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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Get Everything. So don Jesus Christ the praise Him.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys seen Righteous Gemstones Salvation of the West.

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Speaker 1: I had to plug in my headphones, so there's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be some weird reverb there for a second for people,

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Speaker 1: But we love us some Jesus and yeah, the Righteous Jimstones.

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Speaker 1: I watched the first season. I know that more has happened.

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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought the first season was good. I like, obviously, uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm a huge fan of a number of members

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Speaker 1: of the cast, including the guy from Workaholics and the

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Speaker 1: guy from The Big Lebowski, of whose names I have

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Speaker 1: completely forgotten, even though legitimate love and divine or divine

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Speaker 1: or whatever. And m John shit Goodman, John Goodman. Jesus,

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Speaker 1: I saw a man that looks John Goodman my whole childhood.

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Speaker 1: How did I do? Yeah? I saw someone who looked

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Speaker 1: so much like John Goodman yesterday and I walked up

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Speaker 1: to him and I was gonna say, IM just grateful

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Speaker 1: for your work. And I walked up and stopped because

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Speaker 1: it was not John Goodman. And I thought, this man,

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Speaker 1: this man must get this all the time. You he

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Speaker 1: knew he must have. I mean, you know the fun

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Speaker 1: thing about that is, if real John Goodman, if I

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Speaker 1: had a chance to walk up to him, I would

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Speaker 1: just walk up Tim and I would extend my hand

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Speaker 1: and I would ask him if he had any cocaine.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that movie with Denzel where he placed

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Speaker 1: Denzel's drug dealer and Denzel's like like the like Sully

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Speaker 1: the Pilot, but a drug addict, and it's there's I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the movie's name was, but there's a

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Speaker 1: pretty cool scene where John Goodman walks into a room

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Speaker 1: with a sack full of drugs to sympathy for the devil,

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Speaker 1: and it's it kind of rules. That's the movie itself

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Speaker 1: pretty forgettable. But John Goodman as like a coach dealer

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Speaker 1: was Let's watch it. I just rewatched movie just that scene. Okay, yeah, Cody,

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Speaker 1: alright I did. I did rewatch The Big Lebowski recently. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Still an absolutely perfect film in everywey We'll never have

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Speaker 1: notes um, John Goodman, it's a it's a an astonishing

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Speaker 1: crime that John Goodman didn't receive an Oscar for his

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Speaker 1: Jenny Oscars, because he is unbelievably talented. He's so good.

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Speaker 1: He's good in everything he does. Did you guys ever

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Speaker 1: watch that show Alpha House where he's like one of

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Speaker 1: a Republican senator with a bunch of other Republican senators

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Speaker 1: living in like a rental house in d C. He's

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Speaker 1: quite good in it. Yeah, it's very funny. It was

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Speaker 1: a lot funnier before, um, but he was very good

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Speaker 1: in it. Yeah. Yeah, was a real killer for anything

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Speaker 1: in that arena. Um, Robert, we're talking about entertainment, and

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Speaker 1: I took your advice, Katie, which exposing a series of penises. So, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is not my fault, right, this is not my fault.

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Speaker 1: It's a little it's a little bit your fa This

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Speaker 1: is your fault because I've been saying this for motherfucking years.

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Speaker 1: It was your choice to watch it and then pause

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Speaker 1: it on that scene when so mother were over, let

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Speaker 1: me explain to you. I was watching Patriot as you've been,

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Speaker 1: as you've been harassing me to do for weeks, and

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Speaker 1: of course after the first from the first episode, I

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Speaker 1: was hooked. It's very good, it's incredible, it's very very

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Speaker 1: h So I watched through like season. I literally stay

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Speaker 1: up the first night I start watching it, I stay

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Speaker 1: U until like eight in the morning, watching all of

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Speaker 1: season one, and then like I'm kind of I'm kind

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Speaker 1: the next day I was kind of hungover, get a

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Speaker 1: late start, have to pull a bunch of stumps out,

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Speaker 1: so I only make it through like an episode and

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Speaker 1: a half that night before I'm like, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: out my cont do all the all the all the

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Speaker 1: stuff so that I have some comforting sounds going on

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Speaker 1: I'll restart the episode when I come to watch again.

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Speaker 1: So the next day, so Be and her mom come

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Speaker 1: the farm. Everything's good, everything's nice, and then we sit

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Speaker 1: eat some Thai food together, hang out with you know,

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Speaker 1: all my my my friends, uh and chat. I decide

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Speaker 1: the movie Roar, which is a film from the nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventies where Tippy Hedron and her family get repeatedly mauled

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Speaker 1: by actual lions. None of it's fake. They're horribly injured.

