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Speaker 1: This is Michael Badgeley and you're listening to the Chargers

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. What's up, guys? Chris arey with you on

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Speaker 1: a week nine edition of Chargers Weekly here on the

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Speaker 1: new Chargers Podcast Network. Coming up, we'll get this week's

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Speaker 1: a posing view from Green Bay, courtesy of Matt Schneidman

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Speaker 1: of The Athletic. Marcus Grant of NFL Media also stops

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Speaker 1: by with some week nine fantasy advice. But first a

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Speaker 1: Chargers Beat Writer's round Table. We recapped the week, plus

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Speaker 1: a look ahead to Chargers Packers on Sunday. All right,

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Speaker 1: Gil Manzano, Southern California News Group, Jeff Miller, La Times,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Popp for The Athletic. Another installment of the Beat

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Speaker 1: Writer's Roundtable. As we enter week nine, Chargers Packers. But

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Speaker 1: we have to rewind to Chicago. Any subplots, any off

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Speaker 1: the field subplots in Chicago, guys, you have a good time.

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Speaker 1: We went to Lumon Natis Gil and I did. We

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Speaker 1: got some deep Dish pizza, which is pizza castrole. Can

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Speaker 1: I don't particularly remember it. Luminaties was really good. I

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Speaker 1: Um Gil forced us to get a bigger pizza and

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Speaker 1: We had some beers throw away off a big slice

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Speaker 1: my guest tales from the road, that's finish and it's

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Speaker 1: been inside of the bread. Oh oh my god. Chicago, Man,

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Speaker 1: it rained all Saturday though. Yeah, that was gross. That

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Speaker 1: was the grossest weather. But honestly, Sunday was perfect, picture perfect, picture,

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Speaker 1: perfect full day in Chicago and the Chargers equ one

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Speaker 1: out against the Bears. This was a game wasn't the

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Speaker 1: exact opposite. But they caught a break. I mean, they've

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Speaker 1: been waiting to catch a break all season, Eddie Panne,

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Speaker 1: Now you gotta put it together. And it's a bit

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing It's like everyone in this building

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Speaker 1: Why wait? Try to spark it. It's consistency and that's

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Speaker 1: in the room with the defense is it's not doesn't

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Speaker 1: take a lot of imagination to envision this game coming

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Speaker 1: down to an Aaron Rodgers moment and him We've we've

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Speaker 1: heard him talk the Chargers this week about how we

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Speaker 1: can extend plays and we know what that means. He

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Speaker 1: starts running around, they can't get him on the ground.

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Speaker 1: As good as Joey Boss has been playing, if if

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Speaker 1: they can't get him on the ground, he's gonna he's

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Speaker 1: gonna stall. He's gonna and it's so hard to We've

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Speaker 1: seen Daniels right, but these guys have had a hard

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Speaker 1: time covering some of these guys. We've heard a lot

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Speaker 1: of this, these third down conversions. You've got to play tighter,

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Speaker 1: and we've got to we've got to stick to guys

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Speaker 1: more in the wrong place. A lot of that, and

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Speaker 1: when he starts running around, I could see this game

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Speaker 1: coming down to a couple of those plays that he's

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Speaker 1: he has made his entire That's how he's built his

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Speaker 1: entire career in his Hall of Fame career on making

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Speaker 1: those plays. I could see it coming down to those plays.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as a defense here, once he if

446
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Speaker 1: you can't get him on the ground, it becomes really difficult.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe the biggest key to this game is

448
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Speaker 1: which pass rush deal is gonna play better. Is gonna

449
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Speaker 1: be the Zadarius Smith press, the Smith crew who has

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Speaker 1: fifteen sacks combined, I think tops in the league for teammates,

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Speaker 1: or is it gonna be Bosa and Ingram. Bosa has

452
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Speaker 1: been on another level, and the fact that Melvin Ingram

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Speaker 1: is back, I think the energy and just what he

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Speaker 1: brings from a from a leadership standpoints big. But just

455
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Speaker 1: his presence. Again, we were doing another XS and those

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Speaker 1: segment this week on just the like he was triple

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Speaker 1: team one time that left Bosa one on one against

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Speaker 1: the tackle. That's what I said last week. I said

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Speaker 1: that exactly because you brought up mel Ingram as your

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Speaker 1: player to watch, and I said, you know, obviously the

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Speaker 1: leadership and the presence that you're talking about, but also

462
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Speaker 1: just like you have to account for him and when

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Speaker 1: those guys are rushing if he was doing that stand

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Speaker 1: up that Joey was doing, when you're rushing from the

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Speaker 1: same side the guard and is gonna have to focus

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Speaker 1: on Unmel in that situation. So Joey's gonna get a

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Speaker 1: one on one with the tackle if you're not chipping him.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I talked to Damian Square this week.

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Speaker 1: He's like, if you don't triple team Joey Bossa, he's

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Speaker 1: going to get to the quarterback. The one key though,

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Speaker 1: is Russell Russell Okung is he gonna how much is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be able to play with the calf injury.

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Speaker 1: I mean I went back and watched the tape last

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Speaker 1: week and he was outstanding in pass protection against Cleilmack

475
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Speaker 1: and Leonard Floyd. Sam Tavy and Michael Scofield also did

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Speaker 1: a great job on the right side, but just having

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Speaker 1: a left tackle there. I mean, there are multiple snaps

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Speaker 1: where Russell Okung took that took a pass usher on

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Speaker 1: one on one, whether it was Khalilamack or Leonard Floyd

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Speaker 1: and just dealt with him and gave Philip Rivers time

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Speaker 1: to throw. You know, I mentioned earlier the Mike Williams

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Speaker 1: passing in the corner of the end zone where he

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Speaker 1: almost had the touchdown. Klomack came off the edge one

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Speaker 1: on one against Russell Konge. He stood him up and

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Speaker 1: gave Philip time to deliver that ball to Mike Williams.

