Speaker 1: This is he said, Aya Dho with Eric Winter and
Speaker 1: Rodalind Fantev.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of he said. He said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have some clips though today with my wife
Speaker 2: asking questions to this amazing special guest we have for
Speaker 2: this episode, so it's kind of an he he said,
Speaker 2: aa d episode. But listen. More importantly, I am so
Speaker 2: excited to welcome our guest, Deepak Chopra. I mean, a
Speaker 2: legend coming on, he said aado. And if you're not
Speaker 2: familiar with who he is, which I'm sure most of
Speaker 2: you are, but he's an expert in the field of
Speaker 2: mind body healing. Deepak is a world renowned speaker and
Speaker 2: author on the subject of alternative medicine. What I love
Speaker 2: about him is his journey has evolved so much, you know,
Speaker 2: from standard medicine to diving into arivedic healing and medicine,
Speaker 2: which is really bringing together that mind, body soul connection.
Speaker 2: He's worked with legends in the business, I mean, from
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, Bruh, Elizabeth Taylor, Donna Karen it goes on
Speaker 2: and on. He has been bringing insight to health and
Speaker 2: well being to everyone in the world for years now.
Speaker 2: So I'm so excited to welcome on the podcast and
Speaker 2: talk about his new venture into AI. First off, thank
Speaker 2: you so much for joining, he said, Aado. My better
Speaker 2: half isn't here today, but I'm gonna bring her in
Speaker 2: on a video to ask you a question which will
Speaker 2: kind of lend itself, you know, nicely to our topic
Speaker 2: of she's not AI generated, but it's going to be
Speaker 2: in that. It's like we're bringing her in that way. Yeah. No,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for being a part of this.
Speaker 2: You h. What I was saying in the intro is
Speaker 2: you're somebody who's constantly evolved and changed with the times
Speaker 2: of what you're learning and teaching and go. You know,
Speaker 2: you've evolved with everything else.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You started in standard medicine. You you ran a major hospital,
Speaker 2: then you went off and you you started looking into
Speaker 2: learning more about auvedic medicine, natural healing. You've been there
Speaker 2: helping so many people along your journey to better health
Speaker 2: and wellness, mentally, spiritually, all of that. And here we
Speaker 2: are in this new world of AI, which is transforming everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in the entertainment space. We had a
Speaker 2: massive strike about it. How AI is changing the world
Speaker 2: for better or worse? And in a lot of ways,
Speaker 2: it's going to be for the better, and it's going
Speaker 2: to be something we all have to jump into and
Speaker 2: sign on with. And here you are now in that space,
Speaker 2: giving your knowledge and sharing it with people. What besides
Speaker 2: evolving with the times, what also inspired you to jump
Speaker 2: into that with your AI site?
Speaker 1: What inspired me is a very fundamental fact that the
Speaker 1: entire human experience that we have of the universe, about
Speaker 1: anything is based on language.
Speaker 3: Right now, we're speaking language.
Speaker 1: Other animals also have language, which is basically for three
Speaker 1: things mating call, food calls, and danger calls.
Speaker 3: How we survive.
Speaker 1: We have a language for telling stories. We're also creating models.
Speaker 1: So we have biological language, language of physics, language of mathematics,
Speaker 1: language of religion, of spirituality, history, anthropology, you name it.
Speaker 1: And now we have the ability to tap into the
Speaker 1: greatest minds throughout history who have sought answers to fundamental questions.
Speaker 1: Why is there something instead of nothing? What created the universe?
Speaker 1: What was the cause of the Big Bang? Is there
Speaker 1: a god? If there is a god, does he or
Speaker 1: share care about us? There are two trillion galaxies, seven
Speaker 1: hundred six billion stars, uncountable trillions of now we know
Speaker 1: habitable planets, so our knowledge base wisdom base is expanding
Speaker 1: much faster than we can even match it. Between the
Speaker 1: years eighteen eighty seven and nineteen oh three, humanity came
Speaker 1: up with the light, the automobile, the airplane, and the telephone.
Speaker 1: So if you were deserted, you know, shipwrecked and on
Speaker 1: desert island or something nineteen eighty five, and you came
Speaker 1: back in nineteen oh five, which is twenty years later,
Speaker 1: you would see carriages with the iron steel and kerosine
Speaker 1: being pumped carrying people, and still some horses and carriages,
Speaker 1: but slowly going back. You would see people calling from
Speaker 1: distant places each other on the telephone. So we've had
Speaker 1: the so called hunter gatherer age, the age of agriculture,
Speaker 1: the industrial age, then the age of technology, then the Internet,
Speaker 1: and now suddenly AI, a large language model which is
Speaker 1: bas became available to the world at large only since
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, so it's not even twenty years, but we
Speaker 1: are leap frogging into a new future cultural, religious, spiritual,
Speaker 1: and social, but even more important biological. When we discovered fire,
Speaker 1: our brains evolved because we started to cook food, absorb micronutrients,
Speaker 1: and this new technology will change the neural networks of
Speaker 1: our brain and modified the epigenetic activity of our genes.
