Speaker 1: Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of Our Heart Radio
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Speaker 1: session with your girl. Just hilarious. Right, all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna jump right in. This person wants to stay anonymous,
Speaker 1: and these are not voice notes. I'm gonna be reading
Speaker 1: these today. Here we go. Hey, Jess, I've been in
Speaker 1: my current relationship for six years now. I really love
Speaker 1: my boyfriend and who he is. He's funny, very social,
Speaker 1: he's smart, and he really pushes me to get out
Speaker 1: of my element and has taught me how to really
Speaker 1: relax and rest. I'm the kind of person who stays
Speaker 1: very busy in his multiple jobs, and it's always doing
Speaker 1: a lot to get my mind off of the bad
Speaker 1: in life that causes me to have anxiety. About six
Speaker 1: months ago, I broke up with him because there are
Speaker 1: things in the relationship that I have been asking from him,
Speaker 1: such as him taking large and taking lead with house
Speaker 1: projects and other aspects of our relationship. So I communicate
Speaker 1: what I need in a relationship and what is expected
Speaker 1: from my significant other, but he never stays consistent. He
Speaker 1: just does it for a little while and then stops.
Speaker 1: After expressing this to him, we decided to try and
Speaker 1: make it work. Now six months go by and I
Speaker 1: still have to be on his back to get anything done.
Speaker 1: He doesn't and doesn't put his full effort into it,
Speaker 1: so I have to go back and do it correctly
Speaker 1: or finish it off. From the start of the relationship,
Speaker 1: he's gotten better, but there's new things now because we
Speaker 1: grew and our environment changed. We aren't married and we
Speaker 1: don't have any kids, but we recently just got a
Speaker 1: house together, so the environment change, and of course there's
Speaker 1: a lot more responsibilities. But he's just not adjusting. I
Speaker 1: tell him how I feel, and he says he'll change,
Speaker 1: and that he feels like I'm criticizing everything he does
Speaker 1: and he's exhausted. This causes him to shut down too.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I love him and I don't want
Speaker 1: him to feel bad at about himself. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't know how to get my point across. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just at the point where I'm tired of repeating
Speaker 1: myself and at the point where I just don't want
Speaker 1: to wait for him to get his things together anymore.
Speaker 1: Should I continue to wait and try to drill it
Speaker 1: in his head, or should I move on? It's been
Speaker 1: six years. Also, what I mean by shut down is
Speaker 1: he gets mad at me for criticizing him and stops
Speaker 1: talking to me completely. So he's mad at me for
Speaker 1: being mad Jesus Cross, all right, you're a little manipulating
Speaker 1: narcissistm No, Okay, I'm just just joking a little bit. Okay.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like he's very lazy. It sounds like
Speaker 1: you guys have been together for six years and he
Speaker 1: hasn't evolved, but you have. It sounds like you've been
Speaker 1: basically holding his hand up until this point. He'll do
Speaker 1: great for a little bit and then go right back
Speaker 1: into lazy mode. I'm gonna call it lazy because that's
Speaker 1: what it sounds like from your passage. It's very lazy.
Speaker 1: Have you ever talked to him about why he does this?
Speaker 1: Not so much telling him to do something, not so
Speaker 1: much being his mother, because that's exactly what you act
Speaker 1: as when you know. I can see how that happens.
Speaker 1: I can see how that happens. This happens with me
Speaker 1: and Jerome a lot. That's my son's father. I talk
Speaker 1: at him a lot because I get so angry because
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, why aren't you making these manly decisions?
Speaker 1: Why are you just so irresponsible? Why can't you DoD
Speaker 1: Why this? Why that? Why that? So it kind of
Speaker 1: seems to him like I'm trying to play mommy like
Speaker 1: I'm his mother. But a man doesn't want a woman
Speaker 1: that actually acts like his mother or acts as if
Speaker 1: she is his mother. They want us to be submissive
Speaker 1: a little bit. But in your defense, you're like, how
Speaker 1: can I be submissive to someone who won't take lead,
Speaker 1: who won't initiate doing manly things, whether it's gender roles
Speaker 1: or not. It's like, yo, be a fucking man already.
