WEBVTT - When an ICE Camp Comes to Town

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<v Speaker 1>When an ICE camp comes to town, Tremont, Pennsylvania is unprepared,

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<v Speaker 1>under equipped, and largely unwilling. The same is true for

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<v Speaker 1>many of the other places tapped for similar warehouse jails.

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<v Speaker 1>So far, none of that matters by Fola Acanebee read

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<v Speaker 1>aloud by Mark Leedorf. The rumors started in January. Leaked

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<v Speaker 1>plans suggested Emigration and Customs Enforcement was looking to turn

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<v Speaker 1>warehouses across the U S into massive immigration detention centers.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the largest was planned for Tremont, Pennsylvania, a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny rural township in Skugul County, about one hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>northwest to Philadelphia. Residents peppered officials with questions during county

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<v Speaker 1>commissioner's meetings. What information did they have? How did they

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<v Speaker 1>plan to respond? Larry Pdora, a Republican in the deep

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<v Speaker 1>red county and leader of the three person commission, wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to kill the rumors. At a late January meeting, he

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<v Speaker 1>paused the lively public comment period to give a firm

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<v Speaker 1>statement there was no evidence ICE was coming to town.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, no deeds recorded, know anything that this facility

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<v Speaker 1>is even being purchased. He was referring to a former

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<v Speaker 1>distribution center for the bankrupt discounter Big Lots. It had

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<v Speaker 1>been identified in the press as a potential site. The

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<v Speaker 1>commissioners had checked the tax assessor's office and asked the

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<v Speaker 1>local Economic Development Organization. They spoke to the offices of

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<v Speaker 1>Governor Josh Shapiro, US Representative Dan Muser, and U S

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<v Speaker 1>Senators Dave McCormick and John Fetterman. None had heard anything

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<v Speaker 1>from ICE, as Padora was unequivocally denying the reports. However,

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<v Speaker 1>the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE, had been

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<v Speaker 1>quietly and quickly working to buy the facility in Tremont,

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<v Speaker 1>a township of two hundred and eighty four that's right

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<v Speaker 1>next to a borough of roughly seventeen hundred also named Tremont.

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<v Speaker 1>A deed had been notarized for almost two weeks. It

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<v Speaker 1>would take effect the day after the hearing. The rumors

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<v Speaker 1>were true. Nobody had confirmation of this beforehand in any way,

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<v Speaker 1>shape or form, Podora said at the first County Commission

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<v Speaker 1>hearing after the deed had been filed. The agency's actions

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to catch Pennsylvania officials at every level on the

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<v Speaker 1>back foot. They say DHS bought the massive empty warehouse

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<v Speaker 1>without informing them, without inviting public comment, and without giving

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<v Speaker 1>any advance notice. The officials appeared shocked by the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of communication from the federal government on such a large

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<v Speaker 1>project and the speed at which it was moving. Flush

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<v Speaker 1>with tens of billions of dollars in funding and a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty nine deadline to spend it, DHS has been

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<v Speaker 1>moving at breakneck speed to remake America's immigration detention infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 1>Crucial to this effort is a thirty eight point three

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollar plan for ICE to shrink its detention footprint

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty four government owned sites from more than two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred state, county and local jails and private prisons that

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<v Speaker 1>are essentially leased. The agency's rationale is that this will

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<v Speaker 1>make for more efficient operations and faster deportations, and also

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<v Speaker 1>increase the number of beds available. Since the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, DHS has spent at least one point one

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars on eleven warehouses across the country. It wants

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<v Speaker 1>to open them by fall. Much more spending is inevitable,

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<v Speaker 1>DHS plans to buy an additional thirteen warehouses, though the

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<v Speaker 1>agency has paused for their purchases for now. And ten

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<v Speaker 1>existing jails. Any and all warehouses will require extensive conversion.