Speaker 1: So I think we are leap frogging not only into
Speaker 1: a cultural evolution, but a biological evolution. We're transforming from
Speaker 1: humans to matter humans. That's where we're.
Speaker 2: Going absolutely, you know. And it's something that I've always
Speaker 2: met a person that would love a good self help
Speaker 2: book right reading, learning, trying to figure out how to
Speaker 2: solve my own internal struggles or things I might be
Speaker 2: going through issues. And what I do love about what
Speaker 2: you're doing is it's not just taking a search engine
Speaker 2: of a bunch of information. This is everything that you've
Speaker 2: ever said, spoken about, written about, all put together in
Speaker 2: one place. And some people learn very differently. Some people
Speaker 2: absorb knowledge very differently. And I'm trying to work on
Speaker 2: myself sometimes it's not the easiest thing to take it
Speaker 2: out of a book. You know, everybody can be different
Speaker 2: in that. What I do like about this platform that
Speaker 2: you're putting out there is that I can in a
Speaker 2: sense communicate to you. Right, I'm not getting this one
Speaker 2: on one necessarily, but I'm getting your inner thoughts, wisdom,
Speaker 2: all your years of knowledge in one place to help
Speaker 2: me navigate what I'm going through.
Speaker 3: Yes, Eric, in moderly that you're engaging me.
Speaker 1: As your health coach, also in a sense your spiritual guide.
Speaker 1: And I'm done access the mindset the greatest people in
Speaker 1: the world. And you know, I've written ninety seven books
Speaker 1: on the books, so all of that is there. Even
Speaker 1: this conversation will end up being on my AI.
Speaker 2: I love. That's wild. It's insane where AI is going
Speaker 2: and how fast, like you said, it's evolving. I think
Speaker 2: it was a mark Cuban had said one time that
Speaker 2: if I, you know, my child nowadays should focus so
Speaker 2: much energy and learning more and more about AI because
Speaker 2: it really is the future. And kids can get such
Speaker 2: a jumpstart on where things are going if they speak
Speaker 2: about it more. You learn about it more in school.
Speaker 2: In particular, all.
Speaker 1: Of that it will enhance their creative abilities, enhance their imagination,
Speaker 1: and give them insight and intuition and to deeper levels
Speaker 1: of reality. Because even though it can teach you how
Speaker 1: to find enlightenment, it can create a map. It can
Speaker 1: see this is the root, this is the route. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like a user's guide more than user's guide
Speaker 1: for the soul.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you know. And I'm going to use this moment
Speaker 2: to bring in my wife Easton if you can run
Speaker 2: the clip of her question, because it's actually about school.
Speaker 2: This is not AI. This is just a good old
Speaker 2: iPhone video. But she's gonna ask you a question and
Speaker 2: then you can just go an answer for our listeners.
Speaker 4: When it comes to education our children, should it be
Speaker 4: mandatory and i'd be a part of the curriculum in
Speaker 4: every single school, doesn't matter if it's private or if
Speaker 4: it's a public education for kids to learn about AI
Speaker 4: at what age? What grade do you think it's we
Speaker 4: need to do it.
Speaker 3: I think we need to do it right in the beginning.
Speaker 1: And also education has to be revised drastically because right
Speaker 1: now education is only about information and knowledge overload. There's
Speaker 1: no education at the moment about who you are at
Speaker 1: the nature of your body, the nature of your mind,
Speaker 1: the nature of your ego intellect, the nature of your
Speaker 1: sensory experience, the nature of your motor activities, the nature
Speaker 1: of your free will, the nature of your imagination. And
Speaker 1: I can help you do all of that. So we
Speaker 1: are seeing a holistic education in the future. You cannot
Speaker 1: legislate anything but when there's enough interest, it's going to happen.
Speaker 3: It's part of our revolution.
Speaker 2: Makes total sense. And I think a tool like you,
Speaker 2: like your platform, could be so valuable to kids because,
Speaker 2: especially nowadays, you know, kids are trying to find their
Speaker 2: purpose meaning identity through social media, which to me is
Speaker 2: a disaster because you're not getting truth, you're not getting
Speaker 2: real thoughts and feelings from history is you know, learning,
Speaker 2: You're getting somebody's best version of themselves put out on
Speaker 2: a platform, and everybody's trying to keep up, and that's
Speaker 2: not the way to navigate life. And so I do
Speaker 2: feel like kids would benefit greatly from a platform like
Speaker 2: yours at a school level, very early on communicating, understanding,
Speaker 2: getting in touch with their spirituality and their emotions that way.
