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Speaker 3: second segment eighty eight eight five five two two nine seven,
Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeomans. Glad you're with us. We welcome you
Speaker 3: into another great edition of Talking Cowboys. We're doing it
Speaker 3: yet again, Zack Baby. You know it's funny like you
Speaker 3: get into the routine of week by week in the NFL,
Speaker 3: so when you start week one on a Thursday night,
Speaker 3: it just kerfuffles everything, don't You don't have any sort
Speaker 3: of rhythm but you know what, We're in a rhythm. Now,
Speaker 3: we've got one week down, We're going into the second
Speaker 3: week of normalcy, week three of the season. I feel
Speaker 3: like we're starting to hit a groove here.
Speaker 5: Just a white boy with rhythm over there, Like Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: Played that music if you will?
Speaker 3: Did you see him lock in last night? Absolutely? When
Speaker 3: they cut to that camera shot and they were down
Speaker 3: by six, I was like, oh, Texans are done. I
Speaker 3: was like, and it's not because of Baker Mayfield. It
Speaker 3: is just because of the look he was doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6: I think what really what really did it was when
Speaker 6: he scrambled and he ended up kind of banging his
Speaker 6: knee on the turf a little bit, so he was down,
Speaker 6: so for a quick second your thinking, holy crap, this
Speaker 6: looks bad. And then he heard Gardner Johnson yapping at
Speaker 6: him and he immediately pops up on some super saying
Speaker 6: four type stuff in his face. And at that point
Speaker 6: I was like, Oh, that's the Baker. You're going to
Speaker 6: get the rest of this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it doesn't When he went down, I thought
Speaker 3: he had like broke his ankle. Yeah, because he was
Speaker 3: it looked like it tisted like shoe fell off.
Speaker 6: I think that's I think his shoe, so I don't
Speaker 6: know if he was writhing, yeah, I think back on.
Speaker 3: So that's why it was such an instant change because
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing at first. When he went down,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, no, he just broke his ankle.
Speaker 3: And I said that audibly, and my wife like turned
Speaker 3: around and was like did he And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: now he's chirping like yelling at c J.
Speaker 1: Seen in a long time. I don't know much like you.
Speaker 6: Kyle Baker is invited to every cooking because he is Baker's.
Speaker 5: Well, I think he he woke up yesterday feeling dangerous.
Speaker 1: The thones up.
Speaker 3: I said, we can carpool.
Speaker 1: Noise.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love it all right. News and Notes,
Speaker 3: we do have a couple of things to hit here
Speaker 3: because we did not talk about it yesterday. But on Sunday,
Speaker 3: following the Cowboys forty to thirty seven win over New York,
Speaker 3: Cooper Bebe leaves the locker room on crutches with a
Speaker 3: swollen ankle. I believe it was Nick Harris that said
Speaker 3: it was the size of his head, and Nick's got
Speaker 3: a big head, so big ankle. It was a high
Speaker 3: ankle spraining out six to eight weeks. Now BB done
Speaker 3: brock Hoffman and for the meantime.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 6: So Cooper BB was officially moved to injured reserve on Monday.
Speaker 6: That did clear the path because the Cowboys were going
Speaker 6: to have to make a roster move anyway, corresponding to
Speaker 6: the signing of Jadeveon Clowney, which also became official on Monday.
Speaker 6: So it's just a clean swap there. But with that
Speaker 6: high ankle sprain is how it's described I'm looking for
Speaker 6: because Todd Archer had detail on it. He was saying,
Speaker 6: it's not actually a high ankle sprain. Oh, I'll find
Speaker 6: it in a moment. Nonetheless, that's going to thrust brock
Speaker 6: Hoffman into the limelight as your starting center. This is
Speaker 6: something that the Cowboys were working to prepare for the
Speaker 6: potentiality of in training camp. That's why they gave brock
Speaker 6: Kaufman so many lots at starting, well not starting sing
Speaker 6: at center with the second team. Uh and you saw
Speaker 6: him quit himself very well mostly in that game against
Speaker 6: the Giants to close out. He did have the bad snap.
Speaker 6: So that's going to be a concern for me until
Speaker 6: I see that. You know, he gets that snap down
Speaker 6: and we're not talking about that. But outside of that,
Speaker 6: there's no questioning the bully ball demeanor. Yeah, just absolute
Speaker 6: Leviathan Aura of Brock a.
Speaker 3: Word Rock Kaufman.
Speaker 5: To clarify on the BB injury, he does not have
Speaker 5: a high ankle sprain, but he's dealing with a lateral
Speaker 5: sprain and a fracture of a small bone in that foot.
Speaker 3: There, Okay, so same time take below the same time
Speaker 3: still six to eight six.
Speaker 1: That's why it's.
Speaker 5: Sixty eight weeks versus a high ankle sprain, which would
Speaker 5: probably be a little less than six to eight.
Speaker 6: That that also depends because are very for lack of
Speaker 6: a better way to put it.
Speaker 3: So, and usually the bigger you are, the bigger Exactly,
Speaker 3: the return table is right for a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's similar though with a with a fracture
Speaker 3: like that. So good clarification there. So not a high
Speaker 3: ankle sprain. That was really the big report across the league.
Speaker 6: But timeline is still the same, which puts him if
Speaker 6: if he is absent the entire eight weeks, then he
Speaker 6: would be eligible to return after the bye week, so
Speaker 6: he would get that bye week as an actual additional
Speaker 6: day of rest.
Speaker 5: And what is the minimum given the injured reserve.
Speaker 6: Minimum of four that he's not coming back after five? Not,
Speaker 6: not with this injury. So I would look on the
Speaker 6: longer end of this spectrum. So yes, he qualifies to
Speaker 6: return after four, and the prognosis is six to eight
Speaker 6: given what we know, especially shouts out Todd Aultra for
Speaker 6: that information, is probably closer to the eight week time.
Speaker 3: How much does Dallas trust brock Kauffman, because yesterday Brian
Speaker 3: Schottenheimer talked about how Dak is comfortable with him. They
Speaker 3: are comfortable with him as a play caller. It does
Speaker 3: not change, And of course he's gonna say it's not
Speaker 3: going to change. But I actually do believe him in
Speaker 3: this case because he's been around the organization, because he's
Speaker 3: been a Brian Schottenheimer guy, and they've put so much
Speaker 3: of an emphasis on rotating those offensive lineman through training
Speaker 3: camp for this purpose. Do you think they really do
Speaker 3: trust brock Hoffman enough to keep this thing rolling in
Speaker 3: the right direction.
