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Speaker 2: A talk about war.

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Speaker 1: Not just war in modern America, war in our modern era.

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Speaker 1: Historically, war is terrible for those who actually have to

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Speaker 1: This is not well our military industrial complex here in America.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yet we have one of those.

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Speaker 1: We can discuss that at length, but historically, you can

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Speaker 1: War involves the massive exchange of money. This is going

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Speaker 1: Today it was announced that we are allowing Ukraine to

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Speaker 1: NBC News released a doozy over the weekend. I just

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you exactly what they should be worried about.

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Speaker 4: They should be worried about impossible violation of eighteen US Code,

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Speaker 2: What is this? Is this going to derail and what's

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Speaker 5: So this has been going on for a long time.

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Speaker 4: This is ultimately the predicated for Matt Gays and Ken

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Speaker 4: I think it misunderstands what Donald Trump is looking for.

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Speaker 4: He's looking for a for an arch loyalist who can

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Speaker 4: He's a private citizen at this point. Just like me

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Speaker 4: This is actually one of my favorite picks Donal Trump

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Speaker 4: this time. But he is also an outsider. He is

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, the guy has served his country

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Speaker 5: I think he's the perfect pick. Frankly. I hope he

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Speaker 1: Will tell me finally, Josh. About these recess appointments, there's

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Speaker 4: So the recess appointment's power is a power in the

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Speaker 4: there's no reason whatsoever not to go for it now

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Speaker 4: if you really want to get in the weeds. There

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Speaker 4: is a legal dispute as to what actually constitutes a

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Speaker 4: valid recess appointment. There's not a whole lot of Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court case on this. There was one case from ten

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Speaker 4: years ago called NRB versus Canning. There was an answer

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Speaker 4: and Schlee opinion that suggests that is actually a slightly

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Speaker 4: narrower power than you and I are talking about right now.

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Speaker 5: I say, if.

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Speaker 4: That's what it comes to, let's do it. Let's tee

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Speaker 4: it up with the court and see what they say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Josh, thank you. My brother appreciate

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Speaker 1: it all right. Our FK Junior is going to be involved,

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Speaker 1: heavily involved. Jeffrey A. Tucker knows r FK Junior. Well,

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Speaker 1: what can we expect?

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Speaker 2: Is he just a quack.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to Jeffrey about that in a moment. Before

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Speaker 1: we talk to him, let me talk to you about

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Speaker 1: going to sleep at night. Sleep can be hard to

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Speaker 1: come by sometimes, right, and so what do we do?

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Speaker 2: We take something?

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Speaker 1: Everyone has that thing, but I've never been able to

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Speaker 1: take anything to sleep, because everything I've ever taken to sleep, oh,

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Speaker 1: it'll put me out, and then I'll sleep for like

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Speaker 1: fifteen hours and I'll still wake up and just feel

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Speaker 1: like death, just so tired and groggy. Dream Powder from

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Speaker 1: Beam is the only thing I've ever taken to sleep

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Speaker 1: in my life where I wake up in the morning

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Speaker 1: and I feel we're fresh and great, and it's a

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Speaker 1: cup of hot chocolate. It's all natural, it's drug free.

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Speaker 1: It's all natural stuff, melatonin and things like that.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Go get some dream powder from Beam and sleep like

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Speaker 1: a little baby.

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Speaker 2: Every night and wake up feeling good. That's the best part.

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Speaker 1: Shopbeam dot com. Slash Jesse Kelly, We'll be back. One

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Speaker 1: of the more interesting developments, at least more interesting developments

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Speaker 1: to me over the past few months has been the

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Speaker 1: marrying of the Trump.

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Speaker 2: RFK junior worlds Now.

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Speaker 1: When I say marrying, I mean this RFK Junior appears to.

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Speaker 2: Be in there, in there now.

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Speaker 1: When RFK Junior dropped out and back Trump, I was

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Speaker 1: not surprised. No one who knows politics was surprised, because

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Speaker 1: Democrats treated him so poorly, like a pariah. Of course

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Speaker 1: he was going to go to the guy who wasn't

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Speaker 1: trying to destroy his life.

