1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb, and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: named for me. Your favorite beards. And in the world 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: out there of bearded faces, which which one's called you 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: the most? You mean the wearer of it? No, I'm 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: just saying, like beards that you I mean. I guess 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: it's harder. How do you separate the wearer from the beard? 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: How do you separate the beard from the bearded? I 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm staring at our producer right now, Noel, 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: who has a wonderful beard. It's a good beard. It's 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: a friendly beard. It's it's a coron. That was an 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: awful pronunciation of very current. Um, it's a good it's 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: a solid beard. But you know one of my favorite 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: beerds of all time, a pretty gray Yes, this is 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: the biogere intelligence. Yes, he has a straight, straight up 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: wizard beard, a long beer that you look at it 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: and you're like, this is a man with with wisdom. 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: This is a man um of experience that I can 20 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: trust to help me live forever. Yeah, And you know 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: what I kind of had wondered. You know, I think 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: I made a comment before in another episode when we 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: were discussing some of his ideas about living forever um. 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: You know, there was this idea of, well, if he 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: shaved his beard, would he look twenty years old or 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: would he look a hundred and twenty. I don't know 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: there's that much facial hair going on, Yeah enough to 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: him my head. I don't know how old he is either, 29 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: so you can't even factor that into it. No, But 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: after sort of looking at some of this research, I 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: have a new view of Arportugray that I will discuss 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: later on in the podcast because I don't want to 33 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: give anything away. Okay, UM, it's interesting you sent this 34 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: um this infographic around the trustworthiness of beards that ranks 35 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: all these varying degrees of beards from from the very 36 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: trustworthy to be disastrous. And there's there's like a dozen 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: of them on here, and uh, on the far end 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: of the very trustworthy scape, we have like to the 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: two beards that are closest to the end. One basically 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: looks like Noel's beard and the other one looks like 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: Aubrey grays beer. If you go on the other end 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: of the spectrum, then you have to encounter a Hitler 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: mustache and a pencil fin mustache. Say that pencil fan 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: always says villain to me or John Water. I don't 45 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: think of John Waters as a villain. Well, I think 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: a benevolent villain. I think he would would term himself 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: at you know, possibly possibly he's a provocateur. But also 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: funny on this particular infographic is that the the Hitler 49 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: mustache and the John Waters mustache right below that is 50 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: a full werewolf. So I'm glad that hyperdricosis made the list. Yeah. Um, 51 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you one beerd There's so many great 52 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: beards out there, um, so many great beards from science 53 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: history alone, which I'm hoping we'll do a little gallery 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: to go with this online. Now I have to mention 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: before we launch into beer and we really look at 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: the science be find them. Um that I feel like, 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: in part we should owe this episode to your own 58 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: facial hair. Yes, oh the sideburns, burns, You've got nice 59 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: chops there. Yeah, well let's they go from the sideburn 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: level to the chocolate which I was I was looking 61 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: at where those rank on this particular trustworthiness of beards 62 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 1: and certainly the chops that the chops are a little 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: more in the neutral zone, whereas the sideburns are are 64 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: a little more towards the trustworthy side. So if I 65 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: can actually, you know, go buy anything that this infograph 66 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: has to say about the matter. Well, just as a 67 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: side note, you have a great photo gallery sideburns of science, 68 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: sideburns of science. See, I'm thinking we'll do one about 69 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: beards as well to go with this episode. One beard 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: that I that I am seeing a lot of recently 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: because I'm watching, um, the current season of Madman is 72 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: the actor who plays the character Stan j R. Ferguson 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: has this huge beard. I don't know if you're up 74 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: to that point. Yeah, And so illustrator yea, the illustrator 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: massive beard, and uh, I was looking up I found 76 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: an interview with him and he says that when he 77 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: after he came in, um, you know, ready to do 78 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: the show, grew out this beard that they wanted him 79 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: to have for this season. He said it was actually 80 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: a bit too much. It was like a cross between 81 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Johnson and Tom hankson Castaway, and they actually had 82 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: to trim it down to its to the state that 83 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: you see it in on that So so virile was 84 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: his beard. Yeah, I had to tame it back. You 85 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: know what's interesting about that, and we'll get into this, 86 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: is that as a character he he usually says some 87 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: pretty loudish things, like loudish like um, you know, he 88 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: says some inappropriate things, sexually charged, now clean shaven, super creepy. 