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Speaker 1: So if he's on the field, it's a completely different

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Speaker 1: offensive line and pass protection. Will he be able to

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Speaker 1: play A and B if he does? How long will

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Speaker 1: he be able to play in? How much? It's a

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Speaker 1: key too, all Right? We do it every week. Who

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Speaker 1: picks always running, He's always a kid, the young mind,

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Speaker 1: he's boom. I'm on it. Philip Rivers is the guy

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Speaker 1: to watch the young And here's why. Because Shane Styken

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Speaker 1: is thirty four years old, three years younger than Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 1: and he's calling his first ever NFL game. And I

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Speaker 1: don't care if you've been doing it in your head.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you've worked under a bunch of

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Speaker 1: really great offensive coaches. And this is nothing against him.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you're in them thick of things,

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Speaker 1: it changes, and you got to make quick decisions and

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Speaker 1: you have your script to plays obviously are in the game,

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Speaker 1: but later in the game, you got to make decisions,

503
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Speaker 1: big decisions with an entire fan base counting on you,

504
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Speaker 1: and that's difficult. And so I think Philip Rivers is

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Speaker 1: going to have a huge impact on how this all

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Speaker 1: comes together because he's, as Shane Stykin said earlier today,

507
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Speaker 1: maybe the best football IQ of all time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is the guy that's able to change plays at

509
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Speaker 1: the line, that's the guy who's able to read defense,

510
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Speaker 1: is point out the mic on every single play. He

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Speaker 1: gets his team in the right right protection and the

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Speaker 1: right play. I think he's going to be key and

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Speaker 1: helping Shane Psyche in transition be able to call this

514
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Speaker 1: game effectively. He's going definitely gonna be relying on Philip

515
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Speaker 1: Rivers big time. So I think his presence in there

516
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Speaker 1: is going to be enormous for this offense as they

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Speaker 1: try and transition. I thought it was interesting that Shane

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Speaker 1: Stekin so close with North Turner, and I mean, you

519
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Speaker 1: gave him his first shot in Cleveland. Yeah, but you

520
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Speaker 1: go back to North callin plays for the Super Bowl

521
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Speaker 1: champion Cowboys. I mean, that's one of the best play

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Speaker 1: callers of all time, starting with the Triplets in Dallas

523
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Speaker 1: all the way through. You know, his career obviously as

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Speaker 1: a head coach with the Chargers and the Redskins and

525
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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Not as stellar as his offensive coordinator days,

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Speaker 1: but pretty nice connection to lean on. Is your your

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Speaker 1: first week as a play caller? Before I make my pick,

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Speaker 1: I want to, you know, you know, bring up Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers mustache going up against Aaron Rodgers mustache. So I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty excited for that. But what did you think of

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Speaker 1: the phil stash? It was? It was, it was surprising.

532
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Speaker 1: I was trying to channel his inner Gardner minshew, That's

533
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Speaker 1: what I thought from or Halloween or something. But um,

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Speaker 1: it's probably the easy choice. But I'm going to Melvin Gordon.

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Speaker 1: We saw the flash a week ago with the nineteen

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Speaker 1: yard toutsound. Uh, you know, the bristess be the cutting,

537
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Speaker 1: the power, he had three guys on. I mean, he

538
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Speaker 1: got into the end zone. So a big game like this,

539
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Speaker 1: a lot of people watching, you know, show him, show

540
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Speaker 1: him who you are. You're a two time pro bowler star, right,

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Speaker 1: anybody who came who came back, who was supposed to

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Speaker 1: help this team out, help him out in a big

543
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Speaker 1: way in in a game you guys really need. I

544
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Speaker 1: feel like this this three game stretches very crucial for

545
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Speaker 1: to make or break this season. So if Melvin corn

546
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Speaker 1: has like a hundred yard game with two touchdounds and

547
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Speaker 1: help this team out the way he wanted to in Nashville,

548
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Speaker 1: you know, why not do it now? A little Melvin

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Speaker 1: Gordon nugget for our listeners. Prior to last week's game,

550
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Speaker 1: he was listening to some hardcore rap while he probably

551
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Speaker 1: did his pregame routine with his Wisconsin visor at last

552
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Speaker 1: week switched to some softer, jazzy type music. Scores a

553
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Speaker 1: nineteen yard touchdown. I have to check in with him tomorrow,

554
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Speaker 1: but I'll see what music he's gonna listen to you

555
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Speaker 1: before the game. And this is extremely important information that

556
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Speaker 1: genre could dictate what happens. He said he was he

557
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Speaker 1: was listening to rap. It was too hardcore. He was

558
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Speaker 1: getting too hyped up, when with something a little softer,

559
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Speaker 1: a little more vibe. Nineteen yard touchdown. Obviously correlation and

560
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Speaker 1: causation there, stats mind blown, mind blown Miller? What we

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Speaker 1: got follow that? Follow that, I am gonna go with

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Speaker 1: my on your iPod. But oh yeah, WHOA, Sorry, we

563
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Speaker 1: almost we almost got through it. And that was that

564
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Speaker 1: was you were You were teet up pretty good there. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna stick in the backfield. I think