Speaker 5: I mean, they trusted brock Hoffman enough to give him
Speaker 5: the start over Cooper bb early on last year.
Speaker 3: In fast year. Yes, and he was one of the
Speaker 3: first re signings this year too.
Speaker 5: Schottenheim absolutely so they trust in him as a depth
Speaker 5: piece on the O line. And this is exactly why
Speaker 5: you resign a guy like Cooper Bby or resign a
Speaker 5: guy like brock Hoffman in that like Patrick alluded to,
Speaker 5: he's a nasty dude.
Speaker 6: Nasty brock Hoffman is a physic old school football player
Speaker 6: in a new school era. Okay, brock Hoffman could play
Speaker 6: football in the sixties, he could play football in the seventies.
Speaker 6: I mean, this is the type of just lunch pale
Speaker 6: demeanor that he has. He's blue collar, goes back to
Speaker 6: his childhood and just his upbringing. He talked about it
Speaker 6: kind of tongue in cheek. I remember last season we
Speaker 6: were asking him about just why he's so vocal and
Speaker 6: why he plays the game so viscerally, and he told
Speaker 6: a story about him being a child Pop Warner and
Speaker 6: he takes a hit and he starts crying and his
Speaker 6: mom pulls him to the sideline and asks him, are
Speaker 6: you a word that starts with a pee? And he
Speaker 6: was a pansy and he was eight. No, it was
Speaker 6: it had had five letters for you. I think we
Speaker 6: all know as an eight year road. So brock Hoffman
Speaker 6: is not he's not for the games. He wants to smoke.
Speaker 6: He's with the business. So the only concern I and
Speaker 6: the Cowboys have, and Jerry Jones said this on one
Speaker 6: five through the FEN this morning, the only concern is
Speaker 6: he needs to make sure that the snaps are crisp
Speaker 6: every single time.
Speaker 5: That's my only because you saw at least one or
Speaker 5: two bad snaps towards the end of the regulation last week.
Speaker 6: So you also saw brock Hoffman on at least one
Speaker 6: or two of those plays, clutch plays that you know
Speaker 6: from Dak to CD Dak Pickens.
Speaker 1: He handled Dixter Lawrence pretty effectively.
Speaker 3: Can I throw out a scenario that I'm looking for?
Speaker 1: Throw it out.
Speaker 3: A couple of weeks you face a team called the
Speaker 3: Green Bay Packers. Okay, there's a guy defense named Michaeh.
Speaker 3: Parsons who wasn't better heard of them necessarily. Michael Parsons
Speaker 3: an edge only rusher. He can rush on the interior
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, I want to see brock Hoffman absolutely
Speaker 3: annihilate Micah Parsons on like a like a blads up
Speaker 3: the middle. It's going to be a fight, yeah, and
Speaker 3: whoever wins or whoever loses, because you know Micah and
Speaker 3: the history between him and Brock at training camp, remember
Speaker 3: DeMarcus Lawrence in the history that they had with brock Hoffman.
Speaker 3: Everybody has history the world brock Kaffman at training camp.
Speaker 3: So those defensive linemen aren't necessarily like ho hum about
Speaker 3: having brock Kaffman in the middle of there because he
Speaker 3: is a glass eater and he is a tough sob.
Speaker 3: But you turn around and you've got Michah Parsons in
Speaker 3: his return to AT and T Stadium. You know who's
Speaker 3: gonna try and set the tongue. Brock Kaufman is gonna
Speaker 3: try and set the tone, and Michael will probably we'll
Speaker 3: both because they're gonna go after each other.
Speaker 5: Guys are gonna win on both sides. That it's going
Speaker 5: to happen. Michael Parson will win in a few aspects
Speaker 5: of the game, probably most of them, I guarantee you.
Speaker 5: But it'll be nice to have a guy like brock Hoffman.
Speaker 3: I just want that early. That's the only thing I'm
Speaker 3: asking for. I'm asking for a lot acts.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 6: I think the beauty of it is is it goes
Speaker 6: without saying, but let's see it anyway. Yes, there is
Speaker 6: a drop off when you go from a starter to
Speaker 6: a backup. That's just the science of sports.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: But the good news is is the drop off from
Speaker 6: Cooper BB to brock Hoffman is not gargantuan, right, it's
Speaker 6: it's not the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 1: That's the good news.
Speaker 6: So you will get brock Hoffman as starter, and then
Speaker 6: behind him, guess what, you got another glass eater to
Speaker 6: use cow's term, TJ.
Speaker 1: Bass. He's a gamer, right, so ye taking that center
Speaker 1: as well? Exactly.
Speaker 5: They were giving him Snapps the center in the preseason.
Speaker 3: So that's your backup center.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, you've you You're in.
Speaker 6: You've covered solid hands as far as your interior offensive
Speaker 6: line depth is concerned.
Speaker 3: Do I no.
Speaker 6: Hate that Cooper bb is not on the field. I
Speaker 6: hate it, But it's also true that when you look
Speaker 6: at who's coming up behind him.
Speaker 3: Okay. I posted a video on Twitter of Isaiah's breakdown.
Speaker 3: This before we knew Cooper Bbe was hurt long term,
Speaker 3: and it was as it's a part of the the
Speaker 3: CD lamb over the deep over that he ran and
Speaker 3: the was completed. The only reason that play happened was
Speaker 3: because of brock Hoffman. Hopman was rolling to the right
Speaker 3: and then he peeled back to his left and immediately
Speaker 3: found an edge rusher that at that point was free
Speaker 3: and locked him up, pushed him to the side. Dak
Speaker 3: was able to step up in the pocket and deliver
Speaker 3: a strike to left.
Speaker 5: I would be I am actually excited to see how
Speaker 5: the run game either improves or decline, takes a step
Speaker 5: back in terms of in terms of your center, in
Speaker 5: terms of inside runs.
Speaker 1: I'd be curious to.
Speaker 3: Get better or get better BB, get better b B.
Speaker 5: But also let's see brock.
Speaker 3: Offman, ladies.
Speaker 6: Is so keep it to the injury front. Got a
Speaker 6: little bit better news, I should say Deron Bland. Speaking
Speaker 6: to the status of Deron Bland, Schottenheimer was a little
Speaker 6: bit more or not pessimistic.
