1 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: There he is. 2 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 2: What's going on? 3 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: Gods? 4 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: How are you, buddy? 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Good buddy, how are you? 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: I'm well? 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: What's happy? Happy New Year to you? 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: You too? You too? Have we eating a lot today? 9 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 3: I have, well, I'm not eating and I'm wondering how 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: car Ravage is navigating that. 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: Actually, it was one of my questions for you. 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: A good part about the Dodgers Reds game last night 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: is that it moved ours to eight. So I'm not 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: a big eater, not that I'm fast every day, but 15 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: this one won't be very difficult. 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna be hungry though, right, we'll be hungry. 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: But I will say this, Gods, the Yankee Ballpark food 18 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: for the media is actually very good. 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: So right, what's your favorite thing? 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: Well, it depends. Last night I think they had skirt steak, 21 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: which was really good. Wow, And we at our six 22 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: o'clock and the sun hadn't even set yet, So that's 23 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: a good way to get into it. 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: It's a skirt steak. Jesus Christ. 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: Ravage, Yeah, really no, I'm not joking, right. 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: Listen, I am. I don't know what to do here. 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: Karl Ravage is with us. We started I guess already. 28 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: He is he is. 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: Fantastic at what it is. He's prepping in his hotel 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: right now. And I'm wondering, Carl because and I'll get 31 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: to my little incident here with Taylor mikey A in 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: a second, because I'm certain they think I should do 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: more prep work. But I'm wondering what prep work for 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 3: a game like this looks like. 35 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: For Karl Ravage, I would say it's learning about the 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: learning as much as I can about the two starting pitchers. 37 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: There's no secrets about the Yankees and the Red Sox, 38 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: but we have two puppies on the mountain tonight. You 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: know you got you got Cam Schlittler. You gotta be 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: very careful with his last name, Bill acknowledge that any 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: people have screwed up his last name. I think most 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: of the Yankees just call him schlit like schlitz Beer 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: a long time ago. So Schlitler, you got to learn 44 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: about him and interesting. I know him in a weird way, 45 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: Stu God, So I don't know him, but I know 46 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: his story. His dad is the police chief in the 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: town I grew up in and where my folks live. Yeah, 48 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: so his dad is the police chief in Needham, Massachusetts. 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: Which is where I grew up, and so I spoke 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: to him about that. He's from Walpole, mass Now, how 51 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 2: old are you, Stu? 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: I am fifty two fifty two. 53 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 2: So do you remember hearing about the snowplow game? 54 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: Of course, yes, yes, I remember. Yeah. 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: So the snowplow game occurred when Ron Meyer and the 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: Patriots were playing the Dolphins in nineteen eighty two, and 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 2: you remember it was snowing. It was a blizzard, and 58 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: for some reason they decided, you know, it's gonna be 59 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: okay both teams if you want to plow the field 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: a little small sort of snowplly kicking. And the guy 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: I who drove that was on work release from the 62 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 2: Walpole State Prison. That's the town that Cam Schlittler grew 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: up in, Walpole, Massachusetts. So that's the connection. And I 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: remember it very well growing up in New England that 65 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: this guy was on the snowfall cloud that allowed John 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Smith to kick a thirty three yard field goal. They 67 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: won the game three nothing over the Dolphins. So that's 68 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: a town he grew up in. The prison no longer 69 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: holds any inmates, it's closed, but his dad is the police. U. 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: So I learned all about Hitler and where he grew up. 71 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: And the other guy Early was at UVA a few 72 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: years ago, pitching with Brian O'Connor. He's made four major 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: league starts, four and I was going into Yankee Stadium 74 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: and a must win game against the best offense by 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: far in baseball. 76 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 4: Yes, dude, just to put into perspective what Conley Early 77 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: is doing tonight. Yeah, will be the first pitcher ever 78 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: to start a winner take all postseason game within thirty 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: days of his MLB debut. 80 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 81 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Still, I know you love staff, I know you 82 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: love stats. He's the youngest Red Sox pitcher to start 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: a postseason game since your boy, Babe Ruth in nineteen sixteen. 84 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: Why is he my boy, Babe Ruth? 85 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 5: You guys are the same age. 86 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: Help me out here. 87 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: With Taylor and mikey A, both of them are Yankee fans. Okay, Mikey, 88 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 3: I cannot believe I'm having this conversation and asking you 89 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: this question. Mikey A, a Yankee fan, wants the Yankees 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: to lose tonight. He'd rather lose the game and win 91 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: the war because he thinks that they lose. Aaron Boom 92 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: will get fired and maybe Cashman as well. Taylor, being 93 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 3: a true Yankee fan, is not worried about the big picture. 