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Let's go and podcasts a legendary Queen's wrapper. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:03.080 He's on Miami hippop Pioneer up his dj e FN 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.040 Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players, 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:10.440 I mean in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:16.359 number one source for dr New year Z Time for 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:25.880 drink Champs, drink up for the w A good be 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.680 hopefully with the shipy this your boy and what up 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.200 is d j e F and his motherfuckering drink Champs 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:37.480 yap Yaur makes up now. When it comes to legends, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.760 when it comes to legendary DJs, when it comes to 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.639 people who've been down in this game forever and have 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:47.800 maintained relevance and maintenance consistency, this man picture comes up 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:51.040 when we googled him Jesus and his picture came out. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.520 The man is consistent. He's out here, He's still got 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.480 love for the game. You know, so many accolades, so 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.519 many are different things that he's done, and he's still 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.040 out here, still working, still doing. It's still out here, 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.840 still out here with gucci hats on, a nice classes 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.600 through the well, hit through a cameraman and doing what 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.000 you gotta do. In the case you don't know what 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:18.880 we talked about with motherfucker, let it. I honestly, I 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.959 honestly get stoked when I I speak to people like 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.400 you are people who laid down the legacy for people 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.720 like me A E F n um And when I 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:34.400 look at you guys, legacy and like did did what? 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.000 What time was? Uh? Let's let's take it from the beginning. 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:39.480 Let's take it from the beginning. How did how do? 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.760 How did you even? How did you get start? How 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:46.880 did I get stuck? Um? Who inspired you? Too? Well? 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.240 I had some older DJs in my neighborhood that would 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.480 do do all the block parties, um, and I think 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.920 what it was. I would I would go to these 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.760 block puts. Doesn't feel it and I would go to 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:02.240 these block parties, and these guys would they would be 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:05.000 on these enclosed portraits so you would never see what 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.200 they look like. But and they had these massive speakers, 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.000 and I always felt like they were the puppet masters 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.080 because they got you to do whatever they wanted to 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:16.200 do with the music that you lady. And I wasn't 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.760 the one that was at the parties or at the 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.000 block parties trying to get the girls. I was looking 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.560 at that into a house like trying to figure out 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.560 who the wizard was. But I couldn't see his face 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.359 and how he was pulling these strings and making anybody 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.640 do whatever he wanted with his music. Um, and I 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:33.120 got to a point that I was like, I want 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.000 to be that guy. I want to I want to 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.960 have that level of control that that he has with 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:44.800 his music. So you know, it literally started from grabbing man. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.839 It was it was a DJ named Disco Dock in Philly. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.920 It was a guy Disco rat Um. And this was 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.520 this was pre hip hop too, so this wasn't you know, 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.000 this was they just playing mass production, grass construction, funk 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.080 and soul records. But it was just you know, they 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:04.279 had the big yet yet, but they had these big 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.800 giant speakers, and you know, we just get on the 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.200 bike and you would ride to you know, you ride 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.479 twenty blocks because you heard somebody would have a block 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.200 party and you would just go and just you know, 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:17.040 watch them do their things. You know, a couple of 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.760 hundred people on the street dancing um. And it was 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.440 just kind of like that was something that I liked. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:27.720 I liked the effect of him playing this music and 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:29.640 it had on people. It was like yo, like he 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.040 was the pie Python like he you know, I'm like, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.799 you could have told to do anything, and we probably 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.159 really did it, depending on how you string these records 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:39.720 together now describe to us Philly back and back in 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.160 the day, because it had to Pully has to go 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.040 through so many different transitions. So the was because UM 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.960 us in hip hop us in New York. Problem. Uh, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.720 we knew that it came from the Bronx. Well, it 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.919 was always around it, so was it like that of Philly. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.839 Wasn't hip hop just everywhere? And we we would get 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.920 tapes from the Bronx of hip hop, Like you know, 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.839 everybody had a cousin that lived in New York. Everybody 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.520 had a cousin that was from the Bronx, which anybody 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:16.560 probably live cool with Flash or hurt Um, But it 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.520 was just like you would get these tapes that would 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:23.200 be a hundred generations tapes of t Connection and the Fever, 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:28.440 and you would basically imagine what these parties were like. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.120 You know, to me, it was thousands of people in 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.520 these parties and there was massive sound systems and those 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:36.840 parties could have been in the room like this, but 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.840 it was just what you got and what you imagine. 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.560 But that that was it, you know, we um. I 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.280 feel like the hip hop scene in the Philly was 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.720 created off of what we thought it was in New 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.120 York because there wasn't videos, There wasn't any of that, 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.760 so you didn't really got a lot of Philly that cool. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.440 See Sandy being um. You know they came up before 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:00.440 you know there was they was around the same time 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.400 the same time. Wasn't there was a group? Right? Was 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.880 the name of the group? TV? What CB was a group? Like? 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.040 Because we did were like the first rap gagsters like 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.600 technically like I mean we heard in w A and 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.720 all that, but no one either jazz. You know what 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.560 I really started like that was it was school. He 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.720 d school, he did and as he did, got at 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.960 all that he was the first rapp up that was 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.280 actually living in his literally just you know, he was 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.200 talking about his neighborhood and he just described it to 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.840 a t and it was just you know, you know, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.720 we didn't know that and did that that it's goods 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.040 outside of New York. When we started the hand of that, 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.160 it was like, X, really, motherfucker's by the way, we 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:39.920 don't know if we know Jazzy Jeff, but this is 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.040 a show where we celebrate our lections. You know what 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.640 I'm saying. We were were we were now the first 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:49.240 person that we interviewed since we won the award. Let's 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:54.520 big up. What was the name the National Film and 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:58.600 televis Television A War? In true drink Chace fashion, we 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.600 seen on one of our friends to pick up the war. 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:04.840 We don't think we're gonna win, by the way, generous, 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.360 we get a Saturday night last. We don't think were 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.240 gonna win, So we sit on home, Jimmy kimbers against 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.240 and Homie I travel to know and Homie actually goes there. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.240 It gets the award and in to drink chance fashion, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:24.840 he breaks the award getting into a school he took pature. 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:34.079 I'm wanting to he dropped junk family. I also Bob, 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:35.720 we had it. You want to pick up to aunerable 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.480 old staff man get a wonderful event yesterday and um, 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:41.800 they all came together. They was all stressed out. I 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:43.480 love to see them all stressed out, but I'd love 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.840 to see them all and he took care of everything, 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:47.440 so I wouldn't want to pick them up. But now 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.839 let's get back to Philly, right because in a lot 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.599 of ways, the biggest artist to date right now is 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:58.000 meet Mail right for for his triumph. But if it 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:04.400 wasn't you guys, do you see the director like he's 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.000 like the new Philly King or or you don't see that? Yeah? 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.200 Absolutely absolutely. But I don't think we ever looked at 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.800 ourselves as Um. I don't want to say Philly King's 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:20.000 because like myself and Will, I think you know, Philly 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.920 was where we were from. Um, it was a little 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.440 weird back then because there was a point in time 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.079 that we didn't feel that we kind of got the 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:32.560 love that other people got in Philly, Um that people 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.760 got in different states. Um. And I really think looking 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:38.480 back at contact, it was because a lot of that 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.079 was new you know, anybody was trying to everybody was 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.040 trying to figure out what it is we were doing. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.040 We don't know how long this is gonna last. Like 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.959 so I don't think it was people just didn't didn't 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.280 show love. You know, radio stations. I think we're a 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.160 little bit afraid because they were kind of like, we 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:58.520 don't know if it's gonna be here, you know. Yeah, 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.520 so it's like we're not going really lock in to this. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:06.240 So I think, you know, Meet coming along now, um and, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.400 and Philly has always had champions that they really really 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:14.120 got behind and they wanted to kind of go beyond Philly, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.040 you know, state property and beans in that whole thing. 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:21.400 Like everybody was super invested the routes. Um And, I think, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.160 you know what, like Meet being the new younger generation, 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.880 but also going through what he went through and coming 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.199 through the way that he came through. It's kind of 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:33.439 like he's not only put himself in a position that 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.880 he's a champion in Philly. I think that's gone way 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:41.280 beyond too. Yeah. I um, I just feel like the 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.480 hip hop history is so rich and it starts from 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:49.040 actually history, but actually you guys are originators, like you 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:55.040 you gotta claim that you have to. We were one 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:58.079 of them, you know, it was it was you know, 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.360 it was a time, like I said, we didn't know 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.120 what we were doing. We were we were thinking that 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.800 we were imitating New York, you know, and Philly is 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.720 a very DJ heavy city. It was the DJ was first. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.839 That only happened because we thought the DJ was first 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.440 in New York. We didn't realize that the rapper took 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.880 precedent and then the DJ was the person to back 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.559 him up. We came with like, listen to DJ is first, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.199 and the rapper tells anybody how great the DJ was. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:28.200 That's that was me and Will's dynamic. That was Steady 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.559 be In in his DJ's dynamic. You know, that was that. 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.920 But that was what we thought. We thought. That's how 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.000 it was so not realizing that you kind of created 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.400 your own version, you know, your own spin on it 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.880 that you know, it was kind of okay, you know, 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.959 but because like I said, we didn't have videos and 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.400 all the rest of that to kind of make everything seamless, 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.360 you know, it was just kind of like I gotta tape. 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.520 I don't know what Cowboy looked like, I don't know 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.560 what d mel looked like so, you know, in my head, 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.040 I'm imagining, you know, I remember seeing the first picture 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.880 of you know, Theatore and the fans Plastic five, and 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.400 I'm trying to figure out who was who, Like, you know, 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.080 when I found out the light skin, Dude, ain't they 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.959 you know? So you know it was it was all 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.080 of this is priests? Are you just making it up 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.480 as you go along? Now? How you like? Throughout all 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.080 your years, you never got in trouble, Like, at least 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:24.400 it's a public guy like, You're not a scandal. It's 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.439 not Google, would you know what man like? Because Instagram 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:34.839 wasn't a live listen. If it wouldn't be listen, it 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:39.000 wouldn't be hip hop, would not be hip hop. You know. Um, 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:44.960 but you know, I think just listen. I in spite 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:49.880 of how willing the records that we made, none of 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.559 us grew up in the best environment. You know. We 0:12:53.640 --> 0:12:55.760 grew up in inner City, We grew up in Philly. 