1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by All Copy Products, proud partner 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. Learn more at All copy Products 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: dot com. For the fifteen of the ten Mer's Gonna 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: score touchdown, Welcome to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Slim 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: to the Ground by Budda Baker Like a torpedo, he 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: came flying into the backfield one hand to catch at 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown DeAndre Hopkins. The Cardinals Red Sea Report is 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: brought to you by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Asy Cardinals 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: dot com Slash podcast Here week go. This is caught 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: by Kurt at the twenty at the ten touchdown. Oh 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: baby field, Here's Craig Griolou, Mike Jarecki and three time 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch. All right, quick, wellness, check off 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: the top. How did everyone handle the first Sunday without 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: football in about seven months? And between the three of us, 15 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm most worried about you, mj on how you dealt 16 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: with the first Sunday without any football whatsoever. Well, I 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: did watch a couple of games on the NFL network. 18 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: There we go, there's always football somewhere. Actually, they were 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: replaying the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Rams game and they're showing 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are three and o at that time. Okay, 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: this is this is encouraging. And of course you know 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: the Rams were able to win that game and everything else. 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: But yeah, and I did watch a Super Bowl again. 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: Just you know, every time you watch it, you figure 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: something else out, even though they score doesn't change. That's true. 26 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. You can watch these games all over again, 27 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: but the outcome and what you remember is still right 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: there for you. And I'm guessing for you, Kyle, there 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: was plenty to do without football in your life. You've 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: got a house full of kids and a lot of 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: fun stuff that was going on over the weekend. You 32 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: were telling us, Yeah, I took the kids skiing up 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: in Flagstaff. I don't get on skis. Was not made 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: for winter or even extreme type sports. I like to 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: have my feet firmly on the ground, so I did 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot of carrying around supplies. I was basically the 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: pack mule for the weekend. But it's good. It feels 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl was a month ago already. But yeah, 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: I mean this is as as a diehard football fan now, 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: it already seems like a long offseason. I always have 41 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: told Craig whoever made the NFL calendar, he needs a 42 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: race because, you know, after the Super Bowl, all of 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: a sudden, now we're getting closer to the Combine and 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: then free agency and then obviously offseason workouts. So you know, 45 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: obviously when you get to June, middle of June into 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: the end of July, that's really the only time they're off. Yeah, 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: it's not only the schedule. The NFL does a fantastic 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: job of marketing and selling and selling advertisements and promoting. 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: You know, all of these offseason events like the Combine 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: is you know, really been a must watch. It's turned 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: into a must watch thing, and it's a lot of 52 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: people's first opportunity to really get a good look at 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 1: some of these college athletes and see what they look 54 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: like and how physically skilled some of these athletes are. 55 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, it is just one thing after 56 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: the next, and you know, there's always something to be 57 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: thinking about and talk about during an NFL offseason, and 58 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: right now, the thinking and talking about still remains what happened? 59 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: What happened to the Arizona Cardinals in twenty twenty one, 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: you go ten and two and then one and five 61 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: down the stretch, and this is the time where after 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: a little bit of a break, the coaches come back 63 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: into the facility breakdown tape on what happened and looking 64 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: ahead not only the free agency but the draft prospects 65 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: as well. Last week, first opportunity to hear outside of 66 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: head coach Cliff Kingsbury, but one of the assistant coaches, 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: wide receivers coach Sean Jefferson, a gift on the Big 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Red Rage, and of course the question had to be asked, 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: what happened to the offense down the stretch. I think 70 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: injuries happened to us at the wrong time. And you know, 71 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: we're making a Super Bowl run. You've got to kind 72 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: of hitting on all cylinas healthwise and everything like that. 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: And you know, our quarterback went down. Ud hop was 74 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: a major part of that because it changed the way 75 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: the defenses will play us. It really did. He's he's 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: such an impact player out there, and you know, and 77 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: usually we have a Hopkins out there, the defenses usually 78 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: rolled to his side. So and then you have you know, 79 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: guys playing other guys won on one you beat, you 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: to create mismatches that way, and um, you know, by 81 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: not having him on the field certainly impacted us. It 82 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: was a huge impact, Kyle, because with Hopkins thirty points 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: per game over those ten games that he was on 84 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: the football field, seven games without d hop twenty one 85 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: points a game. You always talk about the quarterback being 86 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: the biggest difference within an offense, but for the Cardinals, 87 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: it certainly seemed like it was number ten the biggest 88 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: difference as far as what happened in those first twelve 89 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: games versus those last six games. Yeah, and the reason 90 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: for that, Um, you know, if a quarterback goes down, 91 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: you know, you a defense is still unpredictable and they're 92 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: going to do unpredictable things. But when DeAndre Hopkins is 93 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: on the field, you can predict for the most part, 94 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: what the defense is going to do and how they're 95 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: going to defend him. Because when you have an elite 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: wide receiver who's a big threat um can score on 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: any given play. The defense has to account for that 98 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: and or they're gonna get beat. And so I think 99 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: things became for the most part, pretty predictable for this offense, 100 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: pretty predictable for Kyler Murray and what he was going 101 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: to see coverage wise, what he was going to see 102 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: blitz wise, what he was going to see front wise, 103 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: and then you know, he got injured, and then de 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: Hopp got injured, and toward the end of the season 105 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: you start to see some different things from defenses, and 106 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't Things didn't look the same as they did 107 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: the first few weeks, and you weren't able to execute 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: some of the same plays you were able to execute 109 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: before he went down with the injury. So I think 110 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: that's the biggest factor is, you know, just how teams 111 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: were able to take more chances, teams were able to 112 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: get into different coverages, disguise coverages and disguise blitzes more 113 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: when d Half wasn't in the game. And now the 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: owners MJ is on those coaches that are back and 115 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: ability to try to figure out, all, right, let's hope 116 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: that we don't have the same situation in twenty twenty two, 117 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: that Hopkins is available for all seventeen games. But if not, 118 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: how do we adjust Because I'm sure there was those 119 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: conversations in those six games at the end of the 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: regular season, but and counting the postseason loss to the Rams, 121 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: but it certainly just it wasn't good enough. So now 122 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: you're going back to the drawing board, so to speak. Yeah, 123 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to someone recently on the coaching 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: staff and he said they did a nice deep dive 125 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: on why they're struggling in the second half of this season. 