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Speaker 1: baby you know the name flame, my bro also known
Speaker 1: as my roe Flame.
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Speaker 2: from fatherhood to politics, shouting now comics, just paying homage.
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Speaker 3: Can no this?
Speaker 1: Hey hey hey, this is comedian playing my rowe and
Speaker 1: welcome to this week's episode of Black and Learn. We
Speaker 1: are so happy that you guys joined us today along
Speaker 1: here with my wonderful producer, mister Aaron Howard and my
Speaker 1: gorgeous co host, The lady took herself the one and
Speaker 1: only icons. It's Bobby Clifford. How are you, Bobby?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 2: Dal how you doing?
Speaker 1: My voice is a little here me today. I need
Speaker 1: to take some weights off of it. But right now
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a very interesting trying to events happening
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks byby. So I just
Speaker 1: want to jump right into it. I want to jump
Speaker 1: right into something that I have been saying and something
Speaker 1: that I am so pleased that they have finally come
Speaker 1: to terms with and they have ousted George Santo's from.
Speaker 3: Congress, and I take it. I will take it, and
Speaker 3: I will take you.
Speaker 2: He went out like sour grapes though he's spilling the
Speaker 2: beans on everybody's talking about adultery, insider training.
Speaker 1: Well, why wouldn't he He lied to get the job,
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't he?
Speaker 3: Oh, my god, was he telling the truth?
Speaker 2: Asked the question, Oh, he could be telling the truth,
Speaker 2: but god, I would like to think that he's at
Speaker 2: one point could kind of go out. I'd say like
Speaker 2: a man, but I'll say like a grown up.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said, because I almost say something else,
Speaker 1: like a like a drag queen, which he's making money again,
Speaker 1: back on a cameo. He's making big money doing cameos now,
Speaker 1: so he has went over and started doing cameos. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, hundreds of thousand dollars to do personal cameos
Speaker 1: for people. That is the scariest part. From what I hear,
Speaker 1: Rouma has that he might be a contestant on next season.
Speaker 1: Is RuPaul's rag race. Let's just sit back and see.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I saw him on something on a
Speaker 2: clip and he was there was an interview. It was
Speaker 2: one of the talk big talking heads that we saw.
Speaker 2: But I was just like cliking past it and they
Speaker 2: asked him. So I stopped when I heard this, You know,
Speaker 2: are you afraid of going to jail? And he says, well, yes,
Speaker 2: nobody wants to go to Chailey he was. I was
Speaker 2: happy to see that somebody actually posed it to him
Speaker 2: that he actually does have some some legal troubles. It's
Speaker 2: not just all about losing his seat. But I'm hoping he.
Speaker 3: Has ruma has it.
Speaker 1: He lost his seat long before he lost seat.
Speaker 2: Kathy Hoko that the governor is going to have to
Speaker 2: have a special election fingers crossed. He was the first
Speaker 2: Republican in quite a while that they'll get a Democrat
Speaker 2: back in that seat. But that won't happen. It's like
Speaker 2: seventy or eighty days after after he was actually out,
Speaker 2: so it'll be some time after the new year before
Speaker 2: before they do that. Fingers crossed.
Speaker 3: It's the question, maby wasn't even a Republican.
Speaker 1: With so many laves being sputed from George Santos, we
Speaker 1: don't know anything to be true.
Speaker 3: We don't know anything to be true.
Speaker 1: We don't know anything to be true except that he
Speaker 1: did drag shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, you're you're exactly right. He's it's the truth,
Speaker 2: that's absolutely the truth. I think it seems like a
Speaker 2: lot of politicians they'll flame right now, are like flipping,
Speaker 2: Like RFK Junior is now all of a sudden, he's
Speaker 2: going to be an independent so that he can run.
Speaker 2: But he's actually a Democrat, you know, there their mansion.
Speaker 2: I mean, god knows what he was. I supposedly a Democrat,
Speaker 2: but but he had very Republican tendencies. So I don't
Speaker 2: know what any of them do. Sometimes I think they
Speaker 2: do whatever whatever they can do just to get into
Speaker 2: the get their their bottom into the chair. But he's
Speaker 2: not the only one. Kevin McCarthy is also saying that
Speaker 2: he's he's retiring from Congress at the end of the
Speaker 2: month or the end of the year. So this is
Speaker 2: going to lower the GOP gap to I think it's
Speaker 2: going to only be two seats now at this point.
Speaker 1: McCarthy should have retire after the tenth vote that he
Speaker 1: didn't get.
Speaker 2: You, yeah, he should have. Well, when they ousted him,
Speaker 2: I think they've just made it absolutely I think they've
Speaker 2: made it absolutely miserable for him. So you know, he's
Speaker 2: finally out, given his final speech, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Let's see what what goes in with his seat as well.