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Speaker 1: because this we'll talk about. Let me finish the Patriot

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Speaker 1: And of course, when you are like me and you're

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Speaker 1: regularly taking trips over to Europe um and so they'll

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Speaker 1: at a series of urinals talking and it's just like

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff, like you know, important plot points

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Speaker 1: two they decided to do this scene from the perspective

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Speaker 1: of everybody's dick, so you actually like see the penises

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Speaker 1: of everybody in the scene. I was unaware this had

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Speaker 1: on screen just a bunch of strangers hogs. So that's

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for that. And Robert's texting, they

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Speaker 1: were our text thread this week about what we're going

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Speaker 1: how I traumaized Sophie's mother when I bear no responsibility

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Speaker 1: for this. Although that's just so funny because then my

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Speaker 1: Where they was the corporate dicks. Yeah, it was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make comments about circumcision. Yeah, your nay,

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Speaker 1: I apologize to Sophie's mother and Sophie's mother alone. But

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Speaker 1: but Robert, again, I reiterate years I've been telling you years.

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Speaker 1: on thick recently because I have shown give, I've gifted

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Speaker 1: this show to so many people, They've all been touched

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Speaker 1: where I've wanted to talk about things like jellyfish. There's

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Speaker 1: watch it. Um, it's definitely. When you start watching it

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Speaker 1: very enjoyable. I really like the male lead. Everybody. Everybody is.

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Speaker 1: It's filled with actors who are like initially kind of

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Speaker 1: So her and her husband and her kids, who were

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Speaker 1: Like take a breath and and focus on the things

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Speaker 1: that you can control. But I do think it's important

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Speaker 1: for us to acknowledge what's happening and continue to talk

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Speaker 1: about it, because that's truly the unfortunate only way that

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Speaker 1: it moves a needle in terms of electoral apology, and

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Speaker 1: be aware of who like can't actually do things, who

433
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Speaker 1: aren't right. It's not that I'm blaming people. I think

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Speaker 1: that I get it, and I almost I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to talk about it or tweet about it because I'd

436
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Speaker 1: rather I'd rather focus on the things that are right

437
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Speaker 1: in here in front of me that I can control.

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Speaker 1: That brings me happiness, because this brings me dread. But

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Speaker 1: what brings me even more dread personally is feeling that

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Speaker 1: no one else is seeing what's happening, you know, or

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Speaker 1: that we're get we're allowing politicians to take a pass.

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Speaker 1: We need to, we need we need them to to

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Speaker 1: listen to us. I don't know what that looks like.

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Speaker 1: We haven't. We certainly didn't sustain mass protests during Black

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Speaker 1: Lives Matter, you know, and and people were dying in

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Speaker 1: front of us, I mean people they kept going like

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Speaker 1: they did. The problem is that like the same people

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Speaker 1: who are fighting viciously to stop any kind of positive

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Speaker 1: movement on climate change, And the same people who are

450
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Speaker 1: fighting to turn back the tide of gay rights to

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Speaker 1: the point where now there's a popular discussion about like

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Speaker 1: whether or not we should reverse course on the existence

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Speaker 1: of gay marriage. Are the same people who were like

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Speaker 1: advocating vociferously to fund and and remove any chance of

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Speaker 1: accountability for the cops as they beat and murder people. Um.

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Speaker 1: Whereas it's like, if you were out in the street

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Speaker 1: protesting the cops, that's kind of all you were able

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Speaker 1: to do. And if you're trying to force positive change

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Speaker 1: on climate change, that's kind of a full time gig.

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Speaker 1: And like it's very frustrating because it's really easy to

461
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Speaker 1: be um a civilizational arsonist. All you have to do

462
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Speaker 1: is get on TV and yell at whatever we'll make

463
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: conservatives angry, or get on TV if you're liberal and

464
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Speaker 1: talk about how any of the suggestions for how to

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Speaker 1: make change aren't realistic and we need to move forward

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Speaker 1: with fossil fuel companies to find a solution together or whatever. Um.

467
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Speaker 1: And in either case, it's way easier to just kind

468
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Speaker 1: of punt the problem than it is to deal with it.

469
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Speaker 1: And if you're like it's if you're dealing if you're

470
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Speaker 1: trying to deal with the problem of creeping authoritarianism, which

471
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Speaker 1: is tied into climate change. But it's also kind of

472
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Speaker 1: a full time job to keep track of, like what

473
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Speaker 1: militia leaders are hanging out with, what Republican congressional candidates

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Speaker 1: are at rull congressman um And it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: full time gig to again deal try attempt to force

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Speaker 1: movement on climate change and all of these issues, these

477
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Speaker 1: problems are so complicated that like, if you're trying to

478
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Speaker 1: this is a problem we run into on it could

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Speaker 1: happen here that I still feel mixed about, Like we

480
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Speaker 1: have multiple members of full time staff, and I still

481
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: don't feel like we're giving good, full time coverage to

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Speaker 1: each of those things because they're so complicated. And the

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Speaker 1: question even of like how realistic what can be done

484
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Speaker 1: about climate change at this point, what changes can be

485
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Speaker 1: made um is really complicated, and you'll find experts who disagree.

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Speaker 1: There are people who are ecological experts that say any

487
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Speaker 1: window is already closed and like we're effectively fucked, and

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Speaker 1: there's experts that say, no, that's crazy. And there's a

489
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Speaker 1: whole bunch of things that can be done. We could

490
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Speaker 1: start doing them today. Um and even just trying to

491
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Speaker 1: parse out that single debate is a lot. There's a

492
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Speaker 1: lot happening. There's a lot happening. But also like you

493
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Speaker 1: don't know what are the unintended ramifications of a potential solution.