126 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: He believes they're going to get it corrected. But he 127 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: also mentioned injuries. And you know, we look at an 128 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: offensive line, nine different line combinations. You know, obviously that's 129 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: a unit you want to have continuity, and this team 130 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: really didn't play well from behind. They are playing catch up, 131 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: and obviously when you're pressing, you know, you go back 132 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: to that game four to three and outs. You know, 133 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: if you're a Cliff Kingsbury, you gotta get off your 134 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: call sheet. But the fact that when hop was in there, 135 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: they were eight and two. It's amazing because even when 136 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: that injury did happen. MJ. You know you and I 137 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: were talking about is there's there's no way that one 138 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: player can make that big of a difference. I was 139 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: proven wrong because what one player did make that big 140 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: of a difference without number ten on the football field, 141 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: But that can't happen again. Now. Was an anomaly this 142 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: past season for Hopkins to miss as many games as 143 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: he did. But you have to have a plan B, 144 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: in a planned C, plan D, keep going until you 145 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah, but once you're once you're in 146 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: the season, I mean it's difficult. They went out and 147 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: made a trade for zach Ertz. I'm sure they were 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: looking at some of the receivers, you know, based on 149 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: how aj Green played in the second half of the season. 150 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: So you know, that's why you have to have debt. 151 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: But I think it's really important to the Cardinals find 152 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: a number two wide receiver. And obviously you know Rondelmore, 153 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about him. His role could change 154 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. We'll see what happened with Christian Kirk. 155 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: You have Antoine Wesley's more four or five. But I 156 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: think definitely think if you want to take pressure off 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: of hop and allow him to do what he does, 158 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: you need a number two wide receiver, and whether that 159 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: is someone in free agency or someone in the upcoming draft, 160 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: but also this offseason overall, as far as who you 161 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: know that will be on the roster or Rondel Moore 162 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: and Antoine Wesley and DeAndre Hopkins, Andy Isabella, guys that 163 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: are under contract for the Arizona Cardinals heading into twenty 164 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: twenty two, the off season becomes such important parts of 165 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: what now happens for this Cardinals offense and defense as well. Kyle. 166 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: But when you look at this offense and maybe more 167 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: time together, whether that's here or somewhere else, I don't 168 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: know what the offseason is going to look like. There 169 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: have been two off seasons now in which the players 170 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: Association of push back on what is able to be 171 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: done here at the facility. Whether that happens again or not, 172 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: I have no idea, but you would hope that if 173 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen here, it's happening somewhere where these players 174 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: are getting together. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, in order to 175 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: be good at football, you have to practice football. There's 176 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: only so much you can do outside of the facility, 177 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: outside of being with your teammates, outside of coaching, that 178 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: will get to you as a team where you want 179 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: to be. And I see, you know another thing, going 180 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: back to the injuries, it's not just the lack of 181 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: offseason work. Together with these injuries, there was a lot 182 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: of practices missed by key veterans, including almost a month 183 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: in the middle of the season with Kyler Murray being 184 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: under center and running just just getting reps, getting reps 185 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: not only with DeAndre Hopkins, but getting reps with Antoine 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: Wesley and some of these younger receivers, and that affects you. 187 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: It affects your ability to make these in game adjustments 188 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: because you haven't done all these things over and over 189 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: and over. And a lot of the way these offenses work, 190 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: the receiver has to see the exact same thing as 191 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback. And we did see times throughout this past 192 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: season where there there seemed to be miscommunication on I 193 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: thought the receivers running this route and Kyler threw it 194 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: over here and nobody is there, and and so you 195 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: just you know, nothing can replace quality reps, and you know, 196 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: practice reps aren't game reps, but it does help, and 197 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: it gets everybody on the same page, everybody in the 198 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: same rhythm, and the timing has to be there. So 199 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, the the off season will help. It will 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: help Kyler Murray. I think you're going to see another 201 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: big jump for him, but it will be key that 202 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: he gets you know, some of these veterans in and 203 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: whichever help whichever, either through the draft of free agency, 204 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: they need to get into and get these reps with 205 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray so that the team can you know, can 206 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: build off of what they did, especially at the beginning 207 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: of the season this past year. Well, we heard leading 208 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: into the Super Bowl and the success that Matthew Stafford 209 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: had with Cooper Cup it wasn't only the off season 210 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: work that they had, but the work before practice began 211 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: first thing in the morning, watching film together. That was 212 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: a big talking point leading up to Super Bowl fifty six. 213 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: So the question posed to Sean Jefferson getting Kyler Murray 214 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins much like Matthew Stafford and Cooper Cup, Well, 215 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: I think number one, you know, these last two years 216 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: is pretty much to a hamper a damper on the 217 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: off season workout program. So I think now getting back 218 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: to some kind of normalcy with the off season workout 219 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: program and OTAs and stuff like that, I think that's 220 