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: He's only worried about tonight. Who's right, who's wrong? This 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: is crazy. 96 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 5: There's no question who he's gonna say is right and wrong? 97 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: Right? 98 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: Well, what do you think? What do you think I'm 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: gonna say? 100 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: Dud Taylor's right? 101 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 5: Because you know you're not a fan when it comes well, 102 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 5: you can't be a fan when it comes to this 103 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 5: with your professionalism. 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: So I've been I mean I I'll be honest with you, 105 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 2: and having done what I've done for so long, I 106 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: have been accused of being biased for every team, regardless 107 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: of where I'm from or who I root for. I've 108 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: let you know I'm from Massachusetts. You would think I 109 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: would then be rooting for the Red Sox what I 110 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: do now, and Stu, you could probably appreciate this, Stu 111 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: got's when you're around these people long enough, and in 112 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: the case of both Aaron Boone and Alex Korra have 113 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: worked with them. I root for people. I don't care 114 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: what team wins. I do not care, so I would 115 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: take great pleasure, honest to God, and either one of 116 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: these guys not only winning this game, but winning a 117 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: World Series. I like when friends of mine do well. 118 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: I want to see them have success. I do not 119 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: have a horse in any of the races that I do, 120 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: and in this case, I like both of these guys. 121 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: I don't think if the Yankees lose tonight, Aaron Boone's 122 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 2: going to get fired. I mean, Aaron Boone's one of 123 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: the only guys that have taken a team, especially like 124 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: the Yankees in that pressure cooker, to a postseason in 125 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: seven of his first eight seasons. He's got Aaron Judge 126 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: on his side, which is, you know, which is like 127 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: an endorsement from the Triple A and every other organization 128 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: that endorses anybody. If Judge says I like Aaron Boone 129 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: and I want him in this clubos, there's a good 130 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: chance he's going to stay. So I don't think the 131 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: outcome of this is going to determine the fate of 132 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: Aaron Boone. If I worry Eki Fan, I'd want him 133 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: to win because I think I think they'd have as 134 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: good a chance to win a World Series as any 135 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: team in the American League. 136 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: I put mikey A in a bad spot because he 137 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: knows that we all know that you are friendly with 138 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 3: Aaron Boone. 139 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: So it's Cashman that he wants out. Okay, it is 140 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: Cashman that I want out, not Booon. 141 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: I think Cashman's going anywhere. 142 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you might as well roof for them to win. 143 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 144 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 5: I agree that neither is going to go anywhere. But 145 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: if there was going to be something, if there was 146 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 5: going to be one event to push it over the edge, 147 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 5: it would be losing two out of three at home 148 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 5: to the Boston Red Sox in a playoff series. 149 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: Well, there was a little risk reward. I mean, I 150 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: thought when Boone went out last night to talk to 151 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: Rodan and he left him in the game, I said 152 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: to myself, well, wow, they lost game one and here's 153 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: the decision to leave Rodan in. I understand the bullpen 154 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: the night before wasn't very good, but a lot of 155 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: that was on Weaver that if this blows up here 156 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: now now, that could be a chipping point. And I 157 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: still don't think he's getting fired. But my goodness, I 158 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 2: mean he said twenty pounds of you know what dumped 159 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: on him after Game one. That was a very big 160 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: conversation he had, and Rodan got the double play that 161 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: he needed, and obviously the bullpen was really good. 162 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: Carl, with how Alex managed the bullpen and pulling Beao 163 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: so quickly, did that kind of feel like the Red 164 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 4: Sox were going all in to win that game time, 165 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: no doubt. Without thinking about Game three? 166 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and he's really good about accountability in 167 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: that situation. Korra. After the game, it was quite clear 168 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: if you're going to leave Garrett Whitlock in to throw 169 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: almost fifty pitches, you're all in on trying to win 170 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: this game, knowing that you have a kid on the 171 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: mount in Game three at Yankee Stadium against the best offense, 172 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: no doubt about it. But as you know, to his credit, 173 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: he does seem to manage aggressively. We had this conversation 174 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: during the game last night. You tell me what you 175 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: guys think when you think about Aaron Boone and Alex Cora. 176 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: The perception is is that Korra manages using the analytics, 177 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: but more so relies on his instinct and his eyes 178 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: and what the game is telling him, and Boone relies 179 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: more on the analytics, even though he's been around baseball 180 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: since he was a child with his family being involved. 