1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to you need Therapy. I am 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: the host Cat, and I am so glad you're here, 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: and I'm so glad we made it. It is the 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: final week of I'm going to share some thoughts about 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: how to move through on couch Talks on Wednesday, but 6 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk about New Year's resolutions today. A 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: lot of us are ramping up to finally press a 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: start button on some goals and desires we've been waiting 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: to work towards, and statistically, at the same time of 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: New year resolutions don't stick, and the most popular resolutions 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: all revolve around dieting, which I think most of us 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: will be like, oh yeah, that sounds about right. So 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: for the sake of not wasting your own time, I'm 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: going to invite you to try something a little bit 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: different with me this year. And I have my friend 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: at Crystal on today to talk about dieting and why 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: dieting doesn't work and why at the same time, we 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: keep trying it anyway every year, and I'm really excited 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: for her to beyond She's awesome, she's been on the 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: show before. But first I want to talk generally about 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: why the resolutions we keep or we keep setting don't work. 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: I have found two consistent problems. One of the problems 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: is how freaking big they are. One thing that resolutions 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: usually have in common is that they are things that 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: take months to really obtain, like losing fifty pounds or 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: running a marathon, So you will essentially be losing at 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: something for months until you finally win. And then what 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: after you get that thing? Does life go back to normal? 29 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Are you then allowed to start eating donuts again? Or 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: do you now spend your free time watching dog tiktoks 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: instead of running? Like it's something that we work towards, 32 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and we work towards, and we work towards and then 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: we get it and then like okay. So that's one 34 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: of the issues is the magnitude, and the other issue 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: is the new year, new me stuff. I personally get 36 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: really frustrated, angry, sad when I see this because very rarely, 37 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: if ever, do I encounter people who need to become 38 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: completely new people. All of us, all of you, were 39 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: created with purpose, on purpose, for purpose, the way you 40 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: were created, not to become a new person. You don't 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: need to change your whole self. We just have to 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: figure out how to use who we are in the 43 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: very best way. I remember asking a client a couple 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: of years ago, um, what parts of her years she 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: wanted to leave and what parts she wanted to keep, 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: and she wrote like five things down, and basically I 47 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: could summarize those five things as I want to change 48 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: everything about me, become a new human with a better body, 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: more personality, and no emotions that make myself or anyone uncomfortable. 50 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: It's like she wanted, like a I don't know, a 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 1: whole transformation of everything of her that a lot of 52 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: people found redeeming. And so one, it's not possible to 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: create a new you. It's not possible. And the other 54 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: thing is it's not necessary. So if you're going to 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: be one of the fort of Americans that attempt New 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: Year resolutions, let's talk about how to use this as 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: it kicks start to find small victories and who you 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: already are. I have four things that I want to 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: share with you, and then after that we'll move into 60 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: the conversation I had with crystals. So one, I want 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: you guys to look at how we can choose a 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: way to win every day a k A. Stop picking 63 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: goals that you have to consistently fail until you win 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: one time. So for something to actually stick, you'll we 65 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: need positive reinforcement frequently. And if you have a long 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: term goal in mind, I want you to think about 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: how can I set up ways to see progress in 68 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: the meantime. And progress doesn't always mean to success. That's 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: a little foreshadowing into some of these other things. Second thing, 70 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: add instead of subtract. So try not to be restrictive 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: in your goals. So add things in instead of taking 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: them away. Add in ten minutes of stretching instead of 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: taking out mindlessly scrolling Instagram. Our brains actually respond better too, 74 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: things we can have rather than things we can't. And 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: if I tell you that you aren't allowed to have 76 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: chocolate for thirty days, you are going to treat chocolate 77 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: like magic. You're gonna think about chocolate all the time, 78 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: and you're gonna set yourself up to bing John chocolate 79 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: after the thirty days are over. A new year's resolution, 80 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: I think, should feel like a gift and not a punishment. 81 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: So I want you to think about creating goals that 82 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: promote you being worthy of rather than not good enough 83 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: for all right. The third thing, simply start believing in yourself. 84 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 1: I see a lot of people quit and not try 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: things simply because they don't think it's possible. And self 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: doubt is a very normal human experience. We all struggle 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: with it, we all have it. It all pops up 88 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: time from time to time, but it should never be 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: given the power to determine your ability to do something. 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: I like to think that all self doubt really is 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: is success testing you. So that brings me to the 92 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: most important part. The fourth thing. Make it a point 93 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: to grow this year instead of succeed. Okay, the people 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: who do the impossible over and over again, like the 95 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: people that you're like, what, how do they they're doing that? 96 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: And that whoa, they just did this thing. That people 97 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: who do the impossible over and over again have a 98 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: way bigger appetite for growth rather than success. Okay, so 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: they're looking towards how do I grow as a human, 100 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: as a community, as whatever, not how do I succeed. 101 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: You do not need to be a new you. You 102 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: do not need to lose fifty pounds. You do not 103 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: need to run a marathon. You need to do what 104 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: you were created to do, and that requires growth, not 105 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: to be a new, better version of you. But to 106 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: find the better that already lives inside of you. Growing 107 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: is something that is painful, and change is most of 108 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: the time very uncomfortable. But what would be more painful 109 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: and more uncomfortable is for you to continue to stay 110 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: stuck somewhere where you don't belong because you're trying to 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: succeed at something rather than grow. And I like to 112 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: say that I believe all of us have tons of 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: strength inside of us. And you know, people start going 114 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: to gyms and then New Year become stronger and all 115 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: this stuff. And I get that. And at the same time, 116 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't we enter those places to build strength. We 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: enter those places to find the strength that we already have. 118 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: We just have to learn how to access it, and 119 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: that is through growing and not succeeding all the time. 120 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: So this year, I challenge you to grow. I don't 121 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: challenge you to be someone different. I challenge you to 122 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: do something different. And if you are struggling to figure 123 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: out what that might look like, I want to encourage 124 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: you to reach out to a therapist, because if I 125 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: do say so, we are good at this kind of stuff. 