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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Witt, and today we have very

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Speaker 1: special guests at Jason George is in the building.

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Speaker 2: What's good?

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Speaker 1: How are you good?

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Speaker 2: How are you feeling good?

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Speaker 1: I'm very thankful that you took time out of your

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Speaker 1: busy schedule to come spend time with me.

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Speaker 2: I wanted too. Plus, you know we're gonna eat.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna eat.

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Speaker 2: He's always good.

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Speaker 1: Eating is always good. So we are eating a broke dish.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna have me eating today?

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Speaker 2: This is one of the simplest things that actually required

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Speaker 2: some cooking, because I think when you first opportunity to

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Speaker 2: come here first came up, I thought about what did

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Speaker 2: I eat while I was broke. My first thought was spaghetti.

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Speaker 2: I ate spaghetti six nights a week for three years

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Speaker 2: when I was studying acting. As a result, I did

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Speaker 2: not touch spaghetti like you can ask anybody knows me.

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Speaker 2: It was not a joke like I did not mess

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Speaker 2: with can we cuss? I didn't fuck with spaghetti for years,

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Speaker 2: like seven years before I touched spaghetti again, And even

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Speaker 2: to this day, the only way I messed with pasta

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Speaker 2: is if like some chef got super jiggy with it,

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Speaker 2: like they got you know, you gotta throw like seafood

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Speaker 2: in there. It's got to be like I need a

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Speaker 2: like cord on blue chef to like get it never

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Speaker 2: gets cooked in my house, my family. When I was

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Speaker 2: in my mom's house when we were really broken we

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Speaker 2: had to sell the house that we were living in. Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, she would this. She had this. She found

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Speaker 2: this perfect pizza that you just threw in the oven.

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Speaker 2: That in the can to meade of no potato soup.

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Speaker 2: That should throw a little extra stuff in. No, not

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Speaker 2: the way my mom did it. It was genuinely, genuinely

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Speaker 2: one of my favorite is one of the most emotionally favorite. Like,

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Speaker 2: so you still that I will mess with my mama

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Speaker 2: does it. Yeah, the mom does it because potato. It's

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Speaker 2: just it's just a simple pizza you just throw in

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Speaker 2: the oven like that. And those were like two simple

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Speaker 2: there's like no cooking. This is taco soup, which is

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Speaker 2: which is they call it our friends called the taco

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Speaker 2: soup is really kind of you can burn it down

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Speaker 2: to almost a chili. Yeah, but chili is most people's

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Speaker 2: chili is too serious. So if you say it's a chili,

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Speaker 2: then they're ready to fight you. You say to the taco soup,

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Speaker 2: they leave you alone because this is not deep enough

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Speaker 2: to be called a chili. This is so simple even

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Speaker 2: an idiot could cook it.

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Speaker 1: Like me, yea dude. It was cheap and affordable, and

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. I've never had this. I always get excited

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Speaker 1: when we have a dish on the show that we

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Speaker 1: haven't had, So when I did see spaghetti coming later,

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, no, this is going to be

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Speaker 1: the dish, So go ahead and tell me what ingredients

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Speaker 1: you'll be having in this chaco soup.

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Speaker 2: This is real simple taco soup is. You can do

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Speaker 2: ground beef, but I prefer with turkey, right right. I

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Speaker 2: would eat red meat. I'll tear a steik up, but

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Speaker 2: I can't do it every night. I when black Man

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Speaker 2: from the South blood pressures everything like that, you try

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Speaker 2: to take care of yourself. I'm an actor. I got

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Speaker 2: to take care of theself. Right, So ground turkey is

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Speaker 2: the base, and then you got all your dry things

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Speaker 2: that you're throwing. Kidney beans. You can also do black beans,

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Speaker 2: but I prefer kidney beans because we black beans are

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Speaker 2: like something by themselves, not something to throw into something else. Corn,

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Speaker 2: uh and hominy.

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Speaker 1: And then and that was my first time seeing how many.

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Speaker 1: By the way I had to google it. I was like,

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Speaker 1: what is homony?

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Speaker 2: Know?

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Speaker 1: What is that a bean? It's just white beans. It

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Speaker 1: looks like on the can it looks like corn.

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Speaker 2: How many is in that? I think it's it's somewhere between.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not even sure hundred how many. It's like

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Speaker 2: I always think of it like with like coliflower and

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Speaker 2: things like that is the way to think of it,

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Speaker 2: like you know, but uh, but somebody's gonna follow you

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Speaker 2: and explain better than me. I just know it's good. Look,

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Speaker 2: I just think with mama cooked okay, okay, And then

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Speaker 2: you got dice tomatoes, some tomato paste, and then a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a chicken broth, a whole can of

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Speaker 2: chicken broth. That's the secret sauce because people would do

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Speaker 2: of a whole other level of a little bit of

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Speaker 2: bit of extra spice, you can get some sausa.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you put the sausa in it?

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Speaker 2: You can put the sausa in it. We would put

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Speaker 2: the saucea in it a little bit, just to like

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Speaker 2: really up and you can just throw it on top

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Speaker 2: if you wanted to.

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Speaker 1: That way is a taste, okay, Chef Jason, George.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, Like I said, this is like the thing about this,

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Speaker 2: like you said, affordable. You buy the cans, you cut

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Speaker 2: keep you full. And the other best part is that

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Speaker 2: it tastes better the next day or the third day.

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Speaker 2: So like you eat something that night, get full, keep

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Speaker 2: moving tomorrow, because it's all about the leftovers. It's all

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Speaker 2: about the leftovers.

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Speaker 1: Well, get in the kitchen, Jason, all go ahead, don't

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Speaker 1: burn yourself. I'm guessing you're gonna start with the brown

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Speaker 1: another meat.

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Speaker 2: That's what's up, all right, look at me.

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Speaker 1: While you start cooking for the both of us. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you have a lib on. You're lived up. Well when

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Speaker 1: you come to eat, you're gonna get on this mic.

