1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, you are listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: and I have one of my favorite people here with 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: me today, Nicki Neely. She is the president and founder 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: of Parents Defending Education. It's a group that is out 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: there to empower parents but also to weed out some 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: of the bad things that are happening in our schools. 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: And I think there's so many more bad things. 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: Happening in our schools than you even know about. So 9 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: that's why we wanted Nikki to come on today, because 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: she's going to break it all down, the good, bad, 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: and the ugly. Nikki, thank you for being on here today. 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me absolutely so. You 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: have been a champion for parents four years. We were 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: just talking about. We've known each other for a very 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: long time. I've always appreciated your work. I love what 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: you're doing. Now. You had all of these parents sign 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: on to this letter. Tell us a little bit about 18 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: this because I as a parent who is in a 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: state that continues to defy the federal government with DEI 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I think multiple states are doing this and you you 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: are fighting back. 22 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: Yes. 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 4: So this actually was kicked off because of what had 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 4: happened in Iowa a few weeks ago where the Des 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 4: Moines superintendent was arrested. He was an illegal immigrant, he 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 4: had weapons, there was like a variety of things, but 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 4: as it turns out, he was just I mean essentially 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: a DEI hire of the school district. 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: How do they not know? 30 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, did they know he was not a legal citizen? 31 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean, is there a background on that? Because I 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: recognize that that can happen, people can lie, But did 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: they know? 34 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: I think they're still trying to sort out whether they knew. 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: But I mean, clearly due diligence, Like right now the 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 4: school district is pointing fingers at the search firm and 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: vice versa. So clearly due diligence was dropped along the 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 4: way somehow. But even I mean, I think you know, 40 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 4: when you and I changed jobs, you have to do 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: like an I nine right, you have to submit forms 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: to the federal government. There's a verify there any one 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: of a number of and balances that were not. 44 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: Followed in this situation. 45 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: But as we actually had uncovered in February of this year, Iowa, 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 4: despite being a red state, actually has affirmative action hiring 47 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: laws on the books, and so this is the kind 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 4: of thing where we thought, wow, if it's happening in 49 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: Iowa like this has to be happening elsewhere. And so 50 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 4: just what we did is we send letters to all 51 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: fifty states, to the governors, to the heads of the legislatures, 52 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 4: to the chiefs of the education departments, asking them what 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 4: we think is a very reasonable request, which is just 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 4: can you please conduct an internal audit to make sure 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: that your policies and procedures and laws comply with federal 56 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 4: anti discrimination law. 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 3: Should be pretty reasonable. 58 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: Frankly, if you receive a dollar or a penny from 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: the federal government, you are supposed to be complying with 60 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: that stuff anyway. But unfortunately, there are any one of 61 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: a number of problems, be it hiring, be it funding, 62 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 4: be it things like this where we have seen school districts, 63 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: universities across the country discriminated against teachers, students, and families 64 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: on the basis of race, sex, and other mutable characteristics. 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: And that just has to end. 66 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: Particularly as the federal government looks to send power back 67 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: to the states. 68 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 3: We want the states to get their houses in order. 69 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting that you that we struggle with this, because 70 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: if you're in a state where you have charter schools, 71 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: or there is any any funding that goes to something 72 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: that is I guess a school that is defined outside 73 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: of the traditional public school. 74 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: The auditing is so. 75 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Tight and it's so easy to lose your funding in 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: those schools that you would think that this is pretty standard, 77 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: But the state is generally pretty lax. 78 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: When it comes to the public schools. 79 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: I think, especially in blue states, because we know that 80 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: the unions give a lot of money, and they may 81 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: not give directly to the candidates, but they have a 82 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: way of getting money to their Democrat candidates to then win, 83 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: and then it's kind of like hands off. 84 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: No, you're totally right. 85 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: After the Janice decision, unions made a very conscious and 86 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: public decision just to run sympath either members or sympathetic 87 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 4: individuals in school board races. 88 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: Clearly also in state legislatures. 