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Speaker 1: I think we're onto something. Austin Eckler. I think we

567
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Speaker 1: got a new uh new guy calling plays. I think

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Speaker 1: they're are gonna they know as much as everybody, as

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Speaker 1: much as well as anybody else does that they he

570
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Speaker 1: was not used enough last week. I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: see more of Austin early and I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: try to get him going. And I think, uh, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm very confident the fact that there he's going to

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Speaker 1: touch the ball more than five times this week. So

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Speaker 1: I'll go with Austin and having a big game at

576
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Speaker 1: the mortgage on that over you'd think right touches you,

577
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Speaker 1: you would think they'd be pretty safe. But you know,

578
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Speaker 1: we we thought some other things were pretty safe with

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Speaker 1: this team, and we sell that went let's just go

580
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Speaker 1: clean sweep on offense, Mike Williams, maybe this is it.

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Speaker 1: It's week nine. Get a touchdown maybe two, make this

582
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Speaker 1: offense a little bit more balanced and try to get

583
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Speaker 1: a win against these Packers. You're gonna need all of

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Speaker 1: your weapons. And Matt Steiman, who covers the Packers for

585
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Speaker 1: the athletic guy, Yeah, Matt, Matt said that, uh, Hunter,

586
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Speaker 1: Henry's gonna have a big day because the Packers have

587
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Speaker 1: had a lot of struggles with the tight end. So

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Speaker 1: I look at Hunter, but I do look at Mike

589
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Speaker 1: and those splash plays that he makes every five or

590
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Speaker 1: six series. Maybe a little bit more consistent this Sunday

591
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Speaker 1: against the Packers. We'll see. Yeah, I think hunters DoD.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been phenomenal since he's come back and

593
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Speaker 1: also has been open a lot, you know, And that

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Speaker 1: was the one puzzling thing is why weren't they going

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Speaker 1: to him more? And why weren't you know, even last week.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, it took him a while to get

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Speaker 1: him involved. Like the targets, Yeah, they weren't for a

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Speaker 1: team that wasn't moving the ball at all. That I

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Speaker 1: was surprised how long it took a couple of targets

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Speaker 1: at him that miss. But like he's the type of

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Speaker 1: guy that like just feed him, run him on steam

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Speaker 1: routs and feed him because he's open all the time

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Speaker 1: over routs he's open, he gets open he's got strong hands.

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Speaker 1: I think it could be due for a big game,

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Speaker 1: for sure. We all went on offense. I think that's

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Speaker 1: telling right Aaron Rodgers on the other side, I think

607
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Speaker 1: this could be a high scoring game. So all right, guys,

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing again? Hey, Man, it's great

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624
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Speaker 1: last Sunday night. Aaron Rodgers was fantastic three hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns. But Aaron Jones has been quite the story

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Speaker 1: this season. Man, two hundred and twenty six total yards,

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Speaker 1: a pair of touchdowns, and arrowhead. Who's the more dangerous

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Speaker 1: Aaron at this point? Is it Rogers or Jones? It's

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Speaker 1: always got to be Rogers. I think. I think Aaron

631
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Speaker 1: Jones has been maybe the biggest breakout player, surprised, whatever

632
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Speaker 1: you want to call it, in the entire league. But

633
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Speaker 1: I think Rogers is always the most dangerous, just because

634
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Speaker 1: you've seen what he's done with He hasn't has his

635
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Speaker 1: best wide receiver for the past four games, and they've

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Speaker 1: per game in that span without Davantae Adams. And they

638
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: don't exactly have great depth that wide receiver. But what

639
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 1: Rodgers has been able to do with that group making

640
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: a couple of undrafted wide receivers look good, a fifth rounder,

641
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: a thirty two year old tight end. He's thrown his

642
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: running backs. I think Aaron Rodgers has thrust himself back

643
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: into the MBP discussion, albeit against not the greatest defenses Chiefs, Raiders, Lions, Cowboys.

644
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: So obviously these next couple of weeks will test that

645
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: serie a little bit further. But I would have to

646
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: go with Rogers. This Matt Laflour offense. What's unique about

647
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: it in terms of Rodgers and how it correlates to

648
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 1: what Aaron Rodgers was doing with Mike McCarthy. How is

649
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: it different? Yeah, Well, the main thing is, as you

650
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: alluded to, it involves the running backs in the passing

651
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: game a lot more, and Aaron Jones has far eclipsed

652
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: his receiving numbers from twenty four games under Mike McCarthy

653
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: in his first eight games under Matt Lafloor. There was

654
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: a big emphasis put on using running backs outside the

655
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: tackles in the receiver game, not just Jones, but Jamal

656
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: Williams as well. They talked that up preseason. Beginning of

657
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: this season, we didn't really see it that much, and

658
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, a couple of weeks ago,

659
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones against Dallas and then the past couple of

660
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: weeks yet receiving touchdown against the Raiders. At two receiving

661
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: touchdowns yesterday, now leads the NFL and receiving touchdowns has

662
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: three in the past four weeks. Had won his first

663
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: twenty four games of his career. So I think that

664
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: would be the biggest thing, just getting those running backs

665
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: involved in the receiving game, and then also just allowing

666
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: Rogers to operate within the pocket. We know Rogers is

667
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: arguably the best of all time at operating off schedule

668
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: and making plays, you know, outside the tackles, if you

669
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: want to say that when plays break down. But Mike

670
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: McCarthy would purposely practice off schedule plays and purposely practice

671
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: plays breaking down. Mount la Floyer doesn't do that. If

672
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: a play breaks down, so be it. But it operates

673
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: a lot more on Rogers inside the pocket. And I

674
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: think that has been good him And you said it.

