1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: roll through the As we roll through the what is it? 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: It's the Tuesday edition of the program. Right, sure, I'm 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: flying down to South Florida. We'll be with Buck Thursday 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: Friday in Miami. It's gonna be fun. Can't wait for that. 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: All right. There's a scene in season four of Succession, 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: episode two aired a couple of weeks ago where the 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: main character, the dad, the media baron, is dressing his 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: children and I feel like we need to get this 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: clip and just keep it on constant refrain because I 13 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: heard it and I was like, this is so amazing. 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: And the main character, the media baron, who is a 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch like figure, says to his children, I love you, 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: but you are not serious people. And I thought it 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: was such a perfect line. And I know there are 18 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: a lot of parents and grandparents out there that are like, 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, they just distilled my entire life. I 20 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: love you, but you are not serious people. And I 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: feel like many left wing arguments when it really boils down. 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: They're all cosmetic theater. They don't really have substance behind them, 23 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: because at their essence, they're rooted in emotion, and emotion 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: is frankly the enemy of logic. And so I love you, 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: but you are not serious people. Is such an amazing line, 26 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: and it was in season four succession, episode two. I 27 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: thought about that. There's been a big controversy. Right, we 28 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: still don't have Let's start here. We still don't have 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: the trans shooters manifesto in Nashville. It has now been 30 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: fifteen days, and the left wing has been adroit. They've 31 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: been skilled, they've been incredibly well trained, and they have 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: turned in Nashville, my hometown. They have managed to turn 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: this crazy transshooter into a demic Republicans or racist argument. 34 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: That's what they've pivoted from. We still don't have the 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: trans shooter manifesto. Kamala Harris can travel to Nashville, won't 36 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: meet with the victims of the shooting because they don't 37 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: want to reinforce that this was a crazy trans shooter. Instead, 38 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris comes here and they try to say, oh, 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: all Tennessee Republicans are racist, right, that's the argument. Now, 40 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: to be fair, Tennessee Republicans did screw this thing up 41 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: when they didn't vote the crazy white chick out too. 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: They just voted the two black guys out, and the 43 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: crazy white chick survived by one vote. 44 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: Can we just also add to that that she begged 45 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: them not to expel her, and then the moment she 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: got her wish, she turned around and said, you who 47 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: failed to expel me did so because you are racist. 48 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: Just see, that is, in microcosm, what it is to 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: deal with a lib politician in America today. 50 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Please please, I beg you. 51 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 2: I want to keep my job. Fine, you weren't quite 52 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: as egregious as the others. You're letting me keep my 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: job out of racism, sir. That is what they did. 54 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: And if you fell for it, you're an imbecile. Frankly, 55 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: if you were one, Look if you wanted to say, hey, 56 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: on principle, I don't think we should be voting anybody 57 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: out in the Tennessee legislature. I don't think this makes sense. 58 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna vote against all three. Okay. I can see 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 1: that argument, because you kind of turned them into martyrs. 60 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: You can see that argument. But if you tried to 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: split the baby, and You're like, I'm gonna toss the 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: two black dudes out, but I'm gonna keep the white 63 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: chick who begged for forgiveness and then immediately went outside 64 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: had those crocodile tears, and then as soon as she 65 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: survived and wasn't kicked to the curb, she immediately said, oh, 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: it's racism. That's why I didn't get kicked to the curb. 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: You got played. You played yourself. And speaking of playing yourself, 68 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: this is one of the two expelled members of the 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Tennessee Democrat Party. I believe we have this audio all 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: cue up and ready to go, right. So he went 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: to Boden, which is a super elite problem with Boden 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: cost probably seventy five thousand dollars a year buck, I 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: mean probably tuition something like that. Yeah, it is one of. 74 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: The same conference as my school, AMers. Not as good 75 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: as Amherst, but it's pretty good. 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: So in Maine, it is the one of the richest 77 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: whitest schools historically on the East Coast. This guy went 78 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: to that school, all right, And he didn't just go 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: to that school. He ran for student body president and 80 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: guys I'm going to ask you to stop it if 81 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: we can. Right at the end of his this is 82 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: the same guy that was expelled that now is trying 83 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 1: to pretend like he's Malcolm X or Martin Luther King Junior. 