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Speaker 1: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs.

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Speaker 3: It is the return of the Players Lounge, brought to

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Speaker 3: you by Aristocrat Gaming. Come on in here, let's get

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Speaker 3: you some cowboy talk NFL talk.

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Speaker 2: With man Heck Mahars in the building. Yes, Sir, Heck.

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Speaker 3: Maharrison, the Golden Voice is here. We've got Tray Moore,

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Speaker 3: the Golden Boy in the house. Hall of Fame, Rocket

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Speaker 3: Bury Church, Sir Chocolate Drop. Hey man, what's the newie scrub?

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Speaker 2: I'm just asking what happened?

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Speaker 4: I saw the way like you don't have to have

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Speaker 4: a belt with your pants, the side joints that kind

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Speaker 4: of you know.

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Speaker 2: Side joint.

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Speaker 4: Se joint side okay, but very Church, you know Dash,

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Speaker 4: you are.

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Speaker 3: You gotta do what you gotta get with the hostess

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Speaker 3: with the you need to put a put a belt

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Speaker 3: in your car, just.

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Speaker 5: Leave, That's true.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Manos on the it's really decided.

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Speaker 6: You're talking back to the building decided this one just broke.

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Speaker 6: And what I said, what is this?

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Speaker 5: The eighties? The seventies?

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Speaker 6: Man, My granddad taught me that excellent. You always keep

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Speaker 6: a tying the belt. And you caught like, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: There was a time where you didn't walk around with

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Speaker 4: your pants hanging off. If your hands on the ground,

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Speaker 4: gona do that's on the ground. I gotta keep it

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Speaker 4: on you so big for that?

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Speaker 5: I am what he said, Hey, my belly, keep it up.

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Speaker 2: The cowboys got a coach just stopped. That's going up top.

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Speaker 4: The cowboys with coaches, the coaches?

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Speaker 5: What he get.

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Speaker 2: On the original? Right?

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Speaker 7: Brother, you want another show?

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Speaker 2: Look up by sixty hour? What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: High school?

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Speaker 2: Wait up in here?

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Speaker 6: Mann gety b't gonna care man, Man, you're looking good.

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Speaker 3: Cray l x us on that look one of the

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Speaker 3: original members saying.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna tell you you just missed your boys

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Speaker 2: saying he don't don't worry that. I saw you. You

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Speaker 2: know what you worry about. Listen, know what it was?

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Speaker 2: I want.

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Speaker 5: You, Hey, come on it. I just get hear that

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Speaker 5: he's booked.

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Speaker 2: I just came here to get somebody hard time about that.

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Speaker 2: What's something?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: Bring you down? I said, you your jacket on?

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Speaker 5: Check on your brother?

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Speaker 2: What the hell at all?

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Speaker 5: My boy?

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Speaker 2: Getting right? You know what? You running a marathons? Be

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Speaker 2: riding about? Hey, look at you about right.

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Speaker 3: I'm about bringing I'm about to step out because I

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Speaker 3: want this man to do all his work, right, I'm

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Speaker 3: gon step out. Well you enjoyed this second? No, I

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Speaker 3: just want to sit back and enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Listen, take you.

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Speaker 4: Get your pop listen ready, d is here with a

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Speaker 4: message which the breaks crushed out on her.

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Speaker 2: He only scratch out his stuff. You've seen that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's always shout? Is his what what you man?

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Speaker 4: That? Me and Church have been texting? Okay, of course

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Speaker 4: every year who's better Justin Herbert or Joe Burrow. It's

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Speaker 4: been going on for years.

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Speaker 2: That's yes, it is, it is, it is. It is

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Speaker 2: for who go ahead? Go ahead finishing? What're you about

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Speaker 2: to say?

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Speaker 4: Man? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They come up in here. This is what I know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Church, the other night you said, hey, man, if

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Speaker 4: Justin Herbert goes on the playoff run to the playoff run,

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Speaker 4: then it makes him have a better season than than

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow if he had went on the playoff roun.

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Speaker 4: Now two days later, I was the fifth we saw.

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Speaker 4: We saw justin Herbert go out there and he threw

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Speaker 4: four interceptions. What do you say, four of them in

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Speaker 4: the middle of that game. Yeah, because I was thinking

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Speaker 4: and I didn't I didn't hate you on the group

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Speaker 4: it got to a point because we all know how

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Speaker 4: low to the soul you are with Herbert. Did you

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Speaker 4: ever say at one point in that game, like, oh man,

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Speaker 4: this is garbage pale?

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Speaker 2: Now he was trash. It was hot trash.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I one thing about.

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Speaker 4: Myself, all right, y'all know y'all been on the show,

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Speaker 4: you knew. But I call it like I see it.

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Speaker 4: I call it like I see it. When when Dak

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Speaker 4: was out there tarsit, I caught it trash all right.