126 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: We're good at teasing this kind of stuff out. And 127 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: now I want to share with you the conversation I 128 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: had with Crystal about dieting in general, and it's specifically 129 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: targeted at the intense jolt that we get to start 130 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: a fad diet every January and before we queue that, 131 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: and I want to be super honest and super transparent. 132 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes I really feel like I have to tiptoe so 133 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: much when I'm talking about this stuff. Whether you're on 134 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: the person who loves the diets or your anti diet culture, 135 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: whether you're on either side, what I want to share 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: with you, guys is that I am a human like 137 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: you guys, and so I am someone who doesn't believe 138 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: in promoting and supporting diets. I have beliefs and stances 139 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: on things that not everyone on my side of the 140 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: ring agrees with. And I just want to say to 141 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: the world before I queue this in, I think that's okay. 142 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: The whole point behind a lot of anti diet ideology 143 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: is getting people out of the rigidity that diets promote. 144 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: But even in that, people become so black and white 145 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: in their anti diet nous, and I think people want 146 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: to be polarizing because it gets attention, and attention gets 147 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: us popularity, and the gray area just isn't really very sexy. 148 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: But the camp I sit in when it comes to 149 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: promoting healthy, sustainable, fruitful lifestyles is gray. And I just 150 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: really wanted to say that because I noticed myself becoming 151 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: super self conscious as I recorded this conversation, and I 152 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: don't get that way often when it comes to this subject, 153 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: and I think a part of that is coming from 154 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: a place of passion. I have a huge passion for 155 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: helping untie individuals out of diet culture. And at the 156 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: same time, I I may not agree and sound like 157 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: promote the exact same ideas that your favorite body positive 158 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: influencer is saying. I might go against some of that stuff. 159 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: And I think that our culture has such a tendency 160 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: to cancel people out when they say one thing that 161 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: you don't like. And I guess I'm now finally feeling 162 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: like the effects of that. And this isn't coming from 163 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: a place of I've had an experience where somebody has 164 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: said something to me. I think this is just something 165 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: internally I don't ever want to because I'm a human. 166 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to make people mad. I don't want 167 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: to upset anybody. But at the same time, and I 168 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: don't think I say anything in this episode that initiates 169 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: this even conversation. I just wanted to put this out 170 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: there because we all need to give people some grace 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: when it comes to their beliefs about what's healthy for 172 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: them and what is healthy. It's not all one size 173 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: fits all. Now, there are some things that are like 174 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: right and wrong. There are some, but not everything is 175 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: that way. So I don't ever want to shame somebody 176 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: for wanting to lose weight. I don't ever want to 177 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: shame someone for reaching for a diet. I want to 178 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: send the message that says it's okay to want that, 179 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: but we need to dig into the wise behind your want, 180 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: and when we do that, you may discover that it's 181 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: not the way you want to lose. It might be 182 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: the story that you have about yourself that the world 183 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: has helped you tie to your weight. So all in 184 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: that to say, I am pretty excited about this episode 185 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: because I do love talking about this stuff, and I 186 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: get jittery and excited and anxious in a good way 187 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: when I get to have these kinds of conversations. So 188 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: I want to thank Crystal for coming and having this 189 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: conversation with me. If you love what she's saying, or 190 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: if she sounds like somebody you want to talk to more, 191 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: you can reach out to her. You can follow her 192 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: at her eyes and underscore nutrition counseling, and I will 193 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: plug her stuff in the show notes for you guys. 194 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Thank you again Crystal for doing this, and I hope 195 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: you guys enjoy this conversation. And I also hope that 196 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: this year you do something different in your New Year's resolution. 197 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't look like a diet. It looks like you trying 198 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: to find the goodness that lives within you already. I 199 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: will talk to you guys again on Wednesday for couch Talks. 200 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Crystal. Hi, I'm Crystal. I'm here with Crystal again. 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: When were you here, like a couple of months ago. 202 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: She is a dietitian. She's amazing. She works in the 203 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: office next to mine. She loves hearing people compliment her 204 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: right in front of her um and I brought her 205 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: on because it is Monday, before the New Year, and 206 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: historically the new year has brought on an abundance, and 207 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: use that word, an abundance of humans wanting to change 208 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: their lives in the form of changing the way they 209 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: look in the form of dieting, and so I wanted 210 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: to talk with a real, live, registered dietitian who I trust, 211 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: which then in turn, you guys should trust to talk 212 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: about why this is, if there's pros and cons to it. 213 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: Let's look at it all from all angles, my approach 214 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: and my ideology when it comes to dieting, and it's 215 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: pretty black and white, like let's not do it. But 216 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: you don't have to trust me. You can trust something 217 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: that went to school for like twenty years for this, right, yes, 218 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: and the debt to prove it wonderful. Okay, So I 219 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: will say if you guys just want to like get 220 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: to know Crystal more before after you listen to this, 221 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: we did an episode on Body Image a couple of 222 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: months ago, so you can go back and listen to that. 223 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Crystal talks way more about her personal story and the 224 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: development of her as a dietitian and how she's developed 225 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: into the type of dietician she is. But before we 226 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: get into everything, can you for people who haven't listened 227 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: that yet and are choosing not to, will you tell 228 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: us how you would describe your approach to nutrition. Well, 229 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: my elevator speech, I guess to nutrition is food is 230 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: our friend, and all food is good food, and we 231 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: just a lot of times get far away from how 232 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: to be a normal eater. And so my approach is 233 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: being a normal eater and defining what normal is for 234 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: each person because it is unique. There's not a one 235 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: size fits all for normal eating. Yes, okay, that's a 236 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: better elevators, which is like, very