675
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: Davante Adams hasn't even been in the lineup the last

676
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: four games. What does he mean to this offense? And

677
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: how much more explosive is it with Adams A lot

678
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: more explosive, I mean before he got injured. So he

679
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: got injured Week four with about ten minutes left in

680
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter against the Eagles after a long catch

681
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: and run went down turf toe his right big toe.

682
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: He had a career high one hundred and eighty receiving

683
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: yards up to that point. And then you already saw

684
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: you know what his absence meant, because after his absence,

685
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: the Packers ran ten plays inside the Eagles or eight

686
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: plays inside the Eagles ten yard line in the final

687
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: ten minutes. They didn't score once. Adams is their best

688
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: red zone threat, led the NFL in red zone touchdowns

689
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: last year, and that was their only lost that game.

690
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: Jones and some others have helped compensate for that, but

691
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: it's just another guy to take the focus away from

692
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: all these other guys. Adams is one of the best

693
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage, one of the best route

694
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: runners in the NFL, probably a top five receiver, So

695
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: he just really opens things up for everyone else. And

696
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: I think we actually just got done watching practice and

697
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: he seems to be running full speed routes for the

698
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: first time in a little over a month. So if

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Speaker 1: I had to guess, I say he plays this Sunday

700
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: for the first time since Week four. You know, I

701
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: tell you. Philip Rivers versus Aaron Rodgers of course that's

702
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: a marquee quarterback matchup. But we talked about Davanta Adams

703
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen. Those guys maybe one two in terms

704
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: of just pure route running in the NFL. Man, absolutely yeah,

705
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: I think Keenan Allen is a phenomenal route runner. You

706
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: put them right up there with the DeAndre Hopkins, the

707
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: Julio Jones of the league. I would definitely put Keenan

708
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: Allen in the top five, right there with Adams, and

709
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: that'll be a great matchup to watch. And I'm interested

710
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: to see if they shadow Adams if he plays with

711
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: the former Packer and Casey Hayward. I think that would

712
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: be a great matchup too. That's right, and Casey, I know,

713
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: excited to play his former team and reunite with Rogers

714
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: on the field in Los Angeles. Let's get into this

715
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: quarterback matchup. The last time these two teams played, Philip

716
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: Rivers actually had a career high in completions, attempts and

717
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: passing yards. I think five hundred and three passing yards.

718
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: When these two guys get together, man, it's one of

719
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: those things where you may not see it again. This

720
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: could be the last time we see Rivers versus Rogers. Yeah,

721
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: I think you're definitely going to see a lot of

722
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: offense in this game. And while Rivers might not put

723
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: up those career highs again, he'll definitely have his numbers.

724
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: This Packers past defense has taken a gift off from

725
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: their first three games of the season. They haven't been

726
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: as good, so I definitely think with guys like Hunter Henry,

727
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: I'll say that Packers have had some serious trouble guarding

728
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: tight ends this year. Zach Ertz, Travis Kelsey, Darren Waller,

729
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: and I think Henry is going to have a big day.

730
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: I think Keenan Allen can have a big day. Their

731
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: past defense has really struggled, so I would expect some

732
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: similars and a nice little shootout, if you will. But

733
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to bet against Aaron Rodgers in a shootout.

734
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: But if there's anyone that can stack up with him,

735
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers has to be in those few guys that can.

736
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about this defense with Mike Petton and you

737
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: got the Smith brothers in Preston and Zadarius, who I

738
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: think had two sacks last week against the Chiefs. What's

739
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: been the biggest difference in the defense. It seems like

740
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: this is more of a team this year in that

741
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: it's not just reliant on Rogers getting things done. They're

742
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: really counting on all three phases. Yeah, the pass rush

743
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: I think has been better. I'll start with that, because

744
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: the Packers have the most sacks among any two teammates

745
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: of any duo in the NFL, if that makes sense.

746
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: You know, Zadarius has eight, Preston has seven. Right now,

747
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: both new Packers big free agent acquisitions that they signed

748
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: to really big money and at the time people didn't

749
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: know if they would be worth it, but has been

750
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: and not just you know, on the field, but the

751
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: leadership they've rung in the locker room. You know, team

752
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: had voted Zadarius to captain. Preston is a big presidence

753
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: in that locker room as well. But I would say

754
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: it starts there. Those first three games of the season,

755
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: they were really good against albeit Trubisky Cousins when he

756
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: was struggling in Joe Flacco. The only real like threats

757
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks they've played are Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz,

758
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: I would say, and Kirk Cousins, but he was kind

759
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: of in a function, so Rivers will be a good

760
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: test for them. Their secondary in their linebacking Cory isn't great,

761
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: so it's really going to have to be up to

762
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: that pass rush to disrupt Philip Rivers and that Chargers

763
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: offensive line. What are the Packers saying about coming to

764
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles to face this Chargers team? Obviously they beat

765
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: the Packers rivals in the Bears off that miss field

766
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: goal by Eddie Pinero on Sunday. What's the pack saying

767
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: about coming to West Yeah, so we'll get to talk

768
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: to the players for the first time here in a

769
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: couple of minutes about that. But just talking to La floor,

770
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: it'll be they're heading out on Friday, a little day early,

771
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: probably to adjust adjust to the time change. But I mean, listen,

772
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: you know this, Everyone knows this. It will probably be

773
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: a lot more Packers fans there just because they travel

774
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: so well. But as Anthony Lynn told us today, you know,

775
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: you don't play the fans, you play the team that

776
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: you're playing. So I think it'll be interesting to see

777
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: how the Packers adjust to that environment. The first of

778
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: two trips to California in the next couple of games,

779
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: they got the forty nine ers there, So this will

780
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: be the Packers first trip out West this year. I'm

781
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: interested to see kind of how they adjust to that

782
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: time change and whether that extra day out there gives

783
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: them any help. Matt, give us a few players that

784
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: you've been oppressed with on this Packers team that maybe

785
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: Chargers fans don't know about, Maybe some under the radar

786
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: guys that you think could have an impact in Week nine. Yeah,

787
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: I would say, let's see. I'll go first, Elton Jenkins.

