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Speaker 1: I think that George, that you're actually the me of

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Speaker 1: your duo. Huh wow, that is so interesting. What do

422
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Speaker 1: you think? What do you think? No, I actually think

423
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: that makes sense in a weird waking I think, yeah, yeah,

424
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: I mean Eric, I would never call you like the

425
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: silly one, but you know, if there is a silly

426
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: one in your duo, you're the silly one. I mean,

427
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: I don't take things seriously. I don't take my you know, success,

428
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: my career. You know, I don't need to be getting

429
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 1: you know, I don't need to have twenty k followers

430
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: like ten ks fine for right now? You know, I

431
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: don't need. I don't need to compete, you know, I'm

432
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: just getting coffee walking my non existent dog. You know.

433
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: And you both live in like, you know, really classic

434
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: Bushwick also, you know, and there's a slower piz and

435
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: I think George and I are just much more like

436
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: type A the MICUs out and we're sort of screaming

437
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: at our partners to get everything, not be dead in Bushwick. Yeah,

438
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: and I do. I'm moving to Crown Heights though, Stephen,

439
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: You're in Ridgewood right in vibes, Um, I am in Ridgewood. Yeah,

440
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: that's basically, but it's a world of different. Is the

441
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Speaker 1: lesbian Bushwick is Crown Heights lesbian? Now it's honey, it's

442
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: been okay, okay, I mean that's not a slurf out

443
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: of nowhere. I found myself living in Park Slope for

444
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: two years, which is not where imagine my life going.

445
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: And I'm so out of tune with even being around

446
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: anyone my own age or anyone that might be gay,

447
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: and just to be in somewhere where there are people

448
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: that I can relate to as a blessing, even if

449
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: they are lesbians. Right, A lesbian will do. Yeah, And

450
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, you got more space out there, you can

451
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: really stretch out. I'm excited for more space. Yes, you're

452
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: now you're not moving in with your boyfriend? Is just

453
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: I'm not moving in with Matthew. No. Um, But I

454
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: have a point. What's your point? I have a freaking point,

455
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: And like I don't want to talk more about like

456
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: Brooklyn neighborhoods, like well, like Brooklyn neighbors is like the

457
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: most boring anywhere about it. That's literally at my point,

458
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: that's just like the intro to my point, which is

459
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: talking more about it. My point is also if we're

460
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Speaker 1: talking about us as pairs and similarities between George and

461
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: to Stephen and me and Eric, it's I feel like

462
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: George and Steven are more likely to be intimidating to

463
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: people that don't know them. Tell me if I'm wrong.

464
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Do you think I definitely see that with Steven? Do

465
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: you think I'm intimidating? I don't think. I think you

466
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: could be. I think if I'm in a bad movie, yeah,

467
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: I can be intimidating, I guess, But then I can

468
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: also be like the opposite of that, where I want

469
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: to be so accommodating that I come off as a

470
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: giant door mat. I think that I think the difference

471
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: between you two is more stark because you know, I mean, Sam,

472
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: you just radiate friendliness and and you have with the

473
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: shigy hair, and then you know George, especially right now

474
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: with this buzz cut. I mean, you know it's it's

475
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: it's and you're piercing dark guys or are they light?

476
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: Actually they're light, they're blow brain. I've never been able

477
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: to tell anyone's eye caller An, it doesn't actually can

478
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: put piercing before any kind you have a specific color

479
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: blindness just for eyes. But yeah, I think just like

480
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: in a more classic way, someone might be like, oh,

481
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more um scared, But I just think

482
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: Eric is more um. I just want to say, I'm

483
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm a little offended that Sam, you don't find me intimidating, Yeah,

484
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: I I don't. I think it's like you're always like

485
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: you're like putting yourself out there, you know, like you're

486
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: like being like kind of warm and like weird way.

487
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: It's like I'm a Sweetheart's like, do you think that

488
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: it takes a while to understand that Eric's a sweetheart.

489
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: I think our first two times going to our quarterly

490
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: date at Julius. I was like, is he mocking me? Thank?