494
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Speaker 1: How does it impact ex community? How does it do that?

495
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Speaker 1: You know, jellyfish if you will, for those of us

496
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Speaker 1: who watch Patriot, that's right, No good, Cody, I don't know, Cody,

497
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Speaker 1: this is your showdy. I just want to say Showty again.

498
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Speaker 1: I know you did. I always thought that was one

499
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Speaker 1: of the cuter things you'll developed for your Showty official

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Speaker 1: name almost Cody. You remember you remember that fun time

501
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: back when we were both young and and you you

502
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: made that video about an app called chat Roulette where

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Speaker 1: people were That's how we most Penis. That's how Cody

504
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: and I met. Yeah that's true. I didn't know that.

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00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah we met, but like, yeah, they were emailing first

506
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: and our first video for Cracked, and then Dan O'Brien

507
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Speaker 1: I believe was like, hey introduced us to UH so

508
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Speaker 1: that I could make a video, a little clip for

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Speaker 1: his chat Roulette. That's when I became acquainted with because

510
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: it was like I was working as I just moved

511
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Speaker 1: on from intern to like part time employee, and Dan

512
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: sent me this video and was like, this guy, Cody,

513
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Speaker 1: I think is going to be a big part of

514
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Speaker 1: the site moving forward, still exists? Should you tell people that?

515
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Speaker 1: Probably not? Probably? Yeah, like many of the things we create,

516
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Speaker 1: would we be canceled? Um, I don't know the Cracked

517
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Speaker 1: players broken, so I don't even think it's still available anymore.

518
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Speaker 1: It's just about how if you go on chat Roulette,

519
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: you're bound to see constantly. Much like the show Patriot,

520
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: chat Roulette was an app where you were randomly matched

521
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Speaker 1: with another person around the world. You had no way

522
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Speaker 1: of knowing who that would still here, And the basic

523
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: idea behind chat Roulette was wouldn't it be neat if um,

524
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Speaker 1: you could just get connected to someone else in the world, uh,

525
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: and then maybe that would spawn interesting conversations. And what

526
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: actually happened is that fifty of the people on chat

527
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Speaker 1: Roulette would immediately show their penis to the other. That's

528
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Speaker 1: what happened. In retrospect, there were a lot of lessons

529
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Speaker 1: about what the Internet was going to be in the

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Speaker 1: future from chat Roulette. In retrospect, everything still works the

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Speaker 1: same way. Um, It's just it was pretty good. It

532
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Video Cody, How do I play this

533
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: for everybody? How do I play this for you guys?

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Speaker 1: I know the world wasn't actually simpler back then. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: The invasion of Iraq was still fairly fresh at that point,

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Speaker 1: just really four or five years old. Uh yeah, A

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Speaker 1: couple of different horrible wars were raging a lot of

538
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Speaker 1: the building. The tea party was kind of like in

539
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Speaker 1: its offering a lot of them. Play this song for you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Social trends that would be disasters where people were ignoring

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Speaker 1: climate change and mocking Al Gore for making a very

542
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Speaker 1: mild movie warning people about it. Um and in retrospect,

543
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: all of the problems that are now catastrophes were just

544
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: building in that period. But everything felt simple because we

545
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: were young and dumb and able to make funny chat

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00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: that was silly videos about whatever. Yeah, a little tune

547
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Speaker 1: to listen to this three minute song, but let's put

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Speaker 1: it on at the end for the people, most of

549
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: whom do not remember that chat roulette was ever a thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, pre omegel, Yeah, definitely pre way pre Omegel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah by like close to a decade, right, yeah, yeah, yes, yeah,

552
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: Michael still around. Yeah, I really don't think absolutely not.

553
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: I refuse to accept that it might still be alive,

554
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: although every now and then I'm reminded that DIG still exists,

555
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: and I'm just livid, but that I had any issue

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Speaker 1: with DIG. But it's no way. Uh yeah baby was

557
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: even uh speaking of chat Roulette, We'll be right back.

558
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: Unlike chat Roulette, which disappeared, did disappeared, but you know

559
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Speaker 1: what it lives on whenever you accidentally show your producer

560
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Speaker 1: and her mom a bunch of dudes penises from the

561
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Speaker 1: show Patriot because you fell asleep. The spirit way to

562
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Speaker 1: bring it back together everything we're back. We're talking about

563
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Speaker 1: good times, bad times, the fact that what are we

564
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Speaker 1: what are we gonna do here about this? About this

565
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Speaker 1: climate stuff, because it feels like an intractable kind of

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Speaker 1: problem alongside the people fighting vigorous doing stuff like there's

567
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: effectively a full abortion band just got pasted in Oklahoma. Um.