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<v Speaker 1>The empty shells will have to be outfitted with toilets, showers, beds,

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<v Speaker 1>and dining and recreation areas. A preliminary plan sparked alarm

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<v Speaker 1>among immigrant advocates and local jurisdictions. The living quarters appeared

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<v Speaker 1>so tightly packed that there was little room for adequate sanitation, recreation,

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<v Speaker 1>or even exit in an emergency. DHS hasn't commented on

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<v Speaker 1>that early plan or produced a current one for public consumption.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite a growing list of concerns from officials and community

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<v Speaker 1>members who recently learned they're about to play host to

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<v Speaker 1>detention facilities, DHS has released few public details of the plans.

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<v Speaker 1>The only concrete outline of the agency's vision beyond the purchases,

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<v Speaker 1>is a four page document three if you don't count

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<v Speaker 1>a page, that's just a picture, that was released by

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<v Speaker 1>the State of New Hampshire, which received it from DHS

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<v Speaker 1>after word got out that ICE was eyeing a facility

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<v Speaker 1>in the state. Facets of the agency's multi billion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>plan have come under scrutiny. According to research from commercial

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<v Speaker 1>real estate firm Costar, The government is paying eleven percent

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<v Speaker 1>to thirteen percent more than other buyers of similar facilities.

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<v Speaker 1>DHS avoided assessing the environmental impact of converting these sites

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<v Speaker 1>until pressured to do so. Some of the facilities sit

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<v Speaker 1>near sensitive locations, including schools, homes, or even chemical storage facilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the host locales don't appear to have the infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>emergency services, or labor force to support what's being proposed.

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<v Speaker 1>That includes Schougle County, in a place where roughly seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of voters picked Donald Trump in the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four eleve action, a bipartisan grassroots backlash has emerged. DHS

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<v Speaker 1>appears to be spending money without thinking its plans through,

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<v Speaker 1>says Michelle Brunet, the agency's immigration detention ombudsman under President

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden. If the goal was cost effectiveness, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't be doing this. There are also significant risks

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<v Speaker 1>that come with locking up this many people in converted warehouses,

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<v Speaker 1>ruinous environmental consequences, human suffering and death. They should know this,

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<v Speaker 1>Brune says. DHS didn't directly respond to a detailed request

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<v Speaker 1>for comment from Bloomberg BusinessWeek. Instead, an agency spokesperson recycled

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<v Speaker 1>the statement it has given numerous outlets about the warehouse effort,

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's reviewing agency policies and proposals as part of

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<v Speaker 1>its transition efforts. The spokesperson pointed to DHS Secretary Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne Mullen's testimony during his confirmation hearing, we want to

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<v Speaker 1>work with community leaders. Mullen, who replaced Christy Nome, told

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<v Speaker 1>Congress in March, we want to be good partners. In

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<v Speaker 1>Tremont Township, where DHS purchased the old Big Lots distribution

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<v Speaker 1>center for one hundred and nineteen point five million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>the experience has been a case study in the agency's

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<v Speaker 1>decision making and communication. DHS wants to detain as many

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<v Speaker 1>as eighty five hundred people in the facility and employ

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand to twenty five hundred workers on site. That

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<v Speaker 1>would make it the second largest community in the county,

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<v Speaker 1>dwarfing the borough and township population, and a threat to

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<v Speaker 1>the local water and sewer system. According to local authorities.

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<v Speaker 1>The building is steps from the area's sole daycare, Yet

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<v Speaker 1>the only communication about how this will be addressed has

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<v Speaker 1>been through sporadic conference calls with Pedora and other local

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<v Speaker 1>officials who've tried to provide updates at County Commission meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>Those updates have recently trickled to a stop. The former

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<v Speaker 1>Big Lots distribution center sits at the top of a mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a massive, white building, set back from a parking

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<v Speaker 1>lot and lined with one hundred and twelve truck loading

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<v Speaker 1>docks and two drive indoors. There are no windows. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a single story, rectangular box with one point two million