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:57.839 You know, we had our share of ship and just 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.199 you know, and and it was what it was. But 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.160 it was kind of like, you know, I think our 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.840 approach was, we're not really telling the story of where 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.960 we grew up but that doesn't hide how we grew up. 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.040 But growing up like that one thing that you developed 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.640 is smart that it's kind of like you don't tell 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.959 your business, you don't put your business out there. And 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.600 I think some of those old school lessons that I got, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.280 I just kept with me that it's kind of like, 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.760 you know, it's no one is squeaky clean. It just 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:31.120 depends on who sees your dirt. But you see how 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.880 easy it is nowadays, Like these new kids they're saying 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:36.040 and then the next day, the next day they're on 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.000 their tomorrow sniff and cocaine off Kimberly. I see, you 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.640 know what we never we never had a twenty four 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:46.480 hour a day camera on you telling like, you know 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.640 what's messed up about this generation? They put the camera 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.680 on themselves. The people. I was like, let me ask 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.000 you a question. If you got in trouble, would you 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.719 go to Alvy Square Mall in New York in the 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.760 food course that bring out your trouble? And everybody's like no, 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.240 And I was like, that's what you just did. That's 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.920 exactly what you just did. And the people don't understand that. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:11.280 It's kind of like you know, you you that's how 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.120 you know I've come from the same I just used 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.320 that same reference the other day about obviously we're going 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.000 to do it to be to the side and said album. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.240 But yeah, that's the crazy thing is they actually but um, 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:27.720 but I've seen I seen a documentary one time. We're 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.440 talking about you and Will on tour, and I think 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.240 y'all was on Queen lot Teeth with Chalk and everybody 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.680 was looking at y'all different because y'all had pop records. 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:39.320 They was considered pop records at the time. And y'all 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.240 was going on every single night and still bosting ass 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.440 on stage because that's that's what it was about. Kid 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.320 with the records, y'all. You know, like when when we 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.880 when we went to New York when we did the 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.640 whole lot of Union Square and all the rest of that. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.480 We have one record, you know, we're going up did 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.200 to do girls Ain't nothing but trouble. But it's kind 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.720 of like, yo, okay, well we gotta do this freestyle, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:00.680 you gotta DJ, we're gonna bring out the beat box, 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:04.160 like our job is to entertain you. So it's kind 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.200 of like, man, listen, that the least important thing for 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.000 us on the show was the record, like we the 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.000 records are given. Anybody know the record, but we gotta 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.760 get him with all this other stuff. Let me ask 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.400 you something. So you as a DJ, right and when 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.920 people cultique records like that and you're out DJ and like, 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.080 because you know, I assume you and you you know 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.120 the records that that planning. Did you ever like come 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.280 and try to persuade like the group to go a 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.840 different direction? Like you know what I'm saying, OK, Like 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:34.920 I don't mess with people's creative direction. You know. It's 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.960 kind of like you know this this this is you're 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.200 doing something that's inside of you. And you know, to me, 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.560 is you have the ability to say if you like 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:45.720 it or you don't. I ain't really got the ability 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.280 to tell nobody change shit, you know, because that's I 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.000 don't want anybody to tell me to do the same thing. 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.560 You know. It's all subjective. You know, every A and 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:57.280 R that you talked to at every record company was 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:03.960 giving you their opinion. Nobody's opinion. Law, how did you connect? Um? 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.320 I was really big in the city uh as a DJ, 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.960 and Will was in the crew. Um he was in 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.880 the crew in a sexon city in Windfield and you know, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.480 you know of people, you know because a lot of 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.240 times we're on the same show. Um. And it was 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.880 crazy because this was pre cell phone, page or any 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:26.400 of that. So when you had to get a call 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:27.680 because he was in the house, and I got a 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:31.080 call like yo, somebody wants to do this house party 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.960 on fifty four from Windwood, and I was like cool, 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.160 and I picked up the phone and you know, picked 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:40.520 up the phone and called the guy that used to 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.680 MC for me and he went in the house. Couldn't 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.240 page him and nothing. So it was kind of like, listen, 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.760 I'm gonna go do the party. You know, I just 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.280 can't get him. And when I showed up, it was 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.400 two doors down from Will's house, and as soon as 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:54.920 I was chilled up to set my stuff up, he 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:56.120 came in the basement and it was kind of like 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.680 we knew each other, dapt each other up. He was like, yo, 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.440 where's your man Ice? And I was like yeah, I 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.640 couldn't find him, and he was like, yo, you mind 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.000 if I rocked? And I was like nah, And it 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:09.960 was just a natural chemistry that we had that night. Listen, 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:13.080 I kept saying, if Ice would have picked up that phone, 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:19.040 I might not be sitting here, you know, that's crazy. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.040 It was just you know, and then that turned into 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.920 what you're doing? Them are what are you doing next Saturday? 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.040 What are you doing? And it was probably seven months 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:33.320 later we had a record out. What was the moment 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.280 where you was like I made it was the parents 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.320 just don't understand. There's there's a point in time that 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.720 I still don't think I had that moment. What you have? 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.200 Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I think? Um? When 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.560 we we we when we put out pants, I meant 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:57.399 we had signed of Rush and UM management and I 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.680 remember when we played them and he's the DJ on 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.119 the rap for hour Russell listened to it and Russell 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:03.720 said this is going to be gold in four weeks 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:09.879 and he was just like the US management UM and 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.439 we and we didn't believe him, and and the record 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.879 actually went gold in five weeks. But what it was, 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.879 we were on tour and it was kind of like 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.359 you started to tour off in your the third actor 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.600 going and then a week later you're the fourth factor 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:27.800 going on, and then a week later you're the fifth 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:30.160 actor go on, and you're not realizing why they're moving 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:35.359 you up. And it was we do any shows with 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:42.600 run DMC and like it was a pack tour. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:47.480 And it was kind of like every night, you know, 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.080 will start coming to me. He's like, yo, like is 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.280 it me or is the cheers getting louder? And I'm like, 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.280 I don't know, I can't tell, like you know, it's 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.080 you know. And it was one night he did parents 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:01.960 just don't Understand and and he said the first verse, 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.360 and he told me that he was gonna try something. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.560 He said the first verse and then he said in 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.920 between the first and second verse, he was like, listen, 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.840 I'm gonna say the first line and I want everybody 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.560 to say the second line, which was really dangerous because 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.000 if nobody said ship, we would have been And he said, 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.399 I remember one year my mom took me school shopping 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.520 in twenty five thousand people answering, and and that was it. 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.400 That was kind of like because once again, when you're 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:32.159 on the road, you don't you know, you don't have 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.560 any frame of reference if your record is getting big, 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:40.120 you know, I know. So it was kind of like, yo, 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:44.040 like this is crazy, you know. And it was, you know, 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:45.840 before we end up getting off the tour, we're right 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.520 before run DMC was, was that ever rough between you 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:54.120 and world? I want nah, nah, you know, I mean 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.080 trust me, you have grown pains, you know, because we 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.879 started off so young. But it was wild because one 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.200 of the first times right after we got together, I 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.600 mean we sat on the steps um and it was 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.200 wild because of me Will the manager, Jail and Charlie 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:15.199 matt Um and yeah, I saw and Will was like, yo, man, 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:17.480 I want to do movies. And I was like, I 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.840 want to do music for the movie. So people would 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.320 always be like, didn't get strange, you know, did you 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:24.280 feel like Will left? He was like, nah, Like this 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:29.000 was planning from day one. None of this was music. 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:31.000 You were scoring most of the movies. I was like, 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:32.560 I did all the music on The Fresh Prince of 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:45.920 bel Air. The thing still, I'm gonna tell you something, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:47.960 you know what. And somebody said this to me not 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.640 too long ago, and and and it freaked me out. 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:52.600 He came up to me and he said, let me 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.000 ask you a question. What is the biggest hip hop 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.639 record in the world. And I started going down the 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:01.560 list and like Dr J Snoop Emina, and he was 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.240 like the Fresh Prince of bel Air. He said, that 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.440 is the biggest everybody knows that everybody was in the 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.520 world was an over dred and and I never thought 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.520 of that, you know, especially when you realize you record 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:17.480 it was. Was that just the theme for the show. 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.240 Did you actually drop a record? Um? The record company 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.680 put something out that I found out that whole show 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:27.760 was made for the ship. We made it for the show. Wow, 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.359 Uncle Phil passing away, what you had a relationship, very 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:36.720 very good. Like he was like hip Hop's uncle. He 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:39.000 you know what, because that was like our family like that, 0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:42.240 like the Fresh Prince was everybody from the project. That's 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:46.119 what we greamed of doing, Like somebody, We're having a 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:50.680 rich family somewhere and everything gonna flies out. We're gonna 0:21:50.680 --> 0:21:53.120 live in Bellair and Uncle Phild's gonna be all all good. 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.280 And so I think hip Hop took that one. Yeah, 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.639 like hip Hop Actually, I mean he was. He was. 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:03.879 He was my vacation dude that because he would, you know, 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:05.440 in the off season, he would just get in the 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.480 car and him and his friends would drive from cross 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.800 country and they would they he could tell you every 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.640 great restaurant, every great beach, like he they were traveling. 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:18.359 So you know, I would go to him. He's like, yo, 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.960 if you know, the best beach in the world is 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:24.480 in kN Kom and the best restaurant is here. Um. 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.040 But he would always pull you aside drop some knowledge. 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:30.320 He was a huge music and jazz fan, so I 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.639 would always, you know, go in his room and he 0:22:32.680 --> 0:22:35.399 would slide me new CDs and and stuff like that. 0:22:35.480 --> 0:22:37.000 When he was he was he was cool. He was 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:41.080 really cool. What's what's your favorite ever in hip hop? Nineties? 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.840 On that nineties? Gonna give you ten years or what 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:48.639 ninety two? I would almost say, no, not necessary. I 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:54.640 would say probably between eighty eight. Okay, this fucking phenomenal years. 0:22:56.280 --> 0:23:01.600 That's a great decade. So let's let's takes Sea Ansars 0:23:01.640 --> 0:23:07.840 in there. Him is in there there, we'll tang Tang'll 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.760 take him out Nary too, so we'll tang the discovery 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:15.399 of mutanger. What's something that that that shocked you in 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:17.359 hip hops? When you sat back, he was like, I 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.480 can't believe hip hop went this far um because you 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:23.440 come up with the morals, but you know what, you 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.600 know what it is. It's kind of like when you 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:29.440 come from the Moralds. You saw how it got m more. 