568
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 1: You are increasingly seeing conservatives rally around the idea of

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Speaker 1: criminalizing any contact between trans people or gay people and

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Speaker 1: and like kids. Particularly, It's starting in schools and with

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Speaker 1: with the banning of books. You're got this horrible war

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Speaker 1: unfolding in Ukraine with an act of probable genocide in

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Speaker 1: the suburb of Buka. Um, you've got uh, the authoritarian realignment,

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Speaker 1: with authoritarians on absolutely on both sides of this growing

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Speaker 1: kind of international block of of conflicting nations. UM. And uh, yes,

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Speaker 1: some ship's not great with with the climate. The Arctic

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Speaker 1: was seventy degrees hotter than it's ever been at this

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Speaker 1: time of year. Um, which also is bad. How much?

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Speaker 1: How many degrees? That's a lot of degree. It's a

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Speaker 1: real problem, Katie. It shouldn't be that much hotter than

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Speaker 1: it normally is or has ever been before. Um. So

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Speaker 1: like recycle is that kind of goal we're gonna get

583
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: knock out composts. Don't forget to call post planted tree

584
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: compost Republican legislators. That actually would make some progress. Um.

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Speaker 1: That that that might help stop cutting down trees, stop

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Speaker 1: depart dating down Republican. Okay, Yeah, Elon Musk is about

587
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: to help run Twitter. So that's gonna that's gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can do actually think and I think

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Speaker 1: it's President Biden is doing a really good job with this,

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Speaker 1: Joseph Robinette Biden. Well, yeah, you just so. He just

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Speaker 1: announced today. I'll just read his tweet verbatim. I love

592
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Speaker 1: I love verbating. Yeah, so I'm gonna verbate right now.

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Speaker 1: Verbath verbatim. We're all over bath batim, bit umpctimating. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what I was trying

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Speaker 1: to go for that. Um. I just signed an executive

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Speaker 1: order that directs federal agencies to continue doing everything in

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Speaker 1: their power to expand the quality and affordability of health coverage.

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00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: Knocked it out of the park. Good work, Joe, So

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Speaker 1: does that do? What's that gonna second? It's it's gonna

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Speaker 1: help direct them to continue to do everything in their

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Speaker 1: power to expand the quality and affordability of health coverage.

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Speaker 1: That's good. So health care has gotten cheaper over the

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Speaker 1: last few years, right, sure, why not? Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: they're They're gonna continue to do that. They're gonna so

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Speaker 1: he signed, he signed an executive order. Uh two, stays

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Speaker 1: the course. I guess right to to keep it. I can't.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, how spending in the US increased by four

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Speaker 1: point six percent in would you say? Okay, no, healthcare

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's still it's increasing at the rate it's

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Speaker 1: been increasing, so that's good. It's not increasing on an

611
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Speaker 1: unusual basis. Although the latest numbers I've got here are

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Speaker 1: from two thousand nineteen, so they who's to say pre pandemic.

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Speaker 1: There's that in culin co pay cap that just got

614
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: that is true. That is true, and that is true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just think it is co pays, which is well,

616
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Speaker 1: exactly everything. Everything always comes down to like blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: If you got yeah, like it's it's one of those things.

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Speaker 1: There's a there's an article I found on it that

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Speaker 1: describes it as like a path to affordability, which again

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Speaker 1: I'm not not to shoot like obviously when it comes

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Speaker 1: to things that like legislators are doing. This is one

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00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: of those things where I'm like, okay, so there are

623
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Speaker 1: some people who are making material like this, this, this

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Speaker 1: will have an impact on some people that is positive,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's good. I'm not gonna I'm not going

626
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Speaker 1: to shoot on it. But it is also worth noting,

627
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: like these are co pay caps, this is not stopping

628
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Speaker 1: the broader fundamental problem, which is that insulin, which should

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Speaker 1: be effectively free because of how cheap it is to produce.

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Speaker 1: UM is in instead expensive enough that people are dying

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Speaker 1: because they cannot afford it. And um, that's a fundamental

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Speaker 1: problem with how we view healthcare and we view like

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Speaker 1: the way capitalism should work. Um. On a moral level,

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Speaker 1: it's a problem with like the amount of suffering that

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Speaker 1: we are happy to allow to happen for for modest profitability. Um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: how much can we tolerate? Yeah, which again I'm not

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Speaker 1: again not shipping on the legislators who fought that this

638
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Speaker 1: was like a real slug match, but that that's part

639
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: of what as as good as it is that like

640
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: they made some progress on making insulin more affordable. The

641
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: fact that it was or is still because it hasn't

642
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: passed the Senate yet. Um, it was a fucking battle

643
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: in the house. Um, and now we're we're going to

644
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: see if it can pass the Senate. The fact that

645
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: like that's the level of fight that we're getting, or

646
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: like the level of fight we're getting to confirm. Um.

647
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: The current Supreme Court justice whose name I've spaced on,

648
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: um Jackson, Like we were talking about the like when

649
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: you when you look at what a level of fight

650
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: these things are which are both I think worth doing

651
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: within the context of the system we have. Capping insulin

652
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: cope is worth doing. Based on what I can tell

653
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: of this justice's record, seems like it will be a

654
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: positive having her on the Supreme Court. Not saying these

655
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: are not worth doing. But when you look at the

656
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: degree to which both of these things, which are in

657
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: the broad scheme of the problems facing us on a

658
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: global scale, pretty minor, right um, When you look at

659
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: what a fight that is, it makes me feel like, Okay, well,

660
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: how are we going to, for example, dramatically and very

661
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: quickly put an end to two carbon emissions. Well, we're not.

