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Let's go and podcasts a legendary Queen's wrapper. 28 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: He's on Miami hippop Pioneer up his dj e FN 29 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players, 30 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your 31 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: number one source for dr New year Z Time for 32 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: drink Champs, drink up for the w A good be 33 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: hopefully with the shipy this your boy and what up 34 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: is d j e F and his motherfuckering drink Champs 35 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: yap Yaur makes up now. When it comes to legends, 36 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to legendary DJs, when it comes to 37 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: people who've been down in this game forever and have 38 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: maintained relevance and maintenance consistency, this man picture comes up 39 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: when we googled him Jesus and his picture came out. 40 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: The man is consistent. He's out here, He's still got 41 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: love for the game. You know, so many accolades, so 42 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: many are different things that he's done, and he's still 43 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: out here, still working, still doing. It's still out here, 44 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: still out here with gucci hats on, a nice classes 45 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: through the well, hit through a cameraman and doing what 46 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: you gotta do. In the case you don't know what 47 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: we talked about with motherfucker, let it. I honestly, I 48 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: honestly get stoked when I I speak to people like 49 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: you are people who laid down the legacy for people 50 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: like me A E F n um And when I 51 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: look at you guys, legacy and like did did what? 52 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: What time was? Uh? Let's let's take it from the beginning. 53 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: Let's take it from the beginning. How did how do? 54 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: How did you even? How did you get start? How 55 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: did I get stuck? Um? Who inspired you? Too? Well? 56 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: I had some older DJs in my neighborhood that would 57 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: do do all the block parties, um, and I think 58 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: what it was. I would I would go to these 59 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: block puts. Doesn't feel it and I would go to 60 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: these block parties, and these guys would they would be 61 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: on these enclosed portraits so you would never see what 62 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: they look like. But and they had these massive speakers, 63 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: and I always felt like they were the puppet masters 64 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: because they got you to do whatever they wanted to 65 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: do with the music that you lady. And I wasn't 66 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: the one that was at the parties or at the 67 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: block parties trying to get the girls. I was looking 68 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: at that into a house like trying to figure out 69 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: who the wizard was. But I couldn't see his face 70 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: and how he was pulling these strings and making anybody 71 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: do whatever he wanted with his music. Um, and I 72 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: got to a point that I was like, I want 73 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: to be that guy. I want to I want to 74 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: have that level of control that that he has with 75 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: his music. So you know, it literally started from grabbing man. 76 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: It was it was a DJ named Disco Dock in Philly. 77 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: It was a guy Disco rat Um. And this was 78 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: this was pre hip hop too, so this wasn't you know, 79 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: this was they just playing mass production, grass construction, funk 80 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: and soul records. But it was just you know, they 81 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: had the big yet yet, but they had these big 82 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: giant speakers, and you know, we just get on the 83 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: bike and you would ride to you know, you ride 84 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: twenty blocks because you heard somebody would have a block 85 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: party and you would just go and just you know, 86 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: watch them do their things. You know, a couple of 87 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: hundred people on the street dancing um. And it was 88 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: just kind of like that was something that I liked. 89 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I liked the effect of him playing this music and 90 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: it had on people. It was like yo, like he 91 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: was the pie Python like he you know, I'm like, 92 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 1: you could have told to do anything, and we probably 93 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: really did it, depending on how you string these records 94 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: together now describe to us Philly back and back in 95 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: the day, because it had to Pully has to go 96 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: through so many different transitions. So the was because UM 97 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: us in hip hop us in New York. Problem. Uh, 98 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: we knew that it came from the Bronx. Well, it 99 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: was always around it, so was it like that of Philly. 100 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: Wasn't hip hop just everywhere? And we we would get 101 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: tapes from the Bronx of hip hop, Like you know, 102 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: everybody had a cousin that lived in New York. Everybody 103 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: had a cousin that was from the Bronx, which anybody 104 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: probably live cool with Flash or hurt Um, But it 105 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: was just like you would get these tapes that would 106 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: be a hundred generations tapes of t Connection and the Fever, 107 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: and you would basically imagine what these parties were like. 108 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: You know, to me, it was thousands of people in 109 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: these parties and there was massive sound systems and those 110 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: parties could have been in the room like this, but 111 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: it was just what you got and what you imagine. 112 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: But that that was it, you know, we um. I 113 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: feel like the hip hop scene in the Philly was 114 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: created off of what we thought it was in New 115 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: York because there wasn't videos, There wasn't any of that, 116 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: so you didn't really got a lot of Philly that cool. 117 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: See Sandy being um. You know they came up before 118 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: you know there was they was around the same time 119 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: the same time. Wasn't there was a group? Right? Was 120 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: the name of the group? TV? What CB was a group? Like? 121 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: Because we did were like the first rap gagsters like 122 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: technically like I mean we heard in w A and 123 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: all that, but no one either jazz. You know what 124 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: I really started like that was it was school. He 125 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: d school, he did and as he did, got at 126 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: all that he was the first rapp up that was 127 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: actually living in his literally just you know, he was 128 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: talking about his neighborhood and he just described it to 129 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: a t and it was just you know, you know, 130 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: we didn't know that and did that that it's goods 131 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: outside of New York. When we started the hand of that, 132 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: it was like, X, really, motherfucker's by the way, we 133 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: don't know if we know Jazzy Jeff, but this is 134 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: a show where we celebrate our lections. You know what 135 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We were were we were now the first 136 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: person that we interviewed since we won the award. Let's 137 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: big up. What was the name the National Film and 138 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: televis Television A War? In true drink Chace fashion, we 139 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: seen on one of our friends to pick up the war. 140 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: We don't think we're gonna win, by the way, generous, 141 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: we get a Saturday night last. We don't think were 142 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna win, So we sit on home, Jimmy kimbers against 143 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: and Homie I travel to know and Homie actually goes there. 144 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: It gets the award and in to drink chance fashion, 145 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: he breaks the award getting into a school he took pature. 146 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: I'm wanting to he dropped junk family. I also Bob, 147 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: we had it. You want to pick up to aunerable 148 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: old staff man get a wonderful event yesterday and um, 149 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: they all came together. They was all stressed out. I 150 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: love to see them all stressed out, but I'd love 151 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: to see them all and he took care of everything, 152 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't want to pick them up. But now 153 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: let's get back to Philly, right because in a lot 154 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 1: of ways, the biggest artist to date right now is 155 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: meet Mail right for for his triumph. But if it 156 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: wasn't you guys, do you see the director like he's 157 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: like the new Philly King or or you don't see that? Yeah? 158 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. But I don't think we ever looked at 159 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: ourselves as Um. I don't want to say Philly King's 160 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: because like myself and Will, I think you know, Philly 161 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: was where we were from. Um, it was a little 162 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: weird back then because there was a point in time 163 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: that we didn't feel that we kind of got the 164 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: love that other people got in Philly, Um that people 165 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: got in different states. Um. And I really think looking 166 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: back at contact, it was because a lot of that 167 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: was new you know, anybody was trying to everybody was 168 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what it is we were doing. 169 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: We don't know how long this is gonna last. Like 170 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: so I don't think it was people just didn't didn't 171 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: show love. You know, radio stations. I think we're a 172 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: little bit afraid because they were kind of like, we 173 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna be here, you know. Yeah, 174 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: so it's like we're not going really lock in to this. 175 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, Meet coming along now, um and, 176 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: and Philly has always had champions that they really really 177 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: got behind and they wanted to kind of go beyond Philly, 178 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, state property and beans in that whole thing. 179 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: Like everybody was super invested the routes. Um And, I think, 180 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: you know what, like Meet being the new younger generation, 181 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: but also going through what he went through and coming 182 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: through the way that he came through. It's kind of 183 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: like he's not only put himself in a position that 184 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: he's a champion in Philly. I think that's gone way 185 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: beyond too. Yeah. I um, I just feel like the 186 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: hip hop history is so rich and it starts from 187 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: actually history, but actually you guys are originators, like you 188 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: you gotta claim that you have to. We were one 189 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: of them, you know, it was it was you know, 190 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: it was a time, like I said, we didn't know 191 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: what we were doing. We were we were thinking that 192 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: we were imitating New York, you know, and Philly is 193 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: a very DJ heavy city. It was the DJ was first. 194 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: That only happened because we thought the DJ was first 195 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: in New York. We didn't realize that the rapper took 196 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: precedent and then the DJ was the person to back 197 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: him up. We came with like, listen to DJ is first, 198 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: and the rapper tells anybody how great the DJ was. 199 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: That's that was me and Will's dynamic. That was Steady 200 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 1: be In in his DJ's dynamic. You know, that was that. 201 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: But that was what we thought. We thought. That's how 202 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: it was so not realizing that you kind of created 203 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: your own version, you know, your own spin on it 204 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: that you know, it was kind of okay, you know, 205 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: but because like I said, we didn't have videos and 206 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: all the rest of that to kind of make everything seamless, 207 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was just kind of like I gotta tape. 208 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what Cowboy looked like, I don't know 209 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: what d mel looked like so, you know, in my head, 210 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm imagining, you know, I remember seeing the first picture 211 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: of you know, Theatore and the fans Plastic five, and 212 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out who was who, Like, you know, 213 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: when I found out the light skin, Dude, ain't they 214 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: you know? So you know it was it was all 215 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: of this is priests? Are you just making it up 216 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: as you go along? Now? How you like? Throughout all 217 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: your years, you never got in trouble, Like, at least 218 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: it's a public guy like, You're not a scandal. It's 219 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: not Google, would you know what man like? Because Instagram 220 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: wasn't a live listen. If it wouldn't be listen, it 221 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't be hip hop, would not be hip hop. You know. Um, 222 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: but you know, I think just listen. I in spite 223 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: of how willing the records that we made, none of 224 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: us grew up in the best environment. You know. We 225 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: grew up in inner City, We grew up in Philly. 226 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: You know, we had our share of ship and just 227 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: you know, and and it was what it was. But 228 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: it was kind of like, you know, I think our 229 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: approach was, we're not really telling the story of where 230 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: we grew up but that doesn't hide how we grew up. 231 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: But growing up like that one thing that you developed 232 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: is smart that it's kind of like you don't tell 233 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: your business, you don't put your business out there. And 234 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: I think some of those old school lessons that I got, 235 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: I just kept with me that it's kind of like, 236 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's no one is squeaky clean. It just 237 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: depends on who sees your dirt. But you see how 238 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: easy it is nowadays, Like these new kids they're saying 239 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: and then the next day, the next day they're on 240 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: their tomorrow sniff and cocaine off Kimberly. I see, you 241 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: know what we never we never had a twenty four 242 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: hour a day camera on you telling like, you know 243 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: what's messed up about this generation? They put the camera 244 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: on themselves. The people. I was like, let me ask 245 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: you a question. If you got in trouble, would you 246 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: go to Alvy Square Mall in New York in the 247 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: food course that bring out your trouble? And everybody's like no, 248 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: And I was like, that's what you just did. That's 249 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: exactly what you just did. And the people don't understand that. 250 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of like you know, you you that's how 251 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: you know I've come from the same I just used 252 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: that same reference the other day about obviously we're going 253 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: to do it to be to the side and said album. 