Speaker 2: Fingers and toes crossed.
Speaker 1: Well, I see that they wouldn't have to they won't
Speaker 1: have the Hunter Biden. Then they're all over Hunter Biden.
Speaker 1: And all of this, to me is the decoy or
Speaker 1: the the overplay for the overplay, for the underplay, because
Speaker 1: it is all too cloud President Joe Biden. To make
Speaker 1: Biden look bad. We've been talking about this on laugh
Speaker 1: on him, by the good God for two seasons. Oh
Speaker 1: it's good. They will do anything that they can do
Speaker 1: to discredit this man, to make him look bad. But
Speaker 1: y'all keep hollering. By his age, he was old when
Speaker 1: he won. He was two hundred twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure he didn't want to run then,
Speaker 2: but there wasn't much in there. And he really believes
Speaker 2: in the constitution and in a strong democracy. So he
Speaker 2: kind of you know, brushed his pants off and got
Speaker 2: up and went in. Yeah, of the Hunter Biden had
Speaker 2: said that he would he wouldn't go into a closed
Speaker 2: a closed hearing. He is willing to go into to
Speaker 2: a public hearing. So if they had nine more indictments
Speaker 2: on him, we'll have to see, We'll have to see
Speaker 2: what happens, see what happens with him.
Speaker 1: It didn't change the game plan on Hunter Biden because
Speaker 1: the original the original.
Speaker 3: Deal was, you know, and he did pay his taxes
Speaker 3: and he paid.
Speaker 2: It all paid. The pact that I find oh go ahead, Sorry.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, come on, come on no.
Speaker 2: The pact that I find I find strange flame is
Speaker 2: that he admitted all of this. He came out years ago,
Speaker 2: two years ago, or whenever he had done the ping.
Speaker 2: He paid everything. He admitted to the to the gun charges,
Speaker 2: like you know, he admitted his piece of it. He
Speaker 2: said that he was irresponsible. He admitted to the prostitutes
Speaker 2: and the escorts and all of it. He already. So
Speaker 2: when they start to bring up more charges like they're
Speaker 2: discovering something, go back to and listen to what his
Speaker 2: original interview was. He listed it all. So I don't
Speaker 2: understand why now all of a sudden people are up
Speaker 2: and armous when he already squealed on himself, for the
Speaker 2: love of God, I don't get it. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: They really already come to a deal, and so many
Speaker 1: people have done, have gotten lesser charges. But this is
Speaker 1: all because this is the sitting president absolute that they're
Speaker 1: trying to have issues with to make Biden and Biden.
Speaker 1: What they do know about President Joe Biden is that
Speaker 1: he does love his family and his children, and.
Speaker 3: Yes, and this.
Speaker 1: Could be a distraction, and this could be something just
Speaker 1: to infiltrate his mind and his heart so that you
Speaker 1: would be on his a game to be the good
Speaker 1: president because the options that we have are just not
Speaker 1: looking good for us. So they figure Frazzler the singing
Speaker 1: you're frazzler, the man who has a million responsibilities, mostly
Speaker 1: from the last administration, to clean up and go after
Speaker 1: his family. I think that that was a line from
Speaker 1: Spider Man when the Goblin said attack the heart, and
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing there. They can't get Biden on
Speaker 1: his politics, they can't get Biden on who he is
Speaker 1: as a man, but they can go after his children
Speaker 1: and his family, and that's exactly what they are doing.
Speaker 2: That is his achilles heel. I mean, I will say
Speaker 2: he is so open about how close he is with
Speaker 2: his family and his guilt. It's it's like a survivor's
Speaker 2: guilt for losing his wife and his daughter is so
Speaker 2: palpable that that and it's hard I have to say.
Speaker 2: In my own family, we have addicts, and it's there's
Speaker 2: such guilt that goes with that too, being a parent.
Speaker 2: So I think they they found him in the in
Speaker 2: his weak spot. So let's see what happens. Let's see
Speaker 2: what happens.
Speaker 3: But prayers to prayers to Joe, and prayers to.
Speaker 1: Doctor Jill Biden the first lady, because they're all the family,
Speaker 1: and prayers to America because I'm telling you all right now,
Speaker 1: y'all looking at what Hunter Biden did. His father was
Speaker 1: not involved in his business practices. Did he use his
Speaker 1: dad's last name for cloud, I'm sure he did, But
Speaker 1: that is what a lot of celebrities.
Speaker 3: So many sports.