89 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: But we have over the past several years been filing 90 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: civil rights complaints against school districts and universities that have 91 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: been discriminating on the basis of race. One that we 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 4: did in February of this year was against Chicago Public Schools, 93 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: where I'm from originally, because they had what they call 94 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: a black student achievement plan where only black students would 95 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: be eligible for additional tutoring, additional funding, additional programming. And 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: it's interesting when I started to look through CPS's own documents, 97 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 4: their numbers, their own numbers show that Hispanic students actually 98 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: perform worse and struggle more than Black students. And when 99 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 4: we fillow this complaint, CPS's response was, well, this is 100 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: a state law. 101 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 3: We had to do it. 102 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: And like, well the state law is unconstitutional, guys, what 103 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: are you doing? And so things like this, you know, 104 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: this is like, this feels this is like World War two, 105 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: like just following orders, Like no, you kind of follow orders. 106 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: You must follow the constitution full stop. This is the 107 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: type what you are doing right now. I want people 108 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: to understand. We talk all all the time about what's 109 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: happening with our public schools. How can we make sure 110 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: there's not indoctrination, not discrimination, all of these things are 111 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: not happening. It's organizations like yours that get it done. 112 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: Because you know the law, you're able to go in 113 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: there with a team, You're able to review what they're doing. 114 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: And I think that people go, oh, it's another nonprofit, 115 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: but you need it's like a watchdog group. And if 116 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: we don't have that, like I said, there is no 117 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: control because it's the fox watching the henhouse. You've got 118 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: the union leaders just giving money right back to the 119 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: people in charge to look the other way. But this 120 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: gets dangerous at a certain point. We were talking before 121 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: we got on a lot of people don't know this. 122 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: I just learned this probably within the last ten years, 123 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: and it was stunning to me. So if you haven't 124 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: heard this, I think it's probably going to be stunning 125 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: to you. If you understand how predators work. When it 126 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: comes to child predators, you know that they look for 127 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: jobs around kids. So too often people become teachers that 128 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: are child predators. I'm not saying that teachers are child predators. 129 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying child predators look for jobs around children, and 130 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: sometimes that can be teaching. But when they are discovered 131 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: in the line of teaching, in the field of teaching, 132 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: the unions protect them. Explain what happens. 133 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: Yes, this is a really it's a horrifying phenomena. You're right, 134 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 4: if a school here's an allegation that a child has 135 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 4: been abused, they clearly they have to conduct an investigation. 136 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 3: All school employees are what's called mandatory reporters. 137 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: So if they hear, you know that a child is 138 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: being beaten, is being raped, if they have reason to 139 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: believe that, they must report it. 140 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: Just under every state's child protective laws. 141 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: If a school opened an investigation into a teacher, but 142 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: the investigation is not closed out, if the teacher quits, transfers, 143 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: resigns before the investigation is concluded, there is no paper trail. 144 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 4: And so very often if an investigation is open and 145 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: the teacher will just move. This actually happens so frequently 146 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 4: that the term for it is called passing the trash. 147 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: And so we watched this happen where yeah, educators will 148 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: move from school to school. This also, unfortunately happened in 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: Virginia a couple of years ago when a student had 150 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: assaulted another student, the case of Scott Smith and Lowden County. 151 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: Rather than actually adjudicating that case properly, the district just 152 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: moved that offending student to another to another high school, 153 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: where he went on to assault another student in a bathroom. 154 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: And so this is this happened. 155 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: We had a very similar situation in Michigan. Actually, someone 156 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: who is a I believe that the child's parent was 157 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: a clerk and the allegedly this clerk went to as 158 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: a has political power in the Democrat party and went 159 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: to the higher ups and said, I want to see this. 160 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: In this particular case, this child was choiced into this school. 161 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: We have school choice in the state of Michigan. You 162 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: could choice into other public schools or charter schools, and 163 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: he was choiced into the school. He allegedly attacked this 164 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: one of the girls there, and I mean there was 165 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: a court case and everything, so I guess at a 166 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: certain point it was proven out that this happened, and 167 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: the story goes that he was able to stay at 168 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: the school even though this poor girl had been attacked 169 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: by him. I mean, these are the things that need 170 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: to be audited. 