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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Aaron Manke's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>iHeartRadio and Grimm and Mild.

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<v Speaker 2>Our world is full of the unexplainable, and if history

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<v Speaker 2>is an open book, all of these amazing tales are

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<v Speaker 2>right there on display, just waiting for us to explore.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Cabinet of Curiosities. What would you consider

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<v Speaker 2>to be a good legacy for all of human history?

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<v Speaker 2>People have wondered this. Is it an estate to leave

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<v Speaker 2>to your children, grandchildren and so on? Is it a

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<v Speaker 2>name that your descendants can.

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<v Speaker 1>Be proud of? Is it a statue or a monument?

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be a king or a head

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<v Speaker 1>of state to have this kind of thought. Death is certain,

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<v Speaker 1>so we all hope that some part of us can

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<v Speaker 1>live on, if not through our family or our work,

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<v Speaker 1>then through the ways in which we are remembered by

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<v Speaker 1>our communities. Or to quote the great Bruce Lee, the

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<v Speaker 1>key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering.

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<v Speaker 1>But when you achieve a position of great influence, this

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<v Speaker 1>question is practically decided for you. Whether you do good

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<v Speaker 1>or great evil, you will always appear on some list

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<v Speaker 1>of royalty or prime minister or generals. A title for

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<v Speaker 1>better or worse is a guarantee that you are an

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<v Speaker 1>exceptional person. If you go to Rome and you visit

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<v Speaker 1>the papal Basilica of Saint Paul, outside of the walls,

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<v Speaker 1>you will see a ring of mosaic portraits lining the walls.

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<v Speaker 1>Each of these shows, in order, the line of popes

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<v Speaker 1>leading back to the early four hundreds. It's an impressive

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<v Speaker 1>piece of work, but I would draw your attention to

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<v Speaker 1>one of these portraits. The pope between Benedict the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>and Benedict the seventh. He's known as Pope Donnis the Second,

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<v Speaker 1>and he reigned sometime in the nine seventies. And this was,

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<v Speaker 1>to put it mildly, a pretty chaotic time for papal history.

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<v Speaker 1>All throughout the Middle Ages, conflict within the Christian Faith

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<v Speaker 1>led to several so called anti popes, people who claimed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the true pontiff in defiance of the Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Catholic Church. And it appears that the reign of Pope

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<v Speaker 1>Donnis the Second was during the brief reign of the

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<v Speaker 1>anti Pope Bonifice the seventh, who claimed to be pope

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<v Speaker 1>for approximately a month in nine seventy four. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>funny thing about antipopes is that while none of them

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<v Speaker 1>were seen as legitimate, men like Bonifice the seventh, would

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<v Speaker 1>have a ripple effect on papal history. The next pope

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<v Speaker 1>who wanted to choose the name Boniface would go for

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<v Speaker 1>Bonifice the eighth rather than share a name with a

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<v Speaker 1>former anti pope. Pope Donnis the Second, however, was no antipope,

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<v Speaker 1>even if his reign was similarly brief. According to some records,

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<v Speaker 1>it lasted for only three months between August and October

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<v Speaker 1>of nine seventy four. He is remembered in papal histories

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<v Speaker 1>as an honorable man of great integrity. And if that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a generic, if maybe complementary, description of a pope,

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<v Speaker 1>well there's a reason for that. It was common knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that the roster of popes was flawed, but it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until nineteen forty seven that they finally conducted an audit

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<v Speaker 1>of the official papal list. It turned up several bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>errors and contradictions. For instance, Pope Anaclidus was listed as

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<v Speaker 1>two different people, a number of popes were absent from

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<v Speaker 1>the official count. And then there's Pope Donnis the Second,

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<v Speaker 1>Monsignor Angelo Murcadi, the Vatican Archivist, determined that Donnis the

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<v Speaker 1>Second never actually existed. Now, there was a Pope Donas

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<v Speaker 1>who held the title in the six seventies, but the

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<v Speaker 1>successor for the name appears to have been a clerical error.

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<v Speaker 1>His predecessor, Pope Benedict the sixth, was listed with the

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<v Speaker 1>title Dominus d Sutrie after his name in the year

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<v Speaker 1>nine seventy four. Early record keepers appeared to have mistaken

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<v Speaker 1>Dominus for another pope rather than an honorific title. The

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<v Speaker 1>mural at Saint Paul's was created in the eighteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>long after the hopes of the Middle Ages were deceased,

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<v Speaker 1>and thus it was perfectly normal for the artists to

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<v Speaker 1>imagine what someone looked like based on the existing records,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet the artwork outside of Saint Paul's remains. The

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<v Speaker 1>portrait of Pope Donnis the Second, entirely fictionalized, stands alongside

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<v Speaker 1>real men who lived at the same time. Due to

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<v Speaker 1>an honest mistake, an imaginary man was memorialized in his

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<v Speaker 1>own place of honor, like giving a tombstone to a typo.

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<v Speaker 1>And it really does beg the question for us if

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<v Speaker 1>someone who never existed can have such a robust legacy,

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<v Speaker 1>who's to say that ordinary people like you and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't and honestly, past a certain point of record keeping,

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<v Speaker 1>That's all history is stories we've agreed to tell each

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<v Speaker 1>other for so many centuries that they've practically become true,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least until someone who's curious enough bothers to

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<v Speaker 1>check your sources. Despite being a royal, Alexandra did not

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<v Speaker 1>have a glamorous upbringing. She came from modest beginnings but

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<v Speaker 1>would become a true storybook. Princess Alexander was born into

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<v Speaker 1>the Danish royal family in eighteen forty four. Her family

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a last name in the modern sense that

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<v Speaker 1>you and I would recognize. They were known as the

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<v Speaker 1>House of Slushwig Holstein Sunderberg Glucksburg, but a traditional last

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<v Speaker 1>name definitely would have made recording this episode easier. Her

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<v Speaker 1>parents were fairly low in the royal line of succession.