788
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: He's their rookie left guard, and I know, you know,

789
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: people don't really watch left guards when they watch games,

790
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: but they took them with a pretty high pick in

791
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: the second round this year. He filled in starting Week

792
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: two after their original starting left guard Lane Taylor went

793
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: down with a season ending injury. He's been really good.

794
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: He's been one of the best rookies in the league.

795
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: I would say left guards obviously don't get a lot

796
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: of recognition, and he'll be key to getting that run

797
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: game going against the Chargers front that I still think

798
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: is one of the best in the league. So I

799
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: would say Jenkins, and then Darnell Savage. You know, I

800
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: think I wouldn't say he's drawing Derwin James comparisons, but

801
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: they traded up in the first round to take on

802
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: the safetyet of Maryland. He's missed the last two games,

803
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: came back against the Chiefs this Sunday night. He's a really,

804
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: really hard hitting safety and if anyone to compare him too,

805
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: I think it might be James Obviously not quite to

806
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: his level yet, and I know James is injured, but

807
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: a really hard hitting safety that I think fans will

808
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: enjoy watching regardless of what's eve they're rooting for. Let's

809
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: go back to Jenkins and really just a Packers offensive

810
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: life for a minute with Bosa in Ingram. Now, Melvin

811
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Ingram was out for three games. He came back against

812
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: the Bears, and we just did an X as a

813
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: nose segment with Daniel Jeremiah, just showcasing how much better

814
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is. If you can even say that with

815
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram on the field, how do you think they

816
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: combat this one two punch of Bosa and Ingram. It's

817
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. And you know, the Packers have one

818
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: of the best tackle duos in the league, and Brian

819
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Bulaga and David Buctieri, two veterans. Blaga kind of nicked

820
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: up his hand against the Chiefs, so it'll be interesting

821
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: because he said in the locker rooms hold some other reporters,

822
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: not myself, that he wouldn't wear a club over it.

823
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he was out there practicing today. So we'll

824
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: see what he can do this week. They're gonna have

825
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: to throw some double teams at them. Their running backs

826
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: have been passed blocking well, so they're going to probably

827
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: try a little bit of that too. But I guarantee

828
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: you they're going to get their fair share of sacks.

829
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that's probably the best pass

830
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: rushing duo in the league, and there's only so much

831
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: you can do to limit them because you can't really

832
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: stop them entirely. Yeah, Rogers, he was sacked with five

833
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: times against the Chiefs. Met against the Chiefs. I believe

834
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: it was four or five. Yeah, I'd have to check that.

835
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: But the Packers oh line hadn't let up more than

836
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: two sacks in a game since Week one, and then

837
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: they slipped up a little bit against the Chiefs. So

838
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: a little week right now, and definitely both in Ingram

839
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: are not two guys you want to see after that. Man,

840
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: final thing for you, man, what do you think is

841
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: going to decide this game. Obviously, the Packers are rolling Chargers.

842
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: They need this to kind of stay in the hunt

843
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: there in the AFC. What do you think is going

844
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: to decide it? I honestly, like I said, I think

845
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be a shootout. I think it's going

846
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: to come down to the clutch quarterback play in the

847
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And this might annoy your audience, but and

848
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: this isn't even just because I watched him practice every day.

849
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm taking Aaron Rodgers over anyone if if it comes

850
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: down to a shootout in the fourth quarter. I mean,

851
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: we saw it a little bit last week against the Chiefs.

852
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: And that's not me saying Philip Rivers doesn't have that

853
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: clutching him Like I said, he's If I had to

854
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: pick anyone other than Rogers, Rivers might be one of

855
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: those guys. So I think it'll come down to whichever

856
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: quarterback can make that one clutch throw in the fourth quarter.

857
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: Because I think this game will be thirty thirty somewhere

858
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: in that range for both teams. What's interesting to a

859
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: new play caller and Shane Steiken for the Chargers. So

860
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: that's kind of the unknown going into week nine is

861
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: how is the running game versus the past? The game

862
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,439
Speaker 1: is going to be more of a balance this week

863
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: or are they gonna have to air it out like

864
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: they've had the past few weeks. Yeah, for sure, I'm

865
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: definitely interested to see how that changes things for them,

866
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: if at all. Awesome stuff. We look forward to seeing

867
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: you in Los Angeles. Man, thanks so much for the time.

868
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: Awesome Christ Thanks see you this weekend. All right, A

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883
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: nine fantasy talk with my guy, Marcus Grant, NFL Media. Marcus,

884
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: you're everywhere on NFL network. Man, how you hanging in,

885
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: oh Man? And we're cruising along right, We're till week

886
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: nine so and through to the fantasy regular season. We

887
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: got more behind us than we do in front of

888
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: us now, no doubt. Yeah, we're almost at the playoffs here.