181 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: So that's the perception. You tell me what you think 182 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: the reality is. Is that fair to say that you 183 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: think Boone manages more on numbers and pre programmed and 184 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: Coorra manages more on his own gut and instincts at eyesight. 185 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: It feels like the Yankees go in with the script 186 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: and they don't really get off that script during the game. 187 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 4: And I think that's the biggest complaint with with Aaron 188 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: Boone and the Yankees, where it's like me and Mikey 189 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: were talking about it yesterday, where if you do get 190 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: rid of Cashman in this hypothetical situation where you can 191 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: only get rid of Cashman or Boone, you get rid 192 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 4: of Cashman, but then you tell Boone next year, no analytics. 193 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: You just have to manage off guts little. 194 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: I don't think there's an organization say no analytics or 195 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: even little analytics. 196 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 3: Way, But Carl, Carl, wouldn't you prefer your manager to 197 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: have a like a mix of both. 198 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: I think he does. Yeah, Yeah, I think the game 199 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I think he does. I think last 200 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: that was an example of it. You know, I think 201 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: that they were people who would have loved to see 202 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: him take Rodan out of the game. He didn't do it. 203 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's quite clear that he was convinced by Rodan, 204 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: and Carlos admitted it after Uh, I want to stay in, 205 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: you know, he said. I watched the way he walked out, 206 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: apparently for Yankee pitchers, the way he walks out you 207 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: if he's taking you out or there may be some 208 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: wiggar room. Rodin felt there was wiggaroom. He convinced him, 209 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm staying in the game. 210 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: Postseason game certainly feel different for the players. I am wondering, 211 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: do they feel different for the broadcasters. 212 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, Yeah, I do. I think that 213 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: there's far more attention paid to making sure you're really 214 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: into the game. I mean, one of the texts I 215 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: can you know, I can share a text with you. 216 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: I'm not pulling back the curtain too far, but so. 217 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 2: David Cohne, who of course works with us, was involved 218 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: in a text chain with us this morning, and his 219 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: response about last night was, you know, great to be 220 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: involved with just the game. Loved where we were at, 221 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: stayed on the game the whole time, so it was 222 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 2: cool to see everyone pivot to just doing the game. 223 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 2: Very well done. By everyone involved. And I think what 224 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: he means is when we do regular season games, microphones 225 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: are on players, there's a lot of other things, you know, 226 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: your storytelling, et cetera. And here, every inning is intensified, 227 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: every pitch is magnified. And we've had two really good games, 228 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: I mean outstanding games between the Red Sox and Yankees. 229 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: The Chapman stuff and the ninth inning with the base 230 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: loaded was amazing, and then last night was as exciting 231 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: as you get because Raphael Is ball was a few 232 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: feet from being a game tying home run. So great games, 233 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: it's very easy to get get into the game and 234 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: stay laser focused on it. 235 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 5: We talked a lot about gut versus analytics. What kind 236 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 5: of leash do you think these two starters are going 237 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 5: to have tonight, because I imagine it's going to be 238 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 5: very short. 239 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, I think very short. I think 240 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: that's I think that's accurate. You know the thing about 241 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: the Red Sox now hitters, they've been exposed to all 242 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: of these pitchers twice now. They've seen Cruise, they've seen Williams, 243 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: they've seen Ben dar back to back days. Those guys 244 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: can all still pitch, but you've seen them. Now. If 245 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: their stuff is good, they're going to be fine and 246 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: they'll get through it. In the case of the Red Sox, 247 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: I don't foresee anyway. And again I wouldn't put a 248 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: pass Corps to ask. I wouldn't put it past Whittlot 249 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: to say I'm available. But he is their guy. He 250 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: is the one that they need to have able to 251 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: be ready, and after forty seven pitch, I don't see 252 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: how that's possible. But the Red Sox have an identity. 