Speaker 1: But he is a little bit more wait and see.
Speaker 3: He's like uncommittable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's a little more wait and see.
Speaker 6: Uh, it sounds hearing Schottenheimer sounds like there is a
Speaker 6: better chance of Doron Bland.
Speaker 3: What did Stephen call it yesterday? A long putt from
Speaker 3: play A long but playing week for those golfers out
Speaker 3: week three, Week three, you know how it feels to
Speaker 3: step up and try and hit along.
Speaker 1: So when you hear that's the point.
Speaker 6: So when you hear Stephen on one five three to
Speaker 6: five three of the Fan yesterday, you hear Schottenheimer talking
Speaker 6: about Bland, you start to really feel.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's aiming at the Green Bay game. You
Speaker 1: hear Jerry.
Speaker 6: Jones on one to five three the Fan this morning
Speaker 6: and he said, there's a you know, solid chance that
Speaker 6: he takes the field against the Bears. I'm going to
Speaker 6: go majority rules and I'm going to assume that Deron
Speaker 6: Bland probably misses the game against the Bears. I think
Speaker 6: that's just the wise decision, especially given how given the
Speaker 6: magnitude of the game that immediately follows that Bears game.
Speaker 5: I don't want to take any team for granted, I
Speaker 5: really really don't.
Speaker 1: This just got to play it smart.
Speaker 5: But I want him healthy for Green Bak not just that,
Speaker 5: if at all possible, I want him not just that.
Speaker 6: You don't want to risk a setback that good cost
Speaker 6: you Deron Bland in the back half of the season.
Speaker 5: And Deron may have had a set back last year,
Speaker 5: So we don't want to We don't want to do
Speaker 5: anything like that. Again, you have more was never confirmed
Speaker 5: to set back.
Speaker 6: You have more quality offenses that are on the way,
Speaker 6: passing attacks, and you just don't want to repeat of
Speaker 6: what happened in week two. Now keeping two, running back,
Speaker 6: the cornerback room, injury front, some more good news. Jerry
Speaker 6: Jones took one O five three the Fan that when
Speaker 6: he was asked about the possibility of signing resigning Stefan Gilmore,
Speaker 6: he said, quote unquote, help is on the way. Internally,
Speaker 6: he mentioned Bland, but he also mentioned savone Revel, and
Speaker 6: he mentioned him in a great space. He basically intimated
Speaker 6: largely that Revel is nearing his debut for the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: Now Revel is on pup, so he still has to
Speaker 6: sit out two more games. But if things can team
Speaker 6: you as it sounds like they're going, which is in
Speaker 6: the right direction, you could possibly see him as early
Speaker 6: as week five, So you know, keep.
Speaker 1: An eye on that. If things continue to.
Speaker 6: Go progressively, well you could possibly see him on the
Speaker 6: field for week five.
Speaker 5: Does that give you, guys any confidence at all? Having
Speaker 5: not seen him?
Speaker 3: Sure, he's based off of the tape from college that
Speaker 3: I absolutely loved and also based off of the tape
Speaker 3: that was shown by the Dallas secondary in week two, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it does give me a little extra confidence just to
Speaker 3: have a guy out there. I think the number for
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs was he gave up four receptions for one
Speaker 3: hundred and four yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 5: I don't think that's good.
Speaker 3: That's not good, not great, just confirming. Yeah, but the
Speaker 3: whole thought process around just bodies there makes me feel
Speaker 3: better because I just need bodies back there. And if
Speaker 3: you're telling me Bland and revel or back in the
Speaker 3: secondary by week five, and you know which.
Speaker 1: Best case scenario, best case scenario.
Speaker 6: But if that is the case, if Reveel does make
Speaker 6: his Cowboys debut in week five, it's a great opportunity
Speaker 6: for him to build confidence against a New York Jets offense. Right,
Speaker 6: So that's it's not like you're dropping him in against
Speaker 6: the Eagles or Russell Wilson going for almost five hundred yards.
Speaker 6: You're dropping him in against the New York Jets offense
Speaker 6: that is still trying to figure their way out, right,
Speaker 6: So that's good. Lastly, on the injury front, additional good news.
Speaker 3: Can I add one more thing to that real quick.
Speaker 3: You brought up they asked the question about Stephan Gilmour.
Speaker 1: They did.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of talk around Steph on Gilmore because
Speaker 3: he was already in the building. It was a different
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. Let's keep that there. There's there are circles
Speaker 3: within the league that don't think he can run anymore.
Speaker 1: That is exactly what I knew you were going to say.
Speaker 3: There are people that don't think he can run, and
Speaker 3: have you okay to the litter? Really, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 3: the concern. I think the Dallas I don't know. I
Speaker 3: haven't heard this from Dallas circles. Let me just get
Speaker 3: that very clear when it comes to Stefan Gilmore in
Speaker 3: the league. They that's why he's still out there. I
Speaker 3: think he'll still get signed because somebody's gonna need somebody
Speaker 3: break classes in case of emergency sort of corner, and
Speaker 3: he'd be good for that. He played decent for Minnesota
Speaker 3: last year. It wasn't like he was a bad football player,
Speaker 3: but dealing with the amount of injuries he did down
Speaker 3: the stretch, I think it's it's taking a toll on
Speaker 3: him and he's not the same.
Speaker 1: Players I have.
Speaker 6: I have definitely heard the same thing in league circles.
Speaker 6: Now again, this is what we're hearing. We haven't seen
Speaker 6: gilbour run in twenty twenty five, so we don't know.
Speaker 6: I would like to see I was going to say,
Speaker 6: I'm that doesn't you know, make me put a strike
Speaker 6: through his name. I would like to see him, I say,
Speaker 6: kick the tires. And if you get him out here in.
Speaker 3: Practice, well he's gonna be smart.
Speaker 6: Well he's he's going to be one of your more
Speaker 6: cerebral guys. So I said, you bring them on, you
Speaker 6: give him some practices, try, you know, give them some
Speaker 6: game reps. If it turns out that those rumors in
Speaker 6: the league circles are true, then now you know, at
Speaker 6: least you don't play the what if game.
Speaker 1: It was so much on the line this season.
Speaker 5: And do you even need to run if you're a
Speaker 5: cornerback a little bit?