254 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the crazy thing is they actually but um, 255 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: but I've seen I seen a documentary one time. We're 256 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: talking about you and Will on tour, and I think 257 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: y'all was on Queen lot Teeth with Chalk and everybody 258 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: was looking at y'all different because y'all had pop records. 259 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: They was considered pop records at the time. And y'all 260 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: was going on every single night and still bosting ass 261 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: on stage because that's that's what it was about. Kid 262 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: with the records, y'all. You know, like when when we 263 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: when we went to New York when we did the 264 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: whole lot of Union Square and all the rest of that. 265 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: We have one record, you know, we're going up did 266 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: to do girls Ain't nothing but trouble. But it's kind 267 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: of like, yo, okay, well we gotta do this freestyle, 268 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: you gotta DJ, we're gonna bring out the beat box, 269 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: like our job is to entertain you. So it's kind 270 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: of like, man, listen, that the least important thing for 271 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: us on the show was the record, like we the 272 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: records are given. Anybody know the record, but we gotta 273 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: get him with all this other stuff. Let me ask 274 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: you something. So you as a DJ, right and when 275 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: people cultique records like that and you're out DJ and like, 276 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: because you know, I assume you and you you know 277 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: the records that that planning. Did you ever like come 278 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: and try to persuade like the group to go a 279 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: different direction? Like you know what I'm saying, OK, Like 280 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't mess with people's creative direction. You know. It's 281 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: kind of like you know this this this is you're 282 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: doing something that's inside of you. And you know, to me, 283 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: is you have the ability to say if you like 284 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: it or you don't. I ain't really got the ability 285 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: to tell nobody change shit, you know, because that's I 286 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: don't want anybody to tell me to do the same thing. 287 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: You know. It's all subjective. You know, every A and 288 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: R that you talked to at every record company was 289 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: giving you their opinion. Nobody's opinion. Law, how did you connect? Um? 290 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: I was really big in the city uh as a DJ, 291 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: and Will was in the crew. Um he was in 292 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: the crew in a sexon city in Windfield and you know, 293 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: you know of people, you know because a lot of 294 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: times we're on the same show. Um. And it was 295 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: crazy because this was pre cell phone, page or any 296 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: of that. So when you had to get a call 297 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: because he was in the house, and I got a 298 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: call like yo, somebody wants to do this house party 299 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: on fifty four from Windwood, and I was like cool, 300 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: and I picked up the phone and you know, picked 301 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: up the phone and called the guy that used to 302 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: MC for me and he went in the house. Couldn't 303 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: page him and nothing. So it was kind of like, listen, 304 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do the party. You know, I just 305 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: can't get him. And when I showed up, it was 306 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: two doors down from Will's house, and as soon as 307 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: I was chilled up to set my stuff up, he 308 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: came in the basement and it was kind of like 309 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: we knew each other, dapt each other up. He was like, yo, 310 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: where's your man Ice? And I was like yeah, I 311 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: couldn't find him, and he was like, yo, you mind 312 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: if I rocked? And I was like nah, And it 313 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: was just a natural chemistry that we had that night. Listen, 314 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: I kept saying, if Ice would have picked up that phone, 315 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: I might not be sitting here, you know, that's crazy. 316 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: It was just you know, and then that turned into 317 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: what you're doing? Them are what are you doing next Saturday? 318 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: What are you doing? And it was probably seven months 319 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: later we had a record out. What was the moment 320 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: where you was like I made it was the parents 321 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: just don't understand. There's there's a point in time that 322 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: I still don't think I had that moment. What you have? 323 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I think? Um? When 324 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: we we we when we put out pants, I meant 325 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: we had signed of Rush and UM management and I 326 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: remember when we played them and he's the DJ on 327 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: the rap for hour Russell listened to it and Russell 328 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: said this is going to be gold in four weeks 329 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: and he was just like the US management UM and 330 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: we and we didn't believe him, and and the record 331 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: actually went gold in five weeks. But what it was, 332 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: we were on tour and it was kind of like 333 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: you started to tour off in your the third actor 334 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: going and then a week later you're the fourth factor 335 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: going on, and then a week later you're the fifth 336 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: actor go on, and you're not realizing why they're moving 337 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: you up. And it was we do any shows with 338 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: run DMC and like it was a pack tour. Yeah, yeah, 339 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: And it was kind of like every night, you know, 340 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: will start coming to me. He's like, yo, like is 341 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: it me or is the cheers getting louder? And I'm like, 342 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't tell, like you know, it's 343 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: you know. And it was one night he did parents 344 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: just don't Understand and and he said the first verse, 345 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: and he told me that he was gonna try something. 346 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: He said the first verse and then he said in 347 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: between the first and second verse, he was like, listen, 348 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the first line and I want everybody 349 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: to say the second line, which was really dangerous because 350 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: if nobody said ship, we would have been And he said, 351 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: I remember one year my mom took me school shopping 352 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: in twenty five thousand people answering, and and that was it. 353 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: That was kind of like because once again, when you're 354 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: on the road, you don't you know, you don't have 355 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: any frame of reference if your record is getting big, 356 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, I know. So it was kind of like, yo, 357 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: like this is crazy, you know. And it was, you know, 358 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: before we end up getting off the tour, we're right 359 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: before run DMC was, was that ever rough between you 360 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: and world? I want nah, nah, you know, I mean 361 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: trust me, you have grown pains, you know, because we 362 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: started off so young. But it was wild because one 363 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: of the first times right after we got together, I 364 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: mean we sat on the steps um and it was 365 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: wild because of me Will the manager, Jail and Charlie 366 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: matt Um and yeah, I saw and Will was like, yo, man, 367 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: I want to do movies. And I was like, I 368 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: want to do music for the movie. So people would 369 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: always be like, didn't get strange, you know, did you 370 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: feel like Will left? He was like, nah, Like this 371 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: was planning from day one. None of this was music. 372 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: You were scoring most of the movies. I was like, 373 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: I did all the music on The Fresh Prince of 374 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: bel Air. The thing still, I'm gonna tell you something, 375 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: you know what. And somebody said this to me not 376 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: too long ago, and and and it freaked me out. 377 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: He came up to me and he said, let me 378 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: ask you a question. What is the biggest hip hop 379 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: record in the world. And I started going down the 380 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: list and like Dr J Snoop Emina, and he was 381 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: like the Fresh Prince of bel Air. He said, that 382 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: is the biggest everybody knows that everybody was in the 383 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: world was an over dred and and I never thought 384 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: of that, you know, especially when you realize you record 385 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: it was. Was that just the theme for the show. 386 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: Did you actually drop a record? Um? The record company 387 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: put something out that I found out that whole show 388 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: was made for the ship. We made it for the show. Wow, 389 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: Uncle Phil passing away, what you had a relationship, very 390 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: very good. Like he was like hip Hop's uncle. He 391 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: you know what, because that was like our family like that, 392 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: like the Fresh Prince was everybody from the project. That's 393 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: what we greamed of doing, Like somebody, We're having a 394 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: rich family somewhere and everything gonna flies out. We're gonna 395 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: live in Bellair and Uncle Phild's gonna be all all good. 396 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: And so I think hip Hop took that one. Yeah, 397 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 1: like hip Hop Actually, I mean he was. He was. 398 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: He was my vacation dude that because he would, you know, 399 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: in the off season, he would just get in the 400 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: car and him and his friends would drive from cross 401 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: country and they would they he could tell you every 402 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: great restaurant, every great beach, like he they were traveling. 403 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: So you know, I would go to him. He's like, yo, 404 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: if you know, the best beach in the world is 405 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: in kN Kom and the best restaurant is here. Um. 406 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: But he would always pull you aside drop some knowledge. 407 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: He was a huge music and jazz fan, so I 408 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: would always, you know, go in his room and he 409 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: would slide me new CDs and and stuff like that. 410 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: When he was he was he was cool. He was 411 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: really cool. What's what's your favorite ever in hip hop? Nineties? 412 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: On that nineties? Gonna give you ten years or what 413 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: ninety two? I would almost say, no, not necessary. I 414 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: would say probably between eighty eight. Okay, this fucking phenomenal years. 415 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: That's a great decade. So let's let's takes Sea Ansars 416 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: in there. Him is in there there, we'll tang Tang'll 417 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: take him out Nary too, so we'll tang the discovery 418 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: of mutanger. What's something that that that shocked you in 419 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: hip hops? When you sat back, he was like, I 420 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: can't believe hip hop went this far um because you 421 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: come up with the morals, but you know what, you 422 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: know what it is. It's kind of like when you 423 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: come from the Moralds. You saw how it got m more. 424 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: No one gave a shit about hip hop until they 425 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: realized that hip hop was making money. When we boycotted 426 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: the Grammys, it was because you wanted to put it 427 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: on television or you wanted to exploit it on television, 428 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: but you didn't want to show the category. And I'm like, 429 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: wait a minute, hip hop is hip hop. Hip Hop was, arguably, 430 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: and I want to say this might have been eight 431 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: arguably the top three music genre in the world. If 432 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: you got nine country and what ston categories that you're televising, 433 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: then you're gonna televise one of these hip hop categories 434 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: because on the scale, it should be up there every 435 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: hip hop category and should be up there based off 436 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: of the level of the music. And so for them 437 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: to kind of disrespect it, and this was at a 438 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: point in time that you had radio and talk show 439 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: hosts that were blatantly saying hip hop is a faddis. 440 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: So you're together, y'a boycott the after ye we were just, 441 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: you know, we got together, Salt and Pepper, everybody who 442 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: was nominated, and we were just like, we're not going. 443 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna go to all of the functions and we're 444 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna talk about why we're not going because they not 445 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: only were we nominated, but they wanted me and Will 446 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: to perform. So we were like NA and understand at 447 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: that time saying no, you don't know if this is 448 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: the kiss of death, Like are you in a position 449 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: to say nothing that they're just gonna say? You know, 450 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: but everybody kind of banded together. Um, and that's why, 451 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, hip hop has kind of for for a 452 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: while kind of gotten to be a staple in the 453 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: grand news. But you also watched when you started when 454 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: people started making real money in hip hop, and they 455 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: started noticing when it got to a point that somebody 456 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: like mc hammer sold twelve million records and now you know, 457 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: through media you're starting to see the fruits of his 458 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: labor more then people. Then you started to realize corporate 459 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: America is going to turn in. It's no different than 460 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: the DJ culture. You know, I'm in DJ and for 461 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: thirty something years, so being inside the bubble before the 462 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: bubble got big, you got DJs into making six hundred 463 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a night a night, I'm like, yo, But 464 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: all of that happened when corporate America realized. As soon 465 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: as you put Calvin Harris made sixty seven million dollars 466 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: in orbs. Now everybody wants to be a DJ because 467 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: it's now it's big business, so you start, you know, 468 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: I think I think there's a level of hip hop 469 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: that does not belong to hip hop and like sub 470 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: genre type of stuff or just you know what, I 471 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: don't believe that. I don't believe that a lot of 472 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: the commercial hip hop that's on the radio is picked 473 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: by the fans for sure, like something like like trust me, 474 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: They're just like yeah, So it's kind of like it's 475 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: almost like they're never gonna say it, but we we 476 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: let you hear what we want you to hear. Like 477 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: that's why the underground has always been a certain level 478 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: of purity because you can't really control that, Like you 479 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: gotta seek and look for stuff. But the stuff you're saying, 480 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: like a label can pay for the next that it's 481 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: just terrible, you know, but it's just kind of like 482 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: you don't realize that you don't have that level of control. 