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: when all that stuff is captured in there at the 221 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: time and the importance of you know what I'm saying 222 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: that like getting the reps in and kyl im nois 223 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: when I even look at it, hop what we're doing 224 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: in that situation and everything like that, I think, but 225 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: I was having a full off season. Now I think 226 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: that will help us going forward. And it's not only 227 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: again MJ, the work here at the facility, but work 228 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: that these players do away from the facility together, because 229 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: doing the work here is not enough, as Stafford and 230 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: Cup showed this past season. Yeah, and don't forget, a 231 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff is voluntary. So you know, obviously 232 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: the NFL didn't prefer a guy who's to work out 233 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: during COVID, but a couple of guys who didn't get 234 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: quite to to Texas and last year AJ Green went 235 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: up there. So you got to hope. You know how 236 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: much time Ala Murray spends in Arizona, how much times 237 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: you spend there, And clearly, I mean you got to 238 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: think that they're going to try to get together at 239 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: some point. But keep in mind, a lot of this 240 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: stuff is voluntary. Yeah, but it's proven here that if 241 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: you do put in the work now, it will pay 242 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: off in December, January, and February. Now you get it, 243 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, so I underst I totally understand. Yes, it's voluntary, Kyle, 244 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: you know it. You know, players want their off time, 245 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: but you can't have it both ways. Yeah, it's really 246 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: hard to make vast improvements during the season once you 247 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: hit training camp. You know it's difficult to improve as 248 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: an individual or even as a team. Most of your improvements, 249 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: the way you close the gap on the teams that 250 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: finish better than you, is the work you put in 251 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: from now ntail training camp. Well, we'll see what kind 252 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: of work this team does put in here in the 253 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: off season, and specifically rondel More, what happens in year 254 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: two for the young wide receiver out of Purdue. We'll 255 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: get into that conversation as we continue here on the 256 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: card Red Sea Report presented by ZIKI. Get your seats, 257 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: any seats. This is the Arizona Cardinalals Radio Network. Murray 258 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: straight dropped back in trouble, flushed out, moving left fires 259 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: it dan left side of jump ball. It's caught on 260 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: the near sideline, but they say out of bounds. Boy, 261 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: rondel More, just a heck of a catch, man, he 262 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: was interfered with. I don't know how they didn't call 263 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: cast interference? Boy did he catch it? The wolf? The 264 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: ruling on the field has been changed to a catch. 265 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: Hould it changed it? Out? They team for ruling them 266 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: the field to a catch? What an incredible where? I 267 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: mean you got it? That's as good as it gets. 268 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: I cannot even believe what I just saw on replay. 269 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: They got some filthy dudes naked place, I mean, Rondel 270 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: Moore that catch. That is one of the sickest plays 271 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: I have seen. And we're talking about a rookie wide receiver. 272 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: Great field awareness they've passed Ron willfully talking about that 273 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: toe tap catch against the forty nine ers at home 274 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: at University of Phoenix Stadium back in week five in October, 275 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, a rookie wide receiver. Hey, in college, you 276 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: only need one foot. In the NFL, you need to 277 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: and Moore was able to get both feet and bounds 278 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: a huge play in what would be a win for 279 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals seventeen to ten. As we continue here on 280 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red Seat Report presented by a seat Geek, 281 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: get your seats in a seat Craig Raya, lukav Inebosh 282 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: and Mike Dreki talking about the young wide receiver Cardinals 283 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: draft pick and now year two for the young man. 284 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: And it was a great first season. I think there 285 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: was maybe a little bit of a wall that he hit, 286 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: but overall fourteen games played, missed three games with an 287 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: ankle injury able to come back for that wild card game. 288 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: But we saw him Kyle on special teams, and we 289 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: did see him play a lot of wide receiver, moved 290 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: around a lot in the slot. But I think this 291 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: team is excited about where Rondel Moore could be, not 292 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: just next season, but seasons to come. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, 293 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: every time he touched the ball, you could see just 294 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: the ability he had, you know, But a good part 295 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: of his contribution this offense was him getting the ball 296 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage or within a couple of 297 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: yards of the line of scrimmage, making one or two 298 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: guys miss, turning a you know, three yard catch into 299 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: a ten yard game. And I think, you know, the 300 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: thing we kept talking about throughout the season was we'd 301 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: like to see him down the field. I think what 302 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: we all envisioned, you know, I hate to make player comps, 303 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: but you envisioned a Tyreek Hill type of influence on 304 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: this offense where he can catch a five yard route 305 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: and take it to the house. But if you jump 306 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: that route, he's gonna go deep and he's going to 307 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: be a threat down the field. And I think that's 308 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: where his progression is going to go, because he shows 309 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, not maybe that quite that type of speed 310 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: of Tyreek Hill, but he shows the similar type of 311 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: abilities and the awareness and the ability to make people 312 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: miss and the ability to stick his foot in the 313 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: ground and gain yards in a hurry. So I think, 314 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: you know, even when you watched him on punt returns 315 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: throughout the season, every time he was back there, I thought, 316 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: this is the time he's gonna break one. This is 317 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: the time he's gonna break one, because he just has 318 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: that dynamic type of ability, and I think that they're 319 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: going to find a way to utilize his abilities more 320 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: this coming season. Caught the ball, ran the ball and 321 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: it was eight yards after catch, fifteenth best in the league. 