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<v Speaker 1>square feet of floor space, the equivalent of roughly eight

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<v Speaker 1>Costco stores or twenty two football fields. The interior configuration

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<v Speaker 1>again think Costco was well suited for Big Lots to

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<v Speaker 1>get its mishmash of products out to its stores quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and two, a year after it opened,

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<v Speaker 1>a distribution industry trade publication touted the facility as state

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<v Speaker 1>of the art, noting it was able to ship out

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty thousand cases of goods a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Lots began to struggle, and in twenty twenty the

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<v Speaker 1>company raised cash by selling the warehouse to a real

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<v Speaker 1>estate investment firm. Big Lots then leased back the facility.

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<v Speaker 1>That firm was acquired a year later by Blue Owl Capital.

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<v Speaker 1>In early twenty twenty five, months after filing for bankruptcy,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Lots closed the warehouse and laid off all five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and five employees. Esthetics and liveability weren't chief among

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<v Speaker 1>the concerns for Big Lots when it built the facility. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't an easy project. The company had to clear

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six feet of mountaintop where the warehouse sits, carefully

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<v Speaker 1>coordinating the explosive blasts to avoid disturbing a series of

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<v Speaker 1>disused mines hundreds of feet below, and an aircraft fuel

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<v Speaker 1>line that divides the property. It timed construction to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>the brutal winter conditions that affect the mountain. Years of

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<v Speaker 1>planning and preparation, conversations with local and state officials, and

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<v Speaker 1>engagement with the local community all went into getting the

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<v Speaker 1>facility open. The federal government originally said it would need

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<v Speaker 1>four months to convert the building into a detention center.

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<v Speaker 1>Pallets and racks once lined the space up to its

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<v Speaker 1>forty foot ceilings, ICE wants to install rigid walls and doors.

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<v Speaker 1>According to internal agency plans seen by BusinessWeek, Immigration detention

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<v Speaker 1>facilities need laundry and medical services, areas, space for food

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<v Speaker 1>prep and dining, and housing. Big Lots didn't need hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of toilets for discounted furniture home goods, and the employees

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<v Speaker 1>to pass with sorting and storing them didn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>shower daily on site, exercise outdoors, or be fed three

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<v Speaker 1>square meals. In its statement to Business Week, the agency

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<v Speaker 1>said it evaluated the facilities to help minimize environmental impacts,

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<v Speaker 1>including potential impacts to protected species, sensitive natural resources, and

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<v Speaker 1>valued cultural resources. ICE expects people to be in its

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<v Speaker 1>mega facilities for as long as sixty days, though recent

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<v Speaker 1>data shows people are routinely detained for longer. Within hours

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump's inauguration in January twenty twenty five, DHS began

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<v Speaker 1>taking steps to achieve a goal of deporting one million

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<v Speaker 1>people a year. Immediately it became clear that reaching that

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<v Speaker 1>goal would require mass arrests. Despite saying it was focused

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<v Speaker 1>on criminals, often referred to as the worst of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst by agency officials, the government would need to sweep

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<v Speaker 1>up law abiding residents, children, and people attending their immigration hearings.

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<v Speaker 1>DHS still fell short the first year, but the arrests

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<v Speaker 1>it made did let to record levels of detention, in

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<v Speaker 1>part because of the time and resources it can take

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<v Speaker 1>to deport a single person. There are roughly sixty six

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people in ICE custody, down from a record seventy

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand in January. During the Biden administration, the highest

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<v Speaker 1>number of people detained by ICE at any given time

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<v Speaker 1>was about thirty nine thousand. To address the newly created

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<v Speaker 1>need for detention space, the Trump administration quickly built a

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<v Speaker 1>large tent camp at the Fort Bliss Army Base in

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<v Speaker 1>El Paso, Texas. For now, the immigration detention center at

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<v Speaker 1>Fort Bliss is the largest in the US, with room

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<v Speaker 1>for five thousand beds. It cost one point twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars and has so far been a disaster. In

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<v Speaker 1>less than a year of operations, the camp has never

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<v Speaker 1>come close to its five thousand person capacity. It has

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with a measles outbreak and accusations from detainees of

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<v Speaker 1>inhumane conditions, and at least three incarcerated people have died recently.