483 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: But that level of control is only because of the money. 484 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: As a DJ, have you ever as a person ever 485 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: came to you and said, ye'all want to pay you 486 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: to play my records? Every time you spend like no, 487 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: I mean no, and I've been fortunate enough to keep 488 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: myself out of the circle. You know that. It's just 489 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, because that's what's the new thing now, 490 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: DJ is kind of big. Artists go to them, pay 491 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: the dji him three grand and the DJ playing him 492 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: and then and he's the only DJ playing up. So 493 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, you know he got 494 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: because it's like no one else playing, you know what 495 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, I mean, I think that lowers the 496 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: integrity of a DJ. How about you here. I know, 497 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It happens like said, you know, you use 498 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: DJ in a lot in a couple of times and 499 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: person came up to you. It was like, y'all over 500 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: your described. You don't have to you know, don't please 501 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: give you as okay right now, just my record? Oh wow, 502 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying happen often. It okay, yeah, but you 503 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: know they're doing that now, like I think all this 504 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: we're talking about, Yeah, but it's now it's like social 505 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: media is almost becoming the DJ two. Now they're paying 506 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: people on social media to do something, to record, to 507 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: play a record, like yeah, I heard that, I'm paying 508 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: people to stream records now, so there's like companies in 509 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: Japan and everything he's saying about like how people aren't 510 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: really choosing anything. Algorithms is the same thing, like you 511 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: think you're picking something, but it's being chosen for you. 512 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: But but is it our choice to turn on the 513 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: radio and then know these songs? Because some of these 514 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: songs I hate, but I know every word of that's 515 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: program A programmer told me that they actually have a 516 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: mathematical equation that they know if they play a record 517 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: a certain amount of times and the day it's gonna 518 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: get stuck in your head. Have you been disgusted from 519 00:28:52,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: hip hop yet? Yeah? I wasn't say he kept too positive. 520 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: You don't say no, Yeah. I mean the funny thing is, 521 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: I think I've been just disgusted at some level moment 522 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: from the beginning, Like there's a listen, there's always been 523 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: a good size and a bad side. I said that, 524 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: there's always like I'm like, yo, this didn't just start 525 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: that it was bad hip hop. It was bad hip 526 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: hop in the night, you know, but it's just it's 527 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: so much more good that you gave. Felt like the 528 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: good outweigh the bad. Now that's why I'm a problem 529 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: with saying sub genres in hip hop, I think it 530 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: should just be good hip hop and bad hip hop. 531 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: Can't know because it's been bad. You start making excuses 532 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: for ship, you know, like, oh no, because this is 533 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm this genre of hip hop. You know, I can't 534 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: say good and bad because just because I don't like 535 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: it and subjective. No, I'm saying it subjective. I'm not 536 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: saying that it's automatic whatever you think it's good and bad. 537 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I still I don't want to call it 538 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: bad as I don't like it. Like there's certain people, 539 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: there's certain artists that I don't like them, but I 540 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: get why other people like them, you know what I'm saying. 541 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: And it's like, so I don't want I wouldn't want 542 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: to call them back, but I can't. I can never 543 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: criticize somebody that I don't like because I don't eat cheese. 544 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I don't think people who eat cheese are bad. It's 545 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: just something that I don't do. So it's just kind 546 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: of like, you know, if it's stuff that you don't do, 547 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: now it gets a little interesting. As a DJ, you 548 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: have you gotta figure but you gotta you gotta figure out, yeah, 549 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, and and there's some people that won't draw 550 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: the line, you know, or or draw a hard line 551 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: at curating, and you know, I think it's once again 552 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: it's subjective. It's kind of like, you know, what type 553 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: of DJI are you? But that's why the DJ is 554 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: own entity as an artist, because people buy into what 555 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: your tasted. Yes, you have a DJ, and that somebody 556 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: came with you is like play some to COPSI six 557 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: times now, because once again, if you're smart, you know 558 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: how to navigate yourself that you're not putting yourself and 559 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm situations. I had a Vegas residency for seven years. 560 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: You know, me and DJ A M you know, had 561 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: great times in Vegas because we would pushed out of it. 562 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: It was, you know, like I always had a massive 563 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: level of respect for him. I never forget one of 564 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: the first time that I went to Vegas and he 565 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: was playing and I walked in and it's two thousand people, 566 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: it's one thirty at night, and he was like, yo, 567 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: did you did you hit a new Bob Deep record? 568 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: And I was like no, and he was like y'all 569 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: And I said, what then are you doing? But like 570 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: he just dropped it. But there was a level of 571 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 1: respect that I had for that, and he's kind of like, Yo, 572 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm the DJ, I'm the train conductor. Everybody's on my train. 573 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna go wherever I take him, you know, And 574 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: you respected that. But you also saw throughout the years 575 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: Vegas change. You know, you you they got a list 576 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: this is what we want you to play. Listen, I 577 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: played Vegas, have to play a record that you didn't like, 578 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: but you knew that this was popping for the crowd. Oh, 579 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: I do that all the time. I'll do it. But 580 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: but like I said, it's which is a whole another conversation. 581 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: You gotta understand the definition the the goal of the 582 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: DJ or the job description of the DJs. You are 583 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: a servant of the people. You're not a servant of yourself. 584 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: You're a servant of the people that your job is 585 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: to play what the people like. It depends on how 586 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: much work, depending on how much you want to play 587 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: that the people like. There are some people that draw 588 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: the line. I am completely respectful for the the the 589 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: keep it real DJ and I only played nineties hip 590 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: hop and all of that said that, I'm with that, 591 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: But if there's only one nineties hip hop party of month. 592 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: Then you can't complain about the work you're gonna Like, 593 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: you can't say I want to play nineties music but 594 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: somebody on the book me every night, But you can't. 595 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. But it's kind of 596 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: like you have to decipher how much of a servant 597 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: of the people you're going to be, you know, and 598 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: I may have to play that Takashi six nine record, 599 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, depending on how you want 600 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: to walk it. All Right, well, I got it. I 601 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: download a little leog album. I'm trying. I'm trying to 602 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: stay you know with the new batteries again at batteries right, yeah, yeah, 603 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: just going on left right out of me. We're ready. 604 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: So didn't you'll have to like be for MC searchs 605 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: or something like that. Man, I don't know, happy for 606 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: some somebody. Gotta we gotta have some for somebody. Happy 607 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: for somebody. You really could get through a hip hop 608 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: like that. Listen, it ain't over. It's that's that's true. 609 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: So like you know, um, you're speaking only when you 610 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: first Matt will right, Um, he is a lee like 611 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, of our people right like this is that 612 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: they probably won't ever be a Will Smith. Did you 613 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: see that from him? Again? All Day? Get All Day, 614 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: All Day, Um, one of the first shows that we did. 615 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: And I used to play all the noise moments in 616 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: love and he would do girls, Ain't that in My 617 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Trouble over there? And I remember watching three hundred people 618 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: stared at his mouth, hang on every word of a 619 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: story because they're visualizing the story. And I was like, 620 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: that's power when you can communicate like that, that's power. Wow, 621 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: Like all day And you knew he would he would 622 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: be this guy like you know some of the movies 623 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, he represents hip hop, right, 624 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: and like I love the fact, like you know, somebody 625 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: I idolized because I wanted to continue to be involved 626 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: with him, popular wanted to do other things. I just 627 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: want to do it my way. So I'm doing it 628 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: my version of you know what I'm saying. But when 629 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: you look at like like some of the movies he did, 630 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: like he's crying on impulse, Like how do you do that? Listen? 631 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: I've seen him do that with his girl back in 632 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: the door. I seen him getting some trouble and you 633 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: could try and I said, how did you trying to 634 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: sque like. I was like, yo, like that's I don't 635 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: know how you even get that look like I spitting 636 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: on like so yeah, like he had it. You see 637 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: that from back then? Yeah, it's pre recorded this hell. 638 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: You know. I was like, you're the best day ever? 639 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: Did it? And that is acting? That is acting, is 640 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: acting on impulse. That that's something I tried to do 641 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: that I can't. I ain't got it. Yeah, that's that's it. 642 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: I ain't Yeah, trying to get man thinking about like that, 643 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: that's like that it wouldn't work for me. That's why 644 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: I know. I ain't got it. Man, I ain't got 645 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: but yet certain people could do that. But I just 646 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, for hip hop him l l ice Cube, 647 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: I like, look at and you know a lot of times, 648 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, people claim them as actors and I been 649 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: wanting to stop them, like like they hip hop first, 650 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,439 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like they hip hop 651 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: and UM to see the to see the position that 652 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, they've took it it to for us to 653 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: continue to go, it's just amazing, man. It was. It 654 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: was hard in the beginning because people people thought that 655 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: they fought well when when when he got the TV show. 656 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: It was a lot of backlash because for some reason, 657 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: just the industry, hip hop industry, you know, UM and TV. Right, No, 658 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't even settling out. It was almost like we 659 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: had this weird thing that people thought you can only 660 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: do one thing exactly. It was like your hip hop 661 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be hip hop until the day that 662 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: you die. It's kind of like, you know, I like 663 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: other stuff, you know, like and all of that stuff 664 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: is super accepted now that I wasn't accepted in the beginning. 665 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: Like people fought and just like you, you're trying to 666 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: act like what are you doing because it was you guys. 667 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,959 Speaker 1: Latifa was doing that too, And I remember like people 668 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,320 Speaker 1: saying like but but they were using like that that 669 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: sound out like they were using us word because but 670 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: you know what, you know what that I mean back 671 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: in the days when they were saying to sell out 672 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: that meant you just get money, Like I know what's about. 673 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: It was like they were hats back in the days, 674 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: like if you was a something that means you was wretched, 675 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: let's make some noise for that. Goddamnity. I'm talking about 676 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: the show. One of my favorite songs of all time, 677 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: the Summertime talk to us about the making. Did you 678 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: guys know that record was gonna be as big as 679 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: if he Can? I remember watching the video for the 680 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: first time on the show. Wouldn't they and their intermation 681 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: or something like, let me tell you something. I judge 682 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: people barbecues, but based on if they play summer Time 683 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: or not. Nigger. If they don't play smer Time about 684 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: your food is tracked. She got not cant doing nothing else, dude. 685 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: But if I don't here Summertime, I own them. At 686 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: least just put your food down. I'm sorry. I throw 687 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: it out there to mean sorry, I got I got 688 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: a little clearer. I mean, you know we um it 689 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: was funny. That was the first year that Will was 690 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 1: on the show. Um. And you know we east ghost fall, 691 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: leaves turn brown, get a little chilly there. You're jacking 692 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: off winter snow. You got your bomber ski hat. Spring, 693 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, first day of spring and seventy degrees. We 694 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: go overboard and we don'ta throw some shorts on and 695 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: think think think it's hot. But you see the girl 696 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: that you ain't seen all something, and she got a 697 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: little thick. Your man got a new car and he 698 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: he now shining. And what happened was he was in 699 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: l A. So it's ninety in the in the winter. 