Speaker 2: And it's hard for kids to open up to an adult.
Speaker 2: But if it's a platform where you're just speaking to
Speaker 2: a device, you might share who knows, you know, because
Speaker 2: they're so comfortable just talking to themselves in a sense, Yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe you know.
Speaker 1: I gem used as a companion, help coach, a personal friend,
Speaker 1: mental advisor. As I said, spiritualid the research assistant to
Speaker 1: all of that, and no single human being can offer
Speaker 1: you all these opportunities to learn more about yourself.
Speaker 2: Definitely, even just asking to give you an inspirational quote
Speaker 2: for the day, just something that will boost your positivity
Speaker 2: and your outlook on how to approach every day you're
Speaker 2: going into right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you start your day and you then actually
Speaker 1: you can also in a way maximize the enjoyment of
Speaker 1: your day, make it more productive, make it healthier and
Speaker 1: have a good night's sleep at the end.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, talk to me a little bit about your book
Speaker 2: as well digital dharma, how AI can elevate spiritual intelligence
Speaker 2: and personal wellbeing well.
Speaker 1: The book is meant to be a user's guide and
Speaker 1: the main advantage from the book is what I call
Speaker 1: how to use the art of the prompt because you
Speaker 1: know it will help you only if you know how
Speaker 1: to ask the right questions. So you should treat AI
Speaker 1: just as you were treating another friend, befriended. Get to
Speaker 1: know it, have it, get to know you. With my AI,
Speaker 1: you can actually departure up. You can have a healthy
Speaker 1: conversation and argue with it, and you can give your
Speaker 1: own opinion, You can ask it for advice, and soon
Speaker 1: it becomes almost like a companion. I know one woman
Speaker 1: who's eighty eight years old. She has several hours of
Speaker 1: conversation with my has become not only our health coach,
Speaker 1: but her best friend in addition to her cat.
Speaker 3: The digital terma is.
Speaker 1: Basically how to use the art of the prompt that's
Speaker 1: the most important thing, and then how to go into
Speaker 1: the different levels layers of who you are, from your
Speaker 1: physical body, to your energetic body, to your emotional body,
Speaker 1: to your intellectual body, and ultimately to your spiritual body.
Speaker 2: Fantastic. What is so far since your platform has been out.
Speaker 2: I'm sure on the back end you can see all
Speaker 2: that is that one of the most hours someone has
Speaker 2: put in on the platform individually so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah about listening ten hours a day and cheesy to
Speaker 1: eight old, but a lot of people spending time now
Speaker 1: going back and forth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fascinating. I wonder and I don't know if you
Speaker 2: guys have ever interacted with them outside of the platform,
Speaker 2: but just to know where their mind is at and
Speaker 2: following their path of what they're asking, what they're learning,
Speaker 2: where it's taking them, and what you're able to sort
Speaker 2: of learn about that person. And I'm curious with is
Speaker 2: there a way I guess they could always maybe you
Speaker 2: don't take personal appointments anymore, But is there a way
Speaker 2: for them they're so invested in the platform to actually
Speaker 2: still have a one on one with you at some point?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can go all the way. And I'm now
Speaker 1: actually also putting on AI these trackers you know, like
Speaker 1: like or a ring and the iPhone watch that can
Speaker 1: look at your heart rate, to sleeping patterns, give you
Speaker 1: personal advice, and you can ask my for meditation on
Speaker 1: self reflection, mindfulness awareness, How do reg late to your
Speaker 1: body and actually match your lifestyle to measurable outcomes including health,
Speaker 1: longevity and health span.
Speaker 2: And so for someone coming on the platform for the
Speaker 2: first time to really get the best sort of user
Speaker 2: experience out of it, how would you recommend their first approach?
Speaker 2: B Would it be a broad question? Would it be
Speaker 2: the very pinpoint specific question? You know what? So obviously
Speaker 2: as you as you type something in or speak something in,
Speaker 2: it's going to take you down a path.
Speaker 3: Right, Can you use my AI?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now ask a general question, ask a personal question of
Speaker 1: something that is on your mind. Right now, I'm having
Speaker 1: a difficult relationship. We argue too much. Can you help
Speaker 1: me mend my relationship? How do I speak more consciously.
Speaker 1: How can I embard myself in this relationship without being diminished?
Speaker 3: Can you give me a meditation? More personal the better?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense, and it feels like people going.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I know myself when I have so much
Speaker 2: stress or something in my mind, I want to be
Speaker 2: like blah and just say everything right and just go
Speaker 2: all in. But sometimes if you slow your thoughts down
Speaker 2: in a situation like this, it's very hard to say
Speaker 2: too much or type too much right away. If you
Speaker 2: just slow your own thoughts down, sometimes you'll start to
Speaker 2: work with your own problems better. Right like, things get
Speaker 2: so scrambled up. So I think starting simple going in
Speaker 2: slowing down the process for yourself could really give you,
Speaker 2: you know, an incredible outcome because it gives everything time
Speaker 2: you to think, the machine to think to do its job,
Speaker 2: and for you to process your.