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Speaker 1: But now that you're in the kitchen, take me back

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Speaker 1: to what was going on during this particular meal.

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Speaker 2: This was something that we started eating when I first

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Speaker 2: got to Los Angeles. I came out here with the job.

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Speaker 2: I came out here to do a show called Sunset Beach.

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Speaker 2: I like literally got the job out of a contest

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Speaker 2: in them all, So it was like a fluke, so

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Speaker 2: literally it was like, no, it was I'm not even

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Speaker 2: telling you, Like, they didn't plan on getting anybody out

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Speaker 2: of the contest. They thought they'd give somebody like four

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Speaker 2: doing the contest here in Los Angeles was the same

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Speaker 2: day they were casting the one black guy and the

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Speaker 2: one black woman that were on the show. And so

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Speaker 2: Sherry Salmon and I auditioned together and you know, got

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Speaker 2: like and things went forward. I mean I was in

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Speaker 2: the contest that was a separate thing from the real audition.

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Speaker 2: She was in the real auditions. I was in the contest.

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Speaker 1: Where were you at when you got into context.

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Speaker 2: I was living in Philadelphia. I was an Eagles fan

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Speaker 2: long before I lived in Philly, and then I got

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Speaker 2: to live in Philly. I went to grad school at

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Speaker 2: Temple University. The Act of Time Sizemore had come out

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Speaker 2: of there just a few years ahead of us, So

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Speaker 2: I was like really interested in and also I really

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Speaker 2: wanted to be Look, the teaching acting was my plan

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Speaker 2: as a backup to acting. Oh wow, so I really wanted.

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Speaker 2: My mom was a teacher. My mom taught learning disabled

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Speaker 2: kids all growed up. So the idea was, get the

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Speaker 2: degree so you can teach acting, but get the skills

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Speaker 2: so you can actually be an actor.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And I knew if I actually went to school in

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Speaker 2: New York, I'd never graduate. Why because I be running streets,

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Speaker 2: know thyself, know thyself.

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Speaker 1: I was like on that day, as it was elaborate, elaborate, please.

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Speaker 2: I barely graduated Temple. As it was somewhere between my

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Speaker 2: first and second year, this show came up that was

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Speaker 2: a for the Travel Channel, a traveling show where like

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Speaker 2: I was like, dope. But A it wasn't real acting

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Speaker 2: as I saw it. It was hosting, which is cool, but

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Speaker 2: it's a different thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And two, I wouldn't finished the program, wouldn't have gotten degree,

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Speaker 2: so it'd have been just it would have been just

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Speaker 2: a job as opposed to a career move, a cool job.

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Speaker 2: If I finished up the program that had been great

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Speaker 2: traveling all around the world, to be dope. I think

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Speaker 2: I've never checked it out. I think Bradley Cooper ended

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Speaker 2: probably the same thing. So that could have derailed me

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Speaker 2: the contest in the mall about six months before I

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Speaker 1: Oh so you still got derailed a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I yes, yes I did. But and this is where

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Speaker 2: I got lucky. God is good. I had the program.

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Speaker 2: They give you the skills, so you graduate with a

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Speaker 2: right like you need sixty and I would have graduated

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Speaker 2: like seventy five if I finished the program. I had

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting in the stands with my brothers watching Bill

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Speaker 2: Cosby because he was mister Temple then giving the speech,

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Speaker 2: and I'm signing up autographs and my brothers, if you know,

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Speaker 2: my brothers just give me stink eye and laughing. They're like,

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Speaker 2: you are ridiculous. Everything about this, everything about you is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But it worked out, so that was the upside. But then,

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Speaker 2: but that whole time, my wife then girlfriend came out

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Speaker 2: and she got a job at Wittier College, so I

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Speaker 2: moved out. She came all the way to the West

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Speaker 2: Whittier for her, which is practically a different country because

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Speaker 2: it's yeah, pretty far from it's out there.

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Speaker 1: It's hilarious at a different country. She moved all the

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Speaker 1: way across the country for you. What you know, the traffic,

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Speaker 1: you know how the traffic is my middle ground?

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Speaker 2: Your wife?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, are your then girlfriend?

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Speaker 2: That's my girl. But we are married during the so

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Speaker 2: but we knew like we got to keep it lean

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Speaker 2: because I want to try and do more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So we were like prepped. We were living renting

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Speaker 2: as soon as I finished my three year track them

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Speaker 2: decided to leave the show and not renew my contract.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else renewed their contract and got like back pay.

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Speaker 2: They got like paid for the last three months they

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Speaker 2: already shot, and they said we'll backdate the contract this,

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Speaker 2: so people getting money for doing nothing. I was like, man,

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Speaker 2: because I was like, you know, you know, I gotten

436
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Speaker 2: this house and provided for my family a full on

437
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Speaker 2: middle class life, and I did not want to take

438
00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,639
Speaker 2: that away from them. Yeah, and that's that that's that feeling.

439
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,520
Speaker 2: And I was like, I hadn't felt like that since

440
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,919
Speaker 2: when my mom came to us and said, I have

441
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,400
Speaker 2: to sell this house. And my mom is my mom

442
00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,399
Speaker 2: is one of the most incredible individuals you're ever going

443
00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,879
Speaker 2: to meet. Shirley George. She she came to us and

444
00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,000
Speaker 2: she said, I'm sixteen years old. She comes to the house,

445
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,200
Speaker 2: calls a family meeting. We're not that fan. We didn't

446
00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:52,760
Speaker 2: do family meeting. That wasn't a thing. But she came

447
00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,919
Speaker 2: and she said yo. I didn't say yo. I'm saying yo.

448
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

449
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,680
Speaker 2: She goes, I have to we have to sell the house.

450
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Speaker 2: We have to move. What constraints do I have? And

451
00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 2: my older brother was in college at the time, he

452
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 2: was at Norfolk State, and he was like, he's a

453
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,160
Speaker 2: computer guy and an artist and he was at school.

