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Speaker 1: it up for the weekend, including the end of OTAs

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Speaker 1: the Bill's final OTA session today. Next week they start

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Speaker 1: to Bill's Football, NFL football with you. Good afternoon, everybody,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy long to id My broadcast partner, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: A very good, gracious afternoon to you. Thanks for tuning

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Speaker 1: in today to what we're just saying. No, we're like

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Speaker 1: everybody else. I think, you know on Friday's round this time.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna do this weekend? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You gotta think fun play. We're gonna talk about what

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Speaker 1: we got planned. We got coming in some morning and

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Speaker 1: Howard Simon, those guys had I made my first highlight

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Speaker 1: show in twenty years. They had my rant on, Yesterho.

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Speaker 1: I had hardly ever do it. Man. I bit his

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Speaker 1: they had it on. They put my rant on. That's

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Speaker 1: the first highlight that maybe my first highlight show ever.

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Speaker 1: You mean your first rant that's been used on, well, rant, certainly,

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Speaker 1: it's my first rant. I mean, we're upset. You may

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Speaker 1: be more than me, but it's just such a I

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Speaker 1: don't want to get right back into it, but let's

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Speaker 1: do it. Such a sign of disrespect to all the

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Speaker 1: other Hall of famers, including the seven going in with

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Speaker 1: Just a terrible, self centered sign of disrespect. It's not criminal,

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Speaker 1: it's not It doesn't have that big, you know, big

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Speaker 1: an impact. Nobody will miss him, by the way. It

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Speaker 1: maybe makes the whole Hall of Fame induction ceremony a

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Speaker 1: it's just a terrible sign of disrespect. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: You know. Some people say, well, this is his way

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Speaker 1: it's okay. The way Jerry Kramer's going to the Hall

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Speaker 1: a terrible sign of disrespect. You want to I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you visited. You want to pull back down here? Really? No, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what I've you know, and you get a

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Speaker 1: And there there it was this vega, the green they

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Speaker 1: So well, the Elm Street Baker in easter Or sells

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Speaker 1: I could just feel my body soaking it in. It

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Speaker 1: what's the upshot here. Your pizza take remains in tech,

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Speaker 1: You know it's not Listen, Budweiser, Coors and Lobat and

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna go out with your like I said,

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Speaker 1: the beer theory I could tweak, yeah, a little bit,

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Speaker 1: have any of my pepperoni pizza. Right, if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: sneaking a pizza my pepperoni. Yeah. If you don't want

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Speaker 1: to eat pizza, don't eat pizza, but don't order a pizza.

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Speaker 1: Expect me to eat your whatever it is you order

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Speaker 1: your vegetable pie. I can't agree with you more. I agree,

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Speaker 1: garden cheese pie that doesn't even count as pizza. That's

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Speaker 1: my point, you know how, I'm like anti replaying in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. This is gonna be your cause, Pizza Causa,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna work. You're probably more success than my

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Speaker 1: replay anti replay. I will tweak my beer. My beer

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Speaker 1: philosophy he is always because you know, you get something

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying. The beer thing the other night hit

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Speaker 1: the owner anyway, he's a friend of mine. I spent

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Speaker 1: these coaches and these young players like Josh Allen are

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Speaker 1: invested in. They are veteran guys who have been around

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Speaker 1: the league or rookie players who have been around the league.

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Speaker 1: These guys have invested and gotten onto the Buffalo Bill's

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Speaker 1: football team, and they are fully into it. They hurt,

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Speaker 1: they sacrifice, they work hard, They are fully invested. It

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Speaker 1: is impossible to hold a group like that in a

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Speaker 1: cohesive manner when you are not accountable and everybody's not

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Speaker 1: accountable to what's going on on the field. Meaning this,

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Speaker 1: in this situation we're talking about with a Twitter poll,

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Speaker 1: if you've got a young player like Josh Allen, who's

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Speaker 1: it supremely gifted like Tremaine Edmonds, He's supremely gifted. Two

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Speaker 1: different players at two different positions that require different things.

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Speaker 1: And that's why one of them, like Tremaine Edmonds, is

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Speaker 1: on the field right away number one guy, because right

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Speaker 1: now in that spot, in this position, in this situation,

435
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Speaker 1: he gives them the best chance to win if he's

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Speaker 1: standing in that spot on the field with the ones. Conversely,

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the football, Josh Allen. That

438
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Speaker 1: position requires a lot of other stuff that other players

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Speaker 1: around the team don't even know about. All they can

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Speaker 1: do is watch and look and learn and listen and

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Speaker 1: take and evaluate. And they're in the meetings room with him.

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Speaker 1: AJ McCarron's in there, Nate Peterman's in there. The guys

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Speaker 1: are catching passes from all of these guys. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: The atmosphere says this, at this point, three weeks into

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Speaker 1: what we all hope is a seventeen year Pro Football

446
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame career for Josh Allen, we're three weeks

447
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Speaker 1: into it at this point. AJ McCarron gives the team

448
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Speaker 1: the best chance to win. That's why he's taken rips

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Speaker 1: with the number two. Nate mcca. Nate Nate Peterman is

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Speaker 1: the next guy in line. He's the next guy that

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Speaker 1: doesn't Those guys, through their play in the NFL, through

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Speaker 1: their veteranship, through the hierarchy, through whatever evaluation process you

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Speaker 1: want to put, those guys give them the best chance

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Speaker 1: to win. That's the only reason they are ahead of

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. And the moment, the micro second, that that

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Speaker 1: changes Josh Allen's gonna take their job, Steve, I don't

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Speaker 1: disagree with you. I'm bringing up and thought it'd be

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Speaker 1: a good Twitter poll because of the questions yesterday. Eventually

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Speaker 1: the question we'll be asked, well, wait a minute, why

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Speaker 1: isn't your guy getting first team reps? On Twitter? On

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, Ben Wagner has a simple response to

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Speaker 1: that Twitter poll. When we ask, you know, when should

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Speaker 1: are they taking the right of approach with Josh Allen?

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Speaker 1: When should they get first team reps? Ben Wagner says,

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Speaker 1: first round picks get first round reps. First round picks

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Speaker 1: get first team reps. And I get that. That's not

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Speaker 1: you know, there's a point there, that's a valid point,

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Speaker 1: And I get you know what, Ben Wagner's a great fan.

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Speaker 1: Great fans want don't want to waste a first round

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Speaker 1: pick on a guy who can't swagger through the door,

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Speaker 1: bust through the door of the saloon, start hitting people

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Speaker 1: in the mouth on day one. I get it. And

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Speaker 1: that's and sometimes they can do it. Hey, Tremaine Edmonds

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Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, it's a different animal though, on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the ball with a quarterback. I get it.

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Speaker 1: And let me just say to Nip this in the bud.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with Josh Allen. There's nothing wrong with

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Speaker 1: his first three weeks of OTA's. They don't feel like

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Speaker 1: he's you know, uh not, you know, living up to

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Speaker 1: his first round status. They do feel and McDermott mentioned

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Speaker 1: it yesterday. The other two were here for a month

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Speaker 1: or more before you know, Josh Allen got to look

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Speaker 1: at the playbook and had a seat in the in

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Speaker 1: the quarterback room. And I believe that's why they're at

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Speaker 1: where they're at right now. Yeah, and you think about

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Speaker 1: it too. Here's here's another Twitter poll for a later time. Wait,

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Speaker 1: let me get a pen yet, When do you start

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Speaker 1: to worry that he's not taken first reps? Right? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of this is the prelude to that question.

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Speaker 1: I hope we don't get to that question. Right When

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Speaker 1: do you start to worry that he's not taking first

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Speaker 1: team reps? And certainly it's not now, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: why I'm not worried about that now? No, what if

494
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Speaker 1: he's what if he's never active for a game this

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Speaker 1: year as the backup? That would be that's a question,

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Speaker 1: you know, because all we're trying to do is take

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Speaker 1: the temperature of the fans here. When do you think

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Speaker 1: it's appropriate that he get first team reps? Reps in practice.

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Speaker 1: We're not talking about starting the preseason game here. And listen,

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Speaker 1: for me sitting here as this pompous old guy who

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Speaker 1: used to play, I say, make him earn it. Make

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Speaker 1: him earn it because all you know all that stuff. Listen, Um,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a point where it's gonna be, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, why can't he earn it? You know, I

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Speaker 1: mean there's and that's not And for a guy like

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, with his physical gifts, it shouldn't be too

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Speaker 1: long before he starts to say, okay and then say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, he looks better than Nate. Let's move

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Speaker 1: him up. You know that's that That shouldn't be too long.

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Speaker 1: But now it's not the time. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I get it. I want to see him as much

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Speaker 1: as anybody because I'm curious, not because I think he's

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Speaker 1: better than any of these guys, because I haven't been

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Speaker 1: seen enough. That's what we want to hear from you today.

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Speaker 1: On the phone lines, they're open eight oh three oh

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Speaker 1: five fifty or from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty On Twitter, you can vote

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Speaker 1: on our Twitter poll when should Allen get first team reps?

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Speaker 1: Are the Bills taking their right approach with Josh Allen?

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Speaker 1: On our tweet sheets some of the tweets sent into

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Speaker 1: US Minicamp, give him, give him some looks with live

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Speaker 1: AMMO against the Ones in preseason and see what he has.

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Speaker 1: That said, I believe he should still start twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: with the clipboard and a cap and learn behind a J. R.

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Speaker 1: Peterman for at least eight games so as not to

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Speaker 1: ruin him during that first hard stretch of twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: And I answer, I get it too, because here we

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Speaker 1: all know what we're talking about. Here, we've seen these

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks go in like you think back to like

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Speaker 1: Tim Couch or or the great the great. Real example

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Speaker 1: of this is Derek Carr, David Carr's older brother, who

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Speaker 1: was the first round, first player picked in the draft.

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Speaker 1: You got it the other way around? Oh do I

534
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr with the Raiders now? Yeah, David Carr David

535
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Speaker 1: Carr first pick of the draft way back in the

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Speaker 1: day when the Houston Texans came on the scene. He

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Speaker 1: got drafted first overall thrust into the starting role and

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Speaker 1: got beat up on a bad he was he got

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Speaker 1: and it ruined him. He was never the quarterback he

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Speaker 1: could have been, would have been, should have been, thought

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Speaker 1: they would have been. Uh, And a lot of it

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Speaker 1: has to go with his develop him being warped by

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Speaker 1: the fact that he couldn't stand back there and throw

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Speaker 1: it because he didn't have any time to do so,

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Speaker 1: he couldn't learn that. He didn't he couldn't run real

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Speaker 1: reps because he never got a chance to play in

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Speaker 1: a real game because he was always on his back

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Speaker 1: or on his face or on his side. He was

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Speaker 1: on the ground. So that's the guy. You know, when

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Speaker 1: you bring a guy in, that's always the fear if

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Speaker 1: you put him in too early. Now, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that the Bills don't have an offensive line that can't

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Speaker 1: protect him. I think they're going to be able to

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Speaker 1: protect him with this group of guys. And you can say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there was some question marks the offensive line. They've addressed

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Speaker 1: him and they feel good with the group they've got

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Speaker 1: going forward. So I don't think they're gonna be like

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Speaker 1: an expansion Houston Texan team was twenty years ago. This

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a club that can protect the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and allow him to play quarterback the way you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to if he can. But if you put him out,

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Speaker 1: that's always the fear. You put him out there too soon,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, and he gets fearful. He starts

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Speaker 1: to learn bad habits because he's fearful. He starts to

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Speaker 1: not look at the field, a look at the rush

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Speaker 1: because he's been hit so many times, or what have you.

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Speaker 1: Or he's gonna get so confused because he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: enough you know, enough experience to know that if you

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Speaker 1: just hang on for just a half second longer, things

570
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: are going to be clearer for you. He gets rid

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Speaker 1: of the ball, all these things that we fear from

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Speaker 1: putting him in too soon. That's the great fear. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I think all of us know that when

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Speaker 1: he's ready, okay, we'll move him up there. But with

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Speaker 1: a guy of his caliber and of his draft status,

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Speaker 1: you expect that to happen. Yeah, pretty soon. Yeah, let's discuss.

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Speaker 1: You might have some thoughts on this. We can do

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Speaker 1: it on Twitter, we can do it on the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: A call here from Brian on Grand Island. Go ahead, Brian,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? Heymurph, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: So I have a question. So I know that they're

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Speaker 1: looking at Josh Allen. He's number three on the team, right,

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Speaker 1: how much of this do you think A play of

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Speaker 1: this is trying to figure out whether or not come

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Speaker 1: day one of the season, they're gonna either cut Peterman

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Speaker 1: or McCarron right and giving me both those guys are

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Speaker 1: shot either be the number one, you know, first game

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Speaker 1: of the year or number two on this team. Right.

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00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna get rid of Allen, right,

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Speaker 1: but Peterman may go. They may cut Peterman and McCarron right,

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Speaker 1: depending on who wins the job. So that is to

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Speaker 1: give those two guys a fair shake to be the one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, and Steve will have some thoughts on this,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think that first of all, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's a motivating factor. And make sure we were

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Speaker 1: fair to these guys number two. I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: of all three or on the roster when the season begins. See, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question they're trying to be

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Speaker 1: fair to both quarterbacks other than Josh Allen. Both to

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Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman and to AJ McCarron. They've got to be

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Speaker 1: fair to everybody in the roster that starts with the

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Speaker 1: quarterback room, no question about it. And I wouldn't put

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Speaker 1: any that off the table what you said, I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna They're gonna do what's best for their

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00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: football team. And if it means one, two or whatever,

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00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: not a doubt. But one or two of these guys

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00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: will probably be here, but one or two of them

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00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: may not so, but they're gonna do what's best for

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Speaker 1: their football team. And they're gonna be fair to all

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Speaker 1: three of these guys and give him a chance to

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Speaker 1: show their put their best foot forward. I'll bet Nate

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Speaker 1: Peterman is going to get a chance to run with

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Speaker 1: the ones. I'll bet Josh Allen will as well. But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing, and you think about timetables. This coaching

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00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: staff had Nate Peterman as a fifth round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: In the middle of the last season, they gave him

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Speaker 1: the starting job. So Nate Peterman is a fifth round talents,

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Speaker 1: as was proven by the fact that the Bills got

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Speaker 1: him in the fifth round. AJ McCarron was a fifth

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Speaker 1: round town although he's proven to be I think a

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Speaker 1: little better than that in the way he played in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and he's playing behind an incumbent guy who's making nine

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Speaker 1: figures on this contract. He's not gonna beat out Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton no matter how bad Andy Dalton is playing in

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Speaker 1: that organization. That's just the way it is. I said,

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Speaker 1: no matter how good Aj was for the Cincinnati Bengals,

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Speaker 1: he is not gonna play ahead of Andy Dalton under

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Speaker 1: any circumstances, even if he played way better than he did,

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Speaker 1: because that is But that's the way it is in

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Speaker 1: that in that situation, in that city, in that organization.

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Speaker 1: It's the way they do things. So so you got,

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Speaker 1: but you got. But here's the thing that's my point.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a starting point timeframe. Nate Peterman got

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Speaker 1: on the field ahead of Tyrod Taylor eight games into

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Speaker 1: the year as a fifth round draft pick. So I

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Speaker 1: would say AJ mccerrn's a little better than Nate Peterman.

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Speaker 1: But I also think Josh Allen's better than Nate Peterman

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Speaker 1: ability wise. There's there's your starting time frame right there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you if you look at

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Speaker 1: it analytically like that, this if it's not got but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't going well for Tyrod Taylor either. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know how good AJ McCarron's gonna play. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so that that affects the timeline as well. I think

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Speaker 1: a J. McCarron's gonna throw the football better than Tyrod Taylor.

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Speaker 1: But there's gonna be a handful of plays during every

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Speaker 1: game that Tyrod Taylor made that we all saw that

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Speaker 1: nobody else is gonna make. But there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: plays that we saw Tyrod not make that every quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the league will make. That's why he's not here.

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Speaker 1: So how much difference between AJ McCarron on the field

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Speaker 1: and Tyrod Taylor? And then you put you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying kind of there's a I'm starting to going

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Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole here you are, because that's the

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Speaker 1: time frame. AJ Peterman got on the field at eighth

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Speaker 1: game last year in front of Tyrod Taylor. Nathan Peterman

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Speaker 1: is game ten. They were okay, game ten. So that's

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Speaker 1: the time frame. Because Josh Allen is now working against

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Speaker 1: a guy like Nate and a J. Mccainson. He's a

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Speaker 1: high draft pick and he was a first round Bathway

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Speaker 1: with his talent. How long is that? Maybe that's the

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Speaker 1: time that's well, that's a that's Nathan Peterman's time frame

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Speaker 1: right as a fifth round draft pick on this coaching staff, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that means that's going to be

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Speaker 1: the same time frame for Josh Allen. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I think James Sean mcderman says, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: do that again. I'll wait. Is aj McCarron gonna get

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Speaker 1: us to a point where you know that was a

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Speaker 1: different situation. That's that was a different switch out for

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Speaker 1: different It wasn't because Nathan Peterman out played him. Is

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Speaker 1: because Tyrod couldn't throw it. They were throwing the ball

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Speaker 1: for fifty six yards. So yeah, you were calling those gates.

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Speaker 1: So there's your time frame. I mean, you know this lies.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's okay. But let me tell

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Speaker 1: you this, there's another aspect of it. You think this

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Speaker 1: coaching staff would hesitate to make a change. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 1: making that change. They'll do it maybe sooner as soon

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Speaker 1: as it's ready. They're making it. What do you think

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Speaker 1: when should Josh Allen get first team reps? We're not

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Speaker 1: talking about starts here, reps with the first teamers, hasn't

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Speaker 1: really done it yet. Final day of OTA today, the

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Speaker 1: Bills taking the right approach with johnh Allen. We'll take

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on this um the telephone line eight fifty

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Speaker 1: or toll free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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Speaker 1: vote on a Twitter pole or tweet in your answer.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about this when we come back. It is

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health from One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We're back on the air,

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Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker live from One Bills Drive. Bills

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Speaker 1: working through their OTA's final OTA session today. Organized team activity.

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Speaker 1: You know it's funny, Steve, when that turn. They didn't

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Speaker 1: call them OTAs when you played right. No nobody knew

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Speaker 1: what that was when it first started being used about

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Speaker 1: ten years ago. Now we say it like OTA. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's an Okay, it's okay. There are people out there,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, driving around thinking what does OTA mean? Organized

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Speaker 1: team activity? It comes up when they get into the

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Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement and they say, okay, what is it

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Speaker 1: gonna what is it gonna look like? All right, anytime

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Speaker 1: there's an organized team activity, we have to do that,

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Speaker 1: and they go, okay, listen, they called him Ota. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're talking today about when the first team reps should

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Speaker 1: come for Josh Allen. There the Bills taking the right approach?