491
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: You know, That's what I was gonna say. I think

492
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: people leave an interact the form of the first and direction.

493
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: Eric like, I think that guy like hates me was

494
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: like totally making fun of me, and like it's like

495
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: literally that it was making fun of me like I was.

496
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: I remember one time we were there and I went

497
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: to order and I was like, what do you want?

498
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: And he and Eric was just kind of like, I'll

499
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: have a martini. You know what I'm making. You know,

500
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I love that we're talking about me, obviously, you know,

501
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: it's more I'm making fun of this situation, like, oh

502
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: my god, what are we getting? Like Martini's Obviously I'm

503
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: not making it's myself more than like anyone else around me.

504
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Okay, let me know if I just

505
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: saw this truly. Right before we started recording, Guy Brandam

506
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: said something along the lines of camp is pretending to

507
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: do something while you're actually doing it, And I feel

508
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: like that's you ordering a martini. Yeah. I mean I

509
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: think that we all can be campy or martini. I

510
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: think that Eric, it's like, is Eric is actually quite authentic?

511
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: And so his campiness is like authentically felt, and so

512
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't come up as obviously camp where when I

513
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: were or tiny, I think I do like a big

514
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: song and dance, and I'm super schlocky and fake. I'm

515
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: a Gemini. I am very tri So I would just

516
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: be like, hey, barking, can I get one of those

517
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: martinis extra dry, sweetheart? And I'll be all one thing.

518
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: I love to say that I'm embarrassed at it, but

519
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: like I'll always say, um, it's like, oh, would you

520
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: like a dry? And I go, oh, oh no, do

521
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: you like a dirty? And I say pornographic sweetheart. So

522
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: it's just like and then everyone knows that you're doing

523
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: a bit, and so I'm very like, you know, always

524
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: trying to make it really clear that I'm like so

525
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: then it's clear that you're joking that I'm joking. On

526
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: the other hand, if you're always doing a bit, then

527
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: you and then you're even less approachable because then it's like, well,

528
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: how can I get anywhere near you? Yeah? No, I

529
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: think that could explain a lot of my relationships. How

530
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: could I get anywhere near you? Is an interesting way

531
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: to vote that. Yeah. So basically for the listeners at home.

532
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: This is how you can tell the difference with it

533
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: between I also think I also think Stephen and I

534
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: comparatively are just meaner online. Well yeah, but that's a choice.

535
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to offend anyone. Eric is just a

536
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: terrified of offending someone. I'm like terributy get canceled and

537
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: like it's like still voting for Hillary and it's just

538
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: like that sort of Eric literally voted for Hillary in

539
00:30:53,040 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: the Today. Oh my god, that's really cool. He's actually

540
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: there at the office now printing out flyers, like a

541
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: homemade flyers that stay still with her. Wait, should we

542
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: do our first segment? I actually think we should do

543
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: our first second? Yeah, so, umti, did you guys prepare

544
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: for the first segments? Prepare or okay? So you each

545
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: have twenty minutes and we can just start now, opening arguments,

546
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: start now, opening arguments, starting now. Okay, in our first

547
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: segment called straight Shooters. Oh my god, the sun is

548
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: right in my eyes. You close your blind I mean, okay,

549
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: are you poor thing? You have gorgeous light? Yea, I

550
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: have hold on. Okay, um there we go. Okay, it's

551
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 1: called straight Shooters, and uh we it is the segment

552
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: in which we test your knowledge of straight culture by

553
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: asking you a series of rapid fire questions where we

554
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: give you two or more options and you have to

555
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: just pick one and you're not allowed to ask anything else.

556
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: At how the game works? Okay, Okay, ready, I'm ready,

557
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: I've got it, and and both of you can answer

558
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: at any time. Dirtbag left or old Town Road? Old

559
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: Town Road? Okay, you're a closet team. Do you join

560
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: the cross country team, join the swim team, or join

561
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: the wrestling team? Across country wrestling Hot Travis Scott Burger

562
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: at McDonald's or the Charlie Demilio coldbrew at Dunkin Donuts,

563
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: Colber riding a jet ski with Wayne Gretzky or riding

564
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: a jeep with Meryl Streep. I mean, obviously you don't

565
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: have to agree picturing her getting really jostled in that jeep.