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Speaker 4: When McCarthy was getting the most out of his team

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Speaker 4: even though they was losing, I switched it up and

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Speaker 4: I said, hey, Mancarthy should be back here. You know,

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Speaker 4: even though I was on you earlier, said can be

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Speaker 4: back here? And what I saw on what day was

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Speaker 4: that Saturday Sun whatever game? It was, Yeah, forget the boy,

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Speaker 4: look hot trash. I'd be I can't.

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Speaker 5: He ain't.

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Speaker 2: I can't defend it. Man.

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Speaker 4: My man went out there, laid a disappointing egg, and

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Speaker 4: I ain't got nobody else to blame. Fourteen of thirty two,

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Speaker 4: y'all was bad. Fourteen or thirty two, four interceptions and

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Speaker 4: he picks one. He had one touchdown for four interceptions,

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Speaker 4: and the one tub was an amazing play by Dawn.

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Speaker 4: But conclely guy, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was bad. It was bad.

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Speaker 5: It was it was.

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Speaker 2: It was trash because I ain't gonna put it on

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Speaker 2: the coordinators like some people.

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Speaker 6: So like you said, you ain't gonna put it on

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Speaker 6: the coordinators, but you said that the one touchdown that

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Speaker 6: he did have that they iry not heeded but the

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Speaker 5: So technically you're saying that he was this guy. Your

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Speaker 5: guy didn't even he's not.

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Speaker 6: The reason he's not even the assistancally is to say, hey,

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Speaker 6: let me help you get in there, let me make

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Speaker 6: you better.

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Speaker 5: So he doesn't have a touchdown to his name. Was Okay,

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Speaker 5: I just want to put that out.

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Speaker 4: But my bigger issue is that even before that game,

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Speaker 4: I believe that Joe Burrow was the better quarterback he

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Speaker 4: has the facts. He Church said, no, yeah, he said,

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Speaker 4: you said the careers are pretty much identical. They are,

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Speaker 4: all right, So this is what we'll be doing now.

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Speaker 4: So we're saying statistically, are we saying team wise?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 4: Wow, everything, That's what I'm saying. No, because like, statistically,

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Speaker 4: the man years a great I'm talking about Burrow. We

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Speaker 4: didn't even make the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: They didn't make the playoffs. But it's a team sport.

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Speaker 6: If you're still putting up these numbers like okay, okay, so.

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Speaker 2: Y'all want to go to team no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna go the whole team route.

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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna say, when it comes to this game

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Speaker 6: in football, this ain't this ain't tracked, This ain't golf.

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Speaker 6: This ain't something where it's like, oh, completely solely this

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Speaker 6: all the stars can line. Obviously, you can have an

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Speaker 6: iconic gear statistically, but if your defense is not doing

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Speaker 6: that for whatever reason, it ain't going you gotta take

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Speaker 6: all that into consideration. You're gonna sit here and tell

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Speaker 6: me that there are certain guys like damn Marino, guys

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Speaker 6: like that that put up these astronomical numbers and never

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Speaker 6: won the Big Dance.

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Speaker 5: And that's that's accolade within itself.

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Speaker 6: So yes, when you want to say overall, comparing the

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Speaker 6: whole body of worker Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow, yes,

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Speaker 6: you do go with the stats.

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Speaker 5: But then after you go with the stats, what does

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Speaker 5: it go from there? Wins?

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Speaker 4: Can I go from the wins? Can I just give

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Speaker 4: the SATs then, so we have context on stats.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: Four thousand, nine hundred and eighteen yards, forty three tds

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Speaker 4: and nine interceptions. Get over to your guy, Justin Herbert

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Speaker 4: three thousand, three thousand, eight hundred and seventy yards twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand list yards.

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Speaker 4: And to your point when we talk about team versus stats,

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Speaker 4: you can even go back and look at the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl that he played in. Yes, outside of their offensive

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Speaker 4: line letting Aaron Donald come in there for that interception,

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Speaker 4: that ball was going to Jamar Chase wide open for

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Speaker 4: a touchdown.

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Speaker 5: Exactly.

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Speaker 2: That ain't Joe like. It's a team. So when you're

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Speaker 2: looking at hey, man, whose fault is this?

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Speaker 6: It ain't looking And that's what saying the most text

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Speaker 6: to this, could we add context to context police?

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Speaker 4: Who is Joe Burrow throwing the football to? Would you

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Speaker 4: consider t Higgins a top ten receiver in the National

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Speaker 4: Football League?

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Speaker 2: Now? Now Jessecki, Hey, would you say he's a nice

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Speaker 2: tight end?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going with this, keep going.

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Speaker 2: Who is Herbert throwing the football to? Who was he going?

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Speaker 5: I got I'm eight teammate, I got you? Who is

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Speaker 5: he doing?