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Speaker 2: So that made sense.

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Speaker 1: That didn't shock me, didn't shock you, didn't shock anybody.

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Speaker 2: But that Trump has.

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Speaker 1: Really, really apparently leaned on him for a bunch of

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Speaker 1: this make America healthy against stuff and now is giving

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Speaker 1: him a critical role ahead of AJHS.

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Speaker 2: I'm floored and I'm thrilled. Don't get wrong, but I'm floored.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about the whole thing. I bet Jeffrey A.

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Speaker 1: Tucker is joining me now founder and president at the

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Speaker 1: Brownstone Institute, mister Tucker himself. Okay, Jeffrey, could you explain

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Speaker 1: to me how these two went from being here to

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Speaker 1: like this?

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Speaker 2: Were you asking the right question?

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Speaker 7: It all happened so quickly and the course of what

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Speaker 7: sixty days or something like that. So the big picture

501
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Speaker 7: here is that we've had disparate movements growing really since

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Speaker 7: the end of the Cold War. We had the Tea

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Speaker 7: Party movement. Then we had the Occupy Wall Street movement,

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Speaker 7: and then we had the whole foods movement of the

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Speaker 7: crunchy liberals who don't like chemicals and food. Then we

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Speaker 7: had the anti pharmaceutical power movements that were very skeptical

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Speaker 7: of you know, the forced injections for the for their children.

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Speaker 2: They think, what else?

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Speaker 7: Uh, the you know, the the Jesse Jackson you know style,

510
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Speaker 7: where's our peace dividend? After the end of the Cold

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Speaker 7: War movement? You know, And and then then you had

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Speaker 7: this migration problem.

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Speaker 2: So there's all this.

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Speaker 7: Oh, and then you had the people who really want

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Speaker 7: free enterprise back, and you know, the anti regulation crowd

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Speaker 7: and the anti tax movement, all these disparate movements out there,

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Speaker 7: but they were all occupied, you know, sort of different sectors,

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Speaker 7: right and just like somewhere on the left, some are

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Speaker 7: on the right. And people were screaming about this and

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Speaker 7: screaming about that, and and and and.

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Speaker 2: It was COVID.

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Speaker 7: It was the COVID years where we're there was a

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Speaker 7: gradual realization that were kind of all on the same side.

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Speaker 7: We're all fighting the same kind of ruling class establishment

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Speaker 7: that had embedded itself in the administrative state, in these

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Speaker 7: sort of captured agencies that were working very tightly with

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Speaker 7: a corporative system. And once people started talking to each other,

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Speaker 7: and that really happened after the COVID years, and people said,

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Speaker 7: what the heck was that where my friends and our

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Speaker 7: communities were shattered, a lot of people moved, and new

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Speaker 7: groups came together, and they were built up. The left

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Speaker 7: and the right historically understood in those terms, and they

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Speaker 7: all realized at the same time they had sort of

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Speaker 7: common cause and again common enemies. And it's funny to

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Speaker 7: me that these movements had developed separately. Oh I should

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Speaker 7: add in there the homeschooling movement right, which was fired

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Speaker 7: up as a result of the lockdowns. And they're religious

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Speaker 7: freedom people who were furious about the closure of their

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Speaker 7: their churches. And the free speech movement, which has actually

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Speaker 7: been traditionally considered on the sort of civil libertarian left right.

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Speaker 7: So all and now confronting this censorship beast. So once

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Speaker 7: the enemies all came together with the COVID controls, I said, okay,

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Speaker 7: we're your new totalitarian masters.

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Speaker 2: You're a central you're non essential.

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Speaker 7: You can't go to the hospital, you take your fourth shot,

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Speaker 7: don't speak, you can't use social media, your business is closed. No,

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Speaker 7: you can't travel, right, I mean, once all this happened,

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Speaker 7: the full wickedness of the biosecurity technocratic state was on display,

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Speaker 7: and then in our homes, telling us, you know how

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Speaker 7: many people we can have for parties and whether we

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Speaker 7: can have weddings and funerals and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: And then that was followed by.