84 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: Here he is, in twenty sixteen running for student body 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: president of this elite, super white, liberal rich kids school 86 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: in Maine. Listen, Dustin J. 87 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: Pierson, and I'm running for president of FSGS. There are 88 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 3: few reasons that we're this campaign this year. One has 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 3: to do with representation. Yea, how can we represent all 90 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 3: voices in a conversation. I wanted to do this by 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: parkering with organizations from the Boody Democrats to the Boden Republicans. 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 3: I want to bring together different voices, dissenting voices, voices 93 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: that may be more liberal and more conservative, in order 94 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: that we can reach a point of sort of. 95 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: The radical middle. Okay, pause, great job there, guys. That 96 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: is his campaign message Bowden Bowden might be pronounce it Boden. 97 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: All right, Boden. He wanted to be the student body president. 98 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: You need to watch the video that is twenty sixteen. 99 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: Here is this past weekend in a Nashville church. He 100 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: now has a monster Afro, same dude listen, seemed. 101 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: Like the Nreian god lobbyist might win. But oh that 102 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: was good news for us. I don't know how long 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: this Saturday in. 104 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: The state of Tennessee might last. But oh, we have 105 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: good news, folks. 106 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: We've got good news that Sunday always comes. 107 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: All right, now, I want to put him now back 108 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: to back. Now you heard him separated. This is the 109 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: same dude again, separated by seven years running for student 110 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: body president at his super white school in Maine that 111 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: costs seventy five thousand dollars a year, talking about how 112 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: he wants to bring everybody together. And then it's suddenly 113 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: like record scratch nineteen sixty five and he's Martin Luther 114 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: King Junior. Listen to the whole thing, Dustin J. 115 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 3: Pearson, and I'm running for president of FSG. There are 116 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: a few reasons that we're running this campaign this year. 117 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: One has to do with representation. Yeah, how can we 118 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: represent all voices in a conversation? I wanted to do 119 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: this by parkering with organizations from the booty Democrats to 120 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: the boon Republicans. I want to bring together different voices, 121 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: dissenting voices, voices that may be more liberal a more 122 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: conservative in order that we can reach a point of 123 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: sort of the radical middle. 124 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 4: Seemed like the NRA and God lobbyist might win. But 125 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 4: oh that was good news for us. I don't know 126 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: how long this Saturday in the state of Tennessee might last, 127 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 4: but oh, we have good news, folks, We have got 128 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: good news that Sunday always comes. 129 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: This reminds me buck of remember the movie eight Mile 130 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: when Eminem's going up against the other elite rapper and 131 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Eminem just takes all of me. He's a poor white kid, 132 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: literally eight Mile. And he points out that Clarence, if 133 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: I remember correctly was his name, went to Cranbrook, which 134 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: is the most exclusive and expensive private school in the 135 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Detroit area for anybody listening to us who grew up 136 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: in the Detroit area. And he just says Clarence went 137 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: to Cranbrook, and everybody just loses it because the guy 138 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: is a total poser, right he's and I wish we 139 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: could curse sometimes he's full of crap. He is pretending 140 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: to be but like a cosplay a really bad actor 141 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: that is trying to pretend like it's nineteen sixties in Tennessee. 142 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I get nervous if I say y'all that 143 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: people are going to think that I'm appropriated, you know, 144 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: but it is such a good confed. 145 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: Wife was super nervous because she's from Michigan. She's been 146 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: in Tennessee for twenty years, and I remember having a 147 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: conversation with her, when can I use the word y'all 148 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: and not sound like I'm a faker, right like? Not 149 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: sound like I'm the real thing? 150 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: Everybody, y'all is the is the best way to say 151 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: what you're trying to say. 152 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: Period. The most efficient is better than you all. 153 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: Yes, you guys is a very is a very I 154 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: think it's definitely Northeastern, Midwest, mid Atlantic and Western guys. Yeah, yeah, 155 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: you guys. You know, but we say you guys in 156 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: New York y'all makes a lot a lot more sense. 157 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 2: Or or if you're really a New Yorker manhattanite, you 158 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: might say all of you, but all of you is 159 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 2: quite a mouthful. 