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Speaker 6: A guy by the name of Keenan Allen. That was

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Speaker 6: we're not about talking about who said? He said overall

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Speaker 6: body of work. He was comparing and original to the

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Speaker 6: seasons he had. Okay, so hold on, are we this

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Speaker 6: just this one season? What are we doing the overall

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Speaker 6: body of don know? He said both.

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Speaker 5: I thought you so when you first came in, you

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Speaker 5: said overall we are?

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Speaker 4: But then I said he was saying even this year

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Speaker 4: that justin Herbert had been a better quarterback than Joe

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Speaker 4: Burrow in this season.

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Speaker 2: But then also.

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Speaker 4: Did not say Joe Burrow when he's on the phone,

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Speaker 4: I said, Joe Burrow had a better statistical year. Yes,

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Speaker 4: season wise, you gotta say Herbert had it, but because

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Speaker 4: he went to the playoffs, that that is that not

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Speaker 4: what I said, yeah, is that not what I said?

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Speaker 5: But I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: So have you changed your mind between the argument between

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Speaker 4: Burrow and Herbert and that we had this coma.

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Speaker 2: Didn't I say?

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Speaker 4: The difference is Burrow got the it factor whatever that is,

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Speaker 4: whatever that is, he has it and Herbert does not

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Speaker 4: have that in factor as of yet?

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Speaker 2: Did I say that last year? Can he get it?

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Speaker 5: He can?

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Speaker 4: I mean can get he can get it? About to

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Speaker 4: run it out of town? Your boy killing was there

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Speaker 4: when you was like killing is the guy.

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Speaker 5: Whit? I was white?

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Speaker 2: Trigger him.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna wait till he gets back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna wait till he gets you. Killing was

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Speaker 2: with him? Get him right, couldn't get him back, couldn't

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Speaker 6: And then on top of that, not even just with

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Speaker 5: Joe Burrow has been back. There was yeah, this game,

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Speaker 2: Water to wine.

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Speaker 5: So we so, what's Chase?

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Speaker 2: What's Higgins? If you're getting hit in the mouth Borrow?

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Speaker 2: Without elite talent on the outside.

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Speaker 5: Have we seen Joe Burrow with a complete offensive line?

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Speaker 4: No? No. The answer the answer is, have we ever

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Speaker 2: Our Yes, Joe Burrows have elite players on the out side.

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Speaker 2: Who was an Ohio State and you couldn't crack the lineup?

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Speaker 2: How many years did Joe Joe Burrow playing L? Two years?

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Speaker 4: Who was they were all on the team and he

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Speaker 2: But when he came here rookie year in Cincinnati, and

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Speaker 4: He get sacked almost everything, didn't too much, right, listen,

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Speaker 4: but then listen and that's what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: Everything.

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Speaker 5: Okay, off, you're not going to talk about the office line.

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Speaker 2: And asked this question.

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Speaker 4: I want one lesson how many yards did Conkly have?

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Speaker 4: Because you be you be on the dude like he

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Speaker 4: just straight up garbage. The dude was still putting up

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Speaker 4: some numbers, okay compared to others. Come on, bro, you

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Speaker 4: the dudes and he's playing and he playing ball. He

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Speaker 4: ain't Jamar Chase, He ain't even in.

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Speaker 5: The same stratas here as jam none of those.

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Speaker 2: Laugh. No, no, I'm not. No, he's good.

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Speaker 4: Whatever happens. I don't care who you don't have on

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Speaker 2: He was for you in there.

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Speaker 5: You can you through.

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Speaker 4: Fortunately, we've seen justin Herbert Foe in the big time moments.

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Speaker 4: No matter who we had that receiver, no matter who

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Speaker 2: and I believe you would too, I'm you're picking Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow over Justin Herbert to be to be your starting.

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Speaker 4: Quarterback, to be the starting quarterback if you had all

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Speaker 4: the weapons on it yet, No, just period?

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Speaker 2: Can't you starting with I can't say that because I

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Speaker 4: And Hurd he started the season on p U P

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Speaker 4: If you so? You just at that point, you just

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Speaker 4: had Jamar Chase winning games. Yeah, he was still playing well,

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Speaker 4: he was still playing well. Their defense, their defense was horrible.

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Speaker 4: You're still talking about the winning games. I'm talking about

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Speaker 4: You got right on different on nothing. If you didn't

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Speaker 4: know it, I got you. I'm trying to say, for

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter drive starting at the twenty Borrow eighty yards

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Speaker 4: to go?

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Speaker 2: Which quarterback is Joe's bad ass?

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Speaker 4: You gotta win this game? And that's let's say the house.

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Speaker 4: You got star receivers. Let's say you got star receivers

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Speaker 2: Let's just's say T. T.