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Speaker 7: Indescribably weird movements concerning transgender where people are denying fundamental

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Speaker 7: points of biology that have been accepted since the beginning

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Speaker 7: of time. That's what brought everybody together. We just realized, look,

556
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Speaker 7: we've got some kind of strange hegemonic goliath controlling us,

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Speaker 7: and whatever our differences are, we can work them out

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Speaker 7: provided we have freedom, you know, and that freedom consists

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Speaker 7: of free speech, health freedom, food freedom, lower taxes, enterprise freedom,

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Speaker 7: freedom of religion, freedom of schooling, and all those movements

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Speaker 7: just suddenly at the same time realized their common interest

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Speaker 7: and pow, just like it was like nineteen eighty nine

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Speaker 7: in Eastern Europe. Suddenly it all just kind of came

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Speaker 7: together in such a short period of time, you know,

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Speaker 7: like forty five days, sixty days, something like that, and

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Speaker 7: it united with Maga and now we call it Maha,

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Speaker 7: Doge and Maga.

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Speaker 2: Those are the three pieces.

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Speaker 7: And we have you know, the Five of Avengers and

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Speaker 7: all the names we we recognize now and they've become

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Speaker 7: folk heros. But it all just sort of culminated on Tuesday,

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Speaker 7: election Day in November twenty twenty four, and it looks

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Speaker 7: for all the world like darn close to a revolutionary

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Speaker 7: situation where this is not just It doesn't seem like

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Speaker 7: it's going to be a typical cosmetic change the Clinton,

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Speaker 7: the Bushes and the Obamas and you know, so it

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Speaker 7: doesn't seem like that at all. It seems like something

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Speaker 7: really foundational and explosive because all these disparate groups have

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Speaker 7: gotten together and they're creating something entirely new.

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Speaker 1: You were supportive of OURFK Junior vocally, very vocally, very

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Speaker 1: early on. So you know, the man a lot better

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Speaker 1: than I do, a lot better than most people do.

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Speaker 1: As head of AHHS, I know there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of jokes out there about how he's going to fix

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Speaker 1: McDonald's fries and things like that, But as AJHS, what

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Speaker 1: is realistic?

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Speaker 7: What can he do? What will he do well? I

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Speaker 7: wish I could answer that. I've never been head of

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Speaker 7: hh US, and I don't know what kind of things

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Speaker 7: he's going to confront, But you know what they're counting on,

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Speaker 7: what Vivek and Elon and Tulsea Gabbart and and Trump

592
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Speaker 7: and our care all counting on is that they're going

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Speaker 7: to sort of connect, catch this wave of public support

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Speaker 7: and make foundational structural changes. And if that's true, you've

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Speaker 7: really got to depend on a kind of I don't

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Speaker 7: know how to put it, but like a sense of

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Speaker 7: demoralization from the incumbent structures that have ruled us for

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Speaker 7: so many decades. And it seems like that might actually

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Speaker 7: be happening. In that case, all the usual barriers might just,

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Speaker 7: in a surprising way, just melt melt away. I was

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Speaker 7: talking to somebody the other day who said, I don't

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Speaker 7: if you said something like, I don't think you understand

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Speaker 7: the whole Washington is sat up, established and sort of

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Speaker 7: rigged to stop exactly this kind of revolutionary fervor. The

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00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 7: whole system is designed to eat ideals and destroy reformers

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Speaker 7: and domesticate, you know, and house train, you know, anybody

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Speaker 7: who walks into the into the layer of the centers

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Speaker 7: of power and forgetting who was that was telling me this,

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Speaker 7: and that, you know, he's very doubtful that anything real

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Speaker 7: can happen. I'm not of that view, just because there

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Speaker 7: are moments in history where things come together, you know,

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Speaker 7: the American Revolution, the French Revolution is seventeen eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, for that.