160 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: So I think we've got another great clip here too. 161 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: But because I always love seeing this too, and I 162 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: bet a lot of you are also having this reflection, 163 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: here is Hillary Clinton, who suddenly this is one of 164 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: the all time great. Like I'm gonna totally sound different 165 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: depending on what audience I'm talking to. Two thousand and seven, 166 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: here's Hillary Clinton from the Chicago area pretending that she's Southern. Listen, 167 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: I don't feel no ways tired. I come too far. 168 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: From where I started from. Nobody told me that the 169 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: road would be easy. I don't believe he brought me 170 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 4: this far. 171 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 3: To leave me. 172 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: I think we may have just violated the Geneva Convention 173 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: by playing that on the air, because I think we 174 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: actually used to use tapes of Hillary to, you know, 175 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: to torture prisoners to get information back in the day. 176 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: That was brutal. This is Southerners know, well, really bad 177 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: Southern accents, because you're trying to pretend that you talk 178 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: like us. Right, I'm born and raised in Nashville. I've 179 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: been around. Movies are filled with people with bad Southern accents. 180 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it, you know, as Southerners like you 181 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: watch them. There's two things that always happen. One, there's 182 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: a lot of really bad Southern accents. Two, every time 183 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: there's a movie set in the South, everybody swaying. Which really, 184 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: if you go back and watch like a time to kill. 185 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: It's as if air conditioning doesn't exist in Mississippi. Like 186 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: I've always never actually. 187 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: Covered I've never seen someone chewing on the long like 188 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: almost looks like a piece of wheat or something that 189 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, Yeah straw. 190 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 191 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: If they do this in movies all the time, I've 192 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: never actually seen this anywhere. 193 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: You know who was really good at that? By the way, 194 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: Fred Thompson rest in peace with former Tennessee senator, also 195 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: an actor, but other politicians used to complain because his 196 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: whole campaign was I'm just gonna get in a red 197 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: pickup truck and a drive around the state. And he 198 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: was a legitimate elite actor, but all of his commercials 199 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: he was phenomenal. Like I can't act. People are like, oh, 200 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, if you watch we used to do skits 201 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: for the sports gambling TV show that I would do 202 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: if you give me lines to recite, I am the 203 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: worst actor on the planet. Like they would all make 204 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: fun of me because we'd have a script and I'd 205 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: have to memorize lines and I couldn't do it. If 206 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: you just tell me exteporaneously, hey, just go act normal, 207 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: I can do it. I'm fine On TV but if 208 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: you tell me you have to deliver this, I can't 209 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: do it at all. A lot of these dudes are actors, right, 210 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's embarrassing if you're represented by that guy. 211 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean that is pretty pathetic. And if Saturday Night 212 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: Live was actually funny or made fun of left wingers, 213 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: this would be a gold mine. 214 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: Look, there are a lot of a lot of people 215 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: on the Democrat side have gotten away with very obvious 216 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 2: pandering and acts of you could call it, you know, 217 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: a personal fraudulents, right, I mean, pretending to be something 218 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: that they're not. We all remember, you know, John John 219 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: Kerry famously all of a sudden, I love shooting out 220 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: the ducks that go quack quack, and I'm you know, 221 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: I we had the butler gave me this wonderful shotgun 222 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: to use. 223 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: I borrowed it from him. 224 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he was the least man of the people, 225 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: man of the people you could ever see. And I 226 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: think one of the things, honestly, not to make this 227 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: a Trump conversation, one of the things about Trump that 228 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: people found so appealing is he's like, Yeah, I'm a 229 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 2: billionaire and I like cheeseburgers. And that's really you know, 230 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: you know McDonald's cheeseburgers, and that's really who I am. 231 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: And I do think that increasingly authenticity is an asset important. 232 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: But there are a lot of frauds. There are a 233 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: lot of frauds who get very very far in politics 234 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 2: to this day. And you know, I mean even I 235 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: mean Tucker has done a lot of talk on his 236 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: show about Alexandria Okazio Cortez was was Sandy Cortes and 237 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: then realized and you know, went to BEU, which was 238 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: at one point the most expensive school in America. It 239 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: was up there with GW. Yeah, yeah, right up there 240 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: at GW. And then all of a sudden we're being 241 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: told that she's from the Bronx. She had this heart No, 242 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 2: I mean, she you know, grew up in a household 243 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: with working professionals, who sent her to a seventy thousand 244 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: dollars a year university and I think it was Riverdale, 245 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,119 Speaker 2: which is actually a not just oh it's a fancy 246 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: part of New York, but it is in the Bronx. 