889
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: We're turning the corner here. You know what, Marcus, we

890
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: say this every season, this is the craziest fantasy year ever?

891
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: Is it actually true? This year? It's been a weird year.

892
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: And we were talking about this in the office the

893
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: other day. You know, this has been a year where

894
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, normally you can find a few really good

895
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: gyms off the waiver wire, even this late into the season,

896
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: that hasn't happened really, aside from that week where you know,

897
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: maybe you've got a Gardner Minshoe, maybe there's a Terry

898
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: McLaurin out there on the waiver wire, it's been thinned

899
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: so generally that the team you drafted a sort of

900
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: the team you've had to roll with, unless you can

901
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: be smart and make some trades. Injuries have really kind

902
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: of sapped things, and you guys sort of underperforming have

903
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: kind of killed it. So in that respect, it's been

904
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot more difficult of a year than

905
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: any of us anticipated. All I want to get into

906
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: surprises and disappointments, Let's just start with the disappointments, because

907
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: I think to your point, when you draft somebody with

908
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: a with a first or second round pick and you're

909
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: relying on them to give you a quality production week

910
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: and a week out and it doesn't happen and you

911
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: don't have anything on the waiver wire, it kind of stuck. Yeah,

912
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean a couple names come to mind,

913
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: especially at the wide receiver position, one of them being

914
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, Juju Smith Schuster. You know, it's hard to

915
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: say that it's completely his fault. You certainly didn't expect

916
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: that Ben Roethlisberger was going to have the arm injury

917
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: that was going to take him out for the season,

918
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: So that's really sort of complicated things. And you've got

919
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, second and third string quarterbacks playing. I would

920
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: say that the Cleveland Browns in general have been another

921
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: one of them. And I know that on the field,

922
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: they have been a disappointment, but certainly in fantasy we

923
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: expected more out of Odell Beckham junior. We expected more

924
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: out of Baker Mayfield. Nick Chubb has kind of been

925
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: the only guy in that offense that has performed up

926
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: to expectations, but the other folks there in Cleveland have

927
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: really caused some frustrations. How surprised are you that the

928
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: Browns are this big of a disappointment, especially with Baker

929
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: and having O'Dell there and Jarvis Landry. I think fantasy

930
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: owners came into twenty nineteen expecting a lot more than

931
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: what they're getting. Yeah, I mean definitely, I think people

932
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: expected more production. I know I had this sneaking suspicion,

933
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: and I mentioned this early on our podcast, our Fantasy podcast,

934
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: just before the season started. The one thing that concerned

935
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: me about the Browns was the fact that you're taking

936
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: a guy in Freddie Kitchen who looked early in the

937
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: last season he was the running backs coach who was

938
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: elevated to offensive coordinator and then elevated to the head

939
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: coaching position, And I thought my big concern with it was,

940
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's a different world and you're no longer

941
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: just passed, and with scratching up plays and coming up

942
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: with a creative offense. Now all of a sudden, you

943
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: are more of a CEO of this whole this whole team.

944
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: You've got to not just focus on the offense. You've

945
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: got to worry about what the defense is doing, what

946
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: the special teams are doing. You've got to start managing personalities.

947
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: And so I thought that there was always a possibility

948
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: that things could sort of go sideways as Kitchens was

949
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: sort of trying to learn on the job, and I

950
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: think we've sort of seen that, and the fact that

951
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: this is a team that has been incredibly undisciplined when

952
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: it comes to penalties. You've got guys now who are

953
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: frustrated about not getting a football enough, and they're just

954
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: really trying to figure things out. And I think that's

955
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: always sort of the dangers of not just the first

956
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: time head coach, but the first time head coach that

957
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: really in this past coaching experience was sort of pass

958
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: was just managing one small aspect of a team. Marcus,

959
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: let's get into surprises. Who surprised you through the first

960
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: day weeks? Well, I think one of the biggest surprises

961
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: is right there in your backyard, and it's often Eckler,

962
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, we you know, people drafted him expecting that

963
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: he would be a nice play, especially, you know, not

964
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: knowing with Melvin Gordon situation was going to be. I

965
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: don't think anybody expected that through the first months, six

966
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: weeks or so, that Austin Eckler was going to be

967
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: a top three fantasy running back. But he's played fantastic

968
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: all season long, and even now that Melvin is back,

969
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: Eckler is still finding plenty of opportunities to get to football.

970
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: He has been just outstanding all year long. So he

971
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: might be number one on my list, following closely by

972
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, who nobody really knew what to expect of

973
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: this guy. You get Nick Foles, who's hurt early in

974
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: the first game of the season. Minshew has stepped in

975
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: and been amazing to the point that now it's a

976
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: legitimate debate about whether Nick Foles gets his job back

977
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: once he's healthy. So you have credit the magic mustache

978
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: down there in Jacksonville. They're doing a really big thing. Yeah, man,

979
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: Gardner getting it done. Let's go back to Austin real quick, though,

980
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: because when you go into a season and you don't

981
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: have Melvin Gordon. Austin Eckler five receiving touchdowns is three

982
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns and even in limited touches now with Melvin Beck,

983
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: He's still making the most of his opportunities. I think

984
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: now with a new play caller, there's a little bit

985
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: of an unknown, but it's a must that you got

986
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: to get to football into Austin Eckler's hands moving forward,

987
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, you know, and I think you know the

988
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: good in the bat of it. They know Mike Williams

989
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: has sort of been inconsistent and that's been frustrating in

990
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: a lot of respects, but that has also opened up

991
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: I think more opportunities for Austin. I know they're trying

992
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: to move him all over the formation. He's lined up,

993
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: you know, as a receiver or a tied in on

994
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: about the quarter of his snap so far this year,

995
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: so there's still finding ways to get him to football.