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<v Speaker 1>The federal government replaced the contractor originally tasked with overseeing

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<v Speaker 1>the site, a tiny Virginia company called Acquisition Logistics. If

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<v Speaker 1>filled to capacity, the four biggest proposed warehouse jails, including Tremont,

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<v Speaker 1>would each be among the largest detention facilities of any

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<v Speaker 1>kind in the US, yet DHS has historically struggled to

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<v Speaker 1>operate jails holding more than two thousand people. The smaller

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<v Speaker 1>facilities run better, says Claire Trickler McNulty, an assistant director

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<v Speaker 1>at ICE during the first Trump administration and under Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Big facilities are hard to staff adequately, especially in rural areas.

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<v Speaker 1>The logistics for food and medical care are hard to manage.

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<v Speaker 1>A few officials have had success persuading DHS to drop

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<v Speaker 1>plans in their jurisdictions. New Hampshire Governor Kelly Iott got

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<v Speaker 1>then DHS Secretary Nome to scrap plans for a warehouse

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<v Speaker 1>in the state after a February meeting. Mississippi Senator Roger

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<v Speaker 1>Wicker had similar luck. Sellers have also pulled out over

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<v Speaker 1>community opposition. Facility owners in Missouri, Oklahoma, Virginia, and Utah

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<v Speaker 1>got cold feet, though in Salt Lake City the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government was able to purchase a different warehouse. In seven

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<v Speaker 1>other jurisdictions, the plans to buy sites appear to have

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<v Speaker 1>stalled still. DHS owns eleven empty warehouses. It's awarded contracts

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<v Speaker 1>for converting and running just two of them. In Maryland,

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<v Speaker 1>and Arizona. Those contracts, which together could be worth up

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<v Speaker 1>to one point four billion dollars, have been bogged down

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<v Speaker 1>by local concerns about lack of infrastructure or emergency services,

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<v Speaker 1>and proximity to schools and homes. In addition to humanitarian opposition,

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<v Speaker 1>there are also accusations of failures to communicate with local

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<v Speaker 1>officials and to conduct environmental reviews, in some cases, because

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<v Speaker 1>DHS has declared a review isn't necessary on big projects.

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<v Speaker 1>The federal government typically attempts to mitigate such concerns beforehand.

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<v Speaker 1>Not this time. They got this insane amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>and Congress didn't make them put out a public plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Trickler McNulty says, they haven't said why this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. We'll be right back with when an ice

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<v Speaker 1>camp comes to town. Welcome back to when an ice

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<v Speaker 1>camp comes to town. Tremont Borough's main Street, a half

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<v Speaker 1>mile long commercial and residential corridor, has a pizza place, bar,

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<v Speaker 1>post office, and bank. There's a single three way stoplight

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<v Speaker 1>near the main retail attraction, a family dollar store. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as amenities go, there's a small plot of grass

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<v Speaker 1>that serves as a veterans park and memorial The borough's pool,

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<v Speaker 1>in dire need of repairs, has been closed since the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the twenty twenty two season. Residents have formed

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<v Speaker 1>a committee to try to get it reopened, though local

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<v Speaker 1>officials say it would cost two hundred dollars per resident

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it operating. In response to a notice on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook that the pool would again not be opening in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, one person said, not much left for

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<v Speaker 1>Tremont to offer that attracts taxpayers. Tremont Township, the larger

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<v Speaker 1>and less populous surrounding area, is more rural. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>smattering of homes, a local government building, a gas station

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<v Speaker 1>with a Burger king off, roading areas, and auto repair shops.

