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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a gut wretching plea tonight

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Speaker 1: from a father desperate to find his daughter. Sixteen year

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Speaker 1: old Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: She has aspergers, and her family says she left with

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Speaker 1: a man she met online, who they believe is twice

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Speaker 1: her age. She has not been heard from since. I

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Speaker 1: don't think she realizes how much she's loved, but there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people out here that really want

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Speaker 1: her home. A teen girl goes missing and we learn

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Speaker 1: the worst. We learned that she has been held in

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Speaker 1: captivity in a cage for over a year. I want justice,

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Speaker 1: I mean see Grace. This is Crime Stories. Take a

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Speaker 1: listen to our friend Syriah Blake Morgan at wb TV.

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Speaker 1: Verywhere you look in this Valentine neighborhood, you'll see the

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Speaker 1: face of a girl who lives here until her parents

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Speaker 1: say she chose to lead. You can't understand how it

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Speaker 1: feels until you're in it. Philey's father, Anthony Byrne, says

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Speaker 1: his sixteen year old vanished from her bedroom Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: My wife opened the door and she was not there.

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Speaker 1: She left a diary behind that, Anthony says, detailed a

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Speaker 1: she met online. He gradually wormed his way into her

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Speaker 1: good graces. He coerced her to start listening to him

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Speaker 1: and not following our direction. How did it happen? How

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Speaker 1: for over a year, being denied food, being subjected to

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Speaker 1: water torture. Why? And in a stunning, stunning blow to

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Speaker 1: Lady Justice, the guy who makes off with her, Michael Wislovski,

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Speaker 1: is walking free. Let's start at the beginning. But I

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Speaker 1: want to introduce to you Helly, the victim in this case,

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Speaker 1: the teen girl mother, Shawna Burns and her father, Anthony Burns,

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Speaker 1: both joining us today, and I think I've got a

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Speaker 1: lot to learn from them. With me. Troy Slayton, renowned

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Speaker 1: California defense lawyer. Stephen Lampley detective. You can find him

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Speaker 1: at Stephen Lampley dot com, ellen Clorian Crime online dot com,

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Speaker 1: investigative reporter. Let's start with Halley's mother, Shauna Burns. Tell

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Speaker 1: me about the moment you discover, Helly, your little girl

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Speaker 1: couple of years older than my twins. And after studying

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Speaker 1: you once again I slept in their room last night

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Speaker 1: distraught about Haley, Seana. When did you realize Haley was gone?

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Speaker 1: I went in. It was a Monday morning, and I

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Speaker 1: went in to get her up for school. Haley went

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Speaker 1: it was about a two hour drive. So it's about

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Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning, so it was dark in

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Speaker 1: into her room and wait, wait, wait, So it's five

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Speaker 1: thirty in the morning. Okay, it has to still be

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Speaker 1: First of all, where is she normally at five thirty

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Speaker 1: all of the reasonable places that she could have moved

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Speaker 1: And after about a minute, I just got a visual

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Speaker 1: I've told a story a million times about when my

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Speaker 1: but ever since that, and because the nature of my business,

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Speaker 1: not run away. She was lured by an online predator.

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Speaker 1: And when your wife grabbed you by the shoulder out

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Speaker 1: Police are investigating, but Byrne says they don't have any

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Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. A teen girl suffering with

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Speaker 1: to Aerial Placincia WCNC Charlotte. The seventeen year old disappeared

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Speaker 1: In addition Detroit Slayton, Stephen Lampley, and Ellen Klauren Helely's parents,

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Speaker 1: Shawna and Anthony Burns. Anthony, you were just telling me

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Speaker 1: were in her phone was limited. Okay, white a minute?

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Speaker 1: White a minute? White a minute? Who waa white? White?

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Speaker 1: Jackie Howard here in the studio has this question, do

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Speaker 1: you believe that this guy, Michael Weiselovski was telling her

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00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: what to do to dress differently, to act differently. Yes,

431
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: we know he was absolutely, Yeah to Stephen Lampley detective

432
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: at Stephen Lampley dot com. When cops get a hold

433
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: of say a laptop, a phone, um or if they

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00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: don't get the phone, can't they subpoena the any activity

435
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: on those phones, on that iPad or a laptop, most

436
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: definitely And I have done that many many many times.