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Speaker 1: Are you they're being too cautious working them with the

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Speaker 1: three so far? Three weeks in. It seems pretty early, still,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. Let's know what you think. Eight oh three

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Speaker 1: oh five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. David on the line from Brockport,

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Speaker 1: New your collo David, welcome to the show. Hi, Hi,

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Speaker 1: Steven finally talked to you, Steve, glad you're on. What

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Speaker 1: do you got for us? Dave? Well, I got two things. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be when Sean mcdermock and the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks coach says he's ready. Sean mcdermot's already

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Speaker 1: shared there's a lot of tweaking the zoo on Josh Allen. Right, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I tried you two months ago. Um, I have have

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Speaker 1: an idea on kickoffs. Let's hear it. Well, Um, these

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Speaker 1: teammates that BB and Mark Kelsell had concussions and they

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Speaker 1: went to the bubble helmets and never got a concussion again.

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Speaker 1: NFL it went to bubble helmets, it would be a

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Speaker 1: lot more safer for them. Yeah, you're right, and Dave,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call that you're right that they are

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Speaker 1: doing a lot with equipment. The helmets they use now

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Speaker 1: are completely different than the one than the ones we

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Speaker 1: use in ours were you know, space age technology back

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Speaker 1: then and then and now they've gone even further there.

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Speaker 1: You're right, they could do a lot of things with

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Speaker 1: the helmets and they probably will. There's some technology out

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Speaker 1: there now that will make it infinitely safer. One thing

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Speaker 1: that you have to remember is when the NFL makes

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Speaker 1: a change of that nature, it has a trickle down effect,

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Speaker 1: and I think there will be changes you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: guys wearing. And even now, if you look closely the

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Speaker 1: helmets that they use a year to year to year,

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Speaker 1: they're all changing just a little bit, just a little bit,

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Speaker 1: just a little bit. And now for the first time,

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Speaker 1: the NFL has started to outlaw certain types of helmets

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Speaker 1: that guys cannot use anymore, the bottom helmets in the

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Speaker 1: safety regulations and stuff. They won't even let their guys wear,

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Speaker 1: so they have started to distill the types of helmets

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Speaker 1: by the distillation process, meaning there's a couple of hundred

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Speaker 1: helmet manufacturers. They're starting to raise the bars to what

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Speaker 1: those helmets have to do before guys can wear them.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's obviously, for lack of a

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Speaker 1: better term, and pardon the pun, it's a no brainer

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Speaker 1: to do that. I was gonna say, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know how, I better couch that that analogy, But

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Speaker 1: this is a no brainer. They should absolutely protect their brains. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and also that that stuff, You're right, it is when

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Speaker 1: and I do I trust this coaching staff. I trust

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Speaker 1: coaches quite a bit. I had a number of high

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Speaker 1: quality coaches from Ted Marcha Broda and Nick Nikolau all

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Speaker 1: the way down to Tom Bresnahan and uh, you know

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Speaker 1: Ted Toler, all those guys that I had, Charlie Joyner,

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Speaker 1: Bruce de haven Um. I really trust those guys who

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Speaker 1: are in the room with these quarterbacks and on the

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Speaker 1: field with the quarterbacks and the and the coaches who

756
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Speaker 1: watch and talk about them and know what exactly what

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00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do on every play and watch them.

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Speaker 1: They know what they're thinking. They talk to the players

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Speaker 1: on they study the film with those players in the

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00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: room and they talk about what they're seeing and what

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Speaker 1: they're feeling, what the play was called, what the defense

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Speaker 1: looks like, who's put who's getting open, and if the

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Speaker 1: receiver ran a good route or if he ran a

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Speaker 1: bad route, or if he ran an okay route, or

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Speaker 1: if he ran the wrong route, um, you know, or

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Speaker 1: if the receiver ran the right route and the quarterback

767
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: was expecting the wrong route, and all this stuff gets

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Speaker 1: mixed into it. It's a it's a I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable amount of information and evaluation that goes into it.

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Speaker 1: So I trust all those guys. They're in there, and

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Speaker 1: when a kid gets ready to play, they put him in.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just no two ways about it. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes these guys get on the field. And unfortunately, some

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Speaker 1: of these guys get on the field because they're the

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Speaker 1: last guy stand it, you know. I mean, you get

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Speaker 1: into a position where we we gotta play it, you know,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know that's you know, you don't want

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Speaker 1: ever want to get into that situation. But believe me,

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Speaker 1: when when Sean McDermott, Brian Dable and David Culley decided

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is the guy that decision will be made

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Speaker 1: quickly and decisively. And those guys in the room, the

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Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, they'll know it too. They'll know it's close

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Speaker 1: to they'll see it coming. It's coming, you know, they'll

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Speaker 1: they'll see it. It's all gonna happen. It's not going

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Speaker 1: to be a surprise to anybody in the room. And

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Speaker 1: when you do it that way, there's never a you know,

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Speaker 1: you never take step backwards. You know, you never take

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Speaker 1: steps backwards, and even if you struggle with the guy

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Speaker 1: in the field, you'd still know he's going to be

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Speaker 1: the best guy. We're talking about when Josh Allen, will

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Speaker 1: you get first team reps? There have been a lot

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Speaker 1: of reps for another Bill's draft pick, Harrison Phillips, third

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Speaker 1: rounder defensive tackle from Stanford. Steve got a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk to him as he came off the field after

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Speaker 1: yesterday's Ota Steve Tasker with Bill's third round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, Harry, talk to me a little bit about

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Speaker 1: how this is transforming. I mean, you've been here for

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Speaker 1: a few weeks now now you're kind of you're you

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Speaker 1: know where everything is in the building, you know, all

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Speaker 1: that new stuff. You kind of feel like you gotta

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Speaker 1: start feeling a little bit more comfortable now. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit. You know, I kind of believe

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Speaker 1: that you can never really test how cold the water

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Speaker 1: is with one foot, you know, kind of guy to

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Speaker 1: just jump all into it. And so that's kind of

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Speaker 1: how the process was here, a little baptism by fire

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Speaker 1: and um, it's been good. And uh you know, I

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Speaker 1: think that this transition period when we finish OTAs and

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Speaker 1: Rookie Mini mandatory Minicamp, when we have that transition time off,

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Speaker 1: you know, see what we can recall, get in the

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Speaker 1: playbook on our own time and go over the stuff

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Speaker 1: that we individually need to you know, kind of get

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Speaker 1: better on and come training camp. You know, hope to

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Speaker 1: to wile the coaches with how well you know the schemes.

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about what it's like in your

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Speaker 1: room now with a defensive limb. You've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of real age veterans. You got Kyle, you got Trent Murphy,

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Speaker 1: You've got star Low two Lelee, you got these guys

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Speaker 1: in there that have been around the block. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of a tough room to kind of get acclimated too,

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Speaker 1: but then again a lot to learn. Well, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know everything we talk about in the Bills organizations playoff

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Speaker 1: caliber and you look in that room and that's playoff

824
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Speaker 1: caliber people and even maybe even higher expectations and so um.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's aligning and assigning and doing your job with

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Speaker 1: no mental errors, or it's how you approach the lift

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Speaker 1: your mindset towards practice, how your locker looks as a

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Speaker 1: clean to dirty, whatever it may be, it's really easy

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Speaker 1: to follow. You know, we have the answers to the test,

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Speaker 1: and that's in those guys that you just name and

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Speaker 1: Kyle and Starr and Trent and Jerry. That's the answer

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Speaker 1: to the test. Just follow what they do, do what

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Speaker 1: they do, and you know, hopefully it'll catch up with

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Speaker 1: all of us. Have they talked to you about the

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Speaker 1: philosophy of this defense? In the NFL? You see so

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Speaker 1: many teams for a successful role, maybe eight defensive linemen

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Speaker 1: through so they can stay fresh pass rushers against a

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Speaker 1: depleted offensive line or an offensive line that doesn't get

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Speaker 1: to take a break. Have you guys started to talk

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Speaker 1: about that kind of rotation in your philosophy? Uh? No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think we have. You know, we're playing some

842
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks in the league, and they understand

843
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: that subbing stuff. So if they do see you subbing,

844
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: they can hurry up and just snap the ball off

845
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: really quick so they can get a flag against whatever

846
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: that may be. So I think the mind's asked to

847
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: be you're not gonna get a sub and to prepare

848
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: out here like that. And you know, there's kind of

849
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: some sayings like you could get an amazing triathlone, hey

850
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: make him go rush the passer eight times in a row.

851
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna be gassed, and so the same thing. It's

852
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: a really hard thing to do. But it's a mindset

853
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: more than anything. Talk a little bit about your own

854
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: personal development. I mean, you got in here, you know,

855
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: what is it about your game that you think actually

856
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: you bring you think, okay, I can do that. What

857
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: are some of the things And conversely, what are some

858
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: of the things to say, Wow, I wish I knew

859
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: more about this. You know, the defense is just different

860
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: to what I played in college Stanford, a lot of

861
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: read and catch techniques. So going back to old habits

862
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: is something that I'm gonna continue to have to overcome

863
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: and fight through schematically, you know, getting that stuff down.

864
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I'll be okay in that aspect, but

865
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: you know, you can every really catch perfection, so you know,

866
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: always shining as hard as I can to do everything

867
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: I can to contribute any way that I can. And

868
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: for me, there's a lot of individual things that that

869
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: looks like, but I can't really go and all that.

870
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: So you talk about these the guys you're in the

871
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: room with this defensive line group. What is their thought?

872
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: What are the conversations like in your meeting rooms about

873
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: how good this group could be or how good they

874
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: really have to be? It's hard. We don't have the

875
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: pads on yet, and you know, so much of this

876
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: practice is I think, you know, the organization can be

877
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: fined if it's too physical or something like that. So, um,

878
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: it's hard setting things up without having a power of

879
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: rush and being able to feel what a double team

880
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: is really like or cutting. Um. So I think, right now,

881
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: let's make sure that you are exactly where you're supposed

882
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: to be doing your job and knowing other people around

883
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: you are doing as well. And then how how smart

884
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: can you get? Can you can you anticipate the offensive

885
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: play types? You know, should you cheat your stance this

886
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: way or this way based on what you see. That's

887
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: what this is about. Um, I think the pads have

888
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: to come on and we have fantastic offensive group that

889
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: we got to go against all training camping. Maybe through

890
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: that process that the talk lights starts stirring about how

891
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: great we can be. Harry, thanks for taking a couple

892
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: of minutes. Appreciate it. Thank you very much. Appreciate you.

893
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with Harrison Phillips. I love here's a guy,

894
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips. And even yesterday and when when you talked

895
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: with some of the rookies. So they've been here since

896
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: um what may tenth or so, So they've been here

897
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: a month, and yet they all know enough to say

898
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: playoff caliber. You know, they know they it's like they

899
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: got a playbook. They got they got like a script.

900
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Make sure you say plays like the rest of the

901
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: drinking the kool aid man exactly. They've been chu which

902
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: is good. That's what you want from your rookies right

903
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: especially early on here. Yeah, they want to You want

904
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: them to get the message, and not only get the

905
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: message verbally with the you know, with all the rhetoric

906
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: like all the you know, whatever slogans you have, like

907
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: you know, playoff caliber. But they start by getting around

908
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: here and getting I mean, because we could do that.

909
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: We're not even the locker room. We can all we

910
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: can all recite trust the process and playoff caliber and

911
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: one heart beat louder and all this this stuff that

912
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: we're kind of hearing. But when they get inside the

913
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: building and inside the room and talking to those guys,

914
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: they know what it means. They see how it works,

915
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: they see what it means, they see why they use

916
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: those words. And that's it's not just when you're in

917
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: the room. I never remember I remember it very well.

918
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: It's not a slogan. It's a it's a thought process.

919
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you you believe it, live it, it's

920
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: you know, you start to grab hold of it. It's

921
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: it becomes kind of fun, and it's kind of cool

922
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: to see these young guys being acclimated into it. All right, Well,

923
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: take a break, we're back with more. We've got a

924
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: J McCarron coming up on the show in a couple

925
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: of minutes, so stick around for that. John Murphy, Steve Tasker. Here,

926
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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

927
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live Steve Task

928
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,959
Speaker 1: along with John Murphy here that our one Bill's Live

929
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: Studios on one Buffalo. Is that what it is? One

930
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo studio right in the wall because we have the

931
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: hockey guys in it too. Exactly a deal you want

932
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: to make the hockey guys mad a j mcameron. I'm

933
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: gonna join us after practice today. The Bill is still

934
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: on the practice field, believe it or not. Um the

935
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: planet Ota day. Back to Harrison Phillips. You talked to

936
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: him yesterday after practice. Smart guy. You can tell that

937
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: it is amazing how much he looks, sounds and even

938
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: runs around like Kyle Williams. Looks almost identical, articulate. Yeah,

939
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: sharp kid, got a you know as a uh yeah.

940
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: He's just the kind of guy that fits into this

941
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: uh finger quotes process, you know. And the guy that's

942
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 1: uh you know, he's he's fully invested. He said, he says,

943
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: you can't test the temperature of the water by with

944
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: one foot. He jumped in with both feet and he's

945
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: just uh, he's like we had him on I think

946
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: the day maybe two days after he was drafted by

947
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: the Buffalo bills and even then he said he had

948
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: reached out to all his fellow draft class and yeah,

949
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: texted him, said, hey, can't wait to get here and all.

950
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: It's just one of the first rounder does that. But

951
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: a third rounder doing that, it's pretty interesting, you know

952
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, Hey, the first rounder might say, well,

953
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: I'm the you know, the leader, I'm the first rounder,

954
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: the leader of the twenty eighteen draft class. Third rounder

955
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: could never say that, but he took it upon himself

956
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah. Pretty And I think it's interesting

957
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: too that you know that you think, have all these

958
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: rookies show up here and you know they learn from

959
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: all these veterans. They do, but you know what, there's

960
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that learn a lot from these

961
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: young players too. But the kind of guys they are.

962
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: When you find out the quality, when you get guys

963
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: that are high quality. I mean we found this out

964
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: when Thurman Thomas was drafted, and we found out when

965
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, when dog Biebie was drafted and you bring

966
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: him in, you get to know him and he kind

967
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: of you know, you bust their chops early because that's

968
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: the way you do it, and you find out what

969
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: they think about and how they take it and how

970
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: they give it back to you, and they earn a

971
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: level of respect just kind of because of the person

972
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: they are before you even know if they can play

973
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: it down. And then slowly they evolve into their own

974
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: voice in the locker room, and not long after that

975
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: when they talk, everybody listens, and it's it's a pretty

976
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: neat transformation to see a young guy go through. Our

977
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: Twitter poll today deals with the rookie the number one

978
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: rookie Josh Allen first round draft pick. Are the Bills

979
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: taking the right approach with the rookie quarterback seventh overall selection?

980
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: And when should Josh Allen get his first crack at

981
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: first team reps? And why give us a call? We'd

982
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: love to talk to you about it. Eight oh three

983
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: five fifty toll free from Outside Buffalo one eight eight

984
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty. It is our Twitter

985
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: poll and it's fairly close. When should Josh Ellen get

986
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: his crack at first team reps? Forty three percent of

987
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: you say it should be preseason coming up in a

988
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: month or two now. Thirty six percent say it should

989
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: be mini camp next week. Three percent of you say

990
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: wait till the regular season eighteen percent have something else

991
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: in mind. Let's talk about it. We can talk about

992
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: it on Twitter. Tweet from bat Billings and he sounds

993
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: like he's saying exactly what Steve has said. Beat Billings

994
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: says he should get his reps when the coaches decide

995
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: he's ready. Well, of course we all acknowledge that, but

996
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't stop us from second guessing coaches before about everything. Right,

997
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 1: everything they do is up for discussion. Yeah. Then also

998
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: it goes on tick Naggart's tweets in preseason is perfect.

999
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: The spotlight isn't so big, not as much pressure, and

1000
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: you can see if he's ready right away. Wilson and

1001
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: Prescott shined in their preseasons as rookies, so it's no fluke.

1002
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: Give Allen the chance to shine with the first unit

1003
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: in a preseason game. It's a good I like that too.

1004
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's in question. I mean,

1005
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: just think about it. You get to a point where

1006
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: AJ McCarron may be your starter on opening Day or whatever,

1007
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna throw the next guy in. Presumably that'd be

1008
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: a spot where you could throw either Nathan Peterman or

1009
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in with the number ones against another team

1010
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: and just let him play for an entire half, you know,

1011
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: let him go and then see what they do. Even

1012
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: if he's not even if AJ McCarron isn't your starter

1013
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, give him a full game if

1014
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: there if it's a competition between those three, they should

1015
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: each start a game with the number ones. Yeah. I

1016
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: don't know. If it's gonna be a three way you know,

1017
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: competition like that, well might well, I would like to.

1018
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: I'd like him to narrow it down to maybe two

1019
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: because then but you should be able to do that

1020
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: through this mini camp and through the preseason and the

1021
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: first couple of weeks of training camp. Say, okay, now

1022
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: you know what it's down to you two guys. We'll see.

1023
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I think we get to the first preseason game, but

1024
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: there's plenty of stuff to happen before that that would

1025
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: get you that play. But that's I agree with you.

1026
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: If if they getting down to two instead of having

1027
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: a three hand monster From Tiffany Daniels this tweet, she

1028
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: says the coaches are taking the right approach with Josh,

1029
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: working with him on his fundamentals while installing a brand

1030
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: new offense and finding their offensive line starting five. The

1031
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: Hope Sarrus training camp moves along, Josh takes hold of

1032
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: the starting job and never looks back. Training camp to

1033
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: me seems like the best time to work him in

1034
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: with the ones. And my guess is that's when we

1035
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: might see it. But maybe you think it should be earlier,

1036
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: as early as next week three day minicamp. Maybe you

1037
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: think it should be regulous. Maybe you think you shouldn't

1038
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: you shouldn't rush him in there at all. That's what

1039
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: we're discussing today. We'll take phone calls on this too,

1040
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: eight fifty and toll free one eight eight eight five

1041
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Speaker 1: fifty two five. Here's always the thing, the problem though,

1042
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: and the underlying tension about a guy who is sitting

1043
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: at number three trying to work his way out. What

1044
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: if and this is just you know, the love. What

1045
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: if what if Aj McCarron and Nathan Peterman don't falter

1046
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: at all ever? What if they look good? What if

1047
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: they play their best football this training camp, in this preseason,

1048
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: it'll make it even harder for him to break in.

1049
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: Certainly AJ McCarron being the number one, don't you think,

1050
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: isn't it like, isn't it his job? To lose now,

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Speaker 1: I mean right now, he's taking number one reps. How

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00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: how I don't know if it is. How do you

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00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: move somebody ahead of him when he doesn't make any mistakes? Yeah,

1054
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: or not enough mistakes that are you know what I mean? Yeah?

