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Speaker 4: Welcome to pumpin Packs segment where I opened an old

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Speaker 4: Ralph Sampson, All the Famer. Ralph Sampson. Welcome to the

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Speaker 4: No Dunes Podcast. Welcome to Popping Packs.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me and nice to

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Speaker 4: What the Rockets playing tonight against the Lakers? What are

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Speaker 5: But great guy, great stories, a fun guy to be around.

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Speaker 3: He was never angry.

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Speaker 4: Man, Georgia Tech, Georgia Tech Star there, Kenny Ensen. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Because you know for when I look at it, you

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Speaker 5: So it was a play. The Lakers didn't put anybody

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Speaker 5: This game seven there with myself and kame foulling out

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Speaker 3: They were sit there waiting for us, and they handled us, you.

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Speaker 3: You know, if we'd have lost that game when I

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Speaker 5: You're lucky that you didn't have to go and travel,

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Speaker 5: I've seen him a couple of times in different events

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Speaker 5: You end up getting mad and retooling and going back

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Speaker 3: Then you want two championships in a row. So I'd

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Speaker 5: But you know, Lakers were dominated back then, and you

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Speaker 2: Uh he was.

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Speaker 4: He's become a Hall of Famer himself since then. But

447
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Speaker 4: he was the tough point guy from the Philadelphia seventy

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Speaker 3: All right, I brought him up into my Hall of

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Speaker 5: Would have to be either Charles Barkley, Bill Russell, which

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Speaker 5: We've we've gotten very close over the years, and H

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463
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Speaker 3: But then over the years, as you see him and

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Speaker 5: We built a relationship after after basketball with the Hall

467
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Speaker 2: Okay, this next one.

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Speaker 4: So this is kind of ironic because you were the

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Speaker 4: NBA All Star Game MVP in nine eighty five, and

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Speaker 4: then two years later in nineteen eighty seven, you were

543
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544
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545
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546
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Speaker 4: First player ever as a replacement player to go on

547
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Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell him what I said. I said, you

550
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551
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552
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553
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Speaker 3: Tom Chambers. I got injured and I could.

554
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Speaker 5: Not play, and then he got selected to play and

555
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 5: played very well when MVP. So can jump out of

556
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Speaker 5: the gym, shoot the ball. Great person. Uh you know,

557
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Speaker 5: hard working. I mean you see some highlights when you're

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Speaker 5: the gym for a wake guy. He could jump, So

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Ays, I always wondered about that, you know, with the

563
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Speaker 4: MVP trophy, if you called him up and said half

564
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Speaker 4: of that should be coming to me here.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, you know, he owned me that trophy for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this next guy was he was a backup center

568
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Speaker 4: in Houston for you guys, and I think he was

569
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Speaker 4: a rookie in nineteen eighty six, I believe, and now

570
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Speaker 4: he's the color commentator for the Minnesota Timberwolves. He's been

571
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Speaker 4: there for quite a few years. He went on also

572
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Speaker 4: to play with the Warriors later for his career. He

573
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Speaker 4: was a big guy, about six ten, six eleven. I

574
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Speaker 4: think he was out out of Minnesota and he was drugh.

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Speaker 3: He went to NISY of Minnesota, graduated there.

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Speaker 5: We got him in Houston for a STANTEI with a

577
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Speaker 5: backup center, and then I actually played with him against

578
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Speaker 5: the second one of Kings and won. But you're talking

579
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Speaker 5: about mister Jim Peterson, another good friend of mine, A

580
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Speaker 5: great guy, and he's a unique player and worked hard

581
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Speaker 5: and had a great career.

582
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Speaker 4: Yeah he's Yeah, I remember I remember that game again

583
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: where you know, King gets a Kame gets ejected for

584
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 4: going at Mitch Kuffjack and Jim Peterson I think comes

585
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Speaker 4: out to have to take those minutes.

586
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Speaker 2: It's a big challenge for a young guy out there.

587
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Speaker 3: He did that.

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 4: This other guy he was inducted the same the same

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Speaker 4: year you were in twenty twelve, shop shooting God out

592
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Speaker 4: of Indiana. I only played for one team. He's out

593
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Speaker 4: of California. There you got ready.

594
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Speaker 3: Yeah, one of the best.

595
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Speaker 5: Shooters in the game of basketball, had the funky, is

596
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Speaker 5: looking jump shot. The only better shooting than him with

597
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Speaker 5: his sister Sheryl. So really sure we used to take

598
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Speaker 5: Reggie's tail. But Rag a great person, commentates in the

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Speaker 5: n B A and you still l a great And

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Speaker 5: you know, I think I only remember the game when

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Speaker 5: Spike Lee was heckling in the salon and Reggia score

602
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Speaker 5: like nine points in thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: So Miller is one of the best, one of the

604
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Speaker 3: best shooters ever in the NBA.