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.800 No one gave a shit about hip hop until they 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.840 realized that hip hop was making money. When we boycotted 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.639 the Grammys, it was because you wanted to put it 0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:41.680 on television or you wanted to exploit it on television, 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.720 but you didn't want to show the category. And I'm like, 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:49.400 wait a minute, hip hop is hip hop. Hip Hop was, arguably, 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:50.960 and I want to say this might have been eight 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:57.360 arguably the top three music genre in the world. If 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:01.720 you got nine country and what ston categories that you're televising, 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:05.159 then you're gonna televise one of these hip hop categories 0:24:06.040 --> 0:24:09.080 because on the scale, it should be up there every 0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.400 hip hop category and should be up there based off 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.240 of the level of the music. And so for them 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.359 to kind of disrespect it, and this was at a 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.480 point in time that you had radio and talk show 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.119 hosts that were blatantly saying hip hop is a faddis. 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:34.399 So you're together, y'a boycott the after ye we were just, 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.199 you know, we got together, Salt and Pepper, everybody who 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.160 was nominated, and we were just like, we're not going. 0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:42.040 We're gonna go to all of the functions and we're 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.480 gonna talk about why we're not going because they not 0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:46.960 only were we nominated, but they wanted me and Will 0:24:47.040 --> 0:24:50.080 to perform. So we were like NA and understand at 0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.320 that time saying no, you don't know if this is 0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:54.159 the kiss of death, Like are you in a position 0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.960 to say nothing that they're just gonna say? You know, 0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:01.440 but everybody kind of banded together. Um, and that's why, 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.000 you know, hip hop has kind of for for a 0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:07.359 while kind of gotten to be a staple in the 0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:12.600 grand news. But you also watched when you started when 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.000 people started making real money in hip hop, and they 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:19.639 started noticing when it got to a point that somebody 0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:25.480 like mc hammer sold twelve million records and now you know, 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.200 through media you're starting to see the fruits of his 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.520 labor more then people. Then you started to realize corporate 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.320 America is going to turn in. It's no different than 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.240 the DJ culture. You know, I'm in DJ and for 0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:41.480 thirty something years, so being inside the bubble before the 0:25:41.560 --> 0:25:45.840 bubble got big, you got DJs into making six hundred 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:50.960 thousand dollars a night a night, I'm like, yo, But 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:56.080 all of that happened when corporate America realized. As soon 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:59.680 as you put Calvin Harris made sixty seven million dollars 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:03.840 in orbs. Now everybody wants to be a DJ because 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:07.040 it's now it's big business, so you start, you know, 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:10.920 I think I think there's a level of hip hop 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.520 that does not belong to hip hop and like sub 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.600 genre type of stuff or just you know what, I 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:23.760 don't believe that. I don't believe that a lot of 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.840 the commercial hip hop that's on the radio is picked 0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.840 by the fans for sure, like something like like trust me, 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:38.160 They're just like yeah, So it's kind of like it's 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.600 almost like they're never gonna say it, but we we 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:43.879 let you hear what we want you to hear. Like 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:47.160 that's why the underground has always been a certain level 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.399 of purity because you can't really control that, Like you 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:53.240 gotta seek and look for stuff. But the stuff you're saying, 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.680 like a label can pay for the next that it's 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.800 just terrible, you know, but it's just kind of like 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.280 you don't realize that you don't have that level of control. 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.080 But that level of control is only because of the money. 0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:07.879 As a DJ, have you ever as a person ever 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:09.800 came to you and said, ye'all want to pay you 0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.200 to play my records? Every time you spend like no, 0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:18.440 I mean no, and I've been fortunate enough to keep 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.639 myself out of the circle. You know that. It's just 0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:23.840 kind of like, because that's what's the new thing now, 0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.800 DJ is kind of big. Artists go to them, pay 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.600 the dji him three grand and the DJ playing him 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.159 and then and he's the only DJ playing up. So 0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.199 it's kind of like, you know, you know he got 0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:36.879 because it's like no one else playing, you know what 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:39.480 I'm saying. So, I mean, I think that lowers the 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.920 integrity of a DJ. How about you here. I know, 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.040 I'm sorry. It happens like said, you know, you use 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.359 DJ in a lot in a couple of times and 0:27:47.560 --> 0:27:49.080 person came up to you. It was like, y'all over 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.680 your described. You don't have to you know, don't please 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:56.880 give you as okay right now, just my record? Oh wow, 0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:02.560 what I'm saying happen often. It okay, yeah, but you 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:04.359 know they're doing that now, like I think all this 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:07.439 we're talking about, Yeah, but it's now it's like social 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.760 media is almost becoming the DJ two. Now they're paying 0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.240 people on social media to do something, to record, to 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.560 play a record, like yeah, I heard that, I'm paying 0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.080 people to stream records now, so there's like companies in 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.679 Japan and everything he's saying about like how people aren't 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.080 really choosing anything. Algorithms is the same thing, like you 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.639 think you're picking something, but it's being chosen for you. 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.600 But but is it our choice to turn on the 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.000 radio and then know these songs? Because some of these 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.800 songs I hate, but I know every word of that's 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.840 program A programmer told me that they actually have a 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.280 mathematical equation that they know if they play a record 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.440 a certain amount of times and the day it's gonna 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:52.520 get stuck in your head. Have you been disgusted from 0:28:52.600 --> 0:29:01.680 hip hop yet? Yeah? I wasn't say he kept too positive. 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:06.640 You don't say no, Yeah. I mean the funny thing is, 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:10.520 I think I've been just disgusted at some level moment 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.920 from the beginning, Like there's a listen, there's always been 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.600 a good size and a bad side. I said that, 0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.880 there's always like I'm like, yo, this didn't just start 0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.320 that it was bad hip hop. It was bad hip 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:25.320 hop in the night, you know, but it's just it's 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:29.320 so much more good that you gave. Felt like the 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.720 good outweigh the bad. Now that's why I'm a problem 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.200 with saying sub genres in hip hop, I think it 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.280 should just be good hip hop and bad hip hop. 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:41.160 Can't know because it's been bad. You start making excuses 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.440 for ship, you know, like, oh no, because this is 0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.040 I'm this genre of hip hop. You know, I can't 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.800 say good and bad because just because I don't like 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.320 it and subjective. No, I'm saying it subjective. I'm not 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.680 saying that it's automatic whatever you think it's good and bad. 0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.280 Oh yeah, I still I don't want to call it 0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:02.200 bad as I don't like it. Like there's certain people, 0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:04.200 there's certain artists that I don't like them, but I 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.800 get why other people like them, you know what I'm saying. 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:08.920 And it's like, so I don't want I wouldn't want 0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:12.320 to call them back, but I can't. I can never 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:16.200 criticize somebody that I don't like because I don't eat cheese. 0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.520 I don't think people who eat cheese are bad. It's 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.200 just something that I don't do. So it's just kind 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.600 of like, you know, if it's stuff that you don't do, 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.080 now it gets a little interesting. As a DJ, you 0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:34.200 have you gotta figure but you gotta you gotta figure out, yeah, 0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.120 you know, and and there's some people that won't draw 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.400 the line, you know, or or draw a hard line 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.760 at curating, and you know, I think it's once again 0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:47.120 it's subjective. It's kind of like, you know, what type 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.920 of DJI are you? But that's why the DJ is 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.400 own entity as an artist, because people buy into what 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.680 your tasted. Yes, you have a DJ, and that somebody 0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:56.400 came with you is like play some to COPSI six 0:30:56.480 --> 0:31:02.440 times now, because once again, if you're smart, you know 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.520 how to navigate yourself that you're not putting yourself and 0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:09.400 I'm situations. I had a Vegas residency for seven years. 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.520 You know, me and DJ A M you know, had 0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:17.840 great times in Vegas because we would pushed out of it. 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.000 It was, you know, like I always had a massive 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.000 level of respect for him. I never forget one of 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:24.920 the first time that I went to Vegas and he 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:29.800 was playing and I walked in and it's two thousand people, 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.640 it's one thirty at night, and he was like, yo, 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.440 did you did you hit a new Bob Deep record? 0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:37.000 And I was like no, and he was like y'all 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.040 And I said, what then are you doing? But like 0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.080 he just dropped it. But there was a level of 0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:45.479 respect that I had for that, and he's kind of like, Yo, 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.960 I'm the DJ, I'm the train conductor. Everybody's on my train. 0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.040 They're gonna go wherever I take him, you know, And 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:55.400 you respected that. But you also saw throughout the years 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.880 Vegas change. You know, you you they got a list 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:03.360 this is what we want you to play. Listen, I 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.840 played Vegas, have to play a record that you didn't like, 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.200 but you knew that this was popping for the crowd. Oh, 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.160 I do that all the time. I'll do it. But 0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:15.640 but like I said, it's which is a whole another conversation. 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:23.720 You gotta understand the definition the the goal of the 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.400 DJ or the job description of the DJs. You are 0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:30.880 a servant of the people. You're not a servant of yourself. 0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.520 You're a servant of the people that your job is 0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.440 to play what the people like. It depends on how 0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:40.480 much work, depending on how much you want to play 0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.600 that the people like. There are some people that draw 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:46.280 the line. I am completely respectful for the the the 0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.239 keep it real DJ and I only played nineties hip 0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.880 hop and all of that said that, I'm with that, 0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.800 But if there's only one nineties hip hop party of month. 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.200 Then you can't complain about the work you're gonna Like, 0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.280 you can't say I want to play nineties music but 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.520 somebody on the book me every night, But you can't. 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:03.720 You can't have it both ways. But it's kind of 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.400 like you have to decipher how much of a servant 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.480 of the people you're going to be, you know, and 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.840 I may have to play that Takashi six nine record, 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.600 you know, and you know, depending on how you want 0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:19.760 to walk it. All Right, well, I got it. I 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:26.320 download a little leog album. I'm trying. I'm trying to 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:41.800 stay you know with the new batteries again at batteries right, yeah, yeah, 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:59.160 just going on left right out of me. We're ready. 0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:02.840 So didn't you'll have to like be for MC searchs 0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:07.600 or something like that. Man, I don't know, happy for 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.680 some somebody. Gotta we gotta have some for somebody. Happy 0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:16.520 for somebody. You really could get through a hip hop 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:23.680 like that. Listen, it ain't over. It's that's that's true. 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.680 So like you know, um, you're speaking only when you 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:34.000 first Matt will right, Um, he is a lee like 0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.360 you know, of our people right like this is that 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.759 they probably won't ever be a Will Smith. Did you 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:43.000 see that from him? Again? All Day? Get All Day, 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.600 All Day, Um, one of the first shows that we did. 