1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford. He is my 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: partner in crime, West hod Kuwitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field and West. I 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: want to get to reviewing the Packers preseason opener in 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco in just a minute. But after we got 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: back from the West Coast, there was some big news 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: in practice on Sunday, And of course I'm talking about 9 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: the activation of three players, three fairly big name players 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: off of PUP who are now practicing with the team 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: for the first time since the start of training camp. 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: And that would be Elton Jenkins, Bobby Tonyon, and rookie 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: second round pick at wide receiver Christian Watson. Some really 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: good health news here for the Packers heading into preseason 15 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: week number two. I don't know if I've ever recalled 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: a time in which there was so much that happened 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: on a Sunday after a preseason Yeah, it was incredible, 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was such a you know, we talked 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: to Matt Lafleur before these practices, so he just got 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: asked the question, point blank, do you expect anybody back today, 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: and typically the answer to that is like, well, we're 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: not really sure, we'll see guys are still out or no. Uh. 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: For him to actually go, yeah, we're gonna get back 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: Elton Jenkins, Robert Tonyan, and Christian Watson, I think all 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 1: the media collectively was like, we're not expect he Hello, 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: now the floor did cushion it? He said, listen, this 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: is the first step in the process. This doesn't mean 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be practicing a team. It doesn't matter. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna be in these preseason games, but 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: it is an important step in for all three of them. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: It all had different meaning. Elton Jenkins, he's back on 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: the practice field within nine months of turing his a 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: c L a really incredible recovery for him and hoping 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: to continue to take those next steps back. Robert Tonyan, 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity for him to make good on what 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: he felt could be, you know, kind of a prove 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: it year for him after resigning with the Packers. This year. 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I know one didn't exactly go how he wanted. Yeah, 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: but this is a guy that's still only a year 40 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: removed from eleven touchdown season and certainly from Christian Watson, 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: the rookie second round pick, the guy that everyone has 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: so many aspirations for, so high on for him to 43 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: get back into the practice fold as well another critical 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: thing for his development. Yeah, as you mentioned, nobody's making 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: any promises as to whether these guys will get in 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: any preseason action or even if they'll necessarily be ready 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: for Week one, But the fact that they've been activated 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: at this point in the middle of August certainly puts 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: week one, which is September eleventh at Minnesota, certainly puts 50 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: week one on the table for all of them, which 51 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: is great news. And what we've seen in practice so far. 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: For those who are wondering what is going on with 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: the offensive line with Jenkins being back, what we have 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: seen in in limited appearances so far is that Elton 55 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: Jenkins is working at right tackle with the number one 56 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: offensive line. So we will continue to watch that if 57 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: at some point here in training camp, assuming along the line, 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: he'll be getting in to the team reps the eleven 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: on eleven, we'll see where he's lining up, if he's 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: playing different spots or if he's locking in on one 61 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: particular position there. But with regard to Christian Watson, the 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: rookie wide receiver. That gives us a nice transition actually 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: into reviewing the preseason game in San Francisco, because two 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: rookie wide receivers um made some pretty spectacular plays but 65 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: also had their rookie moments in the in their first 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: game under the lights. And of course I'm talking about 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: the fourth round pick in Romeo Dobbs and also the 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: undrafted rookie Danny Davis out of Wisconsin. We saw Dobbs 69 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: haul in the thirty three yard touchdown on the fourth 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: and one early in the ballgame, but he also had 71 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: a drop when he was wide open on a crossing 72 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: pattern over the middle. Danny Davis makes a tremendous adjustment 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: and catch and then move after the catch to score 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: on a back shoulder throw from Jordans Of But then 75 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: later on he ends up in the red zone. He 76 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: gets called for lining up off sides on a fourth 77 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: down that essentially negates a fourth down conversion and the 78 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Packers end up having to settle for a field goal. Try. 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: So some up to ups and downs there from the 80 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: rookies at the wide receiver position, but certainly positive signs 81 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: that that when those lights turned on at Levi's stadium. 