Speaker 6: You know what happens if not a lot happens. You
Speaker 6: know what happens if you don't, you turn around and
Speaker 6: then you're chasing right. Lastly, some good news for Cavante
Speaker 6: turpin uh He he left the game with a nick
Speaker 6: injury after making a major impact against the Giants. They
Speaker 6: had a neck brace on in the locker room. I
Speaker 6: kind of pulled him to the side. I said, hey, Cavante,
Speaker 6: how you feeling what's going on? He said, I'm good, Pat,
Speaker 6: I'm good. And that seems to be holding true. Schottenheimer
Speaker 6: said yesterday that the test results on Cavante Turpin's neck
Speaker 6: came back mostly clean. And now you hear Jerry Jones
Speaker 6: tw one O five three the fan basically kind of
Speaker 6: echo wing what Stephen Jones said to the fan yesterday,
Speaker 6: which was that it's not a major concern at all,
Speaker 6: and there's a chance that Cavante Turpin could be on
Speaker 6: the field this weekend against the barrass But even if
Speaker 6: he is not. Even if he is not, that tells
Speaker 6: you the lack of severity in that injury, the fact
Speaker 6: that they think there's a good shot for him to
Speaker 6: be on the field a few days.
Speaker 3: Oh, you know what would be just poetic the best
Speaker 3: returner in the game right now, returning a kick to
Speaker 3: the house in the in the house, Devinster, the best
Speaker 3: return man of all time, don't Turpid? That would be sweet, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would be sweet. Did you see seventy eight percent
Speaker 3: of kicks have been returned this year because of the
Speaker 3: new rule that it went from like thirty three to
Speaker 3: seventy seventy eight. That's impressive.
Speaker 1: So what they wanted wanted the dynamic kickoff.
Speaker 5: There's a conversation that we need to have at some
Speaker 5: point about the dynamic kickoff and our coverage in that play.
Speaker 5: But maybe down the road, I don't want to.
Speaker 3: Think every team is struggling in that. Last night too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: last night, both of the games last night there were
Speaker 3: big returns, and as a team that has an electrifying returner,
Speaker 3: I love it. I'm good with it.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: Ten years down the road, when we don't have an
Speaker 3: electric returner and these are still the rules, maybe I
Speaker 3: don't love it as much.
Speaker 1: I don't want to think that.
Speaker 3: Yeah cow Yeah, maybe turnp.
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Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 7: I'm happy clown he's in the building. I think he's
Speaker 7: gonna help us better with the better pass rush in
Speaker 7: our secondary's got to be better at that Sunday was
Speaker 7: a disaster. I'm like, come on, like, I understand when
Speaker 7: on that bland, but we need a little better coverage.
Speaker 3: Arguably, yes, that's hey, well push Smith well put. So
Speaker 3: he brought up Jadavian Clowney. You got the chance to
Speaker 3: talk to him.
Speaker 6: I did get a little bit shout out to Nicole
Speaker 6: Hutcheson as well. She did a great interview one on
Speaker 6: one with him, and then I did a sidebar thereafter.
Speaker 6: But he gave a lot of insight into his thought
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Speaker 6: Archie yesterday. This was his first and primary destination that
Speaker 6: he wanted to land in in twenty twenty five. And
Speaker 6: then he basically said that you know, the Kenny Clark
Speaker 6: variable played a huge part in his decision. He said,
Speaker 6: the trade happened, and he saw that Kenny Clark was acquired,
Speaker 6: combined that with OSA and Solomon Thomas, and he said
Speaker 6: that he immediately got on the phone with his agent
Speaker 6: and said, Dallas is where I want to be. Put
Speaker 6: in the call and see what you can do to
Speaker 6: get me in Dallas. And that's his quote, and then
Speaker 6: it just went from there. He and I kind of
Speaker 6: talked off the cuff a little bit about his playing weight.
Speaker 6: He said that I asked him about the question that
Speaker 6: Nicole asked as far as eber Fleus's scheme, and he said,
Speaker 6: I go forward. That was his answer to Nicole Hutcheson.
Speaker 6: He said, I go forward. They had me doing a
Speaker 6: lot of coverage in Carolina. He didn't necessarily like that.
Speaker 6: It's wild to me that at thirty one at the time,
Speaker 6: asked to do a lot more coverage than he's ever done.
Speaker 6: He still led the team with five and a half
Speaker 6: sacks and in pressures and in and in.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, fair, But.
Speaker 6: The fact that he still got that mixing in coverage
Speaker 6: that he didn't want to mix in, that's that's impressive
Speaker 6: and off the cuff conversation, we touched him that some more.
Speaker 6: He told me that in order to be able to
Speaker 6: do that coverage effectively, he dropped ten pounds, so from
Speaker 6: two fifty five to two forty five to get that done.
Speaker 6: He's at two forty five right now. He said that
Speaker 6: he expects and is ready to play against Chicago this weekend,
Speaker 6: but over the next couple weeks or so, he is
Speaker 6: looking to add that ten pounds of muscle back.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: Because the conversation he had with eber Flus and Schottenheimer
Speaker 6: in the courting process, which was another selling point, iber
Speaker 6: Flues told him, you will rarely, if ever drop back.
Speaker 6: We're gonna send you forward. We're gonna send you at
Speaker 6: the passer, and he said his ears perked up. And
Speaker 6: add that to the relationship with Schottenheimer, to Kenny Clark's edition,
Speaker 6: and then I know a lot of people were saying,
Speaker 6: he said, we had a good secondary. He visited after
Speaker 6: the Eagles game, So keep that in mind. Okay, So
Speaker 6: all things considered, not only is Clowney in the building,
Speaker 6: he wanted to be in the building before the first
Speaker 6: game was played this season. He wanted to be in
Speaker 6: the building even more after the first game was played,
Speaker 6: and now he's just all smiles and he's ready to
Speaker 6: get to work as early as this weekend.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 5: I like what he said in terms of us, because
Speaker 5: somebody had ask him, like, you know, do you think
Speaker 5: you're going to replicate the production of one Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5: He goes, I'm not Michael Parsons like Ion Clowney.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: I liked what he said there. I liked what he
Speaker 5: said about the facilities he's He's saying that we're kind
Speaker 5: of spoiled here by you know, in comparison to the
Speaker 5: other facility has been around Leave. He's been to a
Speaker 5: lot of facilities.