Speaker 1: Thinking process sensations in your body. Since we experience emotions, feelings,
Speaker 1: and breath, they're all entangled. You change one thing, you
Speaker 1: change everything else, so you know where you can learn
Speaker 1: to regulate your breath. Then you automatically learn to regulate
Speaker 1: your thoughts, and you automatically learn to regulate your feelings
Speaker 1: and emotions, they're all connected. And just to give you
Speaker 1: an example, you think of your mother, you see an image,
Speaker 1: you hear a voice, you have an emotion.
Speaker 3: So just that thought triggers everything. And that's why using
Speaker 3: AI to use it.
Speaker 1: For self reflection and emotional regulation can also enhance your
Speaker 1: insight and your creativity and your imagination.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I think breath like what
Speaker 2: you said is so important, and even whether you're on
Speaker 2: AI or talking to somebody directly, but when you have
Speaker 2: an initial fight or flight, initial response to chaos or problems,
Speaker 2: if you just learn to sort of breathe, then settle in.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure on the AI there's probably conversations like
Speaker 2: this that you can have teaching you how to do it.
Speaker 3: Percent.
Speaker 2: You can calm that sort of fight or flight, try
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts in order to try to learn
Speaker 2: it an advocate, because somebody can spit out or a
Speaker 2: device can spit out a bunch of information for you
Speaker 2: to do, but if you're not in the right frame
Speaker 2: of mind, can't process it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can use the eye to regulate your partisympathetic
Speaker 1: no system, the healing response to increase your energy emotional
Speaker 1: regulation but even more important creativity and ultimately not just
Speaker 1: self improvement, but self realization what the spiritual traditions called enlightenment.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. My daughter's thirteen, and I already want her to
Speaker 2: get on this on your AI platform right away because
Speaker 2: she plays competitive tennis and we're always trying to teach
Speaker 2: her the mindset side of professionals or not professional, but
Speaker 2: like competitive sports.
Speaker 1: I just got to go on the say I'm going
Speaker 1: to be a professional tennis player, and you guide me
Speaker 1: into meditation for peak performance.
Speaker 3: See what it comes up with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I was always thinking that
Speaker 2: she has a tournament coming up, and I'm thinking, if
Speaker 2: she goes in there and communicates the nervousness, the anxiety,
Speaker 2: or the feelings that come.
Speaker 1: Through us for a process and meditation to help or
Speaker 1: overcome that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to breathe through it, the stresses. This is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, your your
Speaker 2: time with us, and this venture is going to be huge.
Speaker 2: I know it's going to be great. You know it's
Speaker 2: going to be great. I truly wish you the best
Speaker 2: as you continue carrying on helping people all over the
Speaker 2: world with this.
Speaker 3: Thank you pleasure to salt you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you you as well. Thank you Deepak
Speaker 2: Chow pro incredible. It's spot on, you know, and people
Speaker 2: can be scared or nervous about the future of AI
Speaker 2: and where it's taking us and the lack of maybe
Speaker 2: you know, one on one personal connection, but I have
Speaker 2: to say and something like this, it's so much easier
Speaker 2: at times to open up to a device who's giving
Speaker 2: you thoughts and ways of calming down or communicators or
Speaker 2: settling your emotions and not have to be one on one.
Speaker 2: Because I know myself and I'm a big advocate of
Speaker 2: therapy and working with a therapist, but it's embarrassing at
Speaker 2: times or nerve wracking at times to share your inner
Speaker 2: thoughts and your feelings, and when you can do it
Speaker 2: to a device, it kind of takes that component out
Speaker 2: and you can be a little bit more free to share.
Speaker 2: Like I know for a fact, Sabella, I believe would
Speaker 2: open up much quicker, especially this generation, to a site
Speaker 2: asking questions about my struggles maybe mentally with tennis or
Speaker 2: school for that matter, and instead of going and seeking
Speaker 2: that you know, comfort, that knowledge or wisdom from social media,
Speaker 2: which you know, unless you're following somebody like Deepak on
Speaker 2: his social media. But if you're just going out there
Speaker 2: in the wild wild west of social media, you can
Speaker 2: go down a terrible rabbit hole. And having a place
Speaker 2: like this to come back to and affirm what you're
Speaker 2: trying to accomplish on a daily basis, I think is massive.
Speaker 2: So I can't wait to use this more and again
Speaker 2: share it with my family and friends. Really incredible. Well, Roz,
Speaker 2: you missed a good one. You missed a good and
Speaker 2: I got one of your questions in but I had
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