437
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: You you certainly can do You certainly can. Yes, So

438
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: Anthony and Shawna did she have a laptop or an iPad?

439
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: Know she did, but not that she communicated with him

440
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: on this And this is just side note. All of

441
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: the communications that happened between her and him happened at

442
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: school on her school cromepad that was issued by the pool.

443
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: They were stars both the time. But yeah, and we

444
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: have got like we've not discussed this part of it

445
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: because we don't like, we don't harbor any ill will

446
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: towards the school. But it is so the school gave

447
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: her a chrome pad. She had an i EP, which

448
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: is an Individualized education plan because she special needs. One

449
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: of those accommodations was she's never to be online unsupervised,

450
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: and yet she's still communicating with this grown man. She's

451
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: printing out pornographic images in the school library. Did this

452
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: They did not monitor it like it should. How did

453
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: this guy sign in? How my pro ana chap website?

454
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: It is a website for people that have anorexia that

455
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: don't want to hide it, that don't want to go

456
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: get help for it, that want to keep their anorexia

457
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: and are proud of it. And and the reason why

458
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: he said, did what white? Wait, I'm drinking out of

459
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: a fire hydrant here. It's just too much. It wants white.

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00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: She's in an anorexia chat room. And are you saying

461
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: that it's for people that are proud of being anteraxic. Yes,

462
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: it's for people that don't. They don't want to hide it.

463
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: It's pro anna, it's my pro anna. So it's pro anorexia.

464
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: Do they want to get well? Do they want to

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00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: get well? They don't see hold on, they don't see

466
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: anything problem. They don't see a problem with an anorexia,

467
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: and they don't feel like it. It's it's a life choice,

468
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: just like your sexuality is a life choice. They choose

469
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: to believe that their innorexia is a lifestyle choice and

470
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: that is their right to have. Can I tell you

471
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: something already? At school? And Lucy's in the fifth grade,

472
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: fifth grade, okay, there this started when she was ten,

473
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: or I found out about it when she was ten.

474
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: There is a group of girls, I call them in

475
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: a euphemistic way, the lettuce leaf bunch, get it bunch,

476
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: and all they eat at aged ten, I didn't even

477
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: know what a salad was at age ten. Okay, my

478
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: mom gave us vegetables every day, but not a salad.

479
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: What kid wants to eat a salad with? Like, we've

480
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: got a great on it. But anyway, all these little

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00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: girls eat, they have some lettuce on their plate. I said,

482
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: Lucy Lynch, do not do not. And then I pop

483
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: in when I can unannounced, to see what she's eating.

484
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: I know exactly what time they're having lunch. I don't

485
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: tell her. That's why I'm there. I go and go, Hi,

486
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: I love you, and leave, but I see her plate.

487
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: So anorexia can start very early, and this freak disperv

488
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: knows to go on like a girl's anorexic website chat

489
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: room Anthony Well, and if I could, I mean, it

490
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: wasn't that Hayley felt like she was anorexic. It was

491
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: that she didn't know what was wrong with her and

492
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: was trying to find discover through her own means and

493
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: self diagnosed so that she could change all the bad

494
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: things that kept happening to her. So she's out in

495
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: an anorexia support group trying to figure out if maybe

496
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: that has something to do with their problems, and then

497
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: she bumps into this guy who's in his thirties, who

498
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: has been in this chat room before and has met

499
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: other women, and has then taken advantage of that relationship

500
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: by saying he's a mentor that can help them, as

501
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: opposed to someone who is going to then take advantage

502
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: of them, which is what ultimately happened, not only in

503
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: my daughter's case, but in several others. Prime stories you have.

504
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, the seventeen year old, disappeared from her home

505
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: back on May twenty, twenty sixteen. Her family told us

506
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: then she has Asperger syndrome and left home without her medication.

