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Speaker 1: Ty hilden Brand, joining me again. He came back, Dan.
Speaker 2: Rubinstein, Sir, can't get enough tie. How's it going? You
Speaker 2: know it's pretty good? Ty, that's a lie. I was
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles and it was nice and warm and sunny,
Speaker 2: and I was hanging out Santa Monica and Venice and
Speaker 2: just eating great Mexican food and living my best life.
Speaker 2: And now I'm back in New York and in a room. Ty,
Speaker 2: if you could see my setup?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for first question here of this Q and A show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just moved.
Speaker 1: I know that you moved. You talked about it on
Speaker 1: one of our previous shows that you moved. Right, What
Speaker 1: is your new recording setup now?
Speaker 2: So Jody with and I and I moved to just
Speaker 2: like down the block. It's still in Brooklyn, but as
Speaker 2: we speak right now, most of our apartment is all
Speaker 2: set and ready to go. We need to roll out.
Speaker 2: I think we're getting a couple of rugs clean because
Speaker 2: you got to have sort of soft floors in New
Speaker 2: York so people aren't stomping around all over the place. Well,
Speaker 2: my current setup, in this tiny little room we have,
Speaker 2: I have just crap everywhere. I have a bag of
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Speaker 2: the sound as I speak into my microphone which is
Speaker 2: next to my laptop. So it is a DIY garbage setup.
Speaker 2: I mean literally there is garbage. I am surrounded garbage,
Speaker 2: and hopefully the show is slightly better than being surrounded
Speaker 2: by garbage because we're doing what we're doing. Q and
Speaker 2: A Today, Q and A Today. Yeah, Yes, boonus. So
Speaker 2: I on let's say, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and I guess
Speaker 2: via email, ask questions about or ask people to ask
Speaker 2: questions about spring football season, hypotheticals, college football TV issues,
Speaker 2: reasonable expectations, unreasonable expectations, and literally whatever else. And we
Speaker 2: got a ton of really really strong questions.
Speaker 1: Ty, we did absolutely so again, if you are new
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Speaker 1: congregated all throughout the last year or so to talk
Speaker 1: about what we talk about here on the program and
Speaker 1: what we like to do once a month, I guess
Speaker 1: this month where technically do it? Doing it once?
Speaker 2: Do it as often as we want? Ty who cares?
Speaker 1: It is our show, but we like to take questions
Speaker 1: from the verbaler hood, read them aloud, and try to
Speaker 1: provide insight wherever possible. Sometimes that insight is better than others.
Speaker 1: My sense is that we're both shot out of a
Speaker 1: canon today.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go.
Speaker 1: I hear it in your voice that we're we're shot
Speaker 1: out of a cannon here, and I'm feeling the same.
Speaker 1: So should we get to our first question? I think
Speaker 1: we should get to our first question? Okay, where we're going.
Speaker 2: Let's go with John. Lots of people talk about which
Speaker 2: fan base has the most unrealistic expectations, the Nebraska corn Huskers.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm excited to see Nebraska. But nobody ever
Speaker 2: discusses that was my editor orzation. Nobody discusses reasonable fan bases.
Speaker 2: From your experience, which fan base has the most reasonable
Speaker 2: expectation and healthiest relationship with their team? And as I'm
Speaker 2: reading this question, I can only think about the time
Speaker 2: when I was at SI, and I guess you were
Speaker 2: at SI at this time as well. When I was
Speaker 2: invited to the SI swimsuit party in Las Vegas. Let
Speaker 2: me tell you something, Ti, My expectations were very recent.
Speaker 2: I went to that party. In my expectation was I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna get a good, good drink or two,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dance a little bit, and I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: pictures with West Coast or West Coast with camera guy Dave,
Speaker 2: who I brought along with me and watched a rash
Speaker 2: Markazi dance. That was my expectation, and it all came true.
Speaker 1: Does it feel to you that the only true correct answer,
Speaker 1: the one true champion of this question has sort of
Speaker 1: always been Illinois football.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: It's always an Illinois football.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I'm going to posit this as reasonable expectations
Speaker 2: of being acceptable acceptable okay, because I think there is
Speaker 2: an element of you know, Chicago's not a high school
Speaker 2: football hotbed, but Illinois has I wouldn't say recent or
Speaker 2: modern history of success, but they should be able to
Speaker 2: recruit better. And they actually I've been paying a little
Speaker 2: bit of attention to recruiting thus far because of our
Speaker 2: pal Scott Eli and I fan Scott. I think they
Speaker 2: just got a five star athlete out of Saint Louis
Speaker 2: who might play quarterback, and so they're doing a little
Speaker 2: bit better. But Texas.
Speaker 1: My point is, you know, I remember we talked to
Speaker 1: Robert from alioni dot com. We talked to our friend
Speaker 1: will Leach. Certainly, we've talked to line eye fans, Scott like.
Speaker 1: They all seem to have a very healthy relationship with
Speaker 1: the team. They want the team to do well, but
Speaker 1: if it doesn't, they almost have a license to go
Speaker 1: out and explore other teams. It's a very open relationship
Speaker 1: with their college football team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, I would flip it and tweak it
Speaker 2: a little bit. Like, I don't think Illinois fans have
Speaker 2: any expectations exactly, So let's move to like who has
Speaker 2: an acceptable level of positive expectations and for that path.
Speaker 2: I would say people who have the most data about
Speaker 2: their coach, so people who have experience with a longer
Speaker 2: tenured coach. And so the check marks I have are Northwestern, Okay, Stanford, Iowa,
Speaker 2: Kansas State, and Navy. In terms of bigger programs, who
Speaker 2: you know, maybe Georgia Tech, but that's just it's so
Speaker 2: up and down with Georgia Tech. And I think there's
Speaker 2: a certain amount of frustration given what Georgia Tech's ceiling
Speaker 2: should be, given its location, and you can attract academically
Speaker 2: really good kids. Perhaps that otherwise going to places like
Speaker 2: Duke or Stanford or Notre Dame or Vanderbilt whatever. I
Speaker 2: think that list is where I'm probably going to stuck TCU.
Speaker 2: Maybe I think there's an expectation I considered TCU.
Speaker 1: I first off, I think everyone in the SEC is out. Yes,
Speaker 1: everyone in the SEC is out.
Speaker 2: Maybe other than Vandy, I think there's not much in
Speaker 2: terms of expectations there.
Speaker 1: There are fan bases that have tasted success, and when
Speaker 1: they do, they tend to lust for more. And that's
Speaker 1: true in nearly every case. Right. What we're trying to
Speaker 1: find here are are examples of the few fan bases
Speaker 1: that don't seem to get out of hand. And I
Speaker 1: do think the coaching element factors in one that you
Speaker 1: forgot is Michigan State. I think Michigan State probably falls
Speaker 1: into that category two. But Northwestern Stanford Navy, you said Iowa.
Speaker 1: I had k State down on my list as well.
Speaker 1: These are teams that by and large are very confident
Speaker 1: in the coach that they have and have seen their
Speaker 1: coaches spin gold out of what was deemed by others
Speaker 1: to not be the deepest of talent pools, and so
Speaker 1: that earns them a lot of credibility that earns them
Speaker 1: a longer leash, and I think in most cases it
Speaker 1: leads to fan bases that aren't prone to unreasonable expectations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all of those coaches. I think the
Speaker 2: common thread with what Pat Fitzgerald, David Shaq, Kirk Farence,
Speaker 2: Bill Snyder, Kenny Mandalolo is that the fan bases have
Speaker 2: made peace with who they are, which are all good coaches,
Speaker 2: and that they will win more games that they should
Speaker 2: or many more games that they should than otherwise. And
Speaker 2: that's that's a pretty good place. If not, you know,
Speaker 2: you can get bored. And maybe we'll talk about this
Speaker 2: with USC and I have a comparison for Clay Helton's
Speaker 2: being nothing but successful, but there is that boredom element.
