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Speaker 1: School of Humans. Hello, Welcome to another episode of Cadaver Gals.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we talk about all the

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Speaker 1: ways people have died throughout history so that we can

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Speaker 1: cope with our own mortality. Does it work Nope? But

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Speaker 1: here we are. I am one of your host Gabby,

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Speaker 1: along with Nika Hi. Hello, he and Taylor. Hi. It's

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Speaker 1: me and the helicopter above me right now. Well, I

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Speaker 1: sent them over to you. I'm delivering you a package,

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Speaker 1: a helicopter package. That's crap at all. No, it's normal.

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Speaker 1: That's what I do for my friends, in the service

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Speaker 1: of others is how I live my life. Nika cackles.

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Speaker 1: Today on the show, we are going to go down

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Speaker 1: a wild ride featuring murder and poisoning. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: so fun. And then we're also gonna hear about how

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Speaker 1: the Vikings may or may not have had the best teeth. There.

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Speaker 1: There's a death in there. I promise, I promise people

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Speaker 1: are gonna be dying in this episode. Okay, we have

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Speaker 1: some trigger warnings dentistry, murder, poisoning your body doing crazy

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Speaker 1: things when it gets poisoned, snakes, abortion, hot dudes who

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Speaker 1: are Vikings, and also maybe ugly dudes who are Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Um not saying that all Vikings were dudes. I'm just saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be a full Chris hymns Worth

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Speaker 1: or only type of Viking thing. Okay. So yeah, cue

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Speaker 1: the musac. Oh wow, wasn't the music as fine as

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Speaker 1: it always is? We all just had fun. We're having

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Speaker 1: a good time. Ye and Nika is going to start

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Speaker 1: off the show today telling us some really wild shit.

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Speaker 1: I read a little bit about it, but it was confusing.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited that you're here to explain all the

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Speaker 1: twists and turns. Take us down this wild mountain road.

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Speaker 1: Zag dude. Oh yes, okay, I had some banana bread

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Speaker 1: this morning, so I am feeling good, feeling fresh, feeling sugar, sweating, sweating, sweating.

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Speaker 1: Let's do that, the sweating, sweating. We're ready. Okay, So today,

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Speaker 1: so excited. So today we're going to Cambridge, England to

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Speaker 1: Queen Yes, yes, literally Queen. She needs to be dethroned. Okay,

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Speaker 1: to meet Walter Horsepord, who was killed in eighteen ninety eight. Okay,

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Speaker 1: not nineteen eighty nine like Taylor Swift eighteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: but he was no victim, you guys. In fact, he

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Speaker 1: was actually the opposite of victim. What's the opposite of

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Speaker 1: a victim? Okay, okay, We've got some different ideas and

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Speaker 1: what a victim is, So here we go. Walter was

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Speaker 1: a pretty well off farmer living in the small village

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Speaker 1: very very small. It now has a population of a

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Speaker 1: whopping six hundred and thirty one people or villagers as

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Speaker 1: sure back then it was even like much much much less.

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Speaker 1: So he's twenty six, you know, living his quaint village

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Speaker 1: life as a villager. Idea of a villager is just

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Speaker 1: so cute to me. And but he was not cute. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I guess he was because he fucked. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but it seems you don't have to be cute to fuck.

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Speaker 1: You can be right, you can be looking like an

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Speaker 1: alligator and be fucking. You know, you can have that

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Speaker 1: about is to someone that alligator is cute? You know,

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Speaker 1: so he is still cute or she or you know,

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Speaker 1: as Okay, but Walter, he's you know, he's not Nica's

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Speaker 1: cup of tea, because Nica prefers a cappuccino tea. I

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Speaker 1: gotcha fancy lattes? Cafine? No, I actually usually just go

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Speaker 1: don't ever like, yeah, don't gaslight me. I've seen your Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I've seen the pics of the latte art. Okay, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: that was like six years ago, but whatever. Anyway, Um,

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Speaker 1: don't instagram lattes anymore. Okay, sorry, and actually I still do.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, get on with it. I'm on it.

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Speaker 1: he was living his quaint village life, and it seems

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Speaker 1: Annie Holmes. Yes, Annie was a widow. She was thirty eight,

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Speaker 1: marries his other cousin, Bessie Mash on October eighteen ninety seven. Right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the name Bessie Mash. Really, I'm going to rename myself

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Speaker 1: the villagers cousins. It was just like, honestly, maybe, but

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Speaker 1: led to a pregnancy. Yes, shortly after wedding. Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: Annie hits Walter up in December and tells him that

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Speaker 1: But it's still going and doing who knows what with

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Speaker 1: other cousins. It's more like hoomps knows what hoomps toomps. No,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't work because it's old, end times. Womps snows

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Speaker 1: what thank you? Thank you? Gabby post concussion, Gabby is

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Speaker 1: still just surprising me every day. So fresh, it's still fresh. Um.

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Speaker 1: So obviously he's in a pickle. He doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: So they communicate via letters right again, this the nineteenth century,

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Speaker 1: and he sends Annie a letter telling her that they

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Speaker 1: can figure this out and it's fine. He has literally

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Speaker 1: just like okay, so like a toad, No, a frog,

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Speaker 1: this was a financial situation. Okay, it's cousins supporting cousins

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Speaker 1: it's just your cousins, only cousins. You went to college

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Speaker 1: They'll never know exactly. Yes, So Annie tells Walter that

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Speaker 1: So good, they're all in agreement, right, this should be

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Speaker 1: to teach you all something. Can you listen? Anyway? That

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Speaker 1: But they would never say, you know, abortion or anything.

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Speaker 1: do that. But instead he got ninety grains of strychnine,

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Speaker 1: So listen. So Walter buys the strickneine, signs his name

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Speaker 1: So like the pain is like it's not only painful,

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Speaker 1: like your weekly church gathering would be you know, they'd

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Speaker 1: be talking in tongues, they would be doing the if

417
00:25:36,645 --> 00:25:38,885
Speaker 1: you're really imagining like a scene from True Blood with

418
00:25:38,925 --> 00:25:40,525
Speaker 1: like religion, you know, it's kind of it was like that,

419
00:25:40,645 --> 00:25:42,885
Speaker 1: like the fundamentalists like out in their little tints and

420
00:25:42,965 --> 00:25:46,605
Speaker 1: like handling their snakes and shit. Okay, but then he

421
00:25:46,645 --> 00:25:48,965
Speaker 1: did die in nineteen fifty five from a snake bite,

422
00:25:49,005 --> 00:25:52,645
Speaker 1: so you know, it'd be like that. The snakes that

423
00:25:52,685 --> 00:25:55,125
Speaker 1: they usually use in these or they have like rattlesnakes,

424
00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:58,005
Speaker 1: caught mouse, copper heads, any type of nimis snake that

425
00:25:58,045 --> 00:26:03,045
Speaker 1: could kill you if it takes a chomp. And usually

426
00:26:03,125 --> 00:26:06,325
Speaker 1: at the service, members of the congregation they're allowed to

427
00:26:06,445 --> 00:26:08,445
Speaker 1: pick up a snake. You know, people bring their own

428
00:26:08,445 --> 00:26:11,605
Speaker 1: snakes or you know, certain people bring snakes and then

429
00:26:11,605 --> 00:26:14,645
Speaker 1: they let it crawl over their body, snakes that are

430
00:26:14,645 --> 00:26:17,125
Speaker 1: supposed to represent the demons and the devil. And if

431
00:26:17,125 --> 00:26:19,125
Speaker 1: you don't get bit that shows that you have power

432
00:26:19,205 --> 00:26:21,645
Speaker 1: over the demons. But then if you do get bit,