700 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: So I remember him calling me in the spring, you know, 701 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: the first nice day we had. It was just like yo, 702 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: what's up? And I'm just like yo, So I just 703 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: said she ball, she stocked now and set us just 704 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: got a new car and set us up, you know, 705 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: and he was like, damn, I missed that, Like and 706 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: I never thought about that, Like, Yo, you don't get 707 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: the seasons changing, so you don't have that in nostalgia. 708 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: It's a little bit different, you know. You know, it's 709 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: it's nineties Christmas. So that was the inspire easing that 710 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: it was like, yo, like I'm I missed summertime in Philly. 711 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: I missed these nuances. And it was crazy because not 712 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: realizing that every place has their own nuance didn't have 713 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: to be what he talked about, Um, yeah, that's a 714 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: universal record. And it was kind of like we put 715 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: the record out and you know, it was everybody loved 716 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: it or something like it. You know. But then what 717 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: happened was the next summer came and you was kind 718 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: of like, okay, that ship is over with and then 719 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's here again. And then the 720 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: next summer came and it was it was here again, 721 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: and it was kind of like to me as an artist, 722 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: we dreamed to have something that never dies. Yes, you 723 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: dream to have that legacy record that you know sometimes 724 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna be three thousand years old. Yeah, it's gonna 725 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: be and you can't you can't plays. We can go 726 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: to Mars. We can still still here summertimes. All right, 727 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'll tell you that that is 728 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: a unit virtue. Today is a good day, ice Cube, 729 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: That's one of them. Whenever you have a good day, whenever, 730 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: like ship is real, Like you just gotta listen to 731 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: ice Cube. But I was about when you know that 732 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 1: it's springs, like because it's a certain smell spring is leaving, 733 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: and when you know where summer is coming, and I 734 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: just need to hear that something. Somebody's car. See, I'm 735 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 1: a barb with you guy me so I got the 736 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: head of the barbercue. I'm gonna going out of there. Man, 737 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: I'll take it personal. So so you guys, uh, you 738 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: you go on tour. Uh he does h the fresh 739 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 1: Princess that he starts going into into movies. Who was 740 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: the first one Independence Day? Uh? No, he did the Fish. 741 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: First movie was, uh, I want to say this movie 742 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: called Where the Day Takes You, but I think he 743 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 1: played a homeless man. But it was kind of like 744 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: his first like trying to getting getting into it. And 745 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 1: then um, he did uh the thing with Nia and 746 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: Ted dancing and Whoopie Goldberg. I forgot the name of that. Um, 747 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: but it was just you know, you started seeing you 748 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: started seeing the roles coming. Um that the first time 749 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 1: hip hop is actually interim movie world. Yeah, to that level, 750 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 1: because you know it was funny. Um, you know, there 751 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: was a bunch of people that kind of came up. 752 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: Queen was doing it for the female and yeah you 753 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: do it and wrong new Jack but there's no rapper 754 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: ye okay, okay, but New Jack City came out. I 755 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: mean we went to the screen of New Jack City, 756 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: I want to set the fresh prints. So it was 757 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: kind of like everybody was trying to get their field, 758 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, And then it was I think what it 759 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: was we were also stereotyped as rappers that it's kind 760 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: of like you gotta play the role that he played 761 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: and New Jack's City, UM, and I think, um, you know, 762 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: Will would kind of play this funny guy. And you know, 763 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,320 Speaker 1: I remember when he did that movie, um, six Degrees 764 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: of Separation, UM, and I remember him talking about, like, Yo, 765 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: I'm there's certain you know, black directors and people that 766 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: I want to work with that I can't seem to 767 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: break through. And when he did that movie, that movie 768 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: was so far left and he did such a great 769 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: job that it separated him from everybody else that it 770 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: got to the point that it's kind of like, down, 771 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: I'm getting calls from everybody. But I remember, you know 772 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: when when when he did that was probably one of 773 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: the first times that I realized how in depth being 774 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: an actor is, because like it was crazy because we 775 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: were going through a little bit of a friction, and 776 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: the the mood that he had to get into play 777 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: that role offered a lot of compassion and that kind 778 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 1: of enabled us to sit down and squash whatever friction 779 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: that we had. But it was wild because he was like, yo, 780 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes you go these places and you 781 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: you don't know how to get back, you know, because 782 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, like it's the whole thing that you know, 783 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: like they said, Denzel becomes every character he is. I 784 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 1: watched that what I watched the entire time that Will 785 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: did alive. He never spoke to me out of Ali's character. 786 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 1: And it was the weirdest ship in the world. Listen. 787 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: He would talk to me to the point that I 788 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: had to get off the phone because he would talk 789 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: to me as mannerisms and all, you know, And I'm like, 790 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: you know, you laughing off because I'm waiting for you 791 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,839 Speaker 1: to break and he would never break. And I'll call 792 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: you back, you know, but you realize how deep you 793 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: got to get into that. I think it's called us. 794 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: I was on the set with some dude right that 795 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: it's not pretty, it's not that cool because like he 796 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: was a dick in the movie, so he has to 797 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: be a dick like like so that this dude is 798 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: just walking about and your homeboys the last this ship 799 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: is said Colorad. Alright, that's just that's another again, my 800 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: my bad, that's my stuff. But yeah, like the level 801 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: that that he has helped hoping up, like do you 802 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: guys because this, yes, y'all I can see together is 803 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: that like I like, I went to all the party. 804 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: It was a Netflix party that he had. Um that 805 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: the ship that the new movie had just happened, right, 806 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: and it was crazy. And I walked I walked in, 807 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about there was so many white people. 808 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 1: God bless, there were so many white people. But I'm 809 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 1: looking and I'm like, do they know about here? And 810 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: I look and this is also it was real funny 811 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: for me because I said, up nor, I said, I 812 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't even didn't know me, but it 813 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: was hilarious. Man, I ain't gonna lie. I love. I 814 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: love what you guys did for hip hop. You know 815 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: what I mean? Because you guys took chances, you guys 816 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: took risk. You guys make globally music first. You guys 817 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: put it on the front that you know. You know, dog, 818 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,719 Speaker 1: you think what was going on? And wasn't you still 819 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 1: you still who you guys were to the test of time. 820 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 1: And look at look at your career, look at your legacy. 821 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: You guys should be saluted every day. Every day you 822 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: should say you sweet Jazzy Jeff motherfucking day. God damn it, 823 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 1: God damn legacy. And so we're so, why do you 824 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,360 Speaker 1: still DJ? You still love it? You still do? I 825 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: love it? Man, I DJ more now than I ever 826 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: did in my entire I work one now than I 827 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: ever worked in my life ever. And it's because isn't 828 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: the is the feeling that you're addicted to the same thing. 829 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: Don't ask you a question. I'm not talking the music 830 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: business or any of that. Are you smarter than you 831 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 1: were when you put out your first album? Absolutely? Do 832 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 1: you think you you you're more lyrical than you are. 833 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: Your vocabulary grown since you put out your first album. 834 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:23,839 Speaker 1: Probably not. I'm probably a kidn't differ. I'm different vocabulary, 835 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,879 Speaker 1: but everything else I got smart. Yeah, I mean it's 836 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: kind of like you you you know how to navigate 837 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: it exactly. You know, you know, you know how to 838 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: maneuver in it. You know what I mean that, it's 839 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: kind of like see for me, for artists, I got 840 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: I got tired of being on stage. See dj you 841 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: control the stage on the low if you actually think 842 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: what you said when you first said, you said, it's 843 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: a wizard. And that's the best way to kind of 844 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: describe a djail. You guys are in there with your lawns. 845 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: That's your lawn. But see for me to stand there 846 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 1: and just have to keep entertaining people for a certain 847 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 1: amount of time, I kind of like I grew that, 848 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: not not in a bad way because I was still 849 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 1: love the perform I don't ever wanted people to get 850 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: that miss con screwed. But you know it's it's it's 851 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: it gets it gets redundant, you know what I'm saying, 852 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: because where a lot of times like the entertainment, it's 853 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: not no, it's no difference between us and a stripper, 854 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like a stripper goals and dances, 855 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: and like I'm just saying, Jake asked, I think it's 856 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:24,720 Speaker 1: up the stage and hate it. I'm just saying, sometimes 857 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 1: that's an artist. You you performed. I wnuna tell you 858 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: I said the story before, but I'm gonna tell you 859 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: this is the one time this is I kind of 860 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,840 Speaker 1: stopped performing. I have one of the most pruitiful times 861 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,280 Speaker 1: I've ever had. It hampets and we're sitting there smoking 862 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: and I smoked. This is when I smoked cigarettes. And 863 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: the guy he paid me. Of course he paid me, 864 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,919 Speaker 1: so he says, hey, you ready, let's go as who 865 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: it was. Just how he's he made no harm, he 866 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: made no harm, he made no disrespect. But just just 867 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: just you understand what I'm saying said you're ready, let's go. 868 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 1: He didn't even make contact with me. I said, yeah, 869 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't work for you. Even though I had this money, 870 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: I wasn't worked for I that day. And that's when 871 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: I stopped slowing down those shows and I slowed two 872 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: more bogies. This makes no noise to me. I couldn't 873 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: never again, I can't do that, said, you're gonna have 874 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: to wait another twenty minutes. Russia didn't do it for you. 875 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 1: When we went to Russia, Russia, they almost kill us. Yeah, 876 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: kill us Russians. I ain't gonna lie. We was in 877 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: the part of Russia. This is how where we are 878 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: at St. Petersburg. Ever, but at the time, I don't 879 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: know if it changed, but at the time it was 880 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 1: so racist that the Russians that was with us had 881 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,560 Speaker 1: to wear buttons that said Russians against racism. You know 882 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: you're in a racist We even gonna say we ain't 883 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: doing that was terrible. Yeah, we do some ship man, 884 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: God bless you. Yeah. But as an artist, I kind 885 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: of I kind of feel like, you know, I've seen 886 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen you know what was I don't 887 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: know what tip trill and you know all of the 888 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 1: famous strippers. They always come to Miami and people always 889 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 1: go see it. And I always, you know, every now 890 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: and then I'll go and let's see. You know, I'm married, man, 891 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,840 Speaker 1: let's just watch you know, um, but I'm serious, but 892 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,399 Speaker 1: you know, and then you see these strippers that will 893 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: perform and then the happiest one that someone stolen dollars 894 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: on them and then they turned around and then they 895 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: throw on this ice grill. And it's similar to how 896 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: a person who has to perform performs, you know, because's 897 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: certain people have to like there's certain people who like 898 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,439 Speaker 1: you know, you know, you see them like this nigg 899 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 1: is this nig you know. But then there's people who 900 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: just they love it. And when you outgrow it, you 901 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta fall in love back with it. You're 902 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: gonna be the stripper. You're gonna be the stripper that 903 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 1: walks over and be like, man, man, these niggers keep 904 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: throwing money at me. I'm sorry, man, I don't know 905 00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 1: where about. I don't wait, ship got man, were lady 906 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: to strip us and ship It's crazy. I think the 907 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 1: difference is what you were saying. It's it's a difference 908 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: between one thing to do it. Yeah, and have to 909 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: do you know, when you when you when you when 910 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: you want to do something, like you were saying, like 911 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: you develop more love for you to develop more skills 912 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: for it, like, um, you know. I remember speaking to 913 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: Buster one time and Buster said to me, he said, 914 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: you don't I don't do no nineties parties. And I 915 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: had to ask him. I said, wow, he said, because 916 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: if I do a nineties parties, that's the way they 917 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 1: want to keep me at Do you think that's Do 918 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 1: you think that's all? Like he feels he's gonna be 919 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 1: pigeon hell to that. I mean Busters case. I'm not 920 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: saying in the Busters case. I'm saying in your case, 921 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: like or and in your case you do whatever, okay, 922 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: Like it's kind of like the the thing about that 923 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: if you do a nineties party, just do your nineties ship. 924 00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: You know that you don't have to do that everywhere. 