Speaker 2: But I don't think there is that expectation of blue
Speaker 2: blood for any of those schools. So Matt, I think
Speaker 2: they're in good places.
Speaker 1: Okay, good answer, good question, Thank you, John. Where we
Speaker 1: going next? Next?
Speaker 2: Let's go. This is a question from Reddit from rock
Speaker 2: Leg rock Leg, whatever rock Leg is, which cellar dweller
Speaker 2: Power five program is least deserving of a meteorc rise
Speaker 2: to the top of the conference and as a bonus,
Speaker 2: which long suffering fan base is least deserving of playoff glory.
Speaker 2: So I'm man, that's tough, but I can answer the
Speaker 2: first one, okay, which I imagine you can as well.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to answer this in terms of a
Speaker 2: faction because it's hard to paint even though that's, you know,
Speaker 2: the fun part of being fun about college football, but
Speaker 2: it's hard to paint a fan base as a complete
Speaker 2: homogenistic whatever or society that there everybody is the same.
Speaker 2: But I would say if there's any faction of a
Speaker 2: fan base that has traditionally been pretty low, although they've
Speaker 2: been a little bit higher lately, but traditionally been low
Speaker 2: and would be very happy to see them miserable forever.
Speaker 2: Would be that Art Brill's shirt selling and buying faction
Speaker 2: of the Baylor fan base when everything was going down.
Speaker 2: I'd be happy if Baylor was firmly entrenched, not because
Speaker 2: of reasonable, nice, kind, you know, supportive, pragmatic Baylor fans,
Speaker 2: but if there's any faction of a fan base that
Speaker 2: would make me happy to see them miserable forever, it'd
Speaker 2: probably be that group of Baylor fans and maybe some
Speaker 2: Joe pot Truthers and Penn State.
Speaker 1: I was going to bring up the Joe Podruthers. I
Speaker 1: think there's okay, there's definitely something there. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to directly answer this question from rock Leg. Did you
Speaker 1: say rock Leg WBZR clag. Yeah, he did pose a
Speaker 1: bonus question, which long suffering fan base is least deserving
Speaker 1: of playoff glory?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm a Notre Dame fan.
Speaker 2: Uh huh. I like where you're going.
Speaker 1: It's well known on this program and throughout the interwebs
Speaker 1: that I am a college football fan for the University
Speaker 1: of Notre Dame in addition to Penn State, my alma mater,
Speaker 1: but by and large I've been a Notre Dame fan
Speaker 1: my entire life. You can make a really strong case
Speaker 1: here that the Notre Dame fan base, the holier than
Speaker 1: thou sort of entitled section of the Notre Dame fan base,
Speaker 1: is qualified to be the answer here.
Speaker 2: The good news is so many of them don't have
Speaker 2: the Internet, so their reaction not saying all.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not saying. Most of the people
Speaker 1: that I have the good fortune of dealing with, most
Speaker 1: people I think have their head in the right place.
Speaker 1: But there is a very very small minority of the
Speaker 1: Notre Dame fan base that fits that mold, a little
Speaker 1: holier than thou, little entitled, and I think it is
Speaker 1: that group that gives Notre Dame fans as a whole
Speaker 1: a bad.
Speaker 2: Name non football, which I think this is a phenomenal question, ty,
Speaker 2: and this goes to the heart of who we are
Speaker 2: truly as people. Which of your friend's hobbies are you
Speaker 2: awful at? If Dan goes to hang out at someone's
Speaker 2: place and gets handed to controller to play Madden, who
Speaker 2: hold his own? First? Of all? The answer is yes,
Speaker 2: I am totally decent and acceptable, if not pretty good.
Speaker 2: Sometimes at football video games, mainly in C DOUBLEA, but
Speaker 2: certainly Madden.
Speaker 1: Have you, by the way, have you tried the latest Madden? No,
Speaker 1: It's impossible, is it really? I used to be so
Speaker 1: good at the previous renditions of Madden, and in so
Speaker 1: much harder. It's just different. I don't know. There are
Speaker 1: various controls now to like jump up and catch the ball.
Speaker 1: It seems like you can't. You can't run the ten
Speaker 1: yard out route every time anymore and get a first down,
Speaker 1: like without even trying. They've just made everything. And after
Speaker 1: years away from playing the game, I decided I'd pick
Speaker 1: it up when it was on sale and let me
Speaker 1: tell you, woo woo. Not good.
Speaker 2: Not good. So here's where I'm currently at video game wise,
Speaker 2: before I answer this question. There has not been an
Speaker 2: NCAA release in five years, four years something like that.
Speaker 2: I think the last one was NCAA fourteen, which would
Speaker 2: have come out in twenty thirteen, right, yep, summer of
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, so it's almost going on five years. I
Speaker 2: am at the point where I have interest in video games,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to shoot people and I don't
Speaker 2: want to learn advanced football controls for Madden, and I
Speaker 2: don't really care about the NFL that much. And I'm
Speaker 2: i bawling a Nintendo Switch and playing Mario with the
Speaker 2: rest of my days, like I never have. That's super
Speaker 2: attractive to me. I have both the switch and the
Speaker 2: PS four. Is that true?
Speaker 1: It is true?
Speaker 2: How's the switch?
Speaker 1: This switch is fantastic.
Speaker 2: What do you play?
Speaker 1: I'm mostly into Mario Kart. I played a little bit
Speaker 1: of the Zelda game mm hmmm, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Solid wise, Kate got into Yeah, into the Zelda game.
Speaker 2: Are you playing it on the screen or are you
Speaker 2: playing a handheld? Mostly on the screen? Okay, mostly on
Speaker 2: the screen, but Mario.
Speaker 1: Kart still brings it. Still my favorite game by far
Speaker 1: in the Nintendo universe interest and as far as PS
Speaker 1: four goes, I have dabbled with a couple of the
Speaker 1: sports games that are out there. The best one remains
Speaker 1: a soccer game, FIFA FIFA. But you have to put
Speaker 1: in some time, right, Yeah, I'm awful at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm awful at it, and so I've resorted to playing
Speaker 1: on a lower difficulty, beating teams by eight goals and
Speaker 1: just enjoying myself.
Speaker 2: My broader answer to this question one golf. I'm not
Speaker 2: awful at golf. I'm awful at wanting to play golf.
Speaker 2: I grew up playing. I went to you know, I
Speaker 2: learned how to play like. I love going to driving ranges.
Speaker 2: I've never been to. It's it called top top golf.
Speaker 1: That's a good time.
Speaker 2: Have you been been? I've never been. It looks like
Speaker 2: a great time because it looks like you just hit
Speaker 2: a bunch of golf balls and drink beer and eat
Speaker 2: tater tots. That's my zone. It's pretty much that is
Speaker 2: that is my zone. I would love to do that.
Speaker 2: I'm totally fine at golf. I mean, i'd probably shoot
Speaker 2: a hundred or something like that, but I don't I
Speaker 2: wouldn't look like a spas. I just don't want to
Speaker 2: dedicate four and a half hours like that. That to
Speaker 2: me is sort of miserable. I'd rather just play sports,
Speaker 2: you know. I'd rather go for a run or play basketball.
