1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Hello Sunshine, Hey fam. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: Today on the bright Side, chef and TikTok star Joanne 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Mulinaro talks about her pivot from corporate lawyer to food influencer, 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: why she weaves family stories into her recipes, and how 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: she's veganizing Korean food. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 3: One dish out of. 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 4: Time, whether it's a dish that I make, a recipe, 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 4: I develop a little short story that I append. There's 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 4: this wonderful idea called smut, which literally means seasoning of 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 4: the hand in Korean. She means everything that touches me. 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 4: You're getting a little bit of me in that, and 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 4: how beautiful that is. 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, April thirtieth. 14 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: I'm Simone Boye, I'm Danielle Robe and this is the 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: bright Side from Hello Sunshine. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: Danielle. How's your week going. 17 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm having a slow start because i was up way 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: too late watching Sex and the City, and I'm now 19 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: on season six because it's on Netflix now and I've 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: been binging and I have rewatched this series I think 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: six seven times over. I never get sick of it. 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: Wow, you're a connoisseur of Sex and the City at 23 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: this point. 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Truly, I just feel so seen by that show. 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: What is it for you that makes you feel seen 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: about it? 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: At every point in my life that I watch, I 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: get different things from the characters, from the storylines, and 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: I just think they did such a great job talking 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: about dating in your thirties. 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: I didn't watch the show. Are there any points of 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: wisdom that are really sticking with you or takeaways? 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 3: Oh? 34 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: Girl, six seasons and two movies, and I can't just 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: pick one you have to watch. 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 3: I don't have that kind of time. Unfortunately, I wish 37 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: I did. 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: Well, you did have time to watch a movie. You 39 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: came in here talking about this film that you love. 40 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I saw Challengers one on a date night. It 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: was a perfect date night film. It's really really fun. 42 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: This is Zendaya's new movie, and I'm just like, I 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: don't know her, but I'm so happy for her because 44 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: it did really well at the box office this weekend, 45 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars. And I think that's so cool because 46 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: she wasn't just an actor in it, she was also 47 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: a producer. So this is just a huge win for 48 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: female producers and also talent who become producers to take 49 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: an ownership. 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Why do you like it so much? You know? 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: It's part sports movie, part steamy romance film. I really 52 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: love the director, Luca Guadanino. He did call Me by 53 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: your Name, and he really has this knack for bringing 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: out these erotic scenes and queer themes with his actors 55 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: and in his films. 56 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: The whole internet went crazy over that scene. There's a threesome. 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: Apparently, Yes, there is a threesome scene, and it's pretty juicy, 58 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: pretty steamy. They all had to get intimacy coordinators and 59 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 2: work with them for that, but. 60 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: She said it wasn't steamy filming it. 61 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think because they spent so much time and 62 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: were really intentional about getting to know each other and 63 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: bond off screen, so that way they felt comfortable doing. 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: That, because that is a lot. 65 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean. The best part is so and I see 66 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: her talk about how her family reacted to it, because 67 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: she was like, they've seen the movie so many times 68 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: at this point, yeah, and they're sort of unfazed. But 69 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: you know, she's twenty seven years old. I'm thirty three. 70 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't even like when my mom listens to the 71 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: podcast because I'm like, you don't need to know everything. 72 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: Mom, same, I can't even imagine taking my parents to 73 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: go see a film like Challenger, so I can't imagine 74 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: being in it and then watching it with them. 75 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: That would be crazy. 76 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: But I also really love this character that she played, 77 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: Tashi Duncan, because to be honest, this character is just 78 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: really ruthless and selfish, and we don't always get to 79 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: see black women portraying those characters. We love an unlikable woman, right, Yes, 80 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: I don't even know if the term. I don't even 81 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: know if an unlikable character exists. I think they're just 82 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: complex women. But we we love that. 83 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know so. I mean, anybody can be unlikable 84 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: man or woman. 85 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: I think so. 86 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: But then I start thinking, well, this is just a 87 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: character that exists in the gray area, and they're just 88 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: like really human, you know. 89 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 90 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: Serena Williams wrote a review of this movie in Vogue, 91 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: and she straight up agreed, like this character is just mean. 92 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: Serena Williams didn't hold anything back. First of all, she 93 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: said that she was really impressed by how they played tennis. 94 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to know if it was real 95 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: or not. 96 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was real. 97 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: She said that they were so good that they probably 98 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 2: could have gone on tour if they started earlier. Wow, 99 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: but she said she hated the ending. She wanted more. 100 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: The film left her wanting more. 101 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: I love seeing Olive Zindiya's tennis inspired outfit. Oh my 102 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: furthest tour like she's killing it. The fashion on this 103 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: Prush tour incredible, incredible, And I'm also hoping. I loved 104 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: Queen's Gambit, which was obviously about this amazing woman playing chess, 105 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of hoping that Challengers does the same 106 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: thing with tennis. I think Dick's Sporting Goods is going 107 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: to see a quick rise in tennis racket and tennis 108 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: ball sales. 