Speaker 1: This might be the most epic troll ever. So up
Speaker 1: until three weeks ago, Republican Delaware County Councilman Ryan Webb
Speaker 1: lived his life as a white male. However, he decided
Speaker 1: a post on Facebook his true authentic self, a lesbian
Speaker 1: woman of color, saying that I'm excited to be a
Speaker 1: vocal partner of the LGBTQIAPC plus plus plus movement, saying
Speaker 1: who knows just how far we can take things, but
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that this is now possible, so anyone
Speaker 1: can be anything or anyone they want. Then he goes
Speaker 1: on to talk about how he's making history now that
Speaker 1: he's the very first lesbian woman of color in the
Speaker 1: history of Delaware County. Goes on to say, I am
Speaker 1: honored to be the one to shatter that glass ceiling
Speaker 1: hashtag girl power. Also, hilariously, he made sure to end
Speaker 1: his post with several emojis, including the American flag, the
Speaker 1: lgbt flag making face, and a flexed arm muscle. But
Speaker 1: the reaction has not been good. I mean, he's been
Speaker 1: getting death thread his neighbors drop trash off. They thought
Speaker 1: of his house, but it was actually his neighbor's house,
Speaker 1: and he was serious, I'd sing his praises, but instead
Speaker 1: I know better.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that I had to take time out
Speaker 2: of my day today to attempt.
Speaker 1: To teach a grown man how to behave appropriately. I
Speaker 1: feel that he should resign, and if.
Speaker 2: He doesn't, I would look at county counselor to talk
Speaker 2: to lebel and see what take into about removing him.
Speaker 1: Why don't they like it? You know, the left has
Speaker 1: told us you can be whoever you want to be.
Speaker 1: If you're a little girl, you can be a boy.
Speaker 1: If you're a boy, you can be a girl. That
Speaker 1: nothing matters in this chaotic world. He's holding up a
Speaker 1: mirror and they don't like what they see. So why
Speaker 1: won't the left just accept Ryan his true authentic self
Speaker 1: as a lesbian woman of color. We'll talk to him.
Speaker 1: Delaware County Councilman Ryan Webb joins me next. So, Ryan,
Speaker 1: it's always great to talk to people who are, you know,
Speaker 1: breaking barriers. You were born a white man. You know,
Speaker 1: when did you realize you were actually a woman of color?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've always felt felt something, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't exactly sure what it was, you know, And I've
Speaker 2: been watching the news and listen listening around lately, and
Speaker 2: I've been hearing a lot of talk about only a
Speaker 2: woman knows what a woman is, and so I thought, well,
Speaker 2: I'm feeling something. So I said, I'm going to look
Speaker 2: it up. So you know, I typed it in all
Speaker 2: the major search engines in Google and such, and I
Speaker 2: couldn't find anything to give me a clear answer on
Speaker 2: what a woman was. So I thought, well, if only
Speaker 2: a woman knows what a woman is and I can't
Speaker 2: find it anywhere, then this has got to be what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what I'm feeling. So I said, well, this
Speaker 2: is this has gotta be it. So today, as it said,
Speaker 2: I'm a woman.
Speaker 1: Do you wake up with a new zest for life?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that's a great question. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I'm her life, but it sure felt
Speaker 2: great to just you know, put that out there and
Speaker 2: you know, start putting one foot in some of the other.
Speaker 1: How has this been for your wife?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, for she she was a little bit
Speaker 2: not sure how to But is.
Speaker 1: She a lesbian two now or you know, how does that?
Speaker 1: You know, obviously this is all very confusing in today's age.
Speaker 1: Is she a lesbian or how does that work?
Speaker 2: Well, I believe it's all intentionally confusing, but you know,
Speaker 2: I don't think she would claim to be a lesbian,
Speaker 2: although it doesn't change the fact that she is on now.
Speaker 2: But you know, she was a little not quite sure
Speaker 2: how to accept it first. But I think you know,
Speaker 2: as you sit back and thought about it, she's pretty
Speaker 2: excited to cash in on all the all the benefits
Speaker 2: that come with being a fellow lesbian married to a
Speaker 2: lesbian color, and then also participating in a in a
Speaker 2: very diverse interracial marriage. So you know, we're pretty excited
Speaker 2: about that. We got college aged kids, and we're hoping
Speaker 2: that maybe we can get some more opportunities for the
Speaker 2: kids as far as colleges that they would have previous
Speaker 2: had been accepted too.