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<v Speaker 1>Her dad was the king's second cousin and her mom

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<v Speaker 1>was his niece, making them I guess double second cousins.

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<v Speaker 1>Today that might get some sideways glances, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>actually pretty mild incest. By nineteenth century royal family standards,

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<v Speaker 1>everything changed though, in eighteen forty eight, when the king

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<v Speaker 1>died and his son took the throne, the son had

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<v Speaker 1>no male heirs, and so a council was held to

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<v Speaker 1>determine the line of succession, and ultimately it was decided

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<v Speaker 1>that none other than Alexandra's father would become the new

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<v Speaker 1>Prince of Denmark. Now, surprisingly, this didn't come with much

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of wealth. Alexandra, her parents, and her

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<v Speaker 1>siblings all lived in a town home in Copenhagen. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a decent place to live by most standards, but

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<v Speaker 1>far from a palace. Heck, Alexandra lived in the attic

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<v Speaker 1>with her sister Dagmar, and both of the girls waited

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<v Speaker 1>tables at a local restaurant, which wasn't actually very easy

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<v Speaker 1>for Alexandra. She was partially deaf in one ear, which

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<v Speaker 1>made it difficult to hear the customer's orders. She also

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<v Speaker 1>had a scar on her neck from a childhood accident,

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<v Speaker 1>which she had to cover with a choker necklace. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they were working class people, they did receive

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<v Speaker 1>some perks as royals. The children had a tutor, a

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<v Speaker 1>kind man who would tell them stories and taught them

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<v Speaker 1>to read and write in English. This was important as

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<v Speaker 1>England dominated European politics at the time, with Queen Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>ruling since before Alexandra was born, and then in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three the king died and Alexandra's father took the throne.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra and Dagmar suddenly became prime targets for marriages to

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<v Speaker 1>other royal families. That same year, Alexandra's royal ties and

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<v Speaker 1>strong education brought her to the attention of none other

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<v Speaker 1>than Queen Victoria herself. She was looking for a bride

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<v Speaker 1>for her son, Prince Edward. The two were married that

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<v Speaker 1>same year. Alexandra was officially a Princess of Wales, the

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<v Speaker 1>traditional title given to the wife of the heir to

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<v Speaker 1>the English throne. A few years later, in eighteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 1>Dagmar married the Prince of Russia. They also had a

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<v Speaker 1>brother who became the King of Greece. Their family had

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<v Speaker 1>truly moved up in the world. Once in England, Alexandra

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<v Speaker 1>encountered a decadent society, far removed from her life as

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<v Speaker 1>a waitress. Edward and his friends loved to party, and

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<v Speaker 1>Edward had many affairs. Alexandra took all this in stride.

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<v Speaker 1>She focused on her home and soon their children. She

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<v Speaker 1>had six of them between eighteen six sixty four in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy one, almost one per year. This was incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>taxing on her body, and it led her to catching

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<v Speaker 1>a fever, which in turn resulted in her having a

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<v Speaker 1>permanent stiffness in her right leg. She limped from there

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<v Speaker 1>on out. With her limp, her next scar and partial deafness,

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<v Speaker 1>she became very self conscious. She continued to wear choker

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<v Speaker 1>necklaces and tried to have her dresses tailored to hide

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<v Speaker 1>the limp. She smoked cigarettes to deal with the stress

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<v Speaker 1>of being a princess, and this was uncommon for women

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, but she used a cigarette holder to

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<v Speaker 1>look more elegant. Before Alexandra realized what was happening, the

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<v Speaker 1>young women in England began to take up the same habit.

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<v Speaker 1>They also wore choker necklaces, and some of them even

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<v Speaker 1>wore mismatt shoes and used a cane to imitate her limp,

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<v Speaker 1>and at first she may have thought that they were

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<v Speaker 1>mocking her. Her husband wasn't that popular. Actually, he was

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<v Speaker 1>seen as a lazy playboy, so it would figure that

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<v Speaker 1>the public would come after Alexandra too. But in actuality.

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<v Speaker 1>When interviewed, many of the young women imitating Alexander's style

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<v Speaker 1>and limp admired her. She seemed like a kind and

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<v Speaker 1>down to earth leader compared to her husband. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a rare case of a disability giving rise to a

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<v Speaker 1>fashion trend. Edward became king after Victoria's death in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. His rule is generally overshadowed by his mother's

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<v Speaker 1>as well as by his sons. George the Fifth took

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<v Speaker 1>the throne in nineteen ten after Edward's death, and his

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<v Speaker 1>mother was always close by his side. Alexander herself is

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<v Speaker 1>often overshadowed by the more famous members of her family,

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<v Speaker 1>but her childhood tutor remained proud of the little girl

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<v Speaker 1>he helped crow into a real life princess. He recognized

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<v Speaker 1>the power of her story and her personal growth, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would know because he made his own mark on

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<v Speaker 1>history as a lover of classic tales. The man who

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<v Speaker 1>gave Us The Little Mermaid Hans Christian Anderson. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed today's guided tour through the Cabinet of Curios.

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