1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media book Club book Club, book Club book Club. 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to cools On Media book Club, the 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: only book club where you don't have to do the 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: reading because I do it for you. I'm your host, 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Margaret Kiljoy, And this week I have the first of 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: another two parter called Because Change was the Ocean and 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: we lived by her Mercy by the One, the only, 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: Charlie Jane Anders. There's probably not someone else named Charlie 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Jane Anders. That's a very specific name. And also she's amazing, 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to be reading a story by 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: her to you all. And I'm I'm really excited to 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: read this story in particular to you. You'll probably figure 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: it out as I read it. Why I feel that way. 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: This story was originally published in Drown Worlds, a twenty 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: sixteen short story anthology themed around the futures Will Inherit 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: when the Oceans Rise, which hooray anyway. It's edited by 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: Jonathan Stehuan. This story, it's a love letter to San Francisco, 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: which is not the part I'm excited about. I'm gonna 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: be honest about that. And in a lot of ways, 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: it's also a story about falling in and out of 21 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: love with the community, and about aging and subculture. And 22 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: that's why I'm interested in it. I have no opinions 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: about that, no experience with that whatsoever, but I'm excited 24 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: to hear what you all think. So let's get into it. 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: Because change was the ocean, and we lived by her 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: mercy by Charlie Jane anders One. This was sacred, this 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: was stolen. We stood naked on the shore of Bernal 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: and watched the candle's float across the bay, swept by 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: a lazy current off to the north in the direction 30 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: of Protrero Island. A dozen or so candles stayed afloat 31 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: and a light after half a league, their tiny flame 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: sames bobbing up and down, casting long yellow reflections on 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: the dark water, alongside the streaks of moonlight. At times 34 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: I fancied the candlelight could filter down onto the streets 35 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: and buildings, the old automobiles and houses full of children's toys, 36 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: all the water log treasures of long gone people. We 37 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: held hands, twenty or thirty of us, and watched the 38 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: little candle boats we'd made as they floated away. Ycondo 39 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: was humming an old reconstructed song about the wild road 40 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: here beard full of flowers. We all just held our breath. 41 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I felt my bare skin go electric with the intensity 42 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: of the moment, like this could be the good time 43 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: we'd all remember in the bad times to come. This 44 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: was sacred, this was stolen. And then someone, probably Miranda, farted, 45 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: And then we were all laughing, and the grown up 46 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: seriousness was gone. We were all busting up and falling 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: over each other on the right ground and a nude heap, 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: scraping our knees and giggling into each other's limbs. When 49 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: we got our breath back and looked up, the candles 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: were all gone. Two. I felt like I had always 51 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: been wrongheaded. I couldn't deal with life in Fairbanks anymore. 52 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: I grew up at the same time as the town, 53 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: watched it go from regular city to megacity. As I 54 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: hit my early twenties, I lived in an old, decommissioned 55 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: solar power station with five other kids, and we tried 56 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: to make the loudest, most uncomforting music we could, with 57 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: a beat as relentless and merciless as the tides. We 58 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: wanted to shake our cinder block walls and make people 59 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: dance until their feet bled but we sucked. We were 60 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: bad at music and not quite dumb enough to know it. 61 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: We all wore big hoods and spiky shoes and tried 62 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: to make our own drums out of dry cloth and 63 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: cracked wood, and we read our poetry. On Friday nights. 64 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: There were book houses along with stink tanks where you 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: could drink up and listen to awful poetry about extinct animals. 