322 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: Get him in open space, MJ and all of a sudden, 323 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: in a blink of an eye, he could be gone. Yeah, 324 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: nine hundred and seventy three yeards all purpose. He was 325 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: targeted sixty four times, had fifty four catches about eighty 326 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: four percent, and he did average eight point one on 327 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: and punt returns in twenty two four on kickoff return 328 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: But again, I you know, I like the eye Candy 329 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: throwing the ball to him, and like Kyle Suddy, he 330 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: puts his footing the ground he can go. And I 331 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: looked at the size Rondelmore's five seven one eighty one 332 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hills five ten eighty five, So he's a little 333 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: bit taller, but simi little weight, and so he could 334 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: be that guy in this Colonel's offense. So what is 335 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: the plan for Ron Delmore in year two? Again? Sean Jefferson, 336 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: Cardinal's wide receivers coach, last week got the big red rage. 337 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: The next step for him is talking to more downfield, 338 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: adding to his route tree. You know it's coming in 339 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: as a rookie. You know you got d Hobb, you 340 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: got Kristin Kirg, you got aj Green. So he's kind 341 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: of lost in that, you know what I'm saying about 342 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: being a rookie and everything like that. But that's one 343 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: of the things that me and ronde Hell discussed about 344 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: growing his routes were you've been able to put him 345 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: outside a little bit more where he can run some 346 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: of those routes on the outside, so his his route 347 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: tree would grow leaps and bounds this year. So and 348 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: again we've talked about how important offseason it's gonna be 349 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: off see workout and ota is going to be. That's 350 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: when the growth come, that's we're gonna take the steps 351 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: and learn how to run those routes. He's a phenomenal 352 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: route runner already, but just learning the little nuances of 353 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: plan on that outside opposed plan on the inside on 354 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: the field. That was a lot of the discussion m 355 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: J during the course of the season was Okay, how 356 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: do you get Rondell more more involved? While DeAndre Hopkins, 357 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: A J. Green, Christian Kirk, Chase Edmonds, James Conner. All right, well, 358 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: you want one player to get more involved, it's going 359 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: to become at the expense of someone else. And then 360 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: when the hop wasn't around while Rondel Moore was hurt 361 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: with an ankle injury. So kind of a double edged 362 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: sword right there. But it does I think hearing from 363 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: coach Jefferson that they would like to utilize him and 364 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: not just pigeon him in as far as a slot 365 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: receiver we could based off of his size, Yeah, I'm 366 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: looking at Cooper Cup He's six two one ninety four 367 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: and you talk about a guy that runs great routes. 368 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean he does a double move. It's really unstoppable. 369 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: And you could tell they worked together. So yeah, it's 370 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: it's where a situation worried. Sometimes it takes guys into 371 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: that second year. We see the development of Jalen Thompson, 372 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: Iron Murphy, Zach Allen. Now that's the year two to three. 373 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: But I would anticipate just from a confident standpoint, knowing 374 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: he can play in this league and he's going to 375 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 1: be a big part of the offense besides Hopkins and 376 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: hopefully Zach Hurtch's back. And I like his ability because 377 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: you brought it up Kyle as far as in the backfield, 378 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: whether it's a little handoff to where he's running, or 379 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: it's that little touch pass to where he comes across 380 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: in a jet sweep motion and it's a quick shovel 381 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: pass and all of a sudden he's coming across, gets 382 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: to the edge and then turns it upfield. Right. You know, 383 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: we just talked about a comp and obviously he's built differently. 384 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: But when you have a player that can take a 385 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: handoff and a player that can catch screen passes and 386 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: a player that can go deep. You look at Deebo Samuel. 387 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we wouldn't use him in that way, 388 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: but when you have a receiver that has the skill 389 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: set he has, you really want to utilize it. You 390 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: want to get the ball in his hands as much 391 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: as possible. And that's that's what the Niners did with 392 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: with Deebo, you know. And what I loved hearing from 393 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, he made it sound like, so a lot 394 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: of our conversations are whether Cardinal's gonna do this offseason. 395 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: AJ gre may not be back, so we need to 396 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: go out and get a number two. It sounds like 397 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: he's looking to move Rondell outside more. And what the 398 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: issue was last year was AJ Green was our number two. 399 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins went down. At that point, AJ Green wasn't 400 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: able to be the number one, be that deep threat, 401 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: be the guy that Kyler can just throw it up 402 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: to when he's in trouble. But now maybe we can 403 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: develop that number two from within our roster the guys 404 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: we know we know we have now and Rondel Moore 405 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: might be that guy. With the type of speed he 406 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: has and the ability to do just about anything on 407 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: the football field. Maybe if there is an injury, you 408 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: can adjust your game plan and maybe he can step 409 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: into more of a number one type role. When you 410 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: say number one number two, are you talking about who 411 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: Kyler is looking at, or are you talking about that 412 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: prototypical if you're a one or two, you're six ft 413 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: two hundred and ten pounds, the ability to high point 414 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: a ball, because I don't know if rondel Moore is 415 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: capable of doing that if he's covered by someone who's 416 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: five ten six feet tall, right, but he can stretch 417 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: the field. I mean, Tyreek can beat anybody over the top. 418 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just saying, yeah, it's it's both right. 419 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: Your number one is obviously your top receiver, the guy 420 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: you go to, the guy who probably catches the ball 421 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: the most, and but you know, typically number two is 422 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: also opposite of him on the other side of the field, 423 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: so that you know, you're using every blade of grass 424 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: and then you can hit other guys underneath. And I 425 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: think he has that ability at least to potentially move 426 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: into that number two receiver spot, and that would be 427 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: nice so that we don't have to, you know, go 428 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: out and spend a bunch of money on a number 429 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: two receiver, because once you try to get that number 430 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: two and free agency, typically it's going to cost you 431 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Tebow Samuel six feet two fifteen 432 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: it's a little bit bigger, but I think Christian Kirk 433 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: took took a lot of those targets away from Ron 434 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: del Moore. He was targeted one hundred and three times 435 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: seventy seven on one hundred and three seventy five, he 436 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: probably should have had over a thousand yards. He had 437 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: a few drops there, and he played in all seventeen games, 438 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: and that was the big difference from the last couple 439 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: of years. And obviously he's a free agent, so there's 440 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: no guarantee you're gonna be