433
00:26:21,685 --> 00:26:23,925
Speaker 1: it's a sign from the Lord that you know your

434
00:26:24,125 --> 00:26:30,445
Speaker 1: your faith is bad. Okay, so so so dumb. And

435
00:26:30,485 --> 00:26:33,325
Speaker 1: then on principle, they don't get medical treatment for their

436
00:26:33,365 --> 00:26:35,965
Speaker 1: bites because you know, it's up to God's will. You know,

437
00:26:36,085 --> 00:26:39,405
Speaker 1: if you seek medical treatment for your bite, your faith

438
00:26:39,525 --> 00:26:42,805
Speaker 1: is weak, my dude. Okay, Yeah, that's like they're not

439
00:26:42,845 --> 00:26:46,685
Speaker 1: trusting God to fix them. Yeah, and then that's when

440
00:26:46,685 --> 00:26:48,965
Speaker 1: you can sort of level up your experience. While you're

441
00:26:49,005 --> 00:26:53,085
Speaker 1: handling a snake, you could also be taken some poison,

442
00:26:53,405 --> 00:26:57,085
Speaker 1: and strictnine is usually the poison of choice that has

443
00:26:57,125 --> 00:27:00,205
Speaker 1: been used. Love to see it. People will just be

444
00:27:00,325 --> 00:27:03,365
Speaker 1: up there, you know, handling some Minimus snakes, drinking some strictnine,

445
00:27:03,485 --> 00:27:08,405
Speaker 1: you know, strictneine milkshake. Yeah. And since this sort of

446
00:27:08,445 --> 00:27:12,205
Speaker 1: started in the early nineteen hundreds with mister George, anywhere

447
00:27:12,285 --> 00:27:15,125
Speaker 1: from sixty to one hundred people have died from snake

448
00:27:15,165 --> 00:27:21,325
Speaker 1: bites during a service. That's a very very bad yeah, yeah,

449
00:27:21,365 --> 00:27:23,805
Speaker 1: but it's also interesting like thinking about strictin like if

450
00:27:23,805 --> 00:27:26,565
Speaker 1: you're kind of thinking about like with Nika describing what

451
00:27:26,645 --> 00:27:29,005
Speaker 1: happens with it, it does fit in kind of with

452
00:27:29,045 --> 00:27:32,165
Speaker 1: this like fundamentalist vision of you know, people talking speaking

453
00:27:32,165 --> 00:27:34,085
Speaker 1: in tongues and stuff like that, because you like start

454
00:27:34,125 --> 00:27:37,365
Speaker 1: convulsing and having these spasms and like your back gets

455
00:27:37,525 --> 00:27:40,165
Speaker 1: arched and stuff. So you know, kind of that that

456
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:43,765
Speaker 1: Hollywood cinematic sort of speaking tongues thing. I mean, this

457
00:27:43,805 --> 00:27:46,285
Speaker 1: applies to it. Like it makes a sense. You're like, oh, yeah,

458
00:27:46,325 --> 00:27:49,325
Speaker 1: they're convulsing because they're taking poison, but they think it's

459
00:27:49,365 --> 00:27:53,765
Speaker 1: like the spirit of the Lord entering into them or something. Right, Well,

460
00:27:53,765 --> 00:27:55,565
Speaker 1: it's like the Lord's going to protect you. So if

461
00:27:55,605 --> 00:27:58,725
Speaker 1: you take poison, then like God's going to protect you

462
00:27:58,805 --> 00:28:00,925
Speaker 1: from dying. You know, that's kind of like the idea

463
00:28:00,965 --> 00:28:03,045
Speaker 1: and if you die your faith is weak or like

464
00:28:03,125 --> 00:28:06,045
Speaker 1: you know, God's like as your time. So one of

465
00:28:06,085 --> 00:28:11,405
Speaker 1: the most famous UH serpent handlers was mac Woolford. He

466
00:28:11,565 --> 00:28:15,165
Speaker 1: preached and handled snakes all over West Virginia, and he

467
00:28:15,245 --> 00:28:18,245
Speaker 1: claimed to have been bitten by snakes three hundred times

468
00:28:18,965 --> 00:28:21,365
Speaker 1: and He has also claimed to have drunk at least

469
00:28:21,445 --> 00:28:25,645
Speaker 1: two gallons of strychnine good Lord in his life. He

470
00:28:25,685 --> 00:28:29,325
Speaker 1: did die in twenty twelve from a snake bite though, okay,

471
00:28:29,365 --> 00:28:33,005
Speaker 1: so and also he just took the right snake. It

472
00:28:33,125 --> 00:28:35,165
Speaker 1: just took. And also the snake was though a snake

473
00:28:35,205 --> 00:28:37,565
Speaker 1: that he had, like it was a snake that he

474
00:28:37,605 --> 00:28:39,925
Speaker 1: had like brought with him, you know, his little tours,

475
00:28:40,045 --> 00:28:43,205
Speaker 1: this little pet snake. Yeah, his little pet snake, and

476
00:28:43,245 --> 00:28:48,285
Speaker 1: its name was Old Yeller. He named a snake Old Yeller.

477
00:28:49,285 --> 00:28:52,805
Speaker 1: Then he was like, I'm gonna kill you now. Okay.

478
00:28:52,885 --> 00:29:00,245
Speaker 1: So the snakes are they represent the devil but like demons, demons,

479
00:29:01,245 --> 00:29:03,125
Speaker 1: and so he's just got them as pets. He's got

480
00:29:03,165 --> 00:29:04,885
Speaker 1: like a bunch of pet demons. That's what he thinks.

481
00:29:04,885 --> 00:29:08,045
Speaker 1: And he's just like, you know, it's just so dumb.

482
00:29:08,085 --> 00:29:09,805
Speaker 1: I just care. Maybe he likes it because like he

483
00:29:09,845 --> 00:29:13,245
Speaker 1: has dominion over them, but clearly not because it killed him.

484
00:29:13,565 --> 00:29:17,205
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's like they, yeah, they represent demons,

485
00:29:17,245 --> 00:29:19,325
Speaker 1: and if they don't kill you, then you have power

486
00:29:19,405 --> 00:29:22,685
Speaker 1: over the demons. But it's not a metaphor. It's just

487
00:29:22,765 --> 00:29:27,325
Speaker 1: like literally you have power over snakes. Yeah, but old

488
00:29:27,405 --> 00:29:30,245
Speaker 1: Yeller bit him on his thigh and he died eight

489
00:29:30,285 --> 00:29:34,925
Speaker 1: hours later, and he refused medical treatment until the very end.

490
00:29:35,125 --> 00:29:38,285
Speaker 1: He was like sure, but then he died at the hospital,

491
00:29:38,365 --> 00:29:42,245
Speaker 1: so I guess his faith was weak. I feel like

492
00:29:42,805 --> 00:29:45,965
Speaker 1: doctor's near the West Virginia location where they're at, like

493
00:29:46,005 --> 00:29:49,045
Speaker 1: if they ever do receive you know, these snake bites

494
00:29:49,045 --> 00:29:51,045
Speaker 1: and stuff must be so annoyed because they're just like,

495
00:29:51,045 --> 00:29:54,845
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, these these people again like well, I've

496
00:29:54,845 --> 00:29:56,925
Speaker 1: read said, yeah, I mean I've read some articles and

497
00:29:56,965 --> 00:30:01,405
Speaker 1: it seems like, I mean you would think obviously this

498
00:30:01,485 --> 00:30:04,645
Speaker 1: is very like fanatical and bizarre and weird, but it

499
00:30:04,725 --> 00:30:06,645
Speaker 1: just sort of like eating about these people. I mean,

500
00:30:06,645 --> 00:30:09,805
Speaker 1: they still they don't like some journalists who have like,