454
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,920
Speaker 2: He's like, as long as we're in Norfolk, Hampton Rose,

455
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 2: you know, I can drive to school. I'm here, I'm good.

456
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 2: Wherever you want to go, I'm good. And my little

457
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,760
Speaker 2: brother's like, I'll make friends wherever I am and we

458
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 2: can come back over here visit my old friends anytime.

459
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm in my junior year of high school.

460
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 2: You I was like, yeah, you know what's coming. I

461
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,320
Speaker 2: was like, I'm I'm probably going to be captain of

462
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,919
Speaker 2: the track team next year. I'll probably be you know.

463
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 2: I ended up being vice president of student Like. I

464
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:42,000
Speaker 2: was like, my shot at scholarships is kind of depending

465
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,760
Speaker 2: on me being here because I got anywhere else. I

466
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 2: start over again and I'm a new kid at senior year.

467
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 2: What does that mean? So I was like so, and

468
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 2: I was like, and I need to get some scholarships.

469
00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,720
Speaker 2: So so my mom moved into a condo that she

470
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,000
Speaker 2: did not want to live in in order to keep

471
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Speaker 2: me in school. She is the most incredible woman and

472
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 2: s single parent household. My pop is a good man.

473
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,639
Speaker 2: He was not the greatest father, and he was bad.

474
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,959
Speaker 2: And you know, we've become friends again now, but at

475
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 2: the time it was just my and all growing up,

476
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 2: it was just my He's been a good grandfather, but

477
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: my made that move for us, for me, and you

478
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 2: have never seen a person with us to ask more

479
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 2: to like find the guidance guidance. The guidance counselors in

480
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: school did nothing for me. The guidance council's secretary, this

481
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 2: is Verostik is my It was my angel. She passed

482
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,880
Speaker 2: away a few years ago. She became She saw how

483
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 2: much I was pulling. Any scholarship that looked like I

484
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 2: even had like a snowball's chance of getting at and

485
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 2: she was like, let me help you out. So she

486
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: started looking for me. She'd stopped me in the hall.

487
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: She we got you're not supposed to have access to

488
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,879
Speaker 2: the references that people wrote for you. I managed to

489
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 2: get hold of the references so that we could if

490
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: we found a scholarship that was due today or tomorrow,

491
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: we could print off the stuff and put together the packet,

492
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 2: nothing flat, and I type something up, change up this

493
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: essay or whatever. And I made school. I made money

494
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: for school. That's how I paid for school. First year

495
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 2: of school.

496
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so you knew the whole time that you you

497
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,639
Speaker 1: were aware of your family's financial restrictions.

498
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 2: I knew that MA was my brother was working his

499
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 2: way through Golk State. As a result, it took him

500
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 2: like several years to get through, not a straight four

501
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: year thing. And then I this is almost brought up.

502
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 2: We're about I was like, let me, I've got to

503
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: find a way to pay for this. And so I'm

504
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: taking this out like it was. You don't really put

505
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: this back in because I can just do everything in here.

506
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes we do it different possible.

507
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: We're watching you, we're learning. I know I was thinking it,

508
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 1: but I was trying not to coast one because I've

509
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: never made tackles super fun.

510
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's simple. So now you put in the.

511
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: Drys so you're putting in all the can.

512
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 2: Goods, all the can goods, that the dry stuff.

513
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: So during all, during all of this, you but you

514
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: tell your mom head on, you know you want to

515
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: be an acted the whole time. When does acting come?

516
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: And you know I want to be an act at all.

517
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to be a lawyer. Oh you know the

518
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: judge was was my mentor at the time.

519
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 1: And so when did the judge become your mentor? And

520
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 1: when you were in high school?

521
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she agreed to so she feel it is

522
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 2: it's fun. So she kept us in the NEIGHBORHO kept

523
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 2: us in that school. And mister Hessel was a vice

524
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,239
Speaker 2: prince from my high school. And he and I were

525
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: cool because he was that educated that like treated every

526
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: kid like they were a human being, even when they're

527
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 2: that trouble kid. Uh. And I wasn't the trouble kid,

528
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 2: but I did get in trouble a lot because I

529
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: could be I was what I'm just saying, Like I

530
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 2: was like, you know, like I said, vice prince, vice president,

531
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 2: but like I also knew, like I could get hold

532
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 2: of hall passes, so I'd be like we pulled the

533
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 2: car around sneak kids out.

534
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: Of school, you know, kind of like me, I can relate.

535
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, I'd not show up

536
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: for stuff and it'll be like, so I get detention

537
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: a lot. And he but he talked to you like

538
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 2: why you want me to give you attention? Yeah? What's

539
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 2: going on?

540
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

541
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: And you take five minutes to talk about that, and

542
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: then you take another forty minutes out of class and

543
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 2: just what's going on in your life? And he'd really

544
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: be interested in you. And he did that with the

545
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: kids who were like always in fights and actually trouble.

546
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: So he passed away my senior year, and even the

547
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: kids who were the trouble kids, the teachers couldn't stand

548
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 2: in tears because they loved that man. Wow, that's when

549
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: you know you're bad. That's when you know you're a beast,

550
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: because like even the kids that everybody can't stand love you. Yeah,

551
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 2: And they made a scholarship in his name. And I

552
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: knew him better than most, so I was able to yes,

553
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: scissors or something like that.

554
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: Teeth jas No, I'm just trying not to be that person.

555
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: It's eating while broke.

556
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: Yes.

557
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: I hope we get a zoom in are like, oh,

558
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: there we go. That's how we know you're official. Okay everywhere. Yeah,

559
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 1: you got to watch. It's all good though, It's all good.

560
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: First you put it on the me This is the secret.

561
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: You you put it on the stuff first.

562
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: You put it on all the beans first.

563
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: On the beans, the corn, the homony, and the stuff first,

564
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: and then we'll put in the put in the liquid

565
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: broth a little bit later. We want to like get

566
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: it in the end of me on there for a second,

567
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 2: just a little bit.