Speaker 1: So many people do that and they used that their
Speaker 1: their their you know, their famous whoever's name to say hey,
Speaker 1: I'm this is I'm affiliated with this person. I affiliated
Speaker 1: with that person. The problem is the monsters that are
Speaker 1: going after Joe Biden, President Biden. The monsters that are
Speaker 1: going after him are the monsters that want to be
Speaker 1: put in positions to be the monsters that will be
Speaker 1: in power to make everybody else bow down to their monsterism. Bullshit,
Speaker 1: I call bullshit. That's what the little boy said is real.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was hysterical. That wass And what's
Speaker 2: the worst is as parents like even say your kids,
Speaker 2: you can't you can't be responsible for your kids, say like,
Speaker 2: he wasn't telling his son to use his name, So
Speaker 2: even if his son used it, it wasn't like Joe
Speaker 2: was out there, you know, glad handing and and saying
Speaker 2: I'm Joe Biden, so you have to do for my kid.
Speaker 2: So well, anyway, Dell, this is all going to come
Speaker 2: out in the wash. I hope to god it comes
Speaker 2: out the way that that we want. But it does distract.
Speaker 2: So here we are again. We've talked about this before.
Speaker 2: Flame Instead of talking about what the real issues are.
Speaker 2: What are we discussing. We're discussing a distraction, something that's
Speaker 2: just pulling away from from what's actually going on. That's good,
Speaker 2: and speaking about what's going on that was good. Kamala Harris,
Speaker 2: did you see that she has had the most tie
Speaker 2: breaking boats cast by a VP in history. She's got
Speaker 2: the Golden gavel?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she uh.
Speaker 1: You know, Bobby and I had my issues with Kamala
Speaker 1: Harris when she first uh, when she first threw her
Speaker 1: having the ring.
Speaker 3: I said it publicly even on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that she has grown on me,
Speaker 1: but I can't see what she has gatted in a
Speaker 1: way of anything that Joe.
Speaker 3: Biden, no, why haven't either to help push So.
Speaker 1: That part, to me makes me look at her with
Speaker 1: a different set of eyes. You know, she is working it.
Speaker 2: On now and she's learning from a master.
Speaker 3: She's learning.
Speaker 1: She definitely is learning from somebody who has been experienced
Speaker 1: in politics for what fifty years, as long.
Speaker 3: As nobody been forty fifty years.
Speaker 2: Okay, but I think he was twenty he was twenty
Speaker 2: nine right when he when he became a senator. I
Speaker 2: believe he was the youngest, like well, the youngest in
Speaker 2: his area, I believe. So if he's eighty.
Speaker 1: One, two thousand, no, now he's twenty twenty nine, good guy,
Speaker 1: but his age has nothing to do with his credibilities,
Speaker 1: for his experience or that he is doing the job.
Speaker 1: Because everything that he said he was going to do,
Speaker 1: for the most part, he has pretty much done.
Speaker 3: Now. There are some organizations black.
Speaker 1: Folks included, that we are try, Yeah, that we are
Speaker 1: still waiting on. But remember we have to remember he
Speaker 1: is one person, and it takes two terms as the
Speaker 1: president of these United States to make real significant change.
Speaker 1: We have to give him a second term so we
Speaker 1: can see what he's.
Speaker 3: Going to do.
Speaker 1: Because the second one, the other one who wants the
Speaker 1: second term and not consecutively, have told you from day one,
Speaker 1: I will be a dictator from day one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh no, only on day one, he says, only
Speaker 4: on day one, because what he's going to do is
Speaker 4: he's going to pull the constitution right, He's going to
Speaker 4: make it so we won't even be called it.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell would call himself after that.
Speaker 2: But he's going to wipe everything out on day one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't even can't even ough makes me
Speaker 2: sick that he has not fallen in the polls at all.
Speaker 1: Well, let's go to something else, since we already own
Speaker 1: glooming doing with politics, and this is gloom and doing.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you the joy in this story
Speaker 1: for me. So we lost we recently lost Norman Lear.
Speaker 1: Norman Lear was atrical part of my childhood. Not that
Speaker 1: I met him when I was a kid, but fortunately
Speaker 1: I was able to meet him in twenty nineteen, Thank
Speaker 1: you God, and thank you Tiffany Hattish. But in twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen they were remaking The Jeffersons and Tiffany was playing
Speaker 1: on there. I always wanted to meet him because he
Speaker 1: was mad. All in the Family, Good Times, The Jeffersons,
Speaker 1: so many shows that we watched, some family TV we
Speaker 1: grew up with. I wanted Edith to be my mother.
Speaker 1: I wanted Florida to be my mother. I wanted James
Speaker 1: to be my daddy and my boyfriend go figure. But
Speaker 1: there was a character on All in the Family named
Speaker 1: Beverly Lasale. It was a drag queen. At that time
Speaker 1: they called it a transvestite. This was seventy four, and
Speaker 1: Archie saved this character's life on the movie.
Speaker 3: This is all the storyline. In the back of a cab.