501
00:30:09,845 --> 00:30:12,285
Speaker 1: you know, done documentaries. They're like, I mean, they're not

502
00:30:12,325 --> 00:30:15,285
Speaker 1: the weirdest people, you know, They're just like, who are

503
00:30:15,325 --> 00:30:18,925
Speaker 1: the weirdest people? Then that I guess, yeah, who, maybe Walter,

504
00:30:19,125 --> 00:30:21,365
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe yeah, I don't know. So I

505
00:30:21,405 --> 00:30:24,365
Speaker 1: don't know. People. People will be doing their thing, They'll

506
00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:27,045
Speaker 1: be doing their people thing. But yeah. Wolford also his

507
00:30:27,125 --> 00:30:29,845
Speaker 1: dad was a serpent handler as well, and he also

508
00:30:29,925 --> 00:30:34,325
Speaker 1: died from a snake bite in nineteen eighty three. So wow,

509
00:30:34,485 --> 00:30:37,165
Speaker 1: there you go. I know, and just you guys know,

510
00:30:37,245 --> 00:30:38,805
Speaker 1: if you do want to go to one of these services,

511
00:30:38,805 --> 00:30:41,365
Speaker 1: it is not required to handle the snake, but maybe

512
00:30:41,365 --> 00:30:42,965
Speaker 1: you're a bit of a pussy if you don't. I'm

513
00:30:42,965 --> 00:30:48,125
Speaker 1: not illegal. Oh my gosh. It's illegal to in some states,

514
00:30:48,125 --> 00:30:50,405
Speaker 1: but there hasn't been like there isn't like an overarching

515
00:30:50,445 --> 00:30:53,685
Speaker 1: like Supreme Court decisions. It's like basically it's like you

516
00:30:53,725 --> 00:30:56,365
Speaker 1: can't intentionally put people in harm's way. And I think

517
00:30:56,365 --> 00:30:59,245
Speaker 1: it's like in Kentucky and a few other states they've

518
00:30:59,245 --> 00:31:02,165
Speaker 1: made it illegal. But that's what it was, Okay, I

519
00:31:02,245 --> 00:31:05,365
Speaker 1: wasn't When I was in college in Kentucky. I remember

520
00:31:05,605 --> 00:31:07,925
Speaker 1: there was like this church bust that they had like

521
00:31:07,965 --> 00:31:11,405
Speaker 1: all of these snakes and snake handlers and stuff and

522
00:31:11,525 --> 00:31:14,165
Speaker 1: what and it was like a huge deal when I

523
00:31:14,205 --> 00:31:16,565
Speaker 1: was in Kentucky because I just remember everybody talking about

524
00:31:16,565 --> 00:31:18,525
Speaker 1: it and I was like, why would anybody do that

525
00:31:19,005 --> 00:31:21,365
Speaker 1: a church bust? So it was happening in Kentucky and

526
00:31:21,365 --> 00:31:22,845
Speaker 1: then they were like no, this is illegal, and now

527
00:31:22,885 --> 00:31:26,725
Speaker 1: we're talking about it on this podcast. Yeah, this is

528
00:31:26,765 --> 00:31:31,045
Speaker 1: like so weird, Like what this is so just everything

529
00:31:31,045 --> 00:31:33,325
Speaker 1: comes in a circle. Wow, Taylor, the way you see

530
00:31:33,365 --> 00:31:36,685
Speaker 1: time actually makes a lot of sense. Yeah, it's all circular,

531
00:31:36,725 --> 00:31:40,445
Speaker 1: it all comes back. Wow. So I mean I'm just thinking.

532
00:31:41,525 --> 00:31:44,645
Speaker 1: I mean, it's also funny too that they're you know,

533
00:31:44,685 --> 00:31:47,405
Speaker 1: they're like just taking the Bible so literally, because I

534
00:31:47,445 --> 00:31:49,925
Speaker 1: think it's they used the King James version. And there

535
00:31:50,005 --> 00:31:52,045
Speaker 1: was also some people who were talking about how it's

536
00:31:52,125 --> 00:31:57,125
Speaker 1: like this specific verse in Mark wasn't in there, and

537
00:31:57,565 --> 00:32:00,645
Speaker 1: you know, earlier editions of the Bible it was like

538
00:32:00,685 --> 00:32:02,245
Speaker 1: more of a footnote and it's just sort of and

539
00:32:02,245 --> 00:32:04,965
Speaker 1: you also like with translation stuff. I'm like, I mean,

540
00:32:05,005 --> 00:32:07,045
Speaker 1: I'm like, it shouldn't it just be like a metaphor,

541
00:32:07,165 --> 00:32:09,445
Speaker 1: Like I understand looking the Bible is a metaphor as

542
00:32:09,485 --> 00:32:12,125
Speaker 1: opposed to like a literal. I'm like, are you eating

543
00:32:12,125 --> 00:32:14,485
Speaker 1: all that unleaven bread? I don't know, Like, what are

544
00:32:14,525 --> 00:32:16,325
Speaker 1: you doing? But I did find a verse that I'm

545
00:32:16,325 --> 00:32:20,125
Speaker 1: going to take very literally. It's uh, Proverbs thirty one six.

546
00:32:21,045 --> 00:32:23,925
Speaker 1: It's let be or be for those who are perishing,

547
00:32:24,245 --> 00:32:27,445
Speaker 1: wine for those who are in anguish um. And as

548
00:32:27,485 --> 00:32:30,285
Speaker 1: someone in anguish, I'm gonna drink me some wine. Oh, Wow,

549
00:32:30,725 --> 00:32:33,205
Speaker 1: I hate that. Okay, great, but I guess we should

550
00:32:33,205 --> 00:32:35,005
Speaker 1: just like get a six pack when we're dying. And

551
00:32:35,125 --> 00:32:38,565
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know exactly when you perish. It's

552
00:32:38,605 --> 00:32:40,405
Speaker 1: kind of hard to drink while you're dying, I think,

553
00:32:40,445 --> 00:32:42,325
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It depends on how you're dying.

554
00:32:42,645 --> 00:32:44,565
Speaker 1: It does depend. Yeah, if you're like one of the

555
00:32:44,605 --> 00:32:47,405
Speaker 1: sailors in the submarines, yeah, probably get a six pack.

556
00:32:47,565 --> 00:32:49,925
Speaker 1: But I mean it's hard. There's not very many bodegas

557
00:32:50,005 --> 00:32:54,325
Speaker 1: under water, so hard to get a six pack anyway.

558
00:32:54,525 --> 00:33:04,365
Speaker 1: So strychnine. Use strychnine and snakes ss ss Okay yeah,

559
00:33:04,445 --> 00:33:07,565
Speaker 1: and okay, here are are you ready for this transition? Okay?

560
00:33:07,725 --> 00:33:14,165
Speaker 1: What do snakes have tooths? No, don't they have things?