Speaker 1: We saw how it benefited Elizabeth Warren throughout her career
Speaker 1: to say that she was a Native American. So I
Speaker 1: would assume for your kids they could potentially claim the
Speaker 1: same status and elevate themselves professionally.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, that's going to be up to
Speaker 2: them if they choose to check that box. You know,
Speaker 2: I can't I can't write their journey for them. I
Speaker 2: just you know, try to thave away and let them
Speaker 2: know that, as the child of colors, that they do
Speaker 2: have that option.
Speaker 1: You're breaking barriers because you're you're the first lesbian woman
Speaker 1: of color in the county's council's history. How does it
Speaker 1: feel to be able to be I mean, you could
Speaker 1: potentially run for president and be the first lesbian woman
Speaker 1: of color as well.
Speaker 2: I was excited to break that glass ceiling there in
Speaker 2: Delaware County. Now, I didn't receive as such a warm
Speaker 2: welcome as I thought. I was expected someone to, you know,
Speaker 2: contact me to like maybe pose for the for the statue,
Speaker 2: mold or the monument. But so far got hurt anything.
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming they're probably just playing something small, like
Speaker 2: maybe naming a local park after me or something like that.
Speaker 2: But so far, I've not heard anything, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen people like Dylan mulvaney, you know,
Speaker 1: ever since he started saying that he's a woman getting
Speaker 1: endorsement deals bud Light beauty companies. Have any of these
Speaker 1: companies come calling? Do you think this will lead to
Speaker 1: endorsement deals for you?
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I've left the door open. I've not
Speaker 2: received any phone calls yet, but you know, that's funny
Speaker 2: you said Corslight. That's my beer. I've been drinking that
Speaker 2: for or bud Light. Oh yeah, but light. I apologize.
Speaker 1: I have a I don't want to get sued from
Speaker 1: cos you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a Corslight drinker. But you know, just to
Speaker 2: keep the door open. I've been drinking my beer the
Speaker 2: last few days and and a kouzie that covers up
Speaker 2: the name that way, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 2: close the door on any potential endorsement off of many
Speaker 2: other beer books nobody's called yet quick.
Speaker 1: Commercial break more on the most epic trol ever. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean you're essentially holding up a mirror to the
Speaker 1: left right. I mean they tell us you can you know,
Speaker 1: if you're a little boy, you can be a girl.
Speaker 1: If you're a girl, you can be a boy. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can be whatever you want. So what's the reaction been, like.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's it's holding up a mirror and
Speaker 2: I'm glad you see it the same way. You know,
Speaker 2: in the beginning, there was a lot of backlash. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of pushback. There's a lot of fake outrage,
Speaker 2: mostly by white liberals who felt that they were supposed
Speaker 2: to be outraged, but as the days have went on,
Speaker 2: that's completely changed. It's probably one hundred to one now
Speaker 2: as far as people reach it out from all over
Speaker 2: the country and all over the Europe and Australia to
Speaker 2: express their love and support. And you know, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who have kind of been a little
Speaker 2: frustrated with the way society has been moving, and whether
Speaker 2: intentionally or unintentionally, they view this as a so they
Speaker 2: do the reaction that I've received as a reflection, uh
Speaker 2: that the that the political left doesn't really believe in
Speaker 2: their own ideology. So our conservatives, the silent majority has
Speaker 2: been the ones speaking out in support. Uh, the liberal
Speaker 2: left and the intolerant left just they haven't really been
Speaker 2: is on board.
Speaker 1: And why can't people just be who God made them?
Speaker 2: You know? Why?
Speaker 1: Why do we increasingly live in a society where children
Speaker 1: or young people are taught to hate the way that
Speaker 1: they are, that they have to be something different.
Speaker 2: Well I can agree with that, especially someone who you know,
Speaker 2: lived that way for oh, I mean all the way
Speaker 2: up to three weeks ago. So I mean that's the
Speaker 2: that's the lens which I viewed the world. But I
Speaker 2: think I don't know what happened. I just started seeing
Speaker 2: things from different perspective, and for being honest about it,
Speaker 2: I think I might have been brainwashed by social media.
Speaker 2: So but who knows how it goes. But there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people who still have that belief out there.
Speaker 2: Just be you and be happy with your beautiful body
Speaker 2: that the Lord gives you.
Speaker 1: Now, have you started dressing differently?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: We did see there was a teacher I can't remember
Speaker 1: where he lived, but he started, you know, having prosthetic breasts.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that's a road that you would
Speaker 1: like to go down to more fully express who you've
Speaker 1: decided to be as of three weeks now.