89 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: The beard I actually think softens that a bit. Yeah, 90 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, because yeah, he's he's a 91 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: far more levable character with the beard. Well, also you 92 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: see a little bit more character development of him my 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: fields the show progresses, so you know him a little 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: better about it than me as the beard. But yeah, 95 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: like earlier on you're like, who is this this guy's 96 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: guy's kind of awful, and now you're like, this is 97 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: one of the better gentlemen in the office. Yeah, you're right, 98 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: this guy's got personality. Yeah, and he I guess it's 99 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: the only I can't think of any of other characters 100 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: that current that are currently on the show that have 101 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: a beard. So no, but there is a lot of 102 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: facial hair going on for sure. No, let's look back 103 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: here in the time machine at ancient Greece, where the 104 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: beard was big, right, It was a sign of virility, 105 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: and it was an advertisement that you were not a Unich. Yes, 106 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: because presumably or this was the thought actually that if 107 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: you were a Unich, you wouldn't have the ability, would 108 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: not have the hormones to produce that the massive glorious 109 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: beards on your wisdom. And certainly in olden days various 110 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: societies this was there were enough Unix around that this 111 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: was actually something to think about. There actually a fair 112 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: number of Unix plays, varying roles in society, sometimes very 113 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: important roles. Um. Which reminds me we do need to 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: do an episode on Unix. Was that because the history 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: of Unix and some of the science of Unix is 116 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: is really, um, really fascinating. Um. But yeah, yeah, go 117 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: back to the Greeks. The Greeks loved them, at least 118 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: until Alexander the Great came along and he said, actually, 119 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: we don't need beards. We need to shave these beards 120 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: off if we're going into combat, because somebody could grab 121 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: me by my beard and start slicing at my face exactly. 122 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: And I imagine that at some point too, if you 123 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: are in a situation where you don't have access to 124 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: clean water and so on and so forth, that that 125 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: little beard could get quite contestive. Yeah, and certainly we've 126 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: been shaving beards for a while. Um, I mean we 127 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: well before we were shaving beards, presumably we're you know, 128 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: there were situations where one would pluck out the facial hair, 129 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: especially if you if you weren't stay capable of growing 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: like a full beard anyway, maybe you just decided to 131 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: go clean cut on it, and you would be you 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: would have to to plug at the hairs or find 133 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: out some of their methods. But we have found archaeological 134 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: evidence dating back to one thousand BC of into dual 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: shaving their beards clearly with some sort of flint instruments, 136 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, the first razors if you will. Indeed, um, 137 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: it should not go unnoted that bearded ladies make appearances 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: throughout history, yes, right. Um. I wanted to point out 139 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: that some of this is due to something called hair sudism, 140 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: which is a variant of hypertrichosis, also known as the 141 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: werewolf syndrome, when there's an abnormal amount of hair growth 142 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: on the body. Uh. Though with hair sudism, it's usually 143 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: due to increased levels of androgens. Or male hormones. Now, 144 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: bearded ladies would show up in sideshow acts in the circus, right, 145 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: or freak shows as they were called. Most of the time, 146 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: those weren't actually ladies. They were just dudes to put 147 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: on a little with beards that put on a little 148 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: makeup and address. Yeah, but that's been going on since 149 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: Shakespeare's time, right, no ladies on the stage. Um. I 150 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: also want to point out the cultural significance of the 151 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: term beard, which is also slang for um, a person 152 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: who is a cover for a gay friend or a partner. Yes, 153 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: and apparently sometimes too, it would be a cover for 154 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: somebody who's having an affair in a nixed gender situation 155 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah. Yeah, although I would say that the 156 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: actually i've heard it more used as a way to 157 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: sort of negate someone's homosexuality. Public feel like that's the 158 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: usage that sticks with us more these days. Yeah, it's 159 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: sort of this idea that you could give this heteronorm 160 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: appearance of a couple knowing that one of them was 161 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 1: gay the other was not. Um, But I do I 162 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: think it's fascinating because the term, again, when you're talking 163 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: about heteronorms, you talk about masculinity. And in the instance 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: where there is a male who is gay who is 165 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: with a woman, she the beard gives him masculinity. I'm 166 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: not saying that she gives him real masculinity. I'm saying 167 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: that from society's perspective, she's imbuing him with this power. 