925 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's kind of like, um, you 926 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,479 Speaker 1: know we I pretty much know what I'm going into 927 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: to a certain degree. I know how how deep I 928 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: gotta go. I know how much is it me doing 929 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: what I do and how much is it I have 930 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: to split what I do to what you want, so 931 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 1: you kind of you kind of know that, so I 932 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: knock on wood. I'm never going into something blind, you know, 933 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: just just completely like listen, I do a hundred and 934 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: sixty hundred and seventy days a year wrestling. That is 935 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: that is wrestling, get a lot of money. But you know, 936 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's you understand, you know, like I know 937 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 1: what this club is gonna be like to a certain degree, 938 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,560 Speaker 1: Like I got I got a range that it's gonna 939 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 1: be here and here. You know, I know when I 940 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: go overseas and I do these tours like this is 941 00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: this is where I'm at. You know, I know, you know, 942 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: you do the bottle service, your range might have to 943 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 1: be a little bit shifted to the left. You know, 944 00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,760 Speaker 1: I go to Germany, I know my ship is shifted 945 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: to the right, you know, and you just and you 946 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: just kind of know, like that's that's your job is 947 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,280 Speaker 1: to kind of figure out your environment. Let's think about 948 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: being a DJ is y'all think it's our geniuses. You 949 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: could actually go there. Listen, my DJ. I'mna tell you 950 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna say no, no, 951 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: never said the story, but Butcher used to always go 952 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: to my show was thirty minutes before and tell me, 953 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,240 Speaker 1: because you know, I got Spanish records, I got fucking 954 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, CNN records, I got NORRY records. So what 955 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 1: DJ would go and he would study the crown for 956 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 1: half an hour. But this one time we didn't go. 957 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 1: We went on time and we were late. So on time, 958 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 1: it's late, and I kid you not, God bless his soul. 959 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: Prodigy was out there on stage, but he had a 960 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: DAT so he must have came as DJ him in Havings, 961 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: d I think DJ missed the flight so I had 962 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: never a new popcorn fly they do popcorn. I was like, 963 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: I'm not going out there. I said, no way. If 964 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: they don't popcorn on that pee. This is the god 965 00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 1: at the time, my DJ, in my mind, I don't 966 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: think he did it, but in my mind he smacked 967 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: me and said, shut up, you're going out there. It's 968 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: the first time he started with super Dog. Super Dog 969 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 1: was closerup, what what what? And he was like fun 970 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: and my mind he smacked me. I'm sure he came. 971 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 1: What was trying? He was like, shut up and just 972 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: and he never gave me the list. We didn't go 973 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: with no records. He just went out there and he 974 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: went to all the number one you know, the ones 975 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: you saved. We went to the Rose, first five, put 976 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,799 Speaker 1: it in the crowd, started all night Loomotive was because 977 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: like it was, it was one us all night. You 978 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: saved the show. Russian guy, I just kept putting his 979 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 1: hands on my hand in my neck because money go out. 980 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: But that's why, that's why I look like a good 981 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: DJ will sit there and say, y'all, I know exactly 982 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: what you hey. Sometimes one time was in Germany and 983 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 1: everybody in the crowds from her Duris. I had no 984 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: idea from it made no sense. It made no sense 985 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: from my DJ. My DJ was in the crowd and 986 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 1: knew that, and he played my Spanish record, So I 987 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: killed the ground. Let's basically geman want the spars. I'm sorry, man, 988 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,839 Speaker 1: go on, think if I'm not wrong, he's that crazy. 989 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 1: Ain't crack back. Then let's talk time. DJ lat me 990 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: come on at tracks going on. I see you on 991 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: the day. That's right, that's something that's crazy going on. 992 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 1: Baby man, Real DJ ship Man, Real DJ was gonna 993 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,439 Speaker 1: love Real DJ ship. You know how much I listened 994 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: to every time I see you. I tell y'all listen 995 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: to the Oh listen, you guys got any questions, but 996 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: come on, I know you gotta be inspiration to y'all, 997 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,799 Speaker 1: to me, to y'all. You know, then listen, you don't. 998 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: That's the one. Let's make some ually like on that 999 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 1: career bad right now, That's what we were saying. The longevity, 1000 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: the longest here you could speak into it. Someone you 1001 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: give a child, man, I'm sorry, we don't organized eyes. 1002 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, this guy's incredible. Man. 1003 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 1: We we we we we we salute our legends over here, 1004 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 1: and then it will be something you know, legends to 1005 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: it exactly, exactly, crazy as the Pride of Miami. Yeah, man, 1006 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: and listen, I didn't start as young as a track. 1007 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: So how young did you start? I started at thirteen? 1008 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: Was wait a minute, world champion? Yeah yeah, yeah, pick 1009 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,920 Speaker 1: that up? Whoa wait? Wait wait? The world champion of that? 1010 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: It was? It was the DMC World Championships. We all 1011 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: used to do all these battles. Jeff before us, but 1012 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: me and Craz won a bunch of these world titles. 1013 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: When how were you to do when I saw you 1014 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 1: that first battle of fifteen. That's the real and DJs 1015 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,960 Speaker 1: rappers don't notice. DJs is you're starting out real real, 1016 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: like you don't get paid good at first. You gotta 1017 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: be good to get paid because there's a lot of locals, Yeah, 1018 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: that don't really get paid. Yeah, you know what, shut up. 1019 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: Shout out to the DJ's held all down. Yeah yeah, 1020 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,080 Speaker 1: big up to all the club dj and the DJs 1021 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,800 Speaker 1: that have residencies every week because they hold down their 1022 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: market and their their job is actually tougher than ours, 1023 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: I think because if they don't, like Jeff was talking 1024 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 1: about being a servant of the crowd, you know, at 1025 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: least we have the luxury to have a certain weights 1026 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: our name, so when we show up in the venue, 1027 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: we can still steer it where we want. But if 1028 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: you're the resident DJ at the club and you're not 1029 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: playing with the crowd wants, don't just leave. They'll they'll leave, 1030 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 1: they'll leave the dance floor. The manager will take you off. 1031 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: Like Actually, those that like their jobs like it's like 1032 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: the y'allow the closer DJ's right, So is there a 1033 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,360 Speaker 1: rule like the opening DJ comes, this is their records 1034 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: that he shouldn't play. It used to be ethics there's no, 1035 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: but I'm saying that there should be. But now there's 1036 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: if we see a lot of people that don't really 1037 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: respect that. So so if the number one record is 1038 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: out and the opening DJ he can't play it, and 1039 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 1: you guys won't take it, well, I'm gonna tell you 1040 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: what the difference is is, especially these guys, what you 1041 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:48,440 Speaker 1: do is the number one record, Like it's not the record, 1042 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like there's a level that 1043 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm coming to see Crazy, I'm coming to see a track. 1044 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily coming to see what Crazy and a 1045 00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: track are going to play. There the entity of themselves 1046 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 1: that it's kind of like when you get to that level, 1047 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: you almost a kind of like I don't given what 1048 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,919 Speaker 1: you play instruments people, but I don't care what you play. 1049 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 1: But not just that. It's kind of like I've seen 1050 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: both of these guys play numerous of times. There's a 1051 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 1: man fucking records. I'm not gonna be mad because you 1052 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: played one of the records And I had that with 1053 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 1: somebody that they had a pre something mapped out set 1054 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: and I played a couple of records and it was 1055 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,200 Speaker 1: like you freaked out, and I was just like fucking 1056 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 1: to play something like if you would play this, I'm 1057 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 1: gonna play something different. Like you looked at it, you 1058 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, it's not like I'm going 1059 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 1: on stage and I'm performing one of jay Z's records. 1060 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 1: Before jay Z. It's like because certain DJ's used to 1061 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: facts a list to venues. If you books such and 1062 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: such in your city, as like the promoter the or 1063 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 1: the club own or whatever, you would receive a list 1064 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,680 Speaker 1: of records to give to your o opener to say, 1065 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: do not play the records from this list disrespected the 1066 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: opener did play it. But that's also because before Serato 1067 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 1: and all of that, as the DJ would travel to 1068 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: your city with whatever, three crates of records and that's 1069 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,000 Speaker 1: all he had. So DJ before played a couple of 1070 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 1: those records, you're like, yo, this, I don't have other 1071 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: stuff to play. So that's changed with the digital age. 1072 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 1: I have a question for Jeff actually on that topic 1073 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,480 Speaker 1: of like playing to the crowd and traveling and everything. 1074 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Like I know one thing that I'm sure we've all 1075 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: noticed this, like in the in the last ten plus years, 1076 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 1: once you know, blogs and the Internet and everything really 1077 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: connected the whole world and it got to a point where, 1078 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, youth culture in North America, Europe, Asia, Latin America, 1079 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: after Africa, everyone has been listening to the same records 1080 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: at the same time through the internet. Right. But I 1081 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,800 Speaker 1: remember early even my early trips to certain parts of 1082 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Asia where I would play, start playing the crowd and 1083 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 1: being like, oh shit, they I don't even know what 1084 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: records they know and like here, So like for you, 1085 01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Jeff ro was that like going to certain what if 1086 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: I I've always had a tunnel vision right, wrong and different. 1087 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: It's kind of like I am I am the state 1088 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: big potato and salad that you get in the restaurant. 1089 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you this ship and you're not. If 1090 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,920 Speaker 1: you book state big Potato in salad, you're gonna get it. 1091 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,760 Speaker 1: And it's kind of like, you know sometimes you know, 1092 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: there were times that it didn't. You know, for the 1093 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,240 Speaker 1: most part, it's kind of like I believe that you know, 1094 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: if people are booking you for you that it's kind 1095 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: of like, you know, especially you really gotta stick to 1096 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do me when I don't know what this is. 1097 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: When you are unsure, the one thing that you were 1098 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 1: sure of is yourself and it's kind of like I 1099 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: don't know what language they're speaking, but I'm gonna play, 1100 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:58,439 Speaker 1: Biggie what you were saying that you guys felt about 1101 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: New York. You have this perception, and I'm sure when 1102 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 1: you go to these places in that area, they just 1103 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,040 Speaker 1: had a perception. They just wanted Jeff. They're playing. But 1104 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: let me tell me, because you guys as DJs as 1105 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,880 Speaker 1: this record, I don't know whose sings in. I don't 1106 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,440 Speaker 1: know what they're saying. I like it, I just don't know, am, 1107 01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't point it goes Moe. Is that one of 1108 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: the highest records for a year. I don't know what. 1109 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what who, I 1110 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,439 Speaker 1: don't know, I can't under but there is that those 1111 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 1: words may be art and if I'm not mistaken, I 1112 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: think the title is after the dude that plays for 1113 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 1: the man, Orlando. That's his man, so he named it 1114 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: after his man. Who's the best, Well, who's a wokie? Yeah? 1115 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: And then homies like Scheck and Obamba. I think they 1116 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: went to school again, that's how their homies or something. 