561
00:33:16,045 --> 00:33:19,165
Speaker 1: That's probably the same. I mean, I got fangs. That's

562
00:33:19,165 --> 00:33:24,125
Speaker 1: how teeth. I got all these fangs. Thanks are not

563
00:33:24,205 --> 00:33:29,005
Speaker 1: tea wait, things are teeth? Fangs? I think things are

564
00:33:29,045 --> 00:33:33,405
Speaker 1: really hot? All right? Anyway, So we're gonna get Taylor's

565
00:33:33,445 --> 00:33:36,565
Speaker 1: gonna tell us a tooth taale a t t t

566
00:33:37,445 --> 00:33:43,645
Speaker 1: titty Taylor telling us a tooth taale Who? All right, Taylor,

567
00:33:43,725 --> 00:33:47,205
Speaker 1: take it away, lead us through this journey. Yeah, Gabby,

568
00:33:47,245 --> 00:33:49,165
Speaker 1: I feel like you're gonna love this year that we're

569
00:33:49,165 --> 00:33:54,925
Speaker 1: going to eight hundred ninety two. Oh that's a sexy year,

570
00:33:55,085 --> 00:33:59,525
Speaker 1: eight ninety two, tell me about it. So let's go. Okay,

571
00:33:59,565 --> 00:34:02,445
Speaker 1: we're going back there. During this time, Great Britain had

572
00:34:02,765 --> 00:34:07,645
Speaker 1: multiple kingdoms. They were being raided pretty regularly by Vikings

573
00:34:07,725 --> 00:34:12,445
Speaker 1: good Downe with the Queen. Yeah. So it just like

574
00:34:12,485 --> 00:34:16,885
Speaker 1: a bunch of things that was what is now Great Britain.

575
00:34:17,045 --> 00:34:19,925
Speaker 1: But that okay. So it's just like all places, a

576
00:34:19,965 --> 00:34:22,525
Speaker 1: lot of places over there, there were any There was

577
00:34:22,685 --> 00:34:26,605
Speaker 1: just all kinds of kingdoms. And we're going to talk

578
00:34:26,645 --> 00:34:31,685
Speaker 1: about a fella named Sigurd Isistenson aka Sigurd the Mighty

579
00:34:31,805 --> 00:34:36,805
Speaker 1: aka second Earl of Orkney. Orkney is like these islands

580
00:34:36,845 --> 00:34:42,245
Speaker 1: north of Scotland today. Sigurd means victory. So his name

581
00:34:42,325 --> 00:34:49,685
Speaker 1: was really mighty victorious. Oh yeah, and mighty victorious. He

582
00:34:50,245 --> 00:34:57,445
Speaker 1: was okay, yeah, he was mighty and victorious. That's also

583
00:34:57,445 --> 00:35:02,565
Speaker 1: a good name, Bessie Mash, but mighty Bessie Mighty Mash.

584
00:35:02,685 --> 00:35:05,325
Speaker 1: That will be my new name. Here's the thing. Back

585
00:35:05,525 --> 00:35:09,645
Speaker 1: in people would be like, oh, yeah, he's like super

586
00:35:09,645 --> 00:35:12,725
Speaker 1: great at war, super great at battle. I mean basically

587
00:35:12,765 --> 00:35:15,125
Speaker 1: everyone was until they died for the most part, right,

588
00:35:15,285 --> 00:35:18,245
Speaker 1: I mean that's true. But also back then people would

589
00:35:18,285 --> 00:35:22,725
Speaker 1: call other people like I don't know Ellie the tall

590
00:35:23,085 --> 00:35:28,845
Speaker 1: or like I don't know Ivan, or like I don't

591
00:35:28,885 --> 00:35:32,965
Speaker 1: know Richard the Smellie. So it's just funny what they chose.

592
00:35:33,285 --> 00:35:37,325
Speaker 1: And then where Nika Taylor and Gabby the mentally ill?

593
00:35:37,605 --> 00:35:42,805
Speaker 1: Absolutely so okay though. Also can I just say about

594
00:35:42,565 --> 00:35:45,485
Speaker 1: Victory is that I did study abroad in Paris and

595
00:35:45,605 --> 00:35:48,605
Speaker 1: college and my I stayed in a host family and

596
00:35:48,645 --> 00:35:52,605
Speaker 1: I got bullied constantly by the sixteen year old who

597
00:35:53,085 --> 00:35:54,605
Speaker 1: I guess I was staying in her house but her

598
00:35:54,685 --> 00:35:59,485
Speaker 1: name was her name is Rosa Victoire, Rosa Victory, and

599
00:35:59,525 --> 00:36:02,165
Speaker 1: she was so mean to me. I don't know, there's

600
00:36:02,245 --> 00:36:07,405
Speaker 1: something that makes me have feelings about Gabby being pumping

601
00:36:07,485 --> 00:36:14,125
Speaker 1: in college and being bullied by a sixteen year old happiness. Oh,

602
00:36:14,165 --> 00:36:17,085
Speaker 1: it's like really bad, but also kind of funny. Sorry, guys.

603
00:36:17,125 --> 00:36:19,725
Speaker 1: It was funny because my French was like not the best,

604
00:36:19,805 --> 00:36:22,045
Speaker 1: and so she would be like saying terrible things to

605
00:36:22,085 --> 00:36:24,365
Speaker 1: me that I would get the gist of what she

606
00:36:24,445 --> 00:36:26,765
Speaker 1: was saying. But then I couldn't like say anything back

607
00:36:26,845 --> 00:36:28,685
Speaker 1: because my French was so bad. She's like, I can't

608
00:36:28,725 --> 00:36:36,125
Speaker 1: understand you. It was like anyway, okay, uh Siggurd the Mighty.

609
00:36:36,525 --> 00:36:41,165
Speaker 1: He inherited the Orkney Islands from his brother, who received

610
00:36:41,245 --> 00:36:45,645
Speaker 1: the islands when his son died in battle over the islands,

611
00:36:45,845 --> 00:36:50,205
Speaker 1: so it was inherited. But you know, Cigret was like,

612
00:36:50,525 --> 00:36:53,765
Speaker 1: I just I need more. That's not enough. He's like,

613
00:36:53,805 --> 00:36:56,925
Speaker 1: I want power, I want my own kingdom. And so

614
00:36:57,125 --> 00:37:00,805
Speaker 1: he had his eye on Moray next, which is on

615
00:37:00,845 --> 00:37:03,765
Speaker 1: the coast of Scotland, like a ways south from where

616
00:37:03,765 --> 00:37:07,765
Speaker 1: he was hanging out. And Mile Bricktay was the king

617
00:37:07,805 --> 00:37:11,805
Speaker 1: of Murray, and he was nicknamed Mile Bricktay the buck

618
00:37:11,885 --> 00:37:14,645
Speaker 1: tooth due to his toothie smile. So we were talking

619
00:37:14,645 --> 00:37:17,685
Speaker 1: about like you were saying, like what Richard is right?

620
00:37:18,085 --> 00:37:22,805
Speaker 1: He was the bucktooth. I you know he speaks to

621
00:37:22,845 --> 00:37:25,285
Speaker 1: me because I have buck teeth myself. That's funny, I did.

622
00:37:25,325 --> 00:37:27,125
Speaker 1: I did not know that you had buck teeth. I

623
00:37:27,205 --> 00:37:30,885
Speaker 1: just thought you were very beautiful, but oh now you're

624
00:37:30,925 --> 00:37:33,125
Speaker 1: even more beautiful because I have a thing for buck teeth.

625
00:37:33,165 --> 00:37:36,165
Speaker 1: He might have had men beautiful too, with his buck teeth.

626
00:37:36,205 --> 00:37:39,405
Speaker 1: You know, oh, I'm sure he was. He was like saying,

627
00:37:39,445 --> 00:37:41,045
Speaker 1: as like a pride. He's like, yell, look at my

628
00:37:41,045 --> 00:37:45,605
Speaker 1: buck teeth. Bitches. Anyway, Siger the Mighty challenged the King

629
00:37:45,605 --> 00:37:49,005
Speaker 1: of Murray to a battle, and they agreed to a

630
00:37:49,005 --> 00:37:53,445
Speaker 1: battle forty men each. So typically Vikings were fans of

631
00:37:53,485 --> 00:37:56,725
Speaker 1: the whole like sneak attack where they'd catch their victims

632
00:37:56,805 --> 00:37:59,765
Speaker 1: off guard, but this was pre arranged, which I think

633
00:37:59,885 --> 00:38:01,965
Speaker 1: is really funny. I kind of just like imagine them

634
00:38:02,005 --> 00:38:04,885
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, I want to have this land and

635
00:38:04,885 --> 00:38:06,965
Speaker 1: he's like no, but it's like my land. You're like okay,

636
00:38:06,965 --> 00:38:08,765
Speaker 1: well I'll fight you for it. And they're like yeah, okay,

637
00:38:08,805 --> 00:38:11,165
Speaker 1: that seems like a good idea. But like let's just

638
00:38:11,165 --> 00:38:12,965
Speaker 1: like make it kind of like a low key battle.

