WEBVTT - #GirlPower, or Something, with Ryan Webb

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<v Speaker 1>This might be the most epic troll ever. So up

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<v Speaker 1>until three weeks ago, Republican Delaware County Councilman Ryan Webb

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<v Speaker 1>lived his life as a white male. However, he decided

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<v Speaker 1>a post on Facebook his true authentic self, a lesbian

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<v Speaker 1>woman of color, saying that I'm excited to be a

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<v Speaker 1>vocal partner of the LGBTQIAPC plus plus plus movement, saying

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<v Speaker 1>who knows just how far we can take things, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just glad that this is now possible, so anyone

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<v Speaker 1>can be anything or anyone they want. Then he goes

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<v Speaker 1>on to talk about how he's making history now that

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<v Speaker 1>he's the very first lesbian woman of color in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of Delaware County. Goes on to say, I am

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<v Speaker 1>honored to be the one to shatter that glass ceiling

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag girl power. Also, hilariously, he made sure to end

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<v Speaker 1>his post with several emojis, including the American flag, the

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<v Speaker 1>lgbt flag making face, and a flexed arm muscle. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reaction has not been good. I mean, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>getting death thread his neighbors drop trash off. They thought

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<v Speaker 1>of his house, but it was actually his neighbor's house,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was serious, I'd sing his praises, but instead

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<v Speaker 1>I know better.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot believe that I had to take time out

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<v Speaker 2>of my day today to attempt.

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<v Speaker 1>To teach a grown man how to behave appropriately. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel that he should resign, and if.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't, I would look at county counselor to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to lebel and see what take into about removing him.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't they like it? You know, the left has

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<v Speaker 1>told us you can be whoever you want to be.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a little girl, you can be a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a boy, you can be a girl. That

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<v Speaker 1>nothing matters in this chaotic world. He's holding up a

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<v Speaker 1>mirror and they don't like what they see. So why

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<v Speaker 1>won't the left just accept Ryan his true authentic self

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<v Speaker 1>as a lesbian woman of color. We'll talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Delaware County Councilman Ryan Webb joins me next. So, Ryan,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always great to talk to people who are, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>breaking barriers. You were born a white man. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you realize you were actually a woman of color?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I've always felt felt something, but I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't exactly sure what it was, you know, And I've

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<v Speaker 2>been watching the news and listen listening around lately, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been hearing a lot of talk about only a

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<v Speaker 2>woman knows what a woman is, and so I thought, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling something. So I said, I'm going to look

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<v Speaker 2>it up. So you know, I typed it in all

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<v Speaker 2>the major search engines in Google and such, and I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't find anything to give me a clear answer on

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<v Speaker 2>what a woman was. So I thought, well, if only

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<v Speaker 2>a woman knows what a woman is and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>find it anywhere, then this has got to be what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, what I'm feeling. So I said, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is this has gotta be it. So today, as it said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you wake up with a new zest for life?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know about that's a great question. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that I'm her life, but it sure felt

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<v Speaker 2>great to just you know, put that out there and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, start putting one foot in some of the other.

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<v Speaker 1>How has this been for your wife?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, for she she was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>not sure how to But is.

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<v Speaker 1>She a lesbian two now or you know, how does that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously this is all very confusing in today's age.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she a lesbian or how does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I believe it's all intentionally confusing, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think she would claim to be a lesbian,

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<v Speaker 2>although it doesn't change the fact that she is on now.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, she was a little not quite sure

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<v Speaker 2>how to accept it first. But I think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as you sit back and thought about it, she's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>excited to cash in on all the all the benefits

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<v Speaker 2>that come with being a fellow lesbian married to a

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<v Speaker 2>lesbian color, and then also participating in a in a

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<v Speaker 2>very diverse interracial marriage. So you know, we're pretty excited

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<v Speaker 2>about that. We got college aged kids, and we're hoping

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe we can get some more opportunities for the

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<v Speaker 2>kids as far as colleges that they would have previous

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<v Speaker 2>had been accepted too.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw how it benefited Elizabeth Warren throughout her career

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<v Speaker 1>to say that she was a Native American. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would assume for your kids they could potentially claim the

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<v Speaker 1>same status and elevate themselves professionally.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, you know, that's going to be up to

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<v Speaker 2>them if they choose to check that box. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I can't write their journey for them. I

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, try to thave away and let them

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<v Speaker 2>know that, as the child of colors, that they do

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<v Speaker 2>have that option.