1117 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 1: So and then Check named the record after Now you bet, Kanye, 1118 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: but what was your affiliation with Kanye and official tour 1119 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: DJ for years. I just did one year. Chris came 1120 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,120 Speaker 1: in after Ilia when when I left when I started 1121 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Fool's Gold, and I told, yeah, I'm not just gonna 1122 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 1: leave you high and driving to give you the best 1123 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 1: TJ in the world. Chris Man. Yeah, So now how 1124 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,120 Speaker 1: is it? How is both of you guys been on 1125 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: tour card for our fans who probably won't know or 1126 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: ever get a chance to imagine that. Who's breathing that hard? 1127 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: You need guys, because now I'm just telling you have 1128 01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: to pay way too much. I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean 1129 01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,360 Speaker 1: I just did one year, so like was in and 1130 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: out and I couldn't DJ from anymore because I was 1131 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: just like I want to beat my yeah, And I 1132 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: feel like when when you came in something like the 1133 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: staging change. I was lucky because I came in right 1134 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: at the start, like when I when I got the 1135 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 1: job college dropout. It just came out and if you 1136 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 1: went to see a show, it was yeah, me and 1137 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 1: John Legend on stage and that was it. I would 1138 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: play the tracks, John would you know, play piano on top, 1139 01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: sing and the show was us. And it was a 1140 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 1: really cool experience because we all kind of grew together, 1141 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: and then when he decided to bring in a string section, 1142 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 1: he would have me speak to the string section and 1143 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: kind of like help director. Yeah, Orgestra, Yeah, like I 1144 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: had to learn how to like talk to hardcast. Yeah, 1145 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: this is the part where so the learning process was cool, 1146 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: and like we all come from a very you know, 1147 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:48,520 Speaker 1: from like an underground hip hop place where, and I 1148 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 1: think all of us started with battles. Also, So our 1149 01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: first couple of years we were we were performing to 1150 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 1: an audience that was like sort of in on the jump, 1151 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: like an audience that knows everything that we know. They 1152 01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 1: know same codes. They had seen other DJs that were 1153 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: as technical as us. So we're sort of preaching to 1154 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 1: the choir. Fir, this is the big polo cane right 1155 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 1: right right, So, and I'm saying like even prior to that, 1156 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 1: I was I was performing to crowds that already knew 1157 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 1: what I was doing on stage because you know, turntableism, 1158 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 1: I've gotten pretty technical in advance, but the crowd knew 1159 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 1: that I was doing. What I enjoyed with the Kanye 1160 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: experience was I had to perform for crowds that had 1161 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 1: no idea what I was doing and I have to 1162 01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 1: figure out to still make it work. So the growth 1163 01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 1: with that was cool because I went from you know, 1164 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 1: working in a sort of closed circle, so then that 1165 01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 1: box breaking open. You know, you definitely side with all 1166 01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: the turn with will too when you're in front of 1167 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 1: a crowd that's like, you know, teenage girls that like 1168 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: that song from MTV and you and your your m 1169 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: C is like, all right, now show them why you're 1170 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 1: the greatest DJ in the world. You've got to convince 1171 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 1: an audience that doesn't even know what you're about to do, 1172 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: and that forces you to learn how to adapt your craft. 1173 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 1: So that growth was cool. You think DJs get the 1174 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: amount of props to the desserved No, no, no, I 1175 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 1: mean I think I think it's better now as Yeah, 1176 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, but but you know what, and and and 1177 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think bad of the the DJ 1178 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,680 Speaker 1: explosion because I think we were in the dark for 1179 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: so long that I accepted the explosion that was just 1180 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,240 Speaker 1: the counteract. Like, you know, I felt like the DJ 1181 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 1: was cast aside, especially in hip hop. Like I've really 1182 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,400 Speaker 1: started to get angry because I'm kind of like every 1183 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: rock group in the world has a DJ and every 1184 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 1: hip hop artists and has a death machine, you know, 1185 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,800 Speaker 1: and it was just kind of like wow, like this 1186 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: is this this all kind of went together. But what 1187 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 1: happened was you cast us deside, and we just kind 1188 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,200 Speaker 1: of created a world on our own that's kind of like, 1189 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,760 Speaker 1: well ship, if we are the ones that play the 1190 01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: music for people to dance. Because I really thought that 1191 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Vegas was going to be Bismarcki jay Z, Like I've 1192 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 1: thought like, okay, we got Sammy Davis Jr. All of 1193 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,360 Speaker 1: us that I thought that the growth of Vegas was 1194 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 1: going to be the performers in hip hop, not the DJs. 1195 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: But it got to the point that it was kind 1196 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: of like, well ship, you got one good record, six 1197 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: bad records. He can play all good records. I'm gonna 1198 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 1: get him to play it. I don't need to see 1199 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: you perform. I can have him play your record, you know. 1200 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: And a lot of that was because there was no togetherness. 1201 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 1: We we were pushed to the side. Whether we was 1202 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 1: kind of like yeo, let's start our own networking community, 1203 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 1: and and it just blew up on the side. And 1204 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,920 Speaker 1: now everybody who raps wants to be a DJ, you know, 1205 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 1: everybody wants to be a d jack. Now I'm not 1206 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna I thought I could DJ for a second. I 1207 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 1: didn't try, I didn't go publicly. And you know what's 1208 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,600 Speaker 1: I do not get mad at anybody on earth who 1209 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: wants to try to be a DJ. I am not 1210 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 1: mad at You're not mad at J. Let me tell you. 1211 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what it's. It's but what I'm 1212 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 1: not gonna do. I am not gonna not play high 1213 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,440 Speaker 1: school ball, college ball. Send me pro and go and 1214 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 1: try it for the sixers. I think that's disrespectful. It's 1215 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 1: disrespectful for all of the people that put in all 1216 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 1: of the time. You can play ball, but there's a 1217 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,320 Speaker 1: different level. So I'm kind of like, then you just 1218 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: need to be prepared to somebody throw you on the 1219 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 1: floor against the Knicks and you Anthony, and you gotta 1220 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: take that happen comes and starts walking off. Somebody who 1221 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,640 Speaker 1: gets into it or wants to get into it, or 1222 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 1: cares about getting into it, you know, the more to 1223 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 1: marry it. But it's kind of like I've said on 1224 01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 1: occasions that I'm never worried about another DJ more than 1225 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 1: I'm worried about myself. Like it's it's so because the 1226 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 1: person can control the playlist, don't mean controller party. Listen. 1227 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something I've always said, learning to 1228 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,479 Speaker 1: be a great DJ is not about the good night. 1229 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: This is about how you do the bad. It's about 1230 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: how you listen. Because we all know that night that 1231 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm it's kind of like yo. Like 1232 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 1: I've looked at my watch and I'm like, i gotta 1233 01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 1: play two hours and i got an hour and fifty 1234 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 1: five minutes left. Let me tell you something I did. 1235 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: This guy in Canada voked me. He was the Soaker 1236 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: Prince of Canada. This motherfucker was like, I want you 1237 01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,519 Speaker 1: to play this POxy Listen. I don't know shit about 1238 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,960 Speaker 1: something I'm not said, it don't matter. I want you 1239 01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 1: to do you. I stuck to my guns and was 1240 01:09:53,600 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: like no, no, no, no, fucking When I tell you, 1241 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 1: I walked in and never realized that Soca was a 1242 01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety vo PPM and it was didn't didn't 1243 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and it was three thousand. Motherfucker's name was Crazy And 1244 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 1: let me tell you, we got me nervous. Right before 1245 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 1: I went on. He walked over. He said, still for 1246 01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: you to drop a couple of socer records said I 1247 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: told you because he was like, you know, if you 1248 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 1: if you want, and I came on and when I 1249 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: tell you, I will never in my life forget the 1250 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,680 Speaker 1: girl in the front row because I didn't play the 1251 01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,200 Speaker 1: whole set. I played maybe like thirty minutes, but for 1252 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:50,040 Speaker 1: twenty seven minutes she was like this. She would not 1253 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,800 Speaker 1: stop shaking her hand, like Dave was so fu mad 1254 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,599 Speaker 1: for me. And then you know, because you go through 1255 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 1: that ego like fuck it, y'all playing Canada, I'm a plow. 1256 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:09,400 Speaker 1: You know. It's Caribbean people with attitudes and it's cold 1257 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 1: and Canada, and but you have everybody has the names 1258 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, as a DJ, you learned how 1259 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 1: to get through those nights. Like you know, it's kind 1260 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: of like we all kind of know what we want 1261 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 1: to play, but we all have the ability to make 1262 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:31,120 Speaker 1: a motherfucking detour and a heartbeat because you have to 1263 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 1: like listen, I'm not gonna fit that round pig in 1264 01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 1: the square holes that's gonna fit. I'm grabbing another pig, 1265 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 1: you know. But you you know, and I'm like a 1266 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 1: lot of these new guys no one way, they don't 1267 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 1: trouble shoot and it's kind of like you can see, 1268 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,519 Speaker 1: you can see like you know, we had plenty of 1269 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,960 Speaker 1: times standing on stage like yo, he's he's going down 1270 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 1: in the flame. He's going down, Like I feel bad. 1271 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,840 Speaker 1: You know that's how you figured out you have a 1272 01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 1: you have a tape? Are you a world together? We 1273 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,679 Speaker 1: had we had a We never had a bad show. 1274 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,720 Speaker 1: But we did the Apollo that you didn't get. No, no, 1275 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,000 Speaker 1: I tell you, we were on the edge. It would 1276 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:23,240 Speaker 1: be sa come out. We didn't do that Apolo. We 1277 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:27,240 Speaker 1: did Apollo Theater. But we did the Apollo Theater with 1278 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:32,880 Speaker 1: Guy at the height of guide them and we were headlining, 1279 01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,519 Speaker 1: and it was kind of like, yo, who the fund 1280 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 1: made us headline with Guy in Now y'all fucking groove 1281 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,120 Speaker 1: me and and and I think I which was already 1282 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: a little suspect, you know, and I'm a man. That 1283 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,760 Speaker 1: ship was hot. But the bad thing is we did 1284 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 1: two shows. We did a matinee show, which we got 1285 01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: through by the skin of our teeth, and then we 1286 01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,160 Speaker 1: had to do the nighttime show and both up all yes, 1287 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:06,080 Speaker 1: same and the waiting for that second show hand sweating 1288 01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:11,920 Speaker 1: because we like yo, we we can't go him after 1289 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,560 Speaker 1: God like you can't go on after Teddy Riley and 1290 01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: hard Teddy could spit from his crew, do you know? 1291 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was you know, I never want to 1292 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 1: think about them day. So you want to think so 1293 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 1: you would label at your work show not not not 1294 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: a bad show, but yo, like you're not so great? 1295 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah that was that was it. I mean, you know 1296 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: we we we should. What's your favorite show man? I 1297 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 1: can't because that's that, you know. I don't know if 1298 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 1: I wanted the standouts ones where you you just it 1299 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 1: was like, well, you know, what's crazy? After twenty years, 1300 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 1: Will and I did two shows last year. We did 1301 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 1: a show in Croatia and we did a show on 1302 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 1: Blackpool in the UK, um and it was just us 1303 01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:00,040 Speaker 1: and it was like thirty thou people um and and 1304 01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 1: it was you know, it was it was. It was 1305 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,320 Speaker 1: different because you don't know, you know, it's kind of 1306 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,560 Speaker 1: like ship we're doing these shows. I don't know, like 1307 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 1: from that from I have no idea what my old 1308 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Will's relevancy to the world is. You know, you hear it, 1309 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: but but I want the legend. But you I almost 1310 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 1: think everybody's lying to you, So you don't know, but 1311 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,640 Speaker 1: I understand. I mean, listen, you know you don't know, 1312 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, And and to me it's it's safer for 1313 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 1: me not knowing, because you know, I don't know where 1314 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,280 Speaker 1: i'd be if if But it's just you know, so 1315 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 1: so going out and you know, somebody selling the show 1316 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 1: with tickets and all the rest of this. You just 1317 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 1: kind of like that is anybody gonna show up? How 1318 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 1: do you know? But to watch people show up and 1319 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 1: with albums and fresh princivallet of jerseys and jackets and 1320 01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, and it was just um, and it was 1321 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:05,200 Speaker 1: crazy because during the show, Um, I had a monitor 1322 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: in Will's air. Then I had a microphone that I 1323 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 1: could talk to him doing the show, and I was like, yo, 1324 01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 1: tell everybody to put up their phone and turn their 1325 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 1: flashlights on. And when he when he said it, I 1326 01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,920 Speaker 1: was so overwhelmed that I couldn't pick my phone up 1327 01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,000 Speaker 1: and take a picture of it. Like I frozzed because too, 1328 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:29,760 Speaker 1: because it was on a pier and you know, in 1329 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: in England, and you couldn't see how far the crowd 1330 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,640 Speaker 1: went back. So when everybody put their light on and 1331 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: you kind of saw how far thirty thousand people went back. 1332 01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,799 Speaker 1: I couldn't pick my phone up and take a picture 1333 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,679 Speaker 1: because you were just kind of like like and listen, 1334 01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 1: we ain't never got to do another show in life. 1335 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm good, you know. Goddam Let's make some noise for 1336 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: that guy. Where was this a real crazy show? He 1337 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 1: just he just jumped in the Grand Canyon bungee jump 1338 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 1: the Grand can I was scared the depth the whole 1339 01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 1: time on Instagram looking at that. Were you there? I 1340 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,160 Speaker 1: wasn't going to that, But did you watch it? Oh? Yeah, 1341 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 1: I watched it. There's nobody nobody close to him like that, 1342 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 1: nobody like Charlie Curson on that you know, Charlie cursonal 1343 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Live TV. Because he you know, he was uncomfortable. We 1344 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: all were uncomfortable because I might did that. No, is 1345 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 1: that comfortable? Is having too much money? You just want 1346 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 1: to do whatever you want, he said, I've just asked 1347 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,200 Speaker 1: to be an interress. Will couldn't swim And I watched 1348 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Will cliffdove in Jamaica. He paid a guy to be 1349 01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,519 Speaker 1: in the water at the bottom and he cliff over 1350 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:52,560 Speaker 1: in Jamaica in the water and he couldn't swim. So 1351 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:58,439 Speaker 1: understand his thing. Yeah, listen, his thing has always been 1352 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:02,080 Speaker 1: if I'm afraid of it, I'm running to it. I 1353 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,640 Speaker 1: ain't got that needed, I ain't got none of that 1354 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 1: big man. Listen. But that's always been his name. Listen. 