568
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: When was the last time you ate this dish?

569
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: My wife made it actually just like it's probably what

570
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: made me think of it. She made this. I haven't

571
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: made it in years, if you can't tell. Yeah, but

572
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: she made it actually just a couple of weeks ago.

573
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 2: For the kids. Wow, they love it. I mean they

574
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 2: had it when they were level, but we haven't had

575
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: it forever.

576
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: So when does the acting end up taking play in

577
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: your life.

578
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: I get to college and I'm planning on being a lawyer.

579
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 2: I'm putting together programs like the University of Virginia. They

580
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 2: don't have a formal pre law program, but you can

581
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: kind of put something together like that because their whole

582
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 2: thing is it's all the philosophy of they don't want

583
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 2: to teach you like how to have the job. They

584
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 2: want you how to think and that sort of things,

585
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: the whole jam. And I'm like, cool, that's great. And

586
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 2: but my boy was an architect and he was like

587
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: he was an architecture student. He was like, Yo, we're

588
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 2: gonna have really stiff jobs, so so we should do

589
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 2: something for just fun. Let's go take an acting class.

590
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: And we took that acting class and it was a rap.

591
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: I just kept I just kept showing back architect. No, Well,

592
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, he didn't get in the class.

593
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: The class was over sold, was too many kids in

594
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: the class, Like say, it's like supposed to be thirty students,

595
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 2: it already had like thirty three. And he said, I'll

596
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 2: take three more students and he just kind of did

597
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: like a quick little audition and I got in and

598
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: my buddy didn't. I think he's never forgiven me for that.

599
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: Oh, but is the architect now or yeah?

600
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was designing golf courses, I think. But so

601
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: I'm just warming.

602
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: All the being and your mom's being supportive of this

603
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: whole career choice.

604
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 2: Well, she loved me being a lawyer. My dad loved

605
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: me being a lawyer.

606
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: Oh, your dad was semi around still.

607
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 2: He was. We could contact him we want to. Our

608
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 2: mom would make us call him on Father's Day. She

609
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: would make us call him on Christmas. She would make

610
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: us call him on his birthday. Which is when you

611
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: know who's the problem in this situation is the parent

612
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: that's making you call the other parent? Yeah, is not

613
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: the problem.

614
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

615
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, my mom's a insane. But everything's cool when

616
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: you're going to be a lawyer, because you're gonna be

617
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: official and everybody gets the stability of that. Everybody gets

618
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 2: how that works. But I kept finding my way back

619
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: in the theater department. I kept ended up over there.

620
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: I did a play and then I like, then you're

621
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: like really addicted. It's like that's one of the acting

622
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: is in addiction, right, everything else is just helping you

623
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: manage it. Yeah, so I was. Then I made the decision,

624
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: you know what, I need to go to graduate school

625
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: for acting because I want to do this thing for

626
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: a living. I remember I had a teacher who she

627
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 2: was the hard ass in the school. Who was she

628
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: She's the one that people go into her office for

629
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: their like mid semester or halfway you know, at the

630
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: end of the semester like evaluation, come out crying. And

631
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: I went in there like nervous as hell because everybody,

632
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: like somebody came out right in front of me, boohooming.

633
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: And I went in there and she sat down. She

634
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: stared at me, Betsy Tucker, and Bessie looks at me

635
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: and goes, you're not bad at this. You can do

636
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: this for a living. And I'll never forget what she

637
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: said there. She goes, you could do this for a living.

638
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

639
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: Wow.

640
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm beginning to get an idea of

641
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: how deep this career could get in terms of, you know,

642
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: how rough it would be yo at times. Now I'm

643
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: throwing in the other dice tomatoes. Yes.

644
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: And then how long on average does it take to

645
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: make this?

646
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: You said, well, I'll let it. I'll let it. See,

647
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: throw the broth in for a second, bring it to

648
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: a boil, and then and then we'll let it settle

649
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: for like fifteen twenty minutes.

650
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: So it probably takes like in in actually other like

651
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: thirty or thirty minutes to make this.

652
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, it depends on if you wanted

653
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: more like a soup, or if you want it more

654
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 2: you know, like a stew, or if you want to

655
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: get it all way to something feeling more like a chilling.

656
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: Do you ever add tortillas on the side when you

657
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: eat it?

658
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: Oh?

659
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I could see this dish being like a

660
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: like flower tortillas on the side.

661
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: Hard to have the name taco soup, because.

662
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: You know it definitely looks hardy.

663
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, it's something like what do I

664
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: what can I make? Yeah? What can be? Remember? I'm

665
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: like we made this when weird. I had just gotten

666
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: to town, gotten one gig under my belt. I'd seen

667
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: plenty of other actors on soap operas get a gig,

668
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: you know, even get nominated for a Daytime Emmy. I

669
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: got my little Daytime Emmy nomination, and I was proud

670
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: and love it. But then I've seen people get that

671
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: and never work again.

672
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: So how long was your was your hardest break? Like

673
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: when how long was the biggest gap in your career.

674
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: I don't think I've been blessed. I'm gonna say that

675
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: right up, but you never know, because I think I've

676
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: been blessed. I don't think I've ever gone more than

677
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: a year wow without working, which, knock all the wood

678
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: in the world is a blessing now. Like I said, though,

679
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 2: I made the mistake of moving my lifestyle up and

680
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: then I was working doing guest star roles. But I

681
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: was trying to live a series regular life with a

682
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: house in mortgage and intuitions. Yeah, so suddenly I was like,

683
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm working, but I didn't be working twice three times

684
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: as much as I'm working right now, or earning two

685
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 2: or three times as much. In order to state this lifestyle.

686
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: Was there ever a period where you're on a break

687
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, I need to get a job,

688
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: like another job.

689
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: No. No, I thought about it, and I started. There

690
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: was one point in that year where where I was like,

691
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: maybe now we look at teaching acting kind of thing.