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.719 And I used to play all the noise moments in 0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:51.759 love and he would do girls, Ain't that in My 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:56.680 Trouble over there? And I remember watching three hundred people 0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:01.800 stared at his mouth, hang on every word of a 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.080 story because they're visualizing the story. And I was like, 0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:09.879 that's power when you can communicate like that, that's power. Wow, 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.399 Like all day And you knew he would he would 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.040 be this guy like you know some of the movies 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.359 because at the end of the day, he represents hip hop, right, 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.320 and like I love the fact, like you know, somebody 0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:25.280 I idolized because I wanted to continue to be involved 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.120 with him, popular wanted to do other things. I just 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:29.279 want to do it my way. So I'm doing it 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:32.120 my version of you know what I'm saying. But when 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.000 you look at like like some of the movies he did, 0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:40.160 like he's crying on impulse, Like how do you do that? Listen? 0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:42.880 I've seen him do that with his girl back in 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:49.560 the door. I seen him getting some trouble and you 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:54.279 could try and I said, how did you trying to 0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.759 sque like. I was like, yo, like that's I don't 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:06.000 know how you even get that look like I spitting 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:12.759 on like so yeah, like he had it. You see 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:20.279 that from back then? Yeah, it's pre recorded this hell. 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.520 You know. I was like, you're the best day ever? 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.320 Did it? And that is acting? That is acting, is 0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:32.120 acting on impulse. That that's something I tried to do 0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:34.480 that I can't. I ain't got it. Yeah, that's that's it. 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:38.759 I ain't Yeah, trying to get man thinking about like that, 0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.879 that's like that it wouldn't work for me. That's why 0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.400 I know. I ain't got it. Man, I ain't got 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.279 but yet certain people could do that. But I just 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.760 you know, for hip hop him l l ice Cube, 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.120 I like, look at and you know a lot of times, 0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:55.200 you know, people claim them as actors and I been 0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:58.520 wanting to stop them, like like they hip hop first, 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:00.439 Like you know what I'm saying, Like they hip hop 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:04.880 and UM to see the to see the position that 0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.160 you know, they've took it it to for us to 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:11.040 continue to go, it's just amazing, man. It was. It 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.600 was hard in the beginning because people people thought that 0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.879 they fought well when when when he got the TV show. 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.840 It was a lot of backlash because for some reason, 0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:29.040 just the industry, hip hop industry, you know, UM and TV. Right, No, 0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.200 it wasn't even settling out. It was almost like we 0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.799 had this weird thing that people thought you can only 0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.680 do one thing exactly. It was like your hip hop 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:39.000 and you're gonna be hip hop until the day that 0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:40.279 you die. It's kind of like, you know, I like 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.360 other stuff, you know, like and all of that stuff 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:46.520 is super accepted now that I wasn't accepted in the beginning. 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.640 Like people fought and just like you, you're trying to 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.880 act like what are you doing because it was you guys. 0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.959 Latifa was doing that too, And I remember like people 0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.320 saying like but but they were using like that that 0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.600 sound out like they were using us word because but 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:03.680 you know what, you know what that I mean back 0:38:03.719 --> 0:38:05.080 in the days when they were saying to sell out 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.120 that meant you just get money, Like I know what's about. 0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:10.280 It was like they were hats back in the days, 0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.440 like if you was a something that means you was wretched, 0:38:12.520 --> 0:38:17.719 let's make some noise for that. Goddamnity. I'm talking about 0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:20.040 the show. One of my favorite songs of all time, 0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:23.680 the Summertime talk to us about the making. Did you 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.200 guys know that record was gonna be as big as 0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.960 if he Can? I remember watching the video for the 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:30.240 first time on the show. Wouldn't they and their intermation 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.560 or something like, let me tell you something. I judge 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:37.719 people barbecues, but based on if they play summer Time 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.040 or not. Nigger. If they don't play smer Time about 0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:45.000 your food is tracked. She got not cant doing nothing else, dude. 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.040 But if I don't here Summertime, I own them. At 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:49.120 least just put your food down. I'm sorry. I throw 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:50.839 it out there to mean sorry, I got I got 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.840 a little clearer. I mean, you know we um it 0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:56.759 was funny. That was the first year that Will was 0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:01.760 on the show. Um. And you know we east ghost fall, 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.040 leaves turn brown, get a little chilly there. You're jacking 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:08.200 off winter snow. You got your bomber ski hat. Spring, 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.400 you know, first day of spring and seventy degrees. We 0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.640 go overboard and we don'ta throw some shorts on and 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.879 think think think it's hot. But you see the girl 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:18.640 that you ain't seen all something, and she got a 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.080 little thick. Your man got a new car and he 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:24.560 he now shining. And what happened was he was in 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:28.239 l A. So it's ninety in the in the winter. 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:33.360 So I remember him calling me in the spring, you know, 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.480 the first nice day we had. It was just like yo, 0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:37.080 what's up? And I'm just like yo, So I just 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:40.480 said she ball, she stocked now and set us just 0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:42.640 got a new car and set us up, you know, 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.520 and he was like, damn, I missed that, Like and 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.359 I never thought about that, Like, Yo, you don't get 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.360 the seasons changing, so you don't have that in nostalgia. 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.719 It's a little bit different, you know. You know, it's 0:39:55.800 --> 0:40:00.400 it's nineties Christmas. So that was the inspire easing that 0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:04.240 it was like, yo, like I'm I missed summertime in Philly. 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.400 I missed these nuances. And it was crazy because not 0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:11.640 realizing that every place has their own nuance didn't have 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.279 to be what he talked about, Um, yeah, that's a 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:16.359 universal record. And it was kind of like we put 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:20.480 the record out and you know, it was everybody loved 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.120 it or something like it. You know. But then what 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.120 happened was the next summer came and you was kind 0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:27.600 of like, okay, that ship is over with and then 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:30.880 it's kind of like it's here again. And then the 0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.080 next summer came and it was it was here again, 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.520 and it was kind of like to me as an artist, 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:41.360 we dreamed to have something that never dies. Yes, you 0:40:41.520 --> 0:40:46.000 dream to have that legacy record that you know sometimes 0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.279 it's gonna be three thousand years old. Yeah, it's gonna 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.120 be and you can't you can't plays. We can go 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.200 to Mars. We can still still here summertimes. All right, 0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:59.320 I'm gonna be honest. I'll tell you that that is 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.880 a unit virtue. Today is a good day, ice Cube, 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.520 That's one of them. Whenever you have a good day, whenever, 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.640 like ship is real, Like you just gotta listen to 0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:12.120 ice Cube. But I was about when you know that 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:16.840 it's springs, like because it's a certain smell spring is leaving, 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:21.279 and when you know where summer is coming, and I 0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:27.399 just need to hear that something. Somebody's car. See, I'm 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.440 a barb with you guy me so I got the 0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.560 head of the barbercue. I'm gonna going out of there. Man, 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:37.200 I'll take it personal. So so you guys, uh, you 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:42.000 you go on tour. Uh he does h the fresh 0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:44.520 Princess that he starts going into into movies. Who was 0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.719 the first one Independence Day? Uh? No, he did the Fish. 0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:50.960 First movie was, uh, I want to say this movie 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.200 called Where the Day Takes You, but I think he 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.880 played a homeless man. But it was kind of like 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:59.040 his first like trying to getting getting into it. And 0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:02.520 then um, he did uh the thing with Nia and 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.440 Ted dancing and Whoopie Goldberg. I forgot the name of that. Um, 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:10.680 but it was just you know, you started seeing you 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:14.200 started seeing the roles coming. Um that the first time 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:18.959 hip hop is actually interim movie world. Yeah, to that level, 0:42:19.760 --> 0:42:23.279 because you know it was funny. Um, you know, there 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.759 was a bunch of people that kind of came up. 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:31.080 Queen was doing it for the female and yeah you 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:38.320 do it and wrong new Jack but there's no rapper 0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:43.400 ye okay, okay, but New Jack City came out. I 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:45.040 mean we went to the screen of New Jack City, 0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.759 I want to set the fresh prints. So it was 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.440 kind of like everybody was trying to get their field, 0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:52.880 you know, And then it was I think what it 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.640 was we were also stereotyped as rappers that it's kind 0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:58.920 of like you gotta play the role that he played 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.719 and New Jack's City, UM, and I think, um, you know, 0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.160 Will would kind of play this funny guy. And you know, 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:11.320 I remember when he did that movie, um, six Degrees 0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:16.560 of Separation, UM, and I remember him talking about, like, Yo, 0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.279 I'm there's certain you know, black directors and people that 0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.360 I want to work with that I can't seem to 0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:25.560 break through. And when he did that movie, that movie 0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:30.880 was so far left and he did such a great 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:35.239 job that it separated him from everybody else that it 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.160 got to the point that it's kind of like, down, 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.759 I'm getting calls from everybody. But I remember, you know 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.960 when when when he did that was probably one of 0:43:44.040 --> 0:43:49.640 the first times that I realized how in depth being 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:55.759 an actor is, because like it was crazy because we 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.880 were going through a little bit of a friction, and 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.319 the the mood that he had to get into play 0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:06.600 that role offered a lot of compassion and that kind 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.760 of enabled us to sit down and squash whatever friction 0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:14.000 that we had. But it was wild because he was like, yo, 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.239 you know, like sometimes you go these places and you 0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:20.800 you don't know how to get back, you know, because 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.120 you know, like it's the whole thing that you know, 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.960 like they said, Denzel becomes every character he is. I 0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.759 watched that what I watched the entire time that Will 0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:35.520 did alive. He never spoke to me out of Ali's character. 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:40.400 And it was the weirdest ship in the world. Listen. 0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.120 He would talk to me to the point that I 0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.560 had to get off the phone because he would talk 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:49.360 to me as mannerisms and all, you know, And I'm like, 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:51.239 you know, you laughing off because I'm waiting for you 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.839 to break and he would never break. And I'll call 0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:56.960 you back, you know, but you realize how deep you 0:44:57.000 --> 0:45:01.000 got to get into that. I think it's called us. 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:02.920 I was on the set with some dude right that 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.960 it's not pretty, it's not that cool because like he 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:07.400 was a dick in the movie, so he has to 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:09.120 be a dick like like so that this dude is 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:14.200 just walking about and your homeboys the last this ship 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:18.520 is said Colorad. Alright, that's just that's another again, my 0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.759 my bad, that's my stuff. But yeah, like the level 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.880 that that he has helped hoping up, like do you 0:45:25.000 --> 0:45:27.840 guys because this, yes, y'all I can see together is 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:30.880 that like I like, I went to all the party. 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.279 It was a Netflix party that he had. Um that 0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:36.480 the ship that the new movie had just happened, right, 0:45:37.280 --> 0:45:40.160 and it was crazy. And I walked I walked in, 0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:42.279 and I'm talking about there was so many white people. 