1355 01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 1: He was terrifying of that jumping what he jumped in 1356 01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,560 Speaker 1: the Grand Grand Can. There ain't no there ain't no 1357 01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,840 Speaker 1: black people. Ship. I'm starting out there. It ain't some 1358 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 1: black people. I'm wiping and ship. It's so I'm rich 1359 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 1: and I'm just it's I don't think it's a color 1360 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:28,760 Speaker 1: at all. This has no color. I'm rich and I 1361 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 1: have I'm just gonna live my best life for real, 1362 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,800 Speaker 1: for real like that, because that's getting high, like that's 1363 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,760 Speaker 1: getting hot, like you know with these kids are these 1364 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 1: percosects and it's lean. That's not hot. Rush from that. 1365 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,639 Speaker 1: It's crazy, but you could it could be the old 1366 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 1: One and the Grand Canyon. I'm good. Do you got 1367 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:52,000 Speaker 1: you have a had a bad show? A god, I'm 1368 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,680 Speaker 1: one of those DJs that sticks to his guns. And 1369 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:58,320 Speaker 1: that's a bad. It's more of like I just wanted 1370 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 1: I want it to me. So you're in there playing 1371 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,479 Speaker 1: chief keeping wonta bregage? Though one Danny set a hip 1372 01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 1: hop playing I'm playing druming bass at a hip hop 1373 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 1: clup back when like that show was not et M 1374 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 1: and hip hop or not, I think, wow, early early 1375 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 1: two thousands. So yeah, I was just going to be like, 1376 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,400 Speaker 1: this is what I like on my and you would 1377 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,200 Speaker 1: stick with it and stick with it, and is it 1378 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 1: a sign that you're sucking up? Like he said, the 1379 01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,519 Speaker 1: girl was looking at the crowd starts apart. He started 1380 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 1: to seeing everybody to tell, but I would usually do 1381 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 1: it at the end of the night, though, so I 1382 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 1: make sure I give them what they wanted, you know, 1383 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 1: come seeing you do my thing and I'm playing, You're like, 1384 01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,720 Speaker 1: and then I bes like I teennis you know for 1385 01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 1: me do my thing you Yeah, definitely, I think every 1386 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,719 Speaker 1: DJ has had that show was one of your moments. 1387 01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,080 Speaker 1: To me. A bad shows also if you show up 1388 01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,840 Speaker 1: in some city and there's like no one there, yeah, 1389 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean you show up and you're like, I some 1390 01:18:53,200 --> 01:19:04,200 Speaker 1: of my best shows with like people that these things. 1391 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm but as DJ's, we gotta figure out a vibe, 1392 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 1: even though you know, sometimes that bad show could also 1393 01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,040 Speaker 1: be a full room, but you could like we gotta 1394 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 1: like read the crowd, right, so we're looking. I remember 1395 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,400 Speaker 1: like one show where I was looking and be like, 1396 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,400 Speaker 1: all right, this area wants like house music, in this 1397 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 1: area wants new hip hop, this area wants old hip hop. 1398 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,680 Speaker 1: In this area wants like E. D M. Trap kind 1399 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 1: of stuff. And I gotta like figure out a flow 1400 01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,080 Speaker 1: that makes everyone happy. And sometimes you just can't. That's 1401 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:41,000 Speaker 1: like you gotta crack a code. Sometimes you just don't 1402 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:42,840 Speaker 1: crack the code. At night, You're like I try my best, 1403 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 1: Like yesterday lose at dawn dsces a bit um and 1404 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 1: that crowd was a little different, you know what I'm 1405 01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: trying to say. It's just all different types of people. 1406 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:02,280 Speaker 1: You've got multiple industry people in the and how by 1407 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,760 Speaker 1: the way, it was like a like a like an 1408 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,120 Speaker 1: open bar kind of event, so that draws all kinds 1409 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 1: of people like free alcohol. Now think about it, how 1410 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: do you attack like that? Like? I mean that one 1411 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 1: to me was for me was also kind of casual 1412 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,800 Speaker 1: because it was my friends product launch. I wasn't I 1413 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 1: wasn't even looking at it that much on something like 1414 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 1: ye know, I got to rock the crowd. I was 1415 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,880 Speaker 1: just thinking, here's a bunch of like influencer types that 1416 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 1: came to support you. Know an event, let me just 1417 01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,200 Speaker 1: play some records that they probably didn't expect to hear, 1418 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 1: but that they that they still like. Because a lot 1419 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,360 Speaker 1: of times, like I'll go into a party and think, 1420 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to just make the crowd happy. I 1421 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 1: want to leave a lasting impression and for them to 1422 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 1: go home and tell their friends and be like, yo, 1423 01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:44,559 Speaker 1: a track played this record last night. I never expected 1424 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,680 Speaker 1: to hear that, but it worked. Like, I want to 1425 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,840 Speaker 1: surprise people. That's a big difference between djaying and being 1426 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,639 Speaker 1: an m C. Whereas and m C. You're doing your songs, 1427 01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: but we could play any of the bazillion songs. It's 1428 01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 1: upt us to choose stuff that will work, but hopefully 1429 01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,400 Speaker 1: the surprises people. So the thing like that, Like last night, 1430 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, like, all right, these this crowd probably 1431 01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,439 Speaker 1: has been hearing the same ten songs three times a 1432 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:09,120 Speaker 1: night because whole week during Basil, I mean, and let 1433 01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,479 Speaker 1: me play a few different things to leave an impression. 1434 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 1: You guys prefer doing tables sets or playing full sets. 1435 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest, as the person is not a DJ. 1436 01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what the funk you just said our instruments. 1437 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,320 Speaker 1: What I'm saying these guys could do amazing things on 1438 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 1: the turntable and they could just do that and it 1439 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,280 Speaker 1: would be like a show or do they want to 1440 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,439 Speaker 1: play like? You know, just like But I think the 1441 01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,040 Speaker 1: ultimate goal is to find to figure out to set 1442 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,160 Speaker 1: that merges all of that, and that's I looked up 1443 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,760 Speaker 1: to Jeff from way early on on that tip when 1444 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,400 Speaker 1: I would go see him spin, even back when I 1445 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,120 Speaker 1: lived in Montreal, and I'd be like, Yo, this is 1446 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,840 Speaker 1: so ill because he's rocking the crowd, but he's also 1447 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 1: doing tricks that would normally make the crowd sort of 1448 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,439 Speaker 1: stop and watch. They're still going with it and like 1449 01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,000 Speaker 1: finding that balance that's like the holy grail for technical 1450 01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,320 Speaker 1: So so, so what's your what's your favorite part of 1451 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:11,000 Speaker 1: the UM? You know what I think? I think UM 1452 01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,680 Speaker 1: and and and crazy and Atrack can attest to this 1453 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: as a DJ. There's a point when you know you 1454 01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 1: got and I say, sometimes you got them. Sometimes you 1455 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 1: can have them as soon as you walk on you 1456 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,760 Speaker 1: ain't gotta play ship. It's like, yeah, this is and 1457 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 1: then sometimes it's like, oh, you're gonna fight me a 1458 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:39,880 Speaker 1: little bit minutes to get you. I think what I 1459 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,719 Speaker 1: like is knowing that I know what's about to happen 1460 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 1: three records from now, and you don't, like, I'm like, okay, 1461 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,600 Speaker 1: keep that stone, like, especially when you get to do 1462 01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 1: that's in the front. You want to be in the front, 1463 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,160 Speaker 1: but you want to have a stone face and I'm not, Oh, 1464 01:22:55,439 --> 01:23:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm listen, you're gonna nod your head like I'm betting 1465 01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,040 Speaker 1: money that my goal is kind of like because you 1466 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 1: don't know, and I'm watching me. I'm watching this smile 1467 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,639 Speaker 1: come on and go off. I'm watching ice cream. I'm 1468 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 1: washing your hands loosen up to the point that at 1469 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,640 Speaker 1: the end of the night you can't take it and 1470 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 1: you just say, fucking I'm gonna go to the back. 1471 01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:15,920 Speaker 1: I got it, got to let go. But I think 1472 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,080 Speaker 1: knowing that you know something that everybody else does it. 1473 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 1: But I know what this is gonna end, and I 1474 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 1: know where you're gonna be when this ends, But you 1475 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 1: don't know how do you deal with like, Like one 1476 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,519 Speaker 1: of my worst shows I've had was a guy was 1477 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:39,080 Speaker 1: in a performing the Guys in the Front. Best it 1478 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:44,040 Speaker 1: was your dude that seven songs like Relax. How do 1479 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 1: you deal with drunk people who just come out of you? 1480 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,439 Speaker 1: I don't just request, but I am. I am the 1481 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:56,680 Speaker 1: master already. I listen, I've had this pounds in my 1482 01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,599 Speaker 1: face and I'm like this, but I want to see, 1483 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, because you'll get the guy. It's kind of like, yo, 1484 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know, somebody just want I gotta come 1485 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,560 Speaker 1: up and shake my hand, and especially now like my 1486 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,960 Speaker 1: man got the cell phone, so get me, get getting 1487 01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:18,280 Speaker 1: your getting jets, like I'm right in the middle of something, 1488 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,600 Speaker 1: like tell me what part of this did you Like? 1489 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: I saw the video that kid could pre did and 1490 01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 1: I would never do it, but I gave him so 1491 01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:29,519 Speaker 1: much problems that the girl kept asking him to play 1492 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:36,439 Speaker 1: something and he stopped the music completely and was like, okay, 1493 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,760 Speaker 1: since you want to funk up everybody's good time for 1494 01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,800 Speaker 1: what you want to hear. I want you to tell 1495 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 1: everybody what you want and listen. She started crying. She stopped. 1496 01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:54,640 Speaker 1: But it's kind of like, yo, like you kind of 1497 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:59,439 Speaker 1: got you know, so it's you know, you just gotta 1498 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:03,080 Speaker 1: know m that. I mean, I've seen that. I've seen 1499 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 1: that a couple of times, so you just know that's 1500 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:10,280 Speaker 1: that's that's listen everybody, everybody, you know, I mean, which 1501 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:12,000 Speaker 1: is a whole another issue. But it's kind of like 1502 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,400 Speaker 1: you wake up to the ten songs, you go to 1503 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 1: work to the ten songs, You listen to ten songs 1504 01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 1: and your lunch break, listen to him on the way home, 1505 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 1: and you go to the club and you fucking want 1506 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,560 Speaker 1: to ask me to play the ten song, Like just 1507 01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 1: get in the car and listen to the radio. You 1508 01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you you you have like 1509 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,360 Speaker 1: I believe that especially as these as you have to 1510 01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,639 Speaker 1: kind of you have to kind of stand your ground. 1511 01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,640 Speaker 1: Like there's a level of me that I feel like 1512 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm standing on my ground to protect the culture because 1513 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,320 Speaker 1: one of my biggest fears is is I was like, 1514 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 1: I never I never want to feel like you can 1515 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,719 Speaker 1: walk into a club and the DJ booth being closed 1516 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: and somebody's playing a mix and you don't know m 1517 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 1: let it like, let me, I'll stopped for one second. 1518 01:25:55,479 --> 01:26:00,880 Speaker 1: I was watching something earlier. It was like Robots killed HBO. Right, 1519 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:06,720 Speaker 1: it's basically, um, I'm I'm describing this very long, but 1520 01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,400 Speaker 1: it basically they're showing you how like in a couple 1521 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 1: of years, you might not even need to bar Like 1522 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna have something. Yeah, that's just your gold it's 1523 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,640 Speaker 1: gonna be all that. Do you think they canna ever 1524 01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,719 Speaker 1: do that with a DJ? No, they can't know because 1525 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 1: they got robots right now listen, Because you know, people 1526 01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,560 Speaker 1: talk about equipment that can put things in key and 1527 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 1: put things in mix. What you can never do is 1528 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,960 Speaker 1: find an algorithm that I can look in your eyes 1529 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 1: and tell that you about you really want to fucking 1530 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:44,280 Speaker 1: hear this mob deep record exactly like they when they 1531 01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,360 Speaker 1: developed that. Then I'll get a little nervous, But at 1532 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 1: the you know, at the end of the day, I 1533 01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,920 Speaker 1: also feel like one skin not trying to be conspiracy. 1534 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,559 Speaker 1: There's I also feel like the reason why they're dumbing 1535 01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 1: the music down is to make it to the that 1536 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 1: you can do something like that to make it serviceable. Yeah. 1537 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,480 Speaker 1: So I'm like, yo, like I appreciate, I'm mad, appreciate 1538 01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:10,680 Speaker 1: a track and craze because when you see them, they 1539 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 1: do something that no machine in this world could ever do. 1540 01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,360 Speaker 1: And I think you have to show that. I get 1541 01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,960 Speaker 1: mad at DJs with skills and get up there and 1542 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 1: just play records and never show announce of their skills. 1543 01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, you were you were putting yourself in 1544 01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,400 Speaker 1: this category that they're going to enclose the DJ booth 1545 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 1: and play your fucking mixed team. You better make sure 1546 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,440 Speaker 1: that there's not a machine on earth that can duplicate 1547 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,719 Speaker 1: what you can do, like and that's saving the culture. 