566
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like the sound of that.

567
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: Am I driving? I would have to drive? Okay. Reese

568
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: Witherspoon as an actress, Reese Witherspoon as a producer, or

569
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon is a relatable queen on social media? Is

570
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: draper James here? I guess that's the social media one.

571
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: Oh we can do. And Reese Witherspoon as as a

572
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Speaker 1: she eo of Draper James. I choose she eo re ceo. Okay,

573
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: why is Draper James her? It's her line. It's her

574
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: line of like Gingham Dresses for being, which we've actually

575
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: talked about on this podcast. Before she sells, Oven mits

576
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: that say, y'all, okay, I did just start watching that

577
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: thing you were telling me to watch the Get and

578
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: Reese is on the first episode that looks so bad.

579
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: It's psychotic. It's it's essential viewing. I mean, I'm obsessed

580
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: with that. It's like forty five minutes of someone organizing

581
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: Rachel's O closet. Well, but it's like but then they

582
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: organize it, and then it doesn't even look good. It's

583
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: just like does container store? It barely looks that different.

584
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: They go to the container store and they got a

585
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: ton of product, as they always say, and there's always

586
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: this like this completely imaginary deadline and like there's just

587
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: totally made up stakes and they're just like it's down

588
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: to the wire, just like we needed to divide and conquered.

589
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: Give me product, give me products, and they're just bins

590
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: and putting labels on them, and it's like it's also

591
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: like it's only made for extremely wealthy people because by

592
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: necessity you have to be well. So each episode they

593
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: do a regular person and this lab Oh my god,

594
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: it's like Tom shoes, but for organizing, yes, because Tom's

595
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: like given the pair to an unchewed person. Um. So

596
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: then they organized the like regular folk com and it's

597
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's like a little more like of a

598
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: meaningful difference, but it's still just putting things in bins. Right,

599
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: So your answer, my answer was food in the Home meta. Okay,

600
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: So as a as a reality TV personality, yeah, we're gravitated.

601
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: You're so okay, Um, thinking you're smart because you're pointing

602
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: out problematic things from eighties movies, or thinking you're smart

603
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: because you're politically smarter than a mother of three in

604
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 1: the Midwest. But mother, well, I think that I don't

605
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm supposed to say. I think the the

606
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: eighties is straighter, okay, Um, okay. The Drew Barrymore Show,

607
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: the Queen Latifa Show, the Megan Moali Show, the Ricky

608
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: Lake Show, the Bonnie Hunt Show, the Bethany Frankel Show

609
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: or The fran Gesture Show. These are all talk shows

610
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: that had one season. Um, well, Ricky Lake didn't have

611
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: one season. She had too. Oh you mean like post

612
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: Ricky she had another show? I think so wait, hold on.

613
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: Ricky Lake was like a famous show in the Knights.

614
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: It was on for many years. It was like a

615
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: connect George if you were spreading misinformation on our podcast,

616
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: like some sort of reboot that was like short lived.

617
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: I think she did no in you know, not Ricky Lake.

618
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: But one time my cousin was at a stoplight and

619
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: Connie Wilson was in the car next to her. Wait,

620
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: it was called Ricky Colin. Then you Ricky Lake Show

621
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Speaker 1: is a reboot Ricky Collin. So I'm gonna go with

622
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: Ricky Colin. Okay, at it checked, ladies, if you're over

623
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Speaker 1: fifty every year, Okay, a towel, a moist towelette or

624
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: a wet taliana a moist towel at Yeah, that's okay.