639
00:38:13,005 --> 00:38:19,045
Speaker 1: So just forty on each side should be plenty, Like yeah,

640
00:38:19,245 --> 00:38:21,165
Speaker 1: that's really what I imagine, not a big deal, Like

641
00:38:21,565 --> 00:38:24,365
Speaker 1: just forty it's fine. Oh. The idea of facilitating a

642
00:38:24,445 --> 00:38:27,045
Speaker 1: gequel invite and then putting eighty people on it and

643
00:38:27,085 --> 00:38:31,605
Speaker 1: then getting RSVPs is that literally is my dream. I

644
00:38:31,605 --> 00:38:36,845
Speaker 1: would RSVPs are like my drug. Okay, continue, Hey Nika,

645
00:38:37,205 --> 00:38:42,165
Speaker 1: I want your house so I know it's yours, but

646
00:38:42,445 --> 00:38:44,965
Speaker 1: I would like it. So if you want to have

647
00:38:45,045 --> 00:38:49,365
Speaker 1: a low key a low key dance off, oh I

648
00:38:49,405 --> 00:38:52,285
Speaker 1: would win, though, let's be honest. Well not if I

649
00:38:52,285 --> 00:38:55,365
Speaker 1: could bring forty of my closest friends in. You know

650
00:38:55,405 --> 00:38:59,445
Speaker 1: some of them could dance. That's actually really fair. I'm

651
00:38:59,445 --> 00:39:03,965
Speaker 1: gonna lose my house, you guys um anyway, So Sigurd

652
00:39:04,125 --> 00:39:07,685
Speaker 1: was like, you know this dude, he may cheat, so

653
00:39:07,885 --> 00:39:11,565
Speaker 1: I better cheat. Wow. Wow, he's mighty, but he's not

654
00:39:11,725 --> 00:39:14,925
Speaker 1: very honest. No, he's not nice. He was Sigurd than

655
00:39:14,965 --> 00:39:21,605
Speaker 1: not very honest. So he had he put two people

656
00:39:21,685 --> 00:39:25,565
Speaker 1: on a horse, two people to a horse, so forty horses,

657
00:39:25,925 --> 00:39:30,645
Speaker 1: eighty men. Well, guess what. My old breaktay was honorable

658
00:39:30,925 --> 00:39:33,765
Speaker 1: and he kept his word to forty men. He was like,

659
00:39:33,885 --> 00:39:37,885
Speaker 1: oh shoot, like I see two sets of legs on

660
00:39:37,925 --> 00:39:41,165
Speaker 1: each of these horses. It's a problem. So obviously the

661
00:39:41,205 --> 00:39:45,605
Speaker 1: fight was incredibly unfair too. Vikings to one Scotsman and

662
00:39:46,245 --> 00:39:48,725
Speaker 1: Sigurd was like he told all his buddies. He was like, hey,

663
00:39:48,885 --> 00:39:51,405
Speaker 1: I want my old break tays to myself, and so

664
00:39:51,725 --> 00:39:55,245
Speaker 1: Sigurd gets to him chops his head off. But that's

665
00:39:55,285 --> 00:39:58,525
Speaker 1: not fair. That's not like Sigurd, that's not even how

666
00:39:58,525 --> 00:40:02,485
Speaker 1: it works. Vikings weren't very fair. We're not done yet.

667
00:40:03,325 --> 00:40:09,085
Speaker 1: So victory was declared by Sigurd in his people, and

668
00:40:09,125 --> 00:40:11,445
Speaker 1: he was like, hey, man, like hate all my buddies,

669
00:40:11,485 --> 00:40:14,925
Speaker 1: like chop off their heads and put them on your

670
00:40:14,925 --> 00:40:18,845
Speaker 1: horse's saddle. We'll go back to Orkney and show everybody

671
00:40:18,885 --> 00:40:22,485
Speaker 1: how cool we are for defeating them despite cheating. I

672
00:40:22,525 --> 00:40:24,765
Speaker 1: wonder if they had to fight over because like then

673
00:40:25,005 --> 00:40:27,485
Speaker 1: his eighty dudes, not every single one of them would

674
00:40:27,525 --> 00:40:29,445
Speaker 1: get their own head to chop off. So I wonder

675
00:40:29,485 --> 00:40:31,565
Speaker 1: if then they fought about like who gets to chop

676
00:40:31,605 --> 00:40:33,365
Speaker 1: the head off, you know, or maybe they just had

677
00:40:33,405 --> 00:40:36,245
Speaker 1: like one dude who's like the head chopper. Well, not

678
00:40:36,365 --> 00:40:38,925
Speaker 1: everybody got ahead, right, because there was eighty of them

679
00:40:39,245 --> 00:40:44,885
Speaker 1: and forty so everybody got ahead. Yeah. But anyway, so

680
00:40:46,445 --> 00:40:50,525
Speaker 1: mister bucktooth was not done fighting, Like even though he's

681
00:40:50,565 --> 00:40:54,205
Speaker 1: dead and his head's been chopped off yep, despite only

682
00:40:54,245 --> 00:40:56,965
Speaker 1: being ahead now, I mean, his body's over there, his

683
00:40:57,085 --> 00:41:02,765
Speaker 1: head is now dingled England from the saddle, and his teeth,

684
00:41:03,365 --> 00:41:08,085
Speaker 1: his little buck teeth were rubbing up against Sigurd's leg Okay,

685
00:41:08,165 --> 00:41:13,125
Speaker 1: literally disgusting, Taylor, That is literally disgusting. You are so gross, Taylor,

686
00:41:13,485 --> 00:41:16,645
Speaker 1: just for saying that, that is so disgusting. The thing

687
00:41:16,685 --> 00:41:18,485
Speaker 1: in my head right now is honestly gonna give me

688
00:41:18,605 --> 00:41:22,605
Speaker 1: nightmare tonight. So I guess his teeth were kind of sharp,

689
00:41:23,285 --> 00:41:27,285
Speaker 1: so maybe they were like and I couldn't actually figure

690
00:41:27,325 --> 00:41:29,445
Speaker 1: this out because I've seen I saw it in like

691
00:41:29,525 --> 00:41:31,965
Speaker 1: both ways. But I don't know if he had an

692
00:41:31,965 --> 00:41:35,165
Speaker 1: existing scratch, or if his teeth caused the scratch, or

693
00:41:35,205 --> 00:41:39,645
Speaker 1: if there was some combination of both. But eight hundred

694
00:41:39,805 --> 00:41:43,005
Speaker 1: ninety two, a d was not known for their hygiene,

695
00:41:43,125 --> 00:41:50,645
Speaker 1: much less their oral hygiene, and so old miles stinky

696
00:41:50,685 --> 00:41:54,445
Speaker 1: teeth bacteria got all up in Sigurd's wound and into

697
00:41:54,485 --> 00:41:59,325
Speaker 1: his bloodstream. Oh he just nibbled. He nibbled post mortem,

698
00:41:59,405 --> 00:42:06,045
Speaker 1: Yes he did, and the cut got infected, swollen, pussy grossestiness.