247 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: So there's this interesting I think Tucker says she's from 248 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: Westchester anyway, but you see a lot of that, A 249 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: lot of people changing around their identity in a way 250 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: that is more suitable politically for them, because it makes 251 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: them seem like they're of the it's a false populism 252 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: is really what you're It makes them so just like you. 253 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: That clip is one of the funniest things that I've heard. 254 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean that that Look, this little Tennessee Rep. Whatever 255 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: his name is, I don't even know his name. That's funny. 256 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: But Hillary Clinton was legitimately convinced that she was going 257 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: to be the first woman president of the United States, 258 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: and that is the most insulting. Like there's a a 259 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: bad Southern accent. She has a bad Southern accent, and 260 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: then she tries to speak in like Southern black vernacular, 261 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: which is even more awkward and ridiculous. I would just 262 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: have run I mean, I feel like if you just 263 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: ran that clip anywhere in the South, like, she would 264 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: not win a single Southern state because it's you can't 265 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: look any more inauthentic and that, dude, I mean, it's 266 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: just it's it's pathetic. And it also raises the question why, 267 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: and this is a good one for all of you 268 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: out there, why do so many Democrats want to pretend 269 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: it's still nineteen fifty four or nineteen sixty five, why 270 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: they want the mantle of the civil rights movement when 271 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: you've got all the rights you could possibly need. 272 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: Because their mindset is that they don't have to engage 273 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: with the other side or deal with even facts of reality, 274 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: because they stand in a position of moral righteousness from 275 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: the start that is both unassailable and unquestionable. And so 276 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,359 Speaker 2: that's why they love the nineteen sixties civil rights positioning 277 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, because it's how dare you? We're 278 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: the ones that are saving the country, and we sit 279 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: around saying, I don't know, pretty sure transgender surgery for 280 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: ten year olds is not actually saving anything, and it's 281 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 2: pretty horrible. 282 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: And I don't think MLK would have been like, hey, 283 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: you know what, I really hope that one day we 284 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: can live in America where fourteen year olds chop their 285 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: boobs off. 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We've been 308 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: looking forward to talking to her ever since the incident 309 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: at uc San Francisco last week where she was mobbed 310 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: by transactivists and physically assaulted. We're going to talk to 311 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 2: her about legal action she I believe is taking and 312 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: we want to get into those details. So make sure 313 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: you stay with us here for just a few more minutes. 314 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 2: Riley Gaines will be with us, as you remember, she's 315 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: the best female swimmer in the nation in her event 316 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: what was it last year in the NCAA. So we'll 317 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: talk to her about what it's like to go speak 318 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: about women's sports for women at colleges in an era 319 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: of transactivist madness. Also, Clay, we've got some very interesting 320 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 2: International Pet Day submissions already, including to our VIP email 321 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: at clayanbuck dot com. We have a bearded dragon that 322 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: somebody in the audience has, but we do have an 323 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: important fact check here. It turns out it is a 324 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 2: heal a monster and not no, you don't have a 325 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 2: hard g on that one. It's a heal a monster, 326 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: but I believe they are venomous. 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Welcome 352 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: back in Clay Travis, buck Sexton show. Appreciate all of 353 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. We are joined now by 354 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: former University of Kentucky women's swimmer Riley Gains. She swam 355 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: against Leah Thomas aka will Thomas, the man from the 356 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: University of Pennsylvania who decided to become a woman and 357 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: compete in women's athletics. She was just speaking out at 358 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco State University where a mob of Heckler's attacked 359 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: her and physically assaulted her and kept her locked up 360 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: in a room. She is brave, she is fearless. She 361 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: is fighting for women's sports, and she also, I believe, 362 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: is like me from the Nashville area. Riley, appreciate the time. 363 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: How are you? 364 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 5: Of course, I'm doing good and I am from the 365 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: national area, not too far from you. 366 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. All right. So, for people out there 367 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: who have not seen the viral video and have not 368 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: experienced what happened to you, take us into that speech 369 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: at San Francisco State University, the reaction to it, your experience, 370 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: and what has happened since. 