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00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: What if he plays good? How do you just make

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00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: it just to make it? Doesn't Josh Allen have to

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00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: outplay him? Significantly different casts, different coaching staff. Three years ago,

1058
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: but the Bills went to camp and actually got through

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00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: some preseason games with three quarterbacks playing pretty well. Tyrod

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00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: Taylor and Met Castle right and EJ Manuel. All three

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00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: of them had pretty good preseason. I remember EJ looked

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00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: an Eventually people EJ turned some heads that game. It

1063
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I see you know, you kind of

1064
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: saw it there. Eventually Tyrod rose to the top. But

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00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: sometimes it takes a game or two to get that right.

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00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: You're right, what if they're all playing well? What if

1067
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: mccaren's playing great. We'll find out mccaren is going to

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Speaker 1: be with us. By the way, in the next hour.

1069
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: AJ McCarron coming off the field after this final Ota,

1070
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Speaker 1: Steve and I will take a break here for the

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00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: top of the hour. We're back with more two more

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Speaker 1: hours to go. One Bills Live from One Bills Drive

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network.

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00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: Stories update from One Bill's Drive. The Bills wrapping up

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00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: their final OTA session today. They've been on the field

1076
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: since around eleven AM. Couple hours today. They take the

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00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: weekend off and back here Tuesday for the first of

1078
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: three days of mini camp. The mandatory mini camp starts

1079
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: next Tuesday for the Buffalo Bills. Around the NFL, Patriots

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00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver Julian Edelman's reportedly is going to appeal or

1081
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: has already filed an appeal. It was four game suspension

1082
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: for violating the league policy on performance enhancing substances. The

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00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: suspension under appeal. Edelman has taken hundreds of tests, according

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00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: to ESPN, and has never tested positive before. If he

1085
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: were suspended for four games, he'd forfeit more than four

1086
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: hundred seventy thousand dollars in salary. Patriot's first four games

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00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: are Houston at Jacksonville, at Detroit, and home against Miami. Tera.

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00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: Owens announced yesterday, even though he's been selected for enshrinement

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00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, he has declined

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00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: his invitation to attend the induction ceremony. He let the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame know about it. David Baker, the Hall

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00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: of Fame President, say, even though it's unprecedented, the Hall

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00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: goes on. They'll celebrate the class of twenty eighteen, and

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Speaker 1: he said they'll have no further comment on terall Owens decision. Alexovatchkan,

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00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: a Stanley Cup champion, also the Conn smythe winner as

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00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: the most valuable player of the playoffs, led his team

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00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: with fifteen goals in the postseason. Caps won the first

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00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: Stanley Cup in franchise history, finishing off the Vegas Golden

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00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: Knights in five games last night, a fourth three win

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Speaker 1: for Washington on a late third period goal by Lars Eller,

1101
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: first championship for a professional team in DC in twenty

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00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: six years since Washington won the Super Bowl. Kevin Durrant

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00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 1: confirms that he will resign with the Golden State Warriors

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Speaker 1: this summer, finishing the first year of a discount of

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00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: two year deal with the Warriors, then included an opt

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00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: out clause, but he says he'll be back. Durant coming

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00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: out a brilliant performance in Game three of the finals

1108
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: Wednesday night, when He had forty three points, thirteen rebounds,

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00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: and seven assist He made four or three pointers from

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00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: more than thirty feet. Durant and the Warriors can wrap

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00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: it up tonight, eating three games to none. They're at

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00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland for Game four the NBA Finals, nine o'clock tip

1113
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: off tonight in Cleveland, and that is the update here.

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00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: Who he got tonight, Steve Warriors finish it off tonight.

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00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: I think that's a good question because I was always

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00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: thinking that. You know, the Warriors are there, they're up

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00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: three nothing, and it would be so easy to take

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00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas for one game and with

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00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: Lebron on the other side, have him come back and

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Speaker 1: given a full effort, and then of course win it,

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Speaker 1: win the series when they get back out to the

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Speaker 1: West Coast. So yeah, I think Cleveland tonight at home. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I thought that, Listen. I thought they were

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Speaker 1: gonna put their best foot forward in Game three. They did,

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Speaker 1: it just wasn't exactly so their best foot forward didn't,

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Speaker 1: I mean, their best game didn't. Didn't. Even they lost

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Speaker 1: by ten. Wasn't even a buzzer beater. They lost by ten.

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00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: It was close to the end. But look, the Warriors

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00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: they might, they can't keep playing. I mean, when you

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00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: get nothing out of Steph Curry and forty three points

1131
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: out of Kevin Durant, can you count on that every night?

1132
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if the word well, you don't have

1133
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: That's the whole point. They didn't even have to. Now

1134
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: Steph Curie will score forty three and Curry and Durant

1135
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: will have you know, twenty five, and then Clay Thompson

1136
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: pitches in thirty. Yeah, well, I mean they're good, it's not.

1137
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: And then you know, andre Iguadalo will will start guarding Lebron.

1138
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: Lebron's numbers will go down a little bit maybe, and

1139
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: then you know they're just it's over. Because I was

1140
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: really enjoying. I really loved it that the Celtics pushed

1141
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: the cast to Game seven and looked like, wow, it

1142
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: looked like Lebron was not going to get out of

1143
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: the conference finals. Yeah, seven games. I thought that was

1144
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: awesome and I thought, wow, this is gonna be a

1145
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: great series. And no, no, it was awful. Our Twitter

1146
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: pull today, what do you do with the Josh Ellen

1147
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: there the Bills doing it the right way? And when

1148
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: should he get work with the ones? Give us a

1149
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: call or discuss it on Twitter. Eight oh three five

1150
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. We've got John in the

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Speaker 1: car on the line. Hello John, go ahead, how are

1153
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: you today? Hey, guys, thanks for the call there. It's

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00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: Joe by the way, Thanks John. Thanks. I think a

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00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: j is our answer this year. I think he's gonna

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00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: have a Kyle Orton type of season and bring Josh

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00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: along at your own pace. And the next year it'll

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00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: allow us to trade AJ if he has a good

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00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: season and slide Peterman up into the number two spots. Oh,

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Speaker 1: so you're gonna you're willing to like forego? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying how the team will do,

1162
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: But you're saying if AJ plays that well well enough

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00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: to keep Josh Allen on the bench, you're saying, then

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00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: why would you not do just the opposite of that

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00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: and keep AJ? Particularly what if the Bills have like

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00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: a Minnesota Vikings year or or a Philadelphia Eagles year

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00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: with Nick Foles like they did with Nick Foles a backup,

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00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: or the Vikings did with Case Keenan. What would you

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00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: do then, John, well, it would be a tough thing

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00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: to do. But I'm just thinking, you get trade Billy Wild?

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00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: He is a great year. Yeah, I get you. Would

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00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: you would you consider if AJ McCarron came out and

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00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: had a year like whatever, like like Jared Goff did

1174
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: in LA. Would you consider trading Josh Allen? No, come on, well, no,

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00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: he's got his rookie cheap rookie deal. Both both the

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00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: John on the phone and me, Harry yelling that you say, no, yeah, crazy, right, John,

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Speaker 1: tell him how crazy he is. It's a little Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I liked. I can't see that. I've been called worse

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00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: than I've been called worse than crazy by close friends,

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00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: So I get it. Though. Yeah I'm and I wouldn't either.

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but what that gets that's kind of

1182
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: a good problem to have if you got this guy

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00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: that that lit it up, and you've got I'm totally

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00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: with you. I don't know if I really and John,

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00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: I'd say, I don't really don't see. I would really

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00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: have a hard time waiting a whole year. Unless a J.

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00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: Mccarn's really lightening it up, then it's okay. If they're

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00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: winning games and he's throwing for three hundred yards a

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Speaker 1: game and he's not turning it over. Yeah, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: totally in on that. I'm totally signed waiting, but i'd

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00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: be hard. But if they're going away, what are you

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00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: gonna do? Nobody wants to upset that apple cart, right,

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00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's you know, and you can laugh at

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00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: what happened last year and people they got crushed last

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00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: year for making the switch out in week ten to

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. After you know, they're seven and two or whatever,

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00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: they are five and four and they're gonna try and

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00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: they're trying to make a push for the playoffs and

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Speaker 1: they switch out the quarterback. Um, they got vilified for it.

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00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: So you know, given that scenario, you know that if

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00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: AJ stumbled at all and they were in it or

1202
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna win it, or had a chance to win the

1203
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: division or get in the playoffs, and they thought it

1204
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: would help, they make the switch. They ain't gonna hold back.

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00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: So if you're saying that he's gonna get the whole year,

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00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're saying. I mean, if if

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00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: if they're all of a sudden, they're seven and seven

1208
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: and there are three other teams in the in the conference,

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00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: or five other teams in the conference or whatever that

1210
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna get in the playoffs at nine

1211
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: and seven. It's gonna take eleven wins or ten wins

1212
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: and you'ren't gonna make it. Then what do you still

1213
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: And he's and AJ mccarrens played well. AJ mccarrens playing well,

1214
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: don't take him out if he's play a the teams

1215
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: easy to say. Now, yeah, what if you're not in

1216
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: what if you're you know, what if you're that? What

1217
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: if you're five and seven with four games left? Well,

1218
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: five games left? Okay, all right, it's public math and

1219
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: my f four or five four games, four games left.

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00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: It's the worst. It's the worst thing ever. But see,

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: that's that's what you're talking about. That So we're we're

1222
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: playing what if here? Which isn't? Which isn't? It's a

1223
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: game for me, for guys like me, idiots because you

1224
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: can know you can always slice it a little thinner

1225
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: every time, because that's where you're getting to the point

1226
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: where you're trying to get find where the where the

1227
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: breaking point is for all of us. If if if

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00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's on the bench. Because AJ mccarren's playing well.

1229
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: You gotta be happy with that. And I think all

1230
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: of us you gotta remember too, all of us would change.

1231
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: We would all say, oh, AJ is not so bad.

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00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: I can live with AJ for a while. Josh, you're nice,

1233
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: you're shining into it. But I like AJ because we've

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00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, we're gotta we're gonna go to the playoffs

1235
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: or we're gonna be in there. We're gonna we got

1236
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: a guy that our offense looks good, we're a tough out. Whatever,

1237
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 1: we've lost four games by less than three points. We're

1238
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: a good team. You know that kind of stuff. Then

1239
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 1: you're in a problem. Then you got a problem. That's

1240
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: a problem, at least a problem from here, from between preseason,

1241
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: when you got a first round draft pick that you

1242
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: want to see, not a problem if you're playing well,

1243
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: and if mccarn's playing well, not a problem. What if

1244
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: you're playing well and the team's not winning. Then it's

1245
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: a different situation. Yeah, where you just said playing well.

1246
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: If he's playing well on the team's winning, not a problem.

1247
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: If the team's winning. If the team's winning well, What

1248
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: if the team's winning and he's not playing well like

1249
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: last year. Um, that'd be a difficult one. Difficult and

1250
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:38,479
Speaker 1: what if you bring him in he throws five picks

1251
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 1: in the first half? Could never happen. Wait a minute,

1252
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh I love what if David and

1253
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: Clarence is down in the line of Hello David, go ahead,

1254
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: Hey John high Steve right. Um. I think that we're

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Speaker 1: kind of overthinking this a little bit with John. I mean,

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01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: um if I think in some ways the Bills might

1257
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: are kind of afraid that if he comes in he

1258
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: looks weight behind the years. Where um, how rookies tend

1259
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 1: to look a lot of times even they're really good ones,

1260
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: and you don't they want to have all the fans

1261
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: and oh why do we draft from blah blah blah.

1262
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: But I think they should hold off until training camp

1263
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: and it could be a hook for the fans to

1264
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: come out. Oh, he's going to be working with the

1265
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: one sage and with the way injuries have been going

1266
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL, it makes a lot of sense to

1267
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: mix and match these guys, just like pick up a

1268
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: little bit of pre chemistry and get an idea of

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01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: what you expect if indeed they would be Um, I

1270
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: have to go in on an emergency basis, but um,

1271
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to wait, to sit and wait, and

1272
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: we made the playoffs with this UH administration and coaching staff.

1273
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: Sit back, relax and watch it just kind of open

1274
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: up like a like a flower, you know. Yeah, that's look,

1275
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: they're not going to ask us. They're not going to

1276
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: come in and say, Steve and I, what do you

1277
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: think I plan out sitting back, relaxing and watch it.

1278
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: And I do think it's going to be fun to

1279
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: watch because I do believe that Josh Allen is going

1280
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback for this team at some point,

1281
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: maybe this year, maybe not. In the meantime, I think

1282
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 1: it'll be fun to watch him develop. I agree. Yeah,

1283
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: I think that's David says the right thing. I mean,

1284
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: And the fear is I mean, there's gonna be moments

1285
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: in this process and in this journey that we're all

1286
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: taken together, and this Bill's journey that we're all seem

1287
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: to be on, there's gonna be moments when there are

1288
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna be doubts about did we do the right thing

1289
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: or There are gonna be tough times. There are gonna

1290
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: be games that we look bad in. There's gonna be

1291
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: games when Josh Allen you're gonna have doubts about his

1292
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: abilities and about whether he's ever going to be that guy.

1293
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: And they may happen as early as the preseason, or

1294
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: they may happen when he does become a starter a

1295
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: couple of games in, or the first couple of starters.

1296
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: But the simple fact the matter is it's fun to watch.

1297
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: And there's a lot more reason to be optimistic than

1298
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: there is to be pessimistic with a group like this,

1299
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: so particularly the given the performance of this coaching staff

1300
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: evoked out of the roster last year. It's gonna be fun.

1301
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: It'll be fun to follow, especially when we get to

1302
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: a training camp. It'll be fun to follow even next

1303
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: week at mini camp when it's mandatory mini camp and

1304
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: they split the reps. And I do think an instructive

1305
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: way do you think about it? Came from Brian Dable

1306
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: a week ago when the Bill's offensive coordinator said, not

1307
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: really paying attention to What do you say, I'm not

1308
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: paying attention to first team or somebody? What do you say,

1309
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm paid? It's not a depth chart. That a depth chart,

1310
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: it's a rep chart. That's what he said. It was great,

1311
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 1: It was perfect. Guy who can talk about that joins

1312
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: us in studio right now. He is on the rep

1313
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: chart anyway, at number one and two getting the first

1314
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: team reps. AJ McCarron, quarterback A J. John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

1315
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: Thanks coming by, of course, appreciate. What do you think

1316
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: when Dable said, I thought it was a perfect way

1317
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: to look at It's not a depth chart. It's a

1318
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 1: rep chart right now right quarterbacks all over the roster. Yeah,

1319
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: I mean everybody's learning. Um, it's a new offense. So

1320
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is, you know, getting as many reps

1321
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 1: as you can whenever you're in a new system and

1322
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: trying to get familiar with the guys and timing and

1323
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: everything else that goes along with it. How's a quarterback room?

1324
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're you got parachuted into a new team.

1325
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: You became a free agent, come here to the Buffalo.

1326
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: They draft Josh, they got Nathan and so it's the

1327
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: three you guys with Cully and Brian in the room.

1328
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: How's that room? How's the chemistry going? It's awesome? Um,

1329
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean we have a really good group, uh, really

1330
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: good group of coaches too, and um so it's it's

1331
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: been great to work with and uh, you know, definitely

1332
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to the year. There's like a tell me

1333
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: about the offense. I mean there's are you like installing everything?

1334
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like your soup to nuts. You

1335
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: gotta get it done right. Yeah, I mean, uh, I

1336
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what all is everything and all that,

1337
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: but um, I mean we've installed a lot so uh yeah,

1338
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to take it all in and David

1339
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: like all the personnel packages, all the formations and everything

1340
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: out of all of it, right, I mean you've got

1341
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: a lot of different combinations. Yeah, I mean we have

1342
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff. Yeah, Um, but you never know

1343
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: what Dave's I mean he might have nine million more

1344
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: things too, so there might be no bottom to that pitch. Yeah, exactly. So, Um,

1345
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: but we definitely have a bunch of stuff and it's

1346
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: been awesome to be a part of this stuff. Hey

1347
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: j we may have talked about this before. I know

1348
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: we had you on the show several months ago when

1349
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: you signed with Buffalo, but one part about your your

1350
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: You're coming on with the Buffalo bills and impressed me

1351
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: was that, um, you fought for you fought for getting

1352
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 1: out of Cincinnatie. Right, you filed that grievance you wanted

1353
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: to get out, which is a strong signal I think,

1354
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: right it wasn't good enough for you to back up

1355
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton again. You wanted to be out and play somewhere, right.

1356
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean not only that though, but um,

1357
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean it was everything that came with that year,

1358
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: the benefits and everything else, like, right, I mean, I'm

1359
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: they're they're fighting for it's a business. I mean, you know,

1360
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: the owners are fighting for what they think is right,

1361
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: and I'm fighting for what I think is right. So um,

1362
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean I wanted to get out and

1363
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to go compete somewhere and uh and

1364
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: just have that chance and um and so hopefully you

1365
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: know everything works out here. Talk a little bit about

1366
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: your experience there and how it different it is coming

1367
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: in here with the different atmosphere, different coaching staff, and

1368
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 1: a different I cover a lot of organizations in the

1369
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: NFL when I work for CBS. They're all kind of

1370
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: the same, but they're all different. Yeah, I mean for sure. Um,

1371
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: I mean you know, listen, they're they're both great, uh organizations.

1372
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: I loved my time and sinse and uh. But you

1373
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: know there's always different coaching philosophies and uh in different

1374
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: ways to look at things. Um. So you know, I

1375
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: try to uh forget everything that I can about Cincinnati

1376
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: and and try to buy in too, you know what

1377
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 1: coaches is preaching and uh. And then you know, when,

1378
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to offense, because you've been in

1379
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: the same offense for four years and you know terminology,

1380
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: you might run the jack same play and it's called

1381
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: something totally different. So it gets stuff. Sometimes. I got one.

1382
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you one more since in any question,

1383
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 1: and that's the playoff game against Pittsburgh, which by many

1384
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: people's viewed as your signature game. Do you look at

1385
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: it like that and what what was what did they

1386
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: feel like that night? What was going well for you

1387
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: that night? Um? Well, I mean, I hope not signature

1388
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: because we didn't win, so but uh, I mean it

1389
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: was it was a tough night. Um. I mean it

1390
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: was beautiful at the at the start of the game

1391
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 1: and then I mean right at the first series it

1392
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: started a downpour and uh, I mean that was my

1393
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: first ring game ever, so I've never played played in

1394
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: the rain before, so I had to kind of learn, um,

1395
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, how to really throw a wet ball and

1396
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: uh and get used to it and so, um it

1397
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: was tough, but I think it showed a you know

1398
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: a great deal for our team at that time of

1399
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: perseverance and just uh fighting through the whole adversity and

1400
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: everything else. Um it was fun to be a part of,

1401
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, not fun outcome though. YEA. Yeah.