true when it comes 237 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: to being a therapist, Like I think a lot of 238 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: people are like, what would you do with this kind 239 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: of client. It's like, this is what I might do, 240 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: but I can't tell you because I don't know their 241 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: history and we're all wired differently, and that's there's not 242 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: a one size fits all for therapy, just like there's 243 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: not for nutrition. And so I'm getting ahead of myself, 244 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: but that leads into one of the reasons why diets 245 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: can't and don't end up working. So okay, let's just 246 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: get down to it. We know the most popular resolution 247 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: historically has been to lose weight. I feel as though 248 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: this has transitioned in the last couple of years. It's 249 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: people wanting to go out for a lifestyle change. Yes, 250 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: the verbiage has changed, the freaking thing. The game is 251 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: the same that's from mcgruber that it's a movie. You 252 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: should watch it. It's a comedy. Um um. Okay, So 253 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: what do you here when people? I mean, because do 254 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: you have people that call you're not like, hey give 255 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: me a meal, pay, I'm trying to change my body, 256 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: change my life. Like, let's do you get a lot 257 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: of that? And how do you respond to that? I 258 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: get a lot of that, And then the response I 259 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: give is, let's look at your life from all angles 260 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: and what's maybe causing your weight to go up? Because behaviors, 261 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: in my opinion, are what, well in evidence um, behaviors 262 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: impact your weight and what your body does and how 263 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: your body responds. So if they're behaviors that are causing 264 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: your way to go up, then we need to focus 265 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: on those behaviors, not changing a number on a scale. 266 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: And initially potential clients hear me say that and they 267 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: get really discouraged because they're like, but no, I want 268 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: to quick fix. I want the number on the scale 269 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: to change. I don't want to change my behavior. And 270 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: that is really frustrating for people to hear. And so 271 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: that's my job is to help guide them to a 272 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 1: place where they are open because that's what's going to 273 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: cause lifelong change, like actual life style exactly. So we 274 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: can't be an emotional eater and think that our bodies 275 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: are going to then rapidly lose weight and try to 276 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: stay there. We have to work on the behavior. Yeah, 277 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: And so why do you think that is such a 278 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: popular goal moving into a new year? Why do you 279 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: think that's a number one resolution in America? You know, 280 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: I think it started like decades ago as just when 281 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: really fat diets were coming into their own, you know, 282 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: and that was kind of like in the fifties, sixties, 283 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: and they just kind of slowly became what they are today. 284 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: And so I think it started off as a novelty 285 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: sort of thing that our culture has just completely flipped into. 286 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: The new year signifies a reset, and the idea of 287 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: resetting your body is just not We've talked about that 288 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: before of you know, our bodies just don't have like 289 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: a switch that we flip and change a diet and 290 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: then everything falls into place. Um, but I think it's 291 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: the new Year's a rejuvenation and we want to detox 292 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: our bodies. Everybody's going on the whole thirty in January. 293 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: Can you speak to like what it means to detox 294 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: your body and if do we actually need that in 295 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: the new year. I think there's a lot of things 296 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: we can detox, like toxic people in our lives, toxic 297 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: jobs and environments, relationships, social media. You know, there's so 298 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: many things that drive us to think that we need 299 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: to physically detox our bodies. And when someone says I 300 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: need to detox my body, I think in their minds 301 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: they picture some really grotesque things happening in their bodies 302 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: that just aren't happening, especially to the level that maybe 303 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: they are thinking, and that might come from you know, 304 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: celebrity ease who are saying, like marketing products and so 305 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: they have to really create a fear around their own 306 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: body in order to get people to buy the products. 307 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: So they in their minds they have really distorted what's 308 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: actually happening. And so then it's this scramble to oh, 309 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: my gosh, I have to detox and strip everything to 310 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: reset my body. And if you understood how the body 311 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: actually worked, the idea of resetting is not a thing. 312 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: And your body from really, I mean the day you 313 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: are born and cut from that and biblical cord, everything 314 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: is working on its own it's working some in utero 315 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: as well, But I mean, your body doesn't stop detoxing itself, 316 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: and that's the power of your liver, and it's it's 317 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: your leverage job to do that. It's literally like a 318 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: skinny tea regimen exactly because really doing those types of 319 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: things strips the body of the nutrients it needs to 320 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: now truly detoxify itself. And I feel like I want 321 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: to be careful the way I say this, so I 322 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: might have to re say it, but I feel like 323 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: a lot of times when people are wanting to reset 324 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: or if they want to detox their body because they're 325 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: engaging in things that they think are in quotes bad 326 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: or wrong or not good for them. That goes back 327 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: to behaviors Like if I need to detox my body 328 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: from alcohol and process foods, it's not that you need 329 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: to detox your body from that because your body naturally 330 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: is like cleansing and working and doing all the things. 331 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: Maybe that your behaviors are to an extreme that if 332 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: you feel icky or not yourself because you're not caring 333 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: for yourself, well that makes sense. So anything in excess 334 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: is going to be harmful to your body. So so yes, 335 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: like the idea of resetting is maybe reset your behavior 336 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: by going back to like moderation or abstinence if you 337 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: absolutely need to abstain from drinking alcohol. But yes, it's 338 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: you do have to give your body a break from 339 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: fighting a fight. So, like you know, you mentioned alcohol. 340 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Alcohol is toxic to the liver and it kills liver cells. 