WEBVTT - #663 Packers Unscripted: Busy times 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:10.600 Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.560 Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is my 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:15.840 partner in crime, West hod Kuwitz. We're coming to you 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.400 here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. I 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.400 want to get to reviewing the Packers preseason opener in 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:26.320 San Francisco in just a minute. But after we got 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:28.680 back from the West Coast, there was some big news 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.639 in practice on Sunday, And of course I'm talking about 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.479 the activation of three players, three fairly big name players 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.120 off of PUP who are now practicing with the team 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:41.720 for the first time since the start of training camp. 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:45.559 And that would be Elton Jenkins, Bobby Tonyon, and rookie 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:49.280 second round pick at wide receiver Christian Watson. Some really 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.520 good health news here for the Packers heading into preseason 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:54.920 week number two. I don't know if I've ever recalled 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.920 a time in which there was so much that happened 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.760 on a Sunday after a preseason Yeah, it was incredible, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.360 you know, it was such a you know, we talked 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.479 to Matt Lafleur before these practices, so he just got 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.520 asked the question, point blank, do you expect anybody back today, 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:11.560 and typically the answer to that is like, well, we're 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.720 not really sure, we'll see guys are still out or no. Uh. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.760 For him to actually go, yeah, we're gonna get back 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.800 Elton Jenkins, Robert Tonyan, and Christian Watson, I think all 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.919 the media collectively was like, we're not expect he Hello, 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.039 now the floor did cushion it? He said, listen, this 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.320 is the first step in the process. This doesn't mean 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.440 these guys are gonna be practicing a team. It doesn't matter. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.600 I mean, they're gonna be in these preseason games, but 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:40.000 it is an important step in for all three of them. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.959 It all had different meaning. Elton Jenkins, he's back on 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.120 the practice field within nine months of turing his a 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:49.920 c L a really incredible recovery for him and hoping 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.640 to continue to take those next steps back. Robert Tonyan, 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:54.600 it's an opportunity for him to make good on what 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.200 he felt could be, you know, kind of a prove 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.920 it year for him after resigning with the Packers. This year. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.000 I know one didn't exactly go how he wanted. Yeah, 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.840 but this is a guy that's still only a year 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:10.640 removed from eleven touchdown season and certainly from Christian Watson, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.680 the rookie second round pick, the guy that everyone has 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.880 so many aspirations for, so high on for him to 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.520 get back into the practice fold as well another critical 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.480 thing for his development. Yeah, as you mentioned, nobody's making 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:23.840 any promises as to whether these guys will get in 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.320 any preseason action or even if they'll necessarily be ready 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.720 for Week one, But the fact that they've been activated 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.680 at this point in the middle of August certainly puts 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:37.000 week one, which is September eleventh at Minnesota, certainly puts 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:38.799 week one on the table for all of them, which 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.440 is great news. And what we've seen in practice so far. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.680 For those who are wondering what is going on with 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.920 the offensive line with Jenkins being back, what we have 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.200 seen in in limited appearances so far is that Elton 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.080 Jenkins is working at right tackle with the number one 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.720 offensive line. So we will continue to watch that if 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.880 at some point here in training camp, assuming along the line, 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.320 he'll be getting in to the team reps the eleven 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.000 on eleven, we'll see where he's lining up, if he's 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:08.079 playing different spots or if he's locking in on one 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.640 particular position there. But with regard to Christian Watson, the 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.240 rookie wide receiver. That gives us a nice transition actually 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:20.120 into reviewing the preseason game in San Francisco, because two 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:26.040 rookie wide receivers um made some pretty spectacular plays but 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.480 also had their rookie moments in the in their first 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.400 game under the lights. And of course I'm talking about 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.200 the fourth round pick in Romeo Dobbs and also the 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:37.320 undrafted rookie Danny Davis out of Wisconsin. We saw Dobbs 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.440 haul in the thirty three yard touchdown on the fourth 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.400 and one early in the ballgame, but he also had 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.480 a drop when he was wide open on a crossing 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:54.160 pattern over the middle. Danny Davis makes a tremendous adjustment 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:56.960 and catch and then move after the catch to score 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.080 on a back shoulder throw from Jordans Of But then 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.400 later on he ends up in the red zone. He 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.880 gets called for lining up off sides on a fourth 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.200 down that essentially negates a fourth down conversion and the 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.920 Packers end up having to settle for a field goal. Try. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.280 So some up to ups and downs there from the 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:19.680 rookies at the wide receiver position, but certainly positive signs 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.680 that that when those lights turned on at Levi's stadium. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.000 It wasn't too big for those guests and it all 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.080 transitioned over. I mean, Samari two Ray had three catches 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.640 for forty some yards too. I mean these young guys 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.880 that the packers wanted to see development from and wanted 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.320 to see them carry over some of the things they've 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.600 done in practice. They were able to do that at 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.800 Levi's Stadium. Romeo Dobbs to be the first one to 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.240 catch a touchdown pass this preseason I thought was just 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.080 so poetic because he really, even going back to O 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.360 t a s this young man has sort of been 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.560 one of the highlights and watching him go through the 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:53.680 progressions and as he said, it's all about a steady, steady, 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.479 gradual process for him. He wants to be able to 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.840 make an impact as a rookie, but he understands where 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:01.960 he where his situ wation is and the uphill battle 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:05.000 he faces to accomplish that. But for a fourth round pick, 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.520 where it isn't always a given what you're getting once 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.560 you get into day three, this guy's really been able 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:12.560 to tune it up. I know he was kind of 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:14.559 devastated that he wasn't able to bring in that pass. 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.600 That out route that he caught looked like he caught, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.880 but he kind of rolled through it and then kind 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.120 of had it stolen away for an interception. There By 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:25.240 the really good play by the defender, but one that 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.159 that you know, Dobbs is kicking himself and he wasn't 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.200 able to hang onto Sam Wollmack, a good defensive back 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.080 and the guy that San Francisco is very high on, 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:34.719 made it really heads up play and had a really 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.400 nice game against Green Bay. But again, those are things 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.200 he's gonna have to learn from Danny Davis. I gotta say, Mike, 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.679 I understand that this lining up off sides, you cannot 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:46.440 do that, especially in that situation. But to make a 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.520 route adjustment, playing with you know, the backup, you know, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.599 kind of unit there and working with Jordan's love that 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.640 was next level. And and that's not the type of 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.520 stuff you typically see in preseason. And it's also important 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.560 to record. And I said, hey, we're gonna see a 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.040 lot of man coverage, We're gonna see a lot of 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.839 these type of looks. Well, I'm gonna take advantage of 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.440 it a little bit. Davis not only made their adjustment 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.479 on it, but then also being able to come back 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.480 for the ball and make the play just an incredible touchdown. Yeah, 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:16.960 absolutely well, those two touchdowns by both Dobbs and Davis 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.119 thrown by Jordan's Love. The stat line also has three 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.440 interceptions for Jordan's Love. It was certainly a performance he 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.560 played the entire first half, a performance in which he 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.640 had his ups and downs. But um, but to the 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.640 eye test, and it was confirmed by Matt Lafleur both 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.760 at halftime and after the game. The first two of 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.240 those three interceptions, it's really hard to put on the 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.760 young man at quarterback. The first one, it's in the 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.840 red zone. It's a slant pass to the tight end. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.400 Throw appears to be pretty much on target. Tyler Davis 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.520 can't bring it in and the deflection ends up going 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.840 for an interception you talked about. The one with Dobbs 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.560 along the sideline, also a third down play, if I 0:06:56.600 --> 0:07:01.800 recall correctly, Um, not any easy catch. Maybe the ball 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.239 could have been in a better spot, but Dobbs almost 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.880 is able to get it. Not a pass that that, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.920 in any normal circumstances going to get intercepted, except for 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.040 the way in which the play unfolded as the two 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.560 players went to the ground. The one that Jordan's Love, 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.400 of course is is is going to be kicking himself 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.920 about is the third interception. Um. Now, we heard from 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:28.040 Matt Lafleur afterward that two guys ran the wrong route 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.160 on the play and again this was another third down 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.320 excuse me, a little bit of a do or die 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.800 situation as far as that drive goes. Two guys ran 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.400 the wrong route. The only guy who was running the 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.480 correct route was a Maori Rogers, but he wasn't open. 