692
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: It's always been a goal, but it was always also

693
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: partially in my backup, so it was like, okay, let's

694
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: think about this and turning this back up now. But

695
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: I never did it at the university level, which is

696
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: what I always thought I would do. But not long

697
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: after the you know, we were, I was underemployed. Let's

698
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: say I wasn't unemployed. I was underemployed for the life

699
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: we had. But things started to like pick up looked

700
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: like grays might happen. I started my own acting workshop,

701
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: and because like I said, it had always been a goal.

702
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: And then grades started happening and suddenly I'm a series regular.

703
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: And but I kept the acting workshop going because it

704
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: was what was beautiful about it was there was nothing

705
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: on it. It wasn't to earn money for me. It

706
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 2: wasn't for somebody to try and get a job like

707
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: auditions are and everything like that. It's like whatever we

708
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: do in here creatively, it's just about seeing what we

709
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: can do. It's just about letting thoroughbreds passion. It's just

710
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 2: for just for a passion, just for the art. I mean,

711
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 2: it's like for the love of the game. Right. So

712
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: that was I did that for like ten years. Wow,

713
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: I ran that workshop. And you know, in some of

714
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: my there's nothing better feeling and helping somebody break through

715
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: in terms of understanding themselves and their craft. And they

716
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: and so I'm you know, I'm watching them, you know,

717
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: gave a couple of them the recipe for tacos. I'm like,

718
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: here's something. No, but it was the it will help

719
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: you through.

720
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: But you did you ever give us student the same

721
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: advice that your teacher said to you about you being

722
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: a great actor? And I feel bad?

723
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: What did she say, Yeah, you could do this for

724
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: a living. I wouldn't wish that on my worst than.

725
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: Did you say that to any of your students?

726
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: I have, and they and they persist and they you know,

727
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: and it's there's nothing better than seeing somebody get their

728
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: first guest starring role, which is a big deal in

729
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: an actor's life. And then and then the thing that

730
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 2: many actors never get to see it. And you know, I've

731
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: had one or two of them get their series regular.

732
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: You know, get a contract thing where you can actually

733
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: be like, oh so for the next you look at

734
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: the contract next year, I can breathe, yeah, you know

735
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: what I mean. And that's a that's a crazy time.

736
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: But it's but it's tough because you also don't know

737
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: because you can make money. I tell people, I'm like,

738
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: when you first get on a show, god bless you,

739
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: thank God, hug everybody. Treat everybody well, from the janitor

740
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: to the person who writes the show. But you know,

741
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: buy a car, don't buy the house.

742
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: Why I would to say I would have said, I

743
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: would have thought you would have said the opposite, because

744
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: with the house to get equity, yes, and a car

745
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 1: is a liability.

746
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 2: The only way that's my initial statement is okay, we're

747
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: gonna get into financial leadership. If you can get a

748
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: house where or a condo where you know that the

749
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: monthly mortgage once you do the down payment will be

750
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: the same as you pay in rent, then it's a

751
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: smart move. A mistake that most people have is they

752
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 2: think I'm on TV, I got a contract, I'm a

753
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: serious regular I'm gonna buy a million dollar house. I'm like, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, wow, Wow,

754
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: what are you doing? I mean, like, slow it down

755
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: because now you've now you're paying monthly two and three

756
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: times times which you were paying. Keep it low.

757
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: I was freedom and so and banks like to banks

758
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: like to offer you way more house than you can

759
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: buy and as.

760
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: Much money as they can they But.

761
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: I like what you said, like, make sure that the

762
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: rent is you know, something that you pay in the

763
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: in the real market.

764
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: If your more, if your monthly mortgage is basically what

765
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: you be paying a rent, you got to pay to

766
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: somebody better to pay it to you yet, right, But

767
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: that's my secondary conversation. My initial conversation is if you

768
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: need to buy a car, buy a car, but don't

769
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: buy the house, because that's a whole level of financial

770
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: responsibility which takes away some of your freedom.

771
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: Yeah it does, right, yep. So you you give people

772
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: the keep your overhead as low as possible while pursuing

773
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: this passion.

774
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: That's your freedom. Yeah, that's your frequency only. You have

775
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: control of a very few things in this business, but

776
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: that one you do. I mean, look, my first coming

777
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: off the soap, the first tip I did was for

778
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: Aaron Spelling, you know, legendary producer. I've been blessed to

779
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: work with Aaron Spelling and shine the rhymes like to legendary.

780
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: And he was like, cool, so, well, you know I've

781
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: started in this primetime show. You should audition for that.

782
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: So I went into test for that, testing for his

783
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: show on day one and testing for another show on

784
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: day two. The first episode the first show was it

785
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: was a horrible show, and I was the black best friend.

786
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: My job was basically asked the white guy who was

787
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 2: the lead, I was your date last night. So then

788
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: he could go on for like five minutes about what's

789
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 2: going on in his life. The other show, I basically

790
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: was going to play Lady Kravitz basically like this ron star, right,

791
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: this rock star, like you know, and who's trying to

792
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: figure out like who in my life actually loves me?

793
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: For me? Like, what does this mean? I'm successful? What

794
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: does that mean? I was like, that's dope, that's a

795
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 2: cool that's like that's juice. I could do that all day.

796
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: The other thing is like a job, that's a career move,

797
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: that's a job. So they literally Monday and Tuesday auditioned

798
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: for Titans on Monday and on for the spelling Joint

799
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 2: on Monday and I walk in and it's for the

800
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 2: writer and director. That's it. I do my thing. I

801
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: don't even make it home. Half an hour later they go,

802
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: you got the job, and I realized that's a good

803
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: spelling basical, was like, hey, number ten or eleven in

804
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: the call sheet, it's my guy. If you hate him,

805
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: then no, but otherwise, you know, give them the job. Simple,

806
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 2: no big deal, keep it moving. I got a job.

807
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: I said, well, great, I'm auditioning for the thing I

808
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: really want tomorrow. Can I tell you them tomorrow?