253 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: You know, there's beyond Garrett Crochet and maybe Roman Anthony, 254 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: who of course hasn't played many games at all. There's 255 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: an identity about them that doesn't suggest that David Ortiz 256 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: and Manny Ramirez days, the no More Garcia Para days, 257 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: the Carlia Streemsky days. If you want to go back, 258 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: like Alex Bregman is not the Alex Bregman when he 259 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: was younger and playing in Houston. Trevor Story is not 260 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 2: the Rockies Trevor Story. Those are two very good players. 261 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: But look at the other lineup. You know, you could 262 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: start with Bellinger, you could go to Stanton. You have 263 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: judged they have some you know, monumental stars. Boston doesn't 264 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: have the idea that a Connolly early is starting this game. 265 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: And you may go to Wilson again and Weissert and 266 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: Zach Kelly Chapman. Maybe for two winnings, he'll figure out 267 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: a way to try to get through it. All I 268 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: do is knock on wood and hope that the game 269 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 2: is close into the late innings, because with these kids 270 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: on the mound, either way, it could be four five 271 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: one after two winnings. 272 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 4: You know, you never know, Carl I was at game 273 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 4: one and endgame two, and my heart was in my 274 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: stomach in that seventh inning, first and second Fernando Cruz 275 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: pitching to Rafaela. One of the things I've learned from 276 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: Stu Gotts is you have to find a way to 277 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: one up the take. Can you make the case to 278 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 4: retire Fernando Cruz's number? 279 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: If you're the Yankees, you have learned well, my friend, 280 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you. 281 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: You want it right in? Should we just put it 282 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: in Monument Park? Let me just do it, maybe before 283 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: the game a pregame ceremony. Given what he did last night, 284 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: Let's just get Cruises number right up there next to 285 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 2: you know, Mantles and Ruths and I love it the idea. 286 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure if we bring that to Randy Levine he'd 287 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: sign right off on it. 288 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: Maybe the statue with with how passionate he was coming off. 289 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: The mound, Yeah, maybe that's that's the video saying I 290 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: was terrified this ball was going out of the park. Carl. 291 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: Back to the fan bases, I think you're biased, which 292 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: is which of the fan bases is the loudest when 293 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: it comes to that, like the worst. 294 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: Well, having had this, you know, first two games and 295 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: the entire series in Yankee Stadium, it's been the Yankees. 296 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: Last night, we had a guy screaming at us, so 297 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: you know, we're right behind home plate. We had a 298 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: guy screaming at us, stop rooting. You're rooting, hey, Cony, Cony, 299 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: they're rooting. He's wearing a Yankee shirt. He wouldn't say 300 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: which team we were rooting for, but social media certainly 301 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: comes down on the side of me rooting for the 302 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: New York Yankees. So I I don't know, I have 303 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: a Yank guys screaming, no rooting. I'm assuming if I 304 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: were rooting for the Yankees in his mind, he'd be 305 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: fine with it, so he must think I root for 306 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: the Red Sox, where most of social media thinks I'm 307 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: all about Aaron Judge, so you know, which means to me, 308 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: we're doing it right down the middle. 309 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: And it's great. What did that fan? What David Cohen 310 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: to do about it? 311 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: I don't know, because Coney, of course, Cony Coney is 312 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: one of those who just doesn't give to bleed. He 313 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: doesn't care, like, really, what are you talking about? So 314 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: he kind of played the you know, he was what 315 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: what rooting? What what do you do? Pointing he's, you know, 316 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 2: hand gesturing. He's got his headsets on, so he's pretending 317 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: you can't hear anything. I don't know, but the guy 318 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: was just looking up at us, screaming, no rooting. 319 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: I like this Cone. They're rooting. If anyone's rooting, it's 320 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: David Cone. I'm sorry. I'm just gonna say it's not 321 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: called remigh. 322 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: He did pitch for both teams. 323 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: But you're right, yes, but I don't blame listen. I 324 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: don't blame broadcasters. If they want to root, I know 325 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: you don't do it. You want to stay in neutrol. 326 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: I've told Will Bond this, I've told so many people this, 327 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: I don't mind if broadcasters want to sprinkle in their 328 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 3: fandom into the broadcast. 