341 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: But what's so cool about the liver is it can 342 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: regenerate itself. No other organ can do that. It can 343 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: regenerate itself. But in excess, alcohol can kill too many 344 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: cells at one time, and your liver starts creating scar tissue, 345 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: you know, and starts doing things that it's not really 346 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: meant to do. So but that's abuse. That's what we do. 347 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: So it's not that I need to detox, like you 348 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: need to just look at why you're doing the things 349 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: that you're right, right, If you're over consuming high sugar foods, 350 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: it's not the high sugar foods, it's the over consumption 351 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: of that's it. It's not the food, it's the over 352 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: consumption or the overuse or the excess of it. Yes, okay, cool, alright, 353 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: So I think that there is a push for people 354 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: to change your body change or life New Year knew 355 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: me think because of the messaging that the world sends 356 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: around just like, what's the ideal body? What what you 357 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: what you have and what you can get if you 358 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: have the ideal body? And if you think about ads 359 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: or Instagram posts or anything, it has historically been celebrated 360 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: that people that have it all and look like their 361 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: lives are going well look a very specific certain way. 362 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: And so I think a lot of times when people 363 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: are wanting to go into a diet in the New Year, 364 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: it's because I want that good life that is being 365 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: promoted on TV, and that body is a part of 366 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: that good life, and that body will get me that 367 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: good life. Not true, right, not true, but that is 368 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: what we're surrounded with. So I think that's one of 369 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: the reasons that people gravitate towards that. But specifically, why 370 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: do you think people go to fad diets to get 371 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: their needs met? Why do you think it's more attractive 372 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: to go to a fad diet than to go to 373 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: a dietitian and be like, hey, I want to make 374 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,239 Speaker 1: sure that I'm like healthy and everything's working well. The 375 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: people that they are comparing their bodies to, they might 376 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: be promoting something that got them that very quickly, when 377 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: in reality that person works out very consistently, their nutrition 378 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: is under control, they're not doing a whole lot of 379 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: things that are excessive, and they're promoting something that says, 380 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: I want these abs. I got this by taking this 381 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: supplement or I did this thing, you know, And so 382 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: it's giving that perception that a quick fix is possible. 383 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: But also our society is very on demand and we 384 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: need it now. Like I can get Amazon packages the 385 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: same day at this point, get in two hours. Yeah, 386 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: and like that's because that is how our culture is designed, 387 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: is that no longer are the days we get packages 388 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: four days later. And it's the same for our bodies. 389 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: It's I have to see a change right now, or 390 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: when I when they're working with me, if they're not 391 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: seeing pounds just drip off of them, then it's my fault. 392 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: It's the diet, it's the meal plan I put them on. 393 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: And what they don't realize is, and what they don't 394 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: hear me say, is that your body does not respond 395 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: well to rapid weight loss. So yeah, it's just, uh, 396 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: your body doesn't respond well to rapid weight loss. What 397 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: does that mean? Is that some people do and some 398 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: people don't. It means that it's possible for you to 399 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: lose rapid weight. I mean, diets prove it, they guarantee it. 400 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: You know, your money back, you know. But it's the 401 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: ability to keep it off and doing that extreme behavior 402 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: that got you that rapid weight loss. Your body doesn't 403 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: like that, and so same with you know, like our 404 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: clients with you who are severely restricting, they lose that weight, 405 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: but as soon as they start refeeding or eating normal 406 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: or eat something the way, it comes right back. Because 407 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: the body thought it was under threat the entire time. 408 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: It didn't know that you were doing this on purpose. 409 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: It went into a survival mode and it releases specific 410 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: hormones to you that it stands at the ready. It 411 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: checks your blood sugar all the time, and it's just like, 412 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: what the heck is They're trying to gauge what level 413 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: of threat it's at. And so as soon as you 414 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: your body figures out what's happening, it will slow the 415 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: rate of how fast your body burns calories or energy 416 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: in twenty four period. Okay, I need you because I 417 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people realize that. Here's what 418 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: we do know about diets of people who go on 419 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: diets gain the weight back plus most of the time more. 420 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: And this right here is why. Yes, especially the ones 421 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: that are yo yo are like chronic diet ors, so 422 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: they're constantly jumping from one diet to the next, So 423 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: they're constantly putting their body back and forth into crisis 424 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: and to survival, into over consumption, into stress. It's just 425 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: a lot of stress. So when it comes to fat 426 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: diets and these fast drastic diets, people have to be 427 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: on that diet or some form of diet or a 428 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: more extreme diet continuously to keep their body looking that 429 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: way because your body is it is trying to survive, 430 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: but eventually your body is like no more, and it 431 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: makes it harder for you to lose weight, you know, 432 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: which creates a lot of panic for people. They feel 433 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 1: very trapped in there this body that they can't lose 434 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: this last five pounds, or you know, working with women 435 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: in their forties, fifties, sixties, where they spent their entire 436 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: lives doing this and all of a sudden none of 437 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: it's working. That is full on panic mode, panic panic, 438 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: and so I have to get them to a place 439 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: of like getting their bodies to trust them again. And 440 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: it does that by really consistent eating eating habits. And 441 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 1: that's their minds are so wired too quick fix that 442 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: it's very hard for them to trust that process. Yeah, 443 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: because I think if somebody's eating minimally or restricting types 444 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: of foods for our whole entire lives, and that is 445 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: the way they are shown that they get results. One, 446 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: we have to look at why is that the result 447 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: you're you're desiring. Why is this body and this image 448 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: of this body the most important thing when you are 449 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: in fact keeping your body from basic nutrients and with 450 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: holding basic nutrients and things that you need to survive. 451 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Why is that more important than optimal health. That's one 452 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: side of it. But for our whole lives, we're being 453 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: taught that like, this is how you should eat to 454 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: get to be this way. We want you to look 455 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: at why do we need to be this way? But two, 456 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: if you're saying to them, hey, that's actually not going 457 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: to work for you. The way to get your body 458 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: to be consistent and find it's consistent stable weight where 459 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: you don't have to always worry about what you're eating, 460 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: what you're put in your mouth, how much you're exercising. 461 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: The way to get you there is to eat consistently 462 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: amounts of food that to some people are like, what, 463 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: I can't have that, no way, But that's diet culture talking. 