699
00:42:07,085 --> 00:42:09,885
Speaker 1: There's no way in aboutics back then. So he suffered

700
00:42:09,925 --> 00:42:16,365
Speaker 1: blood poisoning and died. Sure, my goodness, Sigurd. So let

701
00:42:16,405 --> 00:42:19,285
Speaker 1: me tell you, Sigurd the mighty, yep, figured the mighty.

702
00:42:19,645 --> 00:42:22,565
Speaker 1: He ended up losing the battle, Like who really won

703
00:42:22,685 --> 00:42:24,845
Speaker 1: the battle? We don't know, well, I guess he did win,

704
00:42:24,925 --> 00:42:27,765
Speaker 1: but then he died. Well, but that was karma coming

705
00:42:27,765 --> 00:42:33,125
Speaker 1: back to bite you in the law, honestly, your leg,

706
00:42:33,205 --> 00:42:38,205
Speaker 1: to infect your scratches. Yeah, so you know, Gabby, I

707
00:42:38,245 --> 00:42:41,925
Speaker 1: know you have more to talk about oral hygiene, but

708
00:42:41,965 --> 00:42:44,885
Speaker 1: you know, I just I felt like he deserved. I

709
00:42:44,925 --> 00:42:48,405
Speaker 1: really felt like Sigurd deserved that. I agree, but I

710
00:42:48,445 --> 00:42:51,045
Speaker 1: do honestly the imagery that you gave me about this,

711
00:42:51,725 --> 00:42:55,525
Speaker 1: you know, decapitated head riding alongside of Sigurd, you know,

712
00:42:56,005 --> 00:42:59,365
Speaker 1: chewing chump and you know, nibbling, you know, squeezing some

713
00:42:59,445 --> 00:43:04,045
Speaker 1: little juice out of like Sigurd's leg and infecting him.

714
00:43:04,205 --> 00:43:08,565
Speaker 1: I don't want that. Personally. He's just like riding along

715
00:43:08,725 --> 00:43:11,565
Speaker 1: all happy. He's like, haha, I won, but I cheated,

716
00:43:11,605 --> 00:43:13,885
Speaker 1: so of course I won. And then he's like and

717
00:43:13,925 --> 00:43:16,365
Speaker 1: then I've got his head and then but like, meanwhile,

718
00:43:16,485 --> 00:43:21,205
Speaker 1: the head's like, that's an important lesson. That's an important lesson. Yeah, Okay,

719
00:43:21,365 --> 00:43:25,485
Speaker 1: don't cheat, you guys, don't cheat. Always be honest. Yeah,

720
00:43:25,525 --> 00:43:28,685
Speaker 1: you know this connects back to our snake discussion, because

721
00:43:28,725 --> 00:43:31,205
Speaker 1: even after you chop a snake's head off, it can

722
00:43:31,205 --> 00:43:34,525
Speaker 1: still bite you and that's what they say about bucktooth

723
00:43:34,605 --> 00:43:37,565
Speaker 1: people too. Oh even if you chop their heads off,

724
00:43:37,565 --> 00:43:42,245
Speaker 1: they can still batch you. So watch for Taylor, Taylor.

725
00:43:43,845 --> 00:43:45,965
Speaker 1: You go into battle with Taylor, you don't know what's

726
00:43:46,005 --> 00:43:50,525
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Okay, Oh, we are learning lessons and um

727
00:43:51,685 --> 00:43:55,125
Speaker 1: learning about ourselves. So we'll be right back with a

728
00:43:55,125 --> 00:43:58,205
Speaker 1: little bit more information. We're going, We're going, we're keeping

729
00:43:58,205 --> 00:44:01,565
Speaker 1: ourselves in the mouth, okay, and won't be right back.

730
00:44:06,445 --> 00:44:12,405
Speaker 1: We are back. We are back, and we are showing

731
00:44:12,485 --> 00:44:16,045
Speaker 1: our beautiful teeth. I actually have really beautiful teeth, and

732
00:44:16,085 --> 00:44:20,805
Speaker 1: I never had to have braces. That's great. I had braces.

733
00:44:20,965 --> 00:44:24,725
Speaker 1: I had like the rubber bands going like crisscross across

734
00:44:24,845 --> 00:44:28,125
Speaker 1: my mouth and headgear and the whole nar yards and

735
00:44:28,205 --> 00:44:30,525
Speaker 1: one tailor to buy my cheek so bad, just like

736
00:44:30,525 --> 00:44:34,045
Speaker 1: a light nibble. I'm like, please do right here. No,

737
00:44:34,245 --> 00:44:37,085
Speaker 1: but she might have bacteria. And those teas tailor's teeth

738
00:44:37,125 --> 00:44:43,285
Speaker 1: are very hygienic. Okay, teas, te te t teas, Okay, amazing.

739
00:44:44,405 --> 00:44:46,685
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about the teeth. Yeah, I mean the

740
00:44:46,765 --> 00:44:49,205
Speaker 1: twoth weren't really good, you know, back then. That's all

741
00:44:49,245 --> 00:44:52,125
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They did not but at the same time,

742
00:44:52,245 --> 00:44:54,885
Speaker 1: back in the day, the day being like times that

743
00:44:54,965 --> 00:44:57,245
Speaker 1: are before now, in a long stretch of those times,

744
00:44:57,285 --> 00:45:00,885
Speaker 1: from the BC's to the ADS, they actually might have

745
00:45:00,925 --> 00:45:02,765
Speaker 1: had better teeth though, because they didn't have as many

746
00:45:02,845 --> 00:45:06,205
Speaker 1: like processed foods and sugar. So our teeth, i'd actually,

747
00:45:06,765 --> 00:45:09,445
Speaker 1: you know, we had better dentistry obviously, but our teeth

748
00:45:09,485 --> 00:45:12,165
Speaker 1: are getting a lot more maybe nasty shit. Is this

749
00:45:12,285 --> 00:45:14,805
Speaker 1: your opinion or is this scientific fact? This is what

750
00:45:15,005 --> 00:45:19,005
Speaker 1: some people said on their blogs. Who's some people? I

751
00:45:19,165 --> 00:45:21,565
Speaker 1: was on a dentist blog, and you know, it's kind

752
00:45:21,605 --> 00:45:23,405
Speaker 1: of like this idea like our food like we do.

753
00:45:23,525 --> 00:45:26,485
Speaker 1: Our food is you know, kind of gross, you know,

754
00:45:26,725 --> 00:45:29,925
Speaker 1: in many ways, but you know, we can maintain our teeth.

755
00:45:30,005 --> 00:45:32,805
Speaker 1: Good for us, We're doing a good job. I supt

756
00:45:32,845 --> 00:45:35,765
Speaker 1: for me, I have cavities and don't didn't get dental

757
00:45:35,805 --> 00:45:38,645
Speaker 1: insurance because I'm stupid. But I don't have dental insurance either.

758
00:45:38,765 --> 00:45:40,405
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just got a Columbia to get any

759
00:45:40,445 --> 00:45:42,685
Speaker 1: teeth stuff done. Actually, I broke my tooth recently, so

760
00:45:42,725 --> 00:45:45,565
Speaker 1: I need to I'm gonna go there only three weeks okay, ooh,

761
00:45:45,965 --> 00:45:49,125
Speaker 1: new tooth. But here's the thing, though, you know, they

762
00:45:49,165 --> 00:45:51,325
Speaker 1: did have dentistry back in the day. You know, there's like,

763
00:45:51,525 --> 00:45:54,405
Speaker 1: you know, ancient Egyptians, there's evidence of some tooth shit

764
00:45:54,565 --> 00:45:57,125
Speaker 1: that they were doing. There's also like the Greeks talk

765
00:45:57,205 --> 00:45:59,845
Speaker 1: about tooth shit, but they didn't really do much with

766
00:45:59,965 --> 00:46:02,965
Speaker 1: dentistry because apparently it was a sign of pride to suffer.

