WEBVTT - EP 353: Can it Be TOO Big? (Ft. Alexx Media) 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:10.760 Guess what decision We're about to make. Horrible decision. Cheerio. No, no, 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.280 I can't say that. Do another one? Would you look 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:18.680 a sport a London, We are coming to you. God, 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:22.040 that was awful that boy one what now? I don't 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:23.119 even know what they be saying. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.160 Brou Anyway, London, we are here with our rescheduled date 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:31.680 and we will be in London on May the fifth. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:34.600 By the way, that is a very important American Mexican 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.000 holiday to us, so the fact that we're coming out 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:38.560 there is a big deal. 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.640 We're gonna be at the Earth Theater. That's right on 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:41.199 a Sunday. 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.040 So if you live in another country or you live 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:44.920 in another city a little bit further away from London, 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:46.479 we would love for you to come visit us. We 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.520 made it on the weekend just so everybody that missed 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.000 us last time is able to see us this time. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:53.120 And it's a whole new show. 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.880 It is a whole new show and we are really 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.760 excited to be taking our live show to London yet again. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.960 So make sure you go head on over to hohor. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.680 Hive dot com, go all the way down to tour 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:09.880 and click on the London Show again. If you have 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.280 already purchased tickets, those will be fine and will be 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.680 able to get you into the building. So again, make 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.759 sure you get to whore Hive dot com and get 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:18.440 your tickets now. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:23.959 London, Love y'all. Philm Chick the Wow Wow. Welcome to 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:29.160 another episode of Horrible Decisions. Guys. I'm your girl, Mandy b. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:33.520 Aka Pegas Dion aka full Corpus aka debt Bitch. 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.600 My name is Weezy, and what an uncomfortable episode for me. 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.160 Both of my business partners here and y'all may know 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.280 him if you've been listening for a while. The last 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:45.280 time that we all sat on a couch, we were 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:48.040 having a pow wow how we're gonna. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.600 Respect each other. It was an interesting pow wow. But 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.160 also we must thank Philly. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:57.200 No Philly, Philly brought us together and shout out to Philly, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:01:59.720 shout out. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:05.520 To what just the whole night. I Well, so, y'all, 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:05.920 here we go. 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.640 Let's introduce the guests to the sur Yeah, because we 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:09.679 do a really bad job. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.720 And apparently your therapist because you were the one with 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.480 the problem. That's actually not when you said you just 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:16.680 added a whole bunch At the end of the. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:17.240 Day you did that. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.919 You just what you meant. Oh now y'all want to tea? 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:21.760 Do you want to know what's crazy? This is exactly 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.960 what she did, what she had to call Wait, does 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.000 it exactly what she did when she tried to create 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:28.440 a narrative called Vinnie and Vinnie was like witch. That 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.440 never happened. So shout out to people who create an area. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.080 If anyone, you'll be creating the narrative, he said, she was. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.079 No, he said you. He said you're lying on air. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.320 He says, here, Alex Media is here. 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:44.239 In the building. Okay, there we go. Uh hairclocks, I 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:49.799 actually wanted those inserted, but damn, y'all just copy here. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:54.080 But yeah, that was the last year. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:56.960 Not last year. It was the year before last. Twenty 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.880 twenty three was a little No, it was twenty twenty two. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:00.400 Think we have that? 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.320 Oh right, yeah, but you know anyways, Philly was great. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.360 Me and Alex and y'all not apparently y'all want to 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:09.880 call me a bully, but I give people a lot 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:10.800 of chances in life. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.080 No, not much. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.240 Uh, me and Alex are back cool, So y'all could 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.400 get off the Reddit threads and everywhere else we had 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.919 a really good talk. We embraced each other. He tapped 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.240 me off from my drink today his partners here, just 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.040 so you know, all respectful. 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.000 But no, we had a long talk, and I. 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:35.080 Think it was before the drinks were really flowing, because 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:36.400 by the end of the night we were drunk. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:37.720 I don't know, even tears. 