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Speaker 4: Higgins and Jamar Chase are your receivers in that in

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Speaker 4: that in that moment he said they aren't? They are

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Speaker 4: are your receivers. I'm taking a quarterback, Joe Burrow, He's

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Speaker 4: got a connection with him. I'm taking Let's say see

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Speaker 4: what dk Metcalf are the outside receivers. Who are you

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Speaker 4: taking as a quarterback? Who's the whole line?

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Speaker 2: All right? Who's on what you mean?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna take hold on line.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the quarterback that has

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Speaker 6: guess what if I get an old line, he should

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Speaker 6: go astronomically up. He should be better. If he's one

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Speaker 6: throwing off your back foot, doing this and doing that,

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Speaker 6: why would you not take him? If you're an executive

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Speaker 6: you have on your suit right now. It comes down there,

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Speaker 6: mister Amir Khan talks to you and says, hey, mter Church,

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Speaker 6: I got you in Orlando Scandrick right here, right now,

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Speaker 6: I'm trying to pay the bag. Do I want the

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Speaker 6: a Cowboys guy, but he's not the guy around the least.

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Speaker 5: No disrespect to Orlando. Orlando has been a talented guy.

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Speaker 6: But I'm talking about we all know, let's just let's

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Speaker 6: let's be real, like both guys are talented within their

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Speaker 6: own respect. But I'm gonna take Barry Church. If Justin

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Speaker 6: is Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert are right here, You're

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Speaker 6: gonna take Joe Burrow, the guy that has the guy

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Speaker 5: Has Justin Herbert? Not yet? Not not yet?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna tell you, like, hold on, hold on,

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Speaker 6: you can't say you can't, can't you can't or don't

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Speaker 6: not yet, don't say nothing.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're acting. This is just he was hurt.

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Speaker 5: I just want you to the game.

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Speaker 4: I heard said he's not gonna get that and the

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Speaker 2: And the he't got excuse. Did I make to say

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Speaker 4: Did I make these excuses? Or did I say that

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Speaker 2: I didn't care.

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Speaker 4: You could, we could go any team, We could take

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Speaker 6: look at me right now? What am I doing right here?

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Speaker 5: Moving? How the church posting the gold post?

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Speaker 2: How is it? When we first started, asked me, you said,

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Speaker 2: All Right, un a man buy Cowboys safety Bury Church.

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Speaker 2: One of my guys is out man one of them.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Trey Moore, former Cowboy player, heck Maherrison. One year,

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Speaker 7: I'm newly Scruggs. So that guy we have.

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Speaker 2: Monday, I'm upset at you. Monday.

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Speaker 7: Leslie Fraser is going to come in here as.

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Speaker 6: The man.

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Speaker 5: Still another what he said, hold on killing killing? Is

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Speaker 5: this the players lounge?

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Speaker 2: Can we be real? This is the plass lounge.

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Speaker 6: So since this is the lounge, and you know how

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Speaker 6: it is when coaches get fired and you have new

464
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Speaker 6: guys coming in, everybody goes into their respective corner.

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Speaker 5: Hey, who you think they're gonna bring it? I would

466
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Speaker 5: like this guy. I would like this guy.

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Speaker 6: And some organizations are good with holding stuff to the

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Speaker 6: vest and then some organizations most you kind of know

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Speaker 6: who are the top two guys and they're guys that

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Speaker 6: they're just bringing in. Do you think Leslie Fraser is

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Speaker 6: just the guy that they're bringing in or do you

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Speaker 6: think that this is just being grilled a running rule effect?

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Speaker 5: So's allid question?

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Speaker 2: Uh, y'all want to understands.

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Speaker 5: You checked?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's.

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Speaker 7: Got to bring it to people according to the NFL.

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Speaker 7: So Robert supposed to.

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Speaker 2: Come in this week, what are we doing the stop exactly?

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Speaker 2: Then you got lets doing?

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Speaker 5: He couldn't go back.

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Speaker 2: First of all, what you couldn't do was go back to.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 6: Let's go yes, So back to what you were saying, Yes,

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Speaker 6: we have to Uh we have the running rule in effect.

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Speaker 6: You have and I'm not saying that they are the

487
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Speaker 6: running rules because there is rumors out there circulating about

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Speaker 6: Prime being out there, so that puts through.

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Speaker 4: But until he hasn't, until the interview, it doesn't, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't count exactly.

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Speaker 6: So now we have those two guys we have Leslie

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Speaker 6: and we have Robert Salo after that. In my opinion,

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Speaker 6: and I could be wrong, but like I said, this

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Speaker 6: is what we're doing in opinion based business.

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Speaker 5: Do you feel that the Cowboys kind of already have

496
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Speaker 5: their guy?

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Speaker 6: Like when you're bumping out these interviews back to back

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Speaker 6: like sporadically, how can you let the I guess the

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Speaker 6: interview moll over? How can you really sit there and say,

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Speaker 6: let me bask in this and vet out the right

501
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Speaker 6: situation When you have those interviews going back to back,

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Speaker 6: you haven't heard about a second talk and stuff isn't.