464 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: That's you can't. But that's why you know when I say, 465 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: everyone has their own unique eating experience, but everyone needs 466 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: a little something different because we're not all genetically the same. 467 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: We know how the body is supposed to work, we 468 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: know what nutrients it requires minimally to function optimally, not surviving, 469 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: but to function and be thriving. And that's where the 470 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: individual work comes in. And when you look at diets, 471 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: what they are saying is there is one way for 472 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: everyone to eat. This is the right way, and everyone 473 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: will get the same result. Everyone's going to look like 474 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: this person here and the ad And the fact is 475 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: that is not the case. We are all genetically different, 476 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: we all require similar but different eating habits, and our 477 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: lifestyles are all different. So how can they actually say 478 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: that that one way of eating is the right way. 479 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people are in a constant 480 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: state of weight loss, the pursuit of weight loss. Everyone 481 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: if you just do a poll on the street, everyone 482 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: is either saying they need to lose weight. They're actively 483 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: losing weight, they're figuring out what next diet they're going 484 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: to be on. Nothing is ever good enough. They never 485 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: can lose the amount of weight they need to be satisfied. 486 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: And that's because of diet culture saying that everyone needs 487 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: to be losing weight, and first you have to detox 488 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: your body and then and then you get on this 489 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: diet well. And the things that are like the that 490 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: have the time stamps on them, like the thirty days 491 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: or the twenty one day fix or something like that, 492 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: like those are really confusing to me because what do 493 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: you do on day twenty two? Like, Okay, I'm gonna 494 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: start new year. Knew me, We're going on the twenty 495 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: one day whatever. Okay, then are you done at day 496 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: twenty Like what do you do? You go back to 497 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: what you used to be doing? To me, that's more 498 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: confusing to your body. Two questions. One, I want to 499 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: know we have enough education. There is enough research, and 500 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: there are enough podcasts and there's enough books about why 501 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: this doesn't work. So why are there still so many 502 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: people telling us that it is working? And why do 503 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: we believe it? Okay, I have a great answer money. 504 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: So okay, at the diet industry, billion trillion dollar industry, Okay, 505 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: they can afford the most amazing marketing teams, schematics scientists, 506 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: and they can afford to reach the people to get 507 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: that following. People are not going to order the journal 508 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: of what JAMMA, the Journal of American Medical Association or 509 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: with this, you know, like they're not going to order, 510 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: They're not going to seek out true evidence. They are 511 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: going to watch a commercial and they're going to read 512 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: a magazine. So diet culture is louder, much louder. They 513 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: have the money they pay celebrities who have the reach, 514 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: they invented influencers. You know, they are paying people to 515 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: market products on it. You know, like you know what's 516 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 1: so gross smart? Yeah, sure it's really smart, but also 517 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: it's like so gross because essentially what these things get 518 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: more money based on you buying into something that's never 519 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 1: going to work and you're going to keep on needing it, 520 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: which in the sense of like as a therapist or 521 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: a dietitian, I don't I can speak from myself. I 522 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: don't want to client to be my client for the 523 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: rest of their life. It's not not the goal. The 524 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: goal is to get them to a place where they 525 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: need me less, they want to see me less, or 526 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: they don't need to see me at all. Companies are 527 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: making money off of you not succeeding and being dependent 528 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: on them, while while we are in the business of 529 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: getting people to where they can be independent. Absolutely, so 530 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of the opposite. So like, yeah, the diet 531 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: culture is going to make more money, but what's going 532 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: to lead you to the goal that you actually have? 533 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: Because when people go on diets and when people look 534 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: for this ideal body image again, it goes back to 535 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: what are you really wanting? You want to feel happy, 536 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: you want to be satisfied, you want to be validated, 537 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: you want to you want to find affirmation, you want 538 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: to feel Everything comes back to I want to be 539 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: connected and I want to feel like I belong. So 540 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: we think if we look this way, then we'll belong 541 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: in this culture. But the culture is creating that in 542 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: order to make money off of you. That's like a 543 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: mind fuck, you know. It's like this whole diet culture 544 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: was created for you to need it and for you 545 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: to want to belong to it. It's called trust. It's 546 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: called to not trust experts like doctor you know, like 547 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: people are not trusting doctors, are not trusting dietitians. He's 548 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: not a doctor anymore. Uh, They're not trusting dietitians. They're 549 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: trusting the mom that's selling the sheikhs in the pyramid schemes. 550 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: You know, They're like, I've literally had people not believe me, 551 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: but leiaved their friend who is stay at home mom 552 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: but was taught about nutrition. Nothing I wish I was 553 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: a stay at home mom. Yes, but but she learned 554 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: her nutrition facts from the people that sell the shake, 555 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: so she can only answer questions that the answer leads 556 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: back to why they make that shake if you ask 557 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: any other nutrition question, which is I think one of 558 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: the best things that you've ever said to me and 559 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: talking about professionals, is are they selling you a product? 560 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Are they selling you supplements? Are they they're selling a 561 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: cupcake flavored breakfast protein shake. So, like, what you're saying 562 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: is if I can have cupcakes for breakfast, first of all, 563 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: you could, but like have a cupcake, don't trick yourself 564 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: into having a fake flavored shake that tastes like a 565 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: cupcake at breakfast time when I'd rather you eat a 566 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: whole meal. That's breakfast or just whole food. I don't 567 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: it could be a barbecue sandwich, don't even care, but 568 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: just a meal. But to think that to flavor things, 569 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: to taste like desserts that you can have at every meal, 570 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: how does that train your palette to want other foods? 571 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: Just training your palette to one that really? And I 572 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: think I've showed you just a person, you know, that 573 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: whole thing when she has they get kids involved and 574 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: they're teaching children to rely on shakes for optimal nutrition. 575 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: You can't actually absorb nutrients through food. You have to 576 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: have the shake, is what it says, which makes no sense, right, 577 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: But if you ask like how's that? How does the 578 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: body absorb those nutrients? Tell me they don't know? Right there, Oh, 579 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: well this product says that it's the most absorbable nutrient. 