Speaker 3: It worry you that he's been with six teams now
Speaker 3: in the last seven years.
Speaker 5: To me, he comes off as a guy that is
Speaker 5: very financially savvy, that wants to go somewhere and get
Speaker 5: paid for what he's able to do. He's a renaissance
Speaker 5: man in my opinion, and I think this is putting
Speaker 5: him in the best position to not only win, but
Speaker 5: to get what he needs, and that's cash, and that's stats.
Speaker 5: Don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: To me, because at each of those stops he's produced.
Speaker 3: If you could give me five and a half sacks
Speaker 3: like he did last year, which I think is the
Speaker 3: low end, you give me five and a half sacks,
Speaker 3: I think I'm fine because you're you're cool with that,
Speaker 3: and you sprinkle that with what you'll see from Neiland
Speaker 3: and Fowler, hopefully he takes a step forward. That's another
Speaker 3: conversation we're going to have tomorrow.
Speaker 5: And you're saying that the Panthers, yeah they were a
Speaker 5: really bad team, but he was not a bad player
Speaker 5: on that.
Speaker 1: He was a really really good player on a bad team.
Speaker 6: But if that team was he played for the Ravens,
Speaker 6: did he not a good team? He was one of
Speaker 6: the better players on a good team. So yeah, just
Speaker 6: a really good player, Just a really good player.
Speaker 5: And again, like he's said, still, like we're saying, and
Speaker 5: I don't know that we've said it in such black
Speaker 5: and white terms, but don't expect Michael Parsons production, really don't.
Speaker 6: It's don't even expect Michael Parson's snap count.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you won't see Michael Parkion.
Speaker 5: Yeah, rotational guy that has a lot of abilities and
Speaker 5: a bend that you're not getting from anybody else.
Speaker 6: And somebody that's going to shorten those coverage windows. You
Speaker 6: want the secondary to improve, send more horses.
Speaker 3: He gives you another guy that can close, that can
Speaker 3: close on the quarterback and then get get there and
Speaker 3: get home. Yeah, all right, let's go to Miguel and Stockton, Cali. Yeah,
Speaker 3: what's up me?
Speaker 9: Hey guys, how you guys doing doing great?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 9: I'm okay. I actually hang out with d'artavias mall from
Speaker 9: the hood.
Speaker 3: Sir, how'd you do it.
Speaker 1: Behind his ear or like a small lightsaber behind his ear?
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's on demon time, just like we hope you.
Speaker 3: Clown will be. Hey. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 9: So a couple of quick things. The first time caller.
Speaker 9: I listen to you guys every night at work. I
Speaker 9: work graveyards, so it's rare that I actually catch the
Speaker 9: show live.
Speaker 4: You're real but real.
Speaker 9: Quick, like on turping. As soon as he got hit,
Speaker 9: I was kind of scared I could tell someone's wrong.
Speaker 9: I I texted my friend. I was terrified every time
Speaker 9: he gets hit. So I'm glad to hear he's okay
Speaker 9: because we need him back. I do not like Jalen
Speaker 9: Torbert almost kicks turns at all.
Speaker 7: That's just me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and hopefully we get something out of Ryan Flinnoy
Speaker 9: because I don't really understand why he hasn't got a
Speaker 9: shot yet Tobert. I mean, granted, he made that one
Speaker 9: diving catch, which we really really needed, but that one
Speaker 9: off the sideline. He needs to pull that in. And
Speaker 9: Davonte Williams, what a surprise he's been. I used to
Speaker 9: say a lot of bad things about him, but I'm
Speaker 9: glad everything's working out.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect that you.
Speaker 6: I respect a person that can take account of bility
Speaker 6: absolutely and say you know what I was wrong.
Speaker 1: Miguel is a real one.
Speaker 9: Same thing with Kenneth Murray. We talked a lot of
Speaker 9: crap about him after week one. He looked really lost
Speaker 9: out there, and then I noticed him right away yesterday
Speaker 9: or on a Sunday, I should say, he looked. He
Speaker 9: was all over the place, probably had about ten tackles
Speaker 9: or so, and that defense man. I don't know what's
Speaker 9: going on with that pass coverage. I was having fits
Speaker 9: on all those Russell Wilson deep balls because as everybody said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: that Wandelle Robinson. I don't know how he was open
Speaker 9: so often Malik Nighbors is a guy, so that one
Speaker 9: I kind of understand. But Donovan Wilson has to get
Speaker 9: back there. I don't know if it's a miscommunication on
Speaker 9: the back end or what's going on, but we need
Speaker 9: to fix that. And hopefully next week, I hope there's
Speaker 9: some familiarity with Matt Eberflus and Ben Johnson. Hopefully we
Speaker 9: can fix some of those problems because I do not
Speaker 9: want to go one and two. And yeah, I mean
Speaker 9: that's it for the most part. I like what I've
Speaker 9: seen so far from Coach Shotty. Everything looks good. Hopefully
Speaker 9: we see some Jayden Blue pretty soon. Shout out Samiles
Speaker 9: Sanders too for that touchdown. I mean, it doesn't really
Speaker 9: make up getting caught from behind, but it's a start.
Speaker 9: And yeah, man go Cowboys. Hopefully everything keeps looking up.
Speaker 9: And that's that's all I got for you, guys.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you. Miguel, thank you for listening. And yeah, like
Speaker 3: Patrice said, that's Miguel the analyst. He got it all
Speaker 3: figured out.
Speaker 6: Listen, and to deliver that information on a tire mind
Speaker 6: because he works graveyard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Migil, you.
Speaker 3: Woke up three If that's that call, what a dude him.
Speaker 1: It goes a grinder.
Speaker 3: I want to start with the Flinoy to conversation. That's
Speaker 3: where I want to start.
Speaker 1: Would you would you like to you activate?
Speaker 5: You activate Ryan Flinoy.
Speaker 3: He's on the Roster's on there, and in.
Speaker 5: The fourth quarter, when you desperately needed the most, you
Speaker 5: are throwing critical passes, third and fourth down passes to
Speaker 5: one jail In Tolbert. Granted he caught one, he dropped
Speaker 5: one that puts you in a fourth down situation and
Speaker 5: it made a good catch, no doubt, on fourth down
Speaker 5: when you needed it. My thing is, I don't know
Speaker 5: that I'm seeing enough in run run blocking and enough
Speaker 5: in his routes.