Speaker 1: I totally understand where you're coming from, but I want
Speaker 1: you to kind of like get to the bottom of
Speaker 1: why he acts that way, if it's worth it to you.
Speaker 1: You know, six years is not a little bit of time. Baby.
Speaker 1: You've been dealing with this for six years. So there
Speaker 1: has been something I had to keep you around. You know,
Speaker 1: you said you're not married, you don't have children. There
Speaker 1: has to be something that keeps you, something that he does. Great,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to walk away, I never encourage
Speaker 1: someone to walk away from a relationship unless they're being abused,
Speaker 1: unless they're being hurt, unless they are being treated less
Speaker 1: than who they are, And here it doesn't really seem
Speaker 1: like that's the case. However, you do deserve better. You
Speaker 1: do need to have a better balance in your relationship.
Speaker 1: You can't be the breadwinner. You can't be the brains.
Speaker 1: You can't be you can't be the everything. You can't
Speaker 1: be the man in your relationship. You are the woman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you should get to the bottom of that.
Speaker 1: Communication is key. I always say it and try not
Speaker 1: to talk at him so much, you know, because I
Speaker 1: do understand he gets upset with you for being upset
Speaker 1: with him, but it's probably the way you talk to him.
Speaker 1: Trust me, I've been in this situation, and while I'm
Speaker 1: not justifying his lacking in the relationship, be because he
Speaker 1: needs to do those things, you know, especially since you
Speaker 1: guys just brought home together, you guys just gotten to
Speaker 1: your first house. I'm assuming you know. I do feel
Speaker 1: that he may feel a sense of disrespect when you're
Speaker 1: talking to him, when you're constantly fussing and probably harping
Speaker 1: on on these things. But that's your frustration and that's
Speaker 1: probably the only way that you feel you can get
Speaker 1: through to him. So you've learned to express yourself in
Speaker 1: that manner, and that's not good either. So both of
Speaker 1: you need to sit down and have a civilized conversation
Speaker 1: and try to get to the bottom of what it
Speaker 1: is that he's going through. If he's going through something,
Speaker 1: you know he could just be regular playing old lazy,
Speaker 1: then you've got to get the hell up and leave babe.
Speaker 1: That's just what it is. You seem like you love him.
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't talk bad about him at all.
Speaker 1: You just are telling me what his flaws are and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Do you want children? Do you
Speaker 1: want marriage? Do you feel like that you've been girlfriend
Speaker 1: a boyfriend too long? Because in a relationship, when you
Speaker 1: get in a relationship, which I just recently learned in
Speaker 1: my previous relationship, you have to communicate exactly what it
Speaker 1: is you want from a relationship before diving into it.
Speaker 1: You have to know your partner. You have to know
Speaker 1: what they're going to accept, what they're willing to accept,
Speaker 1: what they are not willing to accept. And I think
Speaker 1: you accepting it for so long has conditioned him to
Speaker 1: be okay with what he does you know, I know
Speaker 1: she's just gonna fuss at me. I'm gonna just do
Speaker 1: this ship right now, and then I go back to
Speaker 1: who I really am. You know what I'm saying, So
Speaker 1: both of you, I'm not going to just deem one
Speaker 1: person as the wrong doer. You carry a lot of
Speaker 1: wrong in it as well, because you've allowed a lot
Speaker 1: of this for so long, babe. So it's all about
Speaker 1: how you want to move forward. Do you think it's
Speaker 1: worth staying with him? Do you feel like that that
Speaker 1: you're just so annoyed by what he does now that
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, we've completely fucked this up so bad.
Speaker 1: I don't even see us reconciling. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: see reconciliation in our future. These are the questions that
Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself. But I definitely need you
Speaker 1: to try to see what his problem is. And like
Speaker 1: I said, don't talk at him, talk to him because
Speaker 1: he's another human being. But check back in with me.