109 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: I want to play tennis now after watching this viel. 110 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it does. 111 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to play chess after Queen's Gambit. 112 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: How's that going for you? Not well? 113 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: I played my dad a few times and gave up. 114 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: I feel like it's something you need to learn when 115 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: you're young, or. 116 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: Something I really want to work on tennis and golf 117 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: over the next four years. I want to get into 118 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: my country club era. 119 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: Good luck with that. 120 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it. Just watch. 121 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: My parents always told me that those are the two 122 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: sports you have to learn how to play because you 123 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: can play them throughout your whole life. 124 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: And they're great for business too, because everything for me 125 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: just comes back to see dollars. 126 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: You see money and you can go get it. You 127 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: see the money, you make the money, you take the money. 128 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: There you go. 129 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: Okay, we have to celebrate some good news because Gabby 130 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: Douglas is back. If you remember, she's the decorated gymnast. 131 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: She competed in one gold in twenty twelve and twenty sixteen. 132 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: I'd venture to say that she's inspired the generation of 133 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: gymnasts that we're seeing on the floor today. But she 134 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: hasn't competed since then, and now at twenty eight, she's 135 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: getting back into it and she's trying to qualify for 136 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: this summer's games in Paris, which are less than three 137 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:49,679 Speaker 1: months away. 138 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: This is really interesting. We never see athletes do this, 139 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: try to make a comeback in this way. 140 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: Well, I read that she never quite said that she retired, 141 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: and she did that on purpose because she never wanted 142 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: to quit on a bad day and she sort of 143 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: had a tough ending in that last season of her career. 144 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: She's pulling a Michael Jordan. 145 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: In my opinion, I cannot wait to watch. 146 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: I love that she's twenty eight too, because in the 147 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: last Olympics the average age of a gymnast was twenty one, 148 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: and even that was older than it had been in 149 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: the past. Like Olympic gymnasts are known to be teenagers 150 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: literally honest, literal teenagers. Yeah, so this is pretty amazing. 151 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: I try and live by the phrase that trying is winning, 152 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: and I see her trying. She's out there trying. Yes, 153 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: girl doing her backflips and trying. 154 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: Her trying is my winning. Yes, I mean did I 155 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: say that right? 156 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: Yes? 157 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: Her trying anything is like way more than I could 158 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: ever do. 159 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 1: So Okay, before we really get into our show today, 160 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: we need to discuss eyebrows. 161 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 3: Oh, let's discuss what's up with eyebrows. 162 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: I saw this article about the golden ratio for eyebrows, 163 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: and anytime I see eyebrow trends, I am triggered. Because 164 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say I'm triggered, I WinCE. My mother was 165 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: traumatized from the eighties with the plucking of the thin eyebrows, 166 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: so she would never let me touch my eyebrows growing up. 167 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: Do you ever touch yours? 168 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: I really don't do anything to them now I did 169 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: way too much when I was younger. 170 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: What'd you do? You wax, tweetze, threaded? 171 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly all of the above. But then I just 172 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: realized I needed more, not less. So now I'm all 173 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: about adding instead of subtracting. So now I pencil them in. 174 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: So have you heard of Anastasia of Beverly Hills. Of course, 175 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: she's like the eyebrow Queen right first. Yeah, like she 176 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: gets it. She came up with this golden ratio thing. 177 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: And what I like is that it's for whatever eyebrows 178 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: you have, thin, thick, bushy, not whatever. It's all about 179 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: finding balance and symmetry on your individual face. And I 180 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: feel like there's so many trends with women, and I 181 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: hear this line. My body is not a trend. My 182 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: eyebrows are not a trend. Okay, it flip flops every generation. 183 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: I just want my eyebrows to be my eyebrows. Tell 184 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: us how you really feel, Danielle, Yeah, I'm fired up 185 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: over this. Okay, So do you do anything to your eyebrows? No, 186 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: my mom won't let me. Still I'm there. 187 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: Do you have to fill them in at all? Or 188 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: do you do gel or what's your routine? 189 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 4: Like? 190 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: Have two quick things. I use the Jones Road dark 191 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: brown pencil, and then I use the Anastasio browgel. 192 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: Nice. So what is the golden ratio of eyebrows? Though? 193 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: It's basically math for your face, but it's not so complicated. 194 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: You draw an upside down triangle from your eyes to 195 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: the tip of your nose, and it's designed to find 196 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: balance and symmetry on your face. 197 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense because I noticed that 198 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: whenever my eyebrows are off, whenever the ratio is off, 199 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: if one side is like smaller, or if I didn't 200 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: fill them in enough. 201 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 3: My whole face looks different. 202 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:48,479 Speaker 4: Yeah. 203 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: Can you imagine if I came in tomorrow with just 204 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: bleached eyebrows. I really want to try it. 205 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Julia Fox did that. It was kind of a vibe. 206 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could do it. Maybe I will. 207 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: I really want to try microblating, took How of scared are. 208 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: You hopping on all these trends micro blady fighting? 