662
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: It's going to take people having their lives destroyed to

663
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: like literally destroyed. And meanwhile, we're looking at housing prices everywhere,

664
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: and it's not affordable to live and if you're living

665
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: in the mountains, you have to pay twelve thousand dollars

666
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: a year for fire insurance. Well, and and if you

667
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: if you as people's lives are just jroid by climate change,

668
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: their ability to agitate for action on climate change will

669
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: be hampered by the fact that they are homeless or

670
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: in severe desperation. And we are also in the process

671
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 1: of criminalizing houselessness to an increasing extent. And like where

672
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: I live in Portland, which has been seeing a surgeon houselessness,

673
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: the liberal local government is now pushing the idea of

674
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: forcing people into camps run by the National Guard, which

675
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: you're going to see more of all over the place.

676
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: Like the the solutions to this are not going to

677
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: come for voting, with voting for people, um, the solutions

678
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: to this are only going to come by massive collective action.

679
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: And that's a titanic struggle. I I I don't think

680
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: it's something that will be accomplished in three years, if

681
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: it ever is. Because now that said, I didn't think

682
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: the ship that happened in was going to happen. But

683
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: also we have to look at the reactions, like the

684
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: results of which was in the best case scenarios, some

685
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: cities had reforms and mild parts of their of their

686
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: justice system or or their policing system, and most places

687
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: did nothing. And now a lot of that is getting

688
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: pushed back. So uh yeah, that's kind of what I

689
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: mean with big pro to anyway. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

690
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna need some stuff's gonna need to get damaged

691
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: in a very a scale. And to a degree of

692
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I think organizing is a necessary

693
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: part of the solution. I don't think that um uh,

694
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: voting is going to solve these big problems. Which is

695
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: not to say that, like, you know, to the extent

696
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 1: that it allows you to do things like cap insulin copas.

697
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: If that happens, that's good. And I'm not gonna I'm

698
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: not one of those folks on the left who's gonna say, like,

699
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: don't bother voting, because there's things it does it can

700
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: help with. But it's like it's like I'm not going

701
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: to say that band aids aren't useful, but if you're

702
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: bleeding out from a cut in your femoral artery, a

703
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: band aid isn't going to solve the problem. Yeah, it's

704
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: just we're like, it's beneficial to keep putting like filling

705
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: the bucket with water, tossing that water overboard. Um, but

706
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: that's not going to do it. But like if you

707
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: can take, you know, take thirty minutes out of your

708
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: day to be like, yeah, let's get more of those

709
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: buckets out of here. Um but acknowledging that that's not

710
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: actually going to save the sinking ship. Yeah, m hmmm,

711
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: um yeah, but you know, uh, the agencies are going

712
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: to continue to uh do what they were doing right

713
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: in their power. It's like it's just like clearly like

714
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: it's one of those like mid it's mid term season,

715
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: like we're getting we're getting there. So like even now

716
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm seeing like a few Congress people start to be like,

717
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: by the way, we should have medicare for all right, Yeah,

718
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: it's that time of year where they trod out the slogans, Um,

719
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: it's hard because you're right, I mean, just both of them.

720
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: All politicians suck. These people aren't in there for the

721
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: right reasons. So the people that are can't do anything

722
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: because most of them are run by corporations blah blah blah.

723
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: But our window of opportunity is fast thinking, like we know,

724
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: we see that this they couldn't get shipped done and

725
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: and there's a big disillusionment like, um, what's the point?

726
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: And now Republicans are I mean, that's what it feels

727
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: like for people. They're all the same. I don't say

728
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: that there isn't a point. I'm saying that that's the

729
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: sentiment and that's what it feels like, and that's why

730
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose in a few months. I mean, it's

731
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with with that ship. Uh, we'll

732
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: see what happens with with that That's it's a dark

733
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: way of saying it. I I down there's a lot

734
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: of mobilization on the right for a lot of these

735
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: like culture war issues and things like that. But I

736
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: do I mean, I don't know, but I have you

737
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: have some sort of hope and uh, yeah, like there

738
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: are a lot there are a lot of people I think,

739
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: on the right now who are slowly realizing the things

740
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: that like we've been sort of pointing out, like especially

741
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: with like the rampant homophobia that has been amped up recently. Um,

742
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: I've seen I have seen people be like, wait, I

743
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: thought we were talking about this, Why are you Why

744
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: are we being like you're being like openly homophobic and

745
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 1: like patriolic now. Um. And I think that some people

746
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: are sort of realizing like, oh, this was always the here.

747
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: I do think that the true that sooner or later

748
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: things will be bad. We're talking about climate anyway, or

749
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: healthcare or gas prices there there there will hopefully be

750
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: a point where some of this division or we realize

751
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: that we need each other. Do you know what I mean?