809
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: Can I confirm tomorrow if I.

810
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Auditioned, I'll have an idea of like, yeah, yeah, I

811
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: kill it. Did I kill whatever? You know? And they're like, no,

812
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 2: you got to tell us now, Jesus, And I said, okay,

813
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: well I got to tell you now.

814
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Then No, I knew you were going to say that.

815
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: I just know based thought this whole story he was

816
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 1: going to say, no, I'm right and that.

817
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: It was one of my proudest moments because I was

818
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: like and then so then they were like, okay, I went.

819
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: I went to the audition the next day. Then my

820
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: thing did not get the other thing by the way

821
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: that one, Like, where was the writer and director for

822
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 2: the spelling thing? It was like thirty fifty forty people

823
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: in the room, like everybody had to sign off from me. Yeah,

824
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: didn't get it. Immediately called and said, yo, can we

825
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: get the other thing back?

826
00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: Did they see us?

827
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? They did, Thank god. That's but that also tell me.

828
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: That taught me another big lesson. It's just business for them,

829
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: it's just business. For us, it feels personal and we're

830
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 2: all caught up in it.

831
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: And so what was cool was that, Like, I love

832
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: that you called back that, you know, And so I.

833
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: Remember going to the other table read for that show

834
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 2: and they came, you know, the president of Spelling Television

835
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: that Aaron were like, they were like, dude, you gave

836
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: us a heart attack, Like give me hugs and stuff.

837
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: I thought it'd be mad. No, it's just business. So

838
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: when you we worry about the risk all the time,

839
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: and it's like part of the risk we think is

840
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: they'll hate me and they won't hire me anymore. And

841
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: it's like for them, it's just business. They get that

842
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: this role is not the end all be off. They

843
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: get that that's a better role. They know that they

844
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: know what's best for me, and that they can't be

845
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: mad at me for trying to do it's best for me.

846
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: If I do it in a jack away, there's a

847
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: different thing. So it was like it taught me a

848
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: lot of lessons really early in my career of like

849
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: how to conduct yourself, don't you know, make the smart move,

850
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: not necessarily the safe move, know when they're the same thing,

851
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: and know when they're not the same thing. Yeah, that's

852
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: kind of how I've been trying to live my life

853
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: the entire time and try to teach my kids and

854
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: try and tell my friends when they asked me for advice,

855
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, you got kids in the family. You

856
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: need to put your head down and work this way.

857
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: My kids are almost grown, so I'm like looking forward

858
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: to this chapter where I'm like, what kind of buck

859
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 2: ass wild stuff can I do next? I mean, but

860
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: I've been blessed that, like I'm back on Grays. I'm

861
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: back on Grays Anatomy because when Station nineteen wrapped up

862
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: after seven seasons, they were like, we think you can

863
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: come back over to the Grades. I was like, is

864
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: there still story there? And they ran down a bunch

865
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 2: of ideas for you know, my character Ben warrened to

866
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 2: go through and I was like, yeah, okay, I'm in.

867
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 2: I'm in because it got me excited as a as

868
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: an actor.

869
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: What do your kids say about your career?

870
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: My kids, my goal was like if I could have

871
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 2: had the money, and like if I could have had

872
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 2: like Will Smith's money and choices, but like, had my

873
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: kids think I was a janitor, that would have been

874
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: like my goal for the longest time to keep I

875
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: keep it as regular as possible at home. And so

876
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: for a long time it didn't factor it. It wasn't

877
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: until like Grey's Anatomy was just too big and too

878
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: big with their friend group to like hide that they

879
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: had friends who were like a little like geek, like,

880
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: oh I know you did, and like that's when they

881
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: like so they were like, you know, beyond that, beyond it.

882
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: They had like a little there was a kids movie

883
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: that like I did that they loved when they were

884
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: like five, but like that was like you know, my

885
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: daughter cried about like daddy, bad guy whatever. You know,

886
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: that's a whole different thing. They don't get it. This

887
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: was when they actually went like, oh, okay, and they

888
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: saw that, like, you know, financially things changed and our

889
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: vacations got better. But the house I love.

890
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: I love that you keep it. It's like you fully

891
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: understand the scope of the risk that you take the

892
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: whole time you're doing this career.

893
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like and you know when the and what

894
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm excited about is, you know, look, I'm a I'm

895
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: an enjoy myself on grades and when they're done with

896
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: me or when it doesn't make any more sense, there's

897
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: no more story for bed. Whatever the next thing is

898
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: is going to be something that only the stuff that

899
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm excited about because I love my kids are almost

900
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: out the house, so I'm like, it's not about yo,

901
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: that job thing. So it's like, you know, I can

902
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: go back to making risky moves.

903
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: Oh my good, and the house is almost paid off.

904
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: I'd imagine at this point.

905
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: It's like we do okay. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's

906
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: been it's been an interesting ride. And in that spot

907
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: where knowing that like, you know, I can still beat

908
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 2: my kids in the foot race, so but we're in

909
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: the financially decent spot. So I was like, I'm pretty

910
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: hyped about where I am right now, Like yeah.

911
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: Well, let's see what your tackle soup tastes like.

912
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Is it right? It's somewhere in there. It should be.

913
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: I mean, it should taste decent. This is the thing.

914
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: Is the thing about taco soup is that it gets

915
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: better as its I'm gonna let it.

916
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go pick up my daughter and come right

917
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: back and be like, let's bring this soup home. Well,

918
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: I didn't even bring it to a boil, so oh,

919
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a while.

920
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 2: I got to bring it to a boil and then

921
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: let it simmer for like a little bit after that.

922
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: But so it takes a second, you know how like

923
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 2: chili is and good soups do. But you could take

924
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: a sip down and I give you an idea.

925
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna take just put a little bit. You

926
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: and buy are both gonna do it together. Okay, So

927
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna judge based off the fact that he couldn't

928
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: fully fully bring it to a boil and simmer. It

929
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: looks really good though, it looks colorful. I have a question,

930
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: do you ever add a cheese to this?