209 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: Micro blading is something that's going to make my life easier. 210 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: That's why I want to do it, because then I 211 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: don't have to wake up and do the filling in 212 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: of my brows. 213 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: After the break, we're taking a seat at the table 214 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: with Joanne Molinaro, and we're learning how she veganizes Korean 215 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: food and koreanizes everything else. 216 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 3: Stay with us. 217 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: You may know our next guest as the Korean Vegan. 218 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: Joanne Lee Mullin. Arrow's cooking videos took off on TikTok 219 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: during the pandemic and now with millions of followers Anna 220 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: James Beard Award, She's making her mark through her recipes 221 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: and her stories. 222 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: I have such a girl crush on this woman. She 223 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: captured our hearts and appetites after she made the jump 224 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: from trial lawyer to food blogger, and her blend of cooking, 225 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: heritage and the inspiration is exactly what drew us to 226 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: her here on the bright Side. 227 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: Jo Anne, Welcome to the bright Side. Hey guys, I'm 228 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: so excited to be here. 229 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: We're so happy to have you here, Joanne mull and Arrow, 230 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: the Korean Vegan. Before we jump into today's conversation, we 231 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: have to wish you a happy birthday. Yes, you just 232 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: turned forty five and you celebrated with some special cake. 233 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 4: Yes, I made a sponge cake, a vegan sponge cake 234 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: that I was really proud of. It was less proud 235 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: of the final product. Because vegan whip cream still has 236 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: a little bit of a learning curve. It looked so 237 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: good on Instagram, though, girl, okay good because it tasted amazing. 238 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: I could not stop you. 239 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: It looked really good. 240 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to get that recipe because I'm a 241 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 2: dairy free gurly, so finding cakes for us it's hard, Joyanne. 242 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: Before you published your best selling cookbook, The Korean Vegan, 243 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: before how you blew up on social media, you were 244 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: a partner at a law firm and you were eating 245 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: meat at one time. So can you walk us through 246 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: those transitions which came first. There're two big transitions. Definitely, 247 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: the elimination of meat from my diet came first. That 248 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: happened in twenty sixteen. 249 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 4: I was a young partner at that time at the 250 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: law firm, and my then boyfriend now husband, he wanted 251 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 4: to go vegan and it took a lot of arm twisting, 252 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 4: but eventually I joined him and got rid of meat 253 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,359 Speaker 4: and all other animal products from my diet. 254 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that has always stuck 255 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: out to me about your work is that it feels 256 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: like you are a chef and you cook, but that's 257 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: not really what your platform is about. You're a storyteller 258 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: to me, and you kind of walk us through a 259 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: recipe as you teach us something or tell us something 260 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: about what's on your heart. How did that begin? 261 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I've always enjoyed writing. That's been sort of 262 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: my creative outlet. It's either music or writing, So I 263 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: really leaned into the writing aspect kind of like midway 264 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 4: through my legal career. When I went plant based in 265 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, I added cooking as a necessity. There wasn't 266 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 4: really any Korean vegan food that I could purchase, so 267 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: I needed to make it myself. And what I wanted 268 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: to do was marry those two creative outlets in some way. 269 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: So I started sharing my very like short short stories 270 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 4: and the captions of my Instagram posts in twenty seventeen, 271 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: and when I started sharing videos in twenty twenty on TikTok, 272 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: I literally just read out loud my Instagram caption. And 273 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 4: I think people enjoy kind of watching the preparation of 274 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: food and then listening to something that might not have 275 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: anything to do with that food, but was, you know, 276 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: similarly captivating. 277 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: A lot of people might be surprised to learn how 278 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: hands on you are during the content creation process. I mean, you're. 279 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 2: Shooting, you're writing, you're editing a lot of the time. 280 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: That's a lot of work, and you still show up 281 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: every day and you pour your heart and soul into 282 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: this content that you make. 283 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: What's your why? That's a really good question, and I 284 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 4: think it's an important question for any entrepreneur, any artist, 285 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: any content creator to continuously ask themselves, because if you 286 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 4: don't do that, it can get a little depressing and 287 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 4: a little demoralizing. And I think there are two things, 288 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: one of which was harder for me to grapple with. 289 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 4: I think the reason I started sharing stories is because 290 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: I felt that the immigrant story in the United States 291 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: was not being adequately and fairly represented. And I felt 292 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 4: that a lot of people in America didn't really know 293 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: what it was like to grow up in an immigrant family, 294 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: and particularly in an Asian immigrant family. And I really 295 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 4: wanted to unveil that for people in a non threatening way. 296 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: And there's like, really nothing less threatening than here's a 297 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:11,599 Speaker 4: bowl of food, Come sit at my dinner table, and 298 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: let's have a chat, and I'll tell you a little story. 