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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 2: Joined by the new member of the Patriots Hall Fame,

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Speaker 2: Mike Rainbow.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight.

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Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian

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Speaker 2: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number

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Speaker 2: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 1: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. Search

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Speaker 4: Christian kind of the same old story, if you guys again,

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Speaker 4: how frustrating a day was today? Disappointing a day was today?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it hurts. I mean we put in so much work.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's it's obviously not enough. So I mean,

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Speaker 5: Herdson the same thing I've said every week. I mean,

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Speaker 5: we just got to get back to busting and get

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Speaker 5: to work again.

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Speaker 2: From an individual share point, people always se control you

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Speaker 2: can control. Colin felt like that was your best game

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Speaker 2: of the year.

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Speaker 1: It felt like you.

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Speaker 4: Do.

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Speaker 5: I feel like that was my best game. I mean

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Speaker 5: I ain't really worried about it. I mean I try.

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Speaker 5: I want to win, so I mean whatever the personal

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Speaker 5: stats are, it is, it is what it is, but

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Speaker 5: I want to win.

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Speaker 4: So you surprised they kept throwing to Arrison in your

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Speaker 4: match up against him?

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Speaker 5: See when Yeah, no, I'm not surprised. I mean he's

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Speaker 5: a great receiver. I mean that's that's their guys. So

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Speaker 5: they're gonna go to him. And I told him after

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Speaker 5: the game, you know he's he's the truth. Uh he

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Speaker 5: got he got, he got all the tools to to

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Speaker 5: be real good. So it was it was a fun matchup.

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Speaker 5: I have fun and maybe see each other again.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel when you're challenged in the rest

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Speaker 4: of my dad?

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Speaker 5: I mean I invited. I mean I you know, that's

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Speaker 5: that's what That's what it is. As a corner, you know,

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Speaker 5: you you you want them to throw your way. You know,

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Speaker 5: you want you want to be able to make plays

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Speaker 5: for the team, so when they throw it, you know,

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Speaker 5: try to make the players that come your way.

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Speaker 4: If all that's going on, you know, you're you're an

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Speaker 4: outbeat guy every week. How much does it wear on you? Though?

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Speaker 1: The fact that you guys are just you know, coming up.

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Speaker 5: Sure, ye, I mean it hurts, but I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: we just we just gotta work. I mean, it is

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Speaker 5: what it is, and you know, there's there's just there's

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Speaker 5: nothing more that we can do that than then work.

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Speaker 5: I mean, nobody, nobody really cares. We just gotta work harder.

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Speaker 5: So get back in the building and correct this game

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Speaker 5: and get ready for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Want to play. Looks like you gotted football out pretty

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Speaker 2: Just can you take me through that play? And what

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Speaker 2: are your technique is there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? It was a I think he ran like a

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Speaker 5: look back to you're in you're in phase, and uh,

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Speaker 5: I didn't get back in phase. And at that point,

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Speaker 5: you just played through the hands. You play through the pocket,

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Speaker 5: punch through the ball and uh you know they may

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Speaker 2: How much coach helps you to get a great position.

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Speaker 2: There are times you look back for the ball and

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Speaker 2: an island and your flag for it. But how much

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Speaker 2: you feel bad today just looking back for that ball?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, Mike. Mike does a great job of

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Speaker 3: Money The same question for you guys on offense, How

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Speaker 6: Yeah, frustrating?

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Speaker 4: Is that early on, especially with this.

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Speaker 6: we're going to you know, practice ironing and things out,

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Speaker 6: but you know, obviously we aren't. So I guess you

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Speaker 2: Pretty good pass protection today, like you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you to.

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Speaker 2: Been working on that this year.

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Speaker 6: I've been working on it a lot. Uh And you

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Speaker 6: And I think it's uh, you know, showing on tape

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Speaker 4: Those are some of the things you've been trying to

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Speaker 1: You know, the records, the record, but I.

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Speaker 4: Should play these last three games even just.

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Speaker 6: A little thing, oh yeah, oh yeah, of course. Uh,

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Speaker 6: just sharpening everything up. You're never going to see me,

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Speaker 6: out there and give it one hundred percent. So y'all

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Speaker 4: And how impol is that to show the rookies, show

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's huge. I think it's huge just in football

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Speaker 2: Antonio Rumsway did this last year, So how much does

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Speaker 6: Uh, it's good, you know. Yeah, he'd been running that

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Speaker 4: Last question for me is how good do you think

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Speaker 4: when everything's going for you guys finally get it? How

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think we could be very dangerous, but

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Speaker 6: So I think, yeah, if we were consistent and we

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm, I feel like you can run the ball

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Speaker 2: more you get nine we're running for I'm not big critical. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're the type of guy calling games for a couple

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Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, I think that's that dates back to

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Speaker 6: and things like that. Just like you said, nothing against

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Speaker 6: I just get stronger as a game go as Mark

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Speaker 6: carries out get I think, yeah, exactly. Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 4: Just talk to how frustrating you said as an offense

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Speaker 4: to move the ball, especially early and then holding penalty

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Speaker 4: and then the second series. You know, it's a sack

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Speaker 4: things that keep giving you like stops you guys doing

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Speaker 7: Uh, it's just like a repeat thing, you know, every

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Speaker 7: And uh, I feel like that's what's been hurting us,

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Speaker 7: you know this whole year. You know, we'll have a

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Speaker 7: good drive and then we have something to take it back.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you're you're the veteran receiver of the group.

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Speaker 2: I mean, get KB back. He's coming off the injury.

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Speaker 2: They used to be catch today. But how much you

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Speaker 2: the last three weeks of the year, Buffalo and Drummers

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Speaker 7: Uh, for me, I say, you know, you know, stay

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: Uh, you know they haven't been seeing the field as much,

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Speaker 7: give them that that confidence. And whenever, when anybody on

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Speaker 7: to just give them that confidence. Right in fact, yes, Sir.

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Speaker 4: Cried the touchdown pass with Drake after left.

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Speaker 7: Uh, Drake a ball player that was that was a player.

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Speaker 7: I thought he was gonna keep running and then uh,

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Speaker 7: he just I just moved into the spot and I

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Speaker 3: Onmes made that that brought me, bro, Were you ready for.

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Speaker 4: It or was it like, you know, kind of one

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Speaker 4: of those things Okay, here it comes, here it comes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I just you know, when I moved into the space,

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Speaker 7: I ain't know if he seen me or not. So man,

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Speaker 7: when I seen the ball and then I'm like, okay

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Speaker 7: this and then I I was I was ready for

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Speaker 2: A boss question. You know, when plays break down and

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Speaker 2: he starts to break it. Tain Huns talked about this

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Speaker 2: staying alive because.

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Speaker 7: You never know when the ball might be coming, right,

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Speaker 2: That will be breakfast one and more you start to

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Speaker 7: With him after Yeah, well yeah, with Drake, you know,

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Speaker 7: you never know he can run it or he could,

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Speaker 7: you know, So I mean when he when he uh

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Speaker 7: sprints out, I mean, the defense have to respect it

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Speaker 7: because he can use his feet too, so uh for

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Speaker 7: us to receive us, either we see an open space

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Speaker 7: and get open and he finds us, or we blocked.

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Speaker 4: Those are things to keep you going though, Like it

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Speaker 4: seems like it might be easy to get frustrated with

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Speaker 4: the three and eleven record, but then drink things play

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Speaker 4: like that you guys get an un touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, I just you know, I could see you know,

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Speaker 7: you know, I mean this year not over. But man,

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Speaker 7: we rebuild, it's gonna be good. Ye, thank you, thank you.

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