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Speaker 5: Linking out out there.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think they they.

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Speaker 5: Like I don't think nobody has their guys.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, if i'm you know the Salah, yes, it

507
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Speaker 2: was a check mark.

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Speaker 4: But in my opinion, it could be more of a

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Speaker 4: DC interview, like you know, both guys can come, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: both of both both guys coming here. We're doing the

511
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Speaker 4: head coaching, but you know, we really see you as

512
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Speaker 4: being a guy that can come in here and be

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Speaker 4: a defensive board.

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Speaker 6: My personal opinion, I just think it's a scattered thing

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Speaker 6: right now, because I really do, in my heart of hearts,

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Speaker 6: like you said, I think they were going to bring

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Speaker 6: Mike back. Why would you why would you block him

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Speaker 6: to do an interview with Chicago? And then all of

519
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Speaker 6: a sudden, now things fall apart, and now you're bringing

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Speaker 6: all these guys in. So now I think you're just

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Speaker 6: pulling people off the coaching tree of what sounds good.

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Speaker 6: So that's why I'm asking, like, where's the connection, where

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Speaker 6: there's the familiarity, because typically most of the coaches that

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Speaker 6: have been hired by the Cowboys have some type of

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Speaker 6: ties to the organization or somebody within there. So, unless

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Speaker 6: I'm all informed, does Leslie Fraser or Robert Sler have

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Speaker 6: deep ties to the Cowboys organization?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: And I think last year, if I mean five years

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Speaker 4: from from from now, I mean back, you wouldn't have

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Speaker 4: thought that Mike McCarthy, Mike McCarthy clearly didn't have any

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Speaker 4: ties to the Cowboys organization.

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Speaker 2: So that a move point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's one of those things where I just

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Speaker 4: feel like the negotiations between Mike McCarthy and Jerry Jones

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Speaker 4: broke down at some point and either the month and

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Speaker 4: I don't and please enlighten me, because I've been waiting

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Speaker 4: to get to the players Lounge to get the solid

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Speaker 4: black and white facts of what those numbers, possibly years

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Speaker 4: of what it could have been. But there was a

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Speaker 4: disconnect in between what the contract could be, whether it

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Speaker 4: was two years, whether it was three years, or Mike

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Speaker 4: was asking for five. There was a deadline, and then

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Speaker 4: obviously as negotiation goes on, it gets to a point

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Speaker 4: where it's it's like, we are not gonna get anything done.

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Speaker 3: I haven't flushed all of that out, but I will

547
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Speaker 3: tell you the bit that I have gotten was there

548
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Speaker 3: were a number of people in the building who were

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Speaker 3: ready to move on from Mike.

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Speaker 7: And the last I was told was.

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Speaker 3: President, owner and general manager was still in that corner

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Speaker 3: from Mike McCarthy. And then next day comes and we

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Speaker 3: hear there's not going to be a deal. I also

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Speaker 3: think and I don't think people are talking about this.

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Speaker 5: Enough, you know.

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Speaker 3: I think Mike McCarthy also like, you know, I'm good,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit around here do this. I'll put myself

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Speaker 3: out here. And we see he's got an interview already,

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Speaker 3: got interviewed by the Bears yesterday. The Saints are going

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Speaker 3: to talk to him. Mike McCarthy is not just some

561
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: bum coach, not at all. Twelve right, twelfth all time

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Speaker 3: and wins. He's won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Now, super bowls matter.

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Speaker 2: Brother's got prize. We can bring it up now. The

565
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Speaker 2: man has some pride. He does.

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Speaker 3: And I still go back into this other part where

567
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Speaker 3: I've talked to fans and we've said this on the show.

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Speaker 3: If you're bringing Mike McCarthy back, if it was just

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Speaker 3: three years, that means that eight years of Mike.

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Speaker 2: McCarthy a four year deal, you know, nine.

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Speaker 5: Five, that's ten years.

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Speaker 2: You did that with Jason Gamm Did you did that?

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Speaker 3: I don't think there was an appetite amongst the fan

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Speaker 3: base for that much of a tenure to have, you know,

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Speaker 3: basically two presidential administrations with my McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that was there.

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Speaker 3: But also I know there were enough people in the

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Speaker 3: building work here who have opinions that let the owner

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Speaker 3: know they felt that it was time to make a move.

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Speaker 3: And let's be honest, man, they brought him in here

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Speaker 3: for five years. You were no further down the road

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Speaker 3: than you were with Jason Geret. You weren't in terms

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Speaker 3: of overall of what you wanted half a decade guys,

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Speaker 3: and I like Mike. I like Mike half a decade.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: Where are you sitting at the way I look at

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Speaker 5: it is. I like Mike as a as a coach.

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Speaker 6: I love when as a player, when you can see

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Speaker 6: your team rally around your coaches, when they're avocately speaking

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Speaker 6: out about, hey we want this guy back.