0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:46.439 God bless, there were so many white people. But I'm 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:50.600 looking and I'm like, do they know about here? And 0:45:50.680 --> 0:45:53.600 I look and this is also it was real funny 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:57.000 for me because I said, up nor, I said, I 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:04.320 you know, I don't even didn't know me, but it 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:07.600 was hilarious. Man, I ain't gonna lie. I love. I 0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:09.320 love what you guys did for hip hop. You know 0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:11.799 what I mean? Because you guys took chances, you guys 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.839 took risk. You guys make globally music first. You guys 0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:17.759 put it on the front that you know. You know, dog, 0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.719 you think what was going on? And wasn't you still 0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:24.439 you still who you guys were to the test of time. 0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:26.720 And look at look at your career, look at your legacy. 0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.800 You guys should be saluted every day. Every day you 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.800 should say you sweet Jazzy Jeff motherfucking day. God damn it, 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:41.239 God damn legacy. And so we're so, why do you 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:44.360 still DJ? You still love it? You still do? I 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.680 love it? Man, I DJ more now than I ever 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:49.719 did in my entire I work one now than I 0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:55.879 ever worked in my life ever. And it's because isn't 0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:59.880 the is the feeling that you're addicted to the same thing. 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:03.120 Don't ask you a question. I'm not talking the music 0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.640 business or any of that. Are you smarter than you 0:47:06.760 --> 0:47:09.360 were when you put out your first album? Absolutely? Do 0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.440 you think you you you're more lyrical than you are. 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.399 Your vocabulary grown since you put out your first album. 0:47:14.880 --> 0:47:23.839 Probably not. I'm probably a kidn't differ. I'm different vocabulary, 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.879 but everything else I got smart. Yeah, I mean it's 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:31.440 kind of like you you you know how to navigate 0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:34.080 it exactly. You know, you know, you know how to 0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.759 maneuver in it. You know what I mean that, it's 0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:40.040 kind of like see for me, for artists, I got 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:42.800 I got tired of being on stage. See dj you 0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:45.080 control the stage on the low if you actually think 0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:47.040 what you said when you first said, you said, it's 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:48.640 a wizard. And that's the best way to kind of 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:51.320 describe a djail. You guys are in there with your lawns. 0:47:52.320 --> 0:47:55.960 That's your lawn. But see for me to stand there 0:47:55.960 --> 0:47:58.319 and just have to keep entertaining people for a certain 0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:00.160 amount of time, I kind of like I grew that, 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.279 not not in a bad way because I was still 0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.319 love the perform I don't ever wanted people to get 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:07.799 that miss con screwed. But you know it's it's it's 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:09.960 it gets it gets redundant, you know what I'm saying, 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.040 because where a lot of times like the entertainment, it's 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.000 not no, it's no difference between us and a stripper, 0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:17.440 you know what I'm saying, Like a stripper goals and dances, 0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.680 and like I'm just saying, Jake asked, I think it's 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:24.720 up the stage and hate it. I'm just saying, sometimes 0:48:24.840 --> 0:48:27.719 that's an artist. You you performed. I wnuna tell you 0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:29.560 I said the story before, but I'm gonna tell you 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:32.440 this is the one time this is I kind of 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:35.840 stopped performing. I have one of the most pruitiful times 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:41.280 I've ever had. It hampets and we're sitting there smoking 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.279 and I smoked. This is when I smoked cigarettes. And 0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:45.040 the guy he paid me. Of course he paid me, 0:48:45.120 --> 0:48:47.919 so he says, hey, you ready, let's go as who 0:48:50.400 --> 0:48:53.360 it was. Just how he's he made no harm, he 0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.000 made no harm, he made no disrespect. But just just 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:58.560 just you understand what I'm saying said you're ready, let's go. 0:48:58.880 --> 0:49:03.680 He didn't even make contact with me. I said, yeah, 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:06.520 I don't work for you. Even though I had this money, 0:49:09.960 --> 0:49:11.839 I wasn't worked for I that day. And that's when 0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.400 I stopped slowing down those shows and I slowed two 0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:19.000 more bogies. This makes no noise to me. I couldn't 0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.440 never again, I can't do that, said, you're gonna have 0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:23.680 to wait another twenty minutes. Russia didn't do it for you. 0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:28.160 When we went to Russia, Russia, they almost kill us. Yeah, 0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:31.120 kill us Russians. I ain't gonna lie. We was in 0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:33.239 the part of Russia. This is how where we are 0:49:33.280 --> 0:49:36.120 at St. Petersburg. Ever, but at the time, I don't 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:38.000 know if it changed, but at the time it was 0:49:38.080 --> 0:49:40.520 so racist that the Russians that was with us had 0:49:40.560 --> 0:49:43.560 to wear buttons that said Russians against racism. You know 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:48.480 you're in a racist We even gonna say we ain't 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:54.040 doing that was terrible. Yeah, we do some ship man, 0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:59.120 God bless you. Yeah. But as an artist, I kind 0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:00.799 of I kind of feel like, you know, I've seen 0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.960 you know, I've seen you know what was I don't 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.400 know what tip trill and you know all of the 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.760 famous strippers. They always come to Miami and people always 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.200 go see it. And I always, you know, every now 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.160 and then I'll go and let's see. You know, I'm married, man, 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:18.840 let's just watch you know, um, but I'm serious, but 0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:21.399 you know, and then you see these strippers that will 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.880 perform and then the happiest one that someone stolen dollars 0:50:24.920 --> 0:50:27.839 on them and then they turned around and then they 0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.440 throw on this ice grill. And it's similar to how 0:50:30.560 --> 0:50:34.160 a person who has to perform performs, you know, because's 0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.040 certain people have to like there's certain people who like 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.439 you know, you know, you see them like this nigg 0:50:38.440 --> 0:50:40.759 is this nig you know. But then there's people who 0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:43.320 just they love it. And when you outgrow it, you 0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.960 gotta you gotta fall in love back with it. You're 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:50.040 gonna be the stripper. You're gonna be the stripper that 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:53.399 walks over and be like, man, man, these niggers keep 0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:57.759 throwing money at me. I'm sorry, man, I don't know 0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:05.160 where about. I don't wait, ship got man, were lady 0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:07.360 to strip us and ship It's crazy. I think the 0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:09.280 difference is what you were saying. It's it's a difference 0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.520 between one thing to do it. Yeah, and have to 0:51:11.640 --> 0:51:14.279 do you know, when you when you when you when 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.000 you want to do something, like you were saying, like 0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:18.680 you develop more love for you to develop more skills 0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:24.200 for it, like, um, you know. I remember speaking to 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.120 Buster one time and Buster said to me, he said, 0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:30.480 you don't I don't do no nineties parties. And I 0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.680 had to ask him. I said, wow, he said, because 0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:35.799 if I do a nineties parties, that's the way they 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:38.400 want to keep me at Do you think that's Do 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.040 you think that's all? Like he feels he's gonna be 0:51:41.080 --> 0:51:43.279 pigeon hell to that. I mean Busters case. I'm not 0:51:43.320 --> 0:51:45.080 saying in the Busters case. I'm saying in your case, 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:48.160 like or and in your case you do whatever, okay, 0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:50.520 Like it's kind of like the the thing about that 0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:52.640 if you do a nineties party, just do your nineties ship. 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:55.680 You know that you don't have to do that everywhere. 0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:59.160 I think, you know, it's kind of like, um, you 0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:02.479 know we I pretty much know what I'm going into 0:52:02.920 --> 0:52:06.400 to a certain degree. I know how how deep I 0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:10.560 gotta go. I know how much is it me doing 0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:12.880 what I do and how much is it I have 0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:16.759 to split what I do to what you want, so 0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:18.440 you kind of you kind of know that, so I 0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:22.000 knock on wood. I'm never going into something blind, you know, 0:52:23.280 --> 0:52:26.160 just just completely like listen, I do a hundred and 0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:33.000 sixty hundred and seventy days a year wrestling. That is 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:37.719 that is wrestling, get a lot of money. But you know, 0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:41.040 it's it's it's you understand, you know, like I know 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.839 what this club is gonna be like to a certain degree, 0:52:43.920 --> 0:52:45.560 Like I got I got a range that it's gonna 0:52:45.560 --> 0:52:47.840 be here and here. You know, I know when I 0:52:47.920 --> 0:52:50.120 go overseas and I do these tours like this is 0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.160 this is where I'm at. You know, I know, you know, 0:52:53.239 --> 0:52:55.480 you do the bottle service, your range might have to 0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:57.840 be a little bit shifted to the left. You know, 0:52:57.960 --> 0:52:59.760 I go to Germany, I know my ship is shifted 0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.160 to the right, you know, and you just and you 0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:04.600 just kind of know, like that's that's your job is 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:08.280 to kind of figure out your environment. Let's think about 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:10.800 being a DJ is y'all think it's our geniuses. You 0:53:10.920 --> 0:53:13.719 could actually go there. Listen, my DJ. I'mna tell you 0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:15.640 what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna say no, no, 0:53:15.960 --> 0:53:19.200 never said the story, but Butcher used to always go 0:53:19.400 --> 0:53:21.560 to my show was thirty minutes before and tell me, 0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:24.240 because you know, I got Spanish records, I got fucking 0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:27.920 you know, CNN records, I got NORRY records. So what 0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:30.840 DJ would go and he would study the crown for 0:53:31.000 --> 0:53:34.320 half an hour. But this one time we didn't go. 0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.879 We went on time and we were late. So on time, 0:53:38.880 --> 0:53:41.719 it's late, and I kid you not, God bless his soul. 0:53:42.840 --> 0:53:45.480 Prodigy was out there on stage, but he had a 0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:48.600 DAT so he must have came as DJ him in Havings, 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:52.759 d I think DJ missed the flight so I had 0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:57.840 never a new popcorn fly they do popcorn. I was like, 0:53:58.080 --> 0:54:04.759 I'm not going out there. I said, no way. If 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:11.560 they don't popcorn on that pee. This is the god 0:54:11.719 --> 0:54:14.879 at the time, my DJ, in my mind, I don't 0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:17.080 think he did it, but in my mind he smacked 0:54:17.120 --> 0:54:21.920 me and said, shut up, you're going out there. It's 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.719 the first time he started with super Dog. Super Dog 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:28.200 was closerup, what what what? And he was like fun 0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:31.759 and my mind he smacked me. I'm sure he came. 0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:34.800 What was trying? He was like, shut up and just 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.200 and he never gave me the list. We didn't go 0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:39.200 with no records. He just went out there and he 0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:41.759 went to all the number one you know, the ones 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:44.480 you saved. We went to the Rose, first five, put 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:47.799 it in the crowd, started all night Loomotive was because 0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:49.120 like it was, it was one us all night. You 0:54:49.200 --> 0:54:52.600 saved the show. Russian guy, I just kept putting his 0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:57.319 hands on my hand in my neck because money go out. 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:01.399 But that's why, that's why I look like a good 0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:04.600 DJ will sit there and say, y'all, I know exactly 0:55:04.640 --> 0:55:08.040 what you hey. Sometimes one time was in Germany and 0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:10.360 everybody in the crowds from her Duris. I had no 0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:16.200 idea from it made no sense. It made no sense 0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:20.000 from my DJ. My DJ was in the crowd and 0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:22.360 knew that, and he played my Spanish record, So I 0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:28.400 killed the ground. Let's basically geman want the spars. I'm sorry, man, 0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:30.839 go on, think if I'm not wrong, he's that crazy. 0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:37.320 Ain't crack back. Then let's talk time. DJ lat me 0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.759 come on at tracks going on. I see you on 0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:44.440 the day. That's right, that's something that's crazy going on. 0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:49.200 Baby man, Real DJ ship Man, Real DJ was gonna 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:53.439 love Real DJ ship. You know how much I listened 0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:55.160 to every time I see you. I tell y'all listen 0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:59.800 to the Oh listen, you guys got any questions, but 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.680 come on, I know you gotta be inspiration to y'all, 0:56:03.920 --> 0:56:06.799 to me, to y'all. You know, then listen, you don't. 0:56:06.840 --> 0:56:14.960 That's the one. Let's make some ually like on that 0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.759 career bad right now, That's what we were saying. The longevity, 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:21.560 the longest here you could speak into it. Someone you 0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:25.560 give a child, man, I'm sorry, we don't organized eyes. 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:32.960 Come on, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, this guy's incredible. Man. 0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.640 We we we we we we salute our legends over here, 0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:39.239 and then it will be something you know, legends to 0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:46.080 it exactly, exactly, crazy as the Pride of Miami. Yeah, man, 0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.520 and listen, I didn't start as young as a track. 0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:53.200 So how young did you start? I started at thirteen? 0:56:53.719 --> 0:56:58.560 Was wait a minute, world champion? Yeah yeah, yeah, pick 0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:02.920 that up? Whoa wait? Wait wait? The world champion of that? 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:09.600 It was? It was the DMC World Championships. We all 0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:12.200 used to do all these battles. Jeff before us, but 0:57:12.320 --> 0:57:14.360 me and Craz won a bunch of these world titles. 