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: People came from all over because everybody heard that Fairbanks 67 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: was becoming the most civilized place on Earth. And that's 68 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: when I decided to leave town. At this moment of 69 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: looking around at my musician friends and my restaurant job 70 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: and our cool little scene and feeling like there had 71 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: to be more to life than this, I hitched a 72 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: ride down south and ended up in Olympia at a 73 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: house where they were growing their own food and drugs, 74 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: and doing a way better job with the drugs than 75 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: the food. We were all staring upwards at the first 76 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: cloud anybody had seen in weeks, trying to identify what 77 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: it could mean when you hardly ever saw them, clouds 78 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: had to be omens. We were all complaining about our 79 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: dumb families, still watching that cloud warp and contort, and 80 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: I found myself talking about how my parents only liked 81 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: to listen to that boring boopop music with the same 82 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: three or four major chords and that cruddy AAA bbb 83 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: cde cde rhyme scheme, and how my mother insisted on 84 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: saving every scrap of organic material we used and collecting 85 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: every drop of rain water as fucking pathetic as what 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: it is. They act like we're still living in the 87 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: Great Decimation. They're just super traumatized, said this skinny gender 88 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: freak named Julia, who stood nearby holding the bong. It's 89 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: hard to even imagine. I mean, we're the first generation 90 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: that just takes it for granted we're going to survive 91 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: as like a species. Our parents, our grandparents and their grandparents, 92 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: they were all living like every day could be the 93 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: day the planet finally got done with us. They didn't 94 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: grow up having moisture condensers and micoprotein rinses and skin cys. Yeah, 95 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: whatever I said, But what Julia said stuck with me 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: because I had never thought of my parents as traumatized. 97 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: I had always thought they were just tightly wound and judgy. 98 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Julia had two cones of dark twisty hair on Zeer 99 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: head and a red pajam zut and Ze was only 100 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: a year or two older than me, but seemed a 101 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: lot wiser. I want to find all the music we 102 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: used to have, I said, you know, the weird, noisy 103 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: shit that made people's clothes fall off and their hair 104 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: light on fire. The rock and roll that just listening 105 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: to it turned girls into boys, the songs that took 106 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: away the fear of God. I've read about it, but 107 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: I've never heard any of it, and I don't even 108 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: know how to play it. Yeah, all the recordings and 109 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: notations got lost in the dataclysm. Julia said. They were 110 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: in formats that nobody can read. They got corrupted where 111 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: they were printed on discs made from petroleum. Those songs 112 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: are gone forever. I think they're under the ocean, I said, 113 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: I think they're down there somewhere. Something about the way 114 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: I said that helped Julia reach a decision. Hey, I'm 115 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: heading back down to the San Francisco Archipelago in the morning. 116 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: I got room in my car if you want to 117 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: come with. Julia's carr was an older solar mine that 118 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: had to stop every couple of hours to recharge and 119 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: the self driving module didn't work so great. My legs 120 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: were resting in a pile of old head mods and biofilms, 121 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: plus those costumes that everybody used a few summers earlier. 122 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: That major skin turned into snake skin that you could 123 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: shed in one piece. So the upshot was we had 124 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: a lot of time to talk and hold hands and 125 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: look at the endless golden landscape stretching off to the east. 126 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: Julia had these big, bright eyes that laughed when the 127 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: rest of zir face was stone serious, and strong tentative 128 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: hands to hold me in place as Zee tied me 129 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: to the car seat with fronds of algae. I had 130 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: never felt as safe and dangerous as when I crossed 131 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: the wasteland with Julia. We talked for hours about how 132 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: the world needed new communities, new ways to breathe life 133 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: back into the ocean, new ways to be people. By 134 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: the time we got to Bernal Island and the wrong 135 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Headed Community, I was in love with Juya deeper than 136 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: I had ever felt with anyone before. Julia up and 137 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: left Bernal a week and a half later because Z 138 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: got bored again, and I barely noticed that Z was gone. 139 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: By then, I was in love with a hundred other people, 140 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: and they were all in love with me. Bernal Island 141 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: was only accessible from one direction from the big island 142 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: in the middle, and only at a couple times a 143 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: day when they let the bridge down and turned off 144 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: the moat. After a few days on Bernal, I stopped 145 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: even noticing the other islands on our horizon, let alone 146 