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Lots Warehouse was one of the county's biggest

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<v Speaker 1>employers when it was open. Otherwise, not many people work

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<v Speaker 1>in the township or the borough. The average commute time

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<v Speaker 1>to work for residents is nearly thirty minutes, according to

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<v Speaker 1>Census Bureau data. There's a range of feelings about the

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<v Speaker 1>proposed detention facility. Joe and Lara Viscount, retired teachers in

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<v Speaker 1>their fifties who are liberal members of a local Democratic club,

0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.840
<v Speaker 1>are opposed to the facility. On every level. They've pressured

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<v Speaker 1>Padora and other local officials to resist the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>and made themselves available to the media. Tremont Borough's mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Moehler, a Republican, says he's powerless to stop the

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<v Speaker 1>facility and his only concerns are about water and sewage.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's no impact to those systems, he says, then

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<v Speaker 1>it is out of the borough's hands anyway. He one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred percent supports the administration's immigration agenda. By his estimation,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of residents are excited about the prospect of

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<v Speaker 1>the facility. Joe Viscount disagrees. He attended a spring protest

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<v Speaker 1>where there were he says, sixty to eighty people marching

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<v Speaker 1>against the facility and five or six counter protesters. The

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<v Speaker 1>township and the borough have a combined population of fewer

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<v Speaker 1>than two thousand, roughly a quarter of whom are older

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<v Speaker 1>than sixty five. The facility will need a staff of

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand to twenty five hundred. At the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>the government could produce an independent economic impact study, says

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<v Speaker 1>Breonna del Val, who lives in Skukl County and has

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<v Speaker 1>helped lead some of the local opposition through an organization

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<v Speaker 1>called No Scook Detention. If we can actually confront the

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<v Speaker 1>real impacts, the financial impacts of this, it will help

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<v Speaker 1>us plan, she says. Many residents say they fear it

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<v Speaker 1>will be another idea with terrible consequences for them. Already,

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<v Speaker 1>the area participates in a waste recycling process that can

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<v Speaker 1>begin with a toilet flush in eastern Brooklyn. The waste

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<v Speaker 1>is treated by New York City's sewer system and turned

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<v Speaker 1>into a sludge made of feces, food, and paper fibers.

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<v Speaker 1>The biosludge, equivalent in weight over the course of a

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<v Speaker 1>year to the Washington Monument, is sent by trucks to

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<v Speaker 1>a facility in an adjacent township. It's turned into fertilizer

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<v Speaker 1>on site. This transformation produces a smell that hangs in

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<v Speaker 1>the air in town, even on cold days in the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Residents say it can be unbearable. People get headaches, children

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<v Speaker 1>can't play outside, and windows remain shut. Lane Mack Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two, a lifelong Burrow resident, calls the facility the

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<v Speaker 1>ship plant. Up the road. Residents have been living with

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<v Speaker 1>the smell for years. On the other side of town,

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<v Speaker 1>a second facility deals in sludge too. Sometimes material sloshes

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<v Speaker 1>out of transport trucks onto the street, says Joe Viscount.

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<v Speaker 1>The smell forces him and his wife to make calculations

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<v Speaker 1>about their outdoor time. There's actually a third fertilizer facility

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<v Speaker 1>a bit farther away from town. Those projects were sold

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<v Speaker 1>as economic development opportunities, but the two nearby bio solids

0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.960
<v Speaker 1>facilities employ roughly twenty people combined. One of the facilities

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<v Speaker 1>pays a two dollars municipal fee per ton of wet

0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.320
<v Speaker 1>sludge it receives. According to documents filed with the Pennsylvania

0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Department of Environmental Protection, one facility sits outside the township,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other reports activities in three local townships, including Tremont.