171 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: How can a girl have to go to school with 172 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: her attack or every day? 173 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: No? And that's what I mean. There are laws in 174 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 4: the books, right there are tenal nine. There are things 175 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 4: like this where school officials are just not upholding the 176 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 4: responsibilities under the law. And I think partially with the 177 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: case of these you know, predator teachers. What really frightens 178 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: me is when you have a situation like that and 179 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: a union that is going to back them up and demand, 180 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: you know, do process, et cetera. But then the overlay 181 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 4: of that against bad school policies like rental exclusion policies. 182 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: This is something we've been tracking since twenty twenty three, 183 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 4: where we have identified about twelve hundred districts accounting that 184 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 4: have school policies ratified by elected school board officials that 185 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: say you, as a parent, don't have a right to 186 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: know your child's gender at school, and so in the 187 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: course of sex said lessons, et cetera, students are told 188 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 4: keep secrets from mom and dad. The problem with that, 189 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: of course, is that it's not just the gay students 190 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 4: that hear that, it's everybody. A couple of years ago, 191 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 4: we had suited school district in Iowa over their parental 192 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 4: exclusion policy. They said, from seventh grade on, you have 193 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: no right. Seventh grade is about thirteen, right, so when 194 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: kids hit puberty that district had had I want to say, 195 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: five incidents of teacher on sexual relations. 196 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 3: Over the previous several years. 197 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 4: And so you know you as you know you and 198 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: I as parents, we tell our kids you never keep 199 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 4: a secret from mom and dad, and if somebody tells 200 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 4: you to do that, they're. 201 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: A dangerous person, and you stay away. 202 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: From them. 203 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: But for our children to be told those lessons with 204 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: our tax dollars behind our back, and then to put 205 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: them the mercy of these people who have ill intentions 206 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: is truly insult injury. 207 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: I think oftentimes we've heard this story of the child 208 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: that gets trans behind mom and dad's back. That happened 209 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: recently in Michigan within the last few months. This was 210 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: exposed in the state of Michigan that this happened. But 211 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: I think oftentimes parents say, Okay, well, I'm not concerned 212 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: about that happening to my child. I've talked to them regularly. 213 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: I know what's going on. But you make a great point. 214 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: If the school is telling kids in general, there are 215 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: things that happen at school that are not supposed. 216 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: To go home. 217 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: That does open a roadway for predators to take advantage 218 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: of your kid, and your kid grooming is very manipulative. 219 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: It changes a child's mind. There are such big dangers 220 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: around this. If this is the policy of your school, but. 221 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 4: You don't know, you don't know, yeah, and you know 222 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 4: it could be it's sex. 223 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: It could also be drug usage. 224 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: We have seen lots of school districts that don't tell 225 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 4: parents when they're his been a drug overdose in the bathroom. 226 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: They say, well, there's student privacy issues at you know, 227 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 4: at stake. Well, what about my right as a parent 228 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 4: to tell my kid, hey, guess what, don't go in 229 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: the bathroom and take pills from somebody who you don't. 230 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 4: I just you're not able to protect or imminize your 231 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 4: child against danger if you don't even know what the 232 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: danger is. 233 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 2: How do you find this stuff out? 234 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: Families and schools is so fragmented and fraid right now? 235 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: How does your organization find these things out and help? 236 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: Or do people come to you? 237 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: Because I think that that's where we as parents are 238 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: right now. If we see something, who do we call? 239 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: Who do we talk to? We don't feel like we 240 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: have a team on our side. 241 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, we we have a tip line. 242 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 4: We have since our launch in twenty twenty one, been 243 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: receiving fifty to two hundred tips a week from across 244 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: the country. 245 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,119 Speaker 3: So we still through everything. 246 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: You know, we want people to send us prove if 247 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: they have it, a screenshot, a hyperlank, a PEDF. 248 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: But if they don't, we love to file public records requests. 249 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: You'd be surprised what a lot of school leaders put 250 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: in writing when they because they don't think of themselves 251 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: as public officials. So we have asked for copse of policies, 252 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: copies of contracts on all different things, on race, on gender, 253 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: on union issues, on I mean, I live in a 254 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 4: district where they regularly ask us to pass nine figure 255 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: bonds because they're constantly running. 256 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: Out of money. 257 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: What are you spending the money on? There are fewer 258 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: students in school right now, achievement is not going well. 259 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 3: Where is the accountability? 