625
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: Barack Obama signing an overall deal with Netflix or Hillary

626
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Clinton launching a podcast called You and Me both, Umama, Okay,

627
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: men are canonically straighter than women. I think it's what

628
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: we're saying here. I had one more but I couldn't

629
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: crack it, and it was egg house lata or egging

630
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: a house later. No, no, George came to a house

631
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: and then later you decide to egg it. So I

632
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: George and I saw each other last weekend and he

633
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: came in in a gorgeous shirt. It was a long

634
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: sleeved kind of T shirt and he goes, it's a

635
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: cow slata and then my boyfriend was like, it costs

636
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: a lot of Like it took a long time for

637
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: it to like still be like what eck house. It's

638
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: like it's a brand. It costs a lot of that's

639
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: pretty good. That's some good slata. Or it costs a

640
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: latta is better than egging a house later, Yeah, cost

641
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: lata is really good. And also it's kind of its alien,

642
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: So that's definitely straight vibes. This is my daughter egg

643
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: house lata. I mean, that's like the kind of that's

644
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: the classic, like a whole foods you mean, a whole paycheck,

645
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's funny. That was really funny.

646
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Down the other I was like visiting my parents the

647
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: other one, and my mom said, like said, you know,

648
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: tar j but said it in a way where truly

649
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: it was like she had thought of it for the

650
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: first time ever. And yeah, I mean that's kind of clever.

651
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: I think that speaks to the homosexualization of the world

652
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: that just like even moms are kind of like with language. Yeah.

653
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: But also one of our ones, previous ones, was speaking

654
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: of moms being playful with language. Is but first coffee

655
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: or rose all day? I mean those are synonyms, and

656
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: I agree really interesting because to me, it's like, but

657
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: first coffee, like you know, it's like you're type A whatever.

658
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: Rose all day it's like you're drunk. I got both

659
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: of the same thing. Those are just things on a

660
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: T shirt. That's just being compulsive in different ways. Yeah,

661
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: different side of the same coin. Okay, So normally we

662
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: give like a score M George what they get. I

663
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: think they should rate each other. I think we should

664
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: get individual valuations from you. I am here to be

665
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: told that I am better than someone. Um, oh, you

666
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: exactly did better? Thank you. Why did you think you

667
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: did better? I can't remember, but I just I felt

668
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: like I was sort of in my own about it.

669
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: And you know, I have to say I think Eric

670
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: and I both have an understanding of maybe straight suburbia

671
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: in this way a lot of them. I mean there's

672
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: a lot of sort of regionalism in the questions as well,

673
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: which is an interesting through line. Here's what I will say. Well,

674
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: I have two things to say. First of all, Eric

675
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: definitely seemed more confused. I just feel like I didn't

676
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: listen to what like the terms of the well, right,

677
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: we never gave you terms, and that's kind of something

678
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: we like to do, to have to play with the expectations.

679
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: But no, but you have to make your own rules.

680
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: And I think this comes back to the whole diconomy

681
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: between the two of us thing. It's just like you

682
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: were waiting to be told what the precepts were, and I,

683
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: you know, I was basically like, you give me two things,

684
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you what I think about them.

685
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: And you know, I love to create opinions about things

686
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: that I have no experience. And oh, I mean it's

687
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: a great tradition. I mean, I don't know if you

688
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: were like that kind of confident. We were all just

689
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: I think bulldoz through like Barack Obama at the two

690
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: thousand four d n C in Boston. I mean I

691
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: brought the house. I don't know what happened at the

692
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: d n C in Boston. Well in two thousand four,

693
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: that was like Obama's like, you know, canonical speech that

694
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: you're saying you were like his riot um to prominence. Yeah,

695
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: I think you were like that. Thank you. I do

696
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: think I do understand Eric what you're saying, like you

697
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: need to know the rules in order to break them.

698
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: It's like it's like you need to know what you're

699
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: satirizing in order to make a to make commentary about it.

700
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: Now you don't feel like but then again you don't answer. Well,

701
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you can do whatever you want, you know. Ultimately,

702
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: I think you're both on my mask on. Okay, Eric's

703
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: putting his mask on, mask up and white top. Well,

704
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: I think you both tied, and I think you both

705
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: got disqualified. Yeah, you both started. You answered like a

706
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: little too early, Willem. You know, justice for me, right.

707
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: We don't want to be on All Stars. We don't care.

708
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: Do you think who of all of us has the

709
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: gayest and least gay voice? My first, my gut reaction

710
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: is to say that Sam has the least gay voice.