Speaker 1: You know, she was in drag or have you by
Speaker 1: an Archie Bunker gave a mathter math rescitation. She came
Speaker 1: to the house to thank them, and she told Edith
Speaker 1: that she was a transvestite, and Edith said, oh, you
Speaker 1: don't even have a foreign accident. Edith and the dean
Speaker 1: that it was so great Jean Stable to rest in peace.
Speaker 1: She was so great at playing that character. But what
Speaker 1: happened was, this was seventy four. Archie, the character, Belly Sale,
Speaker 1: and Edith all became friends. But Edith and Beverly Lasal
Speaker 1: became in the movie and the show very good, very
Speaker 1: close friends like you and I Bobby.
Speaker 3: Just complete apacis. But we met and found out, oh
Speaker 3: my god, we really like each other.
Speaker 1: I thought that that was so poignant to me at
Speaker 1: the age of nine, because I felt weird. But when
Speaker 1: I saw Belly Sell take a wig off, and then
Speaker 1: I saw her be accepted in love by this complete racist.
Speaker 1: Archie Bunker was a complete race And when I say racist,
Speaker 1: not just against color. Archie didn't like nothing that wasn't
Speaker 1: just a white man, white working classman like him. But
Speaker 1: Beverly gave Archie a heart. Edith already had a heart.
Speaker 1: That character was so significant in who my upbringing. So
Speaker 1: rest in peace to Normally, I don't care about all
Speaker 1: the other stories they said what he did.
Speaker 3: I don't care about any of that.
Speaker 1: Only thing I care about is own face value of
Speaker 1: what those shows did for me as a child and
Speaker 1: how they helped mold and shape me to the person
Speaker 1: that I am today. So hats all to the legend
Speaker 1: one hundred and one years old. Absolutely, that's a great life.
Speaker 1: And he knew who he was and had his mind.
Speaker 1: He was like he knew exactly who he were.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you saw how you met him, like
Speaker 2: when he was ninety nine. It was just before he
Speaker 2: turned one hundred, I think, didn't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was right before I think he was like
Speaker 1: ninety eight because this was nineteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, but still at that sharpest attack. He
Speaker 2: had six kids, served in the Air Force. He just
Speaker 2: just absolutely amazing. He I mean, his shows were a political, social, generational, racial, personal.
Speaker 2: He did Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman. That was That was
Speaker 2: why I never really connected with that one. But my god,
Speaker 2: it went down in history people.
Speaker 1: I always thought that, and then Mary Hartman had been
Speaker 1: in my animals. Let me just say that I've always thought.
Speaker 2: And one day at a time I think that was
Speaker 2: another one. But yeah, he was. And we lost We
Speaker 2: lost others. We lost Sandra Dale O'Connor, who blazed the
Speaker 2: trail for women to sit on the Supreme Court. She
Speaker 2: died at ninety three, a beautiful mind who ended up
Speaker 2: dying of complications related to dementia, which I after watching
Speaker 2: my aunt die, It's such a horrible, miserable way to go,
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it. It leaves you with absolutely no dignity. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: we also lost since we've last spoken, Shane McGowan. He
Speaker 2: was in a band Irish band known as the Pogues.
Speaker 2: I didn't know him. I he died in New York
Speaker 2: from some sort of viral infection at sixty five. Who
Speaker 2: else do we have passed? Oh, Francis Sternhagen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hany mouse, Ryan O'Neill.
Speaker 2: Yes, we did, we did. He died of They have
Speaker 2: no they haven't released his his cause of death yet,
Speaker 2: but he was fighting over the past ten or fifteen
Speaker 2: years prostate cancer and leukemia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well they say that's what it was, the
Speaker 1: prostate cancer. I watched him SNBC and they said that
Speaker 1: was the main factor. We also just wasn't Yeah. So
Speaker 1: two days ago we lost Andre Brauer, who was also
Speaker 1: suffering from I think from prostate can prostaly. Cancer is
Speaker 1: something fellas. I have talked about it to you guys.
Speaker 1: Please get your prostay check please. I know, I know
Speaker 1: hate me when I tell you that colonoscopy ain't nothing
Speaker 1: to play with. It's the preparation, because the procedure is
Speaker 1: three minutes. If they're long plus, you be out. But
Speaker 1: the preparation of getting ready for but it will, it could,
Speaker 1: It could change the dynamic of your life, and it
Speaker 1: could give you time to find out whether something is
Speaker 1: going on, if you have cancer's poles or what have you.
Speaker 1: I'm only speaking from experience. I had it in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: I will tell you that the preparation was yuck, and
Speaker 1: not yuck in the painful way, just yuck.
Speaker 3: But the procedure was invasive, but painless.