260 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: Like if I run out of money, I can't just 261 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 4: ask the taxpayers to pick up the tab. 262 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: Yet. 263 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: Again, that's another thing that I think people haven't seen, 264 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: and that's something that so one of the people that 265 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: I worked with a few years ago used to run 266 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: an organization that did something similar, and he was shocked 267 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: by what you would find. You would find that these 268 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: local districts would send their superintendents or their their administration 269 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: on a retreat to Hawaii for five days. And this 270 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: would be cost one hundred thousand dollars or two hundred 271 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars to send ten administrators to Hawaii 272 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: at one of the nicest hotels. They're there for five days, 273 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: learning about how to be an administrator. I mean this 274 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: is this was spending money just to spend money. 275 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: It was like a. 276 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Little cash cow for these people to take vacations, and 277 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean all these bizarre things where they have they 278 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: have healthcare that covers facelifts and boob jobs and everything else. 279 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and even you think about something as 280 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: basic because when there's a teacher in service day for 281 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: professional development, you know, when that happens, you and I 282 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 4: have to find a babysitter for our kids for a day. 283 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's hard to take a day off work. 284 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 4: But what are they learning. 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Do you 319 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: have people in different states? I mean, because I do 320 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: think that we want to know we're I mean, in 321 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan, we're in an interesting situation where 322 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: we have a massive amount of administration so to go 323 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: through it because we have too many school districts, so 324 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: I think it's like over five hundred. So if you 325 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: were to go try to do that, I mean, that 326 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: almost helps to hide everything because if you have so 327 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: many districts in one state, it's very hard to chase 328 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: this stuff down. 329 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, we work with a network of about three hundred 330 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: and seventy five parent groups across the country, varying levels 331 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: of you know, size sophistication. 332 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: But we also try and teach people how to do this. 333 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: You know, with the collapse of the local news industry, 334 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: I grew up with a local paper where they would 335 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: go to the school board meeting and the city council 336 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 4: meeting and report on that. Clearly that's not happening anymore, 337 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: either at the local, state, or federal level. So it's 338 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: really kind of incumbent on all of us. I think 339 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 4: for so many parents, it was a real wake up 340 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: call during COVID that the gatekeepers, the people who we 341 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: thought had our children's best interested heart, clearly didn't you know, 342 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: the decisions that they were being made, even you know, 343 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: with regards to school closures or how funds were being 344 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: spent at the federal levels or funding. When they passed 345 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: the one hundred ninety billion dollars, I think a lot 346 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: of us thought, oh, they're going to buy air purifiers 347 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: and hand sanitizers and our kids, look, get back in classrooms. 348 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 4: I mean we saw in California and Illinois programs like that. 349 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 4: You know, schools didn't open, and then the money was 350 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 4: just spent on DEI initiatives that made our children worse off, 351 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 4: hate each other, and not any smarter and not make 352 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 4: up any learning loss. And so it is almost you know, 353 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: they're trying to teach parents how to be that voice 354 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: and that investigator because there is nobody else keeping an 355 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: eye on these things. 356 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: Well, and I have heard we've had some people on 357 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: the show who have said, you know, in order to 358 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: pay for anti racism, you need racism. 359 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: So essentially you're going into the schools and. 360 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: To have a reason to have DEI, you need people 361 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: to be bigoted in some way, and so you're almost 362 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: teaching that to create an issue where you have to 363 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: fund an entire agency that prevents what you're teaching. 364 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 4: Yes years ago, I heard the Safety of Michigan when 365 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: I ran a campus free speech group, and this was 366 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: one of the things that came up the university's DEI department. 367 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: Their sort of definition of what bias and hate was 368 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 4: was a unconstitutional but it was basically any time somebody's 369 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 4: feelings were hurt. How do you triangulate around that as 370 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: a student. If I don't know what is going to 371 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 4: upset you, then out of an abundance of caution, I'm 372 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 4: just not going to say anything at all because I 373 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: don't want to possibly get in trouble and be hauled 374 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 4: into a star chamber hearing so things like that where 375 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 4: when there are no clear lines and there is nobody saying, 376 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 4: I don't know if this is the right problem, we 377 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: should be prosecuting. Michigan's Bias Response team actually, one of 378 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 4: the things that they had a list of all the 379 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: different complaints people had made. One of them was that 380 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: somebody had built a phallax shaped snow sculpture. I mean, 381 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 4: is that like a microaggression. Is that a hate crime? 382 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 3: Or is that just an eighteen year old boy being 383 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: a little bit immature. 