Speaker 2: I've only gone paintballing once and I'd probably be really
Speaker 2: bad at that. And my final answer drinking. Not a
Speaker 2: great drinker, tie and I guess cocaine. I don't know
Speaker 2: if any of my friends are coke heads, but since
Speaker 2: I have never partaken, I'd be pretty bad at cocaine.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think that that's my answer. Yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: pretty awful at actually your hobby, which is going out
Speaker 1: and trying different kinds of foods.
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, it's the easy, it's the most fun
Speaker 2: thing it is. But I'm I'm just not you're setting
Speaker 2: your ways, not that into it. Yeah, I'm setting my
Speaker 2: ways so much like you. The idea of golf, the
Speaker 2: idea of dedicating time to whatever. I kind of feel
Speaker 2: the same way about different kinds of foods. I am
Speaker 2: going again to Mexico City in a couple months, and
Speaker 2: my day is this wake up, maybe work out. It's
Speaker 2: sort of like cors Field because it's like seven thousand
Speaker 2: feet up, so gotta be careful not exert myself too
Speaker 2: much and just walk and eat all day. And it
Speaker 2: is the greatest tie. We got to get you down
Speaker 2: in Mexico City and get you some non.
Speaker 1: Do our live shown in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, at Azteca before the Lehi Colgate game
Speaker 2: of course. Okay, next question, let's go to Oh here's
Speaker 2: a good one, duck caught upstream. This is also from Reddit.
Speaker 2: Two good questions after a down year last year, how
Speaker 2: many Pac twelve teams do you think are good enough
Speaker 2: to be in realistic contention for a college football playoff
Speaker 2: spot when November rolls around. The most accurate answer I
Speaker 2: could come up with was like a half a half
Speaker 2: of a team. I don't know what your answer is,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to run through some pertinent information to
Speaker 2: hopefully help your answers.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the first answer is Arizona State, right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, as I well, nobody in the South. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's I don't think that's fully true. The USC schedule
Speaker 2: is pretty good with a new quarterback with a new quelt.
Speaker 2: See that's the thing. So they have what it's Matt Fink,
Speaker 2: Jack Sears and JT. Daniels' incoming, So they don't have
Speaker 2: that blue chip, known quantity quarterback like they had last
Speaker 2: year with sort of a screwy schedule. But USC's defense,
Speaker 2: especially their secondary, is in pretty good shape. The linebacking
Speaker 2: course pretty good. I know they they lose what Rashim
Speaker 2: Green and Wosu on the on the line, so there's
Speaker 2: some rebuilding there. But offensive skill wise, I liked Tyler Vaughds.
Speaker 2: The offensive line is somewhat intact, Stephen Carr should step
Speaker 2: into a pretty big role in the backfield. Schedule wise,
Speaker 2: it's pretty good. So they're at Stanford and at Texas
Speaker 2: early on consecutively, and that's tough. But Stanford is outside
Speaker 2: of Bryce Love. I'm not sure what really truly scares
Speaker 2: me about Stanford this year. Texas will see what their
Speaker 2: offense looks like. Defensively, they're in great shape, but you know,
Speaker 2: USC is coming off of a win there. They go
Speaker 2: to Utah, but they have Notre Dame at home after
Speaker 2: the UCLA game, and miss Oregon and Washington from the north.
Speaker 2: So all things considered, I'd say that's pretty solid, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean the schedule's fun. I just you
Speaker 1: lose Sam Darnold. Yeah, it's tough to be what I
Speaker 1: would answer here a legitimate playoff threat.
Speaker 2: But they maintain their coaching staff, which I think is
Speaker 2: pretty enormous. Tim Martin is back after some flirtation, I guess,
Speaker 2: so I'm I'm pretty good with USC, just in terms
Speaker 2: of what their actual season looks like. Quickly, Stanford's schedule
Speaker 2: is super tough. They're at Oregon, at Notre Dame, at
Speaker 2: Utah consecutively and then at Utah's consecutive with Wazoo. Excuse me,
Speaker 2: but Washington is on the road at UCLA to end
Speaker 2: the season, and that's just and that's after going to
Speaker 2: Cal for a rivalry game, so that's sort of a
Speaker 2: screwy way to end things. Oregon has a non conference
Speaker 2: garbage or excuse me, Oregon's non conference schedule is garbage.
Speaker 2: Important clarification, important clarification. They don't have USC, as mentioned,
Speaker 2: they have Stanford, Washington, Ucla all at home with Washington
Speaker 2: after a buye. So Oregon is a good contender for
Speaker 2: and I've mentioned this before, schedules better than they actually are.
Speaker 2: But if Justin Herbert is able to stay healthy, they
Speaker 2: should be able to take another step forward on defense.
Speaker 2: Washington opens the season in Atlanta against Auburn. They go
Speaker 2: to Utah to UCLA and Ucla and Oregon are on
Speaker 2: the road consecutively, and they have no bye week until
Speaker 2: November tenth, and a short week rivalry game on a
Speaker 2: Friday on the road at Wazoo, which obviously Chris Peterson
Speaker 2: owns Mike Leach. But we saw it last year when
Speaker 2: you have that short week road game with USC going
Speaker 2: to Wazoo ended up being pretty brutal for the Trojans.
Speaker 2: So man schedule seems fine because Washington misses USC Arizona,
Speaker 2: my answer.
Speaker 1: Was going to be either Washington or Stanford.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would put my money on Washington, even with
Speaker 2: the losses up front. On defense, they sell Greg Gains
Speaker 2: that secondary should be filthy. I love Taylor Rapp.
Speaker 1: I think the answer is Washington and or Stanford. So
Speaker 1: the question what legitimate legitimate playoff teams realistically good enough
Speaker 1: to be in the College Football Playoff come November.
Speaker 2: I'd say one and a half is probably my.
Speaker 1: One and a half I think is a good line.
Speaker 1: I'll go with one.
Speaker 2: Should also mention just because Arizona has the best quarterback
Speaker 2: in the South in Khalil Tates go to Houston in
Speaker 2: the non conference schedule, and they do have that dreaded
Speaker 2: PAC twelve short week road game at Utah altitude. I'm
Speaker 2: almost in the way that we last season said the
Speaker 2: USC short week at Wazoo on a Friday night shout
Speaker 2: out Adam Ameme, that's man. Circle that game as like
Speaker 2: the biggest trip up totally. I would if Arizona is
Speaker 2: good under Kevin someone this year, I would circle that
Speaker 2: Utah game on the road the short week. That's rough.
Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely all right, good question, but yeah, let's go
Speaker 1: one and a half Washington and Stanford as our official
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Dan, who has a good college football
Speaker 2: TV question. Dan clob clob a car clob Ashar Club Ashar.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: So many games being broadcast, you know, across so many channels,
Speaker 2: com ference networks, whatever. It really seems like there is
Speaker 2: a shortage of quality announcing teams. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I agree with that, but whatever, What kind of gimmick
Speaker 2: color commentator would you like to see? Comedian actor dog Dog?
Speaker 1: The dog would be interesting? I'll give him none of
Speaker 1: the above.
Speaker 2: Okay, So here is I have both a serious and yeah,
Speaker 2: I have very indulgent answer, indulging not for us, but
Speaker 2: indulgent for his question. So the serious answer is it's
Speaker 2: sort of disrespectful to put a dog on a game
Speaker 2: to the two fan bases who are watching this game
Speaker 2: and care about you know, if if ESPNU has Wake
Speaker 2: Syracuse or USF Temple or something like that, and it's
Speaker 2: I don't know, if it's our pal adam Ameme with
Speaker 2: a German shepherd, that's not great. That means we don't
Speaker 2: take your game and your efforts and the history of
Speaker 2: your fandom all that seriously. I mean, it depends on
Speaker 2: the dog. It's true, there are a lot of good dogs.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of good dogs.