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: paying attention to my friends on social media talking about 147 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: all the fancy new restaurants Fairbanks was getting. I was 148 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: constantly having these intense, heartfelt moments with people and the 149 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: wrong headed crew. The ocean is our lover. You can 150 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: hear it laughing at us. Yokanda was the sort of 151 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: leader here. See. Sometimes had a beard and sometimes a smooth, 152 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: round face covered with perfect bright makeup. Her eyes were 153 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: as gray as the sea and just as unpredictable. For decades, 154 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: sam and Sisco and other places like it had been 155 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 1: abandoned because the combination of seismic instability and a voracious 156 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: dead ocean made them too scary and risky. But that 157 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: city down there under the waves had been the place 158 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: everybody came to from all over the world to find freedom. 159 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: That legacy was ours now, and those people had brought 160 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: music from their native countries and their own cultures, and 161 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: all those sounds had crashed together in those streets night 162 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: after night. Yokanda's own ancestors had come from China and Peru, 163 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: and here great grandparents had played nine string guitars, melodies 164 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: and rhythms that Yokanda barely recalled. Now, listening to hear, 165 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: I almost fancied I could put my ear to the 166 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: surface of the ocean and hear all the sounds from 167 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: generations past, still reverberating. We sat all night, Yokanda, some 168 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: of the others and myself and I got to play 169 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: on an old school drum made of cowhide or something. 170 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: I felt like I had always been wrongheaded, and I 171 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: just never had the word for it before. Julia sent 172 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: me an email a month or two after Z left Bernal. 173 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: The moment I met you, I knew you needed to 174 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: be with the rest of those maniacs. I've never been 175 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: able to resist delivering lost children to their rightful homes. 176 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: It's almost the only thing I'm good at, other than 177 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: the things you already know about. I never saw Zero again, 178 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: but you'll see us again right after this ad break, 179 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: and we're back three I'm so glad I found a 180 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: group of people I would risk drowning in dead water for. 181 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: Back in the twenty first century, everybody had theories about 182 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: how to make the ocean breathe again. Filler with quicklimeb 183 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: to realized the acid split the water molecules into hydrogen 184 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: and oxygen, and bond the hydrogen with the surplus carbon 185 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: in the water to create a clean, burning hydrocarbon fuel released. 186 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Genetically engineered fish with special gilds grow special algae that 187 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: was designed to commit suicide. After a while, spray billions 188 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: of nanotech balls into her and a few other things. 189 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: Now we had to clean up the after effects of 190 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: all those failed solutions while also helping the sea to 191 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: let go of all that co two from before. The 192 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: only way was the slow way. We pumped ocean water 193 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: through our special enzyme store and then through a series 194 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: of filters until what came out the other end was 195 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: clear and oxygen rich. The waste we separated out and 196 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: disposed of. Some of it became raw materials for shoe 197 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: soles and roof tiles. Some of it the pure organic 198 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: residue we used as fertilizer or food for our mycoprotein 199 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: I got used to staying up all night playing music 200 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: with some of the other wrongheaded kids, sometimes on the 201 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: drum and sometimes on an old stringed instrument that was 202 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: made of stained wood and had a leering catface under 203 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: its fret. Sometimes I thought I could hear something in 204 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: the way our halting beats and scratchy notes bounced off 205 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: the walls and the water beyond, like we were really 206 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: conjuring a lost soundtrack. Sometimes it all just seemed like 207 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: a waste. What did it mean to be a real 208 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: authentic person in an era when everything great from the 209 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: past was twenty feet underwater? Would you embrace prefab newness 210 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: or try to copy the images you can see from 211 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: the handful of docs we've scrounged from the dataclysm. When 212 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: we got tired of playing music an hour before dawn, 213 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: we would sit around arguing. In Inevitably, you got to 214 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: that moment where you were looking straight into someone else's 215 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: eyes and arguing about the past and whether the past 216 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: could ever be on land or the past was doomed 217 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: to be deep underwater forever. I felt like I was 218 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: just drunk all the time on that cheap ass vodka 219 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: that everybody chugged in Fairbanks, or maybe on nitrous. My 220 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: head was evaporating, but my heart just got more and 221 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: more solid. I woke up every day on my bunk 222 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: or sometimes tangled up in someone else's arms and legs 223 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: on the day bed, and felt actually jazz to get 224 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: up and go clean the scrubbers or churn the micoprotein vats. 225 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: Every time we put down the bridge to the big 226 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: Island and turned off our moat, I felt everything go 227 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: sour inside me, and my heart went funnel shaped. People 228 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: sometimes just wandered away from the wrong headed community without 229 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: much in the way of goodbye. That was how Julia 230 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: had gone. But meanwhile new people showed up and got 231 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: the exact same welcome that everyone had given to me. 232 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: I got freaked out thinking of my perfect home being 233 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: overrun by new selfish, blowed fuckers. Joconda had to sit 234 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: me down at the big table where seated all the 235 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: official business, tell me to get over myself, because change 236 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: was the ocean and we lived on her mercy. Seriously, Chris, 237 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: I ever see that look on your face, I'm going 238 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: to throw you in the microvap myself. You'll kinda stared 239 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: at me until I started laughing. And promised to get 240 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: with the program. Then one day I was sitting at 241 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: her big table, overlooking the streets between us and the 242 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: Big Island, staring at Sutro Tower and the taller buildings 243 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: poking out of the water here and there, and this 244 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: obnoxious skinny bitch sat down next to me, chewing in 245 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: my ear and talking about the impudence of impermanence or 246 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: some similar Miranda. She introduced herself. I just came up 247 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: from anheim. Diego, geez, what a mess they actually think 248 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: they could build nanomex and make it scalable. What a 249 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: bunch of poutines. Stop chewing in my ear, I muttered. 250 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: But then I found myself following her around everywhere she went. 251 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Miranda was the one who convinced me to dive into 252 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: the chasm of Fillmore Street in search of a souvenir 253 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: from the old Church of John Coltrane as a present 254 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: for Yoconda. I strapped on some goggles and a big 255 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: apparatus that fed me oxygen while also helping me navigate 256 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: a little bit, and then we went out in a 257 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: dinghy that looked old enough that someone had actually used 258 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: it for fishing. Miranda gave me one of her crooked 259 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: grins and studied a wrinkled old map. I think it's 260 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: right around here, she laughed. Either that of the Korean 261 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: barbecue restaurant where the mayor got assassinated at one time, 262 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: not super clear which is which. I gave her a 263 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: murderous look and jumped into the water, letting myself fall 264 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: into the street at the speed of water resistance. Those 265 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: sunken buildings turned into doorways and windows facing me, but 266 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: they stayed blurry as the bilge flowed around them. I 267 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: could barely find my feet, let alone identify a building 268 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: on site. One of these places had been a restaurant, 269 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: I was pretty sure. Ancient automobiles lurched back and forth 270 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: like maybe even their brakes had rusted away. I figured 271 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: the Church of John Coltrane would have a spire like 272 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: a saxophone maybe, but all the buildings looked exactly the same. 273 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: I stumbled down the street until I saw something that 274 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: looked like a church, but it was a caved in 275 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: old McDonald's restaurant. Then I tripped over something, a down 276 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: pole or whatever, and my face mask cracked. As I 277 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: went down. The water was going down, my throat tasting 278 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: like dirt, and my vision when all pale and wavy. 279 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: I almost just went under, but then I thought I 280 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: could see a light up there, way above the street, 281 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: and I kicked. I kicked and chopped and made myself float. 282 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: I churned up there until I broke the surface. My 283 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: arms were thrashing above the water, and I started to 284 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: go back down, but Miranda had my neck and one shoulder. 