996
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: It also means that they can put both Austin and

997
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: Melbourne on the field at the same time. So you know,

998
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: I know people are wondering whether or not Austin Ecklers

999
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: can keep this up. I think they can continue to

1000
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: be productive as you mentioned even with limited touches, just

1001
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: because every time he gets the ball in his hands,

1002
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: he has the potential to turn it into a big play.

1003
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: He and Keenan Allen both have fifty one receptions on

1004
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: the year. And the Chargers, they've obviously had trouble running

1005
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: the football. They only have four rushing touchdowns. Austin has

1006
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: three of those four. We'll get to this matchup with

1007
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: the Packers here in a second, but just some streaming

1008
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: options for Week nine. You've got four teams on a buy,

1009
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: including the Saints and the Rams. You got Falcons and

1010
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Bengals as well. But let's say quarterback. Let's say you

1011
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: have a Drew Breese or you know, a Matt Ryan

1012
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: who obviously got hurt a week prior. Are there any

1013
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: options for Week nine that you're high on? Absolutely? Derek

1014
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Carr is one of them who you know very quietly

1015
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: is having a good season there and you know it

1016
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: doesn't always translate to fantasy, but he's been incredibly efficient.

1017
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: He's protecting the football and this week he's got a

1018
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: lion secondary that that is very vulnerable. I mean, you've

1019
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: got Darius Slay there, but beyond that, you can kind

1020
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: of pick apart that that defensive backfield there, So I

1021
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: like Derek car a lot. The other one is Josh Allen.

1022
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: I know the weather might not be great in DC

1023
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: this weekend where they're playing in Washington, but he's a

1024
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: guy who has He's done pretty well so far this season,

1025
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: and he has what we call those fantasy cheek codes,

1026
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: like he can get out and he can run the football,

1027
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: pick up those hidden yards on the ground, and that's

1028
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: always likes. Especially I can get you a rushing touchdown,

1029
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: which you know kind of adds as an extra bonus.

1030
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: So those are the two guys that I would really

1031
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: try to gravitate towards this week. All right, running back

1032
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: obviously Alvin Era has been hurt. But if you're in

1033
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: a pinch at running back, the Rams are on a

1034
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: by no Tie Gurley, what are you doing here? Yeah?

1035
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if Tavis Murray is still

1036
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: out there in a lot of leagues. He might not be,

1037
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: but if he is, go grab him because I think

1038
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: there's still a role for him, even you know, with

1039
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: a healthy Camara in that offense. The other name that

1040
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: might surprise some people is Mark Walton down in Miami,

1041
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: especially now that they have traded Kenyan Drape to Arizona,

1042
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: that backfield completely opens up. I don't. I think they

1043
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: are sort of done with the Kaylin balage experiment down

1044
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: there with the Dolphin that that didn't quite work out.

1045
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: So we saw it a fact. On Monday night against

1046
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers, Mark Walton got a heavy workload, and I

1047
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: think this week, especially against the Jets, it's a pretty

1048
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: positive matchup the wide receiver. When Cooper cup is on

1049
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: a buy and Michael Thomas and you have one of

1050
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: those guys in your lineup, you're probably searching for some options.

1051
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: Who do you got? Yeah, you know, I mentioned Derek

1052
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: Carr is a quarterback streaming option. Tyrell Williams I think

1053
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: kind of corresponds with that. He scored a touchdown in

1054
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: every game he's played so far this year and getting

1055
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the end zone looks from car there.

1056
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: Another name that's sort of crept up in the last

1057
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: couple of weeks is Chris Connelly down in Jacksonville and

1058
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: the guy who kind of flashed some talent with during

1059
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: his time with the Chiefs, never quite you know, kind

1060
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: of hooked on, especially when you get you know, Tyree

1061
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: Hill and Sammy Watkins showing up there. But the last

1062
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks he's made some big plays down there

1063
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, and it looked like he and Gardner

1064
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: Minshew seemed to have a little bit of a rapport

1065
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,399
Speaker 1: going all right. Tight end in defense, Mark's defense. If

1066
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: you have the Saints, you're probably searching for somebody this week.

1067
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: And then from a tight end perspective, Hooper down in Atlanta,

1068
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: he's had a good year. Any options at tight end

1069
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,479
Speaker 1: of defense this week, tight end has been maybe the

1070
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: biggest headache I think for everybody in santasy this year. Yes,

1071
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: and it has been. It has been awful, But I

1072
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: would say that the one name to keep in mind,

1073
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: Chris Herndon is trying to work his way back with

1074
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: the Jets. Keeps him kind of in your back pocket

1075
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 1: in case he plays. If he doesn't, then Ryan Griffon

1076
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 1: is the guy this week going against the Miami Dolphins. Um,

1077
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, look it is. It's sort of been a

1078
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: crapshoot trying to trying to use that trip in spot.

1079
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: So that was gonna be tough defensively though, And trust me,

1080
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm a guy who has the same in a couple

1081
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: of weeks, so I've been sort of looking around. The

1082
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns this week looked like a very good option

1083
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: with the Broncos being forced to start Brandon Allen right now.

1084
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: So the Browns are available in a lot of leagues.