752
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: Like where you start like saying falling down the pitfall

753
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: falls of like ways things have been distorted and you

754
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: see the common ground, like if we need each other,

755
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: they're to save this country from But also that has

756
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: to go along with the corollary that are not insignificant

757
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: chunk of this country would happily kill the entire world

758
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: in order to avoid admitting that they have been wrong

759
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: about some important things, and they are they are willing

760
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: to burn the country and plant down in order to

761
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: ensure that they never have to reevaluate the things that

762
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: they have been, that they have been that they believe.

763
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that there are fewer of those people then yeah,

764
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, it's gonna be fun. I don't

765
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: My feeling is that the Democratic Party has not done

766
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: a great job of anticipating the things that are going

767
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: to help them in the mid terms. Um, but it's

768
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 1: also like I don't know, uh, I don't know what's

769
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: going to happen here. A lot of folks are saying

770
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: that the polling looks like ship did in when the

771
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: Tea Party had a will blowout win. Um, oh yeah,

772
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's it could very well be a

773
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: complete disaster. It could be a real real cock up. Yeah,

774
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean we there could you know, get some more,

775
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: some more Taylor Green's up in there, uh and the

776
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: cruises in there for the rest of our lives. Um.

777
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: But I do I don't know. It is still early.

778
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: And I do think that the the sort of endgame

779
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: that like with like the dog whistling and the sort

780
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 1: of like the rhetorical games that have been played about

781
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: all these sort of issues. The UH mask is like

782
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: by design like being broadcast, and I think some people

783
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: really preferred the mask being on. Um. Yeah, And I

784
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: think we're gonna because some of the polling I'm seeing

785
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: suggests that like things are heading in the Republicans directions

786
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: for the mid terms, but not to an extent that's

787
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: out of line with what tends to happen in the

788
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: mid terms after a residential election for the opposition party.

789
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, that could actually be kind

790
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: of bad news because if they you know, take back

791
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: one of the one of the houses or one of

792
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: the chambers of Congress. Um. But they don't. Um, it's

793
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: not really a blowout. It's just kind of a normal,

794
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Like they're showing like a two percent lead overall something

795
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: like that, which is pretty in line. If that's accurate,

796
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: if they're not, if kind of the Republican support is

797
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: not being underestimated, which is always possible, Um, then that

798
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: that would be interesting that that might look really bad

799
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: for them actually, because that would show that like they

800
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: actually have absolutely hit their cap, that going so extreme

801
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: has hurt them. That like it doesn't do, it doesn't create.

802
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: They always talk about what kind of the thing that

803
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: we're looking to see. Is this going to be a

804
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: pretty normal thing for a mid term after an election

805
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: where the party that one the big election is tired

806
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: because you know, the kind of campaign promises have intersected

807
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: with reality. People are less motivated. Um, they don't get

808
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: their base out, but the party in opposition is all

809
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: riled up because they're the party in opposition and they've

810
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: lost control of the presidency, and so they make some gains.

811
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: If that's what we get out of the mid term

812
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: as opposed to like a two thousand ten tea party blowout, Um,

813
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: then that might suggest they have some real problems when

814
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: comes along, because that might suggest, oh, you guys have

815
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: you guys have peaked with this rhetoric can get you

816
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: and win. It's a presidential election, and there's more activation

817
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: of the base. Um. Of course that also assumes that,

818
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: like the hope would be the best case scenario than

819
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: would be that like Republicans have a win that's in

820
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: line with what tends to happen in mid terms after

821
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: an election. Um, that's not exceptional or crazy, big uh.

822
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: And then but it's spooks Democrats in power enough that

823
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: they actually start doing some more of the things that

824
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: are going to pick up actual support with their with

825
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: with the left and and with with regressives and stuff.

826
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: And you know if that proves to be a wise

827
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: elector Yeah, I don't have a ton of confidence with that.

828
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: It's just like the thing, like the one thing that

829
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: Democrats can't get enough of, like more than losing, it's

830
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: like not learning lessons. Yes, they just fucking they just

831
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: gobble up not learning very obvious lessons. So I don't

832
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: know if that's what happened. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna

833
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: need to where I guess we'll see some ship. Um,

834
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see some ship. Like I have no

835
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: idea how to tell, uh what's going to happen other

836
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: than that, like it's probably gonna overall be a win

837
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: for Republicans, but the question is like how how big

838
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: a deal is it going to be, um long term

839
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: or how it will effect us going forward? And yeah,

840
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's going to be your window here, babies,

841
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: Like that ship doesn't seem possible. Yeah yeah, um, I

842
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: mean yeah, it could just be like I don't know,

843
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: like Sarah Palin is gonna run again? Right, Well, that

844
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: was that not a was not that not a yuck?

845
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: Was that not? It started out as a yuck? And

846
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: then I think follow up like a few days later

847
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: it was like yeah, um yeah probably, but like but

848
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: like that's the kind of thing where it's like yeah, um,

849
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't I just don't think that, uh that is

850
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna fly. Yeah this this new this new new wave. Um,

851
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: we'll see. There's also there's some reasons for like there's

852
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: some dire ship happening, including the fact that, like according

853
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: to Gallup, at the end of Democrats led Republicans and

854
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: party identification by nine points um by the in the

855
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: beginning of it. By the end of the year, Republicans

856
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: were head by five, which is like the biggest swing

857
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: Gallop has ever recorded, and that UM, so that's bad. UM.