299 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: And what I really wanted to get. 300 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: Across to people was things may look a little different, 301 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: and they may smell a little different, they may sound 302 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: a little different, but there's actually a lot more in 303 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: common between us than you might realize, and that was 304 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 4: really important to me. I also think part of that, 305 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: and wrapped into that, was again this idea of allowing 306 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: a group of people who had historically felt unseen to 307 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: feel seen, and that of course is my parents, my 308 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 4: mom and my dad, that generation of immigrants. I wanted 309 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 4: them to feel very powerfully seen in a compassionate and 310 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: empowering way. I also wanted to feel seen, and I 311 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: think that there's a little bit of shame for some 312 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 4: people admitting that. Oh so I have a need to 313 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: feel seen. I have a need to feel heard, and 314 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 4: I want to do it in this way. And I 315 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: think that this was a way for me to explore 316 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: my creativity, explore a side to me that was otherwise 317 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: going untapped at work, you know, as a lawyer, and 318 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: do it in a way that was fun, exciting and inspiring. 319 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,359 Speaker 2: Joanne, there's this quote that stuck with me from your website. 320 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: You say, I veganize Korean food, I koreanize everything else. 321 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: What do you mean by that? 322 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: The first part is pretty straightforward, right. I started the 323 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: Korean vegan because when I went vegan, there was nothing 324 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: out there for me, and I was like, well, I'm 325 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: not giving up my kimchi and my kyabees and all 326 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 4: my favorite Korean foods just because I made this change 327 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: to my diet. I just have to figure it out. 328 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: And so that was the first part of the quote, 329 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 4: which is, Okay, I'm going to viganize all my Korean 330 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 4: favorite foods. The second part was a little bit more glib, right, like, okay, 331 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: and I'm just going to creanize it everything else. And 332 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: at first it was really a reference to the fact 333 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 4: that anytime I made something that wasn't overtly a Korean dish, 334 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,359 Speaker 4: I would end up figuring out a way to incorporate 335 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: soy sauce or tinjung or quo jujung or some of 336 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: the very popular Korean ingredients that I was really learning 337 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 4: a lot about at that time. I always felt like, Okay, well, 338 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: I just think that this marinera would taste a little 339 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: better with cujajong. I think that this risotto would taste 340 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: a little better with tinjong. Just a little bit doesn't 341 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 4: need to be a lot. So I think That's what 342 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 4: I meant at first, but then I think later on, 343 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: especially once the Korean vegan became much more about storytelling, 344 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: it was also just how I put so much of 345 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: myself into my content and into my recipes, Like you're 346 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: getting a heavy dose of Joanne with everything, whether it's 347 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: a dish that I make, a recipe, I develop a 348 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: little short story that I appenned to whatever it is 349 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: I'm making, you get my voice, sometimes you get my face. 350 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 4: And of course there's this, you know, wonderful idea called 351 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: son mut which literally means taste of the hand or 352 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 4: seasoning of the hand in Korean, which means everything that 353 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: touches me, everything that goes through my hands. You're getting 354 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: a little bit of me in that, and how beautiful 355 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: that is. 356 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm not as familiar with Korean dishes. What should I 357 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: start with? 358 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: Oh God, that such a great question. Okay, So I 359 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 4: would start with the stews. And the reason I say 360 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 4: the stews, I have a whole chapter on soups and 361 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: stews in my cookbook, and number one, it's because it's 362 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 4: the easiest out of all of the recipes. So no 363 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 4: matter what level you are at in the kitchen, it 364 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: doesn't really matter. These are very very easy dishes, and 365 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 4: then thank you for that. No, it's okay, there's no 366 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 4: judgment here. I'm a home cook too. And also in 367 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: almost every Korean meal, breakfast, lunch, or dinner, you're going 368 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: to have a Korean soup or stew, so it's such 369 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: an integral part of Korean cuisine. 370 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 3: And then from. 371 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: There I would specify probably the tindunk jigue, which is 372 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 4: a fermented soybean stew. It is one of the most 373 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 4: popular recipes out of my cookbook, which was very surprising 374 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 4: and gratifying. And it's also that one dish anytime you 375 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: go to a Korean restaurant, it's going to be there, like, 376 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 4: it's almost inevitably going to show up on the table. 377 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: So it just is a great introduction to Korean cuisine 378 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 4: and it's also really easy. 379 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: It makes a ton of sense to me that a 380 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: natural next step for you was to write a cookbook. 381 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: People were dying over your recipes. What doesn't always come 382 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: with a cookbook is a James Beard Award for your 383 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: first cookbook. That is such a huge honor. How does 384 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: that come about? 385 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: I honestly don't know how it comes back I just 386 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: I remember when I was told that I was nominated. 387 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 4: I was like, well, I didn't even know that I 388 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: was up for considering, and like it's such a surprise. 389 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: I will say, like one of the most important things 390 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: when you are writing a good cookbook or you know 391 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 4: your first one, is to surround yourself with a really 392 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 4: supportive team. I literally had the best team in the world. 393 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 4: They you know, were almost all women, and they just 394 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 4: really understood how important this book was to me, to 395 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 4: my family and of course the stories behind it. So 396 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: they submitted the book for consideration by the Games Beer Foundation. 