1402
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about now, this this mini camp

1403
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: that you've been going, what's been the most surprising thing.

1404
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: Maybe the guys you're playing with on your side of

1405
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: the football is the guys that that surprise you. Everybody's

1406
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: impressed you. I think everybody. I think we have a

1407
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: really good group of guys. Um, guys that work really hard. Uh,

1408
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean day in and day out. We don't have uh,

1409
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, complainers, which is awesome. I mean it really is.

1410
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: And uh and we got a bunch of team first

1411
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: guys and uh, it's it's really it's been awesome to

1412
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: be a part of UM so far, and I'm really

1413
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: just looking forward to the rest of it. You've obviously

1414
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: made a good impression on your teammates and on your

1415
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Sean McDermott was asked about you yesterday and

1416
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: once year this here's what head coach Sean McDermot had

1417
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: the same with yous asked how you've done so far

1418
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: in the OTAs he's done a good job, he really

1419
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: has with with respect to um, you know, very path

1420
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: and about the game, very uh passionate about his approach

1421
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 1: day in and day out in terms of habits on

1422
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: and off the field. The great part that as I've

1423
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: gotten to know Aj is you watch him and he's

1424
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: won one heck of a teammate, which is uh, you know,

1425
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: to me a great compliment as as a player as

1426
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Um. So he has a nice rapport with

1427
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: with both Nate and Josh in the meeting room as well,

1428
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: which is important for that dynamic. So he's seen quite

1429
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: a bit of football and being able to share that

1430
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,600
Speaker 1: with with those two who are a little bit a

1431
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: little bit younger in this case. So, um, that's been

1432
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: that's been a good thing to watch to this point,

1433
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot down our guest, AJ mccaren, does that come

1434
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 1: easily to you to be a good teammate? Well, yeah,

1435
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean I hope, I mean, you know, we're in

1436
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: the business of you know, a team. Uh, you know,

1437
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: every everybody has their individual position, but um, you know,

1438
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: it takes a team to win. And and you know,

1439
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: the team that are the I should say, the individuals

1440
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: that play together as a team are the ones that

1441
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: end up winning the ultimate goal and that's Super Bowl.

1442
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: So um. But yeah, I mean I just try to

1443
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: treat everybody the way I want to be treated and um,

1444
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: and be fair to everybody. And you know, know when

1445
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: to tell him, uh, you know, however you need to

1446
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: speak to him, to tell him the truth about something

1447
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: or whether it's something we want to hear or don't

1448
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: want to hear. And I go through the same situations

1449
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: and I have my guys, um, you know on this

1450
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: offense that do that to me. So um. But like

1451
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: I said, it's been awesome to be here, um, and

1452
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: it's been fun to you know, start building a reputation,

1453
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: you know, as an offense. What have they told you

1454
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 1: about what's next? He's next the mini camp, But how

1455
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: how far does he get stepped up? And what are

1456
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: the next things for you guys in your room? Haven't

1457
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 1: told Jenny that you're shaking your head? I don't know

1458
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: your guests would be as good as mine. What's the

1459
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: schedule look like? I'm almost the next thing you guys

1460
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:05,639
Speaker 1: have after today Friday? Uh, we come back next week. Um,

1461
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: I think Tuesday through Thursday and then we're out of here.

1462
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 1: So I get to go home and see my son

1463
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Speaker 1: and seeing him and him or my wife in a while.

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Speaker 1: And uh so I'm just excited about that. That's next

1465
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: week after the medicam. Yeah, and where's home? Do you

1466
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: have a place in Mobile or yep? Okay, so great city.

1467
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: We've talked about that before for sure. And what will

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01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: you do? I mean, will you throw it during that

1469
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: five week time? Yeah, I'll uh, you know, train with

1470
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: my QB coach and uh. And then we're taking a

1471
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: trip for our anniversary. So um we're going what she

1472
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: actually which is kind of crazy because neither one of

1473
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: us Campbell and uh to Vegas. Yeah okay, and so

1474
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of the summer. Yeah, so we're actually

1475
01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: going with my brother and uh and his girlfriend and

1476
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: my cousin and his wife and another um couple that

1477
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: are friends some of ours. And uh so we're gonna

1478
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: go out there and go to you know, a bunch

1479
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: of shows and do some doom buggy rotting in the

1480
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: desert and stuff like that. So um yeah, so and

1481
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: then we'll come back home. Dude, don't get hurt. No, no, never, never.

1482
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: The last question for you, a JA, what is the

1483
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: biggest difference four years in Cincinnati and what a couple

1484
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 1: of months here in Buffalo. What have you determined as

1485
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: the biggest difference both snow? Okay, yeah, you only caught

1486
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: about two weeks of it. How about some sympathy for

1487
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: those of us who have been here for years. J Yeah,

1488
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: hang in there, bro, it's gonna get worse. Yeah that

1489
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,680
Speaker 1: I'd say that. First a couple of days I was here,

1490
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: they had like fourteen inches of snow and that's not normal. Yeah,

1491
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: but it was bad. It was. I tell it was

1492
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: the longest coldest winner we've had. I've been in town

1493
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: like for thirty years, and it was bad. Even for

1494
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 1: a guy like me. We're like Murph and I our lifers.

1495
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: It was bad by our standard two and we're kind,

1496
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: we're thick skinned. So yeah. But other than that, I mean,

1497
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: I think, uh, it just the fact that Buffalo has

1498
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: a smaller town. Fill um, I mean you could see

1499
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: like probably if you grew up here. Everybody knows everybody. Um,

1500
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: I mean it's just one of those places. And Uh,

1501
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's awesome because I mean that's really that's

1502
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: the way Mobile was for me. And uh. And then

1503
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: the passion that they have here. You know, they had

1504
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: passion in Cincinnati, Um, but to me it ended up

1505
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: seeming like it was more of a baseball um city

1506
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: and uh, and here, I mean it's like Alabama. To me,

1507
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: it's I mean, these fans are passionate about the Bills

1508
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 1: and uh and the game, and it's awesome to be

1509
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: a part of. I bet Mobile is almost the same

1510
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: size as Buffalo. Right, is Mobile bigger than Buffalo? I

1511
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: bet it's pretty close. Probably? Yeah. How many people are here? Um,

1512
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 1: the whole metro air is like a million, little bit

1513
01:13:57,960 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: less than a million. Maybe ye was about that. Yeah,

1514
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: I want to say we're about eight hunter Maybe yeah,

1515
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: it might be bigger now I don't. I don't know,

1516
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: he Jie, thanks for this week, Thank you for coming in.

1517
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Quarterback on here again sometimes a J mccaron,

1518
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: Bill's quarterback telling you don't get hurt. Steve and I

1519
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: back with more one Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive

1520
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One Bill's

1521
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. Steve Tasker, John Murphy, you're

1522
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: on this Friday afternoon. You know we got a great

1523
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: show coming up Monday, Steve. I am told Cornelius Bennett's

1524
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 1: going to join us on Monday, believe it or not.

1525
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: Biscuit and been one of the really good guests. Oh,

1526
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Josh Allen coming up on AMAS seeing he's

1527
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: a good guest, certainly somebody we want to talk to.

1528
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: He's a name I want to I want to s

1529
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 1: if he's a good we'll see, we'll make we'll carve

1530
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: him into a good guess. We'll we'll mold him and

1531
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: shape him into good I thought A. J. Mccam was

1532
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: a good guest, kind of a plane spoken, low key

1533
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: kind of guy. I can see why. Yeah, yeah, very

1534
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: little key, but yeah, he's certainly um yeah, he's a

1535
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: serious dude. Yeah, and uh, I think that was coming

1536
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: out he was he when he got the job in

1537
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: Cincinnati or you know, took over for for uh Andy

1538
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: mc dalton when when he got injured and then in

1539
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: the games that you were talking about that he said

1540
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: some stuff. He said, listen, yeah, this is my job.

1541
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm taking it and I'm gonna play. We're gonna win.

1542
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: He was really confident, and I think players love that

1543
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: they rally around him AJ On the field, even when

1544
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: he was at Alabama, he he was a fiery competitor.

1545
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: H and that's one of the things that set him apart. Uh.

1546
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: And you know he's not that way off the field.

1547
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 1: He wasn't just when I would yeah, but I think

1548
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 1: on the field when you were talking about football and

1549
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: and mixing it up with him, yeah, he's he's got

1550
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: that streak in him, which I think is great for quarterback.

1551
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: And anybody want to play three national championships at Alabama.

1552
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: I mean he's played in the biggest of games there

1553
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: with the Crimson Tide over the years. In one big

1554
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 1: game at least for Cincinnati, he's getting first and you know,

1555
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: reps with ones and twos here through the first three

1556
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,639
Speaker 1: weeks of OTAs. I imagine that will continue next week.

1557
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: So thanks again to A. J. McCarn for joining us

1558
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: on the show. We talked about Monday show Cornelius spent

1559
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: it is going to be on the show of this

1560
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: Monday because Cornelius plays an important role in a new

1561
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: series of top ten shows coming up a second year

1562
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 1: in a row, second summer in a row, when our

1563
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 1: crew here at one Bill's Right puts together top ten shows,

1564
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 1: and this year they're doing some really good, reallyod shows,

1565
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: including top ten free agent signings in Bill's History, Top

1566
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 1: ten individual seasons in Bill's History, and the first one

1567
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:54,560
Speaker 1: next Monday, eight pm on MSG Top ten Trades in

1568
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's History. It's a thirty minute show highlighting the

1569
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: top ten trades in Buffalo history. Obviously, Cornelius Bennett would

1570
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 1: have something to say about that came over in what

1571
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: most of us think is the biggest trade in franchise history, Steve,

1572
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 1: with Bennett coming here and Greg Bell going out West

1573
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: and Eric Dickerson going to the Colts, you and I

1574
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 1: had to answer some questions about this. I put that

1575
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 1: as the number one trade and maybe the most shocking

1576
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 1: trade too. You were here, you were absolutely, yeah, I

1577
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: was playing. That was and you remember that was during

1578
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: strike here eighty seven. Yeah. He was the first player

1579
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: picked in the draft by Indianapolis and he held out

1580
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: and then he didn't have to hold out through four

1581
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: weeks of an eight week holdout because the whole league

1582
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: was held out. It was a lockout and had remember

1583
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: they had the strike games and all of that stuff

1584
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,880
Speaker 1: going on, and he didn't he refused to sign with Indianapolis,

1585
01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 1: and Bill Polian even during the strike, was burning up

1586
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: the phone lines. Working deal, Working deal. Finally, a three

1587
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 1: way trade between the Buffalo Bills, the La Rams and

1588
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Eric Dickerson, Greg Bell, Cornelius Bennett and

1589
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: draft picks number ones from either both teams or one

1590
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: of the two teams. Two of the two teams, I

1591
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: don't know. And they the deal happened, and so we're

1592
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 1: standing there. We heard we got him and it was

1593
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: for a draft pick. And it was Halloween, right, It

1594
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: was like we got him on a Friday night. Yeah,

1595
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: so Saturday was the first day or Friday afternoon. Saturday

1596
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: was the first day he could actually get on the field.

1597
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know if that's the case or not. Yeah,

1598
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: I think so. So he's out there and we're walking

1599
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: through some stuff and there, and of course he was

1600
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: you know, they were cramming, you know, to get him ready,

1601
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: to get him some plays. We played against Denver that day.

1602
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: His first day he was wearing number fifty five. He

1603
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: walked out and they finally put him in like in

1604
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: the first series on the third and long or a

1605
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: third and eight or something, and uh, he forced an

1606
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: incompletion almost he almost sacked Elway he got he got

1607
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: into his face so fast and we thought, I remember

1608
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: Frank Reich, look we're out of the sun. And Frank

1609
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 1: Bryk looked at me. He kind of started letting. He

1610
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: goes bro. He looked like like, Bro, did you see

1611
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: you know? That's all he said, was just bro, Like

1612
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we were going to be really good.

1613
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: It was I'll never forget it was. It was a

1614
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: total It was totally great when Biscuit hit the field

1615
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: for us, and uh yeah, we never looked back after that.

1616
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: Bills gave up a lot to get Conia. Spent it

1617
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: obviously worth it. They gave up a former first rounder,

1618
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: Greg Belt running back. You played with him, right. They

1619
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: gave up their first round picks in eighty eight and

1620
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 1: eighty nine and a second rounder in eighty nine. Think

1621
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: about that. That's a lot. I remember saying at the time, Man,

1622
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: they gave up a lot, Uh, you know for a

1623
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: guy who had never played it down in the NFL.

1624
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: In retrospect, it was worth it, Bennett. It's arguable, but

1625
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,040
Speaker 1: probably not very It's probably true. Bennett made a difference

1626
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: and put you guys over the top, got you guys

1627
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: a couple of years later to you know, AFC championship level. Well,

1628
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: they allowed their our defense to continue to rush the

1629
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: passer really well. And he was an answer for Bruce.

1630
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they all these teams, all these teams had

1631
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: to do is account for where Bruce was. And that

1632
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: was it. I mean, you know, that's that's the only

1633
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: threat we had at the time. And then uh, you

1634
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: got to put Biscuit over there on the other side,

1635
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: and you know that changed everything. I mean, they were

1636
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: they were in deep trouble. We had we had a

1637
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: pass rush immediately, and that then it changed everything for opponents.

1638
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: Top ten trades. That would be number one on my list.

1639
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: We'll see what the actual TV show says next Monday.

1640
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 1: Um one of the big trades. Jerry Hughes comes to

1641
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo for Kelvin Shephard. Big trade. Wow, you think about

1642
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 1: how good, how good that turned out for Buffalo and

1643
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: Kelvin Shepherd was. It was a good player, but he

1644
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: was he turned into you know, and after he didn't

1645
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 1: even hit the field. Yeah, he didn't. He didn't play

1646
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: well at all for Indianapolis. And of course Jerry Hughes

1647
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 1: came in. It was a double digit ZAC guy right away. Yeah, unbelievable.

1648
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:49,639
Speaker 1: We were asked the question for a piece that's going

1649
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: up on the website about the best current uh, the

1650
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: current best player on the roster that came here as

1651
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: a result of a trade. I don't know how you voted,

1652
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: and I said, it's shady, absolutely shady from to the Eagles.

1653
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 1: From the Eagles for Kiko a large Ko Alonzo and

1654
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: he's turned into he was remember remember when he got

1655
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: here as the rookie year, he was a really good

1656
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: linebacker for It's like the legend of Kiko Alonzo kind

1657
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 1: of thing, you know. They had this little nickname going

1658
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: for him, and then he got his knee hurt, and

1659
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: then then they let him go and he's turned into

1660
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: a journeyman linebacker and he's now he played with Philly,

1661
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: now he's with Miamis. But to get Leshaun McCoy and

1662
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:31,560
Speaker 1: I knew that immediately. When they got Lashawn McCoy, I

1663
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, wait a minute, are you

1664
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 1: kidding me? Because I had done sideline games for Monday

1665
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: Night football. You know how Monday Night for all the

1666
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 1: people here in Buffalo know how money Night football works.

1667
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 1: It's always an NFC East team against somebody. It's like Washington, Dallas,

1668
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: New York Giants or Philly, one of those things. Or

1669
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: it's two of those teams playing against each other. I mean,

1670
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: it's Monday Night football because they want those TV markets, right.

1671
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 1: So I've done a bunch of those AFC's or NFC

1672
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: East games, and I've watched Leshaw Philly played Washington. I've

1673
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: watched Philly played the Giants, and I've watched Philly play

1674
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and I'm like and I remember thinking it

1675
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: was the only his fifth year when he came to Buffalo, right,

1676
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: so I'm watching him and I was like, who is

1677
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: that guy? I remember thinking to myself who is that

1678
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,760
Speaker 1: because I didn't, you know, sideline guy, I'm not really

1679
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to be played by played And

1680
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: I was like, who is that guy? And it was

1681
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: Leshaun McCoy. And then when the Bills got him in

1682
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: a trade for Kiko Alonso, I was like man, the

1683
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: lid is off this guy. This guy can go way.

1684
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: You see this guy big trade for Oh my gosh.

1685
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: They talked to us Shady, our crew putting together the

1686
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: Top ten series. They talked to Leashan McCoy and he

1687
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: talked about how he found out he was traded to

1688
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. When I got traded. Um, the first

1689
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: time I heard about it was a tech snall call.

1690
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: I woke up. There was a call from my agent

1691
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: at the Times Ro's house and he goes Shady his

1692
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: exact words re aring, Hello, Shady, this is not a joke.

1693
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: The Eagles has traded you to the Buffalo Bills. I'm like, what, So,

1694
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: let me call you back. So I hung up. I

1695
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 1: gave myself together. I had I had so many text

1696
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 1: messages on my phone. It's a million text messages, so

1697
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: I figured it was probably true. So I called him

1698
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: back and I'm like, what's going on? Like what happened? Um?

1699
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: You know I called the head coach of the time

1700
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: for the Eagles. I call him twice. Heem to pick up.

1701
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: Then that's kind of what happened. This should an issue reaction,

1702
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: I think anybody would be. I'm just staying all the

1703
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: things that I had going on at the time. You know,

1704
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: kid that grew up in Harrism with Pennsylvania was big

1705
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,680
Speaker 1: into football. Then I went to Pittsburgh for college, that's

1706
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Then I get drafted about an hour away,

1707
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, from my hometown to Philadelphia. And since I've

1708
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: been there, you know, I've been one of the top

1709
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: players in the league. And then on my team, um

1710
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 1: the all time of leading rusher in Philadelphia Eagles history.

1711
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: So all them things, it's played over and over my head.

1712
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: It's the only guy I knew. It's Pennsylvania. I never

1713
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: live anywhere else. And also all my teammates and my friends,

1714
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: you know, I was there for six years, you know,

1715
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 1: so just I think anybody would be. And also there's

1716
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: part about just to the ego part of it. You know,

1717
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: I put so much hard work and time and effort

1718
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: into this game, and it's like, basically, you're not good enough.

1719
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: We want somebody else, so we don't want you. And

1720
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of the first time I've ever happened to me. Also,

1721
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: so knowing all that I was just I was hurt.

1722
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't I didn't want to get traded. Um,

1723
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: you know. But the good thing is, like, I'm happy

1724
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: to happen because, um, I went somewhere that they wanted me. Um,

1725
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, and then I've been a situation where I'm happy.

1726
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm happy, we're we're winning games. It's been a seventeen

1727
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 1: year drought, you know, we just kind of overcame that.

1728
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:08,600
Speaker 1: And then now with the team he's at right now

1729
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: going in that right direction, So it kind of feels

1730
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,360
Speaker 1: good now you go outside of the trade. Shanny McCoy

1731
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: talking about the trade and how we found out about it.