371 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 5: Absolutely so, I was invited to San Francisco State to 372 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 5: give a speech on protecting women's sports, which is what 373 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 5: I've been doing this past year, highlighting what it takes 374 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 5: to get to that top level. Of course, what my 375 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 5: experience in competing against Lea Thomas looked like, not just 376 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 5: for myself, but for my teammates, for the other girls 377 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 5: at that meet, what the locker room piece looked like, 378 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 5: the silencing and the suppressing of our voices that our 379 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 5: coaches and our administrators participated in after the fact. And 380 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 5: I just explained why why putting Title nine at risk 381 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 5: is harmful to women and why it deserves to be protected. 382 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 5: I get. 383 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 1: Many pro go ahead, go ahead, sorry, go ahead, No sorry. 384 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 5: I was just gonna say. Gave the speech. There were 385 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 5: many protesters in the room, and it went relatively peaceful 386 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 5: until afterwards. That's when a mob stormed in. They turned 387 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 5: the lights, they flickered the lights, they stormed, They rushed me, 388 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 5: they pushed me to the podium. There was lots of 389 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 5: pushing and shoving and hitting, and then I a cop 390 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 5: came up, which I was supposed to meet with the 391 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 5: campus police an hour and a half before the event, 392 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 5: and they never showed up. And so I wasn't even 393 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 5: aware there was a cop in the room, but she 394 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: eventually escorted me out of the room, to which in 395 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 5: the hallway was just filled with more people, and we 396 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 5: ultimately got pushed into another classroom in the hallway, where 397 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 5: we were barricaded for three hours. 398 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: Riley, So you were just so everyone's very clear on this, 399 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: you were physically assaulted. 400 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: You were a hit someone someone attacked you. Is that correct? 401 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 5: Correct? 402 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: And was it a was it a transgender individual or 403 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: just one of the activists or you know, was it 404 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 2: basically were you assaulted by a man? 405 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 5: To my knowledge, yes, again the lights were flickering, but 406 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 5: I believe this was a man dressed as a woman. 407 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: So you were attacked, but to your belief, to your knowledge, 408 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 2: you certainly were attacked, were attacked by what you believe 409 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: is a man dressed as a woman. I'm very curious, 410 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: and first of all, this is this is just horrifying. 411 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: You know, the whole incident. We saw it on video. 412 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: So I think that at least people have some awareness 413 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: of what a shrieking bunch of lunatics the protesters, you know, 414 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 2: quote protests, there's really a small riot. It was what 415 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: you faced. What were the police saying to you during 416 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: this and why didn't the police pull out pepper spray? 417 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: I mean that's a standard for a crowd control situation 418 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 2: like that. I mean people that are gathering around you, 419 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: assaulting you, these sorts of things. Pepper spray would seem 420 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: to be right within law enforcement escalation of tactics. 421 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 5: Absolutely, you would think that that would be necessary. But 422 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 5: these police, to be totally honest, granted they were campus police, 423 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 5: but they were terrified to do their job, to which 424 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 5: they pretty openly admitted. They didn't want to be accused 425 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 5: of being racists. A lot of the protesters when they 426 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 5: were bare in the room, of course, I could hear 427 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 5: them behind the door screaming, you're just protecting that white 428 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 5: girl because she's white. These police were put in a 429 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: position where they didn't want to risk their job. They 430 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 5: didn't want to be seen as anything other than an 431 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 5: ally to that community, and so it did hinder their performance. 432 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 5: I missed my flight home. I was supposed to fly 433 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 5: home that evening, but because the police couldn't safely evacuate 434 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 5: me from the building, I missed my flight. These protesters 435 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 5: they were demanding money from me if I wanted to 436 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: make it home safely, and the police did nothing. They 437 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 5: were negotiating with the Dean of students about my safe 438 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 5: passage home, and I couldn't believe they were negotiating this, 439 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: like this is something we were genuinely having a discussion about. 