507
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Last year, her family told NBC Charlotte they tried to

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00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: limit their daughter's use of the computer after discovering she

509
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: had been talking to strangers online. According to the Observer,

510
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: Burne's father said she left a diary behind that detailed

511
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: a plan to run away with a thirty two year

512
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: old man she met online. Her family says she did

513
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: not have a cell phone, but still they believe she

514
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: was able to communicate with someone and left to meet

515
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: that person with me right now. Shauna and Anthony Burns,

516
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: the mom and dad of Helly Troy Slayton, California, defense

517
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: lawyer Stephen Lampley detective at Stephen Lampley dot com. You

518
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: know ek Ellen Claurain crime online dot com. I remember

519
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: sitting down. I know you remember this too, with who

520
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: I now considered to be a friend, Alicia Kozlowski. I'm

521
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: sure I just butchered her last name. And she was

522
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: lured online at about age twelve thirteen out of her home.

523
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: The family was having this nice, big post Christmas dinner.

524
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: It was over the holiday, and she had been talking

525
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: to what she thought was another little girl online. Then

526
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: the little girl admitted, Hey, I'm really a boy. I

527
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: thought you wouldn't talk to me, blah blah, And they've

528
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: been talking for months and months. He goes, let's meet

529
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: come outside. I'm outside. She goes outside. She's immediately kidnapped

530
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: in a car by a grown man, held hostage, and

531
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: barely escaped with her life. My point is Eka They

532
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: also met in a chat room. So what can you

533
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: tell me, Ellen Klaurin, about how this complete pervert Michael

534
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: Wasilowski mates little Haley Burns. Well, this predator is on

535
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: a chat room that is frequented by young women who

536
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: are dealing with a vulnerable situation, and so he knows

537
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: exactly what he's doing. And as you point out, Nancy,

538
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: anyone can pretend to be anyone or be a certain

539
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: type of person when they're online. And this predator spent

540
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: a long time grooming Haley. And this was not something

541
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: that happened overnight. And I'm learning some new details from

542
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: Haley's parents about the fact that he has done this before,

543
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: which doesn't surprise me at all. But this predator knew

544
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: exactly what he was doing. He took advantage of a vulnerability,

545
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: and he kept communicating with her and tricked her into

546
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: believing that he would safe and he was her friends

547
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: and Stephen Lampley Detective Stephen Lampley dot com, we find

548
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: so many instances h kidnap and false imprisonment based on guys.

549
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: They're like wolves finding victims in chat rooms. I mean,

550
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: this is by far not the first case I've heard of.

551
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: Steve it's actually an epidemic. I spent a good amount

552
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: of time in the latter part of my career. I

553
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: know it's hard for you to imagine, but I was

554
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: a fourteen year old girl online and Nancy, I would okay, Yea,

555
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: that is that I didn't I'd expect that to come

556
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: out of your mouth when you said this is hard

557
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: for you to imagine. I was thinking when man to

558
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: find witnesses. I've been in every strip club in town,

559
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: every crack house, every dump, you name it. But when

560
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: you said I was a fourteen year fourteen year old girl,

561
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: I did not imagine that you got me, Stephen. But

562
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: I would get online and the chat rooms Nancy that

563
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: I get on were not sexually related that they were

564
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: generic chat rooms Nancy. And there were times I would

565
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: get on on the end the chat room and in

566
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: a span of less than thirty seconds, I would have

567
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: mine to twelve adults talking to me, knowing full well

568
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: that I was a juvenile because of my chat room name.

569
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: They readily recognized that as being a juvenil, and they

570
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: lashed on me in record time. Now, Anthony and Shawna,

571
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: I hate for you to even hear this, to think

572
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: your little girl. You were doing all this to protect her.