able to bring him back. 441 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: And if you don't have an AJ Green, you don't 442 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: have a Christian Kirk, there will be someone added, whether 443 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: that's in free agency or the draft. The question is 444 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: are you spending a lot of money or is that 445 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: money spents better set some other position. And as you said, Kyle, 446 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: you develop from within. You get rondel Moore the ability 447 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: to where he can be utilized in a number of 448 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: different ways. He's not just the outside receiver, but maybe 449 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: on this particular drive we see him in the backfield, 450 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: or on the next drive it's in the slot, or 451 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: on that same drive he's bouncing around. If he's capable 452 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: as far as the football IQ and when we hear 453 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: from him, well spoken individual, loves the game, always looking 454 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: at film and breaking down film and wanting to do more. 455 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: Maybe there is an opportunity him for him to maybe 456 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: be that guy all over the field. Yeah, I think, 457 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about and we've seen the dangers 458 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: of putting too much on a rookie's plate, right, So 459 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, while for a good part of 460 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: the season, a lot of us are wondering, why aren't 461 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: they working the ball down the field, why isn't he 462 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: running a go route or a seven route or an 463 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: eight route and getting the ball down the field, because 464 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: he has that type of speed. But you know, to 465 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: a degree, I credit the coaches for not asking too 466 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: much because he already did a lot having to learn, 467 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, how to run the ball, how to read blocks, 468 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: how to all of the gadget plays that he had. Now, 469 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: with a full offseason, you can add some of that 470 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: to his plate. And that's exactly what coach Jefferson was 471 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: talking about, was, you know, we're gonna he's gonna run 472 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: every route on the field. He's gonna learn it, and 473 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: he's going to develop into a more complete receiver because 474 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: now you have that time, you have the full off season, 475 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: and I think you're going to see a huge jump 476 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: from year one to year two with him. And I 477 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: guess we'll just have to wait and see what the 478 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals do in free agency, because all of a sudden, 479 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: it's a really deep drafted wide receiver. Now we know 480 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: that they you know, try to hit on a couple 481 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: of those guys and hasn't panned out. Hopefully more is 482 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: at Mark Quez Valve's scandaling to me, he's a really 483 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: good player. Obviously he had Aaron Rodgers only twenty seven 484 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: years old. Zay Jones is twenty six. So these guys 485 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: are more affordable than the top guys. Rondel Moore listed 486 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: at five seven, one eighty. But you heard from coach Jefferson, 487 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: runs good routes, and you run a good route, beat 488 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: your defender. Then all of a sudden you gain that 489 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: at separation with a quarterback to get you the football. 490 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: And you don't need to be six two six three 491 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: high point to football because you have that separation and 492 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: Kyle the Murray can get rondel Moore the football. We'll 493 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: see what happens coming up here in twenty twenty two. 494 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: We've hit halftime here on the Cardinals. Red Sea reports 495 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: more we'll hear from coach Van Jefferson. Excuse me, Coach 496 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson. As we continue here on the Arizona Cardinals. 497 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: Right doing network, Damie Hill takes makes the run in trouble, 498 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: gets d Taylor Jones cors was a fumball. It's picked 499 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: up by Corey Peter, hit from behind by Jones and sack. 500 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: They cannot flock fifty five. Here comes Chandler Jones. Another sack. 501 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones is abliterating Taylor Lawan and hit by Jones, 502 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: fumbles the ball hitch loose and recovered by the Cardinals. 503 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: Another sack. Chandler Jones is sport tying a career high hand. 504 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: Hill on fourth down, hit and sacked. Chandler Jones. Five 505 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: sacks on the day for fifty five. Right now, you 506 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: could not find one hair on Ryan Tanner Hill's back 507 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: because it has been thoroughly waxed by the professor who's 508 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: got the PhD in backwax and Chandler Jones with his 509 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: fifth sack. Impressive to say the least. Five sacks in 510 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: Week one Chandler Jones, however, which is five and a half. 511 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: The next fourteen games he played finished with double digit 512 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: sacks for the fifth time in six seasons with the 513 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Question is, well, there'll be a seventh or 514 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: eighth season with the Arizona Cardinals. As we walk me 515 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: back here to the Cardinals Red Seat report present to 516 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: buy a seat, geek, get your seats in a seat. 517 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: Craig Rio, Luka Vanibosh, and Mike Drecki. Yes, Chandler Jones 518 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: one of the many free agents for this Arizona Cardinals team. 519 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: An unrestricted free agent free agency begins mid March, although today, 520 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: beginning today through March eighth, teams have the ability to 521 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: tag players, place that franchise tag on a player and 522 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: then not allow them to move or test free agency. 523 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: A lot of big names out there. DeVante Adams or 524 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers, the wide receiver one of 525 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: those players that might see that franchise tag. The question 526 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: is if you do not have a Chandler Jones Mike Drecky, 527 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: what do you have as far as a pass rush 528 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: for this Cardinals team? Well, I mean that's what the 529 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: offseason is going to become. I mean, you got Marcus Golden, 530 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: you have, We'll shoot with a tender Dennis Cardick. You know, 531 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Canard's on the roster, but obviously look at his production, 532 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: maybe he's not going to be here. So you know, 533 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: in free agency, it's gonna cost you a lot of money. 