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.160 Like when I looked at you guys, you know when 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.800 people do bollow sorry, I think breaking back to drugs 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.080 and you're like, are they in a moment because I 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.160 couldn't tell what was going on because when Mandy gets 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:52.600 very don't do this. When I get what when you're 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.720 like over being angry, like you're like, oh, I realized 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:59.600 this isn't serving me. Yeah, Mandy doesn't realize how aggressive 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.400 she's saying something, so like I remember you did this 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.840 to me once and you were like because like for 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:05.760 most of the time, like you're just a bitch, and 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.320 like I'm really mad about it, and so like I'm 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.400 just saying to you, you've been a bitch, but like 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:10.760 I don't want to do this anymore, Like I just 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:11.560 feel like we don't need to. 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.040 So I can see her hand, you agree with it. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:15.720 It was a little bit in that it was like, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.200 that's crashing me during the place. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:19.000 You need to get it out. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.679 So it was like because but I like it, Okay, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.920 it was real Okay. Yeah, And so that's the thing 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.320 like Oprah and Drew Barrymore just like hand in hand 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:26.880 the whole night. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.880 No, that's so mind you. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.559 The new dude that I'm dating has no context because 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.800 he doesn't that's where he met me the first time. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.920 Wasn't Philly, That's right. But I'm like watching y'all talk 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:39.240 and I'm like, oh my god, you don't understand what's 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.520 going on. But also, real quick, I'm a float bitch. 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.520 So even if I'm staying the most daring shit like 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.600 a bitch might just be talking with her hands and 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:48.880 I kind of want you to feel me. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.880 But I can hear anything, ya know. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.760 So I just see both of my business partners in 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:58.120 the corner using hand yes, So I'm like scared, and 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.960 he's like, remind you the dude some day. He's like, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.800 why are you actually And I'm like, no, y'all understand 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:04.120 what go I don't know if I need to go 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:04.480 over there. 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.360 And also, Mandy and I got a really big show 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:10.000 coming up in New York. I got took this stong Alex, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:11.880 and I also get this new studio and I happen 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:13.599 on the road. Yeah, I gotta be nice to this stick. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.240 What the fuck am I supposed to do right now? 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.240 So from afar it looked like there was an argument, 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.719 when in reality, at the end of it we embraced 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:22.680 in a hug. 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.440 And it really was Yeah, I think it was that. 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:29.400 It was just like we're all doing a lot of 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:33.040 the same things we five years ago. We're all in 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:35.760 different positions. So there, and I've sold this to Wheezy 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.760 as well. I think over the last couple of years 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:43.200 there's just been there's no way to deny a respect 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.960 factor across the board. In what I've seen you be 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.360 able to accomplish the same with Wheezy, And in terms 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.480 of our peers even I think Wolf has sat here 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.800 and seeing us grow over whether I don't like you 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.360 or not, it's one of those where I could be 0:05:57.839 --> 0:05:59.839 maybe I'm not the biggest fan of Drake doing it right. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.320 No no, no, no, real quick no no, because I 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.400 don't hate you. But also that's where that's where no 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.559 no one moment, that's where we were talking. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:10.239 This is crazy. 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:10.960 Shut up. 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:15.080 You see what I mean, like, you should try it. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:20.440 We might get through. 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:22.600 Shout out to Serena. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.880 She's very expensive though, but you got it, you rich. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:32.360 I'm not gonna lie look no, honestly, and I love 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:32.800 you saying that. 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.040 I think I've I've worked the last couple of years 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.040 on working on myself but being able to take my 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.880 own sometimes feelings out of things like literally watching and 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.520 seeing what you guys have been able to accomplish and do. 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.840 I realized I don't hate y'all, and I never really 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:52.960 hated you. Did I hate that very much? 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.280 Did I hate that moment? Did I hate the way 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.400 you responded to certain things? Did I hate some of 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:58.320 our conversations? 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:03.480 Absolutely, but holding the grudge of actually hating either of 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.880 you or certain people know so when I so. But 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.880 also one moment, one moment, I never hated you. And 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.280 to be fair, I also started hating the fact that 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.880 I'm like whatever, no, no, no no. 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.040 And this is crazy because y'all been seeing all the 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.480 little podcast beef from behind the scenes going on. Let 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.440 me share y'all a little bit what's happening with horrible decisions? 