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Speaker 5: We know, like, I can't help but think.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying Mike is a Dan Campbell because I'm

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Speaker 6: a little biased, but I can't help but think when

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Speaker 6: I was in Miami that last year, the year was trash,

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Speaker 6: but we won the last four games, and like to

596
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Speaker 6: have that energy where your team is saying, hey, we

597
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Speaker 6: want Dan Campbell, and then they didn't make him the

598
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Speaker 6: head coach the next year, go on to the Saints,

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Speaker 6: and it's something left. It's it's a disconnect. And so

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Speaker 6: as far as to get back to what you were saying,

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Speaker 6: I we're stacked right now, or when I say we

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Speaker 6: we're no better than like you said when we had

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Speaker 6: Jason Geregg now that Mike is there. But it's just

604
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Speaker 6: like in the league, some players are good, they're just

605
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Speaker 6: not good for that organization.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think that Mike. I don't.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say he wasn't good, but he wasn't

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Speaker 6: good for this organization. And you can tell about his

609
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Speaker 6: comments when he was getting ready to leave, like he

610
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Speaker 6: kind of already alluded, at least in my eyes, to

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Speaker 6: say when he was like, hey, he's talking to the

612
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Speaker 6: DC Zimmerman and saying this is some of the faults

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Speaker 6: that I had when I came in here. I tried

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Speaker 6: to make my scheme of justin do that and change

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Speaker 6: myself to where you can kind of tell like you're unhappy,

616
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Speaker 6: but you have to you have to make water. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you have to turn these grapes into line, like he

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Speaker 6: may do with the situation.

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Speaker 7: So the point, and I think we've talked about this before, was.

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Speaker 3: There was such a disappointment after the Green Bay loss

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Speaker 3: and then Jerry didn't extend him and put all the

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Speaker 3: coaches on one right.

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Speaker 5: That whole year was a whole year of tension.

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Speaker 3: The whole year that we looked at, well, if you

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Speaker 3: don't do this, you know, I'm gonna fire, which is

626
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Speaker 3: a bad I think that was a bad way to

627
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Speaker 3: do I don't think that was a strategy to do

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Speaker 3: business and.

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Speaker 4: I didn't take any of that of what you were

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Speaker 4: saying about Mike as a foreshadowing of how he felt

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Speaker 4: about the position. I believe that Mike was actually tailor

632
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Speaker 4: made for a position in which the front office is

633
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Speaker 4: going to make decisions for you. He comes from Green Bay,

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Speaker 4: he wasn't able to do any of those things. I

635
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Speaker 4: look at Mike and whether whoever was in the organization

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Speaker 4: that didn't like Mike. It got to the point where

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Speaker 4: it was just like, this is as good as this

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Speaker 4: going to get. And once we see as far as

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Speaker 4: we're going to go, and I don't think you can

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Speaker 4: get us over the hump because you've always said he

641
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: was bought in to do what get you over the hump.

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Speaker 4: And regardless of the players, you know, rallying around, not

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Speaker 4: quitting on them or whatever, this was as good as

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Speaker 4: it got. It. Maybe you were limited behind the scenes

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Speaker 4: with some of that. All right, My thinking is going

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Speaker 4: forward and you guys may be completely different in different

647
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Speaker 4: to this. I think the Cowboys need to hire the

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00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: next coach needs to coach the coaches.

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Speaker 2: Let us go to break.

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Speaker 7: As I said justin Herbert commercial, playing behind.

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Speaker 2: Us, my man, my man, to break.

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Speaker 5: They want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Everyone will tell you if they had twenty minutes with

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones, who they would recommend for the job. So

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Speaker 3: Generalman Jones. You get to say Jerry, this is who

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Speaker 3: I believe you should hire as the next head coach

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Speaker 2: Who is Man? Never that I say this, Never that

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Speaker 2: No interview anything like that. But there I go prime

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Speaker 2: on this one.

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Speaker 4: I oh, wow, shop stop, Okay, would you asked that

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Speaker 4: question again? He clearly didn't hear what you just ask him, thought,

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Speaker 4: what are you talking about? You got you recommend your

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Speaker 4: guy Man? How many do y'all Are y'all all on

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Speaker 4: the show with me?

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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, listen to what I'm saying. How many times

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Speaker 2: did I tell y'all that man does not make a

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Speaker 2: good head coach? How many times did I say that?

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Speaker 4: Sixteenth?

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Speaker 2: So, y'allus you on the coordinator. It's the first time

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Speaker 2: I said this. No, no, I have heard you say it.

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Speaker 4: But over the years, you you double down on the

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Speaker 4: fact that he's this boy genius and he could do

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Speaker 4: all these things offensively. And if that's the way that knew,

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Speaker 4: that's the way that the league is going, I would

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Speaker 4: have assumed you are.