711
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: I would say I would agree I agree. I think

712
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: I have the gayest voice. But I think it's because,

713
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: like I feel like everyone hates the sound of their

714
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: own voice a little bit and think, well, your voice

715
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: sounds gay now because you like you don't have a

716
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: microphone right when you are speaking into the microphone immediately

717
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: make it makes it sound even thinner, you know what

718
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean, even less supported by the diaphragm, because gays

719
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: love to talk like in the front of their mouth

720
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: or whatever, and we don't. We don't, you know, we

721
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: don't support it with the rust um like the French do.

722
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: But I think, yeah, that kind of tracks. I mean,

723
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm my voice. I will say this,

724
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: my voice is about to get straighter because I'm getting

725
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: needsle surgery in a few weeks. Why we have chronic

726
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: Chinese conditions. Um, And they are not going to change

727
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: the outside, Okay, I want them a little. It's actually

728
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: a gut renovation. There's going to be a couch. They're

729
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: putting in a new back splash. But wait, are you

730
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: do you want me to change the outside? Sam, do

731
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: you have a problem with the way might No? No,

732
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: I just feel like you know when in Rome, like

733
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: if they're going in there, they might as well get

734
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: a few beautiful. That's not what I would if I

735
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: could get to anything, I would make them make my

736
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: ears stick out more. I mean, and I understand that

737
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: I respect that so much. I think that's so hard

738
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: what I would do in my face? I mean, I

739
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: would change so many things about my body. No, not

740
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: to brag, but I don't know if I would change

741
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: anything about my face. Let's see, let me take a sure,

742
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: let's take a look at that, like the old mug.

743
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I would, well, I guess I would.

744
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: I would be okay with having like more defined, like

745
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: a more defined I want to I want a Kibella

746
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: injection right here to just kill some of this fat

747
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: and give me a little bit more about I do

748
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: have fat under my chin? Yeah? Um, which is do

749
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: you want me to send blueprints or anything? Done? I

750
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: put on the zoom touch up face filter just now

751
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: you see him a little uncanny valley. But I just

752
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: felt like the overhead lighting was oh I read that

753
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: you look like a woman, and what he's saying I

754
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: was it was such a page turner. I was completely obsessed. Okay.

755
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: I just feel like, if you finish a book fast,

756
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: it means it was good, right, Yeah, And I felt

757
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: like I finished that book so fast. That's why Gone

758
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: Girl is my favorite book. I've seen the movie. So

759
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: just to play Devil's advocate, you know, you could also

760
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: argue that the slower you read a book, that means

761
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: you're just savoring every single sentence. When I go through

762
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: Michelin Star restaurant, I I save that every bint of

763
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: every little the chef sends out because he puts so

764
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: much effort into it. Um, and it's important to respect

765
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: that work, right and not just your favor um. In

766
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: our last episode, there was a point at which we

767
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: imagine what it would be like if Hannah Gatsby said

768
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: the sentence I just drank a bunch of come? Can

769
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: you say that sentence in the Australian accent as Hannah Gatsby? Okay, um,

770
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: let me think for a seeking Okay, so she's the

771
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: slaved bean's kind of sorry or just drawing a bucket

772
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: of come? How no bucket? That was a good That

773
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 1: was a good improv r Wow, look at the because

774
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm going out of the pack right, more important things, um,

775
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: such as not drinking come. Um Okay, so what's our topic?

776
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: I thank you. So we have various topic options. Let

777
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: me pull them up. Actually they were sent by Eric.

778
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: I want to give credit work credits due, okay, I

779
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 1: also have to go in thirty minutes. Okay, but seein

780
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: you had to take the reins you know. No, no,

781
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: we should will be done spoil solo my solo app

782
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: by having that. Yeah, we're gonna do solo epps at

783
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: some point. People in the order we ask you in

784
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: as the order in which we like you. So you

785
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: have that to look forward to. Okay. Our options are

786
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: micro breweries, craft culture, van life, upstate, and God. I

787
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: think what we should do is each go around. I'm

788
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: gonna pick one of these and then we can each

789
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: go around saying one sentence how we feel about it.

