 0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:24.359 we've only seen what the bag goes. You don't want 0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:25.719 to go all the way down to the bottom of 0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:26.280 the bag. 0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:27.600 But we can only speak to what we've seen or 0:49:27.640 --> 0:49:27.960 not seen. 0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:29.719 We've seen like a seven iron and an eight out. 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:33.680 Gotta go, all right, Patrick, no Sea Walker for Josh Rodriguez, 0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:35.880 for Chris Beam and the back of Kyle Yellman saying 0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.680 so long from Talking Cowboys. We'll see you tomorrow as 0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:41.680 we preview the Dallas defense versus the Chicago offense. 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.560 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:49:45.680 --> 0:49:47.520 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.