580 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: It's like, well, I thought, does that mean? What is? 581 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: Why is food not? What is the mechanisms that don't 582 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: allow your body to absorb nutrients? Because it's not. Your 583 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: guts not designed to absorb one of the nutrients and 584 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: every food you eat and that's for a reason because 585 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: it's too concentrated, as is a shape that's super concentrated 586 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: and causes more harm. Yeah, and you know it brings 587 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: you back to what you said about we are trained 588 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: to not trust doctors and educated people that are educated. 589 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: We're trying to trust people that have the flashy product 590 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: or the really extreme results. But what I think Kayla 591 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: Carson said this, um, I think on this podcast one 592 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: time that I repeated in my head all the time 593 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: is to get extreme results, you need extreme behaviors. And 594 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: what I know about extreme behaviors and me personally, is 595 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: they're not sustainable and they're usually not good for us. 596 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: And so I'm not sitting here saying that going to 597 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: see a dietitian isn't going to give you some kind 598 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: of result. You're not going to have a fast, extreme 599 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: result because that would require you to do something that 600 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: is probably unsafe and not good for how your body 601 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: was designed to work. And I think we talked about 602 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: this in in our the previous podcast. How at the 603 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: same time, not dietitians are not created equal, doctors are 604 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: not created equal. So you still can have because when 605 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: money is involved, people can compromise their own ethics and 606 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: evidence and what they know. That's scary to me, and 607 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: that's yes, and that's why you have to know that 608 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: the evidence can be altered. You have to know if 609 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: you can trust a person or not, which that's so scary, 610 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: that's frustrating. I think that I want this episode to 611 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: be more like motivating and inspiring rather than like bringing 612 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: on like sadness and like there's nobody in the world 613 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: you can trust. But yeah, but like it's the truth 614 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: is this isn't black or white, Like this is not 615 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: a black or white thing. But the truth is that 616 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: you can't just trust everything you see these days because 617 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: our culture is so motivated by results and money and business. 618 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: I can see I'm not the best businesswoman. I have 619 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: a lot of great ideas, but I'm not the best 620 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: business on because I'm not. My brain doesn't isn't motivated 621 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: by just money. It's motivated by other things. But our 622 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: culture is motivated by the American dream of like having 623 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: it all and doing it all and making all the 624 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: money and looking the part and not actually what really matters. 625 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: And when it comes down to, what really matters is 626 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: feeling connected to yourself and connected to other people, connected 627 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: to our bodies. I think that diets disconnect us from 628 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: our bodies. Well, yes, because you if you have to 629 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: ignore hunger or continued hunger. Maybe you ate your meal 630 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: that it recommended and then you're still hungry. You know, Yes, 631 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: it's if you have to spend a lot of time 632 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: in your head talking yourself down, that is a red 633 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: flag that this is not working for you. And you're right, 634 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: and Kayla love Her is so right that doing extreme 635 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: things is not sustainable, and not just from a behavior standpoint, 636 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: but your body can't handle it all the time. Your 637 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: body is incredible and it will persevere and at the 638 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: same time, it will do what it has to to 639 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: survive and things that you don't like well, And you know, 640 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: I think what people can get really down on is 641 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 1: I'm doing all the things and I'm following the plan 642 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: that this lady off of Facebook gave me, and I 643 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: added the extra supplement when this wasn't working, and I'm 644 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: doing this and I'm still not getting to the goal. 645 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: And it's because these programs weren't designed to really get 646 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: you to that place. These programs were designed to make money, 647 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: and these programs were designed to make things happen I 648 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 1: guess like fast for some people, but essentially I think 649 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: that they were designed for you to be the failure 650 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: and not them. Fad diets are faulty plants. It is 651 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: not you that it's failing. It is that it's diet 652 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: culture and diets in general. But what the message we 653 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 1: get is we're not doing enough, We're not doing right. 654 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,280 Speaker 1: There's something wrong with my body. So often it's like, 655 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, is like I can't get the 656 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: last ten pounds or something wrong with my body. My 657 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 1: metabolism doesn't work. And it's like, well, maybe it doesn't 658 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: work because you screwed it up with the diets. But 659 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: it's not you. It is the program that you are 660 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: following well. And also if there's a goal weight and 661 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: you're saying I can't lose the last ten pounds, it 662 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: might be because it's going to take really disordered eating 663 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: to get your body to do that, and your body 664 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: doesn't want to do that. When I can speak for 665 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: I will speak for myself. Where I got down to 666 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: a low weight for my body. Now, if you look 667 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 1: at the b M I ideal body weight, I had 668 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: not reached it yet, and I was in some extreme behaviors, 669 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: like some super extreme behaviors. But the thing that is 670 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: scary and why I even bring this up is I 671 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: had to revolve my life around what I was eating 672 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: and how much I was working out and like all 673 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: of that, and I couldn't drink like any of that 674 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: stuff to get there. My body was not just it 675 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: just wasn't designed to be that small. That doesn't mean 676 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: the other thing. It doesn't mean that because I weigh 677 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: this much more that I'm unhealthy because I'm not at 678 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: that ideal body weight that whatever book would say I'm 679 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: supposed to be at. It means that this is what 680 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: feels right to my body and this is where it 681 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: works the best. Right. But I think people don't see 682 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 1: that because they see it's at one size fits all, 683 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: that weight is healthy, that weight is bad, that waight 684 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: is healthy, that way is bad. And then we get 685 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: frustrated when we can't get to a healthy weight. But 686 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: we're already healthy, right, And yes, And that's where it's 687 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: like weight does not does not equate to health. Because 688 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: if you're a crash dieting to get to the weight 689 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: your doctor told you to get down to, or the 690 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: bm I skill says you're supposed to, that's not healthy 691 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: like that. You know, there's certain diets that are heart 692 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: disease promoting, inflammatory promoting, you know, but they'll get you 693 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: to lose weight very quickly. But like, if you stay 694 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: on that type of diet, you are more at risk 695 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: for developing heart does later. But no one tells you 696 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: that because what they tell you is do whatever it 697 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,879 Speaker 1: takes to get down to that that way, because that's 698 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: what's healthy. It doesn't matter how you get there. It's 699 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: really frustrating too, is and then we'll get to like 700 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: the other side of this. When people show on social 701 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: media like before and after and like, look, I lost 702 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: this much weight and blah blah, they're not showing you 703 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: what their life looked like to get there. They're not 704 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: showing you that they couldn't go to that party or 705 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: they couldn't have drinks with their friends after work, or 706 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: that they got up at four am to work out 707 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 1: and they went visioning or yeah, and that they're binging 708 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: at ten pm when they get home from work and 709 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 1: so then they go to the gym again at twelve am, 710 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: and like, they're not showing you that, and like, I 711 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: might be exaggerating, but sometimes that is the truth. But 712 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: they're not showing you the in between. They're showing you 713 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: a before and after, they're not showing you what actually happens. 