790
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, micro breweries, I'll go first. Micro

791
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: breweries more like micro penish. That was a straight shooter

792
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 1: of mine one time, so beef um I would say

793
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: about micro breweries, Um, you know two thousand one call

794
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: they want their culture back. M hmm, all never forget

795
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: nine eleven. Okay, I'm sort of this segment is kind

796
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: of like come up with a one liner about a

797
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: micro normal never done this. We're just trying to run

798
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: through and talk about it. But but now I wanted

799
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: to sim's it's just if something comes to you, say

800
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: it right, Okay? Micro breweries. I mean I'm drawing a

801
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: blank and I think that's everything. Okay, A couple sitting

802
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: with ice cold pints of beer. Beautiful view, completely silent, okay,

803
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: William Carlos Williams called stops feeling for what you want.

804
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,959
Speaker 1: Isn't this a great view? And do you know what's

805
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: devastating is like when you overhear a couple trying to

806
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: start some kind of a conversation. Nothing is coming naturally,

807
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: and I feel like a micro brewery is a perfect

808
00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: setting for that. Can I think at least can I answer? Okay,

809
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: one at a time? Okay, My answer is just a

810
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: just an infinity scarf, yes, okay, micro breweries are the

811
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: infinity scarf of men. I mean, I think there's women

812
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: at the brewery. I think it's like, but it's the

813
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: men's decision to a wide couple is wide man um. Yeah.

814
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: I also just like I don't like that kind of beer.

815
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: I like a like a European light piss beer, you

816
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And I think berries tend to

817
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: be heavy, bittery. I p a kind of hoppy, hoppy, hoppy.

818
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: I hate the word hoppy. I hate the word hoppy.

819
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: I think this is cool. I think it's so um.

820
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: It's so we so often erase gay men drinking beer

821
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: for the joke, for the for the image and apple

822
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: t Yeah, and I think it's so important to say, hey,

823
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: we we exist and in droves, we just like a

824
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: different kind. And yet I'm randomly only drinking hard now?

825
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: Is that true? Fun? Yeah? June? That Yeah, I mean

826
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: that was good, it's good. How much alcohol does it have?

827
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: It's like six? Yeah? Yeah? And what has activated charcoal

828
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: in it? If you like tip the can upside down,

829
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: which I thought was insane. But also no one has

830
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: ever explained to me what that is activated charcoal? Yeah, okay,

831
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: so obviously you're familiar. I just mean, like, it's in toothpaste,

832
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: it's in gum, it's in food. Yeah. I don't get

833
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: why everyone thinks it's good. To me, it seems like

834
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: something that we shouldn't be ingesting, right, I mean, can

835
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: you think of anything more sinister sounding than activated in

836
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: the charcoal toothpaste? It's always just like it makes your

837
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: tooth pressure black and I'm just like, this doesn't look right,

838
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: Like this is horrible mold. It looks like Yeah, I

839
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: just I think the bathroom is not a space where

840
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: you want just like all this like black liquid. Mm hmm,

841
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: I would agree. Okay, um, craft culture like arts and craft.

842
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: I think you meant what you were doing, well, that

843
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: was I meant just like like maker craft culture, but

844
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: it was kind of just play off the micro You

845
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: think maker craft culture is like violently straight. Yeah, I

846
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: mean I'm notting like a shelf that's made out of

847
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: like a plank of wood that you like a splinter

848
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: on if you like rub your hand across. But also,

849
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: gay people are really bad at stuff, so like they

850
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: make a lot of shitty ship you know what I mean.

851
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: And so I think that that there's a lot of

852
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: gay craft out there. I mean every fucking queer exchange

853
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: book is full of just like, um, I made this

854
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: like dildos shelf and there's like nail sticking out of

855
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: it and it's like not turned on. Yeah, craft culture

856
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: is also it resides in I want to say, the

857
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: Northeast almost exclusively and the Southwest almost exclusively, those two

858
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: corners of America or where craft culture and supreme I

859
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: mean like Arizona. Yeah, well that you're talking about like

860
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: o g craft Seattle because I think that, but like

861
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: the pinterest explosion has turned I think most of Middle

862
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: America into graft land. Right, wow, I'm just saying about

863
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: like like home pickling, like kind of like cottage corey

864
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: stuff too. Cottage core is very different than like a

865
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: popsicle stick, you know, Christmas ornament that you're getting off.