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<v Speaker 1>The smell doesn't recognize those political boundaries. Residents haven't heard

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<v Speaker 1>directly from the federal government about the warehouse jail. What's

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<v Speaker 1>clear is the facility won't pay taxes. The Fed's purchase

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<v Speaker 1>of the site will cost the school district and the

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<v Speaker 1>local and county government almost one million dollars in revenue annually,

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<v Speaker 1>compared with what big lots and the subsequent owners paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither the township nor the borough has a full time

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<v Speaker 1>police officer. The fire department is volunteer. The emergency medical

0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.840
<v Speaker 1>services system is already stretched thin. The closest emergency room

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<v Speaker 1>is a thirty minute drive in its existing facilities. ICE

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<v Speaker 1>relies on local sources for all these services. Regularly, in

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<v Speaker 1>the past five months of operations at Fort Bliss, staff

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<v Speaker 1>called nine to one one nearly once a day. Pedora,

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<v Speaker 1>the Schoukel County Commissioner's leader, is the main conduit between

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<v Speaker 1>the local community and DHS, and that line of communication

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<v Speaker 1>has not been robust. On the first conference call he

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<v Speaker 1>had with federal officials, he says, there were two dozen

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<v Speaker 1>people in a zoom meeting, many from the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>without their cameras. On These faceless federal officials didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>answers to many of the county's basic logistical questions. On

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<v Speaker 1>subsequent calls, the federal government suggested that it would hire

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<v Speaker 1>locally to the extent possible, and that it would consider

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<v Speaker 1>making an annual payment in lieu of taxes to help

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<v Speaker 1>offset the lost tax revenue. Pedora has sought to get

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<v Speaker 1>these assurances in writing. Those informal concessions don't address the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest hurdle to the proposal. The water there simply isn't

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<v Speaker 1>enough of it in the area to support what Ice

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<v Speaker 1>is proposing. Even if Tremont stopped using water altogether, there

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be enough. In twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>the area experienced its worst drought in decades, and the

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<v Speaker 1>water problems were exacerbated in twenty twenty four when the

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<v Speaker 1>borough used roughly sixty percent of its reserves to fight

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<v Speaker 1>a massive fire. Recently, to supplement the supply, the Regional

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<v Speaker 1>Water Authority has hauled water in with trucks and obtained

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<v Speaker 1>permission to tap into a reservoir that the regions stop

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<v Speaker 1>using in the nineteen nineties because of water quality concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>That new source can safely give Tremont an additional seventy

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<v Speaker 1>thousand gallons a day. At capacity, the ICE facility would

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<v Speaker 1>need almost one million gallons of water a day, according

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<v Speaker 1>to the state Department of Environmental Protection. That's one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty times what big lots used. If Ice were

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<v Speaker 1>forced to rely on the big lots amount, it could

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<v Speaker 1>safely detain sixty three people as long as staff didn't

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<v Speaker 1>use the bathroom, wash their hands, or drink any water.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tremont system's maximum capacity is four hundred thousand gallons

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<v Speaker 1>per day, but it's capped at a figure below that

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<v Speaker 1>multi state water regulator. On an average day in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, the region used two hundred and eight thousand

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<v Speaker 1>gallons of water. There's no other water in Tremont. DHS

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<v Speaker 1>told Padora in limited conversations with him that it was

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<v Speaker 1>considering trucking in water to the facility. Delivering a million

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<v Speaker 1>gallons of water a day to a facility at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of a mountain strange credulity, says David Hess, who

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<v Speaker 1>headed the Pennsylvania Deep in the early two thousands. Such

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<v Speaker 1>a plan would require roughly one hundred and sixty six

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<v Speaker 1>trucks per day. Every day. They'd be trucking water in

0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>around the clock. Has says. Even the largest water storage

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<v Speaker 1>tanks on the market would have to be refilled every

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<v Speaker 1>few days, a logistical nightmare, he says, and as water

0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.399
<v Speaker 1>comes in, it will need to be taken out. The

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<v Speaker 1>proposed detention center could produce four hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>to one million gallons of sewage daily. The regional water authority,

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<v Speaker 1>authorized to handle five hundred thousand gallons is already at