1732
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: He does seem happy now and it has been for

1733
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Um. It's funny that he said

1734
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: he called Chip Kelly his coach, and he did. He

1735
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: didn't pick up. The two of them had a kind

1736
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: and that that had to be a factor in the trade, right,

1737
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: their relationship. I think that was the only fact, the

1738
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 1: only fact because not a smart trade. Chip Kelly's gone.

1739
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: Maybe that trade had something to do with it, you

1740
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 1: know in Philadelphia, like what are we doing? You know,

1741
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: it's interesting too because Chip Kelly's philosophy. Forget about his

1742
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: you know, the whatever, the offensive kind of thing. They

1743
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: ran his philosophy was also that the chemistry of the

1744
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: locker room will overcome all of this other stuff. And

1745
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: and you got guys like Leshaan mcallles. Shan McCoy is

1746
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: no shrinking violet. He'll stand up and say something. Well,

1747
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 1: the problem with that if your coach, if you're as

1748
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,080
Speaker 1: a coaching staff, that just means that you have to

1749
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,560
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about and have a reason, a

1750
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: good reason for everything you say. If you come up

1751
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: with a really good reason. Those guys are guys like shady,

1752
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 1: strong personalities, strong men in the locker room, they'll be

1753
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: okay with it. You just got to trust it. You

1754
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: just gotta sell it to them. And if you can't

1755
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 1: sell it, and you'd end up trading guys like LaShaun

1756
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: McCoy because for some reason you you can't stand up

1757
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 1: to their you know, questioning. You know, you know, that's

1758
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 1: why you get fired. That's not you know, that's why

1759
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 1: you get fired. You don't trade great players like that

1760
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: for not great players because you can't stand up to

1761
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 1: the reasons of their questions, you know, And why are

1762
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 1: we doing it this way? Why is this happening? Why

1763
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: is that happening? If you can't sell them on your program.

1764
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: You're the one that needs to be traded, not not them.

1765
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean you've got if you believe in your program,

1766
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 1: if you're a leader, then get them to get them

1767
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 1: to join you. That's the that's the point, and that's

1768
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: what Chip Kelly couldn't do for the Philadelphia Eagles. You

1769
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: and I answering questions. It will be up on the

1770
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: website I think Monday about these top ten trades. So

1771
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: the best trade for a player currently on the Bills roster,

1772
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: that's the one I had, right, Yeah, that's most lopsided

1773
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 1: trade in team history. What did you put down for that?

1774
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 1: I can't remember that one. I put down the Tom

1775
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: Cousin under the Browns for a first round picking eighty three.

1776
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 1: That's what I was using, is exactly what I put down,

1777
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: because it caught. Tom Cousino was a guy didn't want

1778
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: to play for Buffalo, wouldn't show up and played in Canada,

1779
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,519
Speaker 1: had not played, So they trade him for that guy

1780
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: for twelve Yeah, come on, man, um. I do have

1781
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: this though, and this I had to go back. I

1782
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: remember this as a kid. A nineteen sixty seven. The

1783
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: Bills of course had the Kemp Lamonica quarterback debate, and

1784
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: he's just meaning anything to you. They traded Darrel Lamonica

1785
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: to Oakland, um Lamonica and wide receiver Glenn Bass to

1786
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: the Raiders for Tom Flores and Art Powell. Lamonica went

1787
01:27:57,640 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: on to play the rest of his career in Oakland.

1788
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: One straight AFL West titles and an AFL championship. That's

1789
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,559
Speaker 1: pretty lopsided against Buffalo because the two that came here,

1790
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Floy's and our Powell didn't have much to me. That

1791
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: marked the end of the Bills domination really of the

1792
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: AFL for a couple of years. They made that trade,

1793
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: shipped off Daryl Monica. He goes on to greatness in

1794
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: Oakland and the Bills. That's right, it was lopsided in

1795
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: the wrong direction anyway. The show is Monday, next Monday

1796
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,679
Speaker 1: on MSG. The Top Ten Trades in Buffalo Bill's History.

1797
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: The Top ten shows return with three different versions coming

1798
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 1: up over the next three Monday starting next Monday. Top

1799
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: ten Trades in Buffalo History Buffalo Bills History. It's on

1800
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: MSG and I believe it starts at eight o'clock. Yep, Okay,

1801
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. We're back with more. John Murphy,

1802
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, one Bills Live from One Bill's Driving. This

1803
01:28:47,000 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show. Steve

1804
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: and I just discussing current events which will remain nameless.

1805
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. We are live at One

1806
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. All right, this came out yesterday, Steve, we

1807
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 1: didn't really have time to discuss and we didn't know

1808
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: much about it. But Julian Edelman what a patriot cheating?

1809
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: Was that the patriot way? Edelman facing a four game

1810
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: suspension for violating the performance enhancing Substances rule. They suspension

1811
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: under appeal. Edelman reportedly, according to ESPAN, has taken hundreds

1812
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,760
Speaker 1: of tests and has never tested positive. But it's a

1813
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: four game suspension. Now here's the interesting part. The most

1814
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: interesting part the link with Tom Brady's trainer, Alex Guerrero

1815
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,919
Speaker 1: at TV twelve Sports Therapy Center. Edelman worked closely with Guerrero,

1816
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: so you would think if he's taking supplements, Guerrero would know, right.

1817
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 1: Guerrero shot a statement he said, I've known Julian since

1818
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:07,799
Speaker 1: his rookie year. He's a phenomenal athlete. It's disappointing elite

1819
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: athletes sometimes work with multiple coaches and health professionals as

1820
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: part of their offseason training. Here in our facility, we

1821
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: take a natural, holistic, appropriate, and above all legal approach

1822
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: and to training and recovery for all of our clients.

1823
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: Anyone who would suggest otherwise is irresponsible and just playing wrong.

1824
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 1: That's what the trainer said. This is the trainer who

1825
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick kind of pushed aside, right, pushed him out

1826
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: of the Patriots facility. I believe his facility is right

1827
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,800
Speaker 1: there at Patriot Place in the mall there. Now he's

1828
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 1: still Brady's trainer. He's the guy with Brady for the

1829
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: TV twelve program, which appears to be Tom Brady's it's

1830
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: second priority in his life now after a playing quarterback

1831
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: for the Patriots. Things are fishing in New England. Steve.

1832
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: Things are a little bit weird in New England. Yeah,

1833
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: that's one. It's one more. Yeah, it's one more thing.

1834
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 1: The pile on the stack that has been accumulate for

1835
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: the offseason. Tom Brady's not at the offseason workouts, which

1836
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:06,719
Speaker 1: is unusual. He only showed up for the mandatory stuff.

1837
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski is not in camp until he's forced to

1838
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: be there. He wants a new contract given and the

1839
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 1: rift that we began to see with the big Sports

1840
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:22,639
Speaker 1: Illustrated article last fall about the rift between Bill Belichick

1841
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 1: and Os Guerrero, the trainer that you just quoted, and

1842
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: now Julian Edelman, who has missed all sixteen games last

1843
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: season and is due to miss another four games at

1844
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 1: the beginning of this season because of this suspension since

1845
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 1: signing an since signing a an extension to his contract,

1846
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,599
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman will have missed twenty of twenty possible games

1847
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 1: after signing that extension. So he's probably not in u

1848
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 1: held in high regard right now by the Patriots given

1849
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 1: the fact that he hasn't played in twenty He's not

1850
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 1: gonna have played in till at twenty games. So yeah,

1851
01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,719
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things going on in New England

1852
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,479
Speaker 1: inside that building that point toward a down year for

1853
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: them at this point. But by the same token, it

1854
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: is may I know and I wouln't even I'm not

1855
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 1: taking it even to the point where a down year,

1856
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if any of this will

1857
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: have any impact at all of how they plays. Going

1858
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: to a little bit a good player now, they didn't

1859
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: play it all. They went to the Super Bowl without

1860
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: him last year and now that, but now they don't

1861
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 1: have Ammendola who's defected to Miami, and now Edelman's going

1862
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: to be gone for a month, So now they are

1863
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: going to be using different faces for Tom Brady. Doesn't

1864
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: it also in some respect? Give doesn't that take away

1865
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: from some of the Patriot mystique If their players can

1866
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: get suspended for a peeds you know, is there really

1867
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: such thing as a Patriot way? You know, when one

1868
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: of their player, an important player and Julian Edelman can

1869
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: get caught and suspended for four games? What is the

1870
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 1: Patriot way? I mean? In some respects there's more evidence

1871
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 1: suggesting that the Patriot way is flaunting the rules, whether

1872
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:04,760
Speaker 1: it's an inflation of footballs, violating standards for peds, um

1873
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 1: using the improper use of video cameras. Is that maybe

1874
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 1: the Patriot way cheating, going against the rules. Maybe that's

1875
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 1: the real Patriot way. Don't look at me like I'm

1876
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: listening to you. Have had a number of controversies surrounding

1877
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: their camp, no question about it. But they continue to

1878
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 1: um to win games, yep. And it doesn't make it

1879
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: right if they're getting illegal help or doing things that

1880
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,719
Speaker 1: are illegal that nobody else can or does get away with. Fine,

1881
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,320
Speaker 1: but they have yet to remember they got caught on

1882
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 1: doing a lot of that stuff. Uh, and for a

1883
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 1: lot of reasons, the league put protocols in place to

1884
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: make sure they can't do that anymore because of them, man,

1885
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: no question, Bill Belichick got fined a ton of money

1886
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:55,640
Speaker 1: for Spygate because they went in direct conflict to a

1887
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 1: a memo that they got that week, and they still

1888
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 1: were filming defensive signals. So the inflation of footballs, deflation

1889
01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: of footballs a minor, minor offense. And yet when they

1890
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 1: get caught all of a sudden, Tom Brady smashing up

1891
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: his cell phone and yeah, and I'll tell you this too.

1892
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: The people I've talked and a lot of this stuff.

1893
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking the deflated footballs to me, and

1894
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,679
Speaker 1: I get it. It's a it's a big story. Because

1895
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 1: it turned into a big story. That's a twenty five

1896
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: thousand dollars fine, don't do that again. The way they

1897
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:31,719
Speaker 1: handled it, the way they handled all of a sudden,

1898
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: it turned into this huge literally a federal court case. Yeah,

1899
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: So it turned into a federal case because they wouldn't

1900
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 1: come clean and that's the thing that separates them as

1901
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: much as anything. When they get caught doing this stuff,

1902
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: they categorically couldn't deny any wrongdoing. Who never did anything.

1903
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 1: It's we're getting picked on that and when in fact

1904
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: the matter is they get caught red handed. That's why

1905
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: we hate the Patriots. And you're saying we not done.

1906
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: Just us in Buffalo. By the way, I think it's

1907
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 1: the mouse in your pocket saying weis. And I don't

1908
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 1: hate them, I don't haven't known. You respect the way

1909
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: they flaunt the rules and and do what they want

1910
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: and deny it when they get caught. Right, Well, let's

1911
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: put it this way. The Baltimore Ravens got fined their

1912
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: head coach and their and their team got fined also

1913
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 1: with a draft pick this last two days ago for

1914
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: overdoing these OTAs. I though thought they were going to

1915
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 1: OTA time. I'm sorry, you're right, it's not a draft pick.

1916
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:28,040
Speaker 1: As a mistake they got They can't have two days

1917
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,719
Speaker 1: of their OTAs, and their head coach and their GM

1918
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:35,640
Speaker 1: or their organization got fined six figures. And it's not

1919
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 1: even a blip on the radar, not even nobody in

1920
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 1: the ESPN. There's no on site. There's no live shot,

1921
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing, I mean, there's nothing. It is

1922
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 1: like crickets in the national media when Baltimore Ravens get

1923
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 1: caught redheaded. And you know why, because when the Ravens

1924
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 1: get caught and they go, you know what, here's our thing.

1925
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: We tried to tell our guys we're trying to treat him.

1926
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: And they made a statement said, yeah, they didn't. They

1927
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: didn't deny it. They deny it. They kind of blame

1928
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: the players. Our guys are playing too hard. We don't

1929
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,080
Speaker 1: know how to stop. But here's the things are You're right,

1930
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: that's a lame excuse. Nevertheless, why why aren't where's the

1931
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 1: outrage for them breaking the rules? Where's the outrage? And

1932
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: it's only because the Patriots have won five of seven

1933
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:20,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowls or was it five or seven? Five or eight?

1934
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Five of seven super Bowls over the last seventeen years

1935
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: and people hate them for it. Yeah, they win, and

1936
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: we're expected to, you know, kiss their rings and pay

1937
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 1: homage to them. And yet every once in a while

1938
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: they get a player, just like many teams do, a

1939
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: players suspended for peed use, or every once in a while,

1940
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 1: something else happens doesn't go on. But there's there's also

1941
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 1: the petty stuff too, Murph. When a player comes out

1942
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: of there and says, hey, they don't have any fun,

1943
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 1: and everybody's pile on this big story. Everybody wants to

1944
01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: know about it, Bill Belijas Scotto dead. Nobody's having anything.

1945
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: They We're here to win game. They don't care. I

1946
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: don't care. But you know what, everybody revels in the

1947
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:57,240
Speaker 1: fact that, well, they may be winning all these but

1948
01:36:57,280 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: they're not having as much fun as as our guys.

1949
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they had a lot of fun in Cleveland

1950
01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:04,240
Speaker 1: last year. I bet that when in a game, we're

1951
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 1: right anyway. That's why we hate the Patriots. Yes, yes,

1952
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:11,600
Speaker 1: we I mean me and the countless listeners Bill right

1953
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: now are nodding their head saying, yes, that's why I

1954
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: don't have any hate in my heart. Chris Brown joining

1955
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:19,519
Speaker 1: us next Bills Insider from Buffalo Bills dot Com. We're back,

1956
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Come on back, One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

1957
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:39,280
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio, Buffalo Hills Radio Network. Sports

1958
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 1: update update from One Bill's Drive where the Bills wrapped

1959
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: up their final OTA today Organized TEMI Activity ten sessions

1960
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 1: in the books. They take the weekend off. They're back

1961
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,480
Speaker 1: on Tuesday to begin mini camp. Three days of mandatory

1962
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 1: mini camp starting next Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, third, Thursday, the

1963
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 1: final three sessions before the Bills break before training camp.

1964
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: Patriots wide receiver Julian Leman is appealing that four game

1965
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:05,679
Speaker 1: suspension that he got yesterday for violating the NFL's policy

1966
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:10,599
Speaker 1: on performance enhancing substances. The suspension under appeal. ESPN says

1967
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: Edeman has taken hundreds of tests and has never tested

1968
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 1: positive before. Terrell Owens selected fur In Shriman into the

1969
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, says he will decline the

1970
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 1: invitation to attend. He says the Hall of Fame knows

1971
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: of his intentions. He will celebrate his induction at a

1972
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: later date. Stanley Cup Hockey, they are celebrating the Stanley

1973
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 1: Cup in Washington and Alexovetkin not just a Stanley Cup

1974
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 1: champion for the first time ever. He is also the

1975
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: winner the con Smythe Trophy as Most Valuable Player of

1976
01:38:36,120 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs. He led the Caps with fifteen goals this

1977
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:43,280
Speaker 1: cold season, first Stanley Cup in Washington franchise history. They

1978
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:45,800
Speaker 1: finished off the Las Vegas Golden Knights in five games.

1979
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: Last night, it was a four three win on a

1980
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 1: late third period of goal for Washington. First championship for

1981
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: a professional team based in Washington, d C. In twenty

1982
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 1: six years. The football team did it last. All South

1983
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: forward Kevin Durant of the Golden State Warriors said he

1984
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 1: will resign with the Warriors this summer, finishing the first

1985
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:06,080
Speaker 1: year of a discounted two year deal with the Warriors

1986
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 1: then included an opt out clause for the twenty eighteen

1987
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 1: twenty nine season. It is Game four tonight the NBA

1988
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 1: Finals in Cleveland. It's a nine o'clock tip off Golden

1989
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: State and the Cleveland Cavaliers nine o'clock, three games to none.

1990
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 1: Golden State can finish them off with the victory tonight

1991
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. And that's the update from One Bill's Drive,

1992
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker, one Bills Live from One Bills

1993
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: Drive and or one Buffalo Studio and joining us in

1994
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: the studio right now, Bills Insider from Buffalo bills dot Com.

1995
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Hey, one thing, Steve, we're talking about this

1996
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 1: so now. NBA Finals nine o'clock tip off tonight in

1997
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland why why? Why? Because the people out west are

1998
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: the ones that are interested and don't think it and

1999
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 1: we'll actually watch it even though it's over already. I'm

2000
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 1: gonna watch tonight. I'm interested. I think I think Cleveland's

2001
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna win. We're just we're but nine o'clock tip off

2002
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: way too late. Cleveland ain't gonna win one more. Not

2003
01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,640
Speaker 1: what I want to ask you. You want to get

2004
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: better over it, but Cleveland ain't gonna win. Um. Oh,

2005
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: here it is. This was Steve's hotbutton yesterday. I don't

2006
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: know if you caught it, Carol Owens. TiO, oh not going.

2007
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 1: I made the high I made the highlights on the radio.

2008
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:19,640
Speaker 1: It was impressive. But I think TiO is basically disrespecting

2009
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 1: every Hall of Famer in this year's class, every Hall

2010
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 1: of Famer there has ever been. He's disrespecting the guys

2011
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,800
Speaker 1: who won't make it to the Hall of Famer, never

2012
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 1: made through the Hall of Fame like this guy. I

2013
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: think it's terrible what he's doing. Do you having to

2014
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 1: take for us a hot take? Please don't try to

2015
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 1: match Steve yesterday. I was trying to take Tio's full

2016
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 1: perspective as a human being in terms of how he

2017
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: would come around to this decision. Right, um, And believe me,

2018
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: everybody's been through their own kind of stuff through the

2019
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:55,479
Speaker 1: course of their lives. Okay, but I know where you're

2020
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 1: going with this. But if you respect the shield and

2021
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,880
Speaker 1: the teammates that you played with and the guys that

2022
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: helped you put up all those statistics over the years

2023
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: that you did, then I think you honor them appropriately

2024
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 1: by thanking them on a stage like this. And I

2025
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: think he'll personally regret it for the rest of his

2026
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 1: life if he doesn't participate. I think he will not now,

2027
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: maybe not in September, maybe not next year, but I

2028
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 1: think when he's on that rocking chair, he's going to

2029
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: regret that he didn't make this, you know, the epitaph

2030
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: for his career he's going into in the same year

2031
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 1: as for instance, Ray Lewis and several others, I mean,

2032
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: some great players, Jerry Kramer, Randy Moss. He has separated

2033
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,520
Speaker 1: himself from that group, and I think it's a separation

2034
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,080
Speaker 1: that leads you to believe that he thinks he's better

2035
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: than that group in some way, and that I find

2036
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 1: extremely distasteful and disrespectful. Well, I mean and what's this

2037
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 1: famous quote, I like me and me. Yeah. I think

2038
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: this is the quintessential example of that. He still likes

2039
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: me some me. Yeah, And you know, that's that's just

2040
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: who he is. I I was. I didn't like you know,

2041
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: he was only here a year. I remember he came here.