534 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: Probably in the draft, Cardinals will pick in twenty third overall. Yeah, 535 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna be hard to replace. But you know, 536 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: after you know, five sacks in Week one, he kind 537 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: of disappeared. Now, he did lead the team in pressures, tackles, 538 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: are hits, forced fumbles, But again, I think the Cardinals 539 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: wanted more. If he would have put up numbers like 540 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: he did, not five sacks in one game, if he 541 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: would have been more consistent fifteen to seventeen sacks, I 542 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: think we're having a different conversation right now. It's always 543 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: how did you get to that number? I how did 544 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: you get to eleven wins? How did you get to 545 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: ten and a half sacks? When five of those happened 546 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: in Week one? Kyle, all of a sudden, Yeah, MJ's right, 547 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: you want more. The bar is raised. There's a level 548 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: of expectation ten and a half sacks that's tremendous. But 549 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: if it was one here, two here, three here, and 550 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: then then maybe some quiet period and then what kind 551 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: of sacks are they? Where they impact sacks, strip sacks 552 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: balls and you're getting that ball back to your offense. Yeah, Look, 553 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: nobody knows Chandler Jones better than the people in this building, 554 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: the people in the front office, in the in the coaches, 555 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, you know, he wasn't the typical 556 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones where you know, a typical Chandler Jones season, 557 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: it's a half a sack, it's a sack and a half, 558 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: it's a two sack, it's almost you know, it's almost 559 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: a sack every game, and this season didn't look like that. Now, 560 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: you know, Chandler did get COVID in the middle of 561 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: the season, and you know, that's one of the things 562 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, we don't really understand on the outside is 563 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: did that have an effect? Did it affect him missing time, 564 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: being away from the team, getting out of his routine, 565 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: those type of things. I'm assuming the coaches in the 566 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: front office have some of those answers. You know, you 567 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: talk about trying to replace his production, that's gonna be difficult. 568 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna be difficult to find somebody in free agency 569 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: to do that. It's gonna be difficult to draft somebody 570 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: to have the type of impact that Chandler Jones historically 571 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: has had and has the ability to do. You know, 572 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: pass rushers don't grow on trees, and Chandler Jones is 573 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: a special, special type of pass rusher. When he is going, 574 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: he's not. Look, I was a one move guy, and 575 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: if my move didn't work, I wasn't getting a sack. 576 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: I was. I was. I would get some with effort, 577 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: but I had one move. Chandler Jones has every single 578 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: pass rushing move you can imagine. You know. He can 579 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: power rush, he can speed rush, he can beat you 580 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: with hands, he can come inside, you know, And we 581 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: did talk about even through the games where Chandler Jones 582 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily show up on the stat sheet, he was 583 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: getting holding calls, he was affecting plays, so his impact 584 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: was more than even his double digit sack season. He 585 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: does have an impact, and he hasn't you know, a 586 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: lot like we talked about with DeAndre Hopkins, how the 587 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: defense they become predictable an offensive line and how they're 588 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: going to block a Chandler Jones also becomes predictable. You're 589 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: gonna need a tight end on him to give a 590 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: tackle helper. You're gonna need a running back chip to 591 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: his side, and that opens things up for everybody else 592 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: on that defensive front because they're more than likely gonna 593 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: get one on ones across that front. So, you know, 594 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of tough decisions, and a lot of 595 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: it comes down to what does this team think they 596 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: can do in free agency and what positions do they 597 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: value the most in upgrading because you know, look, if 598 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: they decide not to franchise Chandler Jones, they don't have 599 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: a shot at him in free agency. Somebody's gonna pay 600 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: him a lot of money and get him the multi 601 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: year contract. He's at the point in his career where 602 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: he doesn't want these one or two year contracts. He 603 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: wants that one last big payday on his way out 604 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm I'm not saying this is the 605 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: end of his career, but it's closer to the end 606 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: than it is the beginning. Yeah, thirty two years old. Now, 607 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, maybe because the Cardinals were trailing in those 608 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: last five games, you only had one sack in the 609 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: last five or six games in Marcus Gold, and he 610 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: had the only sack in the Rams game, and he 611 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: only had four down the stretch. So obviously, when you're 612 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: playing with the lead, he can tee off. But I 613 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: do agree with you. He may not see the stab sheet, 614 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: but he didn't get some holding penalties. But I couldn't 615 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: agree more. Somebody's gonna pay him. You know, you've seen 616 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: Dwight Ferny and John Abraham and even guys like Justin Houston. 617 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: They're up there in age, but they are more productive 618 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: and he's really a three down backer versus just coming 619 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: in a situational situation. The financial implications for Chandler Jones 620 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: and the Arizona Cardinals if Jones is tagged, and an 621 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: assist here from Joe Corey, former agent who works for 622 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,959 Speaker 1: CBS Sports. It's twenty five million dollars if Chandler Jones 623 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: is tagged, because it would be the second time the 624 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: team tagged him, which means they would pay a premium 625 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty percent of his cap number from 626 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: last season. His cap number was over twenty. Minutely he 627 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: made fifteen and a half. That was his salary, So 628 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: that is the decision that is being made, or maybe 629 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: it already has been made. If you choose to go 630 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: that route with Chandler Jones as far as tagging him, 631 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: you're going to pay him an additional ten million, then 632 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: you paid him this past season. Can that money be 633 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: spent somewhere else? Again, you only have so much and 634 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: you can't bring everyone back. Well, we're waiting for these 635 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: franti taggers to come out. What happens with Hassan Reddick. 636 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: He's only twenty seven years old and he's done it 637 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: him back to back years now, clearly you know he's 638 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: got Brian Burns there. You wonder about Matt Rules. Shoot, 639 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: you're there just based on them trying to find a quarterback. 640 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: But Reddick's only twenty seven and you know, I know 641 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals alloted to him to go test free agency 642 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: and he did it two years in a row. So 643 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: we'll just have to wait and see. But there are 644 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: some guys out there in Melvin Ingram thirty two, Harold 645 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: Landry's twenty five, that's kind of probably more twenty five, 646 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty seven year old guys. They're getting more 647 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: money more than the guys are thirty plus Again the 648 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: windows tag players is now through March eighth, and then 649 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: free agency begins the following week. AJ Green Christian Kirk 650 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: also free agents. As we look at the number that 651 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have, how many of those players come back 652 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: or at this point to those players want to see 653 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: what their market value is come March fifteenth. Sean Jefferson 654 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: last week on The Big Red Rage talks about the 655 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: number of unknowns when it comes to free agency and 656 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: the number of Cardinals free agents to be. You know, 657 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: we have some of guys that's coming up on free 658 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: agency and everything, and that scares me, you know what 659 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying. As you know this free agay thing. You know, 660 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of knows in the free agency. And 661 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: of course, you know, Christian Kirk's one of our main contributors. 