605
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Speaker 4: Was He said on the broadcast the week or so

606
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Speaker 4: ago that given the rules today, that he thinks he

607
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 4: could average forty five points a game in the current NBA.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 5: Well, now you quitbely could but you know, because you

610
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Speaker 5: get to shoot it. And he didn't have great point

611
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Speaker 5: guard handles. But I'm sure he could have worked on

612
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Speaker 5: that and got better at it. But I mean the

613
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Speaker 5: way he shot the ball when he played, he would

614
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Speaker 5: definitely average over thirty night. I mean guarantee you all

615
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Speaker 5: they're doing shooting threes. I mean he played in the

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Speaker 5: Houston Washington today and all you're.

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Speaker 3: Shooting is threes. I mean, he ain't nothing but Regie Miller.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a couple more to go here.

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Speaker 4: This guy's probably your biggest college rival out there in Georgetown.

620
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 4: You had a great battle against each other. You know,

621
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Speaker 4: everyone remembers that from the college days and then of

622
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Speaker 4: course into.

623
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Speaker 2: The NBA there for a few years as well.

624
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Speaker 4: But the big man out of Georgetown, Legendary Nicks later

625
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626
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Speaker 4: but everyone remembers him as as missed the New York Nick.

627
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Speaker 3: That's Patrick, I mean the one only Patrick going. I mean,

628
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Speaker 3: you know, so he's a great, great guy.

629
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Speaker 5: And we chatted for over the last couple days doing

630
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Speaker 5: to the passing of coaches Legendary and John Thompson. Rest

631
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,880
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632
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Speaker 5: We played in college against each other, played the NBA

633
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Speaker 5: against each other. Now the coach at Doristown electronk there,

634
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Speaker 5: but uh, it is no other better.

635
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Speaker 3: Than Patrick Ewings.

636
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, it's great.

637
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Speaker 4: The uh the robbery you guys had in college basketball

638
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Speaker 4: and then uh you know what was it like, how

639
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Speaker 4: different was it when you get to the NBA? You know,

640
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Speaker 4: there's the bigger spotlight and there's more media attention that

641
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Speaker 4: you know when you guys go against each other. How

642
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Speaker 4: different is the atmosphere in an NBA court compared to

643
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Speaker 4: a college court.

644
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Speaker 5: Well, no, you know, and back then we play only

645
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Speaker 5: one time in college, the Game of the Century, So

646
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 5: it was hyped up for you know, for months and

647
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Speaker 5: month and months. There was a lot of media and

648
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Speaker 5: you have to understand there with no social media guesps

649
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650
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Speaker 5: the Odel, so there wasn't any of the hype that

651
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Speaker 5: you would get today for like that, And I don't

652
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Speaker 5: think there would be any games like that again where

653
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Speaker 5: you got two college dominant players being able to play

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Speaker 5: against each other, because you'll have you know, rookies, freshmen

655
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Speaker 5: going to once.

656
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Speaker 3: In the NBA the next year. So but college, the

657
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Speaker 3: NBA transition, you play, especially in New York and a mecca.

658
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Speaker 3: I mean, but you're playing so many times of the year.

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Speaker 3: We go to New York one s, they come to

660
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Speaker 3: us one, so you don't play as much.

661
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Speaker 5: But then every night you're playing against somebody, so not

662
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Speaker 5: as much hype from the Game of the century there.

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Speaker 3: But still going to New York if you want to

664
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Speaker 3: play your best, so you don't want to get killed

665
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Speaker 3: in New York. The media will kill you in New York.

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Speaker 3: And we won some, he won some.

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Speaker 5: So both have great careers you know in the NBA

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Speaker 5: and now Hall of Famers as well.

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Speaker 4: Awesome, great, Okay, this next guy, he was another a

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Speaker 4: legend when you entered the league.

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Speaker 2: He was an MVP, multiple time MVP.

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Speaker 4: He's no longer with its, sadly, but he was an

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Speaker 4: undersized center for Houston Rockets. He played for the Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: seventy Six's. Later in his career he went to Atlanta

675
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Speaker 4: and Washington as well. But you remember him for in

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Speaker 4: the Houston Rockets. Uh and the Philadelphia seventy six is

677
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: I think were his two best teams. Big guy used

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Speaker 4: to wear the goggles, but under sized, an incredible scorer,

679
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Speaker 4: great footworker.

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00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 2: Came olage One. Used to talk about how he had

681
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Speaker 2: great footwork.

682
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: His gout. Yeah, he talked, came olaje One.

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Speaker 5: The game of basketball down and he saw Peter Berg

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Speaker 5: hell from petersburgers in. But mister Moses Malone, great friend,

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Speaker 5: rest in peace. I was with him the night before

686
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Speaker 5: he passed away at the Hall of Fame. Very funny

687
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Speaker 5: guy and we work out together going on trips in

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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame or golf events. One of the

689
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: hardest nosed players you ever want to come across with.