168 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: But it always makes me anytime I hear of the 169 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: term beard used in those scenarios, it makes me think 170 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: of money. Python's the Life of Brian where there's a 171 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: scene where someone someone's going to be stoned to death 172 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: and punishment for some sort of infraction. And and only 173 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: the men are allowed to come and witness this, but 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: only the women are really interested in attending it. So 175 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: they're all buying these fake beards from a vendor outside 176 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: the stoning area, and uh, and they're all, you know, 177 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: there to participate. I love that bit because on so 178 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: many different levels, I think it's a commentary society is. 179 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: It's some wonderful commentary throwne in to what is still 180 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: a very silly sketch. But that's Python for you. All Right, Well, 181 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: let's talk a bit about the evolution of the beard 182 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: and this sort of powers I said that is imbued 183 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: by this mass official hair. So needless to say, the 184 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: beard grows on the face. And it's really interesting when 185 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: you start thinking about the face, what is the human face, right, 186 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Because certainly it is a bunch of skull meat. It 187 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: is uh, it's a place where we keep our eyes, 188 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: in our nose, in our mouth. So it's it's kind 189 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: of this uh, front loaded sensory array that allows us 190 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: to take in the sense world around us. But then 191 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: it is also something a bit more too, It is 192 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: also a communications array. Now, all this is complicated by 193 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: the fact that, of course we end up thinking of 194 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: our face as ourselves, right, like I am my face 195 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, or at least my face is 196 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: an expression of who I am. Or you're saying that 197 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: some people allow how they look to color their personality. Well, 198 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: people end up augmenting their face and to varying degrees. 199 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: And the varying degrees may include, um, growing a beard, 200 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: it may mean wearing makeup, It may mean piercings, it 201 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: may mean tattoos, it may mean cosmetic surgery. All of 202 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: these things are done because we see the faces an 203 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: expression of who we are. But then the but then 204 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: it's also tied in with the fact that the faces 205 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: a means of communicating. Um. Obviously, we make expressions. There 206 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: seven primary expressions and then various um micro expressions that 207 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: appear for just you know, fractions of a second and 208 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: some of the best, Yeah, that allow you to get 209 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: gains an insight into what's going on, what emotions are 210 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: we feeling, what emotions are recovering. And there's actually a 211 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight check study that found that facial 212 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: expressions alone can speak a thousand words. So we get 213 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: into this idea of the face is not just you 214 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: know who we are, but but a means of communicating 215 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: with other members of our society. And uh. And so 216 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: there was another study that I found that plays into 217 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: this sin. This is the two thousand and twelve study 218 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: from a team of U. C. L a biologist, and 219 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: they started thinking about the evolution of the human face 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: and the evolution of the primate face and and how 221 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: does facial diversity UM factor into all of this. So 222 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: they looked at a hundred and twenty nine different adult 223 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: male primates from Central and South America, and the study 224 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: included this great wheel that that graph that had all 225 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: these different to monkey faces on and they arranged uh, 226 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: pretty wildly there's you know, there there are some very 227 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: conservative looking monkey faces that it is just like, oh, 228 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: well that is that is a monkey. If you saw 229 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: a picture of you be like, well look at that 230 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: monkey there is. And then others are you know, like 231 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: crazy must red faced, mustachioed, you know, crazy eyebrow like 232 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: you know crazy monkey pictures. Yeah, like very like punk 233 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: rock monk monkeys. And so you would look at these 234 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: and if you look at these thinking, um, all right, 235 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: some of these monkeys are gonna be more solitary than others, 236 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: and some are gonna be a little more society driven, 237 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: a little more you know, social and prone to live 238 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: in in packs and small groups. Um. And so what 239 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: is the correlation between facial complexity uh and uh and 240 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: and social activity? As it turns out, the crazier the 241 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: face on the primates in the study, the more solitary 242 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: the monkey, whereas the planer faced monkeys were more likely 243 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: to live in in some sort of a close knit 244 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: society and in a group of some courts sort. And 245 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: so the theory here is that since our face is 246 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: the communications of race, since our face is a means 247 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: of communicating with other members of our species, the plane 248 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: or the faces, the better the communication system. It's in 249 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: a large community, Yeah, it's like, you know, this is 250 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: the poster that I'm going to use, or you know, 251 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: this is the billboard I'm going to use to communicate 252 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: with people, And the more graffiti I have on it, 253 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: the you know, I have drapes up on it and 254 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy stuff. It's it's getting in the 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: way of my ability to use that to communicate the clearest. 