384 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: But when you start to look at the numbers, right, 385 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 4: if this bureaucracy says, well we had twice as many 386 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 4: hate incidents as we did the year before. We need 387 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 4: more money, we need more programming, we need more staffers, 388 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 4: it does become this self perpetuating machine. It's you know, 389 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 4: it's like the Reagan's saying, the closest thing to eternal 390 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: life is is a government program. 391 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: They will never say mission accomplished, let's shut it down. 392 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: You brought up the speech that I think it was 393 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: a University of Michigan where it was like somebody was 394 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: overheard saying something and someone else was offended. The idea 395 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: of these microaggressions, I think, like, how is that even 396 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: a term? 397 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: People say that. 398 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know the word that you're 399 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: talking about. I'm not even sure what you're what you're saying. 400 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's this is insane. But this is when 401 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: we leave the high school and we as parents have 402 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: much less control. We are sending our kids to universities 403 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: where suddenly they get overheard on camp and they get 404 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: called into a hearing That also was stunning to me. 405 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: I'm nervous enough about sending my kids away and having 406 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: whatever happens on a college campus happen and whatever professors 407 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: are telling them, but to think that they could be 408 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: overheard talking to a friend walking through campus and then 409 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: called in for a hearing that they are afraid will 410 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: go on truly a permanent record that we'll go to employers. Yes, absolutely, 411 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: and so it is. 412 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: You know, that's sort of the interesting and one of 413 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: the reasons that we had expanded into higher ed in 414 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: April of this year is the policies on campus are 415 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 4: not staying on campus. A lot of them are metastasizing 416 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 4: down to CATA twelve, so biased response teams where students 417 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: are encouraged to anonymously report on others we now see 418 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: in K to twelve settings. But also, at the same time, 419 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: a lot of the illiberal behaviors that we're seeing taught 420 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 4: in the CA to twelve system are manifesting on college campuses. Clearly, 421 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: students don't have any civic understanding when they get to college, 422 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 4: which is why they think it is appropriate and just 423 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: to punch another student in the face, if they disagree 424 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 4: with their speech, or if they've never been disciplined for 425 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 4: anything in the their entire life, then they think, of 426 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: course I can create an encampment and terrorize my fellow students. 427 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: Well, and where did we just see the teaching assistant 428 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: that was fired for turning over the turning Point table? 429 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: Right? 430 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 2: That was just at a university campus. This, this is happening. 431 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: We had. I went to a Turning Point campus probably 432 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: four weeks ago, and the student who started up this 433 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: Turning Point chapter was tabling. And that means he's out 434 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: on campus with his table and had a professor pour 435 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 1: hot coffee over his head. I mean, if you are 436 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: a student who sees a professor do that, then you 437 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: think that that kind of and that is violent. That's 438 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: violence when you are pouring hot coffee over someone's head. 439 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: This is not speech. This is violence. And it seems 440 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: to be conflated. People are not understanding the difference these days. 441 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: Yes, it's absolutely wild, and it's been so funny and 442 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: the response to a lot of what had been you know, 443 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: the encampments and everything. In October seventh, all of the 444 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 4: people who wanted nothing more than to shut down and silence. 445 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: Conservatives over the past you know, decade are not claiming 446 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 4: that they have free speech rights. And as you said, no, 447 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: physical violence doesn't count as free speech. Like there are 448 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: some very clear lines, and you can't have it both ways. 449 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 4: But of course, you know, the intention of these policies, 450 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 4: as well as the behavior of the students and professors, 451 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: is that they want they want people just as self censor. 452 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: They just want to shut you up. 453 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: It's that I don't have to punch everyone in the face, 454 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 4: but if I punch tutor, then everyone is going everyone 455 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: who thinks like her is going to keep their mouth 456 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: shut going forward. 457 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obviously that's what we saw with Charlie. 458 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: You know, if I silence won, I can stop this 459 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: from happening. And I do think that there is a 460 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: lot of division going. 461 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: On and there there's a lot of. 462 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: It's pushing this idea that you have a lot of 463 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: people saying speech is violence. It changes the narrative then 464 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: to if speech is violence, you can respond with violence. 465 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: There's a confusion among our young people. I will say 466 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: that there's a push right now in K through twelve, 467 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: and I've seen this from Republicans as well. We've got 468 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: to get more mental health treatment. We've got to get 469 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: more mental health treatment. It's got to be in our schools. 