714 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: And that's really frustrating to me because I could put 715 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: up it before and after and make it look like 716 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: it was the best thing to ever happened to me, 717 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: and the before in the middle of the before and 718 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: after of my end quotes, weight transformation when I had 719 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: an actual eating disorder was a living hell. Yeah. Now, 720 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: with all that being said, I think it's okay for 721 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: people want to want to make changes in the new year. 722 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: I think it's okay for us to be unhappy with 723 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: how we're living our lives and how we feel in 724 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: our bodies, and I think it's okay to want to 725 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: work on a relationship with our body and all of that. 726 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: So if fad diets aren't the answer to we're going 727 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: to take back the word lifestyle change. If that's not 728 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: the answer, what is the answer. I Mean, you talked 729 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: earlier about like let's look at behaviors, but how would 730 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: you in a nutshell? We're not going to give you 731 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 1: all of the details because you can call Crystal and 732 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: scheduled session, but like, how would you help somebody move 733 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: into a space that is really talking about healthy lifestyle? 734 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: Like wholesome changes. I think it starts with being incredibly 735 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: honest with yourself, you know, sty of what your secret 736 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: behaviors are, you know, looking and sometimes that's about journaling, 737 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: like I'm going to commit to figuring out who I 738 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: am and what my behaviors are because maybe you've never 739 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: like the word behavior maybe new, you know, Like when 740 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: I say that to some people, they're like, what is 741 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: the behavior? You know, because it's so very it's in 742 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: our daily language, you know, doing what we do. But 743 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: the idea of having a behavior doesn't compute for some people. 744 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: So even just exploring, like what do I do on 745 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: a daily basis that my body might not like right now, 746 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, like or even it's just starting with I 747 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: don't haven't I don't have energy, I'm constantly hungry, I 748 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,280 Speaker 1: snack a lot when I get home, Like there's anything 749 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,280 Speaker 1: are the behaviors that my body might really be craving 750 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: that I'm not engaging in? Because I wish that we 751 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: could rephrase a lot of the way we talk about 752 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: food and working out in exercise and movement in the 753 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: sense that like maybe in the new year, we want 754 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: to develop a more carrying and loving relationship with our 755 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,760 Speaker 1: body by treating it kindly by giving it more foods. 756 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: But I've been withholding more wholesome nutrition foods. I've been withholding. 757 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: Or I want to be able to enjoy cake, or 758 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: I want to be able to enjoy movement, like I 759 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 1: think those are really really great goals for the new year. 760 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: I want to be able to enjoy moving in a 761 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: way that is kind and respectful towards my body. I 762 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: want to learn and I want to develop habits around 763 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: food and nutrition that are really kind and respectful to 764 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: my body. And that is eating cake sometimes and eating 765 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: some oreos, and that also is putting broccoli on your 766 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: plate sometimes. Both of those things are helping you develop 767 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: a kind and respecting relationship with your body. A that 768 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: diet is mean, like it is a mean, unkind thing, 769 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,280 Speaker 1: and it is saying you are bad and you are wrong, 770 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna punish you, and then when we get 771 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: to the place, if we do get there, then I'll 772 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: reward you, and then I'll punish you again for rewarding you, 773 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,240 Speaker 1: because then it's going to undo what I've already done. 774 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: The term deadlining comes up, you know, it's when you 775 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: set those type of resolutions it's like, Okay, the deadline 776 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: is January one, everything changes and that means, Okay, I'm 777 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna have my diet ready to go. I'm gonna have 778 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: all like you get mentally prepared for that day. Same 779 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: thing with like the gym, Like Okay, I'm gonna start 780 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: going to the gym. Gym memberships surge the first month 781 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: in January. The gyms are packed, and then everything kind 782 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,719 Speaker 1: of starts dwin to link down, and it's the same 783 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: thing because it's deadlining. I'm deadlining these things. I'm setting 784 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: these unrealistic goals because I'm trying to fit my busy 785 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 1: lifestyle around exercise and this diet plan instead of figuring 786 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: out how nutrition fits into your current lifestyle. Because if 787 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: you have a very demanding job, if you have a family, 788 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: if you're in relationships, if you're doing certain things, that 789 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: is your lifestyle. So when you try to fit a 790 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: diet in the middle of the center of everything, it 791 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: doesn't work. So if you're at work and your diet 792 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: doesn't fit into your work schedule, that is not your 793 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: work schedules problem. It is your diets problem. And that's 794 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: when I have people come to me. We figure out 795 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 1: together how does nutrition work with your lifestyle, because it 796 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: might not be realistic for you to have lunch exactly 797 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: at twelve and get all these things in, you know, 798 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: or get those snacks and at those exact times. We 799 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: figure it out so that it's a little bit easier. 800 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: But but I think deadlining and setting those matter of 801 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: fact intentions is a setup and instead be having those 802 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: kind thoughts and being very open ended because as you 803 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: have an entire it's an entire lifetime, you know, really 804 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: to work on kindness and compassion and bringing in positive thoughts. 805 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: It's not deadline in January one, I'm going to start 806 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: saying five affirmations, just do it right now. Yeah, there's 807 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: no timeline because that's something we're just we always need 808 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 1: to be working on, no matter what if it's a 809 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: new year or not. So yeah, I like the idea 810 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: of like writing down your vision, like where what do 811 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: I want my life to look like? From food, my 812 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: relationship with food, my body. And let's be very honest 813 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,840 Speaker 1: with writing down what if you're still in that spot 814 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: where you're like, now I'm still going to do this diet, 815 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 1: like I'm still I still want this, Okay, write down 816 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: what you think this diet is going to do for 817 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,919 Speaker 1: you and how it's going to change your life. Write 818 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: it down, and then I want to see does that 819 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: actually happen. We call that going out and doing more research. 