866
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think because most women in Iowa like

867
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: have a room in their house that's called the crafting room,

868
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: and there's like full of pipe cleaners and all this

869
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: ship and like they go in there and they scrap

870
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: book and they do all this ship and like that's

871
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: not I think the kind of culture we're referred to

872
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: when we talk about the Northeast and Southwest and turquoise

873
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: jewelry and and you know, all these artisans if you will, right,

874
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: right right, that's a good point. Your portrail of my

875
00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: Marvor Mead found actually studied um at the do you

876
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: at the University of Verage. So wow, congrats, I heard

877
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: that program is really good and costs five million dollars yeah, definitely.

878
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: It's five mal um. But you got um, you got

879
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: one meal a week your parents, Yes, five million of

880
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: your parents money. That's like part of the deal. Um

881
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: school parents love to spend. Well, wait, we actually do

882
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: need to do a fine. Wait, hold on van life.

883
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: And honestly that was maybe my favorite because it's like

884
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: it's like so embarrassing. Well, let's talk about van life

885
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: for a moment and then we can so that one.

886
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: What is that? Like, what are we talking about? Do

887
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: we mean living in a van living? I think we

888
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: mean I think it means Instagram culture hashtag where it's

889
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: like kind of artisanal refurbished vans that are like kind

890
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: of cool in theory and like look great in pictures.

891
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: It's also like we sold our house, like we don't

892
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: want to mortgage, Like we just like we want to

893
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: be free, we want to have some of the you

894
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: try to recreate. It's like people who have never had

895
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: access to culture then being like, well, I guess I'll

896
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: live in a van. It's like just see a play.

897
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: Here's what I think about van life. I think it's

898
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: kind of like a like it's like a straight way

899
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: to be queer. Like you're like you're a straight, monogamous

900
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: couple and you're like, okay, like, but look, we have

901
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: a van and yeah, but you know, hey, we live

902
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: in you know, a desperate, sad world where there's nothing

903
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: to do and no one has anything of value that

904
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: they can contribute to the economy, and so they're like,

905
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: what do we do? Well? Some people are have these

906
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: Instagram accounts of followers where they like get an airstream

907
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: trailer and take some wide angle lends shots and I

908
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: guess we'll do that, you know, And I don't know

909
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: if they necessarily are so cynical and their choice to

910
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: do that. They're more just sort of on the track

911
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: and they go for it because they can't think of

912
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: anything else. I mean, to me, it just felt like

913
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: so straight culture, you know, like only like like couple

914
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: who kind of had like nothing just talk about anymore,

915
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: but like set out on this adventure where they just

916
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: sit next to each other. Like what am I saying?

917
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: You're not wrong? You're not wrong, But here's why you're

918
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: not wrong. It's not the way that you think that

919
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: you are correct. Okay, straight, it's straight culture because straight

920
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: people have closed relationships and gay people are more open

921
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: and they need to see other gay people, and they

922
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: need to like interact with other gay people, and people

923
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: can be quite literally in this moving coffin and they're

924
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: fine with that. And I don't mean I don't think

925
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: gay people would be able to sort of stomach that

926
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: in the same way. Wait, that's genius, that actually makes

927
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: much sense. I mean I don't think that was necessarily

928
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: like negating what I was saying. I mean, I think

929
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: just there's like a martyrdom to like a monogamous straight relationship.

930
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: And I think like this idea of like you basically

931
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: become this like pilgrim, but it's like as a couple,

932
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: you know. I mean it goes back to like camping

933
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: and things like that, like limiting your own resources are

934
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: like limiting your own like access to civilization, like modern

935
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: civilization as a way to like have fun or make

936
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: a point. Well, it's a it's I mean, it is.