Speaker 1: In the animal act typically on broadcast, television, broadcast anything
Speaker 1: has really been a success. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's entirely true, but I do hear your point correct.
Speaker 2: I would say that if you are looking to shake
Speaker 2: things up and draw attention to, like you know, a
Speaker 2: Big ten spillover game on the Big ten network on
Speaker 2: Big ten two or something like that, or draw attention
Speaker 2: to I think stadium is now a thing, the Stadium network,
Speaker 2: which I think broadcast game on Facebook, so always probably
Speaker 2: looking for. I think gimmick is too.
Speaker 1: You're going to steal an answer here, aren't you. I
Speaker 1: don't think you're going to steal my answer. I know what,
Speaker 1: I can feel it.
Speaker 2: I will you know what, ty, I will give you
Speaker 2: your platform right now.
Speaker 1: You're going to steal my damn answer, say it. I
Speaker 1: don't think the answer to this question is a gimmick commentator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think it's a comedian, an actor, a dog, right, a
Speaker 1: fee lion. I don't think it's any kind of gimmick
Speaker 1: ann answer.
Speaker 2: You should just keep naming types of vand I don't
Speaker 2: think it's a cephalapod. I don't think it's a mollusk.
Speaker 1: I think it's more a matter of format than it
Speaker 1: is the actual commentator. Like remember when they did the
Speaker 1: coach's film room m hmm during the National Championship. If
Speaker 1: they could find a way to make that a little
Speaker 1: bit more digestible, maybe not have five guys in a
Speaker 1: room yelling out terms that most of the population doesn't understand.
Speaker 1: If they could refine that a little bit, a format
Speaker 1: like that will be rather interesting. Sort of what Adam
Speaker 1: Amin did on the night of the National champion the
Speaker 1: Homer's broadcast, the Homer's Broadcast, where he was walking around
Speaker 1: on the sidelines and they had guys on either side.
Speaker 1: He was doing that with Joe Tests. That stuff was
Speaker 1: I thought pretty interesting and is enough to shake it
Speaker 1: up where even if you're not fully into a game,
Speaker 1: you might tune in just to see what the format
Speaker 1: is all about. I think that's the answer here.
Speaker 2: I like the idea, and I think you're on the
Speaker 2: right track. That wasn't my answer, so okay, So part
Speaker 2: of my answer would be radio feed. But like a
Speaker 2: lot of these networks have spill channels, So like if
Speaker 2: it's Purdue Nebraska on the Big Ten network and Big
Speaker 2: Ten has spillover, maybe you have that familiar voice. You
Speaker 2: know some people you grew up a Dodger fan, and
Speaker 2: there were a lot of people when it was a
Speaker 2: Vince Scully game on the radio but not on TV,
Speaker 2: would mute the TV intern on the radio, So perhaps
Speaker 2: marrying That's my other answer is what about bring in
Speaker 2: notable NBA broadcasters or college basketball or baseball, or just
Speaker 2: like experience, like Bill Raftrie, I like Bell Raftery. If
Speaker 2: let's say Kyler Murray throws a bomb that's ridiculous after
Speaker 2: shedding two tackles, and Bill Rafty is yelling onions, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty excited.
Speaker 1: I mean they sort of did that a little bit
Speaker 1: with Gus Johnson.
Speaker 2: Right, And it works to varying degrees and it depends
Speaker 2: on the person, but it's not terribly hard to prep.
Speaker 2: You learn names, you learn backstories, you learn history whatever
Speaker 2: of these teams of the season, whatever. But I think
Speaker 2: there are voices out there.
Speaker 1: Oh you know we're missing we're missing the obvious who us?
Speaker 2: Well, obviously we have to start with Patley, get at us,
Speaker 2: get at us, pat League.
Speaker 1: We could do something like that.
Speaker 2: That would be my answer, Or like hell, like Pat
Speaker 2: say Jack, he's pretty good, He's pretty smooth. He likes sports. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's my answer. Not a dog, but a mollusc.
Speaker 1: A cute dog would work.
Speaker 2: But okay, next question, Robbie wants to know USC goes
Speaker 2: ten and two and loses the title game to Washington.
Speaker 2: Let's assume they go to the Rose Bowl and lose.
Speaker 2: In his three years there, there are three top fifteen
Speaker 2: finish as a conference win, at division win, a Rose
Speaker 2: Bowl win in three New year six game appearances. Is
Speaker 2: Clay Helton still on the hot seat? So I believe
Speaker 2: if I'm understanding this question correctly, Robbie wants to know,
Speaker 2: is there, in perpetuity USC fan acceptance of really good
Speaker 2: but not great.
Speaker 1: Clay Helton's perpetually hot seat is what I think we're
Speaker 1: talking about here. Potential Fantasy things draft pick absolutely in
Speaker 1: her upcoming fan I see things drafted an undetermined location
Speaker 1: at this point about August August time frame. Stay tuned
Speaker 1: for our next live show if you're interested. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: perpetual hotness of the Clay Hilton's seat is of interest
Speaker 1: to me, and I don't think it's fair to him.
Speaker 1: Clay Helton stepped into that role at USC after a
Speaker 1: long list of other coaches, higher profile guys who didn't
Speaker 1: work out for one reason or another. He had the
Speaker 1: kiff And thing, the Sarkesian thing like, it just didn't
Speaker 1: work out for a lot of folks. He had coach
Speaker 1: oh there for a little bit lobbying to get that role.
Speaker 1: Clay Helton almost stepped into a situation where this was
Speaker 1: always going to be the case. So the answer of
Speaker 1: will he versus should he is important here. I don't
Speaker 1: think he should if again, in three years there are
Speaker 1: three top fifteen finishes. But I do think that back
Speaker 1: to our earlier question at the top of the show,
Speaker 1: expectations at a blue blood school like USC are already
Speaker 1: so high, and the talent pool is already so deep
Speaker 1: that if they don't get over that hump, if they
Speaker 1: don't become anything more than just a top fifteen team
Speaker 1: at the end of each season, eventually, yeah, he's going
Speaker 1: to get let go. Eventually, Yeah, the hot seat is
Speaker 1: going to overtake him. I think he will remain on
Speaker 1: the hot seat if he can't get over that hump.
Speaker 2: On the national stage, USC looked sensational on offense against
Speaker 2: Penn State in an all time fun ridiculous rewatchable game, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: for sure. Yes, then they completely look lost and overmatched
Speaker 2: against Ohio State in the bowl game last year, and
Speaker 2: you know, obviously in a very very early game, just
Speaker 2: get drilled, demolished and squashed by Alabama on a neutral site.
Speaker 2: So USC measures itself and I say that as a
Speaker 2: fan base and a school whatever against the country's best,
Speaker 2: because they're able to attract the best. They have a
Speaker 2: history that aligns with the best of the best nationally
Speaker 2: and even a recent history in the Pete Carroll era
Speaker 2: that aligns with them. But could there be an element?
Speaker 2: And I have his stats in front of me, and
Speaker 2: this is so early on because he was at his
Speaker 2: place for fifteen years. Mark Richt right good consistently forever.