820 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: There's plenty of people that I have worked with and 821 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: work with and no in my personal life. We're great. 822 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: If you are not sold on the fact with even 823 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: with all the research and all the evidence, if diet 824 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: culture still has hold of you, okay, go out, write 825 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: down all your goals, Go do the thing and see 826 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: if it gets you those things. And why is this 827 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: diet different than previous diets? Is this one different? And 828 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: if you're a chronic diet or a crystal brought this 829 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: up when we were talking before we start recording. Is 830 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 1: when you are doing the same thing over and over 831 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: and over and over and over again expecting a different result. 832 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: We define that as insanity, Like that is insanity thinking 833 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: that this time it's going to be different, yet I'm 834 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: doing the same thing. What evidence, what facts, what data 835 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: do you have that you can come in and it 836 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: can support the fact that this is going to be 837 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: different this time. Be honest with yourself too, because we 838 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: are really good at lying to ourselves. To make ourselves 839 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: be able to believe something that we want to listen. 840 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: I wish that dieting could change our lives and make 841 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: our lives better because it sounds really easy. The fact 842 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: is it's not. It's not easy all on that to 843 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: be said, the reason that I even brought this up 844 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: is because I want people to write down what are 845 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: the things that I really want out of this diet? 846 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: What am I thinking it's going to do for me? 847 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 1: If you need to go do your research, go to 848 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: your research. I'm not co signing on dieting because I 849 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: don't just hear me out. But some people are just 850 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: going to do what they want. But then when it 851 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: comes down to it, are there other avenues that I 852 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: need to lean into to get those things? If I 853 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,720 Speaker 1: think it's going to get me a boyfriend or a husband, 854 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 1: or a girlfriend or a wife or what a partner, Okay, 855 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,320 Speaker 1: I have a lot of evidence to prove that somebody's 856 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: body shape isn't what got them to be in relationship 857 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: with somebody. If I want more confidence, okay, well you 858 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: do know that there's plenty of confident people that don't 859 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 1: have the same body of the girl that's on that 860 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: in Shape magazine at the grocery store. I want to 861 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,360 Speaker 1: land my dream job. Oh, it's actually illegal to hire 862 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 1: and not hire people based on what their body looks like. 863 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: All that to be said, I want you to look 864 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 1: at what are the things that you're out of life? 865 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: Is starving yourself and putting yourself in the cycle of abuse, 866 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: That's what diets really are. Is that going to get 867 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: you that? And are there other ways to get it? 868 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: Because if you've tried this before, let's look at the 869 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: other ways to get that. I'm all for learning to 870 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: have a better relationship with food in your body. I'm 871 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: all for that, but a diet, especially a fad diet, 872 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: is not the way to get that. Any final thoughts, 873 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: I think just going back to when I was saying, 874 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: being honest with yourself is it's I say that because 875 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: it's can be difficult because our thoughts are very crowded 876 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: with diet culture thoughts. And so when you're being really 877 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 1: honest with yourself, what do you do with those honest 878 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: thoughts and the next steps after you've figured out Okay, 879 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: if I'm being honest, this is what I'm doing, and 880 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do everything I can so I can 881 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: keep those things or not face them. Is what's the 882 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: next step for you to work through those behaviors that 883 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,919 Speaker 1: we talk about, you know or in a maybe they're 884 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: just cycling thoughts and food rules. You know, what is 885 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: it going to take to undo those things so that 886 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: you it makes room for that kindness, you know, because 887 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: sometimes those thoughts behaviors just block any positive thought that 888 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 1: could come in, and so that is sometimes it's getting 889 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: help finding the right resources, and I do also I 890 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,760 Speaker 1: want to close with we didn't talk entirely great amount 891 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: about this, but busting through all of this stuff, you 892 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 1: also have to bust through straight up the idea that 893 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: the body is what we're trying to attain and a 894 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 1: look is what we're trying to attain, and that is 895 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 1: a whole another podcast on body positivity versus body neutrality 896 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: versus body negativity. This is hard. This is really hard 897 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: because when we're asking you to look at behaviors and 898 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: we're asking you to really look at what you think 899 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: the body is going to give you and look at 900 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: those goals, you're also going to have to go through 901 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: a grieving process that the ideal body isn't really the 902 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: dream like we have to let go of that, right, Sorry, 903 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: I was just I was just imagine that I was 904 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: in a thought about what you know, we say ideal body, 905 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 1: Are you talking about our ideal body? Or is there 906 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: a body we're looking at this as that is second 907 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: the second one. So it's even recognizing that, like we 908 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: cannot all shove our bodies into a ideal mold, so 909 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: maybe our ideal we have to evaluate that. That's the 910 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: honest part. What feels good in your body eating the 911 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: cake when you want it, eating you know, like eating 912 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: more consistently throughout the day, even though the diets made 913 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 1: tell you different. You know, it's doing what feels good 914 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: and authentic to you and your Your ideal body comes 915 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: with those behavior changes, changing what the ideal body is. 916 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: Ideal body is that we all want to fit in. 917 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: What body shows up when you're able to live your 918 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: life optimally? Right? Well, thank you guys, and I hope 919 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: this was helpful. If you want to find Crystal, if 920 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: you think she sounds like somebody that you want to 921 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: talk to more, where can they find you? On Instagram 922 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 1: and your website? This is when you plug yourself. Yes, 923 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: I am on Instagram. It's horizon Underscore Nutrition Counseling, or 924 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: you can email info at Horizon Nutrition Counseling dot com. 925 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: Would you Yeah, and uh she's literally in the office 926 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 1: next to mine. So thank you for being here and 927 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: we'll have you again obviously. Happy New Year, guys. Uh, 928 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: let's reevaluate those, uh, those goals that we got out there. Yes, 929 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: Happy New Year, don't deadline