397 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: They didn't tell me, and so it was like came 398 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 4: as a huge shock. I went to the ceremony and 399 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: my parents are so cute because it was in Chicago luckily, 400 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: so you know, I told my mom and dad about it, 401 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: and I was like, you know, you don't need to come. 402 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 4: I'm never going to win, so like there's no point, 403 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 4: like just just stay home and be comfortable, and they 404 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 4: were like, no, no, of course we're going to come. 405 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 4: And I think even then I didn't realize like, like 406 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 4: the magnitude of. 407 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: This, Shoanne, this is like the oscars of food and 408 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: but here's The thing is, I really did not think 409 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: there was like any chance that I would win. 410 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: There was absolutely no scenario in my mind. I didn't 411 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: prepare a speech because I was like, well, there's no point. 412 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 4: I'm just going to go and enjoy myself and like 413 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 4: fangirl Padma Lakshmi's going to be there and I'm just 414 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 4: going to get everyone with autograph. Like That's what I 415 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 4: was thinking. So when my name was announced, it was 416 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 4: probably one of the most surreal moments of my entire life. 417 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: How did it change things for you? 418 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: I think that there are very few things in my 419 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: life that I can look back towards and say that 420 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 4: was a moment where I allowed myself to feel more confident. 421 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: I think confidence is one of the most difficult things 422 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 4: in the world to understand, earn, and retain, at least 423 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 4: especially for women. I think it's like every single moment 424 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 4: of every day, somebody's trying to drag down your confidence. 425 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 4: So it is a very hard earned thing to keep. 426 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 4: And I think when I was recognized by the Jamesuar 427 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: Foundation as well as my peers for the work that 428 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: went into that book, it was one moment that I 429 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: can say, Okay, I will accept this. I will accept 430 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: this as a sign that I deserve to be recognized 431 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 4: and that this book is actually a wonderful thing. 432 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: Joanne, the kitchen seems like a confessional for you, a church, 433 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: a sanctuary, all of those things rolled into one. How 434 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: does it shift your energy when you get into the kitchen. 435 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 2: That is a wonderful question. 436 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 5: For me. 437 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 4: I get very focused, and that's really important because I 438 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 4: have a hard time focusing. I'm very much like a multitasker. 439 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 4: I have so many things going on at the same 440 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 4: time in my head. I've got multiple fires that I'm 441 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 4: trying to put out mentally, physically, logistically. And so when 442 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 4: I get a chance to just be in the kitchen 443 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 4: and cook a special meal or cook something for dinner, 444 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 4: and I don't have to worry about anything else, I 445 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: turn on a good book, you know, I listen to 446 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 4: a lot of my books, or I turn on some 447 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 4: you know, my favorite music, and I just get to 448 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,239 Speaker 4: focus on making delicious food that I know I'm going 449 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: to really enjoy eating at the end of it. That 450 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 4: is one of the most relaxing times. It is a 451 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: time when I feel most myself and most empowered because 452 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 4: I don't have to answer to anyone other than myself, 453 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: and I really love that. 454 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: I love the way that your videos offer advice to 455 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: people on heartbreak and friendship and family and navigating life's challenges. 456 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: When you look back at your body of work, is 457 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: there a particular dish or recipe that you associate with 458 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: a life lesson that was hard to learn? 459 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: Yes, this is funny. 460 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: It's probably my duck book recipe. It's takmandukuk in the cookbook. 461 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 4: And I've talked about this a couple of times, and 462 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 4: I actually mentioned it specifically in the book. And I 463 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 4: remember when I shared this story, my editor was like, 464 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 4: I think you need to remove this story because it's 465 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: too depressing, and I was like, nope, We're keeping it 466 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 4: in because it's really important. The story is about four 467 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: months before my first wedding is New Year's and in 468 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 4: Korean culture, you eat rice cake soup for New Year's 469 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 4: and it was like something I look forward to all 470 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 4: the time. And my mom made rice cake soup and 471 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: she invited me over to her house and I showed 472 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: up and she hands me this bowl of soup and 473 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 4: my father's there, which I thought was kind of weird, 474 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 4: but you know, he was there and with the soup 475 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: is a Hallmark card, and I'm like. 476 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 3: Oh, are they giving me money for New Years? 477 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 4: Is just also Korean tradition, but one that we had 478 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 4: not partaken in many years. Right, So I opened a 479 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: Hallmark envelope and and it is a card. Basically, both 480 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 4: of my parents beg me not to walk down the 481 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 4: aisle and to call off my wedding, which was happening 482 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 4: in four months. Needless to say, that didn't end well. 483 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 4: I did not enjoy any book. I was so angry. 484 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 4: I just screamed at my parents and then I stormed 485 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 4: out of their house. And what I learned from that was, 486 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 4: you know, I remember telling my mom and my dad, 487 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 4: what's the big deal? I love this man. Isn't that 488 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 4: all that matters. That's the most important thing in any marriage, 489 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: and that's the only thing that matters. And I remember 490 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 4: my father said, Okay, yeah, you're right, you're right. But 491 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 4: my mom she did not agree. She didn't say anything. 492 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 4: She just kind of looked very sad. And many many 493 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: years later, when I got a divorce and when things 494 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 4: sort of fell apart, I learned that lesson that while 495 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 4: love is incredibly important in a marriage. It's not the 496 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: only thing that's important in a marriage. You need respect, 497 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 4: you need trust, you need partnership. There's so many other 498 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 4: things that go into a successful relationship with your life partner. 