Speaker 1: Over in a second, and now I know I have
Speaker 1: no cancer polypy I don't have to go back for
Speaker 1: ten years, and that takes the weight of the world
Speaker 1: off your shoulders so lucky as me, and you want
Speaker 1: to make sure that you can keep, especially of a
Speaker 1: certain age that you want to keep a great blood
Speaker 1: flow through your penis or your Your urine is good,
Speaker 1: your orgasm is good, your erections are good. But you
Speaker 1: will not know that unless you go to the doctor.
Speaker 1: You don't want to get blockaged. And yeah, I know
Speaker 1: it's a deep conversation that I don't want nobody's poking
Speaker 1: and pride in my ass. Hear me when I tell
Speaker 1: you that doctor poking and pride is a lot safer
Speaker 1: than after you have hit stage four, because.
Speaker 3: It's a wrap. I'm just I'm let me just be
Speaker 3: cold with it.
Speaker 1: Once you hit stage four, a prostate cancer or any
Speaker 1: kind of cancer, it's pretty much a rap. There is
Speaker 1: one in a billion. But if you played the lottery,
Speaker 1: you know how hard that is to catch that one
Speaker 1: in a billion. Just take care of yourself and go
Speaker 1: do it. It is it's about you. It's not about
Speaker 1: it's about your family. It is about your children, because
Speaker 1: no one wants to see you go through that. That
Speaker 1: prostate cancer or any it will eat you up from
Speaker 1: the inside out, and your loved ones and your family
Speaker 1: and people who care about You have to have to
Speaker 1: witness that. Think about them, don't think about you, think
Speaker 1: about the damage that you do to them. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: that's my PSA plus.
Speaker 2: No, I think that.
Speaker 1: Flips sad Bobby, there's a plus that plus you get
Speaker 1: propo bol Oh my god, I'm thinking about going to
Speaker 1: have me one next week.
Speaker 3: Just give me some purple ball. Okay, come on.
Speaker 2: He was only sixty one and he died super fast.
Speaker 2: You know, they kept saying it was a brief illness.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if he got to stage four
Speaker 2: and just didn't realize that. You know, some people suck up.
Speaker 2: Oh I just feel a little this or a little that,
Speaker 2: and they don't bother to listen to the signs of
Speaker 2: their body. He was raised in Chicago. Did you know
Speaker 2: him at all through school? I mean, he's a number
Speaker 2: of years older than you.
Speaker 3: But no, I didn't know him, but I followed I always.
Speaker 2: I'm like, there are a lot of it people like
Speaker 2: come out of Chicago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a fantastic actor. They mentioned him in
Speaker 1: so many sitcoms that he was in. I mean so
Speaker 1: many shows that he was in. But the show that
Speaker 1: I loved him in. I think when I really first
Speaker 1: paid attention to him was a movie called Get on
Speaker 1: the Bus, which was about the Millionaire March, and he
Speaker 1: was on there.
Speaker 3: He played a gay character.
Speaker 1: Now he played a person who taunted the gay character,
Speaker 1: and he was just a great actor. He also played
Speaker 1: on SVU as a lawyer law and oder Scu who
Speaker 1: was a great lawyer.
Speaker 2: Homicide. I loved him on Homicide.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his acting, his range was ginormous. So may he
Speaker 1: rest in peace and a ken ladies and gentlemen. Tomorrow
Speaker 1: is not promised. It's just not. It is not.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of fame, no amount of anything will keep
Speaker 1: you when your number is called. So try and I'm
Speaker 1: telling you how this for myself today too. Try to
Speaker 1: find your joy and try to find as much happy
Speaker 1: as you can.
Speaker 3: Let's go by where we're going. Where are we going to?
Speaker 3: Lady Biry John? All right?
Speaker 2: So the only, so the only, We have two other ones.
Speaker 2: I just want to mention. Kissinger died, so you know
Speaker 2: that was talk about foreign policy. He was synonymous with
Speaker 2: fallen foreign policy in the seventies, so he that was
Speaker 2: that was sort of a legend. He also died. I
Speaker 2: think he was one hundred or one hundred and one
Speaker 2: in one himself. And then somebody that I love. I
Speaker 2: loved because I loved the song. Gene Knight died, the
Speaker 2: legendary singer who's saying, mister big stuff. She died at eighty.
Speaker 3: So that here's a personal question. Why did you like that?
Speaker 2: I just I like, I know, I know it's hearing,
Speaker 2: but I got it. It sounded cool and she had
Speaker 2: a smooth tone to her, and I just thought she
Speaker 2: was the bee's knees. I thought that was she was
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. So when I was a kid, you know,
Speaker 2: you look up to certain people, and that was Diana
Speaker 2: Ross was another one I loved, but I loved her.