2042
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 1: I had to do a sit down interview with him.

2043
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to be cordial. I'm looking, I'm

2044
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 1: trying to look him in the eye and he puts

2045
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 1: his hand. I put my hand out to shake his

2046
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,000
Speaker 1: hand and say, hey, nice to meet you, welcome to Buffalo.

2047
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 1: I get the dead fish handshake, and he never makes

2048
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,679
Speaker 1: eye contact, doesn't pick his head up from his phone.

2049
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,519
Speaker 1: So the way I was taught, that doesn't really leave

2050
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 1: a very good first impression. So from there on he

2051
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't a good person in my book. So

2052
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of well, you know, and again I

2053
01:42:47,479 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: try to understand where the person's coming from. I know,

2054
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: he had a pretty trying upbringing down in Alabama. Finds

2055
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: out at like age twelve or thirteen that his biological

2056
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: father is the guy that lives across the street with

2057
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: an other family. I mean, he had a he had

2058
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: some messed up stuff, and I understand why he had

2059
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 1: some trust issues. But you know, once you reach adulthood,

2060
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: you've enjoyed the success that you've had. You gotta put

2061
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: some of that stuff in the rear view mirror and

2062
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:18,560
Speaker 1: stop playing a victim, because I mean, come on, you

2063
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:20,640
Speaker 1: just got and you're gonna get inducted into the Pro

2064
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame and you're gonna claim you're a victim.

2065
01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on. I mean and and

2066
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 1: some people were saying that he might be mad that

2067
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't a first ballot Hall of Famer. You know,

2068
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 1: there's there's a guy who's there's a guy who's getting

2069
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: his number retired. Here this this fall uh in Buffalo

2070
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: who had to go on a second ballot, who probably

2071
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: should have been a first ballot, and you don't see

2072
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 1: him complaining. So I mean, come on, just be better

2073
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,560
Speaker 1: than that. Just be better. Yeah, it's you're starting to

2074
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,960
Speaker 1: get me worked up here now, Murph, Well and stunned

2075
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 1: this bro. I'm trying to stay detached. Did somebody tell

2076
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 1: you I got war myself out? He took a valot

2077
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,080
Speaker 1: jay game of value. You don't talk anymore about I

2078
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 1: had I had, did Sarah tell you keep your mouth shut?

2079
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 1: I had to take a nap after the show yesterday.

2080
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:06,920
Speaker 1: I was so tired from my rant. It was a

2081
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: good rant, I was, you know, it's one of those

2082
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 1: rants where I could I was started sweating and then

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01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, okay, all right. But then

2084
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: this morning I'm driving in and Howard and those guys

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01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 1: played my rant on the on the thing. I was like,

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01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 1: and now I treat started treating callers bad when they

2087
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 1: started to try to pump the brakes on my rant. Yeah,

2088
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't having it. Have you changed your mind? Then?

2089
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 1: Is that what we are led to believe here, Steve?

2090
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:36,719
Speaker 1: I haven't either shot. No, not even close. It's not criminal.

2091
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: And the one thing, and Lorenzo made a good point,

2092
01:44:39,920 --> 01:44:41,560
Speaker 1: we're talking about this city Brown. I don't want to

2093
01:44:41,560 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: focus on this all day. But Lorenzo said, you know,

2094
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 1: it's like a convenient excuse these days. Well, he has

2095
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 1: the right to do that. Of course, he has the

2096
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:49,720
Speaker 1: right to do that. He has a right to do

2097
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,400
Speaker 1: any number of insensitive, selfish things. That doesn't make it right.

2098
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: It's wrong. Just because you have the right to do something,

2099
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,680
Speaker 1: you don't do it thinking, well, I'm good. No, you're not.

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01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,400
Speaker 1: You're wrong. Yeah, I just don't know why if you

2101
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 1: feel like you've been a victim your whole career, whether

2102
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: you've been painted as a bad teammate, whether you've been

2103
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is his perspective, not mine. He's obviously

2104
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: feels he's been painted as a bad teammate over the

2105
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 1: course of his career, that he's petulant and only cares

2106
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:22,919
Speaker 1: about himself. Well, here's a perfect opportunity to get welcomed,

2107
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 1: welcomed into an exclusive fraternity that only numbers in the hundreds,

2108
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,840
Speaker 1: and he is choosing to bypass that, even though he

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01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 1: was honored by that very group and put in that

2110
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 1: elite company, He's going to bypass it anyway. And you know,

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01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 1: I saw his statement yesterday and you can, I mean

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01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 1: you can interpret it and read it. However, the heck

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01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 1: was all read it well written, well written, But an agent.

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01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody that knows t O or has

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01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 1: been around him believes for a second that any of

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01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 1: that stuff is genuine in any way, shape or for all. Right,

2117
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: we won't focus in anymore. Let's talk about the Buffalo Bills.

2118
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 1: Chris Brown is with US Bills inside a Buffalo Bills

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01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 1: dot com. If you have for the thought, for Christ,

2120
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: what are you laughing about? I wouldn't be surprised if

2121
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 1: there's an ulterior motive there to make him the biggest

2122
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: part of Hall of Fame weekends when he relents and

2123
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: then decides to go in the eleventh hour, watch it happened. Listen.

2124
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:21,320
Speaker 1: I'll just add this one thing to so you go

2125
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame if those of you have

2126
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,600
Speaker 1: never been to the Hall of Fame, the weekend is

2127
01:46:24,720 --> 01:46:31,599
Speaker 1: it's spectacular, it's great, and every inductee has an event

2128
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: of their own. After the induction ceremonis which you see

2129
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 1: on television, the speeches and stuff that guan all day,

2130
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 1: and you know it's a little bit lengthy, no question,

2131
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:41,000
Speaker 1: but it's you know, it's their moment. A party after that,

2132
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: every one of the inductees has their own party, which

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01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,879
Speaker 1: part which is an afterparty, which is invitation only. Obviously

2134
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: there's some entertainment there and big huge tens and all

2135
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 1: of that. Always those events are sponsored by the players team.

2136
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 1: For for instance, the Buffalo Bills did Jim Kelly, James

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01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:06,120
Speaker 1: Lofton and Bill Polly and Marv Levy, Bruce Smith, all

2138
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 1: those guys had Ralph Wilson. Mister Wilson had and a

2139
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 1: tent and and he did his party and Bruce's party

2140
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: in the same year. Yeah, so they you know, they

2141
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 1: stepped up. They had a cake of his gold jacket

2142
01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 1: that was I'm still blown away by that awesome. So

2143
01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 1: this happens. Well, so Terrell Owens goes to goes to Canton.

2144
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to foot the bill for his bill, his deal.

2145
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 1: I waited for five teams R right, and none of

2146
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 1: them want any part of him. Who's gonna foot the

2147
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 1: bill for that? I don't know? And who's gonna show

2148
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 1: up for it? I don't know. So you think he might,

2149
01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:46,480
Speaker 1: You might see there might be a level of embarrassment

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01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: that he doesn't want to entertain. No, I don't know.

2151
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 1: But here's another question. What is what I go is?

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01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:53,920
Speaker 1: What's he gonna go in? Is he gonna go in

2153
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:55,920
Speaker 1: as a Niner? As a bill is you know it's

2154
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 1: not like baseball where they've had a hat on. Yeah,

2155
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 1: who's But still here's another question. If he does decide

2156
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 1: to go and heck's presenting that guy, well, his his

2157
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach from the Niners. One of them. Okay,

2158
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: And there was a couple of guys who chimed in

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01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 1: that said he I asked him, who's gonna come? He

2160
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,600
Speaker 1: had like one name that was gonna be and he

2161
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 1: had his fingers crossed. Yeah. So this is the result

2162
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 1: of the kind of teammate he was. Yeah. And and

2163
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: here he says, he, you know, we we got into

2164
01:48:28,160 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 1: it pretty deeply yesterday and I want to move on.

2165
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 1: But just to be clear, we're not. I'm not saying

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01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 1: nobody's saying he's a criminal, he's an awful person. It's

2167
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 1: just it's a tremendously selfish, self centered thing to do,

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01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: I think, and it's it's very disrespectful. It's a bad idea.

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01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 1: It's a bad idea, it's a bad look. It's bad

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Speaker 1: on a lot of levels. All right, now, Bill's for

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01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,599
Speaker 1: this year. If you have a commoner question for Chris

2172
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: or Steve, the phone line's open eight O three fifty

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01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,799
Speaker 1: and twelve three one eight eight fifty two five fifty Brownie.

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01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 1: Let's start with our Twitter because we think it's one

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01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: of the best ones we've had. It's a pretty good one.

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01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 1: Our Twitter pole deals with quarterbacks, which usually generate the

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01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 1: most activity. And look, there were questions yesterday when Sean

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01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 1: McDermott met with the media about when is Josh Allen

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01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 1: gonna get first team reps. I don't think it's we're

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01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 1: at the point where it's an issue yet, but it's

2181
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 1: worthy of discussion our Twitter poll. Are the Bills taking

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01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: the right approach with rookie quarterback Josh Allen? When should

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01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 1: Allen get his crack at first team reps? And why? Yeah?

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01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 1: And again if you want to call in, we'll take

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01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: your calls right now. Forty three percent of our respondents

2186
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter say he should get his first team reps

2187
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: in preseason, thirty nine percent say mini camp next week,

2188
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 1: three percent of the folks say regular season, and fifteen

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01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 1: percent have something else in mind. Brodie, what do you

2190
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,439
Speaker 1: think it's not? First of all, I know you're not

2191
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:48,880
Speaker 1: going to tell us it's an issue. It's not a

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01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,680
Speaker 1: big issue right now. He's been here three weeks, right,

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01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:56,320
Speaker 1: four weeks, been here since rookie minicamp. Sure, not an issue,

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01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 1: not an issue? But when should get first team reps?

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01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 1: Training camp? Okay, training not next week? No? And he's

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01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:08,719
Speaker 1: behind I mean he's three weeks behind the two vets

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01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:13,000
Speaker 1: and he I mean, and in no way, in no

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01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 1: way has he shown that he's lost his head swimming.

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01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 1: Dabel doesn't have to pull him out, read the play

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01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: to him again and say run it again. There hasn't

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01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: been any of that. I mean, he's shown a very

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01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:27,680
Speaker 1: good acumen for picking up the scheme and executing it

2203
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:29,640
Speaker 1: out on the field. I mean, there was there was

2204
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: a set of plays where the offense just went off

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01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: on their own, working basically walk through, but it was

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01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: hurry up play calls, which includes signals, you know, and

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01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: so there's you know, with one or two word call

2208
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: and then they make a gesture also in case anybody

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01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,120
Speaker 1: can hear them that is associated with that call. And

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01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 1: they ran through about sixteen seventeen of them, and Josh

2211
01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 1: was running him because aj was on the other side

2212
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 1: of the field working with another unit. Anyway, I mean,

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01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 1: just as comfortable as comfortable can be, just calling it out,

2214
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 1: gesturing it, executing it. All right, what's the next one? Okay,

2215
01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 1: next one, you know, whatever it is. I just think

2216
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,639
Speaker 1: he takes a lot of the learning in stride rather easily,

2217
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: and so I think there will come a point in

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01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:25,240
Speaker 1: time where his command, which we hear Coach mcdermoy talk

2219
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: about an awful lot, his command of this scheme will

2220
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 1: be on par with the other two guys. It's just

2221
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 1: it's an eventual thing. It's a when, not an if,

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01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 1: based on what I've seen so far. And then I

2223
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 1: think as far as execution, you know, that's that's when

2224
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,240
Speaker 1: the rubber meets the road. That's when the rubber meets

2225
01:51:44,280 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 1: the road. Is his decision making his execution better than

2226
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 1: the other two guys. But we've got to get there first.

2227
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: And also we have to remember there's a different dynamic

2228
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 1: here at work. Two A. J mccaron is just as

2229
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: new as Josh Allen is to this environment and AJ

2230
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 1: mccaron's the vet. And I think Coach McDermott has to

2231
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: demonstrate a measure of respect for guys that have skins

2232
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 1: on the wall time in the league. Yeah, not a

2233
01:52:10,880 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 1: lot of starts, but time in the league. And I

2234
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: think he's trying to respect that and put that in

2235
01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: its proper context and not just hand the keys to

2236
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 1: the car to the new kid on the block right

2237
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 1: out of the gate, because where does that leave aj

2238
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 1: AG's Like, did I even have a chance, like, what

2239
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: the hell. One of the things I think he's got

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01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: to balance that. One of the things we were talking

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01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 1: about earlier that I brought up was, you know, when

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01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about a timeline of when you can expect

2243
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to you know, step up to the plate.

2244
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:39,599
Speaker 1: And I brought this up to Murf earlier in the show.

2245
01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 1: Look back at last year, Nate Peterman comes in as

2246
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick with an incumbent starting quarterback,

2247
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:48,000
Speaker 1: and it was week ten he got in. But that

2248
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:50,560
Speaker 1: was when after a week after Tyrod Taylor thrown for

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01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:54,080
Speaker 1: fifty six yards in a game. So at the point,

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Speaker 1: and I said, there's your starting point, I said, now

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01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 1: you've got a first round guy with first round ability.

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01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 1: I guess, a guy who was a fifth round pick

2253
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 1: and when he came in but only has forty he

2254
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 1: was an incumbent starters. So I think that shortens it

2255
01:53:06,840 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 1: from week ten down to take your pick. So that's

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01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,599
Speaker 1: your starting point, and there's endless And I also said,

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01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:15,759
Speaker 1: you're assuming McCarron gets to the regular season week one exactly,

2258
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: Well that maybe I don't think you can rule out either.

2259
01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 1: It may be it may be even shorter than that,

2260
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:22,240
Speaker 1: because you know, the thing I thought about it too,

2261
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 1: is this is a coaching staff the proved last year

2262
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:28,760
Speaker 1: by taking Tyrod Taylor out. When it's time, it's time.

2263
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna They're not gonna say, Okay, we're gonna

2264
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: start working him in, like give him a series here

2265
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 1: in this game before we signed. It's going to be

2266
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,720
Speaker 1: a light switch. But I think they want to see

2267
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 1: more of Josh, preferably when the real bullets are flying,

2268
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 1: when pads are on, there's an actual blitz period in

2269
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 1: practice where guys are coming at him. Let's see how

2270
01:53:48,800 --> 01:53:52,200
Speaker 1: his execution is there. Let's not jump the gun on

2271
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 1: this and be premature because, based on the fact that

2272
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 1: he was the seventh pick in the draft, comes in

2273
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: with all of these expectations. As soon as you make

2274
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 1: the move to him, it's over. What's over as soon

2275
01:54:05,600 --> 01:54:08,680
Speaker 1: as he's if he's one on your depth chart and

2276
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 1: you say as much, it's done unless he falls completely

2277
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: on his face for four weeks in a row. And

2278
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm not ruling that out either. What about Yeah, I joked,

2279
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 1: that's when you go back. But Josh Allen comes in,

2280
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: throws five interceptions and a half like may Peer, you

2281
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 1: know what I mean, it's going to last four games, right,

2282
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 1: But I mean that's the thing I think there are

2283
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: there are a very delicate set of dynamics here that

2284
01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: I think the coaching staff is trying to navigate the

2285
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 1: number one They're trying priority number one guys, get the

2286
01:54:38,440 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 1: offense installed, get that done before you even want to start.

2287
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: That's why I've been trying to ask coach McDermott and

2288
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: Coach Table that very same question. How are you balancing

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Speaker 1: those two agendas that both have to get done before

2290
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Speaker 1: you get to week one? Is one taking priority over

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01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 1: the other? I would assume, because I really didn't get

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01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,320
Speaker 1: a definitive answer from either of him on it, that

2293
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:03,360
Speaker 1: that offense, that offense has to get set. You got

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01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: to get that thing set first. And at the same time,

2295
01:55:06,280 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: you're doing a three way quarterback competition. Are you getting

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01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 1: enough reps with the all with the ten other guys

2297
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 1: on offense that you're gonna put out on the field

2298
01:55:13,440 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: on a Sunday where you feel ready for the season

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01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 1: and then ultimately the guy who you're picking has to

2300
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: be ready also, right, See, if you can settle this

2301
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:23,920
Speaker 1: disagreement that Steve and I have had for a couple

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01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 1: of days about this issue. Chris I maintained that in

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01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 1: the back of his mind, Sean McDermot and probably Brian

2304
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:32,640
Speaker 1: Dable have a plan in place for this very question.

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01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 1: When do we start getting first team reps? Probably probably preseason.

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01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 1: Steve's point, don't let me misrepresent you, But you were

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01:55:39,360 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 1: saying yesterday, he's got to earn it. He's got to

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01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 1: earn it. I agree with that, But don't you think

2309
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:45,760
Speaker 1: at some point they know we got to start seeing

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01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 1: this guy with first team reps. Maybe you know, first

2311
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:52,520
Speaker 1: week training camp, second week was at our disagreement yesterday? Yeah, yeah,

2312
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:54,760
Speaker 1: what was your side of it that they have a

2313
01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:56,720
Speaker 1: plan they if you woke come up in the middle

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01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 1: of now, you think that time table has already been

2315
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 1: laid out. Yeah, pretty much unless something and goes, you know, hey, wire,

2316
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: if somebody's really not playing, and I'll say this, you're right,

2317
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 1: and I think there is a plan like that. But

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01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of question marks about that

2319
01:56:08,720 --> 01:56:11,600
Speaker 1: plan because they gotta they gotta see certain things in

2320
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 1: each of those players. I think there's just Josh. It's

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01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: not just about Josh, it's about aj There are mile posts,

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01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 1: and yeah, exactly, if some of those mile posts start

2323
01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: to get out of sync for either one of those guys,

2324
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 1: it's going to affect the time for them to adjust

2325
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 1: their plan. I told Murphy we were talking about this,

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01:56:30,400 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 1: what if AJ gets in the in there and we're

2327
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 1: talking telling us to the listeners, you're not gonna make

2328
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 1: that switch. If AJ's playing well, the teams winning games, right,

2329
01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 1: the timelines out the win, they don't care about the timeline.

2330
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 1: They don't care about Josh Allen. As long as AJ's

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01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 1: playing well and the teams winning in regular season right right,

2332
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 1: they don't none of that foolish no matter, None of

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01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 1: that matters, um and that could happen, who knows. But uh,

2334
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:56,080
Speaker 1: the simple fact the matter is if they're playing oh,

2335
01:56:56,240 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: you know, then you start getting into the gray area.