Speaker 1: I hope that helped you. If you love me, you'll
Speaker 1: listen to this commercial and then we'll be right back
Speaker 1: and we are moving on. Hey, just love the podcast.
Speaker 1: Here's my dilemma I've been dealing with this guy since September.
Speaker 1: First couple of months, we were dating, sexually involved, and
Speaker 1: he was adjusting to a new work schedule, so the
Speaker 1: dates slowed down because he damned near only had one
Speaker 1: day off and he worked that night and I worked
Speaker 1: throughout the day. He didn't have weekends off like I did.
Speaker 1: I was understanding of that. I asked his intentions. He
Speaker 1: said he was dating to marry. I'm like, cool, we're
Speaker 1: on the same page. I ended up getting pregnant and
Speaker 1: we chose to terminate due to the fact that we
Speaker 1: just met and I didn't know for real if we
Speaker 1: saw each other in each other's lives long term. So
Speaker 1: after that, I thought we were still working toward a relationship.
Speaker 1: Though by January he got into some legal trouble. Then
Speaker 1: he came home and told me he had a baby
Speaker 1: on the way. He was dealing with her before the
Speaker 1: trouble happened, So now I'm like, damn, not only were
Speaker 1: you sexually involved with me, but her too. Wow. I
Speaker 1: have been on and off with this man since he
Speaker 1: told me he had a baby on the way. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: we weren't in a committed relationship when it happened. But
Speaker 1: I think the fact that we decided not to have
Speaker 1: a child together is still in my mind. Now he
Speaker 1: has a whole newborn. I have been trying to cut
Speaker 1: this man off, but I can't see him to do so.
Speaker 1: I've still been dating others, but no other connection compares
Speaker 1: to what we have. He keeps saying how bad he
Speaker 1: wants to be with me. He just plans on co
Speaker 1: parenting with the mother of his child. I need to
Speaker 1: hear from someone else's point of view. Should I try
Speaker 1: to work it out with this man or be done
Speaker 1: for good no matter how hard it may be. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: thank you for keeping it short. But that was a
Speaker 1: whole lot and a little bit of time baby. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: given the fact that there was no commitment, you guys
Speaker 1: just started off basically having sex and talking. There was
Speaker 1: no from your end, there was no exclusivity. He told
Speaker 1: you that he was dating to marry you. In return,
Speaker 1: didn't say that, I mean, unless you just didn't say
Speaker 1: that to me, But it seemed like you kind of
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, you actually said it. You're like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know if we were really gonna
Speaker 1: be in each other's lives for a long period of time.
Speaker 1: Given that M hmm, I don't think that you could
Speaker 1: fault him so much for having a baby, because in
Speaker 1: all reality, at the end of the day, it was
Speaker 1: the other girl's decision to keep it. Um. Now, we
Speaker 1: don't know what he told her. He could have told
Speaker 1: her to get rid of it, he could have prompted
Speaker 1: her to keep it. Whatever. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's the woman's decision. So let's just say she chose
Speaker 1: to have the baby and he just wants to compare
Speaker 1: it with her. Is he upfront and honest with you
Speaker 1: about everything? Did you have to find anything out that?
Speaker 1: Did you ever catch him in a lie? I mean,
Speaker 1: what are the facts? I mean? And and you can't
Speaker 1: question him having unprotected sex with someone else when you
Speaker 1: two barely knew each other and he was having unprotected
Speaker 1: sex with you. You have to question if he moves
Speaker 1: like this with me, why would he be exempt to
Speaker 1: move like this with anyone else. You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And you let that happen, you got pregnant, and you
Speaker 1: two chose to aboard for the right reason, of course,
Speaker 1: but that's still traumatizing to you now because he has
Speaker 1: a baby if it's going to be hard for you
Speaker 1: to get past, I would say stay oh way, because
Speaker 1: that's toxicity waiting to happen. If he keeps telling you
Speaker 1: how bad he wants to be with you, you know,
Speaker 1: when you want to be with him. I think you
Speaker 1: need some type of clarity because I feel like you
Speaker 1: feel that he already fucked up your trust a little bit,
Speaker 1: you know, but there was never any foundation established with
Speaker 1: you two. He got into legal trouble. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: he probably didn't know he had a baby on the
Speaker 1: way if that happened, you know, But the fact that
Speaker 1: the girl kept it, I don't know, that's in the
Speaker 1: red flag. I mean, because do you know him well
Speaker 1: enough to keep his baby? Now? There are girls out
Speaker 1: here who meet guys, have sex with him the same day,
Speaker 1: have babies. That's why there's a such thing as paternity court.