Speaker 2: I thought she was cool. Have you heard or because
Speaker 2: you've got two dogs, have you heard have the mystery
Speaker 2: dog illness that's been going around.
Speaker 3: Yes, I've heard of the.
Speaker 2: Oh I've been nervous. My dog is like desperate, desperate
Speaker 2: to be groomed, and I'm really concerned. They say it's
Speaker 2: like respiratory stuff. It's super catchy, So you don't know,
Speaker 2: but that's it has been all over the news. I
Speaker 2: haven't heard the past couple of days, but coughing sneezing,
Speaker 2: difficulty breathing, go to the vet. Don't be cheap. And
Speaker 2: if you go to the big bed is holding interest
Speaker 2: rates again? Oh go ahead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you can't go, if you can't afford to
Speaker 1: go to the event, I apply for care critic Care
Speaker 1: created is a credit that takes care of you and yours.
Speaker 1: They got credit cards for you and your dogs. You
Speaker 1: can both use. I get Swipe man for a cold
Speaker 1: and swipe he is for a coldon good guy at
Speaker 1: the same time.
Speaker 3: Have you heard about it?
Speaker 2: No, I never had. I love every time we do this.
Speaker 2: I want a little something new from you.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I would say if you if you're someone
Speaker 2: like Slaying who's got two dogs, if you notice it
Speaker 2: in one, please try to keep them separate because they
Speaker 2: say it's catching and just you know, if your dog's
Speaker 2: been sneezing in a coffin or whatever, just keep them
Speaker 2: away from the other dogs until you figure out what's
Speaker 2: going on. Some good news is that the Fed is
Speaker 2: holding interest rates at the current level, which is five
Speaker 2: point twenty five, for the third time this year. The
Speaker 2: Labor Department said that inflation is eased to three point one.
Speaker 2: A lot of it due to dropping gas prices. The
Speaker 2: FED is thinking they're going to keep interest rate steady
Speaker 2: and then over next year hopefully it'll drop. They'll drop
Speaker 2: it in three increments over over the next year, which
Speaker 2: is terrific. You know, they inflation is coming down. I know, people,
Speaker 2: we don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: Oh disclaimer, I'm sorry, Lady Gleman, Andre Byer. Now they
Speaker 1: just posted that is lung cancer. It was not prostate
Speaker 1: cancer cancer. So let me clarify that, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: pull that out. Let me clear for that because I
Speaker 1: don't want you to say, oh flame putting out misinformation. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm going on what I've seen. What I've seen in
Speaker 1: the media. They did talk about prostate cancer, but lung
Speaker 1: cancer is bad. And you know what blows me. I
Speaker 1: don't know how some people kids lung cancer when they
Speaker 1: don't smoke. I don't know if he smoked in that.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I yeah, I don't know. I feel
Speaker 2: like he smoked, but it could have just been for
Speaker 2: the show. I feel like he smoked on Homicide, Life
Speaker 2: on the Street or something like that, But I don't
Speaker 2: know if he actually smoked in his light in his lifetime.
Speaker 2: There was another actress, like a child actress. I can't
Speaker 2: think of her. She had come out this week with
Speaker 2: saying that she has lung cancer. She was lucky she
Speaker 2: had stage one. And she never smoked either, So it's
Speaker 2: probably a secondhand smoke flame like if your parents smoked,
Speaker 2: and they will blow And remember back in the day,
Speaker 2: they blew it everywhere. They didn't blow to the side,
Speaker 2: they didn't leave the house. They smoked right in front
Speaker 2: of you and it was like a cloud. So yeah, no,
Speaker 2: that's so good. We had a little bit of update
Speaker 2: on climate stuff. They had the big COP twenty eight
Speaker 2: summit and they have agreed to start to pull away
Speaker 2: from fossil fuels, so that'll kind of be good. I
Speaker 2: think they have a two year deadline to get in
Speaker 2: what their formal plans are and are for their country,
Speaker 2: how they're going to lower emissions. So we'll see. We'll
Speaker 2: see how that goes. I mean, it's sort of inevitable.
Speaker 2: Can't even say that word ten times fast. But we'll
Speaker 2: see how the Also a few people feel.
Speaker 1: To the Tuskegee Airmen. There was laid to rest nearly
Speaker 1: eighty years after he went missing. Second Lieutenant Fred Brewer Jr.
Speaker 1: Has been missing since ten, nineteen forty four.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: December the sixth Group was finally laid to rest in
Speaker 1: his home state of North Carolina's, surrounded by family he
Speaker 1: never got to meet, but who for years had fought
Speaker 1: to find him and bring him home. The plan he
Speaker 1: was flying road as he attempted a steep climb to
Speaker 1: get above a cloud cover. Following the war, a body
Speaker 1: was recovered by US personnel from a civilian cemetery in Italy,
Speaker 1: but limited tech at the time made it impossible for
Speaker 1: the remains to be identified.