858
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: But also, what do you mean by party identification of

859
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: people identifying as people identifying to Gallop in a poll

860
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: as Democratic right? UM? And I found a good well,

861
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how, I'm not an expert on any

862
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: of this, but I found an analysis, UM that's pointing

863
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: out that, like, there's a couple of reasons to maybe

864
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: think that it will not go quite as well for

865
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: the Republicans as some people are suggesting. One of them

866
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: is just the fact that, like, UM, in the election,

867
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: House Democrats lost a bunch of seats to Republicans UM

868
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: that were the most vulnerable seats UM, which means that, like,

869
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: of the seats currently being battled, Democrats aren't defending nearly

870
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: as many seats in vulnerable districts, whereas House Republicans actually

871
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: have a lot of seats and districts where things are

872
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: more split that they have to defend. UM. Redistricting has

873
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: gone reasonably well for Democrats compared to like what people

874
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: were worried about. UM. And you know, in the Senate,

875
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: they're not defending a whole lot of seats that are

876
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: particularly vulnerable compared to what they were. So it's it's

877
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: it's possible, and it's one of those things. If this

878
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 1: actually is kind of like a slug match and it's

879
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: kind of hard to tell at the end of it

880
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: who's come out on top, that's a disaster for Republicans. UM,

881
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. I'm not I don't know again,

882
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: like we've been talking about, there's so much that's like

883
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: catastrophic these days that I'm just like trying not to

884
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: there's not there's like the I don't know. Uh, it

885
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like obsessing over the mid terms is any

886
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: better than obsessing over anything else we're in. We're in

887
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: pretty like if the mid terms go great, I'm still

888
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: not convinced that the primary catastrophic problems facing us as

889
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: a civilization we'll get fixed. But like, if the midterms

890
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: go real good for the Democrats, it's certainly means that

891
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: it's less likely things will be catastrophic, uh for almost

892
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: here on planet Earth, but not necessarily by enough to

893
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: really matter for most people, because I mean what will

894
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: matter is you know, the concept of the end of democracy.

895
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: But also if we do not take massive action on

896
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: climate change, UM, democracy will not survive the coming decades

897
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: of refugee influxes and in natural disasters, as we've seen

898
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: in a number of parts of the world already, which

899
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: is why the percentage of human beings living in authoritarian

900
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: regimes has like shot up by very like something thirty

901
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: or in the last um decade and change like it's

902
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: we're we're watching the dissolution of democracy on a global

903
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: scale in favor of authoritarianism. And there's positive signs and

904
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: that generally speaking, the fact that Ukraine has done so

905
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: much better than Russia in this war is potentially very

906
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: significant because whatever, there's a number of serious issues with

907
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian government, as there's with any government, but it

908
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: is a democracy. It is a functioning democracy um with

909
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: a with a rule of law, which is why like

910
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: the former president Portushenko got lost his election to Zelinsky

911
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: and had to flee the country because he had been

912
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: he was very extremely Ukraine is a function of Russia.

913
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: Russia is not I thought you were saying Russia. I

914
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 1: was like, no, you know, but I want to see

915
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: and one of the I mean part of why they've

916
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: been doing so well, I mean they've routed It was

917
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: not a retreat around Kiev, the level of documented Russian

918
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: armored armored losses outside of him alone, it's not not

919
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: a retreat, it's a route. It was a that is

920
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: a disaster militarily. UM. And you know, we'll see what

921
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: actually happens in the east now that that both sides

922
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: are able to kind of redeploy some forces. I think

923
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: that might benefit Ukraine more than it does Russia, because

924
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: the Russian forces that pulled away from Kiev suffered Titanic losses,

925
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: whereas the Ukrainian military seems to still be in pretty

926
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: good order. But part of why you're seeing Ukraine outperformed

927
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: Russia's so much. Obviously there's the factor of like Western weapons,

928
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: but Western weapons, as we have seen in a number

929
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: of conflicts so far, are only useful insofar as you

930
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: have functional battle doctrine and functional military leadership in order

931
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: to um enable functional resistance. We've been training them. There's

932
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 1: a yeah that that has not been a non factor

933
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: the US and NATO, but I think that is less

934
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: we have been. I think that is less of a

935
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: factor than the fact that Ukrainians developed through eight years

936
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:39,240
Speaker 1: of experience fighting a peer force. UM. Really significant and

937
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: and uh auto cathonic, you know, having arisen from within

938
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: the society battle doctrine that had not really had not

939
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: been tested before. I think, uh so that's I think

940
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: a major factor in what we're saying. And Mocker's yeah,

941
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: and that doesn't you know, that'll that'll to get you

942
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: so far. It's better to be smart than than it

943
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: is to be tough. UM. And what the Ukrainian military

944
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: did after was except number one, the reality of their situation,

945
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: which is they had just gotten a fucking pantst by