0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent capacity. Anything above that is at risk of

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<v Speaker 1>being discharged untreated into the nearby Swatara Creek, a tributary

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:10.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Susquehanna River. The people in surrounding counties drink

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<v Speaker 1>the water at the Immigration tent camp in the Florida Everglades,

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<v Speaker 1>dubbed Alligator Alcatraz, it cost ninety two million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>haul out less than a year's worth of wastewater that

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<v Speaker 1>was for roughly five hundred detainees. Florida is expected to

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<v Speaker 1>close the facility in part because of the huge costs

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<v Speaker 1>to run it. Implementing a strategy like that at Tremont

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<v Speaker 1>would double the number of trucks coming in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of the facility. Water and sewer isn't rocket science. It's

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<v Speaker 1>basic stuff. Has says the fact that they failed to

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<v Speaker 1>look at this basic stuff. What else are they missing?

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<v Speaker 1>What DHS is or isn't missing is the subject of

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<v Speaker 1>federal suits in at least five of the jurisdictions in

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<v Speaker 1>which it has bought facilities. Maryland sued the agency in

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<v Speaker 1>late February over a proposed fifteen hundred bed warehouse jail

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<v Speaker 1>in the state's panhandle. The law suit accused DHS of

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<v Speaker 1>violating federal law by failing to consider the environmental impact

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<v Speaker 1>of the project instead of conducting a traditional environmental review.

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<v Speaker 1>The agency acknowledged in the lawsuit it did a limited

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<v Speaker 1>review and found the project is not expected to result

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<v Speaker 1>in any significant adverse environmental impacts. That determination, the agency argued,

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<v Speaker 1>eliminated the need for a month's long impact study. It

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<v Speaker 1>conducted the review in one day, the same day it

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<v Speaker 1>completed the purchase of the property. The federal judge overseeing

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<v Speaker 1>the case didn't find the government's argument convincing. He halted

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:38.640
<v Speaker 1>construction pending a full environmental review. In June, the agency

0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:42.119
<v Speaker 1>released a public comment form to kick off its environmental assessment.

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<v Speaker 1>The suit is ongoing. New Jersey followed Maryland's lead in March,

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<v Speaker 1>suing over a similar facility. It led with the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of environmental review and also accused DHS of violating federal

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<v Speaker 1>immigration law and a law that requires the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>to account for all national, regional, state, and local viewpoints

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<v Speaker 1>for development programs and projects. Days later, Michigan made a

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>similar claim. DHS filed its limited review of the Michigan site,

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<v Speaker 1>with finding similar to those from Maryland, more than a

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<v Speaker 1>month after purchasing the site and hours after Michigan filed suit.

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<v Speaker 1>In response, DHS has said Michigan does not have standing

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<v Speaker 1>to bring the lawsuit and that the agency needs detention

0:23:23.080 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 1>space in the Detroit area. The New Jersey proceedings were

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<v Speaker 1>paused after DHS agreed to begin assessing the environmental impact.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona raised a challenge as soon as work started on

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<v Speaker 1>a warehouse site there. The state alleges that DHS didn't

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<v Speaker 1>conduct any review at all. Social Circle Georgia, a small

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<v Speaker 1>town fifty miles east of Atlanta, filed the most recent

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.280
<v Speaker 1>suit in mid May. The agency has yet to respond.

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<v Speaker 1>Officials in other jurisdictions where DHS has bought warehouses have

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to slow the government by using local powers. Salt

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<v Speaker 1>Lake City officials have taken steps to limit water usage

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<v Speaker 1>by non residential facilities because of drought conditions in the

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<v Speaker 1>region and the potential for the proposed warehouse jail to

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<v Speaker 1>sap water resources. San Antonio changed its zoning rules in

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<v Speaker 1>an attempt to derail the warehouse conversion there at a

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 1>site that faces an elementary school and department complex. El

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>Paso's water authorities have also raised questions about the potential

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<v Speaker 1>strains on infrastructure from a proposed facility. Pennsylvania is mounting

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<v Speaker 1>an aggressive defense of its own. The Department of Environmental

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<v Speaker 1>Protection simply shut off the water to the site, as

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<v Speaker 1>well as to another smaller proposed facility in the state.