499 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: And that was a very difficult lesson for me to learn, 500 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: and I think about it every single New Year's when 501 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: I eat the boop. 502 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: Now, thank you for sharing that story with us. I 503 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: just I am constantly in awe of how open you 504 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: are and how real you are. And I hope it's 505 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: okay that I ask you about this, but you've been 506 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: really open about your relationship with food and struggling with 507 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: eating disorders, and I think that you've made so many 508 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: people feel seen through your candor on this topic, and 509 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: so I'm curious how the work that you're doing now 510 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: is allowing you to process your own relationship with food. 511 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Life has a way. 512 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: Of getting in your way, sometimes right, and sometimes it's good. 513 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 4: You learn a lot from those hurdles, You build muscles 514 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 4: from those hurdles, you learn strategies about avoiding them and 515 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 4: jumping over them and all of those things. But sometimes 516 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 4: those hurdles just suck, and it's so easy to just 517 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 4: give in and say, you know what, that hurdle is there. 518 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 4: I'm tired of jumping over them all the time. I'm 519 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: just gonna sit this out and I'm just gonna give in. 520 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: And that's really a very dangerous temptation. But the lovely 521 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: thing about the Korean Vegan is it's always there saying. 522 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 3: No, no, don't give up. You can't give up. You 523 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 3: gotta come up with another recipe, You gotta come up 524 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: with another thing. 525 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 5: No, you got a cookbook, try, you gotta eat eat food, 526 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 5: Please eat food, you know, and like it's hard to 527 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 5: not get emotional about it because of all the things 528 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 5: that I talk about, my ongoing struggle with food is probably. 529 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 4: The only thing that is a present struggle that I share. 530 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: A lot about. 531 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 4: But that's what the Korean Vegan does for me, and 532 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: it's always cheering me on from the sidelines, like you 533 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 4: can do this, you can keep fighting. Because there are 534 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 4: so many times in my life I gotta tell you 535 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 4: where I just don't want to. I just want to 536 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 4: give up because it's so freaking exhausting. But look at 537 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 4: this amazing community I now have that keeps me, keeps 538 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 4: me going. 539 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 2: Yes, oh wow, Okay, wanted to ask you about just 540 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 2: veganism overall, and what that term means in our society today. 541 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you've been outspoken about the implicit bias and 542 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: exclusionary politics that can often be present and vegan and 543 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: plant based spaces. 544 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: Why is it important for you to take that on 545 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 4: and challenge that. Let me answer that question by sharing 546 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 4: sort of this interesting story. When I was like nine 547 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: years old, my dad he walked into my room with 548 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: his like busted up, nasty typewriter and he was like, Okay, 549 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 4: your job now is to type up all these letters 550 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 4: for my boss, or for the bank, or for this. 551 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 4: And I was like nine, barely. I did not know 552 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: how to type. I didn't even know how to turn 553 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: the typewriter on. But he already knew then that I 554 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: had a better command of the English language than he did, 555 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 4: and that I was better at making things sound more 556 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: official and professional than my father, you know, And that 557 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 4: was that was true, And for a long time I 558 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 4: hated it, and I grew to resent it. I said, 559 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 4: you're the adult. Why do I have to do the 560 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: adult things here? 561 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: Right? 562 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 4: And fast forward, you know, three decades from that point, 563 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 4: AAPI hate is running rampant in the streets and the 564 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 4: first thing I can think about is, oh, I have 565 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 4: to protect my mom and my dad. They don't even 566 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 4: know what racism looks like. They don't even know what 567 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: microaggression is. They don't know what that word is, and 568 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: if it happened to them to their faces, I think 569 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 4: they would be very hard pressed to even describe this 570 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: as racism. And so then it became my job as 571 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: somebody who spoke Korean and English, who literally spent her 572 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 4: entire life defending her parents against the banks and the 573 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 4: insurance companies and Cstomer Service because they couldn't speak the 574 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 4: language as well as they needed to. Oh, well, this 575 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 4: is what I've been modeled to do. This is what 576 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 4: I'm specifically trained to do. I can do this better 577 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 4: than most people. And it's the same thing with veganism. 578 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: Whether it's a job that I wanted or a job 579 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: that I decided to take on intentionally, well, it's one 580 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: that I'm uniquely equipped to do. I am vegan, I 581 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 4: believe in the ethics underlying veganism. I am a recipe 582 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 4: developer of vegan recipes, so I have this kind of 583 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: arsenal at my disposal. But then I'm also a Korean American. 584 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 4: I grew up as the child of immigrants. I have 585 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: experienced racism in many shapes and forms my entire life, 586 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 4: and it is the one thing in the world that 587 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: I hate more than anything. So with these two kind 588 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: of things happening inside of me, it was sort of 589 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 4: natural for me to take that up as just who 590 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: I am as part. 591 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: Of the Korean Vegan. 592 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 4: The Korean Vegan. 593 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about veganism, but. 594 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 4: More importantly, it's about compassion. It's about empowerment, it's about empathy. 