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:23.640 Right? 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.280 But when Weezy would also reach out and be like Yo, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.000 there's something that I'd like to do to enhance our business. 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.000 Alex is the best person to do this, Alex knows 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.240 what he's doing, Alex wants even But aside from that, 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:42.240 there's other things where you wanted to bring him in 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.640 and try the labs, and there's and I'm like, damn, 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:50.560 outside of our discourse, you also still put your relationship 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.640 with Weezy and how you want both of us to 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:55.320 succeed above our personal relationship. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.040 And so when I'm in therapy talking about different things, 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:03.280 I mean across all of my relationships, I'm like, I 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.360 don't have a reason to not actually reach out to 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:09.480 this person and mend this relationship. And I think in Philly, 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.120 though I'm using my hands and it may have looked aggressive, 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:18.080 I really was like, there's a misunderstanding. This person doesn't 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:20.040 wish ill on me. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.679 Never did I don't think even for seeing y'all, Okay, 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.680 did I lack the miscommunication with both y'all and what 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:28.240 was happening? 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.400 Sure? Did I ever want either of y'all to fail? 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:30.600 No? 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.400 And so I had to realize, like, you're not my enemy. 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.240 I don't hate you, I don't wish ill on you. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.240 Why can't we sit here and resolve this to where 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.480 it could benefit all of us. But also, it didn't 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:44.360 feel good walking into a room and not speaking to 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.719 you when you're her business partner. It didn't feel good 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.559 walking into a room weezy and not speaking to you, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.400 and it actually made me feel worse. So yes, in therapy, 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.520 I'm like, why am I making this so hard on myself? Honestly? 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.400 Have a book I read called The Game of Life, 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.720 and it literally talks about how like we make shit 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:10.160 harder for us, and I hate not There's a few 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.920 people in life like I can't stand and there's not 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.920 many agree, but I can remember those feelings when I 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:16.960 was around them and you, she. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:21.240 Go jacking off the mic. I don't feel like that 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:22.120 about you. 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.320 Like ever, like I'm not like, oh my god, there's 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.839 this moment where like I'm fucking fuming because if I 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.920 have those arguments with you, maybe, but like, at the 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.600 end of the day, we made something great, So how 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:33.280 can I live in this? 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.079 Literally, and that shit really taught me like, oh, I 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.640 just have to let go. I could look at Mandy 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:40.679 in one moment, I could think of years ago and 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.800 maybe I'd remember something that she did it made me 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.719 mad or an argument and I would hold it and 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.679 it was like I don't hold things anymore for what 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:54.480 bro It literally makes you age and real quick. That's 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.040 why if you go back and look at the videos, 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.360 we look way better now than we did. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.880 That, including you, you can see it. It's getting I'm 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.120 just saying, looking like big money. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:11.760 Over here she and calm down and giving high and love. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:13.600 I see. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:17.640 Anyways, I wanted to actually, uh, this episode, by the way, 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:20.160 I will say, is going to be centered towards the men. 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:21.839 So I'm glad that you're able to join us on this. 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:24.559 What made you want to come on? Horrible? Actually, he 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:29.599 hit me, he told me even he was just so, 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.160 y'all know me and Weezy book all of her own guests, 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.600 We produced all our own content, and today we did 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.600 not have a guest, So it just made sense. Al, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:39.120 here's your chance, nigga. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.240 Honestly, I never thought this day would come, yes, because 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.360 the last time that I was working with you guys, 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:47.920 you two were beefing. 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:49.160 I was trying to resolve that. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.320 Wait should we talk about how. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:52.719 How did that know? 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.319 So like, okay, I'll tell you my version. Your version 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.560 is wrong everyone that you hired. I brought on board. 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:06.640 But go ahead, look I'm laughing, youna, break it up. 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:08.920 You're gonna start, you start, you start. That was a 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:09.400 light jack. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.560 No, but it's actually true to her version is gonna 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.760 be different. No, I brought you on board. I brought 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.079 Wolf on board. But Wolf, how did Wolf started? 