767
00:46:03,125 --> 00:46:06,085
Speaker 1: So if you had like painful teeth and like, good

768
00:46:06,125 --> 00:46:08,125
Speaker 1: for you. It is mostly like how do you endure

769
00:46:08,285 --> 00:46:11,765
Speaker 1: pain versus like, let's actually fix the problem. That's dumb.

770
00:46:12,525 --> 00:46:15,165
Speaker 1: But the ancient Etruscans they were the ones who were

771
00:46:15,245 --> 00:46:19,245
Speaker 1: like really into like tooth decor. You know, they're the

772
00:46:19,325 --> 00:46:21,325
Speaker 1: ones who maybe I'm not going to say they did

773
00:46:21,365 --> 00:46:23,805
Speaker 1: the first grill, but they definitely had some grills. They

774
00:46:23,805 --> 00:46:26,085
Speaker 1: would get like gold wiring and they would sort of

775
00:46:26,165 --> 00:46:27,805
Speaker 1: like you know, they would wire your tooth back in

776
00:46:27,885 --> 00:46:30,245
Speaker 1: place or whatever. But sometimes they would also just do

777
00:46:30,365 --> 00:46:35,845
Speaker 1: it for decoration, you know. They weren't that yeah, let

778
00:46:35,925 --> 00:46:40,525
Speaker 1: me see your grill, my dudes. And the Vikings though,

779
00:46:40,885 --> 00:46:44,405
Speaker 1: the Vikings were another people who were also very preoccupied

780
00:46:44,485 --> 00:46:47,685
Speaker 1: with their appearance. Okay, you know there's some tombs of

781
00:46:47,765 --> 00:46:51,445
Speaker 1: some Viking lords where they were buried with their combs

782
00:46:51,805 --> 00:46:54,005
Speaker 1: because they had wanted to have you know, really nice

783
00:46:54,085 --> 00:46:57,525
Speaker 1: hair in the afterlife. They also, you know, archaeologists have

784
00:46:57,685 --> 00:47:01,965
Speaker 1: found like four pound necklaces made out of gold that

785
00:47:02,045 --> 00:47:04,485
Speaker 1: they would wear, so they were trying to look fancy,

786
00:47:04,845 --> 00:47:08,565
Speaker 1: you know, they were a fancy people. And their teeth,

787
00:47:08,965 --> 00:47:10,925
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't have the greatest of teeth. But

788
00:47:11,045 --> 00:47:14,645
Speaker 1: there are two different archaeological studies done. One in two

789
00:47:14,685 --> 00:47:18,325
Speaker 1: thousand and six where there was a Swedish anthropologist who

790
00:47:18,725 --> 00:47:22,125
Speaker 1: they looked at five hundred and fifty seven Viking skeletons

791
00:47:22,445 --> 00:47:25,925
Speaker 1: and found that in twenty four of those skeletons that

792
00:47:26,085 --> 00:47:31,245
Speaker 1: they actually had these horizontal grooves on their teeth, horizontal grooves,

793
00:47:31,485 --> 00:47:35,245
Speaker 1: horizontal grooves. But then in two thousand and nine there

794
00:47:35,365 --> 00:47:38,405
Speaker 1: is another some anthropologists found fifty four bodies just in

795
00:47:38,485 --> 00:47:42,445
Speaker 1: this like mass grave of Vikings, and they also found

796
00:47:42,525 --> 00:47:46,565
Speaker 1: that these Vikings also had horizontal grooves on their front

797
00:47:46,605 --> 00:47:49,085
Speaker 1: two teeth, and then some of them had some more grooves.

798
00:47:49,285 --> 00:47:51,125
Speaker 1: And so they're assuming, they're like, well, this seems like

799
00:47:51,205 --> 00:47:55,245
Speaker 1: this was intentional work where they would intentionally get grooves

800
00:47:55,685 --> 00:47:57,885
Speaker 1: in their teeth, and they're not exactly sure the reason,

801
00:47:57,965 --> 00:47:59,925
Speaker 1: but they think. It's probably because you know, to show

802
00:47:59,965 --> 00:48:02,645
Speaker 1: that you're a tough you're toughie, you know, and you're

803
00:48:02,645 --> 00:48:07,285
Speaker 1: a victorious So I'm sorry. Would they save like into

804
00:48:07,405 --> 00:48:10,685
Speaker 1: the tooth horizontally, yeah, so it was just like it

805
00:48:10,765 --> 00:48:13,205
Speaker 1: was on the top teeth. Yeah, they would do these

806
00:48:13,245 --> 00:48:16,845
Speaker 1: little two like that. I guess basically it's like decorating

807
00:48:16,925 --> 00:48:22,445
Speaker 1: your teeth by chiseling it, you know, for your teeth, sure,

808
00:48:22,525 --> 00:48:24,565
Speaker 1: for your teeth. You know. They would do that in um,

809
00:48:24,685 --> 00:48:29,005
Speaker 1: like nineteenth century like curiosity shows, there was this one

810
00:48:29,285 --> 00:48:34,645
Speaker 1: kid that was called the Leopard Boy, and they chiseled

811
00:48:34,845 --> 00:48:38,645
Speaker 1: his teeth into like fangs basically like all of his

812
00:48:38,765 --> 00:48:41,685
Speaker 1: teeth to look more animal like. Yeah, like pointy mm.

813
00:48:43,085 --> 00:48:48,085
Speaker 1: That sounds problematic and fun extremely problematic. Yes, yeah. But

814
00:48:48,165 --> 00:48:50,965
Speaker 1: the thing about the Vikings is that they were a

815
00:48:51,125 --> 00:48:54,125
Speaker 1: very well traveled people, so they would kind of you know,

816
00:48:54,445 --> 00:48:57,565
Speaker 1: go over to Africa. There's also evidence that they you know,

817
00:48:57,685 --> 00:49:01,165
Speaker 1: they went over to Greenland. They liked boating around, they

818
00:49:01,205 --> 00:49:03,565
Speaker 1: were boating around, and you know there's like, yeah, obviously

819
00:49:03,605 --> 00:49:05,485
Speaker 1: I was evidence that they went over to the America

820
00:49:05,485 --> 00:49:10,965
Speaker 1: America as long before mister Columbus and because like anthropologists

821
00:49:11,005 --> 00:49:12,765
Speaker 1: were trying to figure out, like how did they come

822
00:49:12,845 --> 00:49:15,245
Speaker 1: up with this idea? Because the Vikings also like it

823
00:49:15,365 --> 00:49:17,165
Speaker 1: was very common that they would like, you know, like

824
00:49:17,285 --> 00:49:20,845
Speaker 1: copy other people's traditions or kind of like you know, appropriate,

825
00:49:21,445 --> 00:49:24,965
Speaker 1: they would appropriate other people's cultures, but probably like maybe

826
00:49:25,005 --> 00:49:27,325
Speaker 1: in a I mean they would also like pillage and

827
00:49:27,685 --> 00:49:30,565
Speaker 1: rape and stuff by pillaging and raping. That wasn't just

828
00:49:30,725 --> 00:49:33,405
Speaker 1: the Vikings. A lot of folks were doing that back then.