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Speaker 7: Matter, you know, the Russian Revolution and so on. There

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Speaker 7: are revolutionary stages in history. We think, because we're an industrialized,

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Speaker 7: you know, advanced superpower with democratic institutions and all these

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Speaker 7: stable administrative state agencies, that that can't happen to us,

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Speaker 7: that revolution is impossible here. But I'm not so sure.

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Speaker 7: We're waiting to see. And from what I can tell

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Speaker 7: from listening to these people, I'm talking to people they

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Speaker 7: have been working Mega in particular, it's been working for

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Speaker 7: four years to plot this return. They are very aware

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Speaker 7: of what happened in the first term, you know, they've

624
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Speaker 7: had four years to study it, lay out their plans,

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Speaker 7: examine it like Cistercian wrk monks, you know, and solitude,

626
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 7: looking at the books and figuring out who the players

627
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Speaker 7: are and plotting their attack. And now they come together

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Speaker 7: with some extremely smart people INVEC and Elon and Tulsey

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Speaker 7: and especially RFK, who's written too ferocious, incredible books on

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Speaker 7: the COVID years that are filled with footnotes that make outrageous,

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Speaker 7: shocking as about what actually happened to us, and nobody's

632
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 7: ever taken him to a task for this book that

633
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 7: nobody's ever challenged his footnotes toward his claims. And so

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00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 7: they know what's going on, and they're spending the next

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Speaker 7: sixty days or so trying to educate the public about

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Speaker 7: what they know and what they're going to do, with

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00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 7: very detailed, methodical plans for how they're going to.

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Speaker 2: Get out of it.

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Speaker 7: And I'm persuaded that they this is not just the

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00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 7: usual redd surrounding a transition. They're really planning major disruptions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they sure seem to be, and I'm excited. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey, thank you so much. As always, I appreciate you, sir.

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Speaker 1: It does He really nailed it when he said it

644
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: feels totally different than anything I've ever experienced, even from

645
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: Trump's first term. I mean, you have swamp rats that

646
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: are going to go in there, and if they change,

647
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: all the Democrats swamp rats and Republican swamp rats, but

648
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: they all kind of just believe the same things and

649
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: do the same things. I've never seen anything different really

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Speaker 1: until now. And you know me, it's the cynical me

651
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Speaker 1: I would tell.

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Speaker 2: You, But I am hopeful.

653
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Speaker 1: Anyway, Look, maybe we should be thankful in many ways

654
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: for the corruption and big pharma and all that stuff,

655
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Speaker 1: because it's helped us to seek out better, better things

656
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Speaker 1: like Chalk. It helped us seek out things like Chalk.

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Speaker 8: There's obviously a lot of soul searching right now going

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Speaker 8: But what I worry about is that in the course

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Speaker 8: of all that soul searching, some Democrats might reach the

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Speaker 8: stuck out to me is transgender rights. Look, reflection is good,

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Speaker 8: but if that were actually an issue at thousands of

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Speaker 8: schools across the country, it would be worthy of a debate.

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Speaker 8: But there are just incredibly few examples of transgender girls

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Speaker 8: playing in new sports, and when we see those examples,

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Speaker 8: there is an evidence that these kids are a threat

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Speaker 8: to safety your fairness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, before we get to doctor Ross,

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Speaker 1: who's awesome, let me just be perfectly clear about this.

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Speaker 2: If there was even one case of.

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Speaker 1: A child being legally mutilated by his doctor in this country,

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Speaker 1: it would be a big deal. If there was one case,

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Speaker 1: that's a big, big deal. But it's not only one.

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Speaker 1: Of course, they're doing what they always do, and that's

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Speaker 1: lie about it. Joining me now, doctor Jared Ross, senior

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Speaker 1: fellow of Do No Harm. Hey, doctor jen Psaki says

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Speaker 1: it's only it's only a few.

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Speaker 2: Is it only a few?