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that to keep his legacy alive, right.
Speaker 2: I do too. And you know what is that saying
Speaker 2: that we hear about with the military, that they never
Speaker 2: leave a soldier behind. I actually liked that the military
Speaker 2: kept on it as well. You know, I think that's
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty great. And I like to give
Speaker 2: families closure, So I think that's terrific.
Speaker 1: To the military called me because guess what, I don't
Speaker 1: meet the age requirement. I got breast. Oh, I ain't
Speaker 1: going I just I'm just going to sign up and
Speaker 1: say here I coming. I'm like, we don't want something
Speaker 1: like see but I did try to go unlike that
Speaker 1: last administration. He had bone spurts, but I did.
Speaker 2: Try to go boobs and all please bones first, there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: Whoo.
Speaker 2: Did you see that Taylor Swift was named Times Person
Speaker 2: of the Year. I don't know what actually makes the qualifications.
Speaker 2: I'll have to go and read it, but I thought
Speaker 2: that was pretty good. I don't know if it's for
Speaker 2: her good works with her people or or what it is,
Speaker 2: or the fact that she's got people out voting, you know,
Speaker 2: young people out voting.
Speaker 3: But a combination.
Speaker 1: I think it's the combination of things, Bobby, because you know,
Speaker 1: I've been reading some of the blogs and people was like, well,
Speaker 1: why wasn't it this person, Why wasn't it that person?
Speaker 1: I think that the the siding factor for me to
Speaker 1: say that if I'm gonna go over female entertainments, because
Speaker 1: I'm like you, I don't know the voting process. I
Speaker 1: think the fact that when Taylor Swift bonused all of
Speaker 1: her drivers that was taking her equipment from state to state,
Speaker 1: from city to city, from town to town, she bonused
Speaker 1: them each one hundred thousand dollars apiece.
Speaker 3: I think that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Because we still We're still in a very much living
Speaker 1: in a bad economy. Money is tight for so many
Speaker 1: different people, and for her to do something like that,
Speaker 1: it showed gratitude, It showed appreciation. It showed that you
Speaker 1: matter and you care, and I see you, and I'm
Speaker 1: telling you a lot of people just want to be
Speaker 1: seen and appreciated, myself included. So thank you, Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: and congratulations. I'm not gonna say that I am a swiftye,
Speaker 1: but I do love shake it off. I've loved shake
Speaker 1: it off every since the Well sing when the little
Speaker 1: peek was shaking it off?
Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, did you see that? That poor Well? I
Speaker 2: guess I don't know why he did it. I mean,
Speaker 2: it seems stupid.
Speaker 3: Rep.
Speaker 2: Jamal Bowman. Remember when they were going to have the
Speaker 2: big vote and he pulled the fire alarm. They actually
Speaker 2: are censuring him, which is like a slap on the hand,
Speaker 2: But the fact that they actually are, they find him,
Speaker 2: he took it, he took the fine. I think they
Speaker 2: put him on some sort of misdemeanor or something and
Speaker 2: it goes away after six months. But not only are
Speaker 2: they doing that, they actually are censuring. So hopefully that's
Speaker 2: the end of it. Please don't pull a fire alarm
Speaker 2: unless it's something important. You don't pull it when you
Speaker 2: don't know the right door to go in.
Speaker 1: People, he pulled the fire alarm for distraction, to hold
Speaker 1: it up. But isn't that what this whole country doing?
Speaker 1: And they pulled the silent fire alarms because of all
Speaker 1: the distractions.
Speaker 2: Well something, but speaking about distractions, and I'm gonna you
Speaker 2: followed this closer than I did, although I did watch
Speaker 2: some of the snippets, but I did not watch the debate.
Speaker 2: What about the rohnd de Santis and Gavim k newso debate?
Speaker 3: I thought I didn't love my government before.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he was hot, wasn't he didn't he?
Speaker 2: What was his big line? You were? You were telling
Speaker 2: us during coffee time?
Speaker 3: His big line? So Ron de Santers was pointing out.
Speaker 1: That uh I stayed of California.
Speaker 3: It says pooh pooh, pooh, pooh poop when.
Speaker 1: I tell you that, Gavin News Governor Gavin News and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to agree with you on
Speaker 1: some things. I'm gonna agree with you on all the lease.
Speaker 1: Both of us will he said, both of us. He
Speaker 1: broke us, broke it down. He said, both of us
Speaker 1: will never see eye on some things and woo woo.
Speaker 1: And his last thing, he says, oh, and the one
Speaker 1: thing that we do have in common is that neither
Speaker 1: one of us will get the Democratic nominator will get
Speaker 1: the nomination for president.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I thought it was priceless. And now,
Speaker 3: mind you, I.