1085
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: You can stream them. The Broncos might be available in

1086
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: some of your leagues as well, because they're on the

1087
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: other side of that game, and Baker Mayfield has struggled

1088
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: turning the ball over this year. So the Broncos, if

1089
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: they're out there, another good pick for you. There you go.

1090
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: Let's get into this Packers Chargers matchup. I just said

1091
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: Match Schneidman of the Athletic who covers the Packers. He

1092
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: thinks this is going to be a shootout, and if

1093
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: that's the case, it could be some fantasy gold. What

1094
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: do you see in this game, Marcus, Yeah, I do

1095
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a pretty high scoring game.

1096
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like what we've seen the last

1097
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: week or two from Aaron Rodgers is the truth that

1098
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: he sort of figured some things out in his Natlas

1099
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: floor offense, and this Packer offense is really starting to roll,

1100
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: especially they've used Aaron Jones as a Swiss Army knife

1101
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: and he's been great as both a runner and a receiver.

1102
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Staying goes with Jamal Williams. So the Packers are gonna

1103
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: move to football. They're going to score some points, but

1104
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: they will give up some points too. You know, they struggle,

1105
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: especially in that secondary. So I think this is a

1106
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 1: week where you can look at Philip Rivers. I think

1107
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: Tena Allen Hopefully, if he's healthy and ready to go,

1108
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: we'll be able to be productive this week. Hunter Henry

1109
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: as well, So I think I think I think he's right.

1110
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: I think this is a game that could be one.

1111
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be just a lot of fun

1112
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: to watch from a football perspective, but I think for

1113
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: a fantasy perspective as well, there's a lot of production

1114
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: to be had. You mentioned that the headache at tight

1115
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: end Hunter Henry last three games back eighteen catches, two

1116
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: hundred and forty four yards, two touchdowns. If you have

1117
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: him on your roster, he's probably a must start each

1118
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: and every week at this point. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean,

1119
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: this is a guy that we were super excited about

1120
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: coming into the season. It really sucks that he had

1121
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: the injury early in the year. It had to miss

1122
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: some games, but now that he's back, he's one of

1123
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: those guys in a very thin position in fantasy that

1124
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: you feel like you can put him in your lineup

1125
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: and sort of set it and forget it and expect

1126
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: that he's going to get his targets every week. Melvin Gordon,

1127
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: I have to ask you about him because the last

1128
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: four weeks fewer than forty yards as a team rushing

1129
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: the football for the Chargers. I think people are still

1130
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: waiting for him to pop and have a Melvin Gordon

1131
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: game similar to what we've seen the last couple of years.

1132
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: What are you dealing with Melvin Gordon in Week nine? Yeah,

1133
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: he has become just sort of a conundrum, right because

1134
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, the potential is there for him to go

1135
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: out and have a big week, but it it just

1136
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: really hasn't happened yet. So I think a lot of folks,

1137
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of folks in fantasy

1138
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: trying to figure out if they can maybe package him

1139
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: in a trade. But I think you kind of put

1140
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 1: him in your line up as a flex and hope

1141
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: that at some point they get things going. And I

1142
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: think this is where you have a little bit of

1143
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: optimism now that they're a new play caller there that

1144
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: maybe they do some things for sort of unlocked Melvin Gorge,

1145
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: because we know what he can be at his best.

1146
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: You know that he is, you know, the potential to

1147
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: be a top five fantasy running back. It just hasn't happened.

1148
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, we can be a stubborn,

1149
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: frustrating bunch sometimes as fantasy managers, and I think there's

1150
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people who are just holding on waiting

1151
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: for that big game to come. Marcus, as I said

1152
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: at the top, you do so much a film network.

1153
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: Promote everything you guys got going on, because it's a

1154
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: lot from podcast to two shows, you got everything. Yeah, man,

1155
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: we're doing everything. You know. First off that there's a

1156
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: Fantasy or NFL Fantasy Line that's on NFL Network Monday

1157
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: through Friday. You can see that. It's at three o'clock

1158
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: Pacific time. And then we've got our Fantasy Football podcast

1159
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: that comes out three times a week now Monday, Wednesday

1160
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: and Friday, so you can catch all of those. And

1161
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: then we're doing a new thing this year called NFL

1162
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: Fantasy League One, which is a bunch of US analysts

1163
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: that work here at the network, along with some celebrities

1164
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: playing in a big fantasy league. And you can find

1165
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: that at NFL dot com or if you have the

1166
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy app, if Airs Live and man, that's uh

1167
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: pretty much on game day from Monday or Sunday, Monday

1168
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: and Thursday, you can find that show there. So, yeah,

1169
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: we find in more places than the law allows. So

1170
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: but come come find me in some form or others. Wait,

1171
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: is that fantasy? Is that Eric at Tamposy? Is she

1172
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: one of the celebrities you guys that you guys, she's

1173
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: technically one of the analysts here. But yeah, the celebrities,

1174
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: We've got Toody and Brandy Rhodes from aw wrestling. We've

1175
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: got Kane Brown, the country singer. We've got Candice Patton,

1176
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: who if you watch the Flash you know her at

1177
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: Irish West. So it's a fun group that we've got

1178
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: this year. Awesome man, Well, Marcus, always great catching up

1179
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: with you, man. I wish you the best of luck

1180
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: down the stretch and hopefully we'll talk to you here soon. Hey,

1181
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 1: good times, Chris, take care all right, guys, that's gonna

1182
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: do it for us. A big thanks to Marcus grant

1183
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: match Sneiman and our beat Riders for joining me, Thanks

1184
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: so much for listening. Enjoy the game this Sunday and

1185
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: until next time. I'm Chris Harry