440 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 2: Wait, wait when you say negotiating, like, what did that? 441 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: What do you mean like take us into that specific 442 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: What did that sound like? 443 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 5: From my side of the door, I could hear them talking. 444 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 5: You know, they were saying, well, Riley got paid to 445 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: be here, so why shouldn't we get paid if we 446 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 5: want to let her leave. First of all, the university 447 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 5: did not pay me to be there. That is not 448 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 5: true at all by any means. Yet they felt as 449 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: if they were entitled to reparations just from a conservative 450 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 5: speaker being on campus. 451 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you were there three hours. They kept you 452 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: inside of a barricaded classroom for three hours. 453 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 5: Yes, the whole three hours, yelling violent, obscene, terrible, awesome 454 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 5: things to both myself and the officers. They were screaming, 455 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 5: if you didn't want to smoke, you shouldn't have come 456 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 5: to this University trans writes are under attack. What do 457 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 5: we do we fight back? I mean, It's kind of 458 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 5: chilling to think about what they would have done to 459 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 5: me had someone not been able to step in, because 460 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 5: there was no way I could have safely removed myself 461 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 5: from the situation. I was totally stormed and surrounded, and 462 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 5: so it does kind of put you in fear for 463 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 5: your life in the moment a little bit. You have 464 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 5: no idea how unhinged these people really can be until 465 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 5: you see it with your own eyes and they're coming 466 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: at you. 467 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: I just want to be clear. What they found so 468 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: unacceptable was that you said men should compete against men 469 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: in sports and women should compete against women in sports, 470 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: and basically that biology is real and there are two genders. 471 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: The people on that campus found that to be totally 472 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: unacceptable for you to share and maybe for people out 473 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: there who might not have experienced your story. This comes 474 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: out of your experience in swimming against a man, and 475 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: as you said, so few women athletes, including now Megan 476 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: Rapino and Sue Byrd, are even willing to stand up 477 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: and say women should compete against women and men should 478 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: compete against men. 479 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a trans man stole the national championship 480 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: from Riley in her event effectively, right, that's what happened 481 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: at the NCAA finals. We're speaking of Riley Gaines. For 482 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: anyone who's joining us in progress here about what happened 483 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: at San Francisco State University last week. Riley, So you're 484 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: not what it was? The response? After all this happened, 485 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: So now we know what the incident was like. After 486 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: all this happens, Did a university take any disciplinary action 487 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 2: against any students? Has anyone been expelled? 488 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 6: No? 489 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 5: The university doubled down by saying they were proud of 490 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 5: their brave students, literally word for word, they said, it 491 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 5: can be very hard to have someone who so egregious 492 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 5: come to campus and speak, and it takes tremendous bravery 493 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 5: to stand in this challenging space. And we're so proud 494 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 5: of the moments where we listened and we asked insightful questions, 495 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,719 Speaker 5: and we're proud of the students who demonstrated the value 496 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 5: of free speech and the value to protest peacefully. We 497 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 5: must do a different definition of peaceful, because what I 498 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 5: experience was by no means peaceful. 499 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: Why do you think so many women athletes are afraid 500 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: to say what you are saying? And I want to 501 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: go back again, specifically because you tweeted about him earlier. 502 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: Megan Rapino and Sue Bird. Meghan Rapino is an elite 503 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: women's soccer player, Sue Bird an elite basketball player women's 504 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: basketball player. They're both saying, oh, we're opposed to the 505 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: idea of preventing trans athletes, that is, men identifying as 506 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: women from competing in their sport. That's almost basically endorsing 507 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: the erasure of women's athletes from women's athletics. What are 508 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: they thinking in your mind? Why are they saying that, 509 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: and why are you out there, in many ways on 510 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: an island making the arguments that you are. 511 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 5: Well to be totally frank, people are scared because look 512 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 5: at what just happened to me for saying something as 513 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: simple as men and women are different. That easy, right, 514 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 5: that common sense, Yet I was still ambushed. No one 515 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 5: wants that to happen to them. No one wants to 516 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 5: be labeled as transphobic. Of course, people would rather like 517 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 5: Megan Rappino and like Schubert and like Billy Jean King, 518 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 5: who were trailblazers for women's sports, So of course it's ironic, 519 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 5: but they want to be seen as inclusive and kind 520 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 5: and accepting and welcoming and loving and all of the things, which, 521 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 5: of course, who doesn't want to be seen as those things? 