256 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: So the crazy faces they're standing out on their own 257 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: because they don't have to use this. But the planer 258 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: faced monkeys, they're using this as a communication system. And 259 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: it's like a like a satellite dish. If you want 260 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: to pick up a signal, you want to have it 261 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: cleaned off. You don't want to have a bunch of 262 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: brush on it and drying clothes and what have you. Yeah, 263 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: it makes total sense because if you are in a 264 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: large community and you've got to read each other's facial expressions, 265 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: than the plane or the face the easier to read. 266 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: But if you are just hanging out with one or 267 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: two people, not a big deal to put on as 268 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: much of the the makeup exactly nature's makeup as possible. Um. 269 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: I do think it's really interesting in the human context 270 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: because conservative estimates say that um communication is perceived by 271 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: up I think upboards of six of nonverbal cues. Okay, 272 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: so it would make sense that whatever is crossing your 273 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: face is really going to inform another person about how 274 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: you feel, and particularly when you blush. I just looked 275 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: at some research on blushing, and it turns out that 276 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: the way that our vision is constructed, the cones in 277 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: our eyes they think. Uh. Scientists and researchers think that 278 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: it was constructed in a way that we could really 279 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: see the variances in skin color and humans, so that 280 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: we could perceive things like blushing as a subtle way 281 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: of saying, oh this, you know, the person um across 282 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: from me feels ashamed about this or regretful for doing something. 283 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: And again this plays into this idea of nonverbal cues 284 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: letting us know what is truly going on between humans. 285 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: So what does allays have to with facial hair? Well, 286 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: if you dress up this canvas that you display your emotions, 287 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: you are certainly trying to say something with your beard, 288 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: or rather there are some subconscious things going on with 289 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: the beard. Well, to a certain extent, you're growing a mask. 290 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: You're growing this thing out of your face that covers 291 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: up you know, at least like half your face. It's 292 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: so it's it's it can be used as a means 293 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: of masking what you're actually feeling. Well, and I like 294 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: this idea of uh putting on a mask of power 295 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: to right. And if you look at the writings of 296 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: Barnaby J. Dixon, he's a postdoctoral researcher in the Evolution 297 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: and Ecology Research Center at the University of New South Wales. 298 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: He has a lot to say on this topic. Um. 299 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: He has a couple of different studies out right now. 300 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: And in fact, if you go to his website, he's 301 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: at Dixon with an S by the way, d I 302 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: X S O N. Does he himself of a beard. Yes, 303 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: if you go to his website, not only will you 304 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: see his glorious beard, which is um, you're not with 305 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: a mustache, by the way, you will also be able 306 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: to participate in a couple of online studies and see 307 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: some images of people with beards or men with beards 308 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: and then without beards, and go through the process of 309 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: rating them on their attractiveness. So let me get back 310 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: to Barnaby, though uh In the paper published in Behavioral 311 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: Ecology quote beards augment perceptions of men's age, social status, 312 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: and aggressiveness, but not attractiveness. Dixon and Paul L. Vacy 313 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: take a look at the power and structure of vis 314 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: via beard and an abstract. He says, or they say, 315 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Darwin positive that beards evolved in human ancestors via female 316 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: choice is a highly attractive masculine adornment. This is Darwin's theory. Yes, 317 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: this is they're saying. You know, Darwin put this out there, 318 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: who himself had a big beard later in life after 319 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: earlier in life having glorious beard. But they go on 320 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: to say that they think it's not necessarily um an 321 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: element of attractiveness. Here is more of power. And he 322 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: said that they show that women from two very different 323 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: ethnic groups a group of women um that are Europeans 324 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: from New Zealand and Polynesian women from Samoa, they don't 325 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: rate bearded faces as more attractive than clean shaven faces. 326 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: In fact, women from both of those groups judge bearded 327 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: faces to be older and ascribe them higher social status 328 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: than men who are clean shaven. Yeah. I mean, of course, 329 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: one of the things with all this, you have to 330 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: take into account all the human complexity of any of this. 331 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, if you're in a society where the beard 332 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: is more important and more established, and you know, that's 333 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna that's gonna weigh weigh in other things. Uh. But 334 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: but most of the the studies that we were looking 335 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: at here, they were we were seeing that the beard 336 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,239 Speaker 1: has a stronger role in intra sexual signaling than in 337 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: any kind of female mate preferences. In other words, guys, 338 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: you're growing that beard because you have something to say 339 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: to the other guys, not because or you know, you 340 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: may you may think otherwise, but ultimately your beard is 341 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: speaking to the other men. Well, and what's interesting about 342 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: the Polynesian women and the women from New Zealand is 343 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: that they then saw that men who were acting aggressively 344 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: with beards were deemed to be more aggressive than the 345 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: clean shaven brethren. So there's this idea again that it's 346 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: a sort of sort of suiting up a manning up 347 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: and again assuming a power roll. And if you look 348 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: at a paper by D. Caroline Blanchard which was published 349 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: in Behavioral Neuroscience, UM, they begin to see the animal 350 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: world being pulled in in the form of lions and 351 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: their means. Yeah, yeah, you know, this was an interesting 352 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: study that you came across. And the idea here, the 353 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: theory here is that all right, So why does the 354 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: lion have a main because it looks cool because it's 355 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: since the signal? Or does the lion have the main 356 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: because all of this extra hair protects some some some 357 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: very important parts of the neck and face. True, and 358 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: she says that lions with prominent means are like men 359 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: with beards, with the ideas that both began to grow 360 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: facial hair at puberty. Both the main and the beard 361 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: helped the single out gender in a crowd. And um, yes, 362 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: the beard, like the main, would give the wear a 363 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: more imposing silhouette and serve to blunt any attacks. Yeah. 364 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: Because one thing you have to to think about here too, 365 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: if this theory holds up, you have to think about 366 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: the way humans have it have evolved. Um, what are 367 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: natural weapons? Are natural weapons? Are fists? The first things 368 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: we're using to hurt each other, you know, aside from 369 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, the the odd bite and maybe you know, 370 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: you know, at some point someone realizes, hey, we can 371 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: kick things too, But for the most part, we our 372 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: hands have evolved to punch people in the face. I 373 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: did a blog in a video about this a while back, 374 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: and the idea is that when you make a fist, 375 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: and and certainly we are the only species that makes 376 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 1: fists and punches other members of our species, or if 377 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: you're lion nissa, maybe a wolf with your with your fist, 378 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: when you make a fist, it's uh, you know, certainly 379 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: you can hurt your hand still when you, you know, 380 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: make contact, but it's structured so that you're actually protecting 381 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: a lot of the more fragile parts of the hand, 382 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: the moans and muscles when when you ball up. So 383 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: the idea here is that that we have we have 384 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: evolved over time to use these as weapons. So in 385 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: the course of evolution to it makes a certain amount 386 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: of sense that we might also develop some sort of 387 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: protective feature against people punching us in the face. And 388 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: then later in early developments, clearly some of our first 389 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: weapons are going to be blunt instrument weapons as well, 390 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: before we eventually get to where we're creating spears and 391 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: swords and axes and you know, on up to our 392 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: modern weaponry. Okay, so a lion who is being attacked 393 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: the other lion who was attacking the line with a 394 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: magnificent main would get a mouthful of hair, right, and 395 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: it would be a little bit harder to get to 396 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: the throat region. So if you're talking about humans then 397 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: striking each other on the chin, then you've got the 398 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: beard that kind of buffers the impact of that, right right. 399 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: And of course they don't really go into a mention 400 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: in the study, but humans today are not above biting 401 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: into the foe, son or an ear. Yeah, so I 402 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: can only imagine that that would have played apart as well, indeed, 403 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: I'm sure. And naturally Blanchard brings up something called the 404 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: glass chin phenomenon. She says it's well known in boxing 405 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: and direct blows to the front and sides of the 406 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: neck as well as the area just under the nose, 407 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: can be particularly lethal, and that both are particular targets 408 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: of attack and unarmed combat techniques, and that this is 409 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: a protective feature of human beards, and that this is interesting. 410 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: The technical and competition rules of the International Amateur Boxing 411 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: Association prohibit beards and boxing matches. So I'm assuming that's 412 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: to level the playing field, right, I guess, because then 413 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: you know, Otherwise someone with a particularly great beard is 414 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: going to be that much more protective. Now, you don't 415 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: see those rules if I'm not mistaken in mixed martial arts, 416 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: because you do see bearded individuals partaking in combat there. 417 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: I guess I mainly thinking of I only know older dudes, 418 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: but like like Dan Severn, he had an awesome mustache. 419 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that wasn't really protecting the jaw and neck, 420 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 1: but but it seems like there are a few other 421 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: bearded guys that were thrown down. Well, no, I'm just 422 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: thinking about Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln of course describe the wrestler, 423 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: and he had the beard going on for sure, macho man, 424 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: Randy Savage, professional wrestler, but that he had a great beard, um, 425 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: you know. And it also ties in kind of interestingly 426 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: with some other studies we're looking at where the theory 427 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: was to that a large beard and also large eyebrows 428 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: contribute to the way that the face is perceived and 429 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: they make the jaw look stronger and more intimidating. Um 430 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: and uh. And when you couple that with a brow, 431 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: I can't help but think, like what you have. Peter Gallagher, 432 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: the actor who already had like amazing eyebrows. What if 433 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: he had ever grown a beard, because I did a 434 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: quick Google search and I never found an image of 435 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: him with a beard, So I think missed opportunity. He 436 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: could have been the ultimate alpha male. Well, but maybe 437 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,239 Speaker 1: he's doing that just for everybody's benefit. I mean, I 438