470 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: But I have to tell you the idea of someone 471 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: counseling my child without me there, and in my state, 472 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: once my kid hits twelve, I don't get to see 473 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: their medical records unless they sign it off for me 474 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: to see. So that could very easily mean that there 475 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: is a medical professional in the school treating them for 476 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: a mental health issue that I don't know about. 477 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: I am uncomfortable with that. 478 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: And absolutely you should be, and you're right. 479 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: I mean, the medical age of consents and so many 480 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: of these states is appallingly low. A lot of the 481 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 4: say nineties, it was when you know, it was a 482 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 4: push for birth control in schools. If you know, mommy's 483 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 4: Catholic and she doesn't want you to have birth control, let's, 484 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 4: you know, let's get that to you. And then the 485 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: definition of you know, health care services has just expanded, 486 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: and so even right reproductive care in nineteen ninety five 487 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: was you know, birth control. 488 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: Now it's transgender hormones. 489 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 4: And so just again to sort of watch these little 490 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: feefdoms expand, and to your point about the mental health screenings. 491 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, there are the surveys that take place, 492 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 4: but it's the even you know, the information that they 493 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 4: gather and what ideas are they putting into students' heads 494 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: when you when you pull a student over and over again, 495 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 4: are you suicidal? 496 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 3: Are you suicidal? 497 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: It starts to actually put that idea in and normalize it. Well, 498 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 4: I wasn't, but is everybody? Am I the only one 499 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: who isn't? Maybe I'm weird, maybe I should be. And 500 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 4: then to cut parents out of that loop. I mean, 501 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 4: you know, you and I have to sign permission slips 502 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 4: for our kids to have sunscreen and abvil, you know, 503 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 4: and but you can go on and then, you know, 504 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 4: and then have somebody who is not even necessarily a 505 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 4: licensed mental health professional perhaps like maybe it's a guidance 506 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 4: counselor who generally is like are you going to Michigan 507 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 4: or Michigan State? Right, Like they're the person who is 508 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: having these very very high stakes to say. 509 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: That changes from Michigan to Michigan State too. Are you 510 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: a woman or a man? You're probably not what you 511 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: were born? You know, I mean, this is crazy, yeah. 512 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: And we also have it. 513 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean I say that at the same time where 514 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: I feel like girls are really struggling in school to 515 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: prove that they shouldn't have to share a locker room 516 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: with someone who is in that situation. 517 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: Well, this is what I think. 518 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: You have a lot of these counselors who are pushing 519 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: kids into this. You're probably the wrong gender. It tends 520 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 1: to be male to female that we're seeing going into 521 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: sports and they are going into the locker room with women, 522 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: and they're changing, and they're watching girls change and they're 523 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: taking over their sports. And it is like today there 524 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: are people on the left who think you are insane 525 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: for saying that is not okay, and I can't even 526 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: believe it. 527 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, but again, this is one of those fundamental things 528 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 4: that we tell our children as parents. Right, if you 529 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: have a bad feeling, if you feel unsafe, right, listen 530 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 4: to your body and follow it. But we now have 531 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: our girls in schools if they are uncomfortable and they 532 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 4: say I don't really want to get naked in front 533 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 4: of that guy, then they're told by school administrators you're 534 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 4: a bad person. 535 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 3: In Europe. 536 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 4: Pass and again, so it's causing all of these students, 537 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: all of these children to second guest themselves and that 538 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: is really dangerous. 539 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 540 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Most parents of girls are very 541 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: concerned about it right now. I was telling my girls 542 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: the other day. They said they don't do this anymore, 543 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: and they were shocked that we did so when I 544 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 2: was in high school, which was a million years ago. 545 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: At middle school too, we had to shower after jim 546 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 2: every single day and there was a gym teacher in 547 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: the shower to make sure you showered, which is even 548 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: creepier now that you think about it. 549 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: And we had these towels that were two feet it 550 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: didn't wrap all the way around you. 551 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: It was the craziest thing. 552 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: And I hadn't thought about it million years, And I 553 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, when we were kids, we had to 554 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: shower in front of all of our friends, and you 555 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: were forced to shower, and if you didn't shower, you 556 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: were in trouble. They watched you to make sure you showered. 557 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: But I think about it, and it wasn't like horrifying. 