329 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I really don't. 330 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I look, I've seen I forget where it was. 331 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 2: I just watched a telecast where they had basically one 332 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: representative of one team and another representing the other rooting 333 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 2: for the team. I think it was the Ryder Cup 334 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: where I saw where they had one guy you rooting 335 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: for Europe and one guy rooting for the US, which 336 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: which worked out really well for Europe the way things went. 337 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: But you know Stu Gott's I reached out to Jill 338 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: Buck this morning because I know Buck has gone through this, 339 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: and I said, what in the world. His last text 340 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: to me was hanging there, I get it. Don't let 341 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: it change you or take away your fun blank them 342 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: so you know, and in a lot of ways. He 343 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: sent me a great article too, which ultimately said, you're 344 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: you're thinking about or worrying about validation from people you 345 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: don't know, and you have no respect for you respect yourself. Ultimately, 346 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: the article said, as long as you are comfortable with 347 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: what you are doing, then you're fine, and you can't 348 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: worry about what you know what social media or trolls 349 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: are saying. But as he said, as I know, as 350 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: you know, you know, we are human beings. We have families. 351 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: People don't want to see that crap out there about 352 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: their dad or their son, or their husband, et cetera. 353 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm glad that. 354 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: I'm glad Buck said that to you because Joe Buck 355 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: has become a friend. He's a friend of the show, 356 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: and we have had that conversation with Joe Buck where 357 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: I have told him, hey, what do you care? 358 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: You're Joe fucking Buck. 359 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: Who cares what some guy on Twitter has to say 360 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 3: about you and your call? 361 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: And so I'm glad you both arrived there. That's great. 362 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've been there. But I just thought, given 363 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 2: baseball and his history with it, he'd be a great 364 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 2: person to give some perspective on it. And I like you. 365 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 2: I like Joe A. Lott. He's a great guy. Yeah, 366 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: he's a great sounding word. So it was a nice conversation. 367 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, he really saw into it. That's what he just decided, Hey, 368 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: fuck it, I don't care anymore. 369 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: Suck into it. 370 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 4: Carl On FanDuel Stugatts was saying that he likes the 371 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: Red Sox plus one thirty four on the money line tonight, 372 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: and then I had to remind him, hey, it's the 373 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 4: anniversary of Bucky Dent's home run, And then he said, 374 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 4: a game from that long ago doesn't really make an impact, 375 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: but you kind of know baseball baseball lore. Does a 376 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 4: game from that long ago kind of carry over tonight 377 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: with the ghost of you know, baseball past. 378 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 379 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 2: No, I think I think the ghost flew out with 380 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: Casper only because of their success recently here. You know, 381 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 2: Boston of course has won all these World Series and 382 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: so four they've they've kind of owned the Yankees in 383 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: their head to head. I'm sure Stuke God's immediately responded with, well, 384 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: the Bucky Dent homer wasn't even in the postseason. I 385 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: mean that was to get into the playoffs, So. 386 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: A regular season game, right than? 387 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: I think all I think those things flew out the window. 388 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: H in four and Bloody Sock and Kevin Malar coming 389 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: from three to zero and don't let us win the first. 390 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: I don't think it applies anymore. Had they lost those series, 391 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: it probably would, But no, I don't think people think 392 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: that way anymore. If anything, the Yankees are the ones 393 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 2: that need to get the victory against the Red Sox. 394 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 3: STI Gott's here for Omaha Steaks. 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Probably the Phillies when Zach Wheeler was there, and 421 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: I'm not certain that they can't. I think they can 422 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: still win it without him. The Mariners, when they're healthy 423 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: and going right, and that means all the offensive players 424 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: are good, can be there. I think the World Series 425 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: that ESPN sends out prior to the postseason, I think 426 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: I had the Mariners over the Phillies or vice versa. 427 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't even remember, but I think those are the 428 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: two teams that I had in the World Series, which 429 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 2: makes for some really easy simple travel Philadelphia, Seattle. Uh. 430 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: What is better calling the game yourself or listening or 431 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: watching your son. 432 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: Call a game? 433 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: Wow? So is it is it better more enjoyable for 434 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: me to listen or watch him call a game or 435 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: me do a game? 436 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: Yes? 437 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 3: I can tell you like watching my daughter play sports. 