Speaker 2: No, I don't participate in what someone else's viewpoint or
Speaker 2: what they think a caricature of a woman is. As
Speaker 2: far as you know, makeup breast and dresses and things
Speaker 2: like that, that's for those individuals of what they think
Speaker 2: a woman is. I don't necessarily see a woman is that. Furthermore,
Speaker 2: I have no desire or urge whatsoever to live my
Speaker 2: life as a woman. I just simply know that I
Speaker 2: am a woman, So I'll still continue to do all
Speaker 2: the manly things that the former Ryan Webb has always
Speaker 2: done as a man. You know, this is something I
Speaker 2: didn't choose. So just because I know I'm well, it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that I'm going to force myself to dress
Speaker 2: the part that society has designed for us.
Speaker 1: Interesting, have your neighbors reacted in any certain way? Do
Speaker 1: they know that you've now changed?
Speaker 2: You know you're if you're going to change your name,
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I'm sorry, I didn't know if you
Speaker 2: heard that. That is one thing I did change, just
Speaker 2: my name. I've already done that didn't really have to
Speaker 2: do too much legally. You know, I am keeping the
Speaker 2: Heat and Him pronouns, and I'm making it easy for everyone.
Speaker 2: So you know, I recognize my own delusion, but I
Speaker 2: don't want anyone else to have to participate in my delusion.
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to have different pronouns or anything
Speaker 2: like that. I'm still going to be he and Him.
Speaker 2: But I did change my name, but again can make
Speaker 2: that easy for everyone around me. I will now be
Speaker 2: going by Ryan the female version instead of Ryan the
Speaker 2: male version. Shame spelling same. Everything is just when you
Speaker 2: say Ryan, now just know you're saying it the girls Ryan.
Speaker 1: I mean that really clears it up. So I'm glad
Speaker 1: that I'm that you pointed that out, because otherwise I
Speaker 1: would have been thoroughly confused. And obviously after having this
Speaker 1: conversation it all really makes sense now. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: you've kind of clarified this confusing world that we live in.
Speaker 1: So Ryan Webb, but Ryan saying it as a female version,
Speaker 1: not a male version, just for absolute clarity for the
Speaker 1: audience at home, as feminine of Ryan as we can
Speaker 1: say it, I don't know if I need to, you know,
Speaker 1: Ryan kind of feminize the way I say it. Is
Speaker 1: there anything else you'd like to leave us with before
Speaker 1: we go?
Speaker 2: Well, you had mentioned a minute ago about what my
Speaker 2: neighbors think, and I've only had one neighbor who was
Speaker 2: a little bit shocked. But it wasn't because I was
Speaker 2: living as a woman. It was because that the tolerant
Speaker 2: left and the liberal Democrats in our community formed the
Speaker 2: convoy vehicles to come to my house and dump about
Speaker 2: two full trash bags of garbage all over my yard.
Speaker 2: But unfortunately the dear souls couldn't read the address correctly
Speaker 2: and they got my poor poor little old lady neighbor
Speaker 2: next door and dump trash all in her yard. So
Speaker 2: but again, this is this is the this is how
Speaker 2: they are. They bully and they try to intimidate people
Speaker 2: into silencing or capitulating to their views, and but that
Speaker 2: doesn't work, they resort to violence or threats. But as
Speaker 2: far as the last thing, I would say, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's really unfortunate that that this is where we're at.
Speaker 2: You know, I just make an announcement about how I
Speaker 2: see myself in my own mind God asking anyone else
Speaker 2: to participate or call me, you know, ma'am or anything
Speaker 2: like that, and it's generated so much attention, and I
Speaker 2: like to focus on the on the more important things
Speaker 2: we're doing in Della work counting. You know, we've increased
Speaker 2: the wages for the shares Department, and we're increasing transparency
Speaker 2: and local government and getting more involvement for community members
Speaker 2: on boards and committees. But nobody's talking about those things. So,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a little silly, but here we are. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: that's the world burned well.
Speaker 1: Ryan Webb, he him pronouns officially a lesbian of color,
Speaker 1: breaking the glass ceiling well, hashtag girl power Ryan, but
Speaker 1: Ryan emphasis on a female version of Ryan not a
Speaker 1: male version when I say it, I appreciate you taking
Speaker 1: the time to join the show. Thanks so much.
Speaker 2: Oh well, thank you for having me and I hope
Speaker 2: you have a wonderful day.
Speaker 1: So that was Ryan Webb obviously shattering the glass ceiling.
Speaker 1: Hashtag girl power to him. Appreciate or yeah you know
Speaker 1: him because he still goes by male pronouns, so appreciate
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