285 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: She hauled me up and out of the water and 286 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: threw me into the dinghy. I was gasping and heaving 287 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: up water, and she sat and laughed at me. You 288 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: managed to gavege something, after all. She pointed to something 289 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: I'd clutched out on my way up out of the water, 290 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: a rusted, barbed old piece of a car. I'm sure 291 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: Yokando will love it, oh, I said, Fuck old San Francisco. 292 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: It's gross and corroded and there's nothing left of whatever 293 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: used to be cool. But hey, I'm glad I found 294 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: a group of people I would risk drowning in dead 295 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: water for. And do you know who would risk drowning 296 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: for you? Who cares so much about you that they're 297 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: willing to die for you. No, it's not religion, it's 298 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: the products and services that support this podcast. That's Who 299 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: and We're back four. I chose to see that as 300 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: a special status. Miranda had the kind of long limbed, 301 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: snaggled beauty that made you think she was born to 302 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: make trouble. She loved a roughhouse and usually ended up 303 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: with her elbow on the back of my neck as 304 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: she pushed me into the dry dirt. She loved to 305 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: invent cute and salting nicknames for me, like Dolly Press 306 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: or pre ridiculous. She never got tired of reminding me 307 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: that I might be a ninth level gender freak, but 308 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: I had all kinds of privilege because I grew up 309 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: in Fairbanks and never had to wonder how we were 310 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: going to eat. Miranda had this way of making me 311 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: laugh even when the news got scary. When the government 312 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: back in Fairbanks was trying to re establish control over 313 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: the whole West Coast and extinction rose up like the 314 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: shadows at the bottom of the sea, I would start 315 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: to feel that scab inside my stomach, like the whole, ugly, 316 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: unforgiving world could come down on us and our tiny 317 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: island sanctuary. At any moment. Miranda would suddenly start making 318 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: up a weird dancer inventing a motto for a team 319 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: of superhuman mosquitoes, And then I would be laughing so 320 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: hard that it was like I was squeezing the fear 321 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: out of my insides. Her hand were a massive scar tissue, 322 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: but they were as gentle as dried up blades of 323 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: grass on my thighs. Miranda had five other lovers, but 324 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: I was the only one she made fun of. I 325 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: chose to see that as a special status five What 326 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: are you people even about? Falling in love with the 327 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 1: community is always going to be more real than any 328 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: love for a single human could ever be. People will 329 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: let you down, shatter your image of them, or try 330 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: to melt down the wall between your self image and theirs. 331 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: People one at a time are too messy. Miranda was 332 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: my hero and the lover I pretty much dreamed of 333 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: since both puberties, but I also saved pieces of my 334 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: heart for a bunch of other wrongheaded people. I loved 335 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Yocanda's totally random inspirations and perversions. Like all the art projects, 336 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: see started getting me to build out of scraps by 337 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: the Sunken City. After I brought back that car piece 338 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: from Fillmore Street, Zell was this hyperactive kid with wild 339 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: half braids. Why this whole theory about digging up buried 340 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: hard drives full of music files from the digital age 341 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: so we could reconstruct the actual sounds of Marvin Gay 342 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: and the Jenga priests. Wao used to sit with me 343 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: and watch the sunset going down over the islands. We 344 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: didn't talk a lot, except that Wao would suddenly whisper 345 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: some weird, beautiful notion about what it would be like 346 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: to live at sea one day when the sea was 347 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: alive again. But it wasn't any individual, it was the 348 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: whole group. We had gotten in a rhythm together, and 349 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: we all believed the same stuff, the love of the 350 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: ocean and her resilience in the face of whatever we 351 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: had done to her, and the power of silliness to 352 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: make you believe in abundance again, openness, and a kind 353 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: of generosity that is the opposite of monogamy. But then 354 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: one day I looked up and some of the faces 355 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: were different again. A few of my favorite people in 356 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: the community had bugged out without saying anything, and one 357 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 1: or two the newcomers started getting on my nerves. One person, 358 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: Mage just had a nasty temper going off at anyone 359 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: who crossed her path. Whenever z was in one of 360 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: those moods, and you could usually tell from the unruly 361 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: condition of Mage's bleach blonde hair and broke tooth scowl. 