Speaker 1: But was this an ex girlfriend? I mean, I just
Speaker 1: need you to get all information that you can before
Speaker 1: you just obliged to be with him, you know, before
Speaker 1: you say, you know what, this is what I'm gonna do,
Speaker 1: because I think it's the trust factor for you. Now
Speaker 1: you know the fact that y'all got rid of y'all child,
Speaker 1: and he still ended up having one. And you said
Speaker 1: you talked to other people, but nothing compared to the
Speaker 1: connection that you two have. I'm not gonna tell you
Speaker 1: not to give it a try. I just want you
Speaker 1: to find out more information. There has to be an
Speaker 1: open and honest line of communication from here on out. Always.
Speaker 1: You know, you're always going to be in the back
Speaker 1: of your mind. Is he still sucking with his baby mother?
Speaker 1: Are they only co parenting? Is it? You know you're
Speaker 1: gonna think that way because of how the baby was made.
Speaker 1: You're always gonna have those questions. So I think that
Speaker 1: you need to leave reservation for your sanity as well
Speaker 1: before you just go and jump in a relationship with
Speaker 1: this guy. I'm not gonna tell you not to just move,
Speaker 1: move carefully, move slowly, but surely you know apps reolutely
Speaker 1: should be sure of yourself. Don't move too fast. You see,
Speaker 1: we're moving too fast? Got your ass? What a year ago?
Speaker 1: Pregnant and abhort it? Okay? Wayne? Doing that? And stop
Speaker 1: having sex with no condom? Oh yeah, and you are
Speaker 1: not in a relationship. We need to stop doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say we have done it as well. We
Speaker 1: need to stop doing that altogether. But you didn't ask
Speaker 1: for me to preach to you. You asked for the advice,
Speaker 1: and that was my advice. So check back in with me.
Speaker 1: Definitely check back in with me. Hold up, Hold up,
Speaker 1: I noticed ship getting good. But listen to just a
Speaker 1: couple of seconds of a commercial. If you love me,
Speaker 1: you'll listen last one of the day. Hey, jus love
Speaker 1: your podcast. Been a fan since the early days, and
Speaker 1: I just need some advice. So I am twenty three
Speaker 1: years old, no children. I'm currently in graduate school, a
Speaker 1: full time special education teacher, and preparing to take my
Speaker 1: l s a T so I can get accepted into
Speaker 1: the law school. The past few years, I've been dating
Speaker 1: my boyfriend, who has been my best friend and one
Speaker 1: of the only people I hang out with. More recently,
Speaker 1: I've decided to start hanging out with my female cousins,
Speaker 1: who are all around the same age as me or
Speaker 1: a couple of years older than I am, because I
Speaker 1: want to hang out with more girls. Out of the
Speaker 1: seven girls I hang with, only one, who was also
Speaker 1: my other best friend, is in a relationship and has
Speaker 1: been in a relationship just as the same amount of
Speaker 1: time as me. Many of them don't understand why I
Speaker 1: don't go out to clubs or don't do parties because
Speaker 1: of my relationship. If they go out to brunch or
Speaker 1: lunch or even dinner, or even go to a lounge,
Speaker 1: I show up, but anything else I do not show
Speaker 1: up to, they are saying that I am in a
Speaker 1: controlling relationship because I don't do these things, which, mind you,
Speaker 1: I have not been to a party or club since
Speaker 1: I was about nineteen because I've always been super serious
Speaker 1: about my education and pursuing my career. I don't think
Speaker 1: I am just preferred to respect my relationship and not
Speaker 1: go out working and hanging out with a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of niggas when I have a man at home. More recently,
Speaker 1: they have been inviting me to less and lass things
Speaker 1: because I haven't been showing up to overnight things or
Speaker 1: just things that I just personally don't do. Do you
Speaker 1: feel as though I am being a bad friend because
Speaker 1: of my busy schedules and me just not hanging out
Speaker 1: in certain spaces because it's not my type of energy
Speaker 1: or vibe. Do you think that I should just go
Speaker 1: out with them a couple of times just to get