931
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: But again, we'll put we'll put the I should have

932
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: told you treaded cheese and like you said, taco strips

933
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: or something like that, and you can throw a little

934
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 2: bit of the We can't have people do I don't

935
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: because you know I try and do hikma say how many?

936
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: How many? How many? How many? How many?

937
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 1: All right? Does it taste good?

938
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: Okay? Anything? But it gets better over time? Like I said,

939
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: is it? This is really good? As it sucks up

940
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: the juices and stuff, it gets better.

941
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Now the meat is perfectly tender and it's not dry.

942
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: If you boil it and let it simmer, Will the

943
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: meat get dry.

944
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: When you get dry with it? No, that's the beauty

945
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: of it. It's just gonna get It's gonna's gonna suck

946
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 2: up these juices. So right now it's on the super side.

947
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 2: This is the taco soup. It'll start looking more and

948
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: more closer to a chili as this like, if I

949
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: boil it, let it similar for another like fifteen to twenty.

950
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: After that, we eat whatever we're gonna eat, throw it

951
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: in the fridge. Tomorrow's when it tastes the best. I really,

952
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: I think it's good the first out, but the next day,

953
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: which is perfect for the like we are on crazy schedules,

954
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 2: we're running.

955
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: Did you put real tomatoes in this?

956
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 2: What did you do?

957
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: Oh tomatoes?

958
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: It is good? You look so we just hitting the

959
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 2: boil now.

960
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: Honestly, if this tastes better tomorrow, I go see you

961
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: eating with this with like saltine crackers.

962
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: Right, it thickens up whatever you want to. It's like

963
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: all those like very tortillas, all that stuff is just

964
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: it's a vehicle for whatever something else.

965
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: So when do you add the salsa in it?

966
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: But then sometimes I throw it in now if I

967
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 2: want to. It's at a good spice level. Right now.

968
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: Some will leave it, but people will sometimes throw it

969
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: in on top of the you know, with you throw

970
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: some cheese on it, just like a taco, right, you

971
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: throw your cheese on top of it and throw because

972
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: you can actually say something, this is magnificent.

973
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you, and for all y'all listeners

974
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: at home. This was literally a couple of bucks, like

975
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: a dollar, two dollars cans.

976
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: It's the whole point.

977
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: It's like, if you can't cook and you're a man,

978
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: this is like, yeah, you can impress someone with this.

979
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I My wife is the one

980
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: who introduced it to me, and then I would it

981
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: was one of the things that I could cook that

982
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 2: even when she wasn't around.

983
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: The sauce is really good. Did you try a bit

984
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: just a song?

985
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: Hm?

986
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: Great, great meal. Thank you so much Jason for feeding me. Now,

987
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: shout out to your mom because there's a couple of

988
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: things that you mentioned that I don't want to overlook

989
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: the fact that your mom raised three sons. It sounds

990
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: like all three of you went to college.

991
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: See it again, three sons went to college, worked that

992
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: way through. My older brother worked his way through. I

993
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: managed to put together scholarships, and I worked as an

994
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: ra to get myself all the way through. And my

995
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: younger brother got an athletic scholarship and athletic academic combination

996
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: scholarship the Howard University, so Norfolk State, UVA, me and him.

997
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: My older brother went to Norfolk State. I went to UVA,

998
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: myright younger brother went to Howard and she we all

999
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: had to get it done. But she, she's the matriarch.

1000
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 1: She held it down. Even the conversation when she talked

1001
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: about like selling your home, just how she included you guys,

1002
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: like what are the restraints, what are the feedback? And

1003
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: for her to even hold it down to just like, Okay,

1004
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: you know this is your goals. I'm going to make

1005
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: sure that you see those things through. I think that

1006
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: was pretty impressive, along with the fact that you've eaten

1007
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: broke so long that you cannot even eat spaghetti anymore,

1008
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: really says a lot about your story, and even just

1009
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: sharing like the financial literacy aspect really shows that you

1010
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: were really eating while broke while pursuing your dreams and

1011
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: earning college degree and making sure that you had career

1012
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: stability with acting teaching acting in the background. I love

1013
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: every part of your story. Thank you, and we love

1014
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: watching you on Gray's Anatomy. We want to keep seeing

1015
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: you on more and more and more and more stuff.

1016
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: What advice would you give to an actor and actress

1017
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: trying to get in this industry? Now?

1018
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: A couple of things. On the we talked about financial literacy,

1019
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: keep your overhead low, right, that's that financial freedom is

1020
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: freedom and financial freedom is creative freedom. On the creative tip,

1021
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: you got a camera in your pocket, you need to

1022
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: be creating. Stop. You know, if you can learn how

1023
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: to write, if you can learn how to direct, if

1024
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: you can all that, you can just play around with it.

1025
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 2: Nobody else needs to see it. You and your friends

1026
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: making stuff, and if you do it right, then it

1027
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: becomes you know Ray, you know, awkward black girl, which

1028
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: becomes insecure. I mean, like you need to be creating

1029
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: your own stuff because nobody. I had a friend who

1030
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: used to use this great phrase. He said, you're unique,

1031
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: but you're not special. I mean, don't think you're better

1032
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: than anybody else. But nobody in the world has what

1033
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: you have, the exact blend of stuff of you. So

1034
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: create something. I mean, just do it on your phone.

1035
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: Create something. You never know what it's going to turn into.

1036
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: I love that.

1037
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: And sometimes when you get a veteran in the game,

1038
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: someone that has a long resume like yours, they hate

1039
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: on the new era of the phone and pull out

1040
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: your phone.

1041
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 2: And technology always changes, Technology always changes. Every theater actor

1042
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: hated on you know, every silent film actor hated on talkies,

1043
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: and then you know film actors hated on television, and

1044
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: everyone wants to hate on whatever the new thing is.

