WEBVTT - JASON GEORGE - Stirring The Pot 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.280 Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke. 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.720 I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.040 special guests at Jason George is in the building. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:10.120 What's good? 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:11.360 How are you good? 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:12.479 How are you feeling good? 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:14.400 I'm very thankful that you took time out of your 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.239 busy schedule to come spend time with me. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:18.279 I wanted too. Plus, you know we're gonna eat. 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:19.000 We're gonna eat. 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:19.880 He's always good. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.880 Eating is always good. So we are eating a broke dish. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.959 What are you gonna have me eating today? 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.320 This is one of the simplest things that actually required 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.400 some cooking, because I think when you first opportunity to 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:32.479 come here first came up, I thought about what did 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.320 I eat while I was broke. My first thought was spaghetti. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:38.760 I ate spaghetti six nights a week for three years 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.800 when I was studying acting. As a result, I did 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.960 not touch spaghetti like you can ask anybody knows me. 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.760 It was not a joke like I did not mess 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.839 with can we cuss? I didn't fuck with spaghetti for years, 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.240 like seven years before I touched spaghetti again, And even 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.440 to this day, the only way I messed with pasta 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.880 is if like some chef got super jiggy with it, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:00.680 like they got you know, you gotta throw like seafood 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.240 in there. It's got to be like I need a 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.800 like cord on blue chef to like get it never 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:22.120 gets cooked in my house, my family. When I was 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.280 in my mom's house when we were really broken we 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.479 had to sell the house that we were living in. Uh, 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.319 you know, she would this. She had this. She found 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.560 this perfect pizza that you just threw in the oven. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:35.120 That in the can to meade of no potato soup. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.679 That should throw a little extra stuff in. No, not 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.240 the way my mom did it. It was genuinely, genuinely 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.319 one of my favorite is one of the most emotionally favorite. Like, 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.280 so you still that I will mess with my mama 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.520 does it. Yeah, the mom does it because potato. It's 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:49.920 just it's just a simple pizza you just throw in 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.640 the oven like that. And those were like two simple 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.640 there's like no cooking. This is taco soup, which is 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.240 which is they call it our friends called the taco 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.520 soup is really kind of you can burn it down 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.520 to almost a chili. Yeah, but chili is most people's 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:05.480 chili is too serious. So if you say it's a chili, 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.720 then they're ready to fight you. You say to the taco soup, 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.320 they leave you alone because this is not deep enough 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.280 to be called a chili. This is so simple even 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:13.120 an idiot could cook it. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.400 Like me, yea dude. It was cheap and affordable, and 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.359 I'm curious. I've never had this. I always get excited 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:20.840 when we have a dish on the show that we 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.480 haven't had, So when I did see spaghetti coming later, 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.000 I was like, yeah, no, this is going to be 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.400 the dish, So go ahead and tell me what ingredients 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:31.200 you'll be having in this chaco soup. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.160 This is real simple taco soup is. You can do 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:37.400 ground beef, but I prefer with turkey, right right. I 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.240 would eat red meat. I'll tear a steik up, but 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.240 I can't do it every night. I when black Man 0:02:41.240 --> 0:02:43.400 from the South blood pressures everything like that, you try 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.120 to take care of yourself. I'm an actor. I got 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.400 to take care of theself. Right, So ground turkey is 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.280 the base, and then you got all your dry things 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.720 that you're throwing. Kidney beans. You can also do black beans, 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.960 but I prefer kidney beans because we black beans are 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.400 like something by themselves, not something to throw into something else. Corn, 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:01.200 uh and hominy. 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.320 And then and that was my first time seeing how many. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.200 By the way I had to google it. I was like, 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:05.920 what is homony? 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:07.680 Know? 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:09.840 What is that a bean? It's just white beans. It 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.560 looks like on the can it looks like corn. 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.519 How many is in that? I think it's it's somewhere between. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.639 Like I'm not even sure hundred how many. It's like 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.040 I always think of it like with like coliflower and 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:21.360 things like that is the way to think of it, 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.560 like you know, but uh, but somebody's gonna follow you 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.440 and explain better than me. I just know it's good. Look, 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.120 I just think with mama cooked okay, okay, And then 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.240 you got dice tomatoes, some tomato paste, and then a 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.040 little bit of a chicken broth, a whole can of 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.720 chicken broth. That's the secret sauce because people would do 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:39.440 it with water. When we figured out chicken broth, pot 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.520 of a whole other level of a little bit of 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.320 flavor to it. And then and then for some little 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:45.200 bit of extra spice, you can get some sausa. 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.000 Okay, do you put the sausa in it? 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:48.840 You can put the sausa in it. We would put 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.320 the saucea in it a little bit, just to like 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.120 really up and you can just throw it on top 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:52.720 if you wanted to. 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:57.000 That way is a taste, okay, Chef Jason, George. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.680 Jeez, Like I said, this is like the thing about this, 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:01.440 like you said, affordable. You buy the cans, you cut 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.440 the cans open, throw them in and it's got to 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.440 keep you full. And the other best part is that 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.200 it tastes better the next day or the third day. 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.400 So like you eat something that night, get full, keep 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.480 moving tomorrow, because it's all about the leftovers. It's all 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:17.479 about the leftovers. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.680 Well, get in the kitchen, Jason, all go ahead, don't 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.160 burn yourself. I'm guessing you're gonna start with the brown 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:23.680 another meat. 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:25.920 That's what's up, all right, look at me. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.160 While you start cooking for the both of us. Oh, 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:32.839 you have a lib on. You're lived up. Well when 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.719 you come to eat, you're gonna get on this mic. 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.640 But now that you're in the kitchen, take me back 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.480 to what was going on during this particular meal. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.440 This was something that we started eating when I first 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.720 got to Los Angeles. I came out here with the job. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.000 I came out here to do a show called Sunset Beach. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.440 I like literally got the job out of a contest 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.400 in them all, So it was like a fluke, so 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.960 literally it was like, no, it was I'm not even 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.760 telling you, Like, they didn't plan on getting anybody out 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.920 of the contest. They thought they'd give somebody like four 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.400 lines and send them home. But the day they were 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.080 doing the contest here in Los Angeles was the same 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.880 day they were casting the one black guy and the 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.040 one black woman that were on the show. And so 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.039 Sherry Salmon and I auditioned together and you know, got 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:15.520 like and things went forward. I mean I was in 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.400 the contest that was a separate thing from the real audition. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.360 She was in the real auditions. I was in the contest. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.560 Where were you at when you got into context. 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:26.560 I was living in Philadelphia. I was an Eagles fan 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:27.920 long before I lived in Philly, and then I got 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.359 to live in Philly. I went to grad school at 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.040 Temple University. The Act of Time Sizemore had come out 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.240 of there just a few years ahead of us, So 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.520 I was like really interested in and also I really 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.279 wanted to be Look, the teaching acting was my plan 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.880 as a backup to acting. Oh wow, so I really wanted. 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.960 My mom was a teacher. My mom taught learning disabled 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.159 kids all growed up. So the idea was, get the 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.440 degree so you can teach acting, but get the skills 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:53.680 so you can actually be an actor. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:54.520 Wow. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.480 And I knew if I actually went to school in 0:05:56.560 --> 0:06:00.799 New York, I'd never graduate. Why because I be running streets, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.720 know thyself, know thyself. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:09.960 I was like on that day, as it was elaborate, elaborate, please. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.240 I barely graduated Temple. As it was somewhere between my 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.160 first and second year, this show came up that was 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.960 a for the Travel Channel, a traveling show where like 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.040 you go all around the world and do cool stuff 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.880 with indigenous people's and just talk about it on camera. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.520 I was like, dope. But A it wasn't real acting 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.279 as I saw it. It was hosting, which is cool, but 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:29.039 it's a different thing. 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:29.440 Yeah. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.400 And two, I wouldn't finished the program, wouldn't have gotten degree, 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.200 so it'd have been just it would have been just 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:37.160 a job as opposed to a career move, a cool job. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:38.719 If I finished up the program that had been great 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:40.960 traveling all around the world, to be dope. I think 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.280 I've never checked it out. I think Bradley Cooper ended 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.200 up doing it. It was one of the like five 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:46.719 people that had doing it or whatever like that. I 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:47.960 know he did a show to like that, and I 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.839 was like, he was from Philly, so I was like, 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.400 probably the same thing. So that could have derailed me 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.960 between my first and second year of grad school. And 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.520 then I got the job on Sunset Beach out of 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.480 the contest in the mall about six months before I 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:01.359 was supposed to graduate. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.480 Oh so you still got derailed a little bit. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.080 I yes, yes I did. But and this is where 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.240 I got lucky. God is good. I had the program. 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:11.400 They give you the skills, so you graduate with a 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:15.760 lot more credits than you actually need for the school's 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.880 baseline definition of you have a Master of Fine Arts, 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.360 right like you need sixty and I would have graduated 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:23.960 like seventy five if I finished the program. I had 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.560 fifty seven. Wow, right at the time. So they said, yo, 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:33.560 go work, come back, give a thesis talk and will 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.400 count that as an independent study. That be your last 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.760 three credits you graduate. So that all worked out, and 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.160 I literally my brothers will never stop teasing me because 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.200 I was at the Daytime Daytime Emmy Awards or Soap 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.200 Opera Digist Awards on Friday night, and then drove down 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.440 to my graduation the next morning. Got there late. So 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.160 I'm sitting in the stands with my brothers watching Bill 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.160 Cosby because he was mister Temple then giving the speech, 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.600 and I'm signing up autographs and my brothers, if you know, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.520 my brothers just give me stink eye and laughing. They're like, 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:08.360 you are ridiculous. Everything about this, everything about you is ridiculous. 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.840 But it worked out, so that was the upside. But then, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:18.320 but that whole time, my wife then girlfriend came out 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.400 and she got a job at Wittier College, so I 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:21.840 moved out. She came all the way to the West 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:23.720 Coast for me, so I said, let me go to 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.000 Whittier for her, which is practically a different country because 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.360 it's yeah, pretty far from it's out there. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:30.800 It's hilarious at a different country. She moved all the 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.560 way across the country for you. What you know, the traffic, 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.400 you know how the traffic is my middle ground? 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:39.160 Your wife? 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, are your then girlfriend? 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.040 That's my girl. But we are married during the so 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.320 but we knew like we got to keep it lean 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.199 because I want to try and do more. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:52.680 Yeah. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.720 Yeah, So we were like prepped. We were living renting 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.440 an apartment. We were keeping it tight so that like 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.439 as soon as I finished my three year track them 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.280 out of here. And as it was, you know, I 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.920 decided to leave the show and not renew my contract. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.640 Everybody else renewed their contract and got like back pay. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.720 They got like paid for the last three months they 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.480 already shot, and they said we'll backdate the contract this, 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:15.960 so people getting money for doing nothing. I was like, man, 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.920 then I make a mistake. And then and then the 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.320 show got canceled, didn't get renewed for another year. And 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.320 I'd been knocking on doors, getting meeting everybody and casting 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.560 offices and everything like that being out there and I 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.200 hit the so I was running and they got caught 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:31.760 flat footed. 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:32.160 Yeah. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.120 So that was the part that felt good, Like, Okay, yeah, 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.400 always always, you know, always worked a plan. You know 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:40.520 what I mean, what are you really after? Yeah, you know, 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:41.920 you're trying to make a career. You're just trying to 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:43.840 do a job. And I had to keep remembering that, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.560 and that's always been our philosophy. You know, got away 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.839 from it a couple of times. You know, you buy 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:51.600 a house eventually, you know, and and next thing, you know, 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:54.959 we went back to eating taco soup when I bought 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.839 this house. And the day we opened escrow was the 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.920 day that the show I was on Guy canceled. 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.959 Now, this is a back check to you buying a house. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.040 Wasn't it hard to buy a house as an actor? 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:06.599 Was it? 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.040 What was your girl? What was your girl with girlfriend 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.880 or wife at the time you guys married when you bought. 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.080 The house, or by the time we bought the house 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:13.560 we were married. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:17.480 Yes, okay, So so I guess joint income they're going 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:17.920 off of. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.400 Right, Yeah, I mean, look, I'm putting money in the 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:24.640 bank and they're looking at the beauty with being an actor. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.360 You could show them a contract and that would count 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:29.120 for a little something. But and this is the benefit 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.800 back in the day, this is right before this is 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.839 a few years before the housing bus. So they had 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.240 what they call they now called them, actually called them 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.920 this then liar loans, because part of the whole reason 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.120 why that housing bus happened was because the whole industry 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.000 was just letting people climb whatever. 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:51.800 People make two dollars by hand, Like, what are learning. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.360 For a living? I don't know. Oh did you see 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.880 hear you say you earned three million dollars a year? Sure, 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.559 let's go with that. Yeah. I remember I worked in. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.400 A building where someone was doing loans and people are 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.080 showing up in drugs in their houses because like, why 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.120 were you buying a house that was way above your budget? 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:06.240 Anyways, they were letting. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.839 And they were doing those interest only loans. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.240 Too, exactly. There was sending people in for failure. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:11.319 Yeah, yeah, set. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.439 People up for play. But we got lucky, well and lucky, 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.280 and that we kept going. But that was our first house, 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.000 which we lived in for several years, and then we 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.040 bought the house we live in now. And this is 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:24.520 years ago, and you know, two years in we had 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:27.360 to put it on the market because I was working 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.640 but not at the level that could afford this house. Yea, yeah, 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.520 and I was scrambling, you know, and we were like 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.920 finding everywhere to save money. So suddenly all the like 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.120 you know, fancy meals and eating out all the time 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:37.920 and everything like that, all that went away again. And 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:39.520 you know, taco soup has never left. 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:41.720 It's spaghetti popping, it's no. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.680 Spaghetti never pops up. It mentioned spaghetti. Don't bring spaghetti 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:46.520 back up in here again. 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.839 I'm playing you guys so serious. To it was like, 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:50.000 don't you dare? 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.280 No, My kids loved spaghetti. 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.800 But your spaghetti air was the sixty seven years you 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:56.480 were doing spaghetti? What where were you doing? 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.960 And that was when I was in grad school. That 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.280 was when I was, you know, eating it six days 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:03.559 a week, and I didn't matter how much pasta you ate. 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.400 You couldn't you know. I was running all day, you know. 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.600 When I was in grad school was eight in the 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:13.760 morning to five at night. At school, six to ten 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.720 o'clock in rehearsals, and then you had to rehearse like 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.599 five scenes that you had for the classes going on 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:21.679 the next days. And then on Saturdays we rehearsing to 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.760 play from ten to six. Oh wow, So Sunday was 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.080 the day you got to do some laundry and maybe relax. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:28.800 And that was the day we would splurge and like 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:30.400 eat something besides pasta. 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:32.080 Okay, And when you say we, who's we? 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.040 Me? My best friend? He was my roommate. And when 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.439 I got to grad school, it seemed like everybody was crazy. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.120 And I found one other dude who wasn't crazy, and 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.199 I was like, that's my boy, and he's been adopted 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.120 by my family, Like he's friends with my younger brother, 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:46.480 even outside of me, Like. 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:51.120 You know, he's like real fan, Fan's faan, he's real one. 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.040 So you buy this house in two years and you 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.240 get the we're riding the roller coaster way, take me 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:57.600 through that. 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.600 It was look, I I'd spend my entire career thinking 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.080 in terms of like, you know, my mantra was, if 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:06.200 I wanted safety and security, I'd have been a lawyer. 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.600 Because my mentor was like a Supreme Court justice in Virginia. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.440 His dad was a vice person my high school, one 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:13.720 of the best educators Avenue got to know him. I 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:14.720 thought I was going to be a lawyer, and then 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.280 I took an acting class and then all with the 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.680 ship and so there was instability all over the place, right, 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.120 but so, but my mantra was always like I was 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.440 on the prize career moves not jobs. Right, you know, 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:27.840 if you want safety, security, you could have been a lawyer. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.439 So don't make the safe. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.720 Move that gets my don't make the safe moved. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.440 Don't make the safe move. Make the smart move. Which 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.240 sometimes takes risk, right, but that means you got to 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.240 keep your you got to keep your life small. 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:42.040 Don't make this safe move right. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.760 Don't just play it safe, play it smart. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.120 Sometimes the safe movies smartest highs. 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.360 I'm not saying it's always high risk, but sometimes it is. Right. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.320 The safe move is just stay exactly where you are 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:55.600 and don't do nothing right, in which case you don't advance. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.760 So sometimes the safe move is to stay still sometimes, 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.200 I mean, sometimes a smart move is also the safe move. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.480 You know, you're at the cliff, don't move, stay still 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.200 for a second, right, you know, Sometimes a smart move 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.720 is not the safe move. You gotta take the risk. Yeah, 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.680 And that was the deal. So in order to be 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.920 able to do that, we always try to live below 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.040 our means. Lost that for a bit with kids because 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.720 my wife teaches at universities, and she's a poet and 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:26.200 fiction writer and teachers at university. So we wanted to 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:27.720 make sure that they had the best education we could 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.680 get them, which there were some private schools that we 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.760 fell in love with that had not only the education 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.400 but also the diversity that we wanted. That's what I was, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.480 you know, I mean, And we were you know, look, 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.840 I mean she's Indians. So we were like, you know, 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.480 it was the school was so dope that like our 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.200 kid wasn't even only black an Indian kid in his class. 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.640 Like they both my kids graduating in their classes were 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.480 fifty or more kids of color. So I was like, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.960 we loved that school. And we were like, I will, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:56.920 I will pay for the nose. I will sell my 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:58.560 house before I pull you out of school because I 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.400 want you to have that experience all the way through. 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.200 And you know, we were but we bought that second 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:06.360 house and we were scrambling for a bit. So it's 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.000 always about trying to keep it lean. Now I've been 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.280 on you know, Grays, you know brought me on. I 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.640 recurred on Grays as a guest star for years and 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:16.960 then they brought me on as a series regular and 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.200 then spun me off like a year and a half. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.720 Two years later on to Station nineteen. So now we're chilled. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.240 Are you feeling like stability? Comfort? 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.880 More than I've ever had my career Because I look 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:30.520 at my account and I know that if I wanted to, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:32.840 I could cut a check tomorrow and pay off what 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:35.800 I owe in my house. Oh and that's the thing. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.080 That's a great feeling. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.840 And look I am for going from a kid who 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:44.960 didn't know anything about financial literacy, who didn't know you know. 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.760 I remember we saw a condo for one hundred and 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:50.800 eighty thousand dollars when we were living in an apartment 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.240 that the rent was like two thousand something, and I 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.960 was like, the mortgage on this condo would be less 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.880 then less when I'm paying rent. Yes, got the down payment. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:05.160 I didn't understand any of that. I didn't get finances. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:06.760 I didn't understand any of it. So by the time, 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.320 so now my whole thing is I'm like going from 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.320 that to now knowing. Okay, let's break down the numbers 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.840 and if I needed to worst case scenario, we could 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.360 eliminate the big bills that if you don't do that 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.840 because it's better to that's them. YadA YadA, YadA. Okay, 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.440 but I'm like, you know, so now I'm still keeping 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.320 it tight. Like somebody I was, we're doing some renovations 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:26.600 of our house and I goes, well, this isn't gonna 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:27.840 be your last house, is it. I look at me 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.640 and said, wy not. I was like, you're expecting me 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.960 to go buy the bigger house because I can. Yeah, 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:34.880 I said, me staying in this house that my kids 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.160 grew up in, and we have an emotional connection to that. 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:38.640 I know I can kind of check them out and 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:43.040 be good on that is financial and therefore mental security. 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.840 I'm good. Fuck all, y'all. I'm gonna do what I 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.800 enjoy once my kids are out of school. I'm gonna 0:16:47.800 --> 0:16:50.440 do what I'm excited about, not what I gotta do, 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.360 because that's the you know, that's the lesson. You know, 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.840 my mom sold the house that I was sixteen. My 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:58.400 mom had to sell the house that we grew up in. 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.400 When we put our house in the market and we 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.040