937
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: It's about limits. Yes, it's like we're limited resources. But

938
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,239
Speaker 1: I think you know you on the other hand, you

939
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: could say that gay people with our death drive and

940
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: are like and our need to just consume every possible

941
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: like should we stas experience and every possible drug and

942
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: every possible club and every possible party. We always have

943
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: to go to the next apartment of seven other games.

944
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: It's like that is also a disease, you know, the

945
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: lack of totally Yeah, you're like so many as we

946
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: weave between strollers, on your on your way to pick

947
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: up your dog from coffee. Straight people like to consume ghasoly,

948
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's what they like to consume, Katamie.

949
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: Big difference, that's I haven't done well, never mine, I've

950
00:55:54,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: never done six years. Okay, okay, the way which I

951
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: don't know what to do with that information. The four

952
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 1: the four of us, let's all get together and let's

953
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: do it right, let's set the date. Yeah, I mean

954
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: I'll do a bump like, yeah, I just to me,

955
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: it's a little too as someone who likes to be

956
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: in control, it's a little bit too like where are

957
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: we going with us? And it would be good for you, Steven.

958
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: I think it could help. I think it would help

959
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: you be more like me. I don't think I think

960
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: you're the you, you know what I mean? I think

961
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: you're enough you for the both of us. Sweetheart, super

962
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: hard out in three minutes. Yeah, okay, So here's the thing.

963
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: We have to very quickly to our final segment in

964
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: two minutes, in which we each give a radio shout

965
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: out to something we are living for in the style

966
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: of like MTVS TRL or like a kind of call

967
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: in radio show. So we'll go first, and you never

968
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: follow what I'm saying. I can go, Okay, what's up, listeners, Um,

969
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to

970
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: the place where I bit my lip on Saturday. It

971
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: has hurt for the whole week and it's only gotten worse.

972
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,439
Speaker 1: And I swear to God, I only been at one time.

973
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't even that thing where I been it over

974
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: and over. I been at once. Nevertheless, she persisted, it

975
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: hurts so bad. I've been trying to figure out how

976
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: to heal my lip, but nothing will fix it. And

977
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 1: it is painful to eat, it is painful to talk,

978
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: and it is just a lip. You never know how

979
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: much you use your lips until one is damaged. And

980
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: I have such a different perspective on life. And when

981
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: this is all over, I would be so grateful to eat,

982
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: always so grateful to drink, and always so grateful to

983
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 1: laugh laugh laugh, ha ha ha. Much love to all

984
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: my friends, x O x O Sam. Hey, what's up, listeners.

985
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: I want to give a quick shout out to my

986
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: co host Sam Taggard for everything he just said and

987
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: deciding that he would give a shout out to the

988
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: concept of biting his lip and then having it hurt.

989
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: It really played with the form in a way that um,

990
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, Arca found dead and I am very aware

991
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: of the time, and so I'm gonna act if I

992
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: give space to more queer men that have gayer voices

993
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: than I do. As a form of preparations. Who um, hey, y'all,

994
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking my call. I just want

995
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: to give a quick shout out to Prila Sack, which

996
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: I am on a fourteen day round up, because my

997
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: dad said that all of the things that I thought

998
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: were me having possibly stomach cancer, possibly something called an angina,

999
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: possibly something called the Chet's disease was actually just acid

1000
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: read blox um, and that I should just go on

1001
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: a fourteen day period of prilosax. So we're working through that.

1002
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: We're not on coffee, we're reducing acids um from our diet,

1003
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: and I think it's working. You know, I have been there,

1004
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: and you'll get to the other side, excited Eric have

1005
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: literally Hey listeners, I just wanted to give a huge

1006
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: shout out to my four pm fart out. It really

1007
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: gets me out of having to continue this conversation, and um,

1008
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: it really speaks to kind of having things to do

1009
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: in schedules and calendars, etcetera. On having things to do. Okay,

1010
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: well it is four pm, so I have to go

1011
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:28,479
Speaker 1: and with Hi, thank you for doing the pod. Thanks

1012
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: so much for having us, so much for having us