558 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it was gross, but it wasn't horrified. What 559 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: if a boy were in there, I would have been horrified. 560 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: No. 561 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 4: I live in Northern Virginia, and there have been a 562 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 4: number of horrible incidents along these lines. 563 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: Recently, there was. 564 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: A sex offend, registered sex offender that was in the 565 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 4: locker room of a high school and he was exposing 566 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: himself to small children. I was in an event with 567 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: Secretary McMahon a few weeks ago and one woman said, 568 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 4: my nine year old daughter was hiding cowering in a 569 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: bathroom stall, waiting for him to go away, and they 570 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 4: didn't do anything on it because he identified as a woman, 571 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 4: and so they felt that they had to let him in. 572 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 4: They didn't run IDs, they didn't check, you know, so 573 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: they didn't check against a sex offender registry. But then 574 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 4: also conversely, in another district in Louden County, there was 575 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: a girl that went into the boys bathroom. 576 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 3: She identified as a male. 577 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: She was recording the boys in there as mat changing 578 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: and the boys complained and they are now under investigation 579 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 4: on Title nine charges because they are considered sexually harassing 580 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 4: and discriminating on the basis of gender. So it is 581 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: we're through the looking glass on so many of these issues. 582 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: That's a whole new level too. 583 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: The recording, the constant recording the kids are going through 584 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: and I know that that's something. Parents have been fighting 585 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: to get cell phones off of school campuses, and I 586 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: really do believe that cell phones should not be allowed 587 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: on the campus. You either come in you have to 588 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: lock them up and get them at the end of 589 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: the day. But just think about the number of things, 590 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean all the schools. So for parents who don't 591 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: have kids in high school, now high schools all have 592 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: their own somebody. Our school has this an Instagram page 593 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: where like a senior, we don't know who. Every year, 594 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: a senior is running the Instagram page and it passes 595 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: from senior to senior and they figure out the next 596 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: senior they pass it down and it is just to 597 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: make fun of kids at the school, so they find 598 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: old pictures or they take videos. And every day people 599 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: are so afraid of ending up on this Instagram page 600 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: because yes, and I. 601 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 2: Think this is happening. 602 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, my daughter, my niece, they totally different states, 603 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: they have this same situation. So I think that people 604 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: need to understand that our kids have a really different 605 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: life than what we had. And this idea that you 606 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: can mix genders, that everybody's the same, all this stuff, 607 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: it's going to lead to abuse and it's going to 608 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: lead to real mental harm. 609 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: M yeah, I mean the cyber bowling is terrifying. 610 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 4: And then there is also just the element of youthful 611 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: indiscretion and kids changing their mind. I certainly don't have 612 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: the same political opinions I did when I was fourteen. 613 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: You know, many of us have done stupid things, right, 614 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: you know, but it's there is this element of personal growth. 615 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: I feel like over the past couple years, we've seen 616 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 4: stories of even fellow students that have held or kept 617 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 4: or saved videos of people and then used it years 618 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 4: later to destroy somebody's life who they didn't like. Oh 619 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: you know, I just got this girl's offer pulled from 620 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: her college because I showed that she you know, said 621 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: something awful four years ago. 622 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: And you know, where is that? 623 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 4: Like we do, there is an element of you know, 624 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: we should want to bestow Christian grace on others and 625 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: forgiveness and allow people to learn from their mistakes and evolve. 626 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: But everything online lives forever, and it really it denies 627 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: that opportunity to people. 628 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting. 629 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: I'll just say this is a total aside, but my 630 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: girls they had phones in middle school, which parents go crazy, 631 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's this idea like keep your kids away 632 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: from phones, and they had phones in middle school and 633 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a came from my parents 634 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: thing and. 635 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: We just dealt with it. 636 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: But it's also the technology that they are going to 637 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: live with the rest of their lives. And they learned 638 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: and we monitored very closely. But they're some other friends. 639 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: Their parents said, well, you're not getting it until you 640 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: turn sixteen or until you get into high school, and 641 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: they're like, mom, this is something I had never considered. 642 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: They're like, mom, you know how you go through that 643 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: really cringey phase of taking videos of yourself And I'm like, no, 644 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: because that was not a thing. So genuinely, no, I 645 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: have no knowledge of this. And they're like, oh, our 646 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: friends that get their cell phones in high school they're 647 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: going through their cringy phase then, and there's horrible videos 648 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: of them. And I'm like, things I hadn't thought about. 