Speaker 3: I don't think blocking.
Speaker 5: The blocking is rough and him getting open, just getting
Speaker 5: separations kind of gripe that we've had since last season
Speaker 5: when we didn't have one George Pickens and you're relying
Speaker 5: on Jalen Tolbert out there to get get separated, help
Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb in one way or another, and it just
Speaker 5: wasn't happening. And I'm not seeing that progression. I'm not
Speaker 5: seeing a guy that has changed his game from last
Speaker 5: year to this year. It's and I don't want to
Speaker 5: be disrespectful at all. I mean, I'm just calling it
Speaker 5: like I see it, right and to me, at this point,
Speaker 5: I would love to see what Ryan Fillinoy would do
Speaker 5: in Jalen Tolbert's.
Speaker 6: Role right now, I agree and to that point, Unfortunately, Flinoy,
Speaker 6: although signed from the predice squad to the active roster
Speaker 6: this past weekend, only eleven offensive snaps yes game, only eleven.
Speaker 6: The majority of his reps came on special teams. He
Speaker 6: had twenty one special team snaps. And we know that
Speaker 6: he can play ball on special teams, that's not in question.
Speaker 6: We also know that he can play ball on offense.
Speaker 6: We would just like to see Ryan Flinoyd get the
Speaker 6: opportunity get some of those those targets, especially in critical situations.
Speaker 6: And I think what really concerns me is in the
Speaker 6: event Cavante Turpin can't play against the Bears, so he's
Speaker 6: rooted out against the Bears. If you're going to keep
Speaker 6: Tobert as one of your returners but also continue to
Speaker 6: designate him as your WR three, with that workload, he's
Speaker 6: going to be so gassed from the returns that it
Speaker 6: starts to further negatively impact what he's able to do
Speaker 6: on offense right, So for me, something's got to give there.
Speaker 6: And the good news is is you know what can give? Right,
Speaker 6: if you're gonna, if you're gonna insist on using Tobert
Speaker 6: as a returner in this game against the Bears, in
Speaker 6: the event Cavanti Turpin can't go, then Flinoy needs to
Speaker 6: operate as w R three.
Speaker 1: That's the offset.
Speaker 6: That's the offset and or First of all, I do
Speaker 6: agree ouse out to Miles Sanders. He did have that
Speaker 6: touchdown that was critical, helped impact the game. Cowboys, help
Speaker 6: Cowboys win. Javonte Williams, he's starting to really find his game.
Speaker 3: He was right there now.
Speaker 6: But this, if Terping can't go, this is a good
Speaker 6: opportunity for Jaydon Blue. So even if the knock on
Speaker 6: Jay and Blue right now is even if the knock
Speaker 6: is that he's struggling to learn the playbook and he
Speaker 6: needs to show more consistency there, I'll tell you what
Speaker 6: he knows how.
Speaker 1: To return a kick. I guess there's no playbook to
Speaker 1: return in a kick.
Speaker 6: So run fast, yeah, hit a whole ball, run fast,
Speaker 6: avoid guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, all right, we can take our second break
Speaker 3: when we come back we've got two more callers Lester
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Speaker 3: it over to Lester in Minnesota. What's going on?
Speaker 4: Lester?
Speaker 10: Hey, good morning guys.
Speaker 3: Good morning morning buddy.
Speaker 10: My tagline I call in a storyline on line. My
Speaker 10: tagline is until we get up good to very good
Speaker 10: offensive and defensive line at the same time. This is
Speaker 10: what we got. So I have I say that to
Speaker 10: say that I am very pleased to see that they
Speaker 10: built up both of them, and they're they're really building
Speaker 10: up the defensive line.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 10: I'm very happy that we kept Topman, and I'm very
Speaker 10: glad that we got Clark and Clowney. And I know
Speaker 10: that I'm an old school football. Guy. I played in
Speaker 10: high school and I don't like running the ball. And
Speaker 10: I you know, it's been said for a few years,
Speaker 10: we're gonna run the ball, we gonna runn the ball.
Speaker 10: But this year I see it because I saw that
Speaker 10: one play. I think it was the end of the
Speaker 10: third quarter, fourth quarter, I believe, and we were like
Speaker 10: second and twenty two or something, the second twenty seven
Speaker 10: and they ran the ball. So that's the commitment right there.
Speaker 10: And then the running back got like eighteen yards or something.
Speaker 10: I was like, Wow, now that's the commitment to run
Speaker 10: the ball. And I just I love it, man, I
Speaker 10: love it. We're just building, building, building building. What do
Speaker 10: you guys think?
Speaker 3: I completely agree, great call, Lester. They did stick to
Speaker 3: the run and it's a bit refreshing and to see
Speaker 3: that whenever you were unsure about the running game going
Speaker 3: into it. And Javonte Williams, let me just say, has
Speaker 3: eased all of my quarries when it comes to absolutely
Speaker 3: the run game. I mean, I believe in Javonte Williams
Speaker 3: that cuts the patients the acceleration. I think he's I
Speaker 3: don't know if he's rookie year. Javonte Williams when he
Speaker 3: was setting the league on fire in Denver. I don't
Speaker 3: know if he's there, but he's not far off through
Speaker 3: two games, and he looks legitimate.
Speaker 1: I believe in Javonte.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, we're going gospel now.
Speaker 1: No, that's actually w W shouts out to Jack injury.
Speaker 6: Well we'll get your based on Javonte Williams fell three
Speaker 6: yards short of his of one hundred yard rushing game.
Speaker 5: And he was my X factor. Remember that was it
Speaker 5: was hundred yards.
Speaker 1: Thirty yards from image, one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 3: Yards and horseshoes and hand grind No.
Speaker 6: One hundred and thirty yards from scrimmage, third rushing touchdown
Speaker 6: and only his first two games averaged five point four
Speaker 6: yards per tote on the ground and average five and
Speaker 6: a half yards as a receiver out of the backfield.
Speaker 6: Given the Cowboys thirty three yards receiving on six targets.
Speaker 6: Davonte Williams is proving himself now that he's fully healthy,
Speaker 6: proving himself to be one of the dogs on this offense.
Speaker 6: And when I say dog, I mean you saw his
Speaker 6: bark on that on that thirty yard touchdown. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: saw it because Tyler Smith is pulling. He didn't get
Speaker 6: his blocker clean. Blocker kind of gets through at that point.