522 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 5: News flash, it's not inclusive to allow men to take 523 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 5: a podium spot from a woman. It's exclusive. And it's 524 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 5: not kind to allow a male equipped with male genitalia 525 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 5: to change in a locker room with girls. That's not kind, 526 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 5: that's not inclusive. And like I mentioned, the double standard here, 527 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 5: these are women who fought relentlessly. Megan Rapino in particular, 528 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 5: she fought for equal pay and equal access and equal 529 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 5: resources for women. But now I'm realizing it was a 530 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 5: sense of faux feminism, because when you're fighting to have 531 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 5: really for Title nine to be taken down so men 532 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 5: can compete on women's teams, it's hypocrisy. 533 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: Riley, I just want to ask you before before we 534 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: finish up. Are you well? 535 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Clay also has a follow up, but do you plan 536 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: on taking legal action against the college, against the university, 537 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: against any of the individuals. I mean, they very clearly. 538 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: I'm not a lawyer, Clay is they very clearly broke 539 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: the law. 540 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 5: Though we all know that absolutely, I definitely intend to 541 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 5: if nothing else is send a message because when is 542 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 5: enough enough. We've gotten to the point where there are 543 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: no repercussions, there are no consequences for acting out in 544 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: this manner. But I've had enough. It has reached enough 545 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 5: for me, and so I will be pursuing some sort 546 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: of legal action to hold someone accountable, whether that's the university, 547 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: the campus police, the individuals themselves. There needs to be 548 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 5: a message since. 549 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: Last question for you and thank you for speaking out. 550 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: You can follow Riley on Twitter. We'll be sharing this 551 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: interview so you guys can can find that as well. 552 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: Dylan mulvaney is a man pretending to be a woman. 553 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: Nike gave him a sports bra endorsement deal and a 554 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: women's leggings endorsement deal. I'm just curious. Has anyone been 555 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: they said he's for living his life. Has anyone at 556 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: Nike reached out to you and asked you if you 557 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 1: would like a women's apparel deal? 558 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 6: Oh goodness, no, And I don't anticipate that, But I 559 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 6: don't know if they can understand the mockery of what 560 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 6: this makes of women, especially the video of Dylan, I guess, 561 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 6: portraying what he thinks women look like when we work 562 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 6: out doing jumping Jackson doing different. 563 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 5: Things that is so incredibly degrading. And for Nike to 564 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 5: take this stance, they can forget getting my money. And 565 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 5: I've talked to a lot of female athletes who agree 566 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 5: with exactly everything I just said. 567 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: Riley Gaines fighting the fight. We appreciate you, we appreciate 568 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: your bravery. We're sorry about what happened to you. A 569 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: lot of the guys in particular, and I'm sure a 570 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: lot of ladies and this audience wish we had been 571 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: there to be able to help you out under the circumstances. 572 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: But please keep speaking out and come back on the 573 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 2: show whenever you want. 574 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 5: Awesome, sound fantastic. 575 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much, thanks for being with us, 576 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: my friends. 577 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: With Biden being the most pro abortion president in history 578 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: and quite the firestorm going on in the courts over 579 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 2: what's referred to as the abortion pill, how do we 580 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: protect the unborn lives of babies? 581 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: One way? 582 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: Really can help support the work being done at Preborn's 583 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: network of clinics nationwide. 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That you didn't here on the show, 603 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: get podcast extras in the Klay and Buck podcast feet 604 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: find it on the iheartapp or wherever you get your podcasts. 605 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 606 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: You know we were just talking off Airic Clay and 607 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: I about the really powerful conversation just now with Riley Gaines. 608 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: Who was she a Was it backstroke? Was that her 609 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 2: event or butterfly? I can't remember. 