438 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: I played lacrosse growing up. It's easy to play. Watching 439 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 3: her play, I'm a nightmare. I can't watch it, you know, yeah, I. 440 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: Know, you know, it's it's a very it's a good 441 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: question and I and it's funny. I just had this 442 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: conversation with Craig Breslow, not about his children, but he 443 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: of course is the guy who is putting this Red 444 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: Sox team together. And I said, you tell me when 445 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: you sit up in your box, are you are you 446 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: a pitcher, are you a manager or are you the 447 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: general manager? And is it easy here to pitch or 448 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 2: to watch? And he said, oh my god, pitching is 449 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: so much easier than watching. But in the case of Sam, 450 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: watching the athletic games was hard. Seeing him do this 451 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 2: is rewarding and wonderful and he's damn good at it. 452 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'd say watching him brings me more joy 453 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 2: and listening to him because he's in control in an 454 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: athletic event. You know you're not. You got teammates and 455 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: you can make human error. He's really good at this. 456 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 2: So it's more fun to watch him than go and 457 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: do a game. Although I'll tell you tonight's a push. 458 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: I get to call a game three of an elimination 459 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: game Yankees, Red Sox. This is a once in a 460 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 2: lifetime and if you believe all the reporting We're not 461 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: going to do Wildcard games next year, so this is 462 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: this is what a fitting way to go out to 463 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: call a game like this. It's amazing. If this is 464 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: our last Wildcard game, sure. 465 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: You're setting it up. I mean it's Yankees Red Sox. 466 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 5: Any moment could be the next Boon home run or 467 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 5: a brawl that throws Don Zimmer to. 468 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: The floor, the Buffet Dent home run or Bucky Dent. 469 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: Well that wasn't the playoffs. 470 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 5: But do you ever get like see it happening and 471 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 5: you're getting sort of nervous as the play is going 472 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: to be shown over and over and your call of 473 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 5: it is going to be shown over and over again 474 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 5: with a series this big. 475 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: So you guys do got you know Bill Peedo right 476 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 2: of course? Yeah, So, Billy and I used to live 477 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: together in Binghamton, New York. I don't know if you 478 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: knew that, but there was a whole bunch of us 479 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: in bingham To, New York. Trey Wingo was there, A 480 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: Pedo was there. I was there, and Peto was one 481 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: of these obsessed guys with the medium. Al Michaels god given, 482 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: Now that's God given. Raby right there, Al Michael's god 483 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: given so he was into all of the broadcast stuff, 484 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: and I was into the sports side of it. I 485 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 2: enjoyed the competition. I enjoyed playing more than I did broadcasting. 486 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: So I would say to answer that question, I don't 487 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 2: like I'm I don't script the final call. I've done, 488 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,719 Speaker 2: you know, championships of college World Series, and literally I 489 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: don't generally have something in my head that I want 490 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: to say. I think. I think after last night, redemption 491 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: for the Yankees was not something I wrote down while 492 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: prepping five hours before the game. It just felt like 493 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: they got they were getting hammered from the night before. 494 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: This was a redemption game. They get the lefties in 495 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: and Boone made the right call. So I don't worry 496 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: too much about it. But I definitely am aware of 497 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: bases loaded, no out down by two, that this is 498 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 2: a big moment and let's see how Chapman navigates it 499 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: and if Stanton's going to get the homer. So I 500 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: don't I don't fret over it. I don't worry too 501 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: much about it to answer your question, because I know 502 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 2: a lot of people use these opportunities as as here's 503 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: my moment. Here here's my chance. I'm gonna say something, 504 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: al Michaels, do you believe in miracles? 505 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: I I I don't. 506 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: Maybe that'll that'll cause me to have my career end 507 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 2: after thirty three years, but I don't do that. 508 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: I think you're fine. Car. I think Binghamton seemed like 509 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: the place to be back in the day. Jesus it was. 510 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: It was a launching no no doubt about it, launching pad. 511 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: And many of those guys that that we work with 512 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 2: or or lived with, or went out to get chicken 513 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: wings with, are all still in the field. One of 514 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame broadcaster at Upstate New York, his 515 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: name's Matt and Okahea and of course wingos had great success. 516 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: Peto myself, it was it was a bit of a 517 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: launching pad. 518 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: Hecats the bear cats. He just wanted to say the 519 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 3: bear cats because he's me. That's that's all he wanted 520 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: to do. 521 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: By the way, I went to Sudie Dinghamton, I took her. 522 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: I took her. I have a master's from Sudie Dinghamton 523 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: because when I was working at w b NG, which 524 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: was the powerhouse in Binghamton, New York, he was in 525 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: the basement of a nursing home. And when the when 526 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: Pedo left, he was the weekday sports guy. I was 527 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 2: the weekend sports guy when he left. I didn't get 528 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: elevated to the weekday sports. I was relegated to continue 529 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: to report You're really good at that, and just keep 530 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: doing the weekend sports. And at that point it was 531 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: as I called my father and was, you know, sort 532 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: of commiserating about this decision. I got the impression he 533 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: was sort of like, Okay, well you want to come 534 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: home and get a real job. So I went to 535 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: Sudie Binghamton for night courses and in management and leadership. 