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Speaker 9: Jesse, Thanks so much for having me. It's it's not

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Speaker 9: a few. They've been saying this for a long time,

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Speaker 9: and that's why we created this database to stop the

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Speaker 9: harm database to quantify exactly how big this issue was,

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Speaker 9: and what we found is very concerning nearly fourteen thousand

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Speaker 9: children receiving sex change treatments and nearly six thousand child

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Speaker 9: sex change surgeries.

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Speaker 1: God have mercy? Okay, where where did you dig up

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Speaker 1: this data? How's this data compiled?

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Speaker 9: So we were able to get access to insurance claims

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Speaker 9: records from a five year period from twenty nineteen to

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty three and then refined down over fifty billion claims.

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Speaker 9: There of course, we had no access to any personally

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Speaker 9: identifiable information about these children. We re find that data

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Speaker 9: down looking at transgender diagnoses and then looked at these

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Speaker 9: cross sex foremone and puberty blocker prescriptions, and then also

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Speaker 9: looked at these mutilative surgeries that are being performed on

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Speaker 9: innocent children.

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Speaker 1: Doctor, as you dug into this, I know you didn't

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Speaker 1: have personal information, but did you have the sex of

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Speaker 1: the patient? I am curious as who's most at risk

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Speaker 1: of all this crap?

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Speaker 9: You know, Jesse, it's a great question. Unfortunately, we see

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Speaker 9: that our data is contaminated. We see that these medical

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Speaker 9: institutions are actually submitting the incorrect gender marker sex marker

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Speaker 9: for these children sometimes, so we really don't know the

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Speaker 9: biological sex of these children. Sometimes they submit male, sometimes

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Speaker 9: they submit female, even on the same same patient ID.

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Speaker 1: You did release a list of the hospitals who are

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Speaker 1: the worst offenders.

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Speaker 9: Yes, so we've got our dirty dozen list of children's hospitals.

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Speaker 9: The top of that list is the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia,

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Speaker 9: which ironically goes by the abbreviation CHOP. And after that

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Speaker 9: it's Connecticut's Connecticut Children's and Children's Minnesota. And the full

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Speaker 9: list is on our database website, Stop Theharm Database dot com.

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Speaker 1: Doctor these hospitals, at least not all of them, but

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Speaker 1: most of them appear to be in these hardcore blue

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Speaker 1: areas where they're protected, frankly from the government. What can

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Speaker 1: we do about it? Can we do anything? Or do

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Speaker 1: we just have to sit back and watch.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we see our top four states as being Oregon, California,

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Speaker 9: New York, and Washington State. And we do know that

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Speaker 9: a lot of states have taken the steps to become

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Speaker 9: sanctuary states. And we've also seen sanctuary cities for children

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Speaker 9: that are struggling with with gender identity, the state taking

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Speaker 9: custody of them and providing them these relative surgeries and

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Speaker 9: hormones at taxpayer expense. Thankfully, the Supreme Court will be

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Speaker 9: taking up the Scurmeti case next month. That's the case

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Speaker 9: regarding Tennessee's ban on these procedures on minors, and we

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Speaker 9: hope that that will set a nationwide precedence to stop

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Speaker 9: this once and for all.

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Speaker 1: Are you confident that Trump administration is going to dig

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Speaker 1: into this? Have you heard things that lead you to

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Speaker 1: believe they intend to make some changes here?

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Speaker 9: You know, we've definitely heard from President elect Trump that

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Speaker 9: he has plans to tackle this. But I will say

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Speaker 9: that do you know, harm Is is not a political organization.

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Speaker 9: We're actually working to depoliticize medicine. We're a research and

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Speaker 9: education organization, and we are coming at this from the

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Speaker 9: aspect that the research and the medical evidence behind this

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Speaker 9: just is not there, and that we're doing irreversible harm

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Speaker 9: to these childreven and that as physicians and medical providers,

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Speaker 9: we are bound by the hippocratic oath freemum non newsera first,

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Speaker 9: do no harm, and we are doing grievous harm to

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Speaker 9: these children.

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Speaker 1: Doctor, Thank you so much. I appreciate it. All right,

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