362 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: Mage became one of Miranda's lovers right off the bat. 363 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: Of course, I was just sitting on my hands and 364 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: biting my tongue, reminding myself that I always hated change, 365 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: and I always got used to it after a little while. 366 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: This would be fine. Change was the ocean, and she 367 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: took care of us. Then we discovered the spoilage. We 368 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: had been filtering the ocean water, removing toxic waste, filtering 369 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: out excess gunk, and putting some of the organic byproducts 370 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: into our micoprotein vats as a feedstock. But one day 371 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: we opened the biggest vat and the stench was so 372 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: powerful we all started to cry and wretch, and we 373 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: kept crying even after the puking stopped. Shit that was 374 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: half our food supply. It looked like our whole filtration 375 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: system was off. There were remnants of bucket struck and 376 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,679 Speaker 1: the residue we've been feeding to our fungus, and the 377 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: fungus was choking on them. Even the fungus that wasn't 378 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: spoiled would have minimal protein yield. And this all meant 379 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: that our filtration system wasn't doing anything to help clean 380 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: the ocean at all, because it was still letting the 381 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: dead pieces of bucky crap through. Yokanda just stared at 382 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: the mess and finally shook her head and told us 383 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: to bury it under the big hillside. And that's where 384 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna leave it for this week, Hazel says about it. 385 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: Hazel's the person who helps me pick stories. Hazel says, quote. 386 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: I first read this story maybe a year and a 387 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: half ago, and the way that Charlie writes about finding 388 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: your people and it just clicking is so real, Like 389 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: it feels like you've always been this way but didn't 390 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: have words, And that's stuck with me ever since. And 391 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: the flip side waking up one day to find that 392 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: the people you loved are gone and replaced by people 393 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: you don't. The specific combination of annoyance, nostalgia and trying 394 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: to hold onto the community that you fell in love 395 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: with is just so gripping and honestly, yeah, that's what 396 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: gets at me about this story too, like, I haven't 397 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: quite been in exactly this wild subculture, but I've been 398 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: in some wild subcultures where it just feels like, you know, 399 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: this is it, this is my family, this is what 400 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing, this is everything you know, and how that 401 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: changes and how shocking it is. And I really like 402 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: how it ties that into this change of the world itself, right, 403 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: because we're living in this world and it's so hard 404 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: not to have in this intense grief for what's happening 405 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: to the climate, and the microcosm of that happening in 406 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: like a subculture that's changing kind of almost helps me 407 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: handle climate grief, right, because I've survived waking up and 408 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: finding out that the micoprotein is changed, and you know, 409 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: the person I'm seeing it was five other lovers takes 410 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: on a sixth tho I don't like and all of 411 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: that stuff, and I've survived that. I don't know that 412 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: we're going to sort of climate change, but it's still like, 413 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: on some gut level that's reassuring. I don't know. I 414 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: find it interesting, I find it beautiful. But we're only 415 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: halfway through the story because next week we'll finish it 416 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: to hear how our wrongheaded commune deals with losing their 417 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: food production. This has been the first part of Because 418 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: change was the ocean and we lived by her Mercy 419 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: by Charlie Jane Anders. Her latest book is called Lessons 420 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: in Magic and Disaster. It's an adult novel about a 421 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: young scholar who teaches her mother to be a witch. 422 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: You can keep up with her work at her newsletter 423 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: called Happy Dancing, which you can find at Buttondown dot 424 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: com slash Charlie Jane. Charlie has won the Hugo, Nebula, Sturgeon, Lambda, 425 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: Literary Crawford, and Locus Awards. She co created Escapade, a 426 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: transgender superhero for Marvel Comics, and wrote her into the 427 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: long running New Mutants comic, and she's currently the science 428 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: fiction and fantasy book reviewer for The Washington Post with 429 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: Annelie Wentz. 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