Speaker 2: But it just got to the point where people in
Speaker 2: charge fans said, can't we be a little more? Can't
Speaker 2: we be significantly more than good? And Mark ricked in
Speaker 2: his fifteen years at Georgia nine out of those fifteen
Speaker 2: years he won ten plus games. As significant he went
Speaker 2: till three Sugar Bowls in fifteen years, so that's not
Speaker 2: the greatest and had six shares of the East at
Speaker 2: least either outright wins of the division or a share
Speaker 2: of the division, but at a certain fifteen years is
Speaker 2: a long time. But if Clay Helton is on that
Speaker 2: sort of pace, like he goes five out of eight
Speaker 2: years ten plus wins, six out of eight ten plus wins,
Speaker 2: but never gets over the hump of winning the Rose
Speaker 2: Bowl or just never does anything in the playoff, I
Speaker 2: think there will be an element at USC that says,
Speaker 2: we need a little more seasoning on this roast. We
Speaker 2: just need a little bit more. And I think it's
Speaker 2: not imminent. But Clay Helton, I don't think inspires the
Speaker 2: same amount of program facedness as Pete Carroll, and that
Speaker 2: is always going to be in the back of people's minds.
Speaker 2: I believe that if he maxes out at winning or
Speaker 2: losing the Rose Bowl, it's going to grow tiresome. But
Speaker 2: not anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Not anytime soon, And like I said, eventually he will
Speaker 1: be overcome by the hotness of the seat. But you
Speaker 1: do bring up a really important point, and it's one
Speaker 1: that we mentioned Gosh, I want to say six or
Speaker 1: eight months ago, when we were talking about USC and
Speaker 1: Clay Hilton. Back in twenty seventeen, Dan Clay Heilton walked
Speaker 1: into an airport. How many people you think would recognize how.
Speaker 2: Many people would recognize Clayilton at a Hudson News The
Speaker 2: answer is zero, Maybe in LA a couple.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that factors in as well. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have that gravitas of I don't know, Pete Carroll, someone
Speaker 1: who's been there before, had a lot of success, someone
Speaker 1: who's recognizable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing. If he's recruiting on a
Speaker 2: top three to five level, he should have top three
Speaker 2: to five results, and that means within the next three
Speaker 2: years he has to win at least a playoff.
Speaker 1: Game, right, I would think I think that's fair.
Speaker 2: So that's where I come down with Clayhilton, who has
Speaker 2: done a fantastic job, you know, taking over a program
Speaker 2: that was in crazy flux, recruited super well developed quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: has hired really well. He has done everything that USC
Speaker 2: could possibly hope for short of top two to three results.
Speaker 2: That's a really good agreed next question and the opposite
Speaker 2: end of things from Matt giving the way both Virginia
Speaker 2: football and basketball Womp WOMP ended their twenty seventeen eighteen
Speaker 2: seasons losing against teams from Maryland. Is there any hope
Speaker 2: Bronco can turn things around in Charlottesville. Yes, I'm still better.
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, Virginia last went to a bowl in
Speaker 1: twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Mm. Hm.
Speaker 1: They went to a bowl. They lost the Military Bowl
Speaker 1: a couple months ago, hm, but still went to a
Speaker 1: bowl game for the first time in six years. Now.
Speaker 1: UVA might not be on the precipice of winning the
Speaker 1: ACC going to a playoff game, but clearly the results
Speaker 1: have been there in year two that I think if
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the team, you have reason for optimism.
Speaker 1: It's obviously a much different situation than what we saw
Speaker 1: with EVA basketball leading to a sixteen seed, but I
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about where Bronco Man and Hall's gotten
Speaker 1: them in just two years.
Speaker 2: Do we follow a time sport though, time in saying
Speaker 2: that you got to give him time? It's not necessarily
Speaker 2: a sport that's rooted in time.
Speaker 1: No, it isn't. But not all programs are created equally.
Speaker 1: If you step into a job at let's go back
Speaker 1: to USC you are inherently at much more of an
Speaker 1: advantage than you would be at a program like UVA,
Speaker 1: which again hadn't been to a bowl game in six
Speaker 1: full seasons.
Speaker 2: Right. Here's why I'm sort of down on Virginia. If
Speaker 2: I gave you an over under of one and a
Speaker 2: half blue chip players recruited or committed to Virginia in
Speaker 2: the last three years, what are you taking.
Speaker 1: Under?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's zero. They have not gotten it on blue
Speaker 2: chip commitment in the last three seasons, so in the
Speaker 2: Bronco Mendenhall era, And that to me is worrisome. Not
Speaker 2: because you need blue chip players to win eight games
Speaker 2: a year. You need a lot of factors to win
Speaker 2: eight plus games a year in a Power five conference.
Speaker 2: And I think the expectation for Virginia should be bowl
Speaker 2: games to a Bowl last year. The problem with Virginia,
Speaker 2: as I see it as somebody who has watched not
Speaker 2: a lot of Virginia games, but some Virginia games, is
Speaker 2: probably going to end up year over year. If they're
Speaker 2: not able to attract higher level talent, it's going to
Speaker 2: be depth. What do we see from Virginia last year?
Speaker 2: They finished the season losing four straight ACC games. After
Speaker 2: starting what three to one? They lose four straight? What
Speaker 2: do they do against Miami? They look sensational in the
Speaker 2: first half and can't quite close it out. That to
Speaker 2: me is the problem with Virginia that they are going
Speaker 2: to win games early on, They're going to beat teams
Speaker 2: that they are more talented then, but they're ceiling when
Speaker 2: you're not able to attract slightly higher level. A slightly
Speaker 2: higher level of talent is they're going to max out
Speaker 2: at six or seven games every year, and that's max
Speaker 2: max max, everything coming together really really well. You know,
Speaker 2: they had that awesome game against Boise last year to
Speaker 2: get them Bowl eligible, right, so they win that game
Speaker 2: early on, and that seems to be a huge difference maker.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm not at the moment because of how
Speaker 2: down that offense looked most of the year last year,
Speaker 2: and the defense was fine. It was top forty or
Speaker 2: fifty defense. That's why I can't. And this year I
Speaker 2: think they miss Clemson in Florida State, which is wonderful
Speaker 2: for them, But there's nothing to me that says Virginia
Speaker 2: is probably going to hit their ceiling as a program
Speaker 2: with a kind of down pit, a so so Duke,
Speaker 2: a super down North Carolina right now, a promising Virginia attack,
Speaker 2: and a promising Miami in that division. I Virginia has
Speaker 2: to be a little bit disappointed that they are not
Speaker 2: taking advantage better right now? Okay, that's our That's where
Speaker 2: I stand, fair enough, the talent needs to be in
Speaker 2: a higher place. To me, Ray wants to know. Let's say,
Speaker 2: in the acc ty, what are your thoughts on Florida
Speaker 2: State's upcoming season. What do you think Willy Taggart's expectations
Speaker 2: are for his team? Go knows, I don't. I'm not
Speaker 2: familiar with who that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Willy Taggert at Florida State. That's my
Speaker 1: broad answer. I think he fits in there. He obviously
Speaker 1: knows the landscape. It was talked about in circles long
Speaker 1: before Jimbo Fisher actually left that if he did, Willy
Speaker 1: Taggart would be the place that Florida State went first.
Speaker 1: So I think bringing him aboard makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: I think he will succeed there, if not immediately, certainly
Speaker 1: in the very very near future. Florida State's got a
Speaker 1: lot of talent. I would expect that their offense is
Speaker 1: going to run through cam akers this coming season. The
Speaker 1: conference as a whole is always sort of a little
Speaker 1: bit of wait and see. I think Florida State is
Speaker 1: still very much in that top tier, and without having
Speaker 1: their schedule in front of me, it's tough to sort
Speaker 1: of gauge where that's going to go. But I wouldn't
Speaker 1: expect there to be much much of a drop off
Speaker 1: just becausefully Taggart's stepping in.