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<v Speaker 1>You're breaking barriers because you're you're the first lesbian woman

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<v Speaker 1>of color in the county's council's history. How does it

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<v Speaker 1>feel to be able to be I mean, you could

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<v Speaker 1>potentially run for president and be the first lesbian woman

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<v Speaker 1>of color as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was excited to break that glass ceiling there in

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<v Speaker 2>Delaware County. Now, I didn't receive as such a warm

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<v Speaker 2>welcome as I thought. I was expected someone to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>contact me to like maybe pose for the for the statue,

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<v Speaker 2>mold or the monument. But so far got hurt anything.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm assuming they're probably just playing something small, like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe naming a local park after me or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But so far, I've not heard anything, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've seen people like Dylan mulvaney, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ever since he started saying that he's a woman getting

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<v Speaker 1>endorsement deals bud Light beauty companies. Have any of these

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<v Speaker 1>companies come calling? Do you think this will lead to

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<v Speaker 1>endorsement deals for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I've left the door open. I've not

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<v Speaker 2>received any phone calls yet, but you know, that's funny

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<v Speaker 2>you said Corslight. That's my beer. I've been drinking that

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<v Speaker 2>for or bud Light. Oh yeah, but light. I apologize.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a I don't want to get sued from

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<v Speaker 1>cos you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a Corslight drinker. But you know, just to

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<v Speaker 2>keep the door open. I've been drinking my beer the

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<v Speaker 2>last few days and and a kouzie that covers up

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<v Speaker 2>the name that way, you know, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>close the door on any potential endorsement off of many

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<v Speaker 2>other beer books nobody's called yet quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Commercial break more on the most epic trol ever. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you're essentially holding up a mirror to the

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<v Speaker 1>left right. I mean they tell us you can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a little boy, you can be a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a girl, you can be a boy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you can be whatever you want. So what's the reaction been, like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's it's holding up a mirror and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you see it the same way. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning, there was a lot of backlash. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of pushback. There's a lot of fake outrage,

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<v Speaker 2>mostly by white liberals who felt that they were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be outraged, but as the days have went on,

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<v Speaker 2>that's completely changed. It's probably one hundred to one now

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<v Speaker 2>as far as people reach it out from all over

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<v Speaker 2>the country and all over the Europe and Australia to

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<v Speaker 2>express their love and support. And you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who have kind of been a little

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<v Speaker 2>frustrated with the way society has been moving, and whether

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<v Speaker 2>intentionally or unintentionally, they view this as a so they

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<v Speaker 2>do the reaction that I've received as a reflection, uh

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<v Speaker 2>that the that the political left doesn't really believe in

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<v Speaker 2>their own ideology. So our conservatives, the silent majority has

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<v Speaker 2>been the ones speaking out in support. Uh, the liberal

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<v Speaker 2>left and the intolerant left just they haven't really been

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<v Speaker 2>is on board.

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<v Speaker 1>And why can't people just be who God made them?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we increasingly live in a society where children

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<v Speaker 1>or young people are taught to hate the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they are, that they have to be something different.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I can agree with that, especially someone who you know,

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<v Speaker 2>lived that way for oh, I mean all the way

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<v Speaker 2>up to three weeks ago. So I mean that's the

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<v Speaker 2>that's the lens which I viewed the world. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think I don't know what happened. I just started seeing

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<v Speaker 2>things from different perspective, and for being honest about it,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have been brainwashed by social media.