1045
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: Get over it. It moves, it moves, you know, move

1046
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: with it or be a dinosaur. Right that said, you

1047
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: got to hold on to and remember what's actually real,

1048
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: because that human thing like AI is the only thing

1049
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: that I'll hate on uh and even But here's the

1050
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: thing I say when I say hey, I don't mean

1051
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: because my brother's a computer jack and he uses AI

1052
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: all the time as a tool. He's a human theme,

1053
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, using it as a tool. But there are

1054
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: two people who try and use it to replace human beings.

1055
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: And I'm like, the thing that allowed us go from

1056
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: theater to move to silent, to talkies to TV is

1057
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: that human thing we always connect with. You see somebody

1058
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: who's like, I know exactly what that's like to fall

1059
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: in love, to lose somebody, to do with that human

1060
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 2: thing that sticks. If you can hold onto that doesn't

1061
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: matter what the technology is. And if you can use

1062
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: AI to bring that out, that's cool. But AI can't

1063
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: create that.

1064
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: AID can't create it. And I think there's this thing

1065
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: where people think that it can. And I was I

1066
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: have a girlfriend that's doing a children's book right now.

1067
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: She hired an animator and the animator was obvious was

1068
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: using AI. And I looked at it, and she's like,

1069
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,479
Speaker 1: what do you think? And I was like, this is AI.

1070
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: And the truth in the matter is kind of what

1071
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: you said about being unique. It's just when you're an

1072
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: artist and you can somehow that vulnerability is still pours

1073
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: through an art. And I like when you say AI

1074
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: can be used as tool, but it cannot on no

1075
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: lever can it replace incredible writing, or incredible acting or

1076
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: incredible drawing. You could see it from a mile away.

1077
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 2: I spell it with with computer generated animation, they would

1078
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: call it. If you see a computer generated person, they

1079
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: called it the uncanny Valley. It could be looking like

1080
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: it was a picture, almost like an actual photograph, except

1081
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: for something about the eyes.

1082
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah you can't.

1083
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: You can just look where the movements and we just go, Nah,

1084
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: that's not it. That's not a real person.

1085
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: I assure you, even if you try, like I play

1086
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: around with a lot of AI tools, I just I

1087
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: don't know. For me, it's like a playground of just

1088
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: seeing what it can do. But if you pay attention,

1089
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: you will see when it comes to the details, it

1090
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: misses every time.

1091
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: Exactly details. And that's ultimately what that's what makes the difference.

1092
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: The difference is as a human being, we have opinions

1093
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: and best sign I saw on the strike lines because

1094
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: I was neat. I was part of the negotiating committee

1095
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: for the billion dollar deal we got coming out of them,

1096
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: the striking such but walking the picking lines. I remember

1097
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: sobody had a sign it was a writer and it

1098
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: said AI didn't have a fucked up childhood? Yeah, And

1099
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: to me, I was like, that's the world. Like there's

1100
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: a perspective that comes from all the stuff that hits

1101
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: you in your life, good, bad, ugly that you bring

1102
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: to when you write this thing, which is why you

1103
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: got the writing job instead of that person, you know.

1104
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: And then that that diversity is like the missing link,

1105
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: Like that's why you see big companies like Google or

1106
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: whoever when they have to have like this diverse, like

1107
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: different backgrounds, because they need these perspectives. And that that

1108
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: sign right there said all more than enough. But where

1109
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: can everybody keep up with Jason George?

1110
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: You know, I'm on Instagram and Facebook. I think Instagram

1111
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: is Jason Winston George and they spoke. I think it's

1112
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: Jason W. George and I think that's what it is

1113
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: on Blue Sky and X.

1114
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: And then do you actually handle your own handles? Do

1115
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: you and say hey, what up?

1116
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, you gotta know that, like my Facebook is

1117
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: connected to my Instagram. So I had a friend, like

1118
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: somebody who I knew who like lived down the block

1119
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: for me has my phone number. They made a movie

1120
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: and they were like, you know, an independent joint and

1121
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, well that was the role. And

1122
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: they showed me. They were screaming the movie. They were like, yo,

1123
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: that's the role that we wanted you to do. I

1124
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: was like, why didn't you holler at me? They're like

1125
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: we dead. I was like, no, you did not higher

1126
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: at me because and they said, yeah, I hit you

1127
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: on Facebook.

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00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: I was like, stop, stop, I don't get that.

1129
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: Don't don't hit me on Facebook. You need to hit me.

1130
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: So but my point is they hit me on Instagram.

1131
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: They'd have had a twenty percent chance of getting me

1132
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: Facebook give a zero.

1133
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: If you have the number, I hit the number direct.

1134
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, but if you hadn't actually just walked

1135
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: down the street knock on my door man, you know

1136
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: where I live. But but yeah, but you it's mine.

1137
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: So if you holler at me when you see me

1138
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: putting stuff out there, that's me putting stuff out nice

1139
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: And I'll be putting random stuff out all the time.

1140
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 2: Like I almost had like a thirty six hour think

1141
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: of just eagles after.

1142
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: Because I can tell you are so proud of this moment.

1143
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 2: Eagles one on my super Bowl.

1144
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: That's right on my birthday.

1145
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: My birthday was the day that Eagles won the Super Bowl. Somewhere,

1146
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: we're Shannon that I can't see. Shannon. My publicist is

1147
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 2: around here somewhere, and she's a Cowboys fan. And she's

1148
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: rolling her eyes right now because she's My mom's a

1149
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: Cowboys fans.

1150
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: Shout out to your mom. We love her.

1151
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 2: It's her one fault. It's her one fault. Leave she can,

1152
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: she can be Cowboys fan. You can be wrong. It's

1153
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: legal to be wrong. It's legal to do unintelligent things.

1154
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: But that's just on you. That's just on you.

1155
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: Well, thank you Jason for feeding me and taking time

1156
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: out of your crazy schedule to bless us with a

1157
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: little insight of who you are behind the camera.

1158
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.

1159
00:49:46,760 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: Thank you. He's out, y'all. Assass