662 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: He's he's there. You know, we got Chase, we got 663 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys. So um. But m I have 664 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: confidence in our GM and our owner and the whole 665 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: scouting department, in our head coach. I'm pretty sure that 666 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're not just gonna let players walk. We're not. 667 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna fight like hell for him. And I'm pretty 668 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: sure I got a lot of confidence and those guys 669 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: will get it right. Interesting to hear coach say it 670 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: scares me because this is the difference between a coach 671 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: and then the front office, because the front office knows 672 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: they have so much to spend, and the coach says, well, 673 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: I can't let good players walk out the door. I 674 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: need good players to perform so we have a chance 675 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: on Sundays. And I'm sure Coach Jefferson when he looks 676 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: at his wide receiver room, I've got plans, I've got options. 677 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, aj Green, Deandra Hopkins and then tap on 678 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: the shoulder. Yeah, Kirk went to somewhere else and aj 679 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: Green went somewhere else on us. All right, I gotta 680 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: go back to all right, let's figure it out all 681 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: over again. Yeah, that's potentially a lot of production that 682 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: could be walking out the door, you know the way 683 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: I see it. You know, a team, a front office 684 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 1: identifies who are our core players, who are the guys 685 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: we can't move on without. And a lot of those 686 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: decisions for contract extensions come prior to last season or 687 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: even during last season. At this point, you know, I 688 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: would think anybody that is a free agent, even if 689 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: they intend to come back to the Cardinal. They're going 690 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: to wait and see what their value is. You know 691 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: you're not going to more than likely, you're not going 692 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: to decrease your value hitting free agency and having you know, 693 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: thirty one other teams bid for your services. So you 694 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: know it'd be difficult to imagine in the next you know, 695 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,919 Speaker 1: before free agency starts, that we do resign Christian Kirk, 696 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: or we do resign Aj Green, even if they do 697 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: want to come back. I think that they test the 698 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: waters and see what free agency has to offer. Your 699 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: top two running backs, your number two and number three 700 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: wide receivers, your top two tight ends. Six players who 701 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: accounted for sixty five percent of the rushing yards and 702 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: seventy one percent of the passing yards. Those six players 703 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: all free agents. Yeah, and again, you can't resign everyone did. 704 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: They have to make a choice as a James Conner 705 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: or as a Chase Emmons. They have to make a decision. 706 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: I think Aj Green to me, I think Antoine Wesley, 707 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: even though it could be a four or five, I 708 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: think he could take his role. And then Christian Kirk, 709 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: I mean his first time he's going to be a 710 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: free agent. I mean, so again, I'm sure they have 711 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: a plan, and normally when you get to the NFL combined, 712 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: that's when you kind of plant the seed and find 713 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: out what they're worth. And then they have that seventy 714 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: two hour negotiating period. And so these guys are going 715 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: up in our understanding where they stand in how much 716 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: you're able to spend at certain positions. Yeah, that Monday, 717 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: second week of March, you can have discussions, I think 718 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: can become official until that Wednesday, the new league year 719 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: begins and free agency begins one o'clock Arizona time on 720 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: that March fifteenth or sixteenth, to believe it's a Wednesday, 721 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: the fifteenth. But yeah, and we'll find out. Until then, 722 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: a lot of speculation, a lot of talk, which we'll 723 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: do here on the Cardinal's Red Sea Report presented by 724 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: Ziki Get your Seats in a Seat. Check out Season 725 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: one of our Cardinals Folk Tales series on our official 726 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. Visit YouTube dot com slash as Cardinals to 727 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: get the story behind the stories from several remarkable moments 728 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: and Cardinals history. That's Cardinal's Folk Tales, available at YouTube 729 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: dot com slash Acy Cardinals. Original audio podcasts also available 730 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: by searching Cardinals Folk Tales. Wherever you get your podcasts, 731 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: we do it every Tuesday at eleven am. It's the 732 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals Red sep Report here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 733 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,760 Speaker 1: In the Victory Formation, Stafford gets the swamp and those 734 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: doing me the benches are gonna empty and the Rams 735 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: are gonna win. It rip the script right out of Hollywood. 736 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: The star started in Los Angeles Rams. All right, yet 737 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: they have won Super Bowl fifty six and traumatic coming 738 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: from behind facing Wow, I'm still not happy about it, 739 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: but hey, that's just me. Kevin Harland on Westwood One. Yes, 740 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams wins super Bowl fifty six. They 741 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: are world champions. As we continue here on the Cardinals 742 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: Red Seat Report, presented by a seat geek, get your seats, 743 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: any seats now. This is our first opportunity to hear 744 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: from Kyle Van and Bosch post Super Bowl. And for 745 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: those that follow us here every Tuesday at eleven am 746 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, you'll remember that Kyle's 747 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: got a connection or has a connection with both Matthew 748 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: Stafford and Joe Burrow. So after the results of the 749 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, I believe that people remember the story correctly 750 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: and right, you just didn't hold Joe Burrow long enough 751 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: back yet when you were in college and obviously got 752 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: him to the super Bowl, but not quite over the hump, right, right, Yeah, No, 753 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: it was a great game. You know, both offenses sputtered 754 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: at times and didn't look good. But what the Rams 755 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: were able to do so a lot of people talk about, well, 756 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: is this the new blueprint? Right you go all in 757 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,399 Speaker 1: for star players and try to win it. Um, it's 758 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: not just any star player. These are you know, potentially 759 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: the guys on this team, Their stars are you know, 760 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: potential Hall of Fame type players. And when you reach 761 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: that level, and we've talked about this with the Cardinals 762 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: in in these types of games, your best players have 763 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: to play the best football. Your your big time players 764 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: have to have their biggest games in these moments. And 765 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: that's what the Rams did in the end. I mean 766 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: you look at their stars, especially late in that fourth 767 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: quarter of the way Aaron Donald took over, the way 768 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford executed, in the way Cooper Cup took over 769 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: the game. Um, that's you know, that was the difference 770 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: in the game. And that's the type of players they 771 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: had and you don't find those type of players typically available. 