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:18.400 Like what? 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.599 We didn't we had a studient? No, no, no, no no. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.320 I brought Wolf into the photo Horrible. I brought Alex 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.240 into the Photo Horrible and then y'all hired them. No, 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.439 you didn't even meet her that day in the hallway 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.480 at what you McCulloch. That was we will all have 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.640 you remember we had a studio and Wolf was the 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.439 perfect person at that time, like right, like, so it 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.760 just made sense. Eden not necessarily brought into Horrible because 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.280 he had a relationship with Alex already. Alex and Eden 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:44.600 had been working together on Flagrant. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.880 So yeah, but let's be very clear, I brought but 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.400 also Eden knows I brought editon into the mix to 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.040 even be into loud speaker. So Eden, I was a 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:58.559 photographer at Lehman College, photographed me for my graduation, and 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.880 then I brought him into Loudspeaker fold Eden will say 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:03.800 the same story. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.400 And then and then and then when Eden I don't know, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.000 and then when Eden could not relationship have to do it. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.840 But then when edit and went, but then when Eden 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.840 could not, then Eden became his back up with Flagrant, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.679 but they still had a relationship. You never know. But 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.599 Eden would not have been brought into Loudspeaker had I 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.000 not brought him in, so you would. I met Wolf 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.640 during All Star weekend when he was working with Mouth. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:33.079 I love seeing people really be hungry and work. He's agreeing, 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.880 Eden would agree. I liked what he was doing and 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:37.920 brought him in for us to have a video story 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:42.040 I was gonna tell, okay, was You're welcome the irony 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.079 And I literally told this story last night. 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.839 When the question was how did you meet Alex? I 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.000 said through Mandy he hit up. Whether it was me 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.280 or Mandy or the page or whatever Mandy and him talks. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.480 He showed up at an episode of Horrible. He felt 0:12:55.520 --> 0:13:00.200 like we needed video, so I mean me and him 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.200 just and to be truthfuy. So we're born one day 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:02.439 of heart. 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:04.280 He's on the eighteenth. I'm the seventeen. We're not gonna 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:04.840 start the moons. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.600 Oh, I think our personalities are one. Like every time 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.360 I think about when we argue, I'm like, this is 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:10.000 the same reaction. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.760 Yeah, which and I hate it too because I'm. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:13.240 Like I'm. 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:19.679 And he's super emotional and heightened, and then we have 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:21.319 to both cry all much we love each other later 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.240 it's stupid. But anyway, so I was like, so naturally, no, 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.400 we became cooler than you guys were, even though you 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.480 brought up of course happened, Yeah, we started hanging out whatever. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:33.000 So I don't build friendships with my employees, but yes, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.440 what's wrong with that? And I like, so so real quick. 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.400 I have been scarred in that sense from when I 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.600 worked in the clubs I thought someone was cooler than 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.600 I did. We became no, no, So that was my background. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.520 When I was a bartender, I became really good friends, 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:56.520 Like my supervisor, my boss came to my house. I 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.439 went out to eat with her and her partner, and 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.360 when it came to her feeling like I didn't respect 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.320 her power at work, I was like, oh, and so. 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.720 It got too friendly. And so to me, that's been 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:14.959 a thing. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.760 And again it could be trauma, but there's been a 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.480 real even seeing what's happening with Lizo, I'll be telling 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:22.280 my staff. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.520 Don't live on me. We ain't got no HR. 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.400 But when you become too close with someone, they don't 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:32.320 know how to take direction or maybe criticism the same 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.760 way because now you've blended work and personal. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:36.720 I get that, but I think as a way that 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:42.880 you can still be respectful and still hey, fix or 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.080 course correct someone. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.400 It's two ways. So that like great working relationship. Oh 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.320 he's amazing. But also I was gonna say, with gig 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.200 type work. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.240 At that point in time, there's no real partnership I 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.880 have with Alex except he does the video. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.400 So to me and I guess that's where we look different. 