Speaker 1: Might those at home who don't follow the reason he
Speaker 1: said that because he's not running for president, only the
Speaker 1: Santa Seid. So he was letting him know, not only
Speaker 1: will I not get it, and I'm not in the running,
Speaker 1: you are in the running, and don't worry about the pimp.
Speaker 1: But oh my god, I thought it was great.
Speaker 2: That's hysterical.
Speaker 3: Governors Mansion and Panies on the broad said Gavin.
Speaker 2: That that is absolutely hysterical. I love it. I know
Speaker 2: sometimes some of the stuff that's been coming out has
Speaker 2: been has been entertaining, and I thought that was great.
Speaker 2: For some reason. I don't know how I missed it,
Speaker 2: but I just I didn't turn the TV. It was
Speaker 2: like after it by the time that that he realized
Speaker 2: it had gone on. So I had to like just
Speaker 2: look at the clickbait, and I thought it was I
Speaker 2: thought it was terrific. I thought they I mean, DeSantis
Speaker 2: had a few points, so that was good, so we
Speaker 2: didn't look like a total jackass. But I thought that
Speaker 2: Newsom clearly won that debate for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm still unsure of why Newsom and the Santas were debating,
Speaker 1: since Newsom.
Speaker 2: Is not right, I don't. I don't either. I think
Speaker 2: in a way that he was almost holding a placeholder
Speaker 2: for for Biden, because he certainly was, you know, touting
Speaker 2: all those accomplishments. From what I saw of the debate,
Speaker 2: I don't know how that. I think it's because Newsom
Speaker 2: challenged them and so that I didn't think he'd have
Speaker 2: the nerve to, you know, the balls to pick up
Speaker 2: the challenge. But he did. So he did, and he
Speaker 2: did okay, but he clearly did not win. Newsom was
Speaker 2: on it, and I think Newsome is, you know, you're
Speaker 2: gonna put your big girl panties on flame. But I
Speaker 2: think he's probably gonna run in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: If I had to guess, I'll take twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I wish it was this year that he was prepared for,
Speaker 1: because then we wouldn't be having all this foolishness with
Speaker 1: them trying to discribe Biden.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm not Biden. Biden is not.
Speaker 1: First of all, none of the candidates shaking it up
Speaker 1: for me, none of them. We still have to vote.
Speaker 1: It's still my legal obligation, my responsibility as an American
Speaker 1: to make sure that I cast to vote for somebody
Speaker 1: that I see. Right now, all I can see is
Speaker 1: Biden because everybody else is not give me anything that
Speaker 1: I need. Biden is not my perfect candidate either, but
Speaker 1: if he is the closest thing that I could get
Speaker 1: to what I want, then I'm going to vote for him.
Speaker 3: And that is exactly what I'm going to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I me as well. And I you know,
Speaker 2: I got to be honest. I mean, he said it
Speaker 2: here when he was here in Boston. We talked about
Speaker 2: the last time. I don't think he wants to be
Speaker 2: running and do the work. These are endless days, these
Speaker 2: are these are twenty hour days on some days, you know,
Speaker 2: and for anybody, even a young man in his forties,
Speaker 2: to do it, look at look at the age, uh,
Speaker 2: aging that happens with President Obama. He went in looking
Speaker 2: like a kid, and he came out he was snow white.
Speaker 2: You know ages you, it's exhausting.
Speaker 1: It's that is one of the criterias becoming the president.
Speaker 1: That's one of you go in and you the only
Speaker 1: person that did not come out looking aged. Yeah, was
Speaker 1: the jacket was a was agent orange. He just stayed orange.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's your exactly. He came with legs.
Speaker 2: That's because he had unlimited He had unlimited Big Max
Speaker 2: on our dime, So why not. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 2: will say President Biden is a man of service as
Speaker 2: well as his wife. So he is stepping up to
Speaker 2: the challenge because there's nobody that, nobody else that's willing
Speaker 2: to and he he does go. I think I think
Speaker 2: President Obama and President Biden rock Trump's world, so he's
Speaker 2: probably the best one to kind of rattle his cage
Speaker 2: if there is any rattling that can be done. Uh
Speaker 2: and uh sag after after uh. They actually ratified a
Speaker 2: three year contract, so that sounds like and with seventy
Speaker 2: eight percent of the people in in favor of it,
Speaker 2: sounds like that's a done deal. So hopefully that things
Speaker 2: will open up for you and your entertainment pals.
Speaker 3: Over you know, they don't really call me, So we'll
Speaker 3: see how that goes I know.
Speaker 2: But you never know. Twenty twenty four is coming.
Speaker 3: For twenty twenty four is definitely coming.
Speaker 1: And on that note, with twenty twenty four coming, because
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