595 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 4: It's about making sure that people every single day feel 596 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 4: safe to tell their stories. 597 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: Beautifully said thank you. 598 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Joanne, We're about to let you go, but I 599 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: want to go back to that quote from your website 600 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: where you said I veganized Korean food. 601 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 3: I koreanize everything else. What should we be koreanizing? There's 602 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: so many things, you know. 603 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 4: I think for me, it's it's more just like, oh, 604 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 4: there's so many wonderful things about Korean culture that you 605 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: can incorporate in many aspects of your life, whether it's 606 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: in your cooking, whether it's in your literature, whether it's 607 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 4: in your music. Certainly like come on btas you know 608 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: or you know, whether it's in movies or Korean dramas, 609 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 4: even language, like my favorite tiktoks now are like people 610 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 4: who are not native Korean speakers learning how to speak 611 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: Korean because they're so enthralled with the Korean dramas and 612 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: they want to really like lean into that language. I 613 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 4: think that's beautiful. But I don't think it's limited to 614 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 4: Korean culture, right. I think that there are so many 615 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: wonderful cultures out there, like my husband's. You know, his 616 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 4: father is Italian, and so I've been learning Italian every night. 617 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: I'm trying to watch more Italian films and more Italian dramas. 618 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 4: And you know, obviously no one has to twist my 619 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 4: arm to make Italian food. But speaking of koreanizing it, 620 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 4: I think that's a wonderful place to. 621 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Start, is you know. 622 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: I think that tomatoes and qujajang, they just work really 623 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 4: really well together, and they're also the same color, so 624 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of perfect. And you know, so 625 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 4: that's a really quick and easy way to experiment with 626 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 4: incorporating different cultural ingredients, stories, and narratives into your daily life. 627 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: Refusion is God's gift too, humankind. 628 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: I love whenever two cultures, mix their flavors, their recipes, 629 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: their traditions. 630 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 3: Oh Chef's Kiss. 631 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Joanne, Thank you so much. I so enjoyed this 632 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 4: conversation and I love the podcast. 633 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: Thank you, Joanne. 634 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: Joanne is the author of The Korean Vegan Reflections and 635 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: Recipes from Omah's Kitchen. You can find her on Instagram 636 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: and TikTok at the Korean Vegan. Okay, we have to 637 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: take a moment to reflect on our conversation with Joanne. 638 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: What stuck with you? 639 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 3: Simone? 640 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: I really admire a woman who has a clearly defined why, 641 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: and that's Joanne all the way. You can tell that 642 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 2: she's really intentional about infusing her heritage into her storytelling, 643 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: and she's also really intentional about just being real about 644 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: what she's going through and her struggles and her vulnerabilities. 645 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: I love the way that she uses food as a 646 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: vessel for connection, curiosity, and confessions. 647 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, confessions for sure. I love that you said 648 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: storyteller because I think some people would call her a 649 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: content creator, and I really view her as a storyteller 650 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: and a writer. You know, I'm not a huge cook, 651 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: so not that I don't like watching her cook, but really, 652 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: I look forward to reading her words, and I think 653 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: what I really took away was her love of family. 654 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: This is going to sound so corny, but when she 655 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: was talking about them, I felt like my heart was smiling. 656 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: I know that feeling, and I think that she's probably 657 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: done that. And then some. 658 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: After the break, we're bringing you our first ever giving 659 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: her Flowers Segment, our monthly award that shines a light 660 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: on an amazing woman and her accomplishments with an actual 661 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: bouquet of flowers. 662 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: Mind you, Today's bouquet goes to a brilliant young student who, 663 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: at just fifteen, invented a life saving medical technology. You 664 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: don't want to miss this. Stay with us. 665 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: All right, y'all. 666 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: We are back and very pumped to give our next 667 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 2: guest her flowers. Fifteen year old Nya Ellis makes me 668 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: feel like a big time underachiever, Danielle. I mean, she's 669 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: a freshman in high school and she's already making her 670 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: mark on the medical field. 671 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: Nya invented a watch that can detect the early signs 672 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: of a stroke in adults over fifty five. The invention 673 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: helped her become a champion in the National Stem Challenge, 674 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: where she beat out twenty five hundred high school students. 675 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: The New Orleans native got to present her work in Washington, DC. 676 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: See earlier this month at the National Stem Festival. NYA, 677 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the bright Side by congratulations. 678 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 3: Hi, Danielle. 679 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 6: Listen someone lovely to meet you guys and be on 680 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 6: y'all podcast today. 681 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: If you don't deserve your flowers, I don't. 682 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 3: Know who does. 683 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 4: NYA. 684 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 2: Seriously, NYA, I mean, congratulations on becoming a STEM Champion. 685 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: You got to present your work in DC. I mean, 686 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: how did it feel to have your work, this invention 687 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 2: recognized in that way. 688 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 6: It definitely felt amazing to be able to travel and 689 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 6: go present my project. I was a little scared first, 690 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 6: but honestly got comfortable and it was kind of cool. 691 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 6: Is to actually get to talk to so many different people. 