82 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't too big for those guests and it all 83 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: transitioned over. I mean, Samari two Ray had three catches 84 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: for forty some yards too. I mean these young guys 85 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: that the packers wanted to see development from and wanted 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: to see them carry over some of the things they've 87 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: done in practice. They were able to do that at 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Levi's Stadium. Romeo Dobbs to be the first one to 89 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: catch a touchdown pass this preseason I thought was just 90 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: so poetic because he really, even going back to O 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: t a s this young man has sort of been 92 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: one of the highlights and watching him go through the 93 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: progressions and as he said, it's all about a steady, steady, 94 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: gradual process for him. He wants to be able to 95 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: make an impact as a rookie, but he understands where 96 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: he where his situ wation is and the uphill battle 97 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: he faces to accomplish that. But for a fourth round pick, 98 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: where it isn't always a given what you're getting once 99 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: you get into day three, this guy's really been able 100 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: to tune it up. I know he was kind of 101 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,559 Speaker 1: devastated that he wasn't able to bring in that pass. 102 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: That out route that he caught looked like he caught, 103 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: but he kind of rolled through it and then kind 104 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: of had it stolen away for an interception. There By 105 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: the really good play by the defender, but one that 106 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: that you know, Dobbs is kicking himself and he wasn't 107 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: able to hang onto Sam Wollmack, a good defensive back 108 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: and the guy that San Francisco is very high on, 109 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: made it really heads up play and had a really 110 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: nice game against Green Bay. But again, those are things 111 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to learn from Danny Davis. I gotta say, Mike, 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 1: I understand that this lining up off sides, you cannot 113 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: do that, especially in that situation. But to make a 114 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: route adjustment, playing with you know, the backup, you know, 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: kind of unit there and working with Jordan's love that 116 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: was next level. And and that's not the type of 117 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: stuff you typically see in preseason. And it's also important 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: to record. And I said, hey, we're gonna see a 119 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: lot of man coverage, We're gonna see a lot of 120 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: these type of looks. Well, I'm gonna take advantage of 121 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: it a little bit. Davis not only made their adjustment 122 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: on it, but then also being able to come back 123 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: for the ball and make the play just an incredible touchdown. Yeah, 124 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: absolutely well, those two touchdowns by both Dobbs and Davis 125 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,119 Speaker 1: thrown by Jordan's Love. The stat line also has three 126 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: interceptions for Jordan's Love. It was certainly a performance he 127 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: played the entire first half, a performance in which he 128 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: had his ups and downs. But um, but to the 129 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: eye test, and it was confirmed by Matt Lafleur both 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: at halftime and after the game. The first two of 131 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: those three interceptions, it's really hard to put on the 132 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: young man at quarterback. The first one, it's in the 133 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: red zone. It's a slant pass to the tight end. 134 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: Throw appears to be pretty much on target. Tyler Davis 135 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: can't bring it in and the deflection ends up going 136 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: for an interception you talked about. The one with Dobbs 137 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: along the sideline, also a third down play, if I 138 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: recall correctly, Um, not any easy catch. Maybe the ball 139 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,239 Speaker 1: could have been in a better spot, but Dobbs almost 140 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: is able to get it. Not a pass that that, 141 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: in any normal circumstances going to get intercepted, except for 142 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: the way in which the play unfolded as the two 143 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: players went to the ground. The one that Jordan's Love, 144 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: of course is is is going to be kicking himself 145 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: about is the third interception. Um. Now, we heard from 146 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur afterward that two guys ran the wrong route 147 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: on the play and again this was another third down 148 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: excuse me, a little bit of a do or die 149 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: situation as far as that drive goes. Two guys ran 150 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: the wrong route. The only guy who was running the 151 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: correct route was a Maori Rogers, but he wasn't open. 152 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: Jordans Love tried to force it in there to him anyway, 153 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: the pass was a little bit behind him. Um and uh, 154 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: and ends up getting picked off by the cornerback. That 155 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: was That was the one that hurt, because I really 156 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: felt up until that moment that Jordan's Love had put 157 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: together statistic Acide had put together a pretty solid performance. 158 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: Now to his credit, after that interception on the throw 159 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: to Rogers, he came back directed the two minute drive 160 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: the back shoulder throw to Danny Davis. They end up 161 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: getting a touchdown before the half. So the bounce back, 162 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: the bounce back from what really was probably his worst 163 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: throw of the night was there for Jordan's love. But 164 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: on balance, overall, I thought we saw way more of 165 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: Jordan's love and what his capabilities are in this one 166 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: half of football than anything we saw last season in 167 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: his second year in the league. Yeah. I mean, whether 168 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: it was the two preseason games that start against Kansas City, 169 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: I said it, and I don't apologize for it. I said, 170 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: I want to see Jordan's love play fast and free. Yeah, 171 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: and whatever happens happens. It's a preseason game. People like 172 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: you want to actually see this young man actually played 173 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: the position because ultimately, when Tom Clements and Aaron Rodgers 174 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: and everybody goes back in that quarterback room, that's the 175 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: tape that you can coach off of. You can't coach 176 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: off of just five aren't out routes and stuff underneath. 