536 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: So I'm all about the Bearcats, Corneizer, Bearcats love it. 537 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: Where'd you go to? Undergrad? 538 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 2: Ethica? 539 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: The Boss? You a dead fan? You like the grateful Dead? 540 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: You know my brother is a is a dead or 541 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: diehard dead fan. I never got into it. But Matt 542 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: Ravitch or you'd love. He's seen more Dead concerts than 543 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 2: most dead heads have, Big Dead guy, not me. 544 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: All right, I'd like to have Matt on the show 545 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: if you don't mind, can I Oh. 546 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: You would be entertained, I promise you. 547 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 548 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 3: Wait, So Carl, when you got into the industry. You 549 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 3: were not thinking I'm gonna call. Like if I told 550 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 3: you way back then now that you would be calling 551 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 3: Game three Yankees Red Sox Yankee Stadium, you would have 552 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: laughed me out of the room, right. 553 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, now that was you know the only reason I 554 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: got into this field was I was a high school 555 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: soccer player in Needham, Massachusetts, and absolutely destroyed my knee. 556 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: And when I went to a guidance counselor and a cast, 557 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: she said, what are you interested in? I said, well, 558 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: not math and not science. So I like English, and 559 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: I like writing and I like sports. And she said, well, 560 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: how about communications? And I said, okay, what is that? 561 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: That sounds good? I started writing for the Needham Times, 562 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: covering the high school hockey team, and that's what led 563 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: to Ithaca and then Binghamton and Harrisburg and ESPN. But 564 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: you got to remember, I mean, my bread and butter 565 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: was in the studio, you know. I of course hosted 566 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: Baseball to Night forever. So the idea that Iran transitioned 567 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: into play by play, and I'm grateful for it because 568 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: we got rid of Baseball Tonight. No, I never would 569 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: have thought it. I never was one of those that 570 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 2: sat there on a couch and broadcasted games. When I 571 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 2: was younger, ever was I was a run around sport guy. 572 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: That's how I used to That's how I tell my 573 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: boys that used to be on computers and stuff and 574 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: said no, no, no, outside and run around. And golf isn't 575 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: to run around sport. So we gonna go out and 576 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: we're going to run around. And I was more interested 577 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: in that side of it. 578 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up baseball tonight. I've had this 579 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 3: conversation with boog Shabi. That is the most difficult job. 580 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: Hosting that show, to me, was the most difficult job 581 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: in broadcasting. 582 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: Is that fair? 583 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean I've heard people say it obviously having 584 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: done it for so long, and it wasn't you learn, 585 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: you know tricks, and it certainly has served me well. 586 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: You learn when you have no script or the monitors 587 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: go out and you're doing a highlight show, but you 588 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: can hear it, so you assume the people at home 589 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 2: are seeing it. You hear a name and you kind 590 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: of repeat the name. There are a lot of things 591 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: that you learn, and I got to a place where 592 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: I liked when things screwed up. We were doing a 593 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: show one night with Kruck and we had robotic cameras, 594 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: the early days of robotic cameras, And at one point 595 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: when he's on camera, one of the robotic cameras is 596 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: moving towards the set and it's not stopping, so there's 597 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: nobody behind it, and the robotic camera banged into the set. 598 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: While Kruck was talking, I kind of like when those 599 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: things happen. I liken it to a pilot who is 600 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: trying to move in and around thunderstorms, and you try 601 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 2: to make it so that the passengers don't know it. 602 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: I used to like the challenges when things didn't go 603 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: according to plan, but nobody at home would know it. 604 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: Yes, that's where I'm most comfortable, no question about it. 605 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: The two best words in sports. Game three, Paul Ravage 606 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: will be on the call Yankees and Red Sox at 607 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: ESPN tonight. We know it's a busy time for you. 608 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: We appreciate it. We look forward to the call of 609 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 3: your game. I look forward to having your brother on. 610 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean, you'll do that. God's thanks for to be 611 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: with all you guys. I appreciate it. 612 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy someone wanted the Yankees to lose. Who's a 613 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Yankee fit? It's not. 614 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, you just make it up. 615 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, all right, take care. That was That 616 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: was Carl. That was a lot of fun. I'd like 617 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: to do it more often if we could.