0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:16.480 When how were you to do when I saw you 0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:23.800 that first battle of fifteen. That's the real and DJs 0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:29.960 rappers don't notice. DJs is you're starting out real real, 0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:33.880 like you don't get paid good at first. You gotta 0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:36.640 be good to get paid because there's a lot of locals, Yeah, 0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:41.160 that don't really get paid. Yeah, you know what, shut up. 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:44.520 Shout out to the DJ's held all down. Yeah yeah, 0:57:44.760 --> 0:57:47.080 big up to all the club dj and the DJs 0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:49.800 that have residencies every week because they hold down their 0:57:49.880 --> 0:57:53.280 market and their their job is actually tougher than ours, 0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:55.520 I think because if they don't, like Jeff was talking 0:57:55.560 --> 0:57:57.760 about being a servant of the crowd, you know, at 0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:00.520 least we have the luxury to have a certain weights 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:02.160 our name, so when we show up in the venue, 0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:05.080 we can still steer it where we want. But if 0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:07.320 you're the resident DJ at the club and you're not 0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:10.840 playing with the crowd wants, don't just leave. They'll they'll leave, 0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:13.120 they'll leave the dance floor. The manager will take you off. 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:17.200 Like Actually, those that like their jobs like it's like 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:20.120 the y'allow the closer DJ's right, So is there a 0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:23.360 rule like the opening DJ comes, this is their records 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:29.400 that he shouldn't play. It used to be ethics there's no, 0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:32.360 but I'm saying that there should be. But now there's 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:33.640 if we see a lot of people that don't really 0:58:33.680 --> 0:58:36.040 respect that. So so if the number one record is 0:58:36.080 --> 0:58:38.760 out and the opening DJ he can't play it, and 0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:40.240 you guys won't take it, well, I'm gonna tell you 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:44.400 what the difference is is, especially these guys, what you 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:48.440 do is the number one record, Like it's not the record, 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:51.360 you know what I mean? Like there's a level that 0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:54.400 I'm coming to see Crazy, I'm coming to see a track. 0:58:54.440 --> 0:58:56.600 I'm not necessarily coming to see what Crazy and a 0:58:56.720 --> 0:58:59.880 track are going to play. There the entity of themselves 0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:02.240 that it's kind of like when you get to that level, 0:59:02.680 --> 0:59:04.240 you almost a kind of like I don't given what 0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:07.919 you play instruments people, but I don't care what you play. 0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:10.480 But not just that. It's kind of like I've seen 0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:13.480 both of these guys play numerous of times. There's a 0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:17.400 man fucking records. I'm not gonna be mad because you 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:20.360 played one of the records And I had that with 0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:25.600 somebody that they had a pre something mapped out set 0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.080 and I played a couple of records and it was 0:59:28.160 --> 0:59:30.200 like you freaked out, and I was just like fucking 0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:33.800 to play something like if you would play this, I'm 0:59:33.840 --> 0:59:36.680 gonna play something different. Like you looked at it, you 0:59:36.760 --> 0:59:38.800 know what I mean. Like, it's not like I'm going 0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:42.160 on stage and I'm performing one of jay Z's records. 0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:46.480 Before jay Z. It's like because certain DJ's used to 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:53.280 facts a list to venues. If you books such and 0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:56.480 such in your city, as like the promoter the or 0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:58.480 the club own or whatever, you would receive a list 0:59:58.560 --> 1:00:00.680 of records to give to your o opener to say, 1:00:01.120 --> 1:00:04.160 do not play the records from this list disrespected the 1:00:04.200 --> 1:00:07.880 opener did play it. But that's also because before Serato 1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:10.600 and all of that, as the DJ would travel to 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:13.680 your city with whatever, three crates of records and that's 1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:17.000 all he had. So DJ before played a couple of 1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:18.880 those records, you're like, yo, this, I don't have other 1:00:18.960 --> 1:00:21.080 stuff to play. So that's changed with the digital age. 1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:26.640 I have a question for Jeff actually on that topic 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:28.480 of like playing to the crowd and traveling and everything. 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:31.000 Like I know one thing that I'm sure we've all 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:34.520 noticed this, like in the in the last ten plus years, 1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:37.720 once you know, blogs and the Internet and everything really 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:40.400 connected the whole world and it got to a point where, 1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:45.240 you know, youth culture in North America, Europe, Asia, Latin America, 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:48.280 after Africa, everyone has been listening to the same records 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:50.240 at the same time through the internet. Right. But I 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:53.800 remember early even my early trips to certain parts of 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:55.800 Asia where I would play, start playing the crowd and 1:00:55.880 --> 1:00:58.880 being like, oh shit, they I don't even know what 1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:01.680 records they know and like here, So like for you, 1:01:01.880 --> 1:01:04.600 Jeff ro was that like going to certain what if 1:01:04.920 --> 1:01:10.120 I I've always had a tunnel vision right, wrong and different. 1:01:10.320 --> 1:01:13.440 It's kind of like I am I am the state 1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:16.680 big potato and salad that you get in the restaurant. 1:01:16.680 --> 1:01:19.520 I'm gonna give you this ship and you're not. If 1:01:19.600 --> 1:01:22.920 you book state big Potato in salad, you're gonna get it. 1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:25.760 And it's kind of like, you know sometimes you know, 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:29.360 there were times that it didn't. You know, for the 1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:32.240 most part, it's kind of like I believe that you know, 1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:35.880 if people are booking you for you that it's kind 1:01:35.880 --> 1:01:39.600 of like, you know, especially you really gotta stick to 1:01:40.680 --> 1:01:43.520 I'm gonna do me when I don't know what this is. 1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:46.960 When you are unsure, the one thing that you were 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:49.400 sure of is yourself and it's kind of like I 1:01:49.480 --> 1:01:53.040 don't know what language they're speaking, but I'm gonna play, 1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:58.439 Biggie what you were saying that you guys felt about 1:01:58.440 --> 1:02:00.560 New York. You have this perception, and I'm sure when 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:02.120 you go to these places in that area, they just 1:02:02.200 --> 1:02:05.040 had a perception. They just wanted Jeff. They're playing. But 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:08.520 let me tell me, because you guys as DJs as 1:02:08.560 --> 1:02:10.880 this record, I don't know whose sings in. I don't 1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:14.440 know what they're saying. I like it, I just don't know, am, 1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:27.840 I don't point it goes Moe. Is that one of 1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:32.000 the highest records for a year. I don't know what. 1:02:33.160 --> 1:02:41.520 I don't know what. I don't know what who, I 1:02:41.600 --> 1:02:45.439 don't know, I can't under but there is that those 1:02:45.520 --> 1:02:50.040 words may be art and if I'm not mistaken, I 1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:53.480 think the title is after the dude that plays for 1:02:53.560 --> 1:02:58.040 the man, Orlando. That's his man, so he named it 1:02:58.160 --> 1:03:01.160 after his man. Who's the best, Well, who's a wokie? Yeah? 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:04.200 And then homies like Scheck and Obamba. I think they 1:03:04.200 --> 1:03:06.160 went to school again, that's how their homies or something. 1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:11.120 So and then Check named the record after Now you bet, Kanye, 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:15.120 but what was your affiliation with Kanye and official tour 1:03:15.240 --> 1:03:18.280 DJ for years. I just did one year. Chris came 1:03:18.280 --> 1:03:21.120 in after Ilia when when I left when I started 1:03:21.160 --> 1:03:24.160 Fool's Gold, and I told, yeah, I'm not just gonna 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:25.520 leave you high and driving to give you the best 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:34.160 TJ in the world. Chris Man. Yeah, So now how 1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:36.120 is it? How is both of you guys been on 1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:39.520 tour card for our fans who probably won't know or 1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:41.960 ever get a chance to imagine that. Who's breathing that hard? 1:03:42.040 --> 1:03:48.160 You need guys, because now I'm just telling you have 1:03:48.280 --> 1:03:53.360 to pay way too much. I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:55.360 I just did one year, so like was in and 1:03:55.440 --> 1:03:58.720 out and I couldn't DJ from anymore because I was 1:03:58.760 --> 1:04:01.240 just like I want to beat my yeah, And I 1:04:01.320 --> 1:04:03.400 feel like when when you came in something like the 1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:06.400 staging change. I was lucky because I came in right 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:08.440 at the start, like when I when I got the 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:11.560 job college dropout. It just came out and if you 1:04:11.600 --> 1:04:14.640 went to see a show, it was yeah, me and 1:04:14.760 --> 1:04:16.960 John Legend on stage and that was it. I would 1:04:17.000 --> 1:04:19.600 play the tracks, John would you know, play piano on top, 1:04:19.720 --> 1:04:23.240 sing and the show was us. And it was a 1:04:23.280 --> 1:04:26.400 really cool experience because we all kind of grew together, 1:04:26.520 --> 1:04:29.160 and then when he decided to bring in a string section, 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:31.280 he would have me speak to the string section and 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:35.840 kind of like help director. Yeah, Orgestra, Yeah, like I 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:39.160 had to learn how to like talk to hardcast. Yeah, 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:42.120 this is the part where so the learning process was cool, 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:44.600 and like we all come from a very you know, 1:04:44.720 --> 1:04:48.520 from like an underground hip hop place where, and I 1:04:48.600 --> 1:04:50.800 think all of us started with battles. Also, So our 1:04:50.880 --> 1:04:54.120 first couple of years we were we were performing to 1:04:54.320 --> 1:04:57.720 an audience that was like sort of in on the jump, 1:04:57.800 --> 1:04:59.800 like an audience that knows everything that we know. They 1:04:59.840 --> 1:05:02.560 know same codes. They had seen other DJs that were 1:05:02.600 --> 1:05:05.320 as technical as us. So we're sort of preaching to 1:05:05.360 --> 1:05:07.880 the choir. Fir, this is the big polo cane right 1:05:08.280 --> 1:05:10.400 right right, So, and I'm saying like even prior to that, 1:05:10.640 --> 1:05:14.080 I was I was performing to crowds that already knew 1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:17.160 what I was doing on stage because you know, turntableism, 1:05:17.160 --> 1:05:19.600 I've gotten pretty technical in advance, but the crowd knew 1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:21.480 that I was doing. What I enjoyed with the Kanye 1:05:21.560 --> 1:05:24.520 experience was I had to perform for crowds that had 1:05:24.560 --> 1:05:27.080 no idea what I was doing and I have to 1:05:27.120 --> 1:05:29.000 figure out to still make it work. So the growth 1:05:29.120 --> 1:05:31.200 with that was cool because I went from you know, 1:05:31.280 --> 1:05:34.040 working in a sort of closed circle, so then that 1:05:34.200 --> 1:05:37.120 box breaking open. You know, you definitely side with all 1:05:37.120 --> 1:05:38.760 the turn with will too when you're in front of 1:05:38.800 --> 1:05:41.880 a crowd that's like, you know, teenage girls that like 1:05:42.040 --> 1:05:45.320 that song from MTV and you and your your m 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:48.080 C is like, all right, now show them why you're 1:05:48.080 --> 1:05:49.960 the greatest DJ in the world. You've got to convince 1:05:50.000 --> 1:05:52.400 an audience that doesn't even know what you're about to do, 1:05:53.080 --> 1:05:55.480 and that forces you to learn how to adapt your craft. 1:05:56.000 --> 1:05:59.040 So that growth was cool. You think DJs get the 1:05:59.080 --> 1:06:02.120 amount of props to the desserved No, no, no, I 1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:07.000 mean I think I think it's better now as Yeah, 1:06:07.120 --> 1:06:09.120 I mean, but but you know what, and and and 1:06:09.760 --> 1:06:13.640 I didn't. I didn't think bad of the the DJ 1:06:13.920 --> 1:06:17.680 explosion because I think we were in the dark for 1:06:17.800 --> 1:06:20.560 so long that I accepted the explosion that was just 1:06:21.440 --> 1:06:25.240 the counteract. Like, you know, I felt like the DJ 1:06:25.600 --> 1:06:29.400 was cast aside, especially in hip hop. Like I've really 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:31.400 started to get angry because I'm kind of like every 1:06:31.520 --> 1:06:33.720 rock group in the world has a DJ and every 1:06:33.800 --> 1:06:37.200 hip hop artists and has a death machine, you know, 1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:38.800 and it was just kind of like wow, like this 1:06:39.000 --> 1:06:42.000 is this this all kind of went together. But what 1:06:42.120 --> 1:06:45.360 happened was you cast us deside, and we just kind 1:06:45.360 --> 1:06:48.200 of created a world on our own that's kind of like, 1:06:48.240 --> 1:06:49.760 well ship, if we are the ones that play the 1:06:49.840 --> 1:06:52.840 music for people to dance. Because I really thought that 1:06:53.800 --> 1:06:59.960 Vegas was going to be Bismarcki jay Z, Like I've 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:02.120 thought like, okay, we got Sammy Davis Jr. All of 1:07:02.240 --> 1:07:05.360 us that I thought that the growth of Vegas was 1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:09.240 going to be the performers in hip hop, not the DJs. 1:07:09.680 --> 1:07:11.600 But it got to the point that it was kind 1:07:11.600 --> 1:07:14.320 of like, well ship, you got one good record, six 1:07:14.440 --> 1:07:17.760 bad records. He can play all good records. I'm gonna 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:19.800 get him to play it. I don't need to see 1:07:19.840 --> 1:07:23.640 you perform. I can have him play your record, you know. 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:26.840 And a lot of that was because there was no togetherness. 1:07:26.920 --> 1:07:29.000 We we were pushed to the side. Whether we was 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:32.160 kind of like yeo, let's start our own networking community, 1:07:32.240 --> 1:07:35.440 and and it just blew up on the side. And 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:39.920 now everybody who raps wants to be a DJ, you know, 1:07:40.120 --> 1:07:42.040 everybody wants to be a d jack. Now I'm not 1:07:42.120 --> 1:07:46.120 gonna I thought I could DJ for a second. I 1:07:46.240 --> 1:07:49.960 didn't try, I didn't go publicly. And you know what's 1:07:51.680 --> 1:07:55.600 I do not get mad at anybody on earth who 1:07:55.840 --> 1:07:58.400 wants to try to be a DJ. I am not 1:07:58.600 --> 1:08:02.120 mad at You're not mad at J. Let me tell you. 1:08:02.280 --> 1:08:06.680 Let me tell you what it's. It's but what I'm 1:08:06.720 --> 1:08:09.760 not gonna do. I am not gonna not play high 1:08:09.760 --> 1:08:14.440 school ball, college ball. Send me pro and go and 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:18.360 try it for the sixers. I think that's disrespectful. It's 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:20.439 disrespectful for all of the people that put in all 1:08:20.479 --> 1:08:23.519 of the time. You can play ball, but there's a 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:27.320 different level. So I'm kind of like, then you just 1:08:27.560 --> 1:08:30.800 need to be prepared to somebody throw you on the 1:08:30.880 --> 1:08:36.120 floor against the Knicks and you Anthony, and you gotta 1:08:36.160 --> 1:08:48.720 take that happen comes and starts walking off. Somebody who 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:50.640 gets into it or wants to get into it, or 1:08:50.680 --> 1:08:52.920 cares about getting into it, you know, the more to 1:08:53.000 --> 1:08:56.000 marry it. But it's kind of like I've said on 1:08:56.120 --> 1:09:01.439 occasions that I'm never worried about another DJ more than 1:09:01.479 --> 1:09:06.479 I'm worried about myself. Like it's it's so because the 1:09:06.520 --> 1:09:09.519 person can control the playlist, don't mean controller party. Listen. 1:09:09.680 --> 1:09:13.200 Let me tell you something I've always said, learning to 1:09:13.280 --> 1:09:15.479 be a great DJ is not about the good night. 