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<v Speaker 2>So but who knows how it goes. But there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who still have that belief out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just be you and be happy with your beautiful body

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<v Speaker 2>that the Lord gives you.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, have you started dressing differently?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>We did see there was a teacher I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>where he lived, but he started, you know, having prosthetic breasts.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that that's a road that you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to go down to more fully express who you've

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<v Speaker 1>decided to be as of three weeks now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't participate in what someone else's viewpoint or

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<v Speaker 2>what they think a caricature of a woman is. As

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<v Speaker 2>far as you know, makeup breast and dresses and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that, that's for those individuals of what they think

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<v Speaker 2>a woman is. I don't necessarily see a woman is that. Furthermore,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no desire or urge whatsoever to live my

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<v Speaker 2>life as a woman. I just simply know that I

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<v Speaker 2>am a woman, So I'll still continue to do all

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<v Speaker 2>the manly things that the former Ryan Webb has always

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<v Speaker 2>done as a man. You know, this is something I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't choose. So just because I know I'm well, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean that I'm going to force myself to dress

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<v Speaker 2>the part that society has designed for us.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, have your neighbors reacted in any certain way? Do

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<v Speaker 1>they know that you've now changed?

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're if you're going to change your name,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. I'm sorry, I didn't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>heard that. That is one thing I did change, just

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<v Speaker 2>my name. I've already done that didn't really have to

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<v Speaker 2>do too much legally. You know, I am keeping the

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<v Speaker 2>Heat and Him pronouns, and I'm making it easy for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I recognize my own delusion, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want anyone else to have to participate in my delusion.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not going to have different pronouns or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I'm still going to be he and Him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did change my name, but again can make

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<v Speaker 2>that easy for everyone around me. I will now be

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<v Speaker 2>going by Ryan the female version instead of Ryan the

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<v Speaker 2>male version. Shame spelling same. Everything is just when you

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<v Speaker 2>say Ryan, now just know you're saying it the girls Ryan.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that really clears it up. So I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm that you pointed that out, because otherwise I

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<v Speaker 1>would have been thoroughly confused. And obviously after having this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation it all really makes sense now. I'm glad that

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<v Speaker 1>you've kind of clarified this confusing world that we live in.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ryan Webb, but Ryan saying it as a female version,

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<v Speaker 1>not a male version, just for absolute clarity for the

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<v Speaker 1>audience at home, as feminine of Ryan as we can

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<v Speaker 1>say it, I don't know if I need to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan kind of feminize the way I say it. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything else you'd like to leave us with before

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<v Speaker 1>we go?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you had mentioned a minute ago about what my

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors think, and I've only had one neighbor who was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit shocked. But it wasn't because I was

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<v Speaker 2>living as a woman. It was because that the tolerant

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<v Speaker 2>left and the liberal Democrats in our community formed the

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<v Speaker 2>convoy vehicles to come to my house and dump about

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<v Speaker 2>two full trash bags of garbage all over my yard.

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<v Speaker 2>But unfortunately the dear souls couldn't read the address correctly

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<v Speaker 2>and they got my poor poor little old lady neighbor

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<v Speaker 2>next door and dump trash all in her yard. So

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<v Speaker 2>but again, this is this is the this is how

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<v Speaker 2>they are. They bully and they try to intimidate people

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<v Speaker 2>into silencing or capitulating to their views, and but that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't work, they resort to violence or threats. But as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the last thing, I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's really unfortunate that that this is where we're at.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I just make an announcement about how I

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<v Speaker 2>see myself in my own mind God asking anyone else

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<v Speaker 2>to participate or call me, you know, ma'am or anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and it's generated so much attention, and I

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<v Speaker 2>like to focus on the on the more important things

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<v Speaker 2>we're doing in Della work counting. You know, we've increased

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<v Speaker 2>the wages for the shares Department, and we're increasing transparency

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<v Speaker 2>and local government and getting more involvement for community members

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<v Speaker 2>on boards and committees. But nobody's talking about those things. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a little silly, but here we are. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the world burned well.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Webb, he him pronouns officially a lesbian of color,

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<v Speaker 1>breaking the glass ceiling well, hashtag girl power Ryan, but

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan emphasis on a female version of Ryan not a

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<v Speaker 1>male version when I say it, I appreciate you taking

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<v Speaker 1>the time to join the show. Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, thank you for having me and I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you have a wonderful day.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was Ryan Webb obviously shattering the glass ceiling.

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<v Speaker 1>Hashtag girl power to him. Appreciate or yeah you know

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<v Speaker 1>him because he still goes by male pronouns, so appreciate

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