573
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: Then she goes to school where they give her a

574
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: chromebook and she meets this guy. I've learned that some

575
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: of the behavior that she was exhibiting, and you knew

576
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: something was way wrong. She was suddenly started using a

577
00:34:52,680 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: pacifier and calling somebody online daddy. Yes, I didn't know that, yep,

578
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Oh dear Lord, haven't, Oh dear Lord. I found a

579
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: lot of signs. But at the same time, you know,

580
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: she was in therapy, and the therapists were essentially saying

581
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: if she uses a pacifier, it's perhaps to help comfort her.

582
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: So I was watching the behavior and bringing it up,

583
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you know, wanted her to

584
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: feel okay to express herself as well. So tell me

585
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: when you first got any inkling where she was and

586
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: when you first heard the name Michael wi Slovsky Shanna.

587
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: It was on June twenty three, is about eight forty

588
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: seven at night. Tony and I had just sat down

589
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: to watch a movie and we had gotten Showmarch, which

590
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: is a local restaurant here in Charlotte, were just getting

591
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: ready to eat and I got a Facebook message from

592
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: a woman I did not know in Romania. And she said,

593
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: are you the mother of Haley Burns And I responded

594
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: back and I said yes, and she said I'm in

595
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: communication with her safe and she wants to come home,

596
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: to which we had been informed by the FBI to

597
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: be very careful because people will call you and say,

598
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: I know where your kid is, but you have to

599
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: give me money. Psychic people will try to take advantage

600
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: of you. So I was a lot more skeptical, let's say,

601
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: than Tony was. Tony was like, oh my god, it's

602
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: her they sent. She sent a picture of Haley, and

603
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Tony was like, that's definitely her. But I still needed

604
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: more I needed. I said, ask Hayley something that only

605
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Haley would know. And I have a dent in my

606
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: head from when I was hit in the head of

607
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: the hammer when I was a kid. Very few people

608
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: know that. And Haley said, tell my mom. She has

609
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: a big dent in her head from a hammer. And

610
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: that is what I knew immediately, that is my daughter.

611
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: And it was like an old fashioned game of telephone

612
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: because Haley is chatting on a chat room with this

613
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: woman in Romania. The woman in Romania is on a

614
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: tablet with me face timing. I am on. I am

615
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: communicating with my voice to Tony who's on his phone

616
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: with Pete or agent contact, who, by the way, was

617
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: at Disney with his family on vacation when all of

618
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: this happened, and he stepped up in the middle of

619
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: everything and didn't We felt so bad, but he was

620
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: so happy to do it, even though he was on

621
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: vacation with his family at Disney. And then Pete was

622
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: on his phone with the detectives in Georgia, so every

623
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: question took five minutes to ask for them to ask Pete,

624
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: to ask Tony, to ask me, to ask her to

625
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: ask Hayley. So the process took a little longer than normal.

626
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: But after about fifteen minutes we had established that it

627
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: was Haley and we were then just trying to establish

628
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: where she was. But she did not know where she was.

629
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: She said, she said, I'm in a brick a two

630
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: story brick building in Georgia, and that's all we knew.

631
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Here is Alison Latto's WSOCTV lawrence reveal the level of

632
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: abuse Charlatein endured while being held captive in Georgia for

633
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: more than a year. The documents stay that Michael Weislovsky

634
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: can find Haley Burns enough stairs bedroom of his Duluth home,

635
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,320
Speaker 1: telling her that she would be arrested if she left.

636
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 1: Wisulovsky reportedly controlled every aspect of his seventeen year old

637
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: captive's life, keeping a food journal detailing how many calories

638
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: she'd eaten each day, and withholding food from Haley if

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Speaker 1: he thought she'd eaten too many calories the day before.

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Speaker 1: Doctors at the Atlanta Hospital who examined Haley after she

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Speaker 1: was rescued, determined she was suffering from malnutrition. According to Warrens,

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Speaker 1: Her parents told Channel nine she lost fifteen to twenty pounds.

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Speaker 1: Haileyburns disappeared from her Valentine home in May of twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: This past weekend, the FBI responded to a tip and

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Speaker 1: tracked her to a home in Georgia. Nancy Grace Crime

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Speaker 1: Stories signing off goodbye friend