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Speaker 2: You got the books and all that.

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Speaker 4: Every time we tight about Kevin, do I say he's

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Speaker 4: a I believe he's a great coordinator, right, But when you.

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Speaker 2: Come to the head coaching, what do I always say?

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Speaker 2: I'm off the boat.

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Speaker 4: I do not.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a motivator of man.

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Speaker 6: Weeks.

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Speaker 5: No, No, that is I I concur he's he likes

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Speaker 5: the joystick.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be like that.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: He's a he's a good officer coordinator. But when it

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Speaker 4: comes to head coach, you got to be more than that.

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Speaker 4: You got to be a motivator of men.

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Speaker 2: You got to be a leader.

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Speaker 4: And I said, I don't believe that's what he is.

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Speaker 4: And I've always said that from the jump. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 4: sorry I took you off the rails. You're saying prime, because.

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Speaker 6: I'll jump in because my answer is going to be

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Speaker 6: the same. With all the news, with the prime going on,

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Speaker 6: if I had twenty minutes with Jerry, I would look

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Speaker 6: at him just like Michael Irvin, the guy.

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Speaker 5: That is the Jerry whisper.

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Speaker 6: He kind of broke the news and shout out RG three,

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Speaker 6: who said it at first. He was the very first

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Speaker 6: guy that said, hey, look at this guy and what

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Speaker 6: he's been able to do for Boulder changing them not

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Speaker 6: obviously hadn't the win hasn't correlated. But like you said

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Speaker 6: earlier and alluded to a leader amongst men, somebody that

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Speaker 6: has done it at the highest level, that bodies everything

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Speaker 6: that you want to do. And like the best coaches,

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Speaker 6: especially right now, that are winning and the great ones

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Speaker 6: that I've been around, Pete Carroll, you guys like Tom

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Speaker 6: Kostman and stuff like that, these were leaders amongst men

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Speaker 6: that were able to connect to their locker room talk

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Speaker 6: to them. So with Dion, what he's gonna bring you

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Speaker 6: is he's gonna he's gonna bring in, in my opinion,

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Speaker 6: a Jimmy Johnson field that we haven't had in a while,

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Speaker 6: somebody that can actually talk to you, but you also

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Speaker 6: respect his opinion. It's not like you're gonna go in

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Speaker 6: there and bump Jerry and say, Jerry, we're not doing this.

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Speaker 6: But he has enough, Jenni said, quad to go in

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Speaker 6: there and be like, hey, Jay, this is prime, baby.

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Speaker 5: This is prime.

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Speaker 6: Let me do what I do and I'm gonna do

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Speaker 6: what we're gonna do and we're gonna get to win it.

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Speaker 6: But also not only are we gonna win, we're gonna

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Speaker 6: win in a fashionable cent And we all know that

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Speaker 6: when you win in a fashionable sense, that brings in dollars.

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Speaker 5: Jerry, and we know we've seen what you did.

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Speaker 6: The richest organization, the most profitable and valuable team in

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Speaker 6: the NFL, d Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Imagine what Prime can do to this economy.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys are already within their soulf Look what he did

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Speaker 6: to Boulder, and not only look what he did to

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Speaker 6: the economy, but look what he did to the men

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Speaker 6: and the people that he was able to recruit there.

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Speaker 5: You don't think you say you hire a Prime time

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Speaker 6: Hey, it's a new field in Dallas, that all the

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Speaker 6: free agents are gonna try to come over here, come playing.

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Speaker 6: And then you have a guy like Trevorn Diggs over

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Speaker 6: there that can learn from guys like him that can

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Speaker 6: motivate and not only motivate, but put the people around

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Speaker 6: he does. So that's why I think prom would be

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Speaker 5: Before you go.

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Speaker 2: Just want to make sure.

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Speaker 3: NFL dot Com reporting that the Cowboys have officially asked

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Speaker 5: So there you go.

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Speaker 7: Barry Church also.

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Speaker 2: I'm off the rope though when it comes to that,

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Speaker 2: I'm off the train. Tracks on that one from ed Warder.

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Speaker 3: An hour ago, he tweets out regarding Dion Sanders, I'm

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Speaker 3: being told that he would almost certainly accept if Jerry

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Speaker 3: Jones offers to make him the next Cowboys head coach,

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Speaker 3: and those around him are encouraging him to pursue it,

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Speaker 3: and that Jones is enamored.

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Speaker 2: With the idea.

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Speaker 3: So that is from a Hall of Fame reporter when

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Speaker 3: I started a Pro football Hall of Fame Edwarder, Now,

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Speaker 3: who are you going and who if you're talking to?