1:09:15.560 --> 1:09:19.400 This is about how you do the bad. It's about 1:09:19.520 --> 1:09:24.880 how you listen. Because we all know that night that 1:09:25.080 --> 1:09:30.000 I'm like, yo, I'm it's kind of like yo. Like 1:09:30.320 --> 1:09:32.920 I've looked at my watch and I'm like, i gotta 1:09:32.960 --> 1:09:35.880 play two hours and i got an hour and fifty 1:09:36.000 --> 1:09:38.479 five minutes left. Let me tell you something I did. 1:09:38.960 --> 1:09:43.160 This guy in Canada voked me. He was the Soaker 1:09:43.280 --> 1:09:46.439 Prince of Canada. This motherfucker was like, I want you 1:09:46.520 --> 1:09:48.519 to play this POxy Listen. I don't know shit about 1:09:48.600 --> 1:09:50.960 something I'm not said, it don't matter. I want you 1:09:51.080 --> 1:09:53.519 to do you. I stuck to my guns and was 1:09:53.600 --> 1:10:01.400 like no, no, no, no, fucking When I tell you, 1:10:01.680 --> 1:10:05.840 I walked in and never realized that Soca was a 1:10:05.960 --> 1:10:09.599 hundred and ninety vo PPM and it was didn't didn't 1:10:10.640 --> 1:10:14.920 and it was three thousand. Motherfucker's name was Crazy And 1:10:16.920 --> 1:10:20.120 let me tell you, we got me nervous. Right before 1:10:20.200 --> 1:10:24.200 I went on. He walked over. He said, still for 1:10:24.200 --> 1:10:27.720 you to drop a couple of socer records said I 1:10:27.880 --> 1:10:30.920 told you because he was like, you know, if you 1:10:31.280 --> 1:10:34.519 if you want, and I came on and when I 1:10:34.720 --> 1:10:38.400 tell you, I will never in my life forget the 1:10:38.560 --> 1:10:41.680 girl in the front row because I didn't play the 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:45.200 whole set. I played maybe like thirty minutes, but for 1:10:45.439 --> 1:10:50.040 twenty seven minutes she was like this. She would not 1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:54.800 stop shaking her hand, like Dave was so fu mad 1:10:55.040 --> 1:10:57.599 for me. And then you know, because you go through 1:10:57.640 --> 1:11:03.599 that ego like fuck it, y'all playing Canada, I'm a plow. 1:11:04.400 --> 1:11:09.400 You know. It's Caribbean people with attitudes and it's cold 1:11:09.439 --> 1:11:13.880 and Canada, and but you have everybody has the names 1:11:14.479 --> 1:11:16.920 and I'm like, yo, as a DJ, you learned how 1:11:17.000 --> 1:11:19.800 to get through those nights. Like you know, it's kind 1:11:19.840 --> 1:11:22.519 of like we all kind of know what we want 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:26.120 to play, but we all have the ability to make 1:11:26.240 --> 1:11:31.120 a motherfucking detour and a heartbeat because you have to 1:11:31.360 --> 1:11:34.519 like listen, I'm not gonna fit that round pig in 1:11:34.560 --> 1:11:37.320 the square holes that's gonna fit. I'm grabbing another pig, 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:41.080 you know. But you you know, and I'm like a 1:11:41.200 --> 1:11:45.360 lot of these new guys no one way, they don't 1:11:45.880 --> 1:11:48.599 trouble shoot and it's kind of like you can see, 1:11:48.680 --> 1:11:51.519 you can see like you know, we had plenty of 1:11:51.600 --> 1:11:54.960 times standing on stage like yo, he's he's going down 1:11:55.040 --> 1:11:59.040 in the flame. He's going down, Like I feel bad. 1:11:59.479 --> 1:12:02.840 You know that's how you figured out you have a 1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:06.160 you have a tape? Are you a world together? We 1:12:06.479 --> 1:12:09.679 had we had a We never had a bad show. 1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:14.720 But we did the Apollo that you didn't get. No, no, 1:12:15.720 --> 1:12:18.000 I tell you, we were on the edge. It would 1:12:18.040 --> 1:12:23.240 be sa come out. We didn't do that Apolo. We 1:12:23.360 --> 1:12:27.240 did Apollo Theater. But we did the Apollo Theater with 1:12:27.439 --> 1:12:32.880 Guy at the height of guide them and we were headlining, 1:12:33.600 --> 1:12:35.519 and it was kind of like, yo, who the fund 1:12:35.560 --> 1:12:40.479 made us headline with Guy in Now y'all fucking groove 1:12:40.600 --> 1:12:45.120 me and and and I think I which was already 1:12:45.120 --> 1:12:48.960 a little suspect, you know, and I'm a man. That 1:12:49.040 --> 1:12:50.760 ship was hot. But the bad thing is we did 1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:53.479 two shows. We did a matinee show, which we got 1:12:53.640 --> 1:12:55.880 through by the skin of our teeth, and then we 1:12:55.960 --> 1:12:59.160 had to do the nighttime show and both up all yes, 1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:06.080 same and the waiting for that second show hand sweating 1:13:06.320 --> 1:13:11.920 because we like yo, we we can't go him after 1:13:12.080 --> 1:13:16.560 God like you can't go on after Teddy Riley and 1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:20.160 hard Teddy could spit from his crew, do you know? 1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:24.320 And yeah, it was you know, I never want to 1:13:24.360 --> 1:13:26.040 think about them day. So you want to think so 1:13:26.120 --> 1:13:28.240 you would label at your work show not not not 1:13:28.400 --> 1:13:32.080 a bad show, but yo, like you're not so great? 1:13:32.360 --> 1:13:34.320 Yeah that was that was it. I mean, you know 1:13:34.479 --> 1:13:37.880 we we we should. What's your favorite show man? I 1:13:38.000 --> 1:13:40.040 can't because that's that, you know. I don't know if 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:42.840 I wanted the standouts ones where you you just it 1:13:43.000 --> 1:13:47.160 was like, well, you know, what's crazy? After twenty years, 1:13:47.240 --> 1:13:49.880 Will and I did two shows last year. We did 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:52.080 a show in Croatia and we did a show on 1:13:52.160 --> 1:13:55.080 Blackpool in the UK, um and it was just us 1:13:55.640 --> 1:14:00.040 and it was like thirty thou people um and and 1:14:00.160 --> 1:14:03.160 it was you know, it was it was. It was 1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:06.320 different because you don't know, you know, it's kind of 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:10.560 like ship we're doing these shows. I don't know, like 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:16.519 from that from I have no idea what my old 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:20.000 Will's relevancy to the world is. You know, you hear it, 1:14:20.880 --> 1:14:27.280 but but I want the legend. But you I almost 1:14:27.360 --> 1:14:30.200 think everybody's lying to you, So you don't know, but 1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:32.640 I understand. I mean, listen, you know you don't know, 1:14:33.600 --> 1:14:35.400 you know, And and to me it's it's safer for 1:14:35.640 --> 1:14:37.559 me not knowing, because you know, I don't know where 1:14:37.560 --> 1:14:41.280 i'd be if if But it's just you know, so 1:14:42.560 --> 1:14:45.479 so going out and you know, somebody selling the show 1:14:45.560 --> 1:14:47.880 with tickets and all the rest of this. You just 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:50.559 kind of like that is anybody gonna show up? How 1:14:50.640 --> 1:14:53.000 do you know? But to watch people show up and 1:14:53.280 --> 1:14:57.240 with albums and fresh princivallet of jerseys and jackets and 1:14:58.040 --> 1:15:00.920 you know, and it was just um, and it was 1:15:00.960 --> 1:15:05.200 crazy because during the show, Um, I had a monitor 1:15:05.320 --> 1:15:07.240 in Will's air. Then I had a microphone that I 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:09.439 could talk to him doing the show, and I was like, yo, 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:13.040 tell everybody to put up their phone and turn their 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:20.280 flashlights on. And when he when he said it, I 1:15:20.479 --> 1:15:22.920 was so overwhelmed that I couldn't pick my phone up 1:15:22.960 --> 1:15:26.000 and take a picture of it. Like I frozzed because too, 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:29.760 because it was on a pier and you know, in 1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:33.160 in England, and you couldn't see how far the crowd 1:15:33.240 --> 1:15:35.640 went back. So when everybody put their light on and 1:15:35.760 --> 1:15:39.400 you kind of saw how far thirty thousand people went back. 1:15:40.120 --> 1:15:42.799 I couldn't pick my phone up and take a picture 1:15:43.479 --> 1:15:46.679 because you were just kind of like like and listen, 1:15:46.760 --> 1:15:48.479 we ain't never got to do another show in life. 1:15:49.120 --> 1:15:53.560 I'm good, you know. Goddam Let's make some noise for 1:15:53.600 --> 1:15:59.640 that guy. Where was this a real crazy show? He 1:15:59.760 --> 1:16:04.400 just he just jumped in the Grand Canyon bungee jump 1:16:05.560 --> 1:16:07.880 the Grand can I was scared the depth the whole 1:16:07.920 --> 1:16:11.280 time on Instagram looking at that. Were you there? I 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:15.160 wasn't going to that, But did you watch it? Oh? Yeah, 1:16:15.160 --> 1:16:19.519 I watched it. There's nobody nobody close to him like that, 1:16:20.920 --> 1:16:24.200 nobody like Charlie Curson on that you know, Charlie cursonal 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:27.400 Live TV. Because he you know, he was uncomfortable. We 1:16:27.520 --> 1:16:32.120 all were uncomfortable because I might did that. No, is 1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:34.400 that comfortable? Is having too much money? You just want 1:16:34.439 --> 1:16:38.920 to do whatever you want, he said, I've just asked 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:42.200 to be an interress. Will couldn't swim And I watched 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:45.160 Will cliffdove in Jamaica. He paid a guy to be 1:16:45.280 --> 1:16:47.519 in the water at the bottom and he cliff over 1:16:47.800 --> 1:16:52.560 in Jamaica in the water and he couldn't swim. So 1:16:52.800 --> 1:16:58.439 understand his thing. Yeah, listen, his thing has always been 1:16:59.080 --> 1:17:02.080 if I'm afraid of it, I'm running to it. I 1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:04.640 ain't got that needed, I ain't got none of that 1:17:05.120 --> 1:17:08.240 big man. Listen. But that's always been his name. Listen. 1:17:08.320 --> 1:17:12.120 He was terrifying of that jumping what he jumped in 1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:15.560 the Grand Grand Can. There ain't no there ain't no 1:17:15.600 --> 1:17:17.840 black people. Ship. I'm starting out there. It ain't some 1:17:17.840 --> 1:17:21.320 black people. I'm wiping and ship. It's so I'm rich 1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:23.320 and I'm just it's I don't think it's a color 1:17:23.400 --> 1:17:28.760 at all. This has no color. I'm rich and I 1:17:28.880 --> 1:17:30.960 have I'm just gonna live my best life for real, 1:17:31.439 --> 1:17:34.800 for real like that, because that's getting high, like that's 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:36.760 getting hot, like you know with these kids are these 1:17:36.760 --> 1:17:40.519 percosects and it's lean. That's not hot. Rush from that. 1:17:40.600 --> 1:17:42.639 It's crazy, but you could it could be the old 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:46.840 One and the Grand Canyon. I'm good. Do you got 1:17:46.880 --> 1:17:52.000 you have a had a bad show? A god, I'm 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:54.680 one of those DJs that sticks to his guns. And 1:17:55.120 --> 1:17:58.320 that's a bad. It's more of like I just wanted 1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:00.200 I want it to me. So you're in there playing 1:18:00.280 --> 1:18:04.479 chief keeping wonta bregage? Though one Danny set a hip 1:18:04.520 --> 1:18:07.160 hop playing I'm playing druming bass at a hip hop 1:18:07.200 --> 1:18:10.120 clup back when like that show was not et M 1:18:10.160 --> 1:18:14.360 and hip hop or not, I think, wow, early early 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:16.800 two thousands. So yeah, I was just going to be like, 1:18:16.880 --> 1:18:18.400 this is what I like on my and you would 1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:20.200 stick with it and stick with it, and is it 1:18:20.280 --> 1:18:23.000 a sign that you're sucking up? Like he said, the 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:26.519 girl was looking at the crowd starts apart. He started 1:18:26.560 --> 1:18:29.240 to seeing everybody to tell, but I would usually do 1:18:29.320 --> 1:18:30.880 it at the end of the night, though, so I 1:18:31.040 --> 1:18:32.920 make sure I give them what they wanted, you know, 1:18:33.040 --> 1:18:35.280 come seeing you do my thing and I'm playing, You're like, 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:37.720 and then I bes like I teennis you know for 1:18:37.840 --> 1:18:41.599 me do my thing you Yeah, definitely, I think every 1:18:41.680 --> 1:18:44.719 DJ has had that show was one of your moments. 1:18:46.320 --> 1:18:48.080 To me. A bad shows also if you show up 1:18:48.120 --> 1:18:51.840 in some city and there's like no one there, yeah, 1:18:51.840 --> 1:18:53.120 I mean you show up and you're like, I some 1:18:53.200 --> 1:19:04.200 of my best shows with like people that these things. 1:19:07.479 --> 1:19:12.240 I'm but as DJ's, we gotta figure out a vibe, 1:19:12.240 --> 1:19:14.280 even though you know, sometimes that bad show could also 1:19:14.320 --> 1:19:18.040 be a full room, but you could like we gotta 1:19:18.120 --> 1:19:20.479 like read the crowd, right, so we're looking. I remember 1:19:21.120 --> 1:19:22.400 like one show where I was looking and be like, 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:26.400 all right, this area wants like house music, in this 1:19:26.600 --> 1:19:29.840 area wants new hip hop, this area wants old hip hop. 1:19:29.920 --> 1:19:32.680 In this area wants like E. D M. Trap kind 1:19:32.720 --> 1:19:35.360 of stuff. And I gotta like figure out a flow 1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:39.080 that makes everyone happy. And sometimes you just can't. That's 1:19:39.120 --> 1:19:41.000 like you gotta crack a code. Sometimes you just don't 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:42.840 crack the code. At night, You're like I try my best, 1:19:43.160 --> 1:19:50.920 Like yesterday lose at dawn dsces a bit um and 1:19:51.280 --> 1:19:56.040 that crowd was a little different, you know what I'm 1:19:56.040 --> 1:19:58.080 trying to say. It's just all different types of people. 1:19:58.160 --> 1:20:02.280 You've got multiple industry people in the and how by 1:20:02.320 --> 1:20:04.760 the way, it was like a like a like an 1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:07.120 open bar kind of event, so that draws all kinds 1:20:07.120 --> 1:20:11.400 of people like free alcohol. Now think about it, how 1:20:11.439 --> 1:20:14.280 do you attack like that? Like? I mean that one 1:20:14.360 --> 1:20:16.880 to me was for me was also kind of casual 1:20:16.920 --> 1:20:19.800 because it was my friends product launch. I wasn't I 1:20:20.000 --> 1:20:21.680 wasn't even looking at it that much on something like 1:20:21.720 --> 1:20:23.040 ye know, I got to rock the crowd. I was 1:20:23.120 --> 1:20:25.880 just thinking, here's a bunch of like influencer types that 1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:29.400 came to support you. Know an event, let me just 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:32.200 play some records that they probably didn't expect to hear, 1:20:32.280 --> 1:20:34.200 but that they that they still like. Because a lot 1:20:34.240 --> 1:20:36.360 of times, like I'll go into a party and think, 1:20:36.720 --> 1:20:38.280 I don't want to just make the crowd happy. I 1:20:38.320 --> 1:20:40.280 want to leave a lasting impression and for them to 1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:41.880 go home and tell their friends and be like, yo, 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:44.559 a track played this record last night. I never expected 1:20:44.600 --> 1:20:46.680 to hear that, but it worked. Like, I want to 1:20:46.720 --> 1:20:49.840 surprise people. That's a big difference between djaying and being 1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:51.639 an m C. Whereas and m C. You're doing your songs, 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:55.000 but we could play any of the bazillion songs. It's 1:20:55.040 --> 1:20:57.160 upt us to choose stuff that will work, but hopefully 1:20:57.200 --> 1:20:59.400 the surprises people. So the thing like that, Like last night, 1:20:59.439 --> 1:21:02.479 I'm just thinking, like, all right, these this crowd probably 1:21:02.600 --> 1:21:05.439 has been hearing the same ten songs three times a 1:21:05.560 --> 1:21:09.120 night because whole week during Basil, I mean, and let 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:11.479 me play a few different things to leave an impression. 1:21:11.640 --> 1:21:16.080 You guys prefer doing tables sets or playing full sets. 1:21:16.680 --> 1:21:19.040 I'm gonna be honest, as the person is not a DJ. 1:21:19.200 --> 1:21:24.360 I don't know what the funk you just said our instruments. 1:21:24.400 --> 1:21:26.320 What I'm saying these guys could do amazing things on 1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:28.120 the turntable and they could just do that and it 1:21:28.120 --> 1:21:30.280 would be like a show or do they want to 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:32.439 play like? You know, just like But I think the 1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:35.040 ultimate goal is to find to figure out to set 1:21:35.080 --> 1:21:37.160 that merges all of that, and that's I looked up 1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:40.760 to Jeff from way early on on that tip when 1:21:40.800 --> 1:21:42.400 I would go see him spin, even back when I 1:21:42.439 --> 1:21:44.120 lived in Montreal, and I'd be like, Yo, this is 1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:46.840 so ill because he's rocking the crowd, but he's also 1:21:46.960 --> 1:21:49.280 doing tricks that would normally make the crowd sort of 1:21:49.520 --> 1:21:52.439 stop and watch. They're still going with it and like 1:21:52.520 --> 1:21:56.000 finding that balance that's like the holy grail for technical 1:22:00.920 --> 1:22:03.320 So so, so what's your what's your favorite part of 1:22:03.400 --> 1:22:11.000 the UM? You know what I think? I think UM 1:22:12.240 --> 1:22:14.680 and and and crazy and Atrack can attest to this 1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:18.439 as a DJ. There's a point when you know you 1:22:18.560 --> 1:22:25.840 got and I say, sometimes you got them. Sometimes you 1:22:26.000 --> 1:22:29.160 can have them as soon as you walk on you 1:22:29.240 --> 1:22:31.760 ain't gotta play ship. It's like, yeah, this is and 1:22:31.800 --> 1:22:33.680 then sometimes it's like, oh, you're gonna fight me a 1:22:33.760 --> 1:22:39.880 little bit minutes to get you. I think what I 1:22:40.120 --> 1:22:44.719 like is knowing that I know what's about to happen 1:22:44.800 --> 1:22:48.479 three records from now, and you don't, like, I'm like, okay, 1:22:48.680 --> 1:22:50.600 keep that stone, like, especially when you get to do 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:52.479 that's in the front. You want to be in the front, 1:22:52.520 --> 1:22:55.160 but you want to have a stone face and I'm not, Oh, 1:22:55.439 --> 1:23:00.360 I'm listen, you're gonna nod your head like I'm betting 1:23:00.400 --> 1:23:03.040 money that my goal is kind of like because you 1:23:03.120 --> 1:23:05.240 don't know, and I'm watching me. I'm watching this smile 1:23:05.360 --> 1:23:07.639 come on and go off. I'm watching ice cream. I'm 1:23:07.680 --> 1:23:10.240 washing your hands loosen up to the point that at 1:23:10.280 --> 1:23:11.640 the end of the night you can't take it and 1:23:11.680 --> 1:23:13.080 you just say, fucking I'm gonna go to the back. 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:15.920 I got it, got to let go. But I think 1:23:16.520 --> 1:23:20.080 knowing that you know something that everybody else does it. 1:23:20.520 --> 1:23:23.920 But I know what this is gonna end, and I 1:23:24.000 --> 1:23:26.479 know where you're gonna be when this ends, But you 1:23:26.600 --> 1:23:29.840 don't know how do you deal with like, Like one 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:32.519 of my worst shows I've had was a guy was 1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:39.080 in a performing the Guys in the Front. Best it 1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:44.040 was your dude that seven songs like Relax. How do 1:23:44.120 --> 1:23:45.920 you deal with drunk people who just come out of you? 1:23:46.160 --> 1:23:49.439 I don't just request, but I am. I am the 1:23:49.760 --> 1:23:56.680 master already. I listen, I've had this pounds in my 1:23:56.880 --> 1:24:00.599 face and I'm like this, but I want to see, 1:24:00.640 --> 1:24:03.960 you know, because you'll get the guy. It's kind of like, yo, 1:24:04.200 --> 1:24:07.040 you know, you know, somebody just want I gotta come 1:24:07.120 --> 1:24:09.560 up and shake my hand, and especially now like my 1:24:09.640 --> 1:24:11.960 man got the cell phone, so get me, get getting 1:24:11.960 --> 1:24:18.280 your getting jets, like I'm right in the middle of something, 1:24:18.400 --> 1:24:20.600 like tell me what part of this did you Like? 1:24:20.800 --> 1:24:23.400 I saw the video that kid could pre did and 1:24:23.439 --> 1:24:25.080 I would never do it, but I gave him so 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:29.519 much problems that the girl kept asking him to play 1:24:29.640 --> 1:24:36.439 something and he stopped the music completely and was like, okay, 1:24:36.960 --> 1:24:39.760 since you want to funk up everybody's good time for 1:24:39.920 --> 1:24:41.800 what you want to hear. I want you to tell 1:24:41.840 --> 1:24:49.080 everybody what you want and listen. She started crying. She stopped. 