Speaker 6: If you catch that still right there, you're like, Williams, Yeah,
Speaker 6: this is a loss for one. You had the rights dead,
Speaker 6: the rights, the vision, the patients, the physicality to show
Speaker 6: shrug that guy off, the next guy off, and still
Speaker 6: have to burst to go forward and get everything you
Speaker 6: want in a running back outside of past pro was
Speaker 6: displayed on that one play.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, you gotta love it, and he's never been a
Speaker 5: doubt in the coach's mindset.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 5: Bran Schotneimer has been very very vocal about Johnson Williams
Speaker 5: and his ability and their confidence in him. Since training camp.
Speaker 5: We didn't see it and we're like, why is it
Speaker 5: out there?
Speaker 4: Season?
Speaker 1: But what are we doing?
Speaker 3: We also said that going into it, it's like it's
Speaker 3: tough to see running backs in camp every time. That's
Speaker 3: all the time. We say it every year, and everybody's.
Speaker 1: Like, why is Jaden Blue not the starter?
Speaker 3: It's like, for the reasons I'm not saying you, but
Speaker 3: in general.
Speaker 1: We need to give Jaden Blue twenty.
Speaker 3: Five carries and there's that's fine, that can come at
Speaker 3: some point in time, but not right now. I want
Speaker 3: to give that guy twenty five carries.
Speaker 5: He needs, absolutely, And early on in the game when
Speaker 5: things weren't working out for you, obviously, their game plan
Speaker 5: going into it was, We're gonna run Jamonte Williams. We're
Speaker 5: gonna run him against the front interior runs.
Speaker 3: I didn't love it.
Speaker 5: But and it wasn't working out necessarily and I wouldn't
Speaker 5: against that defensive front. But they kept with it, and
Speaker 5: he still started showing up in burst when he's running
Speaker 5: to the outside, and then of course that amazing thirty
Speaker 5: hour touchdown down the middle. So they had faith in
Speaker 5: him that it was going to keep going as as
Speaker 5: the game went along. Javontay Williams is an X factor, absolutely,
Speaker 5: and they believed it since training camp and now people
Speaker 5: are starting to catch up on it. I love it, man.
Speaker 3: I put this stat in Big Facts last week and
Speaker 3: it came on Dalls Cowboys dot com, on Dallascaboys dot Com.
Speaker 3: And there's another article coming out tomorrow. We'll see No,
Speaker 3: it'll happen more, allright, Williams. Javonte Williams joined Herschel Walker
Speaker 3: and Alvin Blunt as the only three Cowboys with three
Speaker 3: rushing touchdowns through their first two games with the franchise.
Speaker 1: Is that good, Kyle?
Speaker 4: Pretty good?
Speaker 3: Pretty good stuff?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 5: And how many rushing touchdowns do we have? Totals at four?
Speaker 4: Four?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Because one with mouth miles. Yeah so?
Speaker 5: And how many do we have as a team all
Speaker 5: of last year?
Speaker 4: Six?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking we're bad? Like John Wack, John are.
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Ric o'dowdell, all right, Buddy, you're having fun in Carolina.
Speaker 1: He's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not.
Speaker 5: He's not having fun with Carolina. Sorry, Rico, good choice, Buddy.
Speaker 3: I still like Rika. Get out here, all right, Josh
Speaker 3: in Chicago our final call on my.
Speaker 6: Talk.
Speaker 3: That was awesome.
Speaker 1: That was what's up?
Speaker 4: Josh?
Speaker 13: So to quote Macho Man and Randy Savage, all these
Speaker 13: injuries unjustifiably in the position I ran, they're not being.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 13: One of the things that I was kind of looking
Speaker 13: at during the game. I gotta say, I think Bookers
Speaker 13: holding up really well. But in the running game, I
Speaker 13: think they got to get that wrinkle with Ceede Lamb
Speaker 13: on those end of the rounds again. You know, you
Speaker 13: see he kind of started slow, and I feel like
Speaker 13: when they get him involved early with those. It really
Speaker 13: just kind of opened him up in the passing game
Speaker 13: or I wanted to see more of that. Hopefully we'll
Speaker 13: see more of that this week, especially with Turpin, you know,
Speaker 13: seeing how he progresses throughout the week. Son't you guys there?
Speaker 13: I think I walked thround my office. I think I
Speaker 13: cut out for.
Speaker 6: A seconde hesitation there.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it was cut out for a second there. But yeah,
Speaker 13: that's the main thing I wanted to call him and say,
Speaker 13: is I'm liking what's going on in the run game,
Speaker 13: but I think we got to get involved in it more.
Speaker 13: I think that will help out a bit.
Speaker 7: But you'll have a great day.
Speaker 13: Hopefully get in touch with you guys on Friday.
Speaker 3: It sounds good. Appreciate your Josh in Chicago.
Speaker 5: Chicago made punk over there, Josh in Chicago.
Speaker 1: What the heck was that suit you did?
Speaker 3: What was at the beginning of that called.
Speaker 1: The Voice of the Voiceless? What was that?
Speaker 6: I need you to understand. It's Randy Savage snap into
Speaker 6: a damn slim Jim Kyle a link.
Speaker 1: Sayless.
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 1: We really have to get this guy off the speed
Speaker 1: on all things.
Speaker 3: Mikyle, what if you pivoted to wrestling, like instead of
Speaker 3: watching football.
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, if you.
Speaker 5: Left Cowboys and just went into independent profession.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'd have the voice for it, Absolutely
Speaker 3: I could.
Speaker 5: I could get you would be excellent doing like the commentator.
Speaker 5: You would be excellent being the commentator that actually gets
Speaker 5: into the matches and being like a smug.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe the heel commentator. You would be in.
Speaker 5: Wad be way bearry.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this really quickly, quick second. This is
Speaker 1: now I hope macho man man just one of the
Speaker 1: greatest ever. All right, back to.
Speaker 3: The call, Josh and Chicago saying he wants to get
Speaker 3: ce d Lamb involved in the run game a little
Speaker 3: bit more. I think I'm good without it.
Speaker 1: No, I'm good without I see what he was trying
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 3: No more babies. Well it's not even just you don't
Speaker 3: need to, you know. Yeah, if you're running the ball
Speaker 3: effectively for three four five yards yards of pop, why
Speaker 3: put your guy in in harms?