Speaker 2: I think it's a very good time for a reboot
Speaker 2: for Florida State. Jimbo Fisher always ran a pretty complicated
Speaker 2: offense that put a lot on the quarterback in terms
Speaker 2: of adjustments and audibles and different protections whatever. And the
Speaker 2: big thing that Willy Taggert has been preaching, preached at
Speaker 2: his introductory press conference was lethal simplicity that they are
Speaker 2: going It'll be as much smaller playbook, it will get
Speaker 2: the ball to playmakers and speed, all of you know,
Speaker 2: your talking points at an introductory press conference, whatever. But
Speaker 2: having watched a Willi Taggart offense for a season tie,
Speaker 2: not many seasons, just one short season, I can tell
Speaker 2: you that it will be an offense that is going
Speaker 2: to look much more fun and accessible than the last
Speaker 2: couple of years of Florida State. We'll see at quarterback
Speaker 2: they're going to run the quarterback more, which is both
Speaker 2: good and bad. With DeAndre Swift or its DeAndre Swift,
Speaker 2: DeAndre Francois coming off the injury, or whoever ends up
Speaker 2: starting for Florida stated it seems that job is wide open,
Speaker 2: so it could be Black as well. That will be
Speaker 2: a new responsibility for quarterbacks. I think the defense will
Speaker 2: be in a good place, and I do have the
Speaker 2: schedule in front of me. They open against Virginia Tech
Speaker 2: on that Labor Day Monday night game, which should be difficult.
Speaker 2: It should be that Virginia Tech defense, even with losing
Speaker 2: probably their two best players at least, that should be difficult.
Speaker 2: But beyond that, I know Northern Illinois had a nice offense,
Speaker 2: but they should in that's a rematch right the Floor
Speaker 2: State Northern Illinois game. Louisville's defense should be manageable to
Speaker 2: play against, I assume, but it should be improved from
Speaker 2: where it was last year. The Miami defense should be tough.
Speaker 2: They get Clemson at home, and they go to Notre Dame,
Speaker 2: and that is it's a pretty good year, I would say.
Speaker 2: And we don't really know what Notre Dame is going
Speaker 2: to look like in mid November, but in terms of
Speaker 2: where Notre Dame has been strong these past couple of
Speaker 2: years at offensive line. It'll be a step back without
Speaker 2: McGlinchey and Nelson. We don't know. We're not all that
Speaker 2: confident in quarterback for Notre Dame in March, and they're
Speaker 2: working in a new defensive coordinator. See what happens there.
Speaker 2: We know what Notre Dame looks like with a really
Speaker 2: good coordinated defense, and we know what it looks like
Speaker 2: with sort of a shoddy mess of a coordinated defense
Speaker 2: in the last two years.
Speaker 1: Yep, oh yeah, we know well, no, quite well.
Speaker 2: And we don't know anything about what Florida will actually
Speaker 2: look like. But that game is at home, So Florida
Speaker 2: State should win nine games. I don't think it's unreasonable
Speaker 2: to say that they should win nine games with the
Speaker 2: talent they have on both sides of the ball. They
Speaker 2: lose their best defensive player in Derwin James, but I
Speaker 2: am confident that this staff will energize this Florida State
Speaker 2: team in ways that have been lacking these past couple
Speaker 2: of years. Any tips I like this, This comes to
Speaker 2: us from Jesse with an Eye. You know, not Jody
Speaker 2: with an eye, but Jesse with an eye. Any tips
Speaker 2: on traveling to a big game on a small budget,
Speaker 2: traveling to a big game on a small budget. I
Speaker 2: don't know how old this person is, and that would
Speaker 2: affect my answer about willingness to sleep on couches and
Speaker 2: you know, get a hotel room with four other people.
Speaker 1: I think as far as food goes, at least on
Speaker 1: game day, you can almost always find a tailgate with food.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, definitely.
Speaker 1: You can definitely find somewhere to eat, be friendly, go up,
Speaker 1: try to introduce yourself. You can definitely find a tailgate
Speaker 1: that you can get some fre food from. So that
Speaker 1: I think is given to your point. As far as
Speaker 1: lodging goes, I would suggest that if you are in
Speaker 1: a really small budget that you stay a couple hours
Speaker 1: out of town and drive in on game day because
Speaker 1: depends what time the game is. But yeah, depends what
Speaker 1: time the game is. Depends on a lot of factors.
Speaker 1: But if you can drive in and stay out of town,
Speaker 1: that'll keep the hotel build down fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, get really good at buying scalp tickets.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe wait until the first quarter starts. I
Speaker 2: don't know, that's when jen only ticket prices will come down.
Speaker 2: I would yeah, I think definitely staying you don't think
Speaker 2: you have to do two hours maybe you know, forty
Speaker 2: five minutes an hour outside of town. Don't be afraid to, uh,
Speaker 2: maybe bring a couple sleeping bags if you're driving to
Speaker 2: the game, so you get four people in a two
Speaker 2: bed or a one bed hotel room. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think of anything else. Tie, or you could watch the
Speaker 2: game at a tailgate. You watch it not nearly as fun.
Speaker 2: But if tickets are crazy, if you're going to like
Speaker 2: LSU Bama, or you're going to some crazy expensive game
Speaker 2: USC UCLA. Actually that's not that expensive to get in
Speaker 2: there are If you can become friends with a megatailgate
Speaker 2: that has a bunch of screens and smokers going, that
Speaker 2: can be fun. All right, super fun. Hey, here's you're
Speaker 2: going to travel you don't want to watch it at tailgate.
Speaker 1: Here's one from Dakota. Yeah. If you were a new
Speaker 1: head football coach, what would be your go to a
Speaker 1: response when reporters ask you how spring ball was going.
Speaker 1: Answers could include quote, we're taking it day by day,
Speaker 1: quote looking forward to getting one percent better fo the
Speaker 1: more literal quote this team sucks and they're damn glad.
Speaker 1: I'm here to fix it. Do you have any answers, Dan.
Speaker 2: My answer would be similar, but not as cliched. I
Speaker 2: would say something along the lines of, like, I barely
Speaker 2: know these people. I don't know how I can give
Speaker 2: you any sort of expectation of what to expect based
Speaker 2: on springball. Because coaches meet with players, they have such
Speaker 2: limited amounts of time during the spring before spring ball
Speaker 2: that they're literally just learning about their players during springball.
Speaker 2: And that if you're a new coach, you don't know
Speaker 2: what this receiver is good at, you don't know what
Speaker 2: this safety does, you don't know the work habits of
Speaker 2: this left guard whatever, and you honestly you're learning about
Speaker 2: your new staff because almost without exception, a new head
Speaker 2: coach is bringing in spare not spare parts, but parts
Speaker 2: from different parts of the country and backgrounds and everything
Speaker 2: like that. So you're really just it's a learning process, Dan.
Speaker 2: What if you instantly went on offense. What if you said, no,
Speaker 2: it's going pretty well, it's definitely going better than our
Speaker 2: friends over at State. Well, then you're increasing expectations time.
Speaker 1: Increasing expectations, But you're gonna gin up the fan base
Speaker 1: a little bit. You're gonna get people talking about spring
Speaker 1: ball if it's a smaller school, you're gonna get people
Speaker 1: talking about your program. Yeah, you got to make sure
Speaker 1: you beat State, otherwise you get fired. But history favors
Speaker 1: the bold. My friend, I.