1:24:49.360 --> 1:24:54.640 But it's kind of like, yo, like you kind of 1:24:54.760 --> 1:24:59.439 got you know, so it's you know, you just gotta 1:24:59.560 --> 1:25:03.080 know m that. I mean, I've seen that. I've seen 1:25:03.120 --> 1:25:05.840 that a couple of times, so you just know that's 1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:10.280 that's that's listen everybody, everybody, you know, I mean, which 1:25:10.360 --> 1:25:12.000 is a whole another issue. But it's kind of like 1:25:12.120 --> 1:25:14.400 you wake up to the ten songs, you go to 1:25:14.479 --> 1:25:16.439 work to the ten songs, You listen to ten songs 1:25:16.479 --> 1:25:18.360 and your lunch break, listen to him on the way home, 1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:20.200 and you go to the club and you fucking want 1:25:20.240 --> 1:25:22.560 to ask me to play the ten song, Like just 1:25:22.640 --> 1:25:25.760 get in the car and listen to the radio. You 1:25:25.840 --> 1:25:28.920 know what I mean? Like you you you have like 1:25:29.040 --> 1:25:31.360 I believe that especially as these as you have to 1:25:31.479 --> 1:25:33.639 kind of you have to kind of stand your ground. 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:35.640 Like there's a level of me that I feel like 1:25:35.680 --> 1:25:38.400 I'm standing on my ground to protect the culture because 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:42.320 one of my biggest fears is is I was like, 1:25:42.439 --> 1:25:45.000 I never I never want to feel like you can 1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:47.719 walk into a club and the DJ booth being closed 1:25:48.000 --> 1:25:50.920 and somebody's playing a mix and you don't know m 1:25:52.040 --> 1:25:55.400 let it like, let me, I'll stopped for one second. 1:25:55.479 --> 1:26:00.880 I was watching something earlier. It was like Robots killed HBO. Right, 1:26:01.840 --> 1:26:06.720 it's basically, um, I'm I'm describing this very long, but 1:26:06.720 --> 1:26:09.400 it basically they're showing you how like in a couple 1:26:09.479 --> 1:26:12.240 of years, you might not even need to bar Like 1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:17.040 they're gonna have something. Yeah, that's just your gold it's 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:19.640 gonna be all that. Do you think they canna ever 1:26:19.680 --> 1:26:23.719 do that with a DJ? No, they can't know because 1:26:23.720 --> 1:26:27.120 they got robots right now listen, Because you know, people 1:26:27.160 --> 1:26:30.560 talk about equipment that can put things in key and 1:26:30.680 --> 1:26:34.280 put things in mix. What you can never do is 1:26:34.400 --> 1:26:36.960 find an algorithm that I can look in your eyes 1:26:37.000 --> 1:26:39.200 and tell that you about you really want to fucking 1:26:39.280 --> 1:26:44.280 hear this mob deep record exactly like they when they 1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:48.360 developed that. Then I'll get a little nervous, But at 1:26:48.400 --> 1:26:50.320 the you know, at the end of the day, I 1:26:50.439 --> 1:26:52.920 also feel like one skin not trying to be conspiracy. 1:26:52.960 --> 1:26:56.559 There's I also feel like the reason why they're dumbing 1:26:56.640 --> 1:27:00.240 the music down is to make it to the that 1:27:00.360 --> 1:27:02.800 you can do something like that to make it serviceable. Yeah. 1:27:02.920 --> 1:27:06.480 So I'm like, yo, like I appreciate, I'm mad, appreciate 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:10.680 a track and craze because when you see them, they 1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:14.880 do something that no machine in this world could ever do. 1:27:15.360 --> 1:27:17.360 And I think you have to show that. I get 1:27:17.479 --> 1:27:19.960 mad at DJs with skills and get up there and 1:27:20.040 --> 1:27:23.320 just play records and never show announce of their skills. 1:27:23.400 --> 1:27:26.000 I'm like, yo, you were you were putting yourself in 1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:29.400 this category that they're going to enclose the DJ booth 1:27:29.680 --> 1:27:32.559 and play your fucking mixed team. You better make sure 1:27:33.000 --> 1:27:36.440 that there's not a machine on earth that can duplicate 1:27:36.520 --> 1:27:39.719 what you can do, like and that's saving the culture. 1:27:48.560 --> 1:27:51.400 Because it made me think of that because because actually 1:27:51.400 --> 1:27:53.920 I was I was watching it, I was getting a haircut, 1:27:53.960 --> 1:27:59.639 and I just looked at my ball you becoming late 1:28:02.120 --> 1:28:07.840 the probably change the channel, and it made me think 1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:09.960 of that just now. But that what you just said 1:28:10.160 --> 1:28:14.080 makes DJs are DJs are curators, and so even aside 1:28:14.120 --> 1:28:18.479 from the skill aspect, you know, to have a human 1:28:18.560 --> 1:28:21.840 being making choices, you know, you can't replace that because 1:28:21.880 --> 1:28:24.360 you think about it, like when Spotify first came out 1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:27.479 and it was like all the music in the world available, 1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:29.720 a lot of people will send up in caviar or 1:28:29.760 --> 1:28:31.920 something like that before that, because what I was getting 1:28:31.920 --> 1:28:35.160 at is they had to start doing playlists to recommend 1:28:35.280 --> 1:28:38.800 certain records two people. Because at first when you had 1:28:39.200 --> 1:28:43.360 that things originally made by DJs, or that the Spotify 1:28:43.760 --> 1:28:47.840 like playlists come from like the iPods era when iTunes. 1:28:48.080 --> 1:28:51.439 And the last thing is when all the music in 1:28:51.479 --> 1:28:53.920 the world is like you go to Spotify. Now you 1:28:54.000 --> 1:28:55.759 can go to a playlist. Yes, you go to title, 1:28:56.240 --> 1:28:59.800 go to the place's curated by certain individuals, But was 1:29:00.000 --> 1:29:03.160 that I'm literally like a DJ set. That's when the 1:29:03.200 --> 1:29:06.880 playlist is. Yeah, I think it's a way it's it's 1:29:06.880 --> 1:29:11.080 sort of it's it's it's a DJ similar to my DJ. Yeah, 1:29:11.080 --> 1:29:13.080 because part of DJing is not just the song as 1:29:13.120 --> 1:29:15.120 you play, is the energy that you bring. The crazy 1:29:15.200 --> 1:29:17.840 thing with certain DJs is you could be out hearing 1:29:17.960 --> 1:29:20.880 a DJ said someone played one record and you'll be like, man, 1:29:20.960 --> 1:29:22.600 this is dope. What is that? You find out what 1:29:22.680 --> 1:29:24.760 the record is, you go back home, listen to it, 1:29:24.880 --> 1:29:26.960 and it doesn't hit you the same way because certain 1:29:27.040 --> 1:29:28.720 DJ is the way they bring the record, in the 1:29:28.800 --> 1:29:31.439 way they read the orgy. Yeah, and just there's something 1:29:31.479 --> 1:29:35.840 about that energy control. It's like you know magicians, where 1:29:36.520 --> 1:29:39.000 the record by itself isn't the same thing. So playlist 1:29:39.120 --> 1:29:42.679 doesn't have the flow and the energy of a DJ set. Yeah. 1:29:43.680 --> 1:29:51.880 So I just realized I'm surrounded by DJ M gonna 1:29:51.880 --> 1:29:55.720 do a crazy show for DJ but yeah, I mean, 1:29:55.800 --> 1:30:02.559 I ain't gonna lie. I'm loving the because as an artist, uh, 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:07.200 I've never done a show without a DJ um and 1:30:07.320 --> 1:30:09.439 I know that that controls the thing, so it is 1:30:09.439 --> 1:30:12.519 in case anybody's ever you know, we know that you 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:14.479 guys run the show. We know that you guys were 1:30:14.520 --> 1:30:16.519 in the world, and we appreciate that. You know, from 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:19.320 every artist in the world to you know, every fucking 1:30:19.520 --> 1:30:22.400 fans and everybody who has a hair who listens to 1:30:23.200 --> 1:30:28.800 great music, we want to say thank you. You know 1:30:28.920 --> 1:30:31.360 that DJs were in the world, and also big up 1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:34.200 to DJ Enough and DJ Commiller was supposed to stop by, 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:36.000 and that would have been dope to have all your 1:30:36.120 --> 1:30:39.880 DJ and thereuld have been not been enough records. So 1:30:40.520 --> 1:30:42.559 so let me just ask you something before we get 1:30:42.600 --> 1:30:51.519 about here, the transition from vinyl to fully digital. Is 1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:54.880 it a good thing? Because the one thing I will 1:30:54.960 --> 1:30:58.559 tell you was paying your dues is a DJ kind 1:30:58.600 --> 1:31:02.920 of felt like carrying rates? Where would it can we 1:31:03.080 --> 1:31:05.519 replace Carrie and creates for a book bag with your 1:31:05.560 --> 1:31:13.000 laptop rating it? Because I always felt like that was 1:31:13.040 --> 1:31:15.599 paying your dudes. Is a DJ like like like actually, 1:31:15.720 --> 1:31:17.519 you know, me being from New York City and me 1:31:17.600 --> 1:31:20.200 being like, you know, going to the tunnel, that would 1:31:20.200 --> 1:31:22.200 be my thing. I would try to get there earlier 1:31:22.280 --> 1:31:24.360 to see a DJ come out there with their crates 1:31:24.600 --> 1:31:27.040 and be like, you know, forgetting them where their gloves 1:31:27.360 --> 1:31:29.439 and be freezing. I'll be looking like that's a good 1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:32.000 ole DJ, right, you know what I'm saying. But now 1:31:32.280 --> 1:31:36.720 these guys they don't freeze at all, you know. But 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:40.800 but um, what is what is the transition from you know, 1:31:41.000 --> 1:31:45.920 like seriously, from crates to is it a plus? Or 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:49.800 is it? It? Is? It? It was a huge change, 1:31:49.840 --> 1:31:55.000 by the way, because like you know, it's almost people 1:31:55.160 --> 1:31:58.720 forget that before the digital was even an option. When 1:31:58.760 --> 1:32:00.400 you made a record and you want to to play it, 1:32:00.479 --> 1:32:02.400 you have to go get a dub plate press to 1:32:02.520 --> 1:32:06.000 get an act press, or if you uh, you know, 1:32:06.200 --> 1:32:08.439 if the airline lost your luggage, you couldn't play that 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:11.080 night off. I don't miss any of the final stuff. 1:32:11.080 --> 1:32:13.120 It's funny because world stress TJ. So people come up 1:32:13.120 --> 1:32:14.920 to us and it's like, yeah, final. I'm like, oh, 1:32:15.160 --> 1:32:18.240 it's final, really breaking my back having airlines losten. I 1:32:18.280 --> 1:32:20.519 don't miss any of that. So if you lose your computer, 1:32:20.800 --> 1:32:24.000 just mean they're gonna lose your computer. It's you back. 1:32:24.360 --> 1:32:29.080 But you would check in multiple crates in the that 1:32:29.240 --> 1:32:32.080 was that's a nightmare. You don't hold your breath every 1:32:32.120 --> 1:32:34.360 time the luggage coming. Yeah, because it's kind of like 1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:38.080 there's one, there's another. I got to London one time 1:32:38.160 --> 1:32:40.760 and the tops of my crates came the tops of 1:32:40.840 --> 1:32:43.080 my boxes just because there was a bunch of DJs 1:32:43.120 --> 1:32:45.719 that worked in the airport. And then you, oh, London 1:32:45.800 --> 1:32:49.160 was gangster back in the day, coming and you're just 1:32:49.280 --> 1:32:50.840 would come and it would be the tops, and you'll 1:32:50.880 --> 1:32:53.160 be waiting for the bottoms because first of all, you 1:32:53.240 --> 1:32:55.000 don't if the bottoms, if the tops, and you know, 1:32:55.080 --> 1:32:57.320 on the records all over the players, and it would 1:32:57.360 --> 1:33:00.040 never come because someone would take that off, put a 1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:03.599 top on and there was somebody rocking in London. Wow, 1:33:03.920 --> 1:33:07.360 So the record we're saying, this is great, this is great. 1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:12.080 The whole the digital thing makes every song available to you. 1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:15.519 And I think that's really cool too, because that ended 1:33:15.600 --> 1:33:18.080 up helping break down some of the barriers between genres 1:33:18.120 --> 1:33:20.720 and everything. It just it helped music involved. In the 1:33:20.840 --> 1:33:24.320 last ten years, DJ's really played a big role in 1:33:24.600 --> 1:33:27.599 in steering the direction of music in general. A lot 1:33:27.680 --> 1:33:29.599 of artists started going to dj C being like, yeah, 1:33:29.640 --> 1:33:32.560 what's the next sound? And I think that digital transition 1:33:32.880 --> 1:33:35.800 helped in that because it brought everything together. And at 1:33:35.800 --> 1:33:38.439 the end of the day, even if it's kind of 1:33:38.479 --> 1:33:41.639 wild to think that every DJ that plays on every stage, 1:33:41.720 --> 1:33:44.360 every club has access to all the same records, but 1:33:44.439 --> 1:33:47.559 it's kind of cool because then it puts the force 1:33:47.600 --> 1:33:51.759 bag like it's it's each DJ's own taste and style. 1:33:52.320 --> 1:33:54.400 They'll make a difference whether they're good or not. Like 1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:56.439 that we all have access to the same records, we 1:33:56.479 --> 1:33:59.240 have the same I was like, you know, we have 1:33:59.320 --> 1:34:01.640 a backyard. I did, but I have a party. You 1:34:01.720 --> 1:34:03.640 guys all have the same records, but it would be 1:34:03.760 --> 1:34:08.439 all three different energies, completely completely different. Yeah, that that's awesome. 1:34:09.080 --> 1:34:11.360 That's do you guys get mad? Like when you hear 1:34:11.479 --> 1:34:14.320 artists that sounded the same. They're DJs that do the 1:34:14.400 --> 1:34:18.479 same thing as another DJ. Oh yeah, absolutely damn you 1:34:18.600 --> 1:34:26.920 got you got designers and like those you know what 1:34:26.960 --> 1:34:34.519 I'm saying, but got that. But you know what again? 1:34:34.600 --> 1:34:37.320 Once again, man, thank you for hanging out. Jazzy jeff Man, 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:44.760 I wanted to self to I was talking about the 1:34:44.840 --> 1:34:47.640 whole transition in and the fresh princhion belt an um. 1:34:47.960 --> 1:34:51.800 I have to salute you for the transition into a 1:34:51.920 --> 1:34:54.640 different arena. I think that it is very important to 1:34:54.800 --> 1:34:58.960 kind of show the hip hop generation, and especially because 1:34:58.960 --> 1:35:01.759 you know, we still we have some legendary stubborn brothers 1:35:03.200 --> 1:35:05.720 doing the one thing that there are a lot of 1:35:05.800 --> 1:35:09.000 people that are talented and more than just what anybody know, 1:35:09.400 --> 1:35:11.920 knowing for what, and you're never too old to take 1:35:12.000 --> 1:35:15.720 that jump into something else. So trust me. Like for 1:35:15.840 --> 1:35:20.560 me to be sitting on here talking to you in 1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:22.960 a completely different light than when I know you from 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:32.360 the game, it's that that's the I can't believe that 1:35:32.439 --> 1:35:34.439 all the time. Is that's who I took it from. 1:35:34.520 --> 1:35:37.439 It's like seeing your brothers take those opportunities to take 1:35:37.479 --> 1:35:40.639 those chances, like you the ol owls to create my teeth. 1:35:40.680 --> 1:35:43.400 But it was just like you know um, and I 1:35:43.520 --> 1:35:45.080 was like, yo, you know what, if I can do 1:35:45.200 --> 1:35:49.120 it on my way, then then then why not you 1:35:49.160 --> 1:35:50.680 know what I'm saying, Like why not? Like I love 1:35:50.800 --> 1:35:53.000 to I love to talk hip hop. I think a 1:35:53.080 --> 1:35:55.760 hip hop we this should be our first take we 1:35:55.800 --> 1:35:59.600 should have. I believe I get out of here, but 1:36:00.400 --> 1:36:03.200 I believe that you shouldn't go to no other place 1:36:03.840 --> 1:36:05.760 for anything in life, Meaning if you want to go 1:36:06.040 --> 1:36:08.240 to a yelp. I'm making the hip hop you up 1:36:08.360 --> 1:36:11.280 right now right, So I'm making the ship that nor 1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:13.519 Re recommends where I want the fun you eat. And 1:36:13.560 --> 1:36:15.400 I'm gonna tell you look, if you want to get shot, 1:36:15.520 --> 1:36:19.280 this is where they go. They got the best friend 1:36:19.360 --> 1:36:21.680 chicken though in the world, it might be worth it, 1:36:22.120 --> 1:36:23.439 you know what I'm saying. If you want to go, 1:36:25.520 --> 1:36:27.760 you wanna get some fried oreoles over, yeah, I got 1:36:28.000 --> 1:36:31.040 like I'm not giving people like And if you want 1:36:31.040 --> 1:36:32.720 to go to the news, I believe that you go 1:36:32.800 --> 1:36:34.519 to the news. I believe Jim Jones should be the 1:36:34.560 --> 1:36:38.920 weather forecaster. I believe, you know, I believe it's Jim Jones. 1:36:39.400 --> 1:36:41.720 See what I'm saying. I believe if you want to 1:36:41.760 --> 1:36:44.280 go sneakers shopping, I believe it's Fat Joe should be 1:36:44.280 --> 1:36:46.400 guiding you through your sneakers and saying, listen, this is 1:36:46.479 --> 1:36:48.760 like I believe you should get every bit of information 1:36:48.880 --> 1:36:52.000 that we have in hip hop through hip hop. You 1:36:52.040 --> 1:36:53.920 know what I'm saying, Through hip hop, I don't believe. 1:36:54.120 --> 1:36:56.400 I believe everything should come from us. And because I 1:36:56.520 --> 1:36:59.679 don't believe hip hop is even a color, I believe 1:36:59.800 --> 1:37:03.840 hip pop is as his own race. We all race. 1:37:03.960 --> 1:37:05.479 You know what I'm saying, like you, what are you? 1:37:05.560 --> 1:37:10.719 I'm hip hop kid, but staff exactly what it because 1:37:10.800 --> 1:37:14.320 it's our bonn our bonn like, like it doesn't matter 1:37:14.400 --> 1:37:17.080 what color a person is easy hip hop. If you 1:37:17.240 --> 1:37:19.519 hip hop to me, I funk with you, like I 1:37:19.560 --> 1:37:22.120 don't give a funk where your background coming from. And 1:37:22.240 --> 1:37:25.360 that's it's hip hop is a language, is it's it's uh, 1:37:25.479 --> 1:37:28.560 it's it's two things at the universal it's food and 1:37:28.680 --> 1:37:32.240 motherfucking music. Like no matter where you go. I remember 1:37:32.320 --> 1:37:34.560 I was at some airport and these people are just 1:37:34.640 --> 1:37:36.800 playing music and you're just seeing people just walking by. 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:39.240 Everybody had a little box to them. I'm saying, this 1:37:39.400 --> 1:37:43.280 ship everybody, even the ones off beat ship. This guy's okay, 1:37:43.520 --> 1:37:47.120 he's anybody love music, so anybody doesn't. It looks like food. 1:37:47.400 --> 1:37:49.080 And I think we gotta keep spreading this. But I 1:37:49.080 --> 1:37:51.120 think we gotta keep spreading love. We gotta keep continue 1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:54.120 to you know, to I love that these two you 1:37:54.160 --> 1:37:56.760 know dj these hot DJs, they came and they paid 1:37:56.840 --> 1:38:00.360 comments immediately, and that's beautiful. But we need more of that. 1:38:00.760 --> 1:38:04.040 We need more of people of our legends continue to 1:38:04.080 --> 1:38:06.040 feel like legends and continue to be out there and 1:38:06.120 --> 1:38:08.040 making money, continue to be out there and making our 1:38:08.080 --> 1:38:10.240 culture look good. Because if we ain't gonna bag each 1:38:10.280 --> 1:38:13.000 other up, ain't nobody gonna big us up. Bro. And 1:38:13.120 --> 1:38:15.000 guess what, we need a little bit of big enough. 1:38:15.120 --> 1:38:17.880 Sometimes you need that pattern of your shoulder. I ain't 1:38:17.880 --> 1:38:19.800 gonna lie to you. That's why, you know, that's why 1:38:19.920 --> 1:38:22.200 marathon runners to be having them people on the side 1:38:22.600 --> 1:38:24.920 like yo, mother, you can get me going right, Yeah 1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:34.960 that's twenty six. I can't. I can't thank you man. 1:38:35.360 --> 1:38:38.560 Thank you think it if you'll get drops, thank you, 1:38:38.680 --> 1:38:43.000 thank you? Yes, yes, you know. I like to picture