177 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: You need to allow him to play downfield a little bit, 178 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: and he did that in this game. The thing that 179 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: was most surprising to me, though, is that the most 180 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: erratic moments for him actually seemed to be just working 181 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: out into the flat. Uh. There were some plays there 182 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: that I think could have been made um and and 183 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: as you know, as you know, La Fleur said, I mean, 184 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: some of these receivers need to make these catches too, 185 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: but that including on the interception that became an interception, 186 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: the ball wasn't exactly where you wanted it. The third one, 187 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: it's just dealing with adversity and and maybe if there's 188 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: one thing you could you know, put down the negative 189 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: for is well maybe that's just where you got to 190 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: just get out of the play, throw the ball away, 191 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: whatever you gotta do. Yeah, la Fleur said. La Fleur said, uh, 192 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: I believe. On Sunday, in his press conference before practice, 193 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: he said, that's just one where when a couple of 194 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: routes go haywire and the one guy who is running 195 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: the correct route is covered and it's not there. You 196 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: just have to go off schedule. You know, you can't 197 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: just throw the ball away from the pocket right because 198 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: you're going to risk the intentional grounding that makes everything worse. 199 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: But go off schedule, get out of the pocket, try 200 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: to reconnect eye contact with the receivers to get into 201 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: the scramble drill and and maybe maybe something happens there. 202 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: So that was that was the downfall there where he 203 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: forced it. But also I will say with regard to 204 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Jordan's love, we've seen him and he's talked about it 205 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: at his locker with reporters. He doesn't want the tucket 206 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: and run to be the first instinct all the time. 207 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: He wants he knows that he needs to stand in 208 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: the pocket and deliver the throws. And these are the 209 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: things that a young quarterback learns. Having that mindset in training, camping, 210 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: in practice is definitely important for his development. You get 211 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: into the game situation, and there are going to be 212 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: situations where, yes, the extended play you know, the tucket 213 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: and run and and stay alive to fight another down 214 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: kind of thing has to be what takes over in 215 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: certain moments. And the only way you learn that is 216 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: just to play. You're not going to learn that on 217 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the practice field, quite frankly, because you don't get sacked. 218 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: You don't get it. You know, you're wearing the red jersey. 219 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: So and this is a young man now, he's only 220 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: in his career. He's only played three preseason games and 221 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: he's only played one and a half games of regular 222 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: season football. So there's still a long way to go 223 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: here for Jordan's love. But to me, I was I 224 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: was definitely encouraged by what I saw because we did 225 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: not see the same quarterback. We saw last year. No, No, 226 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: we saw what we've seen the quarterback that at intervals, 227 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: We've seen him play and be able to make plays downfield, 228 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: and he certainly has the arm I thought this game, 229 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: more than any other moment, really demonstrated his arm strength. 230 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Not just about fifty r bombs or thirty three yard 231 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: touchdown passes. I'm talking about just having some zing on 232 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: a pass across the middle. I mean that really impressed me. 233 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: And to be honest with him, Mike, something we don't 234 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: talk enough about Jordan's love now is gonna be able 235 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: to play and back to back games for the first time. 236 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: He had the injury last year and was held out 237 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: of that game against Houston with the shoulder. So like 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: he's actually gonna be able to really build on this 239 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm most looking forward to. Yeah, I 240 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: want to shift gears to defense. But a little bit 241 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: of sponsor business here. 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Unfortunately, Um the guy the young 251 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: players that I thought stood out that sort of that 252 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: sort of jumped out in terms of their effort in 253 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: their production in this game. Four guys to me, Isaiah 254 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: McDuffie at line inside linebacker, Kingsley n Igbari at outside linebacker, 255 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: and then two young defensive lineman T. J. Slaton and 256 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Jack Heflin. I thought those four young players who are 257 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: trying to work their way into whether it's roster spots, 258 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: potential playing time, all of that through this training camp, 259 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: I thought those four young men on the defensive side 260 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: of the ball all made a statement of sorts, giving 261 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: themselves something to continue to build on here the rest 262 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: of the preseason, because now it's not just about okay, 263 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: here you have this game film. Now do you have 264 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: another one you could put alongside of it to show 265 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: that you're the same guy? And I think Bari is 266 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: probably the one that I was most excited about coming 267 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: out of this game. And he didn't draw a lot 268 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: of the headlines because one there were really a lot 269 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: of people there to write the headlines. It was just 270 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: us um. But I didn't catch him in the locker room, 271 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: so that's how that happens. No, but he got a 272 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: lot of pressure. I thought he pushed the pocket well, 273 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: and then he carried that over Monday. He had probably 274 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: his best practice in Green Bay. I mean evens or 275 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: was it Sunday, even as Sunday that he might have 276 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: had two or three sacks. And then Matt Lafleur, even 277 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: after a little bit of argument in the meeting room, 278 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: admitted he might have had two sacks. He was he 279 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: was single handedly trying to wreck that two minute drill 280 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: by by Rodgers in the offense. So though I did 281 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: see in the locker room Rogers giving him the business 282 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: a little bit about like, hey, don't just don't assume 283 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: that those were gonna be sacks, kind of thing, like 284 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: from about halfway across the locker room, they were kind of, uh, 285 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: drawing in a friendly way, drawing back and forth a 286 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: little bit as to just how those plays might have 287 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: finished on the practice field. But anyway, the veteran quarterback, 288 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: the rookie pass rusher certainly making a connection. But that's 289 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: what you want to see from a fifth round pick 290 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: and being able to really learn and grow. He hadn't 291 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of opportunities in O T A S 292 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: and the non contact stuff. He put the pads and 293 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: I think you're really seeing kind of player that he is. 294 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: Defensive line wild me in this game. Because Devonte Wyatt 295 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: going through was being evalued for concussion, was not he 296 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: didn't practice going into the game. They held him out 297 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: even though he was back on the practice field on Sunday. 