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.800 Jordans Love tried to force it in there to him anyway, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.480 the pass was a little bit behind him. Um and uh, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.680 and ends up getting picked off by the cornerback. That 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.480 was That was the one that hurt, because I really 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.920 felt up until that moment that Jordan's Love had put 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.960 together statistic Acide had put together a pretty solid performance. 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:07.360 Now to his credit, after that interception on the throw 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.720 to Rogers, he came back directed the two minute drive 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.120 the back shoulder throw to Danny Davis. They end up 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:15.800 getting a touchdown before the half. So the bounce back, 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.760 the bounce back from what really was probably his worst 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.000 throw of the night was there for Jordan's love. But 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:26.720 on balance, overall, I thought we saw way more of 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.680 Jordan's love and what his capabilities are in this one 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.040 half of football than anything we saw last season in 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.840 his second year in the league. Yeah. I mean, whether 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.600 it was the two preseason games that start against Kansas City, 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.160 I said it, and I don't apologize for it. I said, 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.920 I want to see Jordan's love play fast and free. Yeah, 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.200 and whatever happens happens. It's a preseason game. People like 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.640 you want to actually see this young man actually played 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.280 the position because ultimately, when Tom Clements and Aaron Rodgers 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.720 and everybody goes back in that quarterback room, that's the 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.120 tape that you can coach off of. You can't coach 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.640 off of just five aren't out routes and stuff underneath. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:03.960 You need to allow him to play downfield a little bit, 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.280 and he did that in this game. The thing that 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.400 was most surprising to me, though, is that the most 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.600 erratic moments for him actually seemed to be just working 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.040 out into the flat. Uh. There were some plays there 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.400 that I think could have been made um and and 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.840 as you know, as you know, La Fleur said, I mean, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.720 some of these receivers need to make these catches too, 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.840 but that including on the interception that became an interception, 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.080 the ball wasn't exactly where you wanted it. The third one, 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.960 it's just dealing with adversity and and maybe if there's 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.200 one thing you could you know, put down the negative 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.160 for is well maybe that's just where you got to 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.959 just get out of the play, throw the ball away, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.920 whatever you gotta do. Yeah, la Fleur said. La Fleur said, uh, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.720 I believe. On Sunday, in his press conference before practice, 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:47.920 he said, that's just one where when a couple of 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.800 routes go haywire and the one guy who is running 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.920 the correct route is covered and it's not there. You 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.440 just have to go off schedule. You know, you can't 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:57.520 just throw the ball away from the pocket right because 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.319 you're going to risk the intentional grounding that makes everything worse. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.800 But go off schedule, get out of the pocket, try 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.160 to reconnect eye contact with the receivers to get into 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:09.839 the scramble drill and and maybe maybe something happens there. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.160 So that was that was the downfall there where he 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:16.160 forced it. But also I will say with regard to 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.360 Jordan's love, we've seen him and he's talked about it 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.480 at his locker with reporters. He doesn't want the tucket 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.960 and run to be the first instinct all the time. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.120 He wants he knows that he needs to stand in 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.560 the pocket and deliver the throws. And these are the 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:35.320 things that a young quarterback learns. Having that mindset in training, camping, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:39.400 in practice is definitely important for his development. You get 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.560 into the game situation, and there are going to be 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:46.000 situations where, yes, the extended play you know, the tucket 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.640 and run and and stay alive to fight another down 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.079 kind of thing has to be what takes over in 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:53.920 certain moments. And the only way you learn that is 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.080 just to play. You're not going to learn that on 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.240 the practice field, quite frankly, because you don't get sacked. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.240 You don't get it. You know, you're wearing the red jersey. 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.640 So and this is a young man now, he's only 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:09.080 in his career. He's only played three preseason games and 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.680 he's only played one and a half games of regular 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.320 season football. So there's still a long way to go 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.880 here for Jordan's love. But to me, I was I 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.880 was definitely encouraged by what I saw because we did 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.080 not see the same quarterback. We saw last year. No, No, 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.040 we saw what we've seen the quarterback that at intervals, 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.800 We've seen him play and be able to make plays downfield, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.800 and he certainly has the arm I thought this game, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.800 more than any other moment, really demonstrated his arm strength. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.400 Not just about fifty r bombs or thirty three yard 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.880 touchdown passes. I'm talking about just having some zing on 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.480 a pass across the middle. I mean that really impressed me. 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.040 And to be honest with him, Mike, something we don't 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.679 talk enough about Jordan's love now is gonna be able 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.920 to play and back to back games for the first time. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.760 He had the injury last year and was held out 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.080 of that game against Houston with the shoulder. So like 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.000 he's actually gonna be able to really build on this 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.920 and that's what I'm most looking forward to. Yeah, I 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.400 want to shift gears to defense. But a little bit 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.920 of sponsor business here. First to us serious x M 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.079 NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:11.840 minute NFL news that true football fanatics need seven three 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.640 six and had cousin subs. We have something for everyone, 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.760 like our Wisconsin Cheese Curds, mac and Cheese golden Fries 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.200 and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite sub or 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:25.480 sub in a bowl. Cousin subs fifty years of better. Alright, 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:30.439 on the defensive side, two big plays allowed for touchdowns 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.920 with some coverage. Bus those were black eyes for the 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:39.560 performance of this defense. Unfortunately, Um the guy the young 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.200 players that I thought stood out that sort of that 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.439 sort of jumped out in terms of their effort in 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.079 their production in this game. Four guys to me, Isaiah 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:54.079 McDuffie at line inside linebacker, Kingsley n Igbari at outside linebacker, 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.880 and then two young defensive lineman T. J. Slaton and 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.760 Jack Heflin. I thought those four young players who are 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.040 trying to work their way into whether it's roster spots, 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.199 potential playing time, all of that through this training camp, 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.680 I thought those four young men on the defensive side 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.600 of the ball all made a statement of sorts, giving 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.120 themselves something to continue to build on here the rest 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.160 of the preseason, because now it's not just about okay, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.760 here you have this game film. Now do you have 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.280 another one you could put alongside of it to show 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.000 that you're the same guy? And I think Bari is 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.240 probably the one that I was most excited about coming 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:31.600 out of this game. And he didn't draw a lot 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:33.520 of the headlines because one there were really a lot 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.120 of people there to write the headlines. It was just 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.400 us um. But I didn't catch him in the locker room, 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.000 so that's how that happens. No, but he got a 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.439 lot of pressure. I thought he pushed the pocket well, 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.360 and then he carried that over Monday. He had probably 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.880 his best practice in Green Bay. I mean evens or 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.560 was it Sunday, even as Sunday that he might have 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.680 had two or three sacks. And then Matt Lafleur, even 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:54.880 after a little bit of argument in the meeting room, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.720 admitted he might have had two sacks. He was he 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.520 was single handedly trying to wreck that two minute drill 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.640 by by Rodgers in the offense. So though I did 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:07.320 see in the locker room Rogers giving him the business 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.280 a little bit about like, hey, don't just don't assume 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:12.120 that those were gonna be sacks, kind of thing, like 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.440 from about halfway across the locker room, they were kind of, uh, 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.520 drawing in a friendly way, drawing back and forth a 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.960 little bit as to just how those plays might have 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.800 finished on the practice field. But anyway, the veteran quarterback, 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.000 the rookie pass rusher certainly making a connection. But that's 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.600 what you want to see from a fifth round pick 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.360 and being able to really learn and grow. He hadn't 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.040 had a lot of opportunities in O T A S 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.880 and the non contact stuff. He put the pads and 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.840 I think you're really seeing kind of player that he is. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.920 Defensive line wild me in this game. Because Devonte Wyatt 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.880 going through was being evalued for concussion, was not he 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:47.880 didn't practice going into the game. They held him out 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.600 even though he was back on the practice field on Sunday. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.160 That so that meant it was a lot of you know, 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.600 Chris Slayton, it was a lot of t J. Slayton, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.440 I mean. And then certainly Jack Heflin has been this 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.400 this workhorse for them, Uh that really shows up in 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.080 these preseason games. And yeah, those guys. Those guys played 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.320 a lot of snaps and they really I thought they 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.840 really bawled out all night long. For when you go 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.440 from getting maybe twelve or fifteen eleven on eleven reps 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.000 in a practice to suddenly you're playing thirty or forty 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:18.160 snaps in a preseason game. That's a big transition to make, 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.480 and yeah, they got tired in the fourth quarter, understandably so. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.880 But for the bulk the game, I thought the Packers 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.600 defensive front held up quite well. And Trace Sermon is 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.040 a legitimate running back. The Packers saw him as a 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.200 starter last season. I think he's a third round pick 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:32.840 coming into the league. I mean that that was a 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.440 good back that they were facing and then by then 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:37.680 being able to fill their gaps and do their assignments. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.080 That's where I thought opened up things for Isaiah McDuffie 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.240 and McDuffie showing that he is a tackling machine. It's 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.400 one six in college and he's doing it again in 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.600 these opportunities. Yeah, six tackles in twenty six snaps. That's 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:51.400 a That's that's pretty productive work there. Now, that's how 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:55.120 the defense is designed to work with regard to defending 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.840 the run. But I thought I thought McDuffie again a 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.640 guy he's now a second year player, looking a lot 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.360 different from the rookie who was sort of that barely 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.000 heard from sixth round pick out of Boston College last year. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.040 I know we're tight on time here today, but I 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.520 do want to just address one more thing before we go, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:13.400 and that is that we are about to head out 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.480 for the first of two joint practices against the New 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:22.320 Orleans Saints practices Tuesday and Wednesday, and then the preseason 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.040 game on Friday night at lambeau Field. Just quickly, what 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.520 are you keeping an eye on with regard to these 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.480 joint practices? Really? How the offense looks the number one 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.360 offense against the Saints number one defense. Saints actually have 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.600 a really good unit to Statistically, I think they were 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.280 even better than Green Bay in terms of the total 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.240 yardage last season and points. So it's not gonna be 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.360 any less of a challenge than what they faced the 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.720 last few weeks. But how do the rookie receivers respond 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.480 to that? You know, who steps up in this setting 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.280 and what kind of plays does Matt Laflour in this 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.520 offense want to get in? Then I also just want 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.240 to say, Gayer Alexander versus Michael Thomas is gonna be 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.760 a main storyline these next two days. Watching that battle, 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.960 watching the one on ones, I have to imagine it's 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.000 gonna be good on good there, and I know Jayre 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.119 is really excited about it. Yeah, I think if the 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.560 if the way things are set up on the practice 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.800 field is similar to the way it was against the 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.679 Jets in the joint practices last year. You'll probably be 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.239 watching the Packers number one offense. I'll be kind, you know, 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.159 with my eyes trained towards the other end of the 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.600 field and the number one defense. And yeah, I'm excited 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:29.440 to see, you know, because simply we didn't see last year. Uh, 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:33.600 Eric Stokes Jr. Alexander and Russell Douglass three cornerbacks on 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.719 the field together eight snaps in the playoff game. That 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.320 was it. And of course they you know, they weren't 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:43.120 playing in in the preseason opener. So as you said, 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.359 Michael Thomas, the Saints offense, the way this, uh, the 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:50.240 way this, this Packers cornerback group lines up against against 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.960 those guys and and uh and how that goes, that's 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:54.600 going to be I think fun to watch the next 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.359 couple of days. It's gonna be worth the price of 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:00.760 admission alone, which by the way, it's free, it's free. Absolute. Well. 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.000 I apologize for the short show today. We just happened 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:05.800 to be really tight on time because of all the 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.280 stuff going on with the Saints and the joint practice 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.520 fighting that was the issue you can just be honest 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.120 about you ran out of time in cash, but we'll 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.080 call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.359 Be sure to follow all of our coverage. Continue to 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.080 follow it on Packers dot com. We've got everything for you, 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.760 training camp, preseason games, all of it on the website 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.360 for West, I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:29.520 We'll see you next time.