Speaker 2: Don't care about winning in spring ty that's winning the
Speaker 2: internet and that means nothing. So I'm going to say,
Speaker 2: you manage those that you do Lou Holtz. Isn't that
Speaker 2: what like Lou Holtz would always do, Like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how we're gonna win this game. Look at those guys,
Speaker 2: they're incredible. We'll be lucky if we stay within fourteen.
Speaker 2: So I would say, you know, it's an overhauling process
Speaker 2: and we're just taking baby steps. That's what I would do.
Speaker 2: I would manage expectations and buy myself as much time
Speaker 2: as humanly possible, because again, I barely know these players
Speaker 2: at that at the time of spring, our.
Speaker 1: New strength coach really paying dividends.
Speaker 2: That's the big move. Put it on the strength coach
Speaker 2: and the strength staff. That's who gets to see the
Speaker 2: players all spring long.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there are so many cliched answers here.
Speaker 1: The strength coach paying a strength coach, the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: with a new aggressive attacking mentality. So many things that
Speaker 1: you hear that are reguriated throughout.
Speaker 2: When will and of course Ken Greeley wants to know
Speaker 2: when will the twenty eighteen Solidrible T shirt be available? Ooh,
Speaker 2: it'll probably be The Solidrible shirt will probably be summer
Speaker 2: ish before the season. Yep.
Speaker 1: And for those that are wondering, we do have plans
Speaker 1: afoot to improve the ordering process.
Speaker 2: Yes, we do.
Speaker 1: We have some plans that we're working on here in
Speaker 1: March to make that better for you.
Speaker 2: Ours was like a three step process these past couple
Speaker 2: of years, and we're trying to make it a one stepper.
Speaker 1: We're going to make it easier, I promise, I promise you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but stay tuned because there's more on that front,
Speaker 2: perhaps sooner than that. I like this question a lot,
Speaker 2: and this is sort of football, sort of TV media,
Speaker 2: and then we can get to this giant question to
Speaker 2: finish it out. As a South Carolina fan, this comes
Speaker 2: to us from bo. I ask you both to try
Speaker 2: to formulate a reasonable argument that this is somehow based
Speaker 2: in reality and not just off season clickbait for diehards.
Speaker 2: And the attached image is from our pal Peter Burns,
Speaker 2: who is on the SEC Network. He hosts a bunch
Speaker 2: of stuff on there. He's great, has been in this
Speaker 2: business for a long time.
Speaker 1: And his quote is Tom Louganbill.
Speaker 2: It's it's secondhand, third hand. So it's Peter Burns quoting
Speaker 2: Tom Louganviill on South Carolina. Tom Louganviil, of course, of ESPN,
Speaker 2: And I guess the athletic I've never caps never seen
Speaker 2: a will Must Champ offense like this. No, lie, you
Speaker 2: would have thought they were old school Oregon with their tempo.
Speaker 1: Ooh, so.
Speaker 2: Is this the most late March tweet possible? Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: so basically, And I think ty you and I are
Speaker 2: an agreement. If South Carolina's offense is good, that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, it's right. That's more fun offense in college
Speaker 2: football at a place that hasn't necessarily been consistent offensively
Speaker 2: these past few years. And well, Must champions have not
Speaker 2: necessarily would consistent on offense. But South Carolina is playing
Speaker 2: against whom in March.
Speaker 1: They would be playing against themselves.
Speaker 2: They would be or air or oxygen or sleds or
Speaker 2: something like that. Also, playing fast does not necessarily mean
Speaker 2: playing well. Playing with tempo could also mean well, they
Speaker 2: went three and out super quickly. They really picked up
Speaker 2: the pace to just punt real quick quickly. I am
Speaker 2: there are certain coaches that I give the benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt offensively, like I am going to give Chad Morrison,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, Frost the benefit of the doubt that they
Speaker 2: are going to overhaul things on offense for their respective school.
Speaker 1: Will must Champ not so much in that category.
Speaker 2: Dan, not necessarily both Will must Champion terms of as
Speaker 2: a head coach and as somebody in charge of hiring
Speaker 2: and having a vision for the.
Speaker 1: Offense right right right exactly.
Speaker 2: There there have been a lot of recent stories of
Speaker 2: like will Mus's champions changed again, We're rooting for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And look, I love Tom Logan, Bill. I
Speaker 1: think he's fantastic on the sidelines. I think he always
Speaker 1: says something smart to say when he says something. This
Speaker 1: is an anecdote, and as you said, it is absolutely
Speaker 1: the most late March thing possible. To your point, playing
Speaker 1: fast does not mean you're playing well. Uh. South Carolina
Speaker 1: was improved offensively last year over the previous season. We
Speaker 1: can hope that they continue to improve. I just don't
Speaker 1: put a whole lot of stock in what you see
Speaker 1: at this stage in the game, because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of March national championships that come and go and
Speaker 1: don't translate to what we actually see in the fall.
Speaker 2: I have heard, ty, and this is secondhand, I have
Speaker 2: heard that South Carolina has been dominating the Manning Passing Agademy.
Speaker 2: They have been lights out. If you thought any of
Speaker 2: the lights were on with us in South Carolina offense now,
Speaker 2: I hope so. But there's a lot that goes into
Speaker 2: playing successfully with tempo other than just playing quickly, and
Speaker 2: so we're rooting for it. But that is the most
Speaker 2: late March opinion possible, and we hope it comes to fruition.
Speaker 2: But will we reference this if South Carolina falters with
Speaker 2: their new tempo offense. I think it's a good bet.
Speaker 2: I think it's a good bet.
Speaker 1: All right. So here's the way we're going to close
Speaker 1: this out, Dan, I'm at the risk of this question
Speaker 1: becoming its own show. Let me read off the question
Speaker 1: here and then we will figure out a concise way
Speaker 1: to answer it and perhaps bounce it out to the
Speaker 1: overballerhood at large. Oh my god, Okay, loaded, he says,
Speaker 1: good afternoon, gents. In October I am planning my first
Speaker 1: trip to America. Hmm. It'll be a solo jaunt. It's
Speaker 1: going to be very self indulgent. I mean, I'll be
Speaker 1: on the search for lots of food, lots of sport,
Speaker 1: lots to see. I'm looking for advice more than anything
Speaker 1: from you, find folks about what I should do. To
Speaker 1: give you an idea of my journey, I am flying
Speaker 1: to la planning to hire a car I love that,
Speaker 1: and drive around the country and end up in New York.
Speaker 1: I will then fly I.
Speaker 2: Really hope he's hiring like a personal driver to escort.
Speaker 1: That would be awesome, but hiring a car is still
Speaker 1: an awesome way to phrase it. Available by the way, absolutely,
Speaker 1: let's do this, buddy. I will then fly from New
Speaker 1: York to Vancouver, where I'll be spending time with my
Speaker 1: cousins before flying home to Australia.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 1: All in all, I'm planning to be there for about
Speaker 1: a month. The only real place I want Slash have
Speaker 1: to visit is New Orleans. I'm a Saints and Pelicans
Speaker 1: fan and I want to see them play there, not
Speaker 1: to mention experience the culture that is New Orleans. So
Speaker 1: with that in mind, one what are the key college
Speaker 1: stadiums to try and get to to see games of
Speaker 1: college football? Two? What is the best way to get
Speaker 1: cheap tickets? Is it still stub Hub or seat Geek?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 1: What are the best states for certain food? Barbecue, pizza,
Speaker 1: and random stuff? Just no seafood. I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: fan of it. Okay, I'll try it in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a fan of it normally. And four
Speaker 1: what is your must see quintessential totally American thing that
Speaker 1: I have to see and do? This? As we indicate,
Speaker 1: it could be its own show. Correct, This is a
Speaker 1: question of coming to America? What what do I do
Speaker 1: when I get here? Let's keep it college football here.