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Speaker 4: Jery tell So this is the difficult part about this

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Speaker 4: I think he is one of the best cornerbacks to

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Speaker 4: Seeing what he's done at Jackson State, I think that

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Speaker 4: his ministry is college football. I think that he is

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Speaker 4: the kind of change agent that get young men from

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Speaker 4: Deon Sanders. College football needs Deon Sanders. I'm not saying

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Speaker 4: teams as you saw this year with team like Penn State,

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Speaker 4: able to compete. But I just I feel like where

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Speaker 4: There's also the fact.

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Speaker 5: Who will be your guy.

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Speaker 4: So I'm saying the right hire is Aaron Glenn and Detroit,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Glenn is the proper is the proper coach because

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Speaker 2: He's going to be the guy.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna have to bring in a defensive coordinator, but

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Speaker 4: only are going to be leading the defense, but you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have to coach this entire team. You're gonna have

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Speaker 4: right hire would be an Aaron Glenn.

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Speaker 3: All right, I am right, there's number two. That would

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Speaker 3: be my number two choice. Yes, my number one choice.

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Speaker 3: And if I'm talking to Jerry Jones is a guy

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Speaker 3: that coached you and coached you. Rich Bisaci, oh Rich

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Speaker 3: Pachia is a leader of men. You need stand up

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Speaker 3: in front of the room and get people together. This

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Speaker 3: is not about This is not about a guy calling plays.

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Speaker 3: This is about a guy building a culture, telling everybody

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Speaker 3: this is what we need to do.

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Speaker 2: You go back and you look at the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: When they fired John Gruten very unexpectedly during the season,

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Speaker 3: that team went to the playoffs. They had an outstanding

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Speaker 3: playoff game against Cincinnati, who ended up going to Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: They lost that game. But Rich besides, and they have

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Speaker 3: been running in the muck ever since he left. John

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Speaker 3: Gruten didn't I mean they let Gruten go. Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 3: didn't work out, Antonio Pierce didn't work out. Rich Pasatchia

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Speaker 3: everywhere he has been there has been successful.

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Speaker 2: As followed.

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Speaker 3: I also go into this a special teams coach, where

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Speaker 3: you deal with everybody in the organization. Dick Vermeil, first

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Speaker 3: special teams coach ever in the NFL, won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick's first job in this league, special teams coach

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Speaker 3: won in Super Bowl. Bill Coward in the Pro Football

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame special teams coach John Harbaugh today, special

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Speaker 3: teams coach for a league with so many smart people,

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Speaker 3: how are we ignoring one of the most important coaching

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Speaker 3: positions of leadership where you got to get dudes to

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Speaker 3: buy in and do something trying to do all the time.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to apologize because honestly, I haven't even seen

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Speaker 6: no reports out there for coach Pasace.

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Speaker 5: That's my guy, Rich, shout out to him.

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Speaker 6: But to piggyback on to pick man boy, you came

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Speaker 6: left with that that was a great because what people

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Speaker 6: don't understand is, like, let's break it down, like the

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Speaker 6: first person that you're gonna have to see when you

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Speaker 6: walk into that room when you get drafted, what do

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Speaker 6: they do? It's the special team coach to ask you

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Speaker 6: do you feel like you could play this and that?

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Speaker 6: And as a special team coach, you have to you

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Speaker 6: deal with every single position, receivers, line, band d lineman,

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Speaker 6: old lineman, all that from what standpoint and you have

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Speaker 6: to evaluate them. And when I tell you, Rich, I've

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Speaker 6: seen coach VASACEI talk to the star player the team,

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Speaker 6: to the lowest gall on the team the same exact

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Speaker 6: way and said, hey, I will get you your transfer

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Speaker 6: paper if you can't do that, and everybody rallied about him.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't like, oh, he can't talk to me like that.

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Speaker 6: If he said something, everybody was like, okay, be quick,

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Speaker 6: I got a quick question. Your your opinion on Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 2: I would talk.

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Speaker 3: I would talk to Pete Carroll all day long because

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll has a program. If you are interested in

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Speaker 3: one day making Jason Witten your head coach, and you

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Speaker 3: want to bring Witten in with a Pete Carroll because

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll won't do it for long, I could see that.

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Speaker 3: But if you're trying to win right now, you need

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Speaker 3: a leader of men. Pete could be a leader of men.

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Speaker 3: But to me, I would go with a guy like

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Speaker 3: rich beside you. Oh, by the way, knows all that you.

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Speaker 3: He knows what this operation is and he's conducted. You

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Speaker 3: better understand what you deal because there were too many

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Speaker 3: times of Mike McCarthy like, what in the world going

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Speaker 3: wrong here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 3: He said there were prescottin one time He's like, I

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Speaker 3: don't even know why I'm here because he didn't know why, Like,

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Speaker 3: ain't nobody asking no question? Because I know you ain't

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Speaker 3: going for no answers were going to Jerry Rich could

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Speaker 3: understand it all right, Maharrison, dray Moore, He's very church scrutched.

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Speaker 7: Z chrisy.

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