690
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 5: Throw the ball off the rim, be open and get

691
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Speaker 5: the left throw the ball to get him to patter

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Speaker 5: his rebounds and get twenty rebounds to night.

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Speaker 3: But you know special special person again, you know that

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Speaker 3: Tardy Kimlin on pretty much the game of.

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Speaker 5: Basketball, the mister one on the Moses Malone helding him

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Speaker 5: from Petersburger and there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, nice fun. Yeah, it's okay. Two more to

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Speaker 2: go here.

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Speaker 4: This guy is another center who came out around eighty

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Speaker 4: seven out of North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: He was very well known for being a big passing,

702
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Speaker 2: a passing center.

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00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: Spent in his career with the Cleveland Cavaliers, made a

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Speaker 4: couple of All Star Games.

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Speaker 2: He we could shoot the mid ranger as well.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, U n c out of he came in

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Speaker 4: the came out of the drop in ninety six for

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Speaker 4: the Cavaliers.

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Speaker 3: Become with Brad Dougherty, Brad Dorty age.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, mister Brad Daugherty himself big, big body, big center.

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00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: I mean played on that team with actually mister Jordan's

712
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 5: he's thrown him with shallow mister craig Elo. But Brad

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Speaker 5: and peg Elo and Larry Nance and Mark Price. Great team,

714
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 5: great career. Now you know Brad is really high in

715
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 5: on the drag car racing stuff as well. But you

716
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 5: know North Carolina great. Uh, you know, just a really

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Speaker 5: good guy. Actually, have him up here on my on

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Speaker 5: my board. I have a board here in my in

719
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Speaker 5: my office. I got some of the number one picks.

720
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Speaker 5: But that's mister braddaughty right there. I had the number

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Speaker 5: one pick in his car.

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Speaker 3: So good guy.

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Speaker 2: That's that's cool that you got that that stuff there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the last the last one here.

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Speaker 4: I believe this guy was in your draft class there

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Speaker 4: in eighty three out of Rutgers University, played for the

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Speaker 4: New Jersey Netsy Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Speaker 2: He was a scorer, like a sort of small forward guy.

729
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 4: Not really powerful, but he had a nice little jump

730
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Speaker 4: shot on him for his career. And yeah, Cleveland, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 4: New Jersey nineteen eighty three round, first round pick, number

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Speaker 4: number twenty. He was at the number twenty pick. He

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Speaker 4: wore number twenty three question.

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Speaker 5: Number twenty pick in the nineteen eighty three droughts that's

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Speaker 5: my draft year.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, number twenty pick. I have to go back

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Speaker 3: to my archive. Now, that's a tough one for me

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Speaker 3: right now. The number twentyth pick in the NBA rep

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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 5: Royson Roy hitson Okay Henson jumping Roy Henson. You can

741
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Speaker 5: get up off the ground. What six eighty sixty nine,

742
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Speaker 5: you know, small power, small fork power for it. But

743
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: great guy as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Well, that's that's quite a good pack

745
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Speaker 2: we had there, Ralph.

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Speaker 4: I love hearing some of those old stories there, you know,

747
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 4: it's it's great because of course the Rockets were such

748
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: a big team there in the late dadies at that

749
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Speaker 4: big upset and now it's ironic that the Rockets and

750
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Speaker 4: the Lakers are playing right now. So I'm very honestly

751
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Speaker 4: you join me on this today and it was a

752
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Speaker 4: lot of fun for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, you were at the game and the

755
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Speaker 5: Lakers and when you call pass cross, we didn't know it.

756
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: But now you have your show. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 5: We have our podcast called Center Court Podcast fifties said,

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00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 5: I might check that out sign up for We just

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00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 5: finished taking some shows today that will be really exciting.

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Speaker 3: More to come with that. My co ho Jason's on

761
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Speaker 3: Fisher out there and the team we have that helps

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Speaker 3: put that together. But thank you for having me and

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Speaker 3: let's do it again.

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Speaker 2: Money of the days, anytime.

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Speaker 3: I'll be, I'll do to revers. I'll give you some

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Speaker 3: some names.

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Speaker 5: I got a whole of the cards up here, I

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Speaker 5: got ye here, I got high, but they got some money.

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Speaker 3: I could show you and you can I can stump

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Speaker 3: you right. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I would love to take on that challenge. That would

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Speaker 2: be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, thank you to Jason Fisher of course for

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Speaker 4: helping connect this here.

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Speaker 2: That was that was very good of him.

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Speaker 4: And thank you best of luck with your podcast as well,

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Speaker 4: and thank you again for your time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Have a great day. Stay safe

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Speaker 3: right there, you tea