Speaker 1: them off my back. Honey, Listen, No, I don't think
Speaker 1: that you should inconvenience yourself or make yourself uncomfortable at
Speaker 1: the expense of someone else, whether that be your man,
Speaker 1: whether it be your friends, whether if it, don't make
Speaker 1: yourself uncomfortable for nobody but your child, because sometimes being
Speaker 1: a parent can get like that. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: always fun being a parent. Your your children don't always
Speaker 1: put you in easy situations, and you're reading a whole
Speaker 1: human being. So just no going forward. That is the
Speaker 1: only time that you're supposed to or you're expected to
Speaker 1: make yourself uncomfortable, you know, for your damn child. Listen,
Speaker 1: if there is nothing going on at home, if he's
Speaker 1: not controlling you, if he's not abusive, if he's not
Speaker 1: possessive and obsessive with his girlfriend, you know, if he
Speaker 1: don't have Alicia around your damn nick girl, you are
Speaker 1: totally entitled to respect your man. I mean he respects you,
Speaker 1: DON'TI you don't have no issues when he ain't club hopping,
Speaker 1: it's working on bar stands and all that. Not that
Speaker 1: you said all that, but I'm just saying. They are
Speaker 1: single women, so they're living according to their dating status there.
Speaker 1: That's how they You know, it's nothing wrong with that
Speaker 1: going out popping your booty and taking shots, and you know,
Speaker 1: the nightlife is very different you right now, all right
Speaker 1: the time in your life where you're trying to be successful,
Speaker 1: you're trying to grow your career. So I don't even
Speaker 1: have everything to do with your man, and I love
Speaker 1: how you pointed that out. No, it ain't even all
Speaker 1: my man. I'm very serious about my education. I've always
Speaker 1: taken my career serious and I've always been a serious
Speaker 1: person when it comes to education. So if your friends
Speaker 1: can't respect that, maybe you don't have the right friends
Speaker 1: and has nothing to do with your relationship. It has
Speaker 1: everything to do with where you're trying to go in
Speaker 1: your life, and very little to do with your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm pretty sure if you were to ask him, oh,
Speaker 1: can I go out and hang out? You know, or babe,
Speaker 1: I'm going here, he wouldn't have an issue with it,
Speaker 1: because you just said at the end of the passage,
Speaker 1: should I go and hang out with them just to
Speaker 1: get them off my back. I mean, if you can,
Speaker 1: then it obviously ain't your boyfriend. If you can go
Speaker 1: and hang out with them, and obviously ain't your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: He ain't the one controlling you. This is just something
Speaker 1: that you don't want to do. But how long have
Speaker 1: you been friends with these girls? Because they're supposed to
Speaker 1: know this, they're supposed to know this. And while I
Speaker 1: know you want to hang out with more girls and
Speaker 1: you want a social life that doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: every day, that doesn't have to be even every weekend,
Speaker 1: set your weekends. You know, there's a schedule. Make your
Speaker 1: schedule according to the fun you want to have, according
Speaker 1: to leisure, according to when you want to get out. Say,
Speaker 1: for instance, you know you go to school Monday through Friday,
Speaker 1: go out every first and third weekend with your girls,
Speaker 1: you know, then every second and fourth weekend that's you
Speaker 1: and your man's weekend. You know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: let's just say that, let's be serious about it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you have a path that
Speaker 1: you're on and you want to stay afloat them. Girls
Speaker 1: gonna understand when they get somebody that they love and
Speaker 1: they want to be a punder that person. And you know,
Speaker 1: because you and your boyfriend lived together or you know,
Speaker 1: like they need to first of all not making so
Speaker 1: much about your boyfriends. They need to actually respect your
Speaker 1: relationship and respect where you are in your life right now.