Speaker 1: What are the stadiums if you're going to go and
Speaker 1: drive around the country, if you're going to go out
Speaker 1: of your way after you hire the car to go
Speaker 1: and see anyone stadium, whether there's a game going on
Speaker 1: or not, what stadium would that be?
Speaker 2: Well, if he's going to be in New Orleans, just
Speaker 2: shoot up to Baton Rouge and go to Death Valley.
Speaker 2: That's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: I don't know what his exact timing will be, but
Speaker 2: it sounds like he's pretty flexible. I would go to
Speaker 2: LSU and I would get in touch with the great
Speaker 2: people of and the Valley Shook, the Podcat and Dan
Speaker 2: Davis and all those people, and it's a Jake Nazar
Speaker 2: and eat as much Cajun food at a tailgate as possible.
Speaker 2: And hopefully it's for a big LSU game. I don't
Speaker 2: have the LSU schedule in front of me, but hopefully
Speaker 2: a big SEC night game that'd be preferable. Otherwise, if
Speaker 2: he's starting in La, I mean go to USC game,
Speaker 2: I would say go to either. I mean you go
Speaker 2: to ut I think Texas, A and M would probably
Speaker 2: be more fun in a different and a unique Oklahoma
Speaker 2: would be really fun in Norman, uh, Stillwater would give
Speaker 2: you a good experience of what it's like to go
Speaker 2: to a very small, college centric town. If you're going
Speaker 2: to be going through Oklahoma, I think Colorado just in
Speaker 2: terms of seeing an awesome town and an awesome stadium,
Speaker 2: and just a geographically, because my recommendation would be to
Speaker 2: like hit as many of the National parks along the
Speaker 2: southwest Midwest. There's not a lot of Midwest National parks,
Speaker 2: but you know, go to Utah, go to the Grand
Speaker 2: the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 1: You got to go to the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2: I would say, hit as many of you know, the
Speaker 2: Purple Mountains, majesty, the Amber waves of grain that your
Speaker 2: path has to offer. Wegmans in Allentown obviously is just
Speaker 2: the center of culture as we know it in America.
Speaker 2: Best states for food California and Texas to me are
Speaker 2: pretty unbeatable. But if you're going to New Orleans, then
Speaker 2: load up. Don't if you don't like seafood, don't get
Speaker 2: see food will get you know, a roast beef po boy,
Speaker 2: get fried chicken at Willie May's Scotch House. Go to
Speaker 2: Koshan Butcher for sandwiches. You can't go wrong in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: There's also I would go to eat. It does a
Speaker 2: good job with city guides for food and eating. But
Speaker 2: if you need taco help in the Southwest, just get
Speaker 2: at us continually and I will help you out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the West Coast is good for pizza, barbecue. You can
Speaker 2: do well, and you can do probably unbeatable in Texas.
Speaker 2: To me, if you go to Austin, you'll have a
Speaker 2: great time eating barbecue and tacos and such. But I
Speaker 2: would I would say hit national parks, national parks. So
Speaker 2: here's a take in the beauty. Here's what we're going
Speaker 2: to do. Is there a million answers to this question.
Speaker 2: What we're going to do is we're going to throw
Speaker 2: a challenge out there because we have so many red
Speaker 2: blooded Americans who listen to this program. He's from Australia.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you mentioned that he.
Speaker 1: Is from Australia. Yes, yeah, make Google maps for us,
Speaker 1: Make Google maps, tweet them in at solid verbal mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: and Josh from Australia. Check our Twitter account, check to
Speaker 1: see what's coming in. We'll do our best to try
Speaker 1: and get those out to you because my senses, there
Speaker 1: are a million different opinions here and the best way
Speaker 1: to get it into some actionable format for you is
Speaker 1: to get it on a Google map. So for anyone
Speaker 1: out there, make some Google maps, send them on in.
Speaker 1: We'll make sure Josh gets him. He can pick from
Speaker 1: his favorites.
Speaker 2: And he's from Adelaide. I believe that's where Layton Hugh
Speaker 2: it is from. Okay, you the southern part of Australia. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just these are fun facts, ty, We're talking fun
Speaker 2: facts about America. Yeah, I'm trying to think anything else.
Speaker 2: What I would I mean, listen to a bunch of podcasts. Obviously,
Speaker 2: as you drive, stop off if you see something pretty
Speaker 2: alongside the road, have view a mountain, a waterfall, or something.
Speaker 2: Take a second. Life moves quickly, ty slow down.
Speaker 1: That's what I was with you, brother. All right. One
Speaker 1: final note here, Yes, if Villanova wins the national championship,
Speaker 1: mom H will win our basketball pool, the solid verbal one,
Speaker 1: the solid verbal one with hundreds of entries.
Speaker 2: I think Jody with and I has murdered both me
Speaker 2: and my parents.
Speaker 1: Literally are in the context of the pool.
Speaker 2: In the context of the pool. I'm looking right now,
Speaker 2: who's at the top.
Speaker 1: At the top, I think we've got our old friend Pete,
Speaker 1: so right.
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, Jody with and I has Michigan, as does
Speaker 2: Mama Rubinstein. I am in the thirteenth percent. Arizona was
Speaker 2: my national champ. Jody with and I has Michigan. I'm
Speaker 2: going I'm going to be in Chicago for the Final
Speaker 2: four game with Michigan playing Loyola of Chicago. Uh oh,
Speaker 2: so that's gonna be a total mess. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, mom H wins If Villanova wins, which
Speaker 1: you'll triumphun like any other here on the podcast.
Speaker 2: How do people feel about Villanova in Pennsylvania? Is it
Speaker 2: sort of like a pretty boy thing?
Speaker 1: It is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's what And it's not technically in phil
Speaker 2: it's just outside of film.
Speaker 1: And ard more. Yeah, Okay, beautiful campus. I've been there
Speaker 1: countless times. You know, anybody that went there, tons of
Speaker 1: people that went to Villanova. Okay, all the people I
Speaker 1: know are very, very nice. But it does have a
Speaker 1: bit of a stigma.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I want to say doctor Jane's husband went
Speaker 2: to Villanova. I believe that's true. That's I think my
Speaker 2: only connection.
Speaker 1: All right, well, thank you again for writing in. Okay
Speaker 1: for asking your questions. We've got thirteen pages of questions
Speaker 1: here and we couldn't get to nearly all of them.
Speaker 1: We're going to do our best to try and do
Speaker 1: at least one of these shows every so often, once
Speaker 1: a month. What have you? Maybe more ty, Yeah, just
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Speaker 2: Yes, and to close things out, Tie, just because he's
Speaker 2: asked this question twice and I think it's it comes
Speaker 2: from a good place. Travis asked if Benny Snell is
Speaker 2: the best college football running back. I don't believe that's true.
Speaker 2: Mark Schnell, Marchschnell great games, Tennessee All miss last year.
Speaker 2: He was ejected the Music City Bowl. But Bryce Love
Speaker 2: and Jonathan Taylor tailback and Harris ranch Over at Alabama
Speaker 2: and JK. Dobbins Miles Gaskin all exist. So he's in
Speaker 2: that group. He's in the like maybe not the eight tier,
Speaker 2: but I think he is in of college footballs. If
Speaker 2: you're talking about a good year of college football running backs,
Speaker 2: you have to include Benny Snell in that conversation. How
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 1: That sounds like a good way to close out the show.
Speaker 1: Dan done for that, go of there, Dan Rubinstein in
Speaker 1: New York City for myself, Ty Hilton Brand over here
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