610 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm not an expert in the swimming world, 611 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: but I think she did. I think you do a 612 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: lot of them, but she was one of the She's 613 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: an elite women swimmer for the University of Kentucky. 614 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 6: Uh. 615 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: And she lost because I think you got to keep 616 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: telling the story of how she ended up as a 617 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: spokesperson here. She lost to Leah Thomas, a dude, and 618 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: then there was the picture of her on the stand 619 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: standing next to six foot three man, and it was like, 620 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: it's clearly unfair. 621 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: It's so important because one of the ways they really 622 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: are dishonest in this debate and argument is they play 623 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: this game of either it doesn't happen that much, but 624 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: that's getting harder and harder for them as this happens 625 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: more and more, and they push it more and more 626 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: with sponsors and ad campaigns and everything else for the 627 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: transagenda in sports or just in general. But also they say, 628 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: what's the big deal? Who's harmed by this? Well, g 629 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: if if I had been and you know, I'm far 630 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: from this, an elite, near Olympian level athlete who had 631 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 2: been swimming in a pool as a young girl since 632 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: age four, And this is my crowning moment and achievement 633 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: to get a gold medal in the NCAA Championships and 634 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 2: I'm given silver. 635 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: This is what happened to Riley Gaines. 636 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 2: She gets the silver medal, not the gold medal, because 637 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 2: a dude wanted to pretend to be a woman for 638 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 2: that meet. 639 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: That is what happened. 640 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: So there are people that pay a real cost, and 641 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: people say, oh, it's really not Let's just destroy all merit, 642 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 2: all good things, all achievement, all beauty. Let's just tear 643 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: it all down because the left is having a tantrum. 644 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: Leah Thomas won the five hundred Women's Championship and then 645 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: was nominated by the University of Pennsylvania for Woman of 646 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: the Year in the NCUBA. It's crazy And I just 647 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: want to emphasize that last question I asked of her 648 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: for all of you out there listening. First of all, 649 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: Buck's right when people say, well, why do you care? 650 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: She didn't choose this battle. This battle chose her because 651 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: she went head to head against a male swimmer in 652 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: an NCAA championship, so she actually experienced how unfair this is. 653 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: And I just want to emphasize that last question that 654 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: I asked her because I think it goes straight to 655 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: the essence of this. Look at what Nike is selling 656 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: to girls out there. Nike is trying to sell to girls. Hey, 657 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: look at this dude where wearing a sports bra. Look 658 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: at this dude wearing women's pants. He's so brave. This 659 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: is who we want to put on a pedestal for 660 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: little girls to look up to and emulate. And they 661 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't even consider signing Riley Gaines to a contract. Who 662 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: is more courageous? Who would you rather your little girls 663 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: and granddaughters emulate? A fearless women's college swimmer who sees 664 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: something wrong and is willing to speak out on it, 665 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: not just on her own behalf, but on the behalf 666 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 1: of all women athletes. Or a dude who is pretending 667 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: to be a girl. Because Nike is telling you they 668 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 1: want your daughters and granddaughters looking up to a man 669 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: with a penis and no boobs who is trying to 670 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: sell them women athletic gear and tell me that that 671 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: isn't a fundamentally perfect metaphor of how broken our society 672 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: has become. To me, Riley Gaines's true courage, true bravery 673 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: speaking out and recognized how few people in women's athletics 674 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: are willing to speak out on her behalf. How few 675 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: feminists who claim to care about women. As you pointed 676 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: out when that interview buck, she got attacked by a man, 677 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: physically assaulted, they kept her locked in a room for 678 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: three hours. Has Nancy Pelosi spoken out, it's her district. 679 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: Has Kamala Harris spoken out, she's the vice president. Has 680 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: Joe Biden said a word about how inappropriate this attack is? 681 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: Of course, not think about why they're being silent and 682 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: what message we are sending to your kids, to your 683 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 1: daughters and granddaughters. Con of here, in a couple of minutes, 684 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk about how the flagship Whole Food store in 685 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: San fran got shut down when you hear about what 686 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: was going on there. But the mayor of San Francisco, 687 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: London breed. She wants you to know that this is 688 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: all kind of being misrepresented San Francisco. She's doing a 689 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: great job with the city. Oh we'll talk about it,