692 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: Can you tell us a little bit more about this 693 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 2: stroke detection watch that you developed? 694 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 3: How does it work? 695 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 6: So the project is called win WIN. It is a 696 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 6: early stroke detection watch day. Basically, the tech strokes early 697 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 6: on through different sensors within a watch, and the different 698 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 6: sys is basically monitor your heart rate, eos on, blood pressure, 699 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 6: your oxygen levels, if you're on balance because if you're 700 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 6: all balanced, that has a sign of having a stroke. 701 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 6: And if your words are slur because a lot of 702 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 6: people who have strokes tend to go off balance. 703 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 3: I have words that slur. 704 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 6: But there also are different symptoms of just different heart problems. 705 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 6: So I mean, it's a stroke watch, but it takes 706 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 6: much more than just strokes. Naya, your brain is so beautiful. 707 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: You could have probably done a ton of things, and 708 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: you chose this specific watch. What inspired you to create this? 709 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 6: My grandmother she had a stroke when I was younger, 710 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 6: and so seeing how she kind of struggled after having 711 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 6: her stroke inspired I felt like if someone could get 712 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 6: the symptoms early on, it would definitely be much better 713 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 6: because it could cause them from not dying, cause them 714 00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 6: from just not having a severe stroke. Severe stroke, you 715 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,919 Speaker 6: could die, you could become paralyzed. 716 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. 717 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 6: Is she's still with us, Yeah, she's still with us today, 718 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 6: but you know, as she gets older, it gets harder. 719 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 6: So watching that is seeing that there's some way to 720 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 6: catch early on was definitely what inspired me. 721 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 1: How long did this take you to put together? 722 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 6: It's still going on, to be honest, but it's been 723 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 6: a Muths long process. First it was just creating the 724 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 6: idea of it, and when it became something that became 725 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 6: so big, it can see you going on and it's 726 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 6: still going on. 727 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, I see entrepreneurship in your future because you're 728 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 2: a problem solver and that really is the essence of 729 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: entrepreneurship right there. But you know, a lot of successful 730 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 2: entrepreneurs there's a whole community behind them. So who in 731 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: your community championed you? Did you have a favorite teacher 732 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 2: or mentor who supported you during this process? 733 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 3: I do have a mentor. 734 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 6: My mentor is friendly who got me system Nola, Like, 735 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 6: she still finds stuff for me to do to get 736 00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 6: me outside of the house. 737 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 2: What's next for you, Naya? Where do you want to 738 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: go next? Do you want to continue learning about this 739 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 2: topic specifically? 740 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 6: I honestly want to get this product into stores so 741 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 6: then it could help people. 742 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: But then what my education wise? 743 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 4: I want to end up going to college. 744 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 6: I want to become an obstecious kind of college, which 745 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 6: is obgya Naya. 746 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: You know we mentioned that you are competing against twenty 747 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: five hundred other young people, young students. This is really 748 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: a huge moment for you. I can imagine a huge 749 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: moment for all the people that love you. What did 750 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: this mean to you? 751 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 3: I'm still so nonchalant about it. 752 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 6: And every time someone like, see how you're giving me 753 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 6: my flowers right now, everyone is kind of like, oh 754 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 6: my god, but I'm very proud of myself. But it's like, 755 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 6: I don't it's not really hitting me yet that I 756 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 6: want to get so many kids. And I'm all over 757 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 6: the place doing different interviews with different people, and what it. 758 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 3: Do start kicking in be like, wait is this yes? 759 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: So, Naya? 760 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 3: I know no one Alice Gray stuff. 761 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 4: So yeah. 762 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,280 Speaker 1: So on the bright side, we really believe that people 763 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: working hard to inspire and uplift their communities deserve some 764 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 1: extra special love, which is why we are quite literally 765 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: giving you your flowers today courtesy of Mona's Accents in 766 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans. Naya, congratulations, thank you so much. 767 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 6: And I love that y'all are giving me my flowers 768 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 6: and allow other people to hear my story. 769 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 4: So thank you so much. 770 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 1: Nia Ellis is a high school freshman in New Orleans 771 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: and a National Stem Challenge champion. 772 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 2: Bright Side Besties, we need your help. If you know 773 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 2: someone in your community who deserves her flowers. Go ahead 774 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 2: and nominate them. Send us their name and your reasons 775 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 2: for nominating them to Hello at the bright Side podcast 776 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: dot com. We'll be showering the praise and giving out 777 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 2: flowers once a month. 778 00:39:58,880 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 3: That's it for us. Today. 779 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: Tomorrow we're talking with the founder of mother untitled neha Ushe. 780 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: She's giving us insight on how to take a step 781 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: back from work and regain some focus. Simone and I 782 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: are really excited for this one. 783 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a good one. 784 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: Y'all. 785 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 2: Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app, 786 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 787 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm Danielle Robe. You can find me on Instagram and 788 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: TikTok at Danielle Robe. 789 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: That's ro b a y and it's your girl Simone. 790 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 2: Boys, you can find me at Simone Voice on Instagram 791 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: and TikTok. 792 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow and we'll miss you in between.