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.080 That's where we're talking now on even expanding Horrible right, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:10.240 not co mingling a Horrible team with our studios teams 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.920 Like to me, I would love for people to be 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.520 a part of the Horrible Decisions team that want us 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.400 to grow, that bring ideas that feel like, as y'all grow, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.160 I'm going to grow. As y'all grow, I'm gonna get money. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.840 And I think that became the conversation with Alex too 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.640 as we started getting money. And this is why you know, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.280 there was jazz about how we didn't pay you. The 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.320 conversation needs to be as we make more money. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.160 I would love for our team to make more money. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.680 And so I think that then Alex, what were you 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:38.960 getting paid and what did you want to get paid? 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:40.960 Because the rate of video now is so funny. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:42.640 Hey, y'all about to talk about it. This is about 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.800 to be a Reddit thrand Bach like, I don't want 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:45.080 to know. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:47.520 I don't want to I. 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.640 Want you to say the amount, mainly because and we'll 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.120 think about the same shit too, Like you're always thinking 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.760 Mandy and I and Alex and I and like what 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.760 people start off with and where they're at now, Like Nigga, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.280 you directed for Netflix, but so you own production studios, 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.440 Like you got to think about how crazy that is, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.040 even Mandy and I the money that we've taken for 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:08.680 like things or we're spending on this. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.600 I think at the time you didn't even have ads yet. 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:13.600 No, we didn't mind you. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.520 I'm in my last year of college, so I'm paying 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:22.080 Rent and Alex off of Sally May because I'm interning 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.280 at Roman Sacks. But she has a six figure job, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.600 but I'm still technically I had roommates, I lived in 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.880 the Bronx and we're and had business partners with fifty 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.320 fifty and we split e when Alex came in because 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.400 we didn't even know, like, you know, we're spending money 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.600 to do this podcast. We had Patreon, which was why 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.280 we were like, okay, we could, but I want to 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.720 trade was fifty dollars, right, fifty dollars per episode and 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.400 you wanted seven hundred seventy five or one hundred. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.760 And mind you hold on real quick and let me 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.080 go to where I'm corporate. I'm corporate and video. 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.920 I was corporate and and mind you, I'm at Goldman 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.000 in this podcast more than you have, no, no, no no. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:08.440 At the time, I'm again in college, I'm making twenty 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:12.000 dollars an hour, so I'm still thinking on an hourly basis. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:16.280 So the idea of someone making one hundred dollars menuor 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:19.480 episodes are an hour and everyone the efficiency of how 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:23.359 we fucking record, right, So in my mind, yeah, bitch, 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.639 that's five hours of work to pay you like, so 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:29.040 where my mind goes, That's where it was going. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:30.960 And I understood that, and I think now you get 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.640 it more because you have more experience in production. 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.240 Yes, you didn't know that you have to go back. 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.840 The d T is the editing after I said, the 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.400 video camera setup is probably the worst thing I've seen 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.439 when we do mobile recordings and shit, like holy shit, 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.760 because Alex and I did DJ drama all on site, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.520 even in Paris. Yeah, that was the only time where 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.719 you didn't really have to do too much, like they 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.000 hired another scene, but you were helping everybody get their 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.720 shit together and like renting our like brother, that was crazy. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:00.560 So I remember when you asked for it, and I 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.840 was like even me, I was like, damn, I want 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.280 to pay this, but I know we have to because 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:06.359 you explained to me it's the ship after that's what 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.040 editors do, right. I was like, all right, let me 0:18:09.119 --> 0:18:11.200 talk to Mandy. Mandy was like, Ohther's not talking. He 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:12.200 already talk to me. He's fired. 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:18.320 No, yes, not because you wanted more if you got 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:22.720 fired because of the flag greate conversation. Yeah, not only so, 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:25.040 not only did you just make a joke about my 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:29.280 weight loss surgery on a huge platform, not only did 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:30.359 my cohs participate. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:31.880 You want me to pay you more? 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:35.240 Fuck out here, but my co host made that joke. 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:36.800 I didn't. I never joked about it. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.520 There was no shutdown of it, and it went on 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.560 for weeks and I was terrorized. Let's be very close. 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.440 No, let's be very clear. I was terrorized four weeks. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.440 Then it got brought up in proceeding weeks following. So 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.240 not only do I feel on the outside of both 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.919