1548 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,400 Speaker 1: Because it made me think of that because because actually 1549 01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,920 Speaker 1: I was I was watching it, I was getting a haircut, 1550 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:59,639 Speaker 1: and I just looked at my ball you becoming late 1551 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:07,840 Speaker 1: the probably change the channel, and it made me think 1552 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,960 Speaker 1: of that just now. But that what you just said 1553 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 1: makes DJs are DJs are curators, and so even aside 1554 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:18,479 Speaker 1: from the skill aspect, you know, to have a human 1555 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,840 Speaker 1: being making choices, you know, you can't replace that because 1556 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:24,360 Speaker 1: you think about it, like when Spotify first came out 1557 01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,479 Speaker 1: and it was like all the music in the world available, 1558 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people will send up in caviar or 1559 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,920 Speaker 1: something like that before that, because what I was getting 1560 01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,160 Speaker 1: at is they had to start doing playlists to recommend 1561 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,800 Speaker 1: certain records two people. Because at first when you had 1562 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:43,360 Speaker 1: that things originally made by DJs, or that the Spotify 1563 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: like playlists come from like the iPods era when iTunes. 1564 01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 1: And the last thing is when all the music in 1565 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,920 Speaker 1: the world is like you go to Spotify. Now you 1566 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,759 Speaker 1: can go to a playlist. Yes, you go to title, 1567 01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,800 Speaker 1: go to the place's curated by certain individuals, But was 1568 01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,160 Speaker 1: that I'm literally like a DJ set. That's when the 1569 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 1: playlist is. Yeah, I think it's a way it's it's 1570 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 1: sort of it's it's it's a DJ similar to my DJ. Yeah, 1571 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,080 Speaker 1: because part of DJing is not just the song as 1572 01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:15,120 Speaker 1: you play, is the energy that you bring. The crazy 1573 01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 1: thing with certain DJs is you could be out hearing 1574 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,880 Speaker 1: a DJ said someone played one record and you'll be like, man, 1575 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,600 Speaker 1: this is dope. What is that? You find out what 1576 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:24,760 Speaker 1: the record is, you go back home, listen to it, 1577 01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,960 Speaker 1: and it doesn't hit you the same way because certain 1578 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:28,720 Speaker 1: DJ is the way they bring the record, in the 1579 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:31,439 Speaker 1: way they read the orgy. Yeah, and just there's something 1580 01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,840 Speaker 1: about that energy control. It's like you know magicians, where 1581 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 1: the record by itself isn't the same thing. So playlist 1582 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,679 Speaker 1: doesn't have the flow and the energy of a DJ set. Yeah. 1583 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 1: So I just realized I'm surrounded by DJ M gonna 1584 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,720 Speaker 1: do a crazy show for DJ but yeah, I mean, 1585 01:29:55,800 --> 01:30:02,559 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I'm loving the because as an artist, uh, 1586 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:07,200 Speaker 1: I've never done a show without a DJ um and 1587 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,439 Speaker 1: I know that that controls the thing, so it is 1588 01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,519 Speaker 1: in case anybody's ever you know, we know that you 1589 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,479 Speaker 1: guys run the show. We know that you guys were 1590 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 1: in the world, and we appreciate that. You know, from 1591 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,320 Speaker 1: every artist in the world to you know, every fucking 1592 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 1: fans and everybody who has a hair who listens to 1593 01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:28,800 Speaker 1: great music, we want to say thank you. You know 1594 01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 1: that DJs were in the world, and also big up 1595 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,200 Speaker 1: to DJ Enough and DJ Commiller was supposed to stop by, 1596 01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,000 Speaker 1: and that would have been dope to have all your 1597 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,880 Speaker 1: DJ and thereuld have been not been enough records. So 1598 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,559 Speaker 1: so let me just ask you something before we get 1599 01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 1: about here, the transition from vinyl to fully digital. Is 1600 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,880 Speaker 1: it a good thing? Because the one thing I will 1601 01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 1: tell you was paying your dues is a DJ kind 1602 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,920 Speaker 1: of felt like carrying rates? Where would it can we 1603 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 1: replace Carrie and creates for a book bag with your 1604 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 1: laptop rating it? Because I always felt like that was 1605 01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,599 Speaker 1: paying your dudes. Is a DJ like like like actually, 1606 01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:17,519 Speaker 1: you know, me being from New York City and me 1607 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,200 Speaker 1: being like, you know, going to the tunnel, that would 1608 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:22,200 Speaker 1: be my thing. I would try to get there earlier 1609 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,360 Speaker 1: to see a DJ come out there with their crates 1610 01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,040 Speaker 1: and be like, you know, forgetting them where their gloves 1611 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,439 Speaker 1: and be freezing. I'll be looking like that's a good 1612 01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 1: ole DJ, right, you know what I'm saying. But now 1613 01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:36,720 Speaker 1: these guys they don't freeze at all, you know. But 1614 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:40,800 Speaker 1: but um, what is what is the transition from you know, 1615 01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:45,920 Speaker 1: like seriously, from crates to is it a plus? Or 1616 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,800 Speaker 1: is it? It? Is? It? It was a huge change, 1617 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 1: by the way, because like you know, it's almost people 1618 01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:58,720 Speaker 1: forget that before the digital was even an option. When 1619 01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:00,400 Speaker 1: you made a record and you want to to play it, 1620 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,400 Speaker 1: you have to go get a dub plate press to 1621 01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:06,000 Speaker 1: get an act press, or if you uh, you know, 1622 01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,439 Speaker 1: if the airline lost your luggage, you couldn't play that 1623 01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,080 Speaker 1: night off. I don't miss any of the final stuff. 1624 01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,120 Speaker 1: It's funny because world stress TJ. So people come up 1625 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,920 Speaker 1: to us and it's like, yeah, final. I'm like, oh, 1626 01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:18,240 Speaker 1: it's final, really breaking my back having airlines losten. I 1627 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:20,519 Speaker 1: don't miss any of that. So if you lose your computer, 1628 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,000 Speaker 1: just mean they're gonna lose your computer. It's you back. 1629 01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:29,080 Speaker 1: But you would check in multiple crates in the that 1630 01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,080 Speaker 1: was that's a nightmare. You don't hold your breath every 1631 01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:34,360 Speaker 1: time the luggage coming. Yeah, because it's kind of like 1632 01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,080 Speaker 1: there's one, there's another. I got to London one time 1633 01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,760 Speaker 1: and the tops of my crates came the tops of 1634 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,080 Speaker 1: my boxes just because there was a bunch of DJs 1635 01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,719 Speaker 1: that worked in the airport. And then you, oh, London 1636 01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 1: was gangster back in the day, coming and you're just 1637 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:50,840 Speaker 1: would come and it would be the tops, and you'll 1638 01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,160 Speaker 1: be waiting for the bottoms because first of all, you 1639 01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 1: don't if the bottoms, if the tops, and you know, 1640 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,320 Speaker 1: on the records all over the players, and it would 1641 01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:00,040 Speaker 1: never come because someone would take that off, put a 1642 01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:03,599 Speaker 1: top on and there was somebody rocking in London. Wow, 1643 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,360 Speaker 1: So the record we're saying, this is great, this is great. 1644 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:12,080 Speaker 1: The whole the digital thing makes every song available to you. 1645 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: And I think that's really cool too, because that ended 1646 01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,080 Speaker 1: up helping break down some of the barriers between genres 1647 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,720 Speaker 1: and everything. It just it helped music involved. In the 1648 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 1: last ten years, DJ's really played a big role in 1649 01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,599 Speaker 1: in steering the direction of music in general. A lot 1650 01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:29,599 Speaker 1: of artists started going to dj C being like, yeah, 1651 01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:32,560 Speaker 1: what's the next sound? And I think that digital transition 1652 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,800 Speaker 1: helped in that because it brought everything together. And at 1653 01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:38,439 Speaker 1: the end of the day, even if it's kind of 1654 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,639 Speaker 1: wild to think that every DJ that plays on every stage, 1655 01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:44,360 Speaker 1: every club has access to all the same records, but 1656 01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,559 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool because then it puts the force 1657 01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,759 Speaker 1: bag like it's it's each DJ's own taste and style. 1658 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:54,400 Speaker 1: They'll make a difference whether they're good or not. Like 1659 01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:56,439 Speaker 1: that we all have access to the same records, we 1660 01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,240 Speaker 1: have the same I was like, you know, we have 1661 01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,640 Speaker 1: a backyard. I did, but I have a party. You 1662 01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,640 Speaker 1: guys all have the same records, but it would be 1663 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 1: all three different energies, completely completely different. Yeah, that that's awesome. 1664 01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 1: That's do you guys get mad? Like when you hear 1665 01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: artists that sounded the same. They're DJs that do the 1666 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 1: same thing as another DJ. Oh yeah, absolutely damn you 1667 01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:26,920 Speaker 1: got you got designers and like those you know what 1668 01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 1: I'm saying, but got that. But you know what again? 1669 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,320 Speaker 1: Once again, man, thank you for hanging out. Jazzy jeff Man, 1670 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:44,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to self to I was talking about the 1671 01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:47,640 Speaker 1: whole transition in and the fresh princhion belt an um. 1672 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,800 Speaker 1: I have to salute you for the transition into a 1673 01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,640 Speaker 1: different arena. I think that it is very important to 1674 01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 1: kind of show the hip hop generation, and especially because 1675 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,759 Speaker 1: you know, we still we have some legendary stubborn brothers 1676 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,720 Speaker 1: doing the one thing that there are a lot of 1677 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:09,000 Speaker 1: people that are talented and more than just what anybody know, 1678 01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,920 Speaker 1: knowing for what, and you're never too old to take 1679 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,720 Speaker 1: that jump into something else. So trust me. Like for 1680 01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:20,560 Speaker 1: me to be sitting on here talking to you in 1681 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,960 Speaker 1: a completely different light than when I know you from 1682 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:32,360 Speaker 1: the game, it's that that's the I can't believe that 1683 01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,439 Speaker 1: all the time. Is that's who I took it from. 1684 01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,439 Speaker 1: It's like seeing your brothers take those opportunities to take 1685 01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,639 Speaker 1: those chances, like you the ol owls to create my teeth. 1686 01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 1: But it was just like you know um, and I 1687 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:45,080 Speaker 1: was like, yo, you know what, if I can do 1688 01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:49,120 Speaker 1: it on my way, then then then why not you 1689 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:50,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like why not? Like I love 1690 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,000 Speaker 1: to I love to talk hip hop. I think a 1691 01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,760 Speaker 1: hip hop we this should be our first take we 1692 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:59,600 Speaker 1: should have. I believe I get out of here, but 1693 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,200 Speaker 1: I believe that you shouldn't go to no other place 1694 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,760 Speaker 1: for anything in life, Meaning if you want to go 1695 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,240 Speaker 1: to a yelp. I'm making the hip hop you up 1696 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,280 Speaker 1: right now right, So I'm making the ship that nor 1697 01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,519 Speaker 1: Re recommends where I want the fun you eat. And 1698 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you look, if you want to get shot, 1699 01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:19,280 Speaker 1: this is where they go. They got the best friend 1700 01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,680 Speaker 1: chicken though in the world, it might be worth it, 1701 01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. If you want to go, 1702 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,760 Speaker 1: you wanna get some fried oreoles over, yeah, I got 1703 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,040 Speaker 1: like I'm not giving people like And if you want 1704 01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,720 Speaker 1: to go to the news, I believe that you go 1705 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,519 Speaker 1: to the news. I believe Jim Jones should be the 1706 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:38,920 Speaker 1: weather forecaster. I believe, you know, I believe it's Jim Jones. 1707 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,720 Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. I believe if you want to 1708 01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,280 Speaker 1: go sneakers shopping, I believe it's Fat Joe should be 1709 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,400 Speaker 1: guiding you through your sneakers and saying, listen, this is 1710 01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,760 Speaker 1: like I believe you should get every bit of information 1711 01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:52,000 Speaker 1: that we have in hip hop through hip hop. You 1712 01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:53,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Through hip hop, I don't believe. 1713 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:56,400 Speaker 1: I believe everything should come from us. And because I 1714 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,679 Speaker 1: don't believe hip hop is even a color, I believe 1715 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 1: hip pop is as his own race. We all race. 1716 01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:05,479 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like you, what are you? 1717 01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:10,719 Speaker 1: I'm hip hop kid, but staff exactly what it because 1718 01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,320 Speaker 1: it's our bonn our bonn like, like it doesn't matter 1719 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,080 Speaker 1: what color a person is easy hip hop. If you 1720 01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,519 Speaker 1: hip hop to me, I funk with you, like I 1721 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,120 Speaker 1: don't give a funk where your background coming from. And 1722 01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 1: that's it's hip hop is a language, is it's it's uh, 1723 01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,560 Speaker 1: it's it's two things at the universal it's food and 1724 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,240 Speaker 1: motherfucking music. Like no matter where you go. I remember 1725 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,560 Speaker 1: I was at some airport and these people are just 1726 01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:36,800 Speaker 1: playing music and you're just seeing people just walking by. 1727 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:39,240 Speaker 1: Everybody had a little box to them. I'm saying, this 1728 01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:43,280 Speaker 1: ship everybody, even the ones off beat ship. This guy's okay, 1729 01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:47,120 Speaker 1: he's anybody love music, so anybody doesn't. It looks like food. 1730 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:49,080 Speaker 1: And I think we gotta keep spreading this. But I 1731 01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:51,120 Speaker 1: think we gotta keep spreading love. We gotta keep continue 1732 01:37:51,439 --> 01:37:54,120 Speaker 1: to you know, to I love that these two you 1733 01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,760 Speaker 1: know dj these hot DJs, they came and they paid 1734 01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 1: comments immediately, and that's beautiful. But we need more of that. 1735 01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:04,040 Speaker 1: We need more of people of our legends continue to 1736 01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,040 Speaker 1: feel like legends and continue to be out there and 1737 01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,040 Speaker 1: making money, continue to be out there and making our 1738 01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,240 Speaker 1: culture look good. Because if we ain't gonna bag each 1739 01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,000 Speaker 1: other up, ain't nobody gonna big us up. Bro. And 1740 01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,000 Speaker 1: guess what, we need a little bit of big enough. 1741 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:17,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes you need that pattern of your shoulder. I ain't 1742 01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:19,800 Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. That's why, you know, that's why 1743 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,200 Speaker 1: marathon runners to be having them people on the side 1744 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:24,920 Speaker 1: like yo, mother, you can get me going right, Yeah 1745 01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:34,960 Speaker 1: that's twenty six. I can't. I can't thank you man. 1746 01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,560 Speaker 1: Thank you think it if you'll get drops, thank you, 1747 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:43,000 Speaker 1: thank you? Yes, yes, you know. I like to picture