649 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: And then you end up those are your permanent people 650 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: know that of you in high school. There's just so 651 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: much as parents, we don't know how this technology is 652 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: going to affect our kids. 653 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's really scary. My children are smaller, they're 654 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: ten and twelve. 655 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 4: They don't have phones yet, but it is watching my 656 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: friends and my peers and sort of trying to figure 657 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: out how to navigate that and keep them from being 658 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: excluded in the one you know, the two weird kids 659 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 4: who don't have phones and can't talk to people, who. 660 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: Go through their cringy phase and college in high school. Yeah, no, 661 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: it's hard. 662 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I That's why I think your 663 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: organization is so great because I think as parents we 664 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: are dealing with so many things that we weren't. I 665 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: never my parents never had to deal with any of 666 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: this stuff. I mean, there wasn't this kind of thing 667 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: happening at schools. There weren't kids that were meowing in 668 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: the hallways, and there weren't cell phones, and there wasn't roadblocks. 669 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you think about what we deal with as 670 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: parents so much different than what our parents had to 671 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: deal with. 672 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: My mom says it all the time. 673 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm not envious of you raising kids today, and I 674 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: think every generation says that. But I think the biggest 675 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: change was the technology between my childhood and my kid's childhood. 676 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: So I do believe we are having a harder time 677 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: doing this, and your organization is one that we need 678 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: so desperately to be aware of and be in contact with. 679 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: So can you tell people how they can look everything 680 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: up and find you guys? 681 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, our website is defending ed dot org. 682 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 4: Run all of the social media platforms Twitter and Facebook 683 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 4: and Instagram, but we have a tip line people. 684 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: Can say they can. 685 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 4: Submit things to us anonymously, so we will never have 686 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 4: anybody's names involved. We don't want, you know, I think 687 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 4: people credibly fear tale Ethan both a gets themselves as 688 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 4: well as their children, and and so we will always 689 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: be the bad guys and take the hate mail. But 690 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 4: we also yeah, we love to investigate things and then 691 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 4: just to pull together lots of the anecdotes that we see. 692 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 4: When we see a handout that's been in like fifteen schools, 693 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 4: like the gender unicorn or something, we think, where is 694 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 4: this coming from, who is putting this out, who is 695 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 4: funding this, how is this getting it, you know, making 696 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 4: its way across the country, and then getting all that 697 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: information into the hands of policymakers so we can actually 698 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 4: affect real change at the local, state, and federal level. 699 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 1: I love that because I do oftentimes get messages from 700 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: people like our schools sent I think just because I'm 701 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: known in the state, so people will send me private 702 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: messages on Facebook or Twitter and say, you know this, 703 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: I got this letter home from my school today. 704 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: This is scary. I'm going to sert sending those to you, 705 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: just because I think it's good to have a record 706 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: of all the schools that are doing it. 707 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 3: No, and we want to work with people. 708 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 4: You know, everybody getting to yes and getting to a 709 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 4: good resolution is different for everybody. Some people are just like, 710 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 4: you know, I don't want that handout ever again. Or 711 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 4: some people are like, I want a new superintendent. And so, 712 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: you know, we are happy to work with people, have 713 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 4: private conversation and then also just give general tips on 714 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: how to get engaged. You know, so many parents were 715 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: not politically active until COVID happened, and so we have 716 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 4: guides on questions to ask your teacher about different topics, 717 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: readings to get smart, how to file a civil rights complaint, 718 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 4: how to write a press release, you know, how to 719 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 4: write a letter to the editor. Just you know, ways 720 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: where people can just be a little bit more involved, 721 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, it's really only 722 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 4: us that have our children's best interest at heart. It's 723 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 4: not the policymakers. It's not the you know, the administrators, 724 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 4: it's it's us as parents. 725 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely well, thank you for what you do, and 726 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: thank you Nicky Neely for coming on the podcast today, 727 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: thank you for having me, absolutely and thank you all. 728 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: For listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast. For this episode 729 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 2: and others. 730 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: You can go to the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 731 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. You can also watch it 732 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: on Rumble or YouTube at Tutor Dixon. But make sure 733 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: you join us next time and have a blessed day.