Speaker 6: And and then it comes it comes to durability. You
Speaker 6: need ce d Lamb healthy for the entirety.
Speaker 3: One hundred plus yards in each of the first two games.
Speaker 6: So yeah, don't add additional hisp because when you start
Speaker 6: handing the ball off, you're basically giving linebackers carte blanche
Speaker 6: to square him up right and get those hard hits
Speaker 6: that they otherwise wouldn't get a shot at if he's
Speaker 6: running downfield against cornerbacks. So when it was needed last season, okay,
Speaker 6: this season, it's so not needed.
Speaker 3: Right now, play it smart exactly. Maybe later in the
Speaker 3: year if the run game sputters and you need some
Speaker 3: kind of jolt, I could see that, but I would
Speaker 3: rather use a guy like and not to put him
Speaker 3: in harm's way either. But also just because of the speed,
Speaker 3: the end a round with Cavante Turpin has shown him
Speaker 3: to be far more effective, absolutely even than when CD
Speaker 3: Lamb had the end rounds.
Speaker 5: Well, if you're trying to give it to Davante Williams
Speaker 5: twenty five times a game, sounds. If you're trying to
Speaker 5: give it to Miles Sanders another five or six times
Speaker 5: a game, and we're trying to get Jaydon Blue involved
Speaker 5: as well. If he gets active one of those games,
Speaker 5: Cavante Turpin needs a carrier to come on, guys, how
Speaker 5: many times are we running the ball?
Speaker 3: Really? Yeah? I if we're going to use that wide receiver,
Speaker 3: sweep that end a round. Give it to CD I mean,
Speaker 3: excuse me, give.
Speaker 6: It to tell you who it's not. Handing the ball
Speaker 6: to Hunter Lipkey. I don't understand carries.
Speaker 5: Again, they love them.
Speaker 6: I understand why things. I understand why they love them.
Speaker 6: And I can't be more clear in the fact that
Speaker 6: I love the versatility of Hunter Lipkey. I love the
Speaker 6: physicality of Hunter lip Key. I love that if you
Speaker 6: were utilizing him, I know what he would bring for you.
Speaker 6: My my gripe is that you're not using him.
Speaker 1: But he's on the game day roster.
Speaker 3: He's there. I mean, he's taking special team snaps.
Speaker 6: That's fine, absolutely, But you know what if now, if
Speaker 6: you're in the AKA, if you're in a situation where
Speaker 6: you may be without Cavante Turpin and you're not using
Speaker 6: Hunter Lipkey on offense, you could use Jayden Blue as
Speaker 6: your returner. Because you just said, Okay, well Hunter gives
Speaker 6: you something on special teams. Okay, well now you need
Speaker 6: a special teams returner.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 6: So I'm I'm not saying, but I'm saying so again.
Speaker 6: I can't be more I can't stress this more. My
Speaker 6: gripe last week. This week has nothing to do with
Speaker 6: the ability of Hunter liftkey.
Speaker 1: It is there.
Speaker 6: I agree with the contract extension and what he can
Speaker 6: be for this team, but if you're choosing not to
Speaker 6: use him, then I need that spot to be utilized
Speaker 6: for somebody who can impact the game.
Speaker 3: I think it's kind of interesting how you, me and
Speaker 3: Isaiah all few this very differently. I like that Isaiah.
Speaker 3: Isaiah looks at it as why did you sign him
Speaker 3: and why do you need to use him like in
Speaker 3: a ball carrier, because they're not because they're not going
Speaker 3: to Whereas I see it as I'm glad they signed him,
Speaker 3: and I think what he does best as a football
Speaker 3: player is off the ball, is when he doesn't have
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands. I think he's a weapon
Speaker 3: when he has the ball in his hands, but it's blocking.
Speaker 3: His ability to be a lead blocker is tremendous. He's
Speaker 3: prayed in goal line sets. That's why you use him
Speaker 3: short yardage, goal line sets, and then on special teams
Speaker 3: as well. So I like what he does without the
Speaker 3: ball in his hands. And then you like you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm glad they paid him, but why aren't they not
Speaker 3: using why are they know? It's like if we all
Speaker 3: see it in a very different way. I'm sure Josh,
Speaker 3: you're probably somewhere in there as well.
Speaker 5: I just am not seeing it. Not seeing it, and
Speaker 5: you paid him. You want to see him more involved
Speaker 5: in the offense. But then again, it's like they're they
Speaker 5: have a plan going forward. I think he's going to
Speaker 5: get it's game two. I mean, I'm just we will
Speaker 5: see him. But if he's not being utilized and he's
Speaker 5: on the active roster, you're you're losing a spot there.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 3: But I would argue he is being utilized.
Speaker 5: In special teams and in short yardage short yard it
Speaker 5: gives you a benefit. I mean, how much has they
Speaker 5: have the Eagles won it because of their short yardage situation,
Speaker 5: cheating or not the cheating that's the first off everybody
Speaker 5: or the former.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you when you look at their short yardage game,
Speaker 3: how many games have they won because of that?
Speaker 1: Quite a bit?
Speaker 3: Short yardage is a massive part of football, and I
Speaker 3: think he gives you elements there and elements on the
Speaker 3: special team side that you are using. He's just not
Speaker 3: getting touches and I don't I don't think his value
Speaker 3: comes from that, but they did pay him quite a
Speaker 3: bit of money for a guy that only plays special
Speaker 3: teams and to not get any touches. So that's where.
Speaker 1: That's what you said, and I get it. That's it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I get it.
Speaker 3: But I think there's a k He.
Speaker 6: Has several abilities that I love for this team, just
Speaker 6: saying if you're not using him, I can point at
Speaker 6: a couple of the guys.
Speaker 1: That you could be using.
Speaker 3: We are also in week two, well very early, and
Speaker 3: we've only seen what the bag goes. You don't want
Speaker 3: to go all the way down to the bottom of
Speaker 3: the bag.
Speaker 1: But we can only speak to what we've seen or
Speaker 1: not seen.
Speaker 3: We've seen like a seven iron and an eight out.
Speaker 3: Gotta go, all right, Patrick, no Sea Walker for Josh Rodriguez,
Speaker 3: for Chris Beam and the back of Kyle Yellman saying
Speaker 3: so long from Talking Cowboys. We'll see you tomorrow as
Speaker 3: we preview the Dallas defense versus the Chicago offense.
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