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01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 1: If it's less than playing well winning games well, then

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01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's got to be back on the table because

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01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: if they're not playing well but winning games, or if

2339
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: they're playing well and everybody's playing well, accept AJ, you

2340
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. If they're winning games and

2341
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,640
Speaker 1: AJ playing terrible a little bit like like Tyrod last year,

2342
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: he just he wasn't throwing the ball well, and they

2343
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 1: were still winning games somehow, so they didn't want to

2344
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 1: upset that Apple car. And there's also the you know,

2345
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 1: the concern of wrecking the potential franchise quarterback, but nobody

2346
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 1: throwing too much at him too soon, putting him out there,

2347
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:31,880
Speaker 1: throwing him in the deep end and then having a

2348
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,680
Speaker 1: setback out a deep killing his confidence and whatever else.

2349
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 1: Because yeah, because we got into that, and we know

2350
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:39,680
Speaker 1: what happened last year when they did that with the rookie,

2351
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 1: So you know, we got we got into the argument

2352
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: too about throwing him into the deep end with an

2353
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:50,840
Speaker 1: anchor tied around his like like Derek Carr, you know,

2354
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 1: or David Carr and David Carr back in Houston back

2355
01:57:54,280 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 1: in the day. Yeah, you can, you can go down

2356
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 1: the lead. Who's been ruined? But a question, but I'm

2357
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 1: not afraid to ask the stupid questions. Why do we

2358
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 1: have so much concern about Josh Allen not ruining him

2359
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 1: not and no similar concern for tree meting Edmonds. It's like, oh, yeah,

2360
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 1: he's the guy, first round pick, gotta play play him

2361
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: right away. I go back. We have a different position.

2362
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,960
Speaker 1: I know that first tweet of the day first round

2363
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 1: picks get first team reps. But we don't think that

2364
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 1: about quarterbacks. We think about every other position. I think

2365
01:58:23,240 --> 01:58:25,640
Speaker 1: in due time you think that about a first round quarterback.

2366
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 1: But there it's just like you said, Murph, there's a plan,

2367
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:33,400
Speaker 1: and I think they're going to be more careful with

2368
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 1: Alan than they are with Edmonds for the simple fact

2369
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 1: that there ain't nobody like Edmonds at middle linebacker on

2370
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: the roster. Nobody, It's not even close. I mean we

2371
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: talked about that he's an Adonis out there and he's

2372
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 1: wise beyond his years from a football IQ Stamps assured

2373
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:55,600
Speaker 1: that you and I have never been called when you

2374
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:59,080
Speaker 1: have players perfume the Christian when you have players that playing,

2375
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 1: when you have Enzo Alexander, who's been in the league

2376
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 1: for thirteen years and has seen an awful lot, say,

2377
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,240
Speaker 1: this guy's an athletic freaks to be in the Pro

2378
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 1: Bowl in a couple of years. I mean, it's gonna

2379
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: be all Pro. Yeah forget Pro Bowl. Yeah, I mean

2380
01:59:11,560 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 1: I get it, and and you're right, it's it's different

2381
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 1: when you talk about a linebacker, because like a cornerback

2382
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: like Tredevius White, they plugged him in day one last

2383
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:25,960
Speaker 1: year and he took off, although I don't know if

2384
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 1: it's as fast as Tremaine Edmonds got plugged in. Yeah,

2385
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 1: I think Tredevious went through a little bit of training

2386
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 1: camp and then one day Week one got around, he

2387
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 1: ended up getting a pick and all he was well

2388
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:36,680
Speaker 1: by the end of By the end of OTA's coach

2389
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: Fraser said, we knew, but they didn't let us know.

2390
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 1: But they knew. So there's no reason totally different. Well,

2391
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:48,960
Speaker 1: the requirements, it's a different animal, it's a it's a

2392
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 1: different different look, different requirements and and you here's the

2393
01:59:53,080 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 1: thing too, particularly on defensive side of the football. You

2394
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 1: can have a guy over there playing horrible. You may

2395
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:01,840
Speaker 1: never f find out because the ball never comes at him,

2396
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 1: or he never gets asked to make the matchup, never

2397
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 1: comes to him, and he's never the crutch. You can

2398
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:10,680
Speaker 1: have eleven guys play horrible on defense and you got

2399
02:00:10,760 --> 02:00:13,880
Speaker 1: one guy that makes the play. Nobody'll ever know. You

2400
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 1: can hide a bad defender in some ways or and

2401
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 1: you don't look bad for putting a guy out there

2402
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 1: and when he's supposed to be there, you can't really

2403
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:24,440
Speaker 1: tell if he's supposed to be there, just as live

2404
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:27,560
Speaker 1: action goes. When a quarterback comes in throws five picks

2405
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,480
Speaker 1: and a half, you can't hide it, okay, and and

2406
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 1: and don't get me wrong, or if I mean much

2407
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: like Edmonds is head and shoulders figuratively and literally above

2408
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 1: any other competition he has. At middle linebacker, Josh Allen

2409
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:45,320
Speaker 1: is far and away the most physically gifted to the

2410
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks. It's not even close. But as we know,

2411
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,600
Speaker 1: that position is more than just physical ability. It's about

2412
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:56,640
Speaker 1: decision making on a consistent basis. And that's what he

2413
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:59,240
Speaker 1: has to prove to this coaching staff. I can do that.

2414
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:01,400
Speaker 1: Not only can I do it, I can do it

2415
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:03,600
Speaker 1: better than this four year veteran and this guy who

2416
02:01:03,640 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: played for you last year. And I can do it

2417
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:09,760
Speaker 1: week after week after week. That's the that's the challenge

2418
02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:11,600
Speaker 1: for him. He's got to prove that he's got the

2419
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 1: physical ability in spades. Now, prove you can be the

2420
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:17,320
Speaker 1: most consistent decision maker at the position. Chris Brown, Bills

2421
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 1: Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com with us for a couple

2422
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:21,360
Speaker 1: more minutes. If you have comments questions, now is the

2423
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 1: time to phone him. In eight oh three, five fifty

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Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

2425
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 1: five fifty. OTA's ended today, Christie, you're OTA All Star

2426
02:01:30,640 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: team yet or you're doing that. I don't. I don't

2427
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: have I might have a spring spring team. We'll see.

2428
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:37,920
Speaker 1: I know you'd like to do. I do it at

2429
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 1: the end of training camp. Training camp awards. Yeah, no,

2430
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 1: OTA awards. The otis the oh wow, we really reach

2431
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 1: it now, wow. Yeah. No, there were some standouts. No,

2432
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean there have been some guys that

2433
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:54,480
Speaker 1: have put together a good couple of weeks. Um, you know,

2434
02:01:54,520 --> 02:01:57,240
Speaker 1: I kind of like what some of the receivers have done.

2435
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 1: And typically this is the time of year when, you know,

2436
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 1: the skill position guys stand out more because the you know,

2437
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 1: the linemen aren't playing real football, you know, so they

2438
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 1: can't really show out. It's like, how's the lineman looking.

2439
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:09,840
Speaker 1: It's like, wow, well, well this is kind of you know,

2440
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 1: they're not going one on one either. I mean, they're

2441
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:13,920
Speaker 1: just they're going out there. Anybody can catch a ball

2442
02:02:13,920 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 1: against the air, do it. Everybody does every Thanksgiving on

2443
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 1: their front ball and they I mean there's one on

2444
02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 1: one stuff. I mean, there's team segments. So I think

2445
02:02:22,840 --> 02:02:25,040
Speaker 1: he had a good couple of weeks he's done okay, Yeah,

2446
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he's been I don't think he had

2447
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,040
Speaker 1: he's performed like he did in training camp last year.

2448
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's there yet, but he did okay.

2449
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:34,720
Speaker 1: I think he he held his wherever he was when

2450
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,760
Speaker 1: he came in. He didn't lose any ground. For what

2451
02:02:36,840 --> 02:02:39,320
Speaker 1: about what about the two young draft picks at wide

2452
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 1: receiver Ray Ray McLeod and Austin McLeod has flashed more

2453
02:02:44,160 --> 02:02:49,640
Speaker 1: than Prole. Um McLeod offers more from an athletic standpoint,

2454
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:54,280
Speaker 1: and um, I think they're running him on deeper routes, uh,

2455
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:58,400
Speaker 1: deep crossers, stuff like that more than Prole, who's kind

2456
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 1: of doing those little inside out routes, those little slot

2457
02:03:01,320 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 1: routes stuff to the flat Ray Ray McCloud right now. Yeah,

2458
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:10,880
Speaker 1: and he's he's had experience there. Um, so it makes sense.

2459
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:15,160
Speaker 1: I think McLeod has the extra gear that you're kind

2460
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:18,640
Speaker 1: of looking for, not from a forty time watch perspective,

2461
02:03:18,680 --> 02:03:21,360
Speaker 1: but when you put him on the field, his speed

2462
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:25,280
Speaker 1: somehow translates there. He plays faster than maybe even times

2463
02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And so I think if he comes

2464
02:03:28,880 --> 02:03:31,840
Speaker 1: along in camp, you know he's got a good shot

2465
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 1: to be one of the five or six that are

2466
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: going to be on the roster. He's got some learning

2467
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 1: to do. He's young at the position, and even at

2468
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:40,560
Speaker 1: Clemson he was kind of a jack of all trades.

2469
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know where to put him. He comes from

2470
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 1: a running back background when he was a younger player,

2471
02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:47,840
Speaker 1: so he likes the physic physicality and the contact. He's

2472
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 1: not intimidated by that. I think that's going to help

2473
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 1: him in camp when the pads go on and now

2474
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:56,120
Speaker 1: people are pressing him and you know, jockeying for position

2475
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 1: with him down the field. I worry about Prole from

2476
02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 1: that standpoint point because some of the stuff he's doing

2477
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:04,520
Speaker 1: and getting separation now I think goes away when the

2478
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:06,160
Speaker 1: pads go on and guys can put their hands on

2479
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:09,280
Speaker 1: both these guys have to contribute on special teams at

2480
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 1: that spot on the roster. If they're the fifth and

2481
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:12,960
Speaker 1: six wide out there, they gotta be a return guy

2482
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:14,720
Speaker 1: or cover guy or something like that. I mean, and

2483
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:17,520
Speaker 1: they're both on those units right now for a second,

2484
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 1: third team whatever. I think McLeod's got the better chance

2485
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:26,080
Speaker 1: to stick again a little bit more athletic ability, elusiveness,

2486
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:29,400
Speaker 1: change of direction, lateral agility, all of those things. He

2487
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 1: just has more of that, you know, than Prole does.

2488
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:35,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to just single out those two. Well,

2489
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, who are you thinking? I like Foster. Yeah,

2490
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:42,400
Speaker 1: the undrafted kid has flashed. He's flashed a lot, and

2491
02:04:42,520 --> 02:04:44,840
Speaker 1: he's got the NFL body to match. I mean, sixty three,

2492
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds runs like a deer. The knock on

2493
02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 1: him and why he wasn't drafted was lack of production.

2494
02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:53,840
Speaker 1: And the reason he couldn't get on the field was

2495
02:04:53,920 --> 02:04:57,360
Speaker 1: because Saban did not like his instincts, does not have

2496
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 1: natural football instincts, doesn't maybe read a coverage quite as

2497
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,440
Speaker 1: fast as somebody else. You tell him to go run

2498
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:08,280
Speaker 1: this route, perfect, no problem. But when you have a

2499
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 1: site adjust or you have an option route, that's when

2500
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:13,800
Speaker 1: he gets a little loss sometimes. So is there a

2501
02:05:13,880 --> 02:05:16,760
Speaker 1: way to carve out a niche role for him where

2502
02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:19,960
Speaker 1: he can just execute a B and C and not

2503
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:23,440
Speaker 1: have stuff open to interpretation. I don't know, because I

2504
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 1: don't know how coach Dabele's offense is gonna work. I mean,

2505
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:28,400
Speaker 1: they teach the concept to those guys, so they can

2506
02:05:28,480 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 1: line up anywhere on the field. They don't give a

2507
02:05:30,200 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 1: guy an X role, a Y role, a Z roll whatever.

2508
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:34,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know how he's going to be able

2509
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 1: to process all of that. But all I mean, he

2510
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 1: had a touchdown again today. He's making plays. He's making

2511
02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:45,680
Speaker 1: plays right now. So let's see when the pads go on.

2512
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:49,680
Speaker 1: But he's got the physical skills. Let's see if the

2513
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:51,800
Speaker 1: instincts can kick in, if they can find a role

2514
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:54,040
Speaker 1: for him that he can execute with consistency. Because if

2515
02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 1: he can, I think he's got a good shot he

2516
02:05:57,560 --> 02:05:59,560
Speaker 1: might knock one of those draft choices off the roster.

2517
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 1: On the practice squad. It's hard to beat a guy

2518
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:06,480
Speaker 1: who makes plays. Yeah, any defenders that got your attention,

2519
02:06:06,560 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 1: Chris through three weeks, Davis, Why it's ridiculous he's going

2520
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:11,920
Speaker 1: to be in the Pro Bowl this year? Really? Yeah, no,

2521
02:06:12,200 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 1: not even a question. I mean, he looks like a

2522
02:06:15,400 --> 02:06:18,280
Speaker 1: man amongst boys out there now. He's not going against

2523
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:22,280
Speaker 1: a prole like Pro bowlers at wide receiver on every play.

2524
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:26,880
Speaker 1: And granted, defense is when they're playing the same offense

2525
02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:28,720
Speaker 1: every day in practice, you know, you get at you

2526
02:06:28,760 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 1: get a beat on things, and you know what's coming,

2527
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 1: and you recognize the formation from the day before and

2528
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 1: you can jump on stuff. But Brownie, all of them

2529
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:38,680
Speaker 1: see that. Every guy over there see if he stands

2530
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 1: out in the midst of guys who are all getting

2531
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 1: a nod and knowing what's going on, that's says it

2532
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 1: just as much like you know, for the TV viewers,

2533
02:06:46,640 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 1: they can see this. I'm holding my hand at my

2534
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:52,440
Speaker 1: chest if if the other corners are there trays over

2535
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:56,520
Speaker 1: my head like that's the separation right now. Vonte Davis

2536
02:06:56,640 --> 02:06:58,600
Speaker 1: is trying to find himself, is what he's doing. Because

2537
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,880
Speaker 1: he's coming off the groin surgery. They've monitored his reps

2538
02:07:02,040 --> 02:07:05,040
Speaker 1: very carefully. He's not out there all the time. He's

2539
02:07:05,080 --> 02:07:07,720
Speaker 1: feeling his way right now. I think he'll be fine

2540
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:11,120
Speaker 1: once you get to September, but it's gonna be a

2541
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:13,920
Speaker 1: more of slow and steady wins the race kind of

2542
02:07:13,960 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 1: thing for him. I think he'll get there. He doesn't

2543
02:07:18,160 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 1: seem worried about it talking to him, but I think

2544
02:07:21,160 --> 02:07:24,080
Speaker 1: they want to take baby steps with him, not rush it.

2545
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 1: You know, coming off the growing surgery, there's there's no

2546
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 1: reason to do that. That's the thing too. I mean,

2547
02:07:28,920 --> 02:07:32,400
Speaker 1: for a guy like him, he's been on how many

2548
02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 1: different defenses, you know, I mean he knows once he

2549
02:07:35,800 --> 02:07:37,400
Speaker 1: learns the verbiage all he asked to go out and

2550
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:40,240
Speaker 1: play because he's seen all the right For me, he's

2551
02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:43,400
Speaker 1: a ten year veteran, So yeah, it's more importantly important

2552
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 1: for him to show up in one piece and fresh

2553
02:07:46,440 --> 02:07:49,200
Speaker 1: rather than week one yea, rather than rather than have

2554
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 1: him take every rep in May or June or even

2555
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:53,720
Speaker 1: July or August even for that matter, Chris, they've had

2556
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 1: ten OTA workouts, three mandatory mini camp sessions next week.

2557
02:07:57,920 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 1: What do you think is at the top of Sean

2558
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:03,360
Speaker 1: mcd's list to get done next week in those three practices? Well,

2559
02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:06,440
Speaker 1: I just if you asked him that question, you know

2560
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:11,000
Speaker 1: what he'd say, right, just get better every day, every days.

2561
02:08:11,000 --> 02:08:14,560
Speaker 1: Get the process. I think part of getting better at

2562
02:08:14,680 --> 02:08:18,520
Speaker 1: least next week will be tightening things up on offense,

2563
02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, just tightening up execution. You know, I think

2564
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:28,320
Speaker 1: there are elements there that they want cleaner, and I

2565
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:30,640
Speaker 1: think it's to be expected that, you know, this offense

2566
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:32,920
Speaker 1: for the large part of training camp is probably still

2567
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:35,440
Speaker 1: going to be behind the defense that's in its second

2568
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:37,880
Speaker 1: year with an offense that's in its first year with

2569
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 1: a three man quarterback competition going on at the same time,

2570
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 1: there's going to be some disconnect there, and I think

2571
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:50,440
Speaker 1: trying to capture as clean an effective an execution process

2572
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:52,760
Speaker 1: as they can is really the goal on that side

2573
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:55,400
Speaker 1: of the p I do get the sense from the

2574
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 1: guys who talk to us that it's it's it's becoming

2575
02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:01,560
Speaker 1: apparent that it's a fairly complex offense too. They want

2576
02:09:01,600 --> 02:09:03,480
Speaker 1: to have different pace to it, They want to do

2577
02:09:03,520 --> 02:09:06,200
Speaker 1: a lot of different things, different personnel groupings, so it's

2578
02:09:06,240 --> 02:09:08,160
Speaker 1: not like a basic offensive they can all pick up

2579
02:09:08,200 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: in a hurry. It seems like it's gonna be fairly complex, right, Yeah,

2580
02:09:10,400 --> 02:09:15,320
Speaker 1: And that gives me pause because you know, Murph, you

2581
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:18,960
Speaker 1: and I have seen how many offensive and defensive schemes

2582
02:09:19,000 --> 02:09:22,360
Speaker 1: come through the door here. It's gonna I mean, even

2583
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:26,840
Speaker 1: with a full training camp, a full preseason, it's gonna

2584
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:32,240
Speaker 1: take probably six games before it's close to humming. And

2585
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:35,280
Speaker 1: that's if your quarterback situation is ironed out and set.