946
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: the Russian Army, some disastrous armored losses on behalf of

947
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: the Ukrainian military that looked like the ship you're seeing

948
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: the Russian supper right now. And it was because Ukraine

949
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: was a tremendously corrupt country, UM, with all of these

950
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: oligarchs who had terrible influence within not just the civil

951
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: society but within the military. UM. You had very corrupt

952
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: military leadership. You had very like a lot of you know,

953
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: military units whose parts had been sold off wholesale that

954
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 1: weren't actually ready to fight. UM. And Ukrainians, after kind

955
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: of fighting to retain a democracy, UM, voted in a

956
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: series of people who, for all of their flaws, made

957
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: some major reforms to the way the military functions and

958
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: who commanded it um that were extremely effective. And so

959
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I try not to. I'm really trying

960
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 1: not to be too much of a duomer. There is

961
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: there are signs that, like, it's not an insurmountable fight,

962
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: because one of the good things about authoritarians is that

963
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: they're bad at a lot of stuff. They're really good

964
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: at fucking up a bunch of different things at the

965
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: same time, UM, in a way that makes it hard

966
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: to deal with because you have to be a lot

967
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: more competent to fix the things they're fucking up, right, UM.

968
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: But they also when you when you're able to engage

969
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: them kind of directly, when you can stop sort of

970
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: fuxing around the edges of the fight and throw down

971
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: with them face to face, UM, they're not often nearly

972
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: as competent UH in a straight up fight as they

973
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: are in kind of this sort of insurgent arson cultural

974
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: ship that they that they've are very good at. UM.

975
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: And so I think that's kind of the struggle for

976
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,240
Speaker 1: the left UH and for the center in the coming years,

977
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: is to force these guys with like climate change is

978
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: to force them to stare the reality of it in

979
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: the face and then hit them in the face repeatedly,

980
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: like not not not battle around the edges of this ship,

981
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: but actually organize and get together to an extent that

982
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: we can, that we can that they that they're forced

983
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: to deal with this face to face um and there

984
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: are like signs for optimism. They're one of the things

985
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: that this is not specifically climate change related, but it

986
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: speaks to the potential of organization to solve these problems.

987
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: Is like when we had when Trump was like threatening

988
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: and we had that budget shut down and ship of

989
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: the government, the longest one in history. It got put

990
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: down because like the airline stewardess Is union was like, well,

991
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: we'll do a strike, We'll go on strike and then

992
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: you can't have planes, and like what are you gonna

993
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: do then? And they caved immediately. And if you actually

994
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: do get you know, that was one small example, but

995
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: it points to the potential of like if you actually

996
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: can get enough people and most people are broadly in

997
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: support of things like not having the climate collapse, if

998
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: you can actually manage to weld folks together long enough

999
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: to take some of these issues on head on. Um.

1000
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: Right wing resistance tends to not be able to actually

1001
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,959
Speaker 1: deal with it their best when everybody's distracted and unfocused

1002
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: in dealing with a million things, which is why they

1003
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: try to funk up a million things at once. Right. Um,

1004
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the genius in their tack, because

1005
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: if they can funk up enough things at once that

1006
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: everybody's focusing on a bunch of separate stuff, it's really

1007
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: hard to kind of get them to grips and actually

1008
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: get them locked into a fucking fist fight. If you

1009
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: can get them locked into a fist fight, they're probably

1010
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: going to lose the fist fight. It's just a matter

1011
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: of actually forcing that fight before they are able to

1012
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: crumble everything around you and you have nowhere to stand?

1013
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? That's where that's actually very well

1014
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, anyway, that's probably a podcast, right. It

1015
00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: certainly felt like a past um I would if I

1016
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: didn't mention that. In response to increased unionization, Howard Schultz

1017
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: says he's going to try to win back by doing

1018
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: Starbucks n f T S. Yes, you could have saved

1019
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: it for Thursday, and we can still we can talk

1020
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: about it a link on Thursday, but I feel like

1021
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 1: because I'm waiting, lou have you have you found more

1022
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: info on like what they're actually trying to do? Because

1023
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: I am desperate to learn what the real I don't

1024
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: know what. Uh it's just that Speechie gave but just

1025
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: Starbucks n f t s. So don't unionize for for

1026
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: all the good boys and girls, you do not. All right,

1027
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: that's it for us. We podcasted, We did it, We

1028
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: went on a journey. Thank you to Robert and Robert

1029
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: only for watching Patriot. Cody, you're no longer my friend.

1030
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: You are welcome. That is extreme. That's too fair. It's

1031
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: too far. It's too far with HR that I now

1032
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: have to have thanks to my experience with the show Patriot.

1033
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: How about the guy who plays the HR manager of Patriot.

1034
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: Oh he's so good, Oh my god. The episode in

1035
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: season two where they're all out drinking, very funny, really

1036
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: quite an ensemble show. I've I've I enjoyed a lot,

1037
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: well we're going to sell a Patriot camaraderie. Yeah, and

1038
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: enjoyed the show Patriot, which ended like three years ago. Yea,

1039
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: all right, we'll be back next week. Bye. Everything Everything

1040
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