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<v Speaker 1>A series of March orders cut off access to water

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>and sewage until DHS seeks permits and regulatory approvals for

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<v Speaker 1>the project. It also asked the federal government to produce

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<v Speaker 1>its plans for water and sewage management at the site

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<v Speaker 1>within twenty days. On March seventeen, six weeks after DHS

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>became the owner of the Tremont facility, Pennsylvania state officials

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<v Speaker 1>received their first communication from the federal government about the project.

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<v Speaker 1>ICE Assistant Director Keith Inglesby acknowledged the state's environmental orders

0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>in a letter that requested an extension for submitting the

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 1>water and sewage plans. ICE will not be able to

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<v Speaker 1>meet the twenty day deadline for delivering these plans to

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 1>d EP because it has not finalized them yet, the

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<v Speaker 1>letter read. The agency sought a meeting with state officials

0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.159
<v Speaker 1>to discuss a path forward, and asked the regulator to

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<v Speaker 1>at least let it use water at the levels Big

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Lots was using before it vacated. DP refused both requests.

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<v Speaker 1>At DHS, there's been internal scrutiny of the almost forty

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 1>billion dollar effort. DHS's Office of Inspector General has announced

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<v Speaker 1>its doing an audit of ICE's push for more detention

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>space that seeks to figure out whether the purchases meet

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>ICE's operational need in a cost effective manner. This came

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<v Speaker 1>after a separate internal review of the program soon after

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:51.639
<v Speaker 1>Mullen took over. ICE has repeatedly pointed to numerous solutions

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>that would keep it from creating an adverse impact to

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<v Speaker 1>the water authority infrastructure in the places it plans to

0:25:57.240 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>turn warehouses into detention facilities. It hasn't made any of

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<v Speaker 1>those solutions public in Pennsylvania, it hasn't produced any water

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>or sewage plans. It hasn't produced an environmental impact report.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet it's pressing forward its appealing the Pennsylvania environmental orders,

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<v Speaker 1>arguing in part that they suggest unantipathy towards ICE. According

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to the documents, the appeal process could take months. DHS

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<v Speaker 1>also brushed aside the environmental concerns in its statement to

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<v Speaker 1>Business Week, saying those opposed to the project are feigning

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<v Speaker 1>concern to obstruct the president's immigration agenda. None of the

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:36.400
<v Speaker 1>eleven warehouses bought by DHS are close to ready for occupancy.

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<v Speaker 1>People with knowledge of the process say the next two

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward are likely to be those in San

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio and El Paso, where no legal action has been taken.

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<v Speaker 1>Mullen has not said when DHS will resume buying warehouses.

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<v Speaker 1>On June ninth, Congress passed an additional seventy billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in funding for immigration enforcement through twenty twenty nine. On

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<v Speaker 1>top of that, Congress is debating an annual budget appropriation

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<v Speaker 1>that could give ICE even more money. In the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>government officials and residence in Tremont are waiting. Pedora used

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<v Speaker 1>many of the March Commission meetings to provide Residence with

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<v Speaker 1>updates from his conversations with state officials and with DHS.

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<v Speaker 1>More recently, he's conceded that things are in a holding pattern. Locally,

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<v Speaker 1>there's resignation that if the federal government wants to jam

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<v Speaker 1>this through, it will. This is just another injustice forced

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<v Speaker 1>upon this part of the country for no good reason,

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<v Speaker 1>says del Val of no scoop detention Before that, residents

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<v Speaker 1>are hoping they'll at least get a time line, a

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<v Speaker 1>written plan, and some say in the process or simply

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<v Speaker 1>some notice