2586
02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 1: It's just once you get up to regular season game speed,

2587
02:09:41,880 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 1: that execution that you thought was airtight in the preseason

2588
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:49,720
Speaker 1: can't quite make that jump right away. And maybe it

2589
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:53,040
Speaker 1: takes a month four games of executing it at that

2590
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 1: speed before you've adjusted. And if it is as complex

2591
02:09:57,120 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 1: as the guys say, you wonder how much they're gonna

2592
02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:03,720
Speaker 1: have to shut it down for a game week to

2593
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,000
Speaker 1: ensure that they get the execution they need so they

2594
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:09,280
Speaker 1: can be successful in the win column. But we've seen

2595
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 1: these offenses sometimes they really don't gain steam and traction

2596
02:10:13,600 --> 02:10:16,160
Speaker 1: until we're getting close to mid seasons sometimes, and that's

2597
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,280
Speaker 1: gonna make it tough. Knowing five of the first seven

2598
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 1: or on the road, Chris, what's coming up on the

2599
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:22,920
Speaker 1: website this weekend? What can we look for? Well, we

2600
02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:25,520
Speaker 1: just wrapped up OTAs and what we learned and all

2601
02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:28,360
Speaker 1: of that from week number three, so we've already got

2602
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:30,920
Speaker 1: that up there for you. And then coming up next week,

2603
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:33,920
Speaker 1: we've got some interesting features coming up on a couple

2604
02:10:33,960 --> 02:10:35,960
Speaker 1: of the players that you know fans are interested in,

2605
02:10:36,040 --> 02:10:39,280
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips being one of them. Did kind of a

2606
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 1: deep dive on what makes him tick, So there'll be

2607
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:43,880
Speaker 1: something to look for next week, probably middle of the

2608
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 1: week after a mandatory mini camp gets rolling and we're

2609
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:49,360
Speaker 1: taking a look at a wide receiver kind of overview

2610
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:54,680
Speaker 1: and we'll kind of dice that up, you know, a

2611
02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:56,560
Speaker 1: bunch of different ways to kind of see how things

2612
02:10:56,600 --> 02:10:59,520
Speaker 1: are shaken out there from top to bottom. And we're

2613
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 1: gonna take a look at, you know, a couple of

2614
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:03,240
Speaker 1: the running backs that are sitting behind Shady right now.

2615
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:04,880
Speaker 1: There hasn't been a lot of talk about Chris Ivory,

2616
02:11:04,920 --> 02:11:07,280
Speaker 1: hasn't been allow to talk about Travaris Cadet, who's a

2617
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:08,880
Speaker 1: player that I like a lot, liked him a lot

2618
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:10,960
Speaker 1: when he came in the door. I think he's very underrated.

2619
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:14,080
Speaker 1: And you want to talk about matching up skill sets

2620
02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:15,800
Speaker 1: with guys that are running second and third on the

2621
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:19,240
Speaker 1: depth chart, Cadet, in my mind, comes closest to McCoy.

2622
02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:22,200
Speaker 1: He's not McCoy, but in terms of overall skill set

2623
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:25,120
Speaker 1: and versatility, he comes the closest of the guys on

2624
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 1: the one thing I want to ask you about before

2625
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 1: you go, And you said you're gonna be doing a

2626
02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:34,320
Speaker 1: story on Harrison Phillips. We've spoken to Josh Allen, We've

2627
02:11:34,320 --> 02:11:37,120
Speaker 1: spoken to Harrison Phillips, to Tremaine Edmonds, we've spoken to

2628
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:43,040
Speaker 1: Wyatt Teller teller guys, and I have yet to bump

2629
02:11:43,120 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 1: into one of these young these rookies, draft picks or

2630
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:51,000
Speaker 1: otherwise that aren't pretty special guys. I mean, this is

2631
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,560
Speaker 1: a group that you can tell we're picked for far

2632
02:11:53,720 --> 02:11:55,760
Speaker 1: more than just their football abilities. I mean they come

2633
02:11:55,760 --> 02:11:58,960
Speaker 1: across their personalities, the way they carry themselves, there are

2634
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:04,400
Speaker 1: the way there are tick. I'm surprised a lot of teams.

2635
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how much emphasis other teams put on

2636
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,320
Speaker 1: their evaluation process, but there's no doubt when you look

2637
02:12:10,320 --> 02:12:12,360
Speaker 1: at this group, they all have that in common that

2638
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:15,480
Speaker 1: that's gotta be one of their strong the strong traits

2639
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:18,160
Speaker 1: that this club is looking to draft. That's what coach

2640
02:12:18,280 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 1: McDermott would file under the DNA column. Our kind of

2641
02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 1: DNA players. Guys that are grinders. Don't mind the grind.

2642
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:30,040
Speaker 1: These guys have their ducks in a row for the

2643
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:32,360
Speaker 1: most Yeah, they do it seems like off the field

2644
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:34,640
Speaker 1: and on the field they are they are buttoned up there.

2645
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:37,360
Speaker 1: It's like it's almost like one of the military academies.

2646
02:12:37,400 --> 02:12:39,680
Speaker 1: There's I mean not that there's discipline a lot, but

2647
02:12:39,800 --> 02:12:42,800
Speaker 1: the players are like they're like in it. They're like

2648
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:45,520
Speaker 1: long point all the time. Last year at this time

2649
02:12:45,680 --> 02:12:49,360
Speaker 1: I did a long form story on coach McDermott, and

2650
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:52,640
Speaker 1: you know what drives him, you know all of that stuff.

2651
02:12:52,680 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 1: When you know, talk to his brother, you know, he

2652
02:12:55,200 --> 02:12:59,560
Speaker 1: probably knows him better than anybody. And you know, with

2653
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:04,919
Speaker 1: what I'm putting together on Harrison Phillips, the parallels are frightening.

2654
02:13:05,680 --> 02:13:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think they're one hundred

2655
02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:13,920
Speaker 1: percent cut from the same clause, not just not just

2656
02:13:14,040 --> 02:13:16,800
Speaker 1: because they wrestled, but I do think a lot of

2657
02:13:16,880 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 1: their mindset and approach to the game is similar because

2658
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:24,000
Speaker 1: of what wrestling teaches you as a young person. Um

2659
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:27,600
Speaker 1: so yeah, it'll it'll be interesting. And you know, he

2660
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:31,200
Speaker 1: won a major award at Stanford, and I know it's

2661
02:13:31,240 --> 02:13:33,120
Speaker 1: one of the ones he's most proud of. I mean,

2662
02:13:33,160 --> 02:13:37,360
Speaker 1: he's a highly decorated college player. But the Jack Houston Award,

2663
02:13:37,880 --> 02:13:43,960
Speaker 1: which is awarded to the player by his teammates for aggressiveness, tenacity,

2664
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:49,280
Speaker 1: and performance on the field. And that's coming up midweek

2665
02:13:49,320 --> 02:13:52,120
Speaker 1: next week, probably Tuesday or Wednesday. Look for that. Chris. Thanks. Yep,

2666
02:13:52,240 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 1: you can see man Chris Brown Bills inside a Buffalo

2667
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:56,640
Speaker 1: Bills dot Com. Steve and I back with more one

2668
02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:59,040
Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo

2669
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:15,600
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. We love him Chris Brown on the show,

2670
02:14:15,600 --> 02:14:18,880
Speaker 1: don't we, Steve Yes. He brings a lot to the show.

2671
02:14:18,920 --> 02:14:21,360
Speaker 1: We we love when he comes on a different set

2672
02:14:21,400 --> 02:14:24,520
Speaker 1: of eyes, a trained set of eyes, knows what he's

2673
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:27,040
Speaker 1: looking at, what he's looking at. When we go out

2674
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 1: and watch a little practice, we have impressions. But you

2675
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:32,560
Speaker 1: get a guy like Brownie who knows his team as

2676
02:14:32,600 --> 02:14:34,720
Speaker 1: well as anybody knows what to look for. He has

2677
02:14:34,760 --> 02:14:38,520
Speaker 1: an opinion about everything about that roster and the players

2678
02:14:38,560 --> 02:14:41,040
Speaker 1: that you can ask him. I got an opinion about it,

2679
02:14:41,160 --> 02:14:45,040
Speaker 1: and that's crucial. And one more thing about Brownie's opinions.

2680
02:14:45,080 --> 02:14:47,040
Speaker 1: He's not looking to impress you with his opinions or

2681
02:14:47,440 --> 02:14:50,800
Speaker 1: but he's confident. Yeah, he's what I see. He's what

2682
02:14:50,880 --> 02:14:52,960
Speaker 1: I think secure in is. He don't have to explain it.

2683
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:56,000
Speaker 1: And you know, it's awesome. Love having him on. Thanks

2684
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:57,960
Speaker 1: to Chris Brown. We'll have him on again. I am

2685
02:14:58,000 --> 02:15:00,760
Speaker 1: certain about that time Now for NFL true or false?

2686
02:15:01,040 --> 02:15:03,000
Speaker 1: Before we get to this, we did we not run

2687
02:15:03,080 --> 02:15:05,640
Speaker 1: to her false yesterday? Is that why we're doing yesterday's

2688
02:15:05,640 --> 02:15:10,640
Speaker 1: two or false? Okay, okay, that's I get it now.

2689
02:15:11,120 --> 02:15:13,240
Speaker 1: True or false? Brought to you by Yancey's, Fancy New

2690
02:15:13,320 --> 02:15:16,360
Speaker 1: York's Artists and Cheese. Odell Beckham's return is the top

2691
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:19,600
Speaker 1: reason the Giants will make the playoffs. True false. I'm

2692
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:21,280
Speaker 1: going false to you. We gotta get through this quickly.

2693
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:25,560
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham to return. It's big. But if the Giants

2694
02:15:25,600 --> 02:15:27,400
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, they'll play better defense, They'll get a

2695
02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:29,720
Speaker 1: good year from Saquon Barkley, and Eli will play better.

2696
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 1: So I'm going false with it. Yeah, they can make

2697
02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:33,800
Speaker 1: the playoffs without him, and if they have him, they're

2698
02:15:34,080 --> 02:15:36,000
Speaker 1: they're not any more likely with or without him to

2699
02:15:36,080 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. True or false. The Chargers Los Angeles

2700
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:42,560
Speaker 1: Chargers need to pursue a reunion with tight end Antonio

2701
02:15:42,680 --> 02:15:46,120
Speaker 1: Gates need him False. I don't think so. No, he

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Speaker 1: was done four years ago. Are we sure we haven't

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Speaker 1: done these true falses before? We've done these, done these? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is old news. Oh we did these on March

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Speaker 1: thirty first. Are no May thirty first? Where are today's

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Speaker 1: true or false? Oh? They're in the rundown all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's my bad. We've done these, I know. No.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna do it, you know, what go to

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Speaker 1: a break? No, We're not going to break. I want

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Speaker 1: to wear it totally, totally off our game. NFL True

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Speaker 1: or false Brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

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Speaker 1: Artistan Cheese. True false. Not like the other true falses,

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Speaker 1: Yancey fancies bringing us these ones. These are the I

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Speaker 1: can't even find these come on. True or false. The

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Speaker 1: Eagles are the most talented team in the NFL. True false.

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Speaker 1: I say false, I say false. True or false. Patriots

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Speaker 1: had the best offseason in the NFL. The Patriots for

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Speaker 1: a false false. Of course, that's false. You're getting brain

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Speaker 1: wreck this offseason compared to other years. Go ahead, True

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Speaker 1: or false. The Cowboys should bring Dez Bryant back. I

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Speaker 1: say false. NFL True or false Brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy New York Sotus and Cheese. That is today's

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Speaker 1: That segment was an atrocity. We're coming back with more

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Speaker 1: attross these two. It is one good One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: What have we learned from today's show? Brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes and businesses

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Speaker 1: with the finess and security in home theater. They preferred

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Speaker 1: Alarm at Home Theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. We

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Speaker 1: had a J. McCarron with us in studio, the Bills quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We asked him, what does it mean when you're described

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Speaker 1: as being a good teammate. Here's what he said. We're

2733
02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:45,760
Speaker 1: in the business of, you know, a team. Uh, you know,

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02:17:45,879 --> 02:17:50,160
Speaker 1: every everybody has their individual position, but um, you know

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02:17:50,240 --> 02:17:53,400
Speaker 1: it takes a team to win. And and you know,

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Speaker 1: the team that are the I should say, the individuals

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02:17:57,240 --> 02:17:58,960
Speaker 1: that play together as a team are the ones that

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Speaker 1: end up winning the ultimate goal and that's the Super Bowl.

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02:18:01,959 --> 02:18:05,520
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I mean, I just try to treat

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Speaker 1: everybody the way I want to be treated and and

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02:18:08,600 --> 02:18:12,600
Speaker 1: be fair everybody. And you know, no when to tell him,

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Speaker 1: you know, however you need to speak to him, to

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02:18:15,800 --> 02:18:19,040
Speaker 1: tell him the truth about something or whether it's something

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02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:20,520
Speaker 1: we want to hear or don't want to hear. And

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02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:24,240
Speaker 1: I go through the same situations and I have my guys, um,

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02:18:24,520 --> 02:18:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, on this offense and do that to me.

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02:18:26,440 --> 02:18:29,040
Speaker 1: A J. McCarron talking about that also, Chris Brown just

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02:18:29,160 --> 02:18:31,720
Speaker 1: left us a moment ago, Chris Brown, Bills insider from

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02:18:31,760 --> 02:18:33,920
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot Com. He jumped in on the topic

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Speaker 1: of the day, first team reps for Josh Allen. Chris

2751
02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:41,800
Speaker 1: told us when he thought that might take place, he's behind.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's three weeks behind the two Vets, and

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Speaker 1: he is and I mean and in no way, in

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02:18:49,640 --> 02:18:53,800
Speaker 1: no way has he shown that he's lost his head swimming.

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02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:56,440
Speaker 1: Gable doesn't have to pull him out, read the play

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02:18:56,480 --> 02:18:58,280
Speaker 1: to him again and say run it again. It hasn't

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Speaker 1: been any of that. I mean, he's shown a very

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Speaker 1: very good acumen for picking up the scheme and executing

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Speaker 1: it out on the field. I just think he takes

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Speaker 1: a lot of the learning in stride rather easily, and

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Speaker 1: so I think there will come a point in time

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Speaker 1: where his command, which we hear Coach mcderreman talk about

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02:19:18,680 --> 02:19:22,360
Speaker 1: an awful lot, his command of this scheme will be

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Speaker 1: on par with the other two guys quarterbacks and first

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Speaker 1: team reps. The topic of the day that was our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll. Are the Bills taking the right approach with

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen? When should Josh Allen get his first teams

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Speaker 1: crackhead first team reps? And why? On Twitter hundreds of votes.

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Speaker 1: Forty two percent of you say preseason, that's what I think.

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Speaker 1: That's what Chris Brown said. Thirty nine percent said next

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Speaker 1: week's minicamp, three percent say wait till the regular season,

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Speaker 1: sixteen percent said something else. I'm all right with that, Steve, right, yeah, preseason.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking he'll try some with the preseason. He'll move

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Speaker 1: up the depth chart. I think just because of his

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02:19:58,879 --> 02:20:00,920
Speaker 1: physical abilities and when he gets caught up to the

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Speaker 1: offense and his understanding of it to where the other

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02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:06,760
Speaker 1: two guys are because he is three weeks behind, he

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02:20:06,879 --> 02:20:09,680
Speaker 1: will start taking rest because he'll be a he throws

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Speaker 1: the football better. That's that simple. Steve a good chance

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Speaker 1: at history. Tomorrow we might have our thirteenth triple crown

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Speaker 1: winner in horse racing. I think Justify is gonna win.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen tomorrow. It'll be historic. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it happened a couple of years ago, right with American Pharaoh.

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Speaker 1: But before that, it was what like thirty seven years

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02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:28,600
Speaker 1: between triple crown winners. Don't get used to this, folks,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen that all. Yeah, well, you gotta Justify

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Speaker 1: Hoffberg Bravaso, vino Rosso tenfold, Gronkowski as at twelve to one,

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Speaker 1: blended citizen, Noble, Indie, free drop Billy and restoring Hope.

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Speaker 1: Who's he gonna be? Justify as a four to five

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Speaker 1: decided favorite in this race, I might, if I can

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Speaker 1: make it over to OTV tomorrow, find some time to

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Speaker 1: invest a little bit on Pino Rosso, because I love

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Speaker 1: Todd Pletcher. The horse won the Wood Memorial in New

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Speaker 1: York this spring by three lengths. It's uh. It did

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Speaker 1: okay in the Derby. When to finish in the Derby?

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Speaker 1: Vino Rosso ninth in the Derby, keep an eye in

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Speaker 1: Vino Rosso if there's gonna be an upset, but it

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Speaker 1: would be an upset. Justify is clearly the best three

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Speaker 1: year old this year and the best in several years

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Speaker 1: the Derby. You know, the horse did show a little

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Speaker 1: bit of vulnerability in the Preak Mistakes or whatever. It

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Speaker 1: was a longer race. No, that's shorter than the Derby.

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Speaker 1: They miiling a quarter preaked this smile in three sixteen.

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Speaker 1: But the Derby race still sticks with me, in that

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Speaker 1: slop pulling away the way it did, meeting the challenge

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Speaker 1: of all those other horses, the twenty horses, and the

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Speaker 1: other thing that goes against Justify tomorrow is the one

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Speaker 1: post position starting it. One that's not good, not really,

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Speaker 1: but that horse is good enough to overcome that, good

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Speaker 1: enough to overcome most of this field. I think I

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Speaker 1: don't want to take off hard and a long race

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Speaker 1: like that, though, either to get out of the way

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Speaker 1: of all those horses coming to the pole. If a

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Speaker 1: mile and a half, you want to save it for

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Speaker 1: the end and have something to the tanks. So you're

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Speaker 1: not going to use that one pole. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get out fast because you'll waste your energy or two already. Though,

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Speaker 1: I do think just special this year, all right, I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: triple Crone's gonna be fine. We'll talk about it on Monday.

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Speaker 1: Vino Rosso, though, keep an eye on Vino Rosso. We

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Speaker 1: will talk about it on Monday. We will talk also

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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen, Bill's rookie quarterback first round draft pick,

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Speaker 1: will be in studio with us on Monday. Looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that. Also, Cornelius Bennett, former first round draft pick

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Speaker 1: in the league, one of the great all time Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills will join us talk about some of the top

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Speaker 1: trades in franchise history. All Right, Steve, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: I will you play golf at all An. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta hit some music festinast or I might do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got stuff to do. It's gonna be a great weekend. Man.

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Speaker 1: The weather on the weather get up turned un awesome.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be great. We will see you back here

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Speaker 1: on Monday. Cornelia spent at Josh Allen going to join

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Speaker 1: us on Monday. I want to thank our production assistants,

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Speaker 1: George Blast, Jeff Coultinet, Thomas Honalder, Kelly Rude, JJ Turto,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Cargis, and James Robold. Our producer Jay Harris. Have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend, everybody. We'll see you here Monday, twelve noon.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Life presented by Kalid to Health from One

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