829
00:49:33,525 --> 00:49:35,965
Speaker 1: You know, are you saying that makes it okay, Gabby,

830
00:49:37,925 --> 00:49:41,285
Speaker 1: that it's fine, But yeah, there's like, um, they're thinking

831
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Speaker 1: some anthropologist were thinking like maybe because in West Africa,

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Speaker 1: they there was a lot of different um people who

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00:49:47,285 --> 00:49:50,365
Speaker 1: did sort of like decorative tooth modifications who also kind

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Speaker 1: of filed their teeth into you know, sharper say, similar

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00:49:53,725 --> 00:49:55,485
Speaker 1: to what Nico was talking about, if like filing people's

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00:49:55,525 --> 00:49:58,125
Speaker 1: teeth down to make them pointier. But then they're also

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00:49:58,205 --> 00:50:01,165
Speaker 1: saying that the horizontal grooves looked very similar to Native

838
00:50:01,165 --> 00:50:03,685
Speaker 1: American tribes that are by the Great Lakes, but then

839
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Speaker 1: also in like Georgia and Louisiana. But there's no evidence

840
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Speaker 1: that the Vikings ever made it that far. But they're saying, oh,

841
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Speaker 1: maybe they met some people and they're like, I like

842
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Speaker 1: how you're doing your tooths. We're gonna do our tooths

843
00:50:15,005 --> 00:50:18,645
Speaker 1: that way too, Okay. And then the Vikings also there's

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Speaker 1: like you know, documentation of people, you know, people describing

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Speaker 1: a Viking attack and being like they all had like

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00:50:23,965 --> 00:50:27,885
Speaker 1: red teeth, and they're so people are thinking either they

847
00:50:27,925 --> 00:50:31,605
Speaker 1: would paint their teeth read to look scary, you know,

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00:50:31,965 --> 00:50:35,365
Speaker 1: which tracks like I would be scared, you know, like

849
00:50:35,445 --> 00:50:38,005
Speaker 1: these scary but also kind of turned on go ahead, Yeah, yeah,

850
00:50:38,165 --> 00:50:40,805
Speaker 1: of course grooved and red teeth. But then there was

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00:50:40,845 --> 00:50:42,765
Speaker 1: also on this dentistry blog that I was on, it

852
00:50:42,885 --> 00:50:44,685
Speaker 1: was funny that dentists were like, well maybe they actually

853
00:50:44,685 --> 00:50:48,245
Speaker 1: just had really bad teeth, you know, tough or do

854
00:50:48,285 --> 00:50:50,165
Speaker 1: you have bad teeth? Also, I love that you were

855
00:50:50,205 --> 00:50:53,885
Speaker 1: reading dentistry blogs. Yeah, it's my new favorite thing. You know,

856
00:50:53,965 --> 00:50:55,685
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I just love when you get

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00:50:55,685 --> 00:50:58,245
Speaker 1: into any subgroup, you know, the subgroup of the dentist.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can be arguing all day, you know,

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Speaker 1: were the Vikings were they toughies or were they bad mouthies?

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00:51:05,565 --> 00:51:08,005
Speaker 1: You know, dentists kind of have a point though, because

861
00:51:08,765 --> 00:51:11,725
Speaker 1: like flossing is actually really nice, like when you get

862
00:51:11,805 --> 00:51:14,565
Speaker 1: really in there and then your teeth feel squeaky clean, Like, ooh,

863
00:51:14,725 --> 00:51:17,165
Speaker 1: this is a nice feeling. You know why the way

864
00:51:17,205 --> 00:51:22,445
Speaker 1: you said squeaky just like grow squeak squeaks. It's nice,

865
00:51:22,605 --> 00:51:25,765
Speaker 1: it's good. I don't know, maybe I'll start reading dentistry blogs.

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Speaker 1: So I would just want to say, let's just shout

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00:51:30,445 --> 00:51:32,325
Speaker 1: out to the Vikings. You know, they were doing they

868
00:51:32,365 --> 00:51:34,725
Speaker 1: were doing some teeth decor. They were trying to look hot,

869
00:51:35,205 --> 00:51:36,725
Speaker 1: they were trying to look good. They were trying to

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00:51:36,765 --> 00:51:39,525
Speaker 1: comb their hair. They had their like, you know, their

871
00:51:39,605 --> 00:51:43,245
Speaker 1: gold chains. They were I feel like they were fashionis stus.

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Speaker 1: They definitely were. So give it up for the Vikings

873
00:51:46,205 --> 00:51:49,365
Speaker 1: and they're fashionable pursuits. Do you think of Viking would

874
00:51:49,445 --> 00:51:51,325
Speaker 1: date me? Like if I was back then, do you

875
00:51:51,365 --> 00:51:54,725
Speaker 1: think of Viking would like me? Probably? But also I

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00:51:54,765 --> 00:51:58,045
Speaker 1: should point out the Vikings like half of Viking warriors

877
00:51:58,165 --> 00:52:02,925
Speaker 1: were women, so like they actually everybody, yeah exactly, I'm

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00:52:02,965 --> 00:52:07,285
Speaker 1: just saying that everyone was a toughie of that so much. Um, yeah,

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00:52:07,805 --> 00:52:09,885
Speaker 1: this is so wonderful. I love it. I mean, their

880
00:52:09,925 --> 00:52:12,685
Speaker 1: breath must have been terrible, but I feel like that's

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00:52:12,725 --> 00:52:15,565
Speaker 1: everyone back then. So and even meantime, I'm gonna say

882
00:52:15,605 --> 00:52:17,965
Speaker 1: people now, I don't have the girdst breath sometimes. Oh

883
00:52:18,445 --> 00:52:22,645
Speaker 1: yes there were. There are like evidence of like ancient toothpastes.

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00:52:23,205 --> 00:52:25,845
Speaker 1: Not necessarily for the vikings though, but it's people used

885
00:52:25,885 --> 00:52:27,325
Speaker 1: to like you know that, with chew on ment leaves

886
00:52:27,365 --> 00:52:31,485
Speaker 1: and make like a paste out of some similar ingredients

887
00:52:31,525 --> 00:52:34,365
Speaker 1: that are using like natural tooth paste today. Not not

888
00:52:34,725 --> 00:52:41,245
Speaker 1: stitched nine though, or strict nine sin though there's probably

889
00:52:41,245 --> 00:52:43,485
Speaker 1: some like ancient poisons people put in their mouths to clean.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't endoubt it. I know

891
00:52:45,565 --> 00:52:49,725
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to swallow toothpaste. Then that's not good

892
00:52:49,765 --> 00:52:55,045
Speaker 1: for you. Oh shit, yeah, toothpaste is actually the floor

893
00:52:55,125 --> 00:52:57,445
Speaker 1: I didn't know is what stops us from growing our

894
00:52:57,485 --> 00:52:59,165
Speaker 1: third eye. So don't know if you guys knew that.

895
00:52:59,325 --> 00:53:03,605
Speaker 1: But okay, I'm literally kidding. Well, actually I'm not. I

896
00:53:03,645 --> 00:53:05,845
Speaker 1: have read that book. That's that's a real take from

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00:53:05,885 --> 00:53:08,245
Speaker 1: some people. But I think this feels like a good

898
00:53:08,365 --> 00:53:12,245
Speaker 1: place to not go on another tangent. Yeah, we're ending

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Speaker 1: tangents now, we're ending the conversation. We know about teeth.

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Speaker 1: We know about snakes, we know about poison, we know

901
00:53:18,045 --> 00:53:20,085
Speaker 1: about the vikings. We know a lot more than we

902
00:53:20,205 --> 00:53:23,165
Speaker 1: used to. We know about serial killer. Absolutely, don't forget

903
00:53:23,245 --> 00:53:25,965
Speaker 1: to floss. Don't forget to floss is the main lesson

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Speaker 1: I think we learned today. I'm gonna go do that

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Speaker 1: right now. So we got to end this episode because

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Speaker 1: I'm i gotta do an asaph. All right. This is Cadavergause.

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