772 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: Um And as far as blueprints go, m you know, 773 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: blueprint is a blueprint, but so much of it comes 774 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: down to fortune. Had Odell Beckham Junior, you know, tour 775 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: his ACL two games prior. You don't see the rams 776 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl head, you know. And that's again 777 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 1: we just circling back to what we talked about in 778 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: the first segment. You know, injuries, who they happened to 779 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: and when they happen throughout the season determined so much 780 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: about how the season ends, and your success late in 781 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 1: the seasons and success in the playoffs. Well it's interesting though, 782 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: you know two of their best players in that game 783 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 1: were draft picks, Aaron Donald and Cooper Cup. Now they 784 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: invested draft picks to Matthew Stafford. You know, I don't 785 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: think anybody had more pressure on him going into the playoffs. 786 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: And he took him thirteen years win a playoff game, 787 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: and so and just the connection with the head coach 788 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: and the wide receivers, and they didn't have Robert Woods, 789 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: so you gotta give him a ton of credit. And 790 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: that was the goal to go in and playing their 791 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: own Super Bowl. And hopefully that's the case for US 792 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: calling up in twenty twenty one, twenty two. Hopefully for 793 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: the third straight year, the host team that plays in 794 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: that stadium will be Super Bowl champions. We've seen the Buccaneers, 795 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: the Rams, and now hopefully the Airs on a Cardinal 796 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty seven. Cardinals, like all thirty two 797 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: teams and all include the Rams, they want to get 798 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: to that final game. The Bengals had a tremendous run. 799 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: No one gave them a second thought, even a first 800 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: thought back in August and September. But now what do 801 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have to do to make a Bengals size 802 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: leap forward? Eleven wins, yes, but not so many of 803 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: the win total, but an extended postseason run. Can the 804 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: Cardinals do what the Bengals just did? Ladanian Tomlinson of 805 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: the NFL Network believes the Cardinals do have that capability 806 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: in them. I'm looking at the Arizona Cardinals and here's why. 807 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: This is a team that at the beginning of last 808 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: year was one of the better teams in the National 809 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: Football League, not only you know, in their own conference, 810 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: had one of the best records in the conference. Then 811 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: what happened? Injuries? They lost DeAndre Hopkins. They lost a 812 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: lot of guys on the defensive side of the ball, 813 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts on that side of the 814 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: ball in the night of the lineup. They actually regress 815 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 1: as the season went on because of injuries. But if 816 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: we think about what they did at the beginning of 817 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: the season, this was a team that was hot. You know, 818 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: they were seeing better than the Rams at times. You know, 819 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: they seem like the best team in their division. So 820 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: I look at that and I say, this is a 821 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: team that can easily, if they stay healthy, can make 822 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl run as surprises, just like the Cincinnati 823 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 1: Bengals did this season. Goes back to what you were saying, Kyle, 824 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: what happens if a JJ Watt does not get hurt 825 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 1: when he did in Week seven? What happens if DeAndre 826 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: Hopkins does not get hurt twice and that second time 827 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: lost for the duration of the regular season and postseason. 828 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: Those are two five star players that were playing very, 829 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: very well at the time of their injuries. Yep, you know. 830 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: To me, that's the story of the season. It's one 831 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: of the stories. My confidence in this team is, particularly 832 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: with Kingsbury, is you know, he's shown tremendous humility. He 833 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: was hired, didn't have him or didn't have any pro experience, 834 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: and was able to learn on the job, and he has. 835 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: You know, our offense this year looks different than when 836 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: he first got here, and he made those type of adjustments. 837 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: You know, we beat the Rams this year, we won 838 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: after the bye, we became a phenomenal road team. And 839 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: so I think he's constantly examining what's working, what's not working, 840 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: and making the appropriate changes. And you know, I give 841 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: I give the front office credit for giving Cliff the 842 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: time to make those adjustments. And you've seen, in spite 843 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 1: of how this season ended, you've seen the progression in wins. 844 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 1: You've seen this team get better every single year. So 845 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: I'm confident that the appropriate adjustments will be made. They'll 846 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: take a good, hard, hard self examination and make the 847 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: appropriate adjustments, and this team will be able to take 848 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: that next step to not only get to the playoffs, 849 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,320 Speaker 1: but win in the playoffs and make a run. Cardinals 850 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,479 Speaker 1: answered a lot of questions this past season, winning after 851 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,040 Speaker 1: the bye, winning on the road, doing well in the 852 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: Vision four and two is outstanding. It's the best record 853 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: this team has had in the division under Kingsbury. Yet 854 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,279 Speaker 1: at the same time, MJA, there are still questions that 855 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: remain unanswered, and we won't get those questions until December 856 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: January of this upcoming season. Yeah, and it was encouraging 857 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: that you stay stopped the bleeding when they beat the Cowboys, 858 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: but losing to the Seahawks, that was that wasn't good 859 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 1: And obviously it carried over to the priests the postseason game. 860 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: But back to the drawing board. I still think this 861 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: team has a lot of talent, but they got to 862 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: continue to add more talent to the roster. How do 863 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 1: you finish? That is the big question for the Arizona 864 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals in twenty twenty two. It's not about the start, 865 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: It's about the finish. As you look at the Rams 866 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:50,360 Speaker 1: celebrate their Super Bowl fifty six championship special thanks behind 867 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: the scenes. As I will wrap up this edition of 868 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two tooth me Cardinals Read Sea Report presented 869 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: by You Get Your Seats in a Seat Special, Thanks 870 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: said your bro Cast manager and producer Jim Balmahindro, technical 871 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: director Cody Fitcher for Kleven and Bosh Mike Treki upgrag 872 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: Rio Lou We'll talk to you in one week's time 873 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report on the Arizona 874 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio Network. 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