298 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: That so that meant it was a lot of you know, 299 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: Chris Slayton, it was a lot of t J. Slayton, 300 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean. And then certainly Jack Heflin has been this 301 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: this workhorse for them, Uh that really shows up in 302 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: these preseason games. And yeah, those guys. Those guys played 303 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps and they really I thought they 304 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: really bawled out all night long. For when you go 305 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: from getting maybe twelve or fifteen eleven on eleven reps 306 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: in a practice to suddenly you're playing thirty or forty 307 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: snaps in a preseason game. That's a big transition to make, 308 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: and yeah, they got tired in the fourth quarter, understandably so. 309 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: But for the bulk the game, I thought the Packers 310 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: defensive front held up quite well. And Trace Sermon is 311 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: a legitimate running back. The Packers saw him as a 312 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: starter last season. I think he's a third round pick 313 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: coming into the league. I mean that that was a 314 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: good back that they were facing and then by then 315 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: being able to fill their gaps and do their assignments. 316 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: That's where I thought opened up things for Isaiah McDuffie 317 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: and McDuffie showing that he is a tackling machine. It's 318 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: one six in college and he's doing it again in 319 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: these opportunities. Yeah, six tackles in twenty six snaps. That's 320 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: a That's that's pretty productive work there. Now, that's how 321 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: the defense is designed to work with regard to defending 322 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: the run. But I thought I thought McDuffie again a 323 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: guy he's now a second year player, looking a lot 324 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: different from the rookie who was sort of that barely 325 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: heard from sixth round pick out of Boston College last year. 326 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: I know we're tight on time here today, but I 327 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: do want to just address one more thing before we go, 328 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: and that is that we are about to head out 329 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: for the first of two joint practices against the New 330 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Orleans Saints practices Tuesday and Wednesday, and then the preseason 331 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: game on Friday night at lambeau Field. Just quickly, what 332 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: are you keeping an eye on with regard to these 333 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: joint practices? Really? How the offense looks the number one 334 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: offense against the Saints number one defense. Saints actually have 335 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: a really good unit to Statistically, I think they were 336 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: even better than Green Bay in terms of the total 337 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: yardage last season and points. So it's not gonna be 338 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: any less of a challenge than what they faced the 339 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: last few weeks. But how do the rookie receivers respond 340 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: to that? You know, who steps up in this setting 341 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: and what kind of plays does Matt Laflour in this 342 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: offense want to get in? Then I also just want 343 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: to say, Gayer Alexander versus Michael Thomas is gonna be 344 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: a main storyline these next two days. Watching that battle, 345 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: watching the one on ones, I have to imagine it's 346 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: gonna be good on good there, and I know Jayre 347 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: is really excited about it. Yeah, I think if the 348 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: if the way things are set up on the practice 349 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: field is similar to the way it was against the 350 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: Jets in the joint practices last year. You'll probably be 351 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 1: watching the Packers number one offense. I'll be kind, you know, 352 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: with my eyes trained towards the other end of the 353 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: field and the number one defense. And yeah, I'm excited 354 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: to see, you know, because simply we didn't see last year. Uh, 355 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes Jr. Alexander and Russell Douglass three cornerbacks on 356 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 1: the field together eight snaps in the playoff game. That 357 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: was it. And of course they you know, they weren't 358 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: playing in in the preseason opener. So as you said, 359 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, the Saints offense, the way this, uh, the 360 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: way this, this Packers cornerback group lines up against against 361 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: those guys and and uh and how that goes, that's 362 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: going to be I think fun to watch the next 363 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: couple of days. It's gonna be worth the price of 364 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: admission alone, which by the way, it's free, it's free. Absolute. Well. 365 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: I apologize for the short show today. We just happened 366 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: to be really tight on time because of all the 367 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: stuff going on with the Saints and the joint practice 368 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: fighting that was the issue you can just be honest 369 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: about you ran out of time in cash, but we'll 370 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 371 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage. Continue to 372 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: follow it on Packers dot com. We've got everything for you, 373 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: training camp, preseason games, all of it on the website 374 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: for West, I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in, everybody. 375 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.