Speaker 1: I don't want nothing but successful home girls. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm manifesting. My home girls have businesses. My home girls
Speaker 1: have careers. That's a damn flex where my friends doing
Speaker 1: a damn ship. I got successful friends, you know, Pretty V, B, Simone, Quay,
Speaker 1: I have successful friends, DC, Young Fly and you know
Speaker 1: Nick Can I got. I really have a lot of
Speaker 1: successful friends. It's nothing like uplifting and help building your friends,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We all have a group text,
Speaker 1: We have a group chat, me Pretty V and B,
Speaker 1: Simone and Quay, and we just love on each other.
Speaker 1: We were we caused only remind each other that we
Speaker 1: are great. We are all young black creators. We are
Speaker 1: doing the fucking thing. Okay. I'm so proud of all
Speaker 1: of you. I love you now. I don't see these
Speaker 1: three people every day, No I don't because we're all busy.
Speaker 1: But if they were all busy like you, they would understand.
Speaker 1: Not all of us are in relationships. Actually I don't
Speaker 1: think any of us are in relationships. But either way,
Speaker 1: that don't go to say that we're lonely. I've been
Speaker 1: in relationships before, you know, and they they have, but
Speaker 1: we're all single right now and we still understand there's
Speaker 1: a grind that we need to be on. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I am going out the
Speaker 1: party and ship, I ain't got to worry about paying
Speaker 1: my bills or I know this is done. I got
Speaker 1: deadlines to me. Girl. Don't pay them girls, no damn mine.
Speaker 1: And I think that you should have a conversation with
Speaker 1: them and let them know it. Really, I really think
Speaker 1: that you guys don't consider my whole life. You guys
Speaker 1: want to kind of put me in this box where, oh,
Speaker 1: my boyfriend is controlling me. Y'all not know I go
Speaker 1: to school. Do y'all know that I'm I'm trying to
Speaker 1: prepare to take my l s a T. Do you
Speaker 1: guys realize how serious that I've been about school? Y'all
Speaker 1: my friends, so y'all should know this. And y'all don't
Speaker 1: say nothing to the other best friend? Who I mean?
Speaker 1: Do they do? They make a big deal about her
Speaker 1: having a boyfriend. It's different. You're growing up, so I
Speaker 1: think you just need to have a conversation with those girls.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that you should ever make yourself
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and make yourself do something that you don't want
Speaker 1: to do just to fit in or just to get
Speaker 1: somebody off your back. Look, if they're on your back, shit,
Speaker 1: brush your shoulders off. I know that was kind of corny,
Speaker 1: but whatever, all right, just check back in with me,
Speaker 1: baby after you have that conversation, or if you just
Speaker 1: want to go out because that's something that you want
Speaker 1: to do because you do want a social life, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But like I said, put yourself on the schedule first weekend.
Speaker 1: I'm think all right, y'all, we can do this. We
Speaker 1: do sitting paint with new club. We can. But there
Speaker 1: needs to be an understanding that these girls need to
Speaker 1: have about you, and they need to respect that there's
Speaker 1: a certain boundary that you on cross. My friend is
Speaker 1: trying to do her damn thing. That needs to be
Speaker 1: their standpoint. Laura, go ahead and she'll will, she'll catch
Speaker 1: up with us, or she can ship like that. But
Speaker 1: you're still young. You got plenty of time to fucking party, baby,
Speaker 1: plenty of time. But what you don't have, and I
Speaker 1: don't care what nobody say, it's plenty, plenty, plenty of
Speaker 1: time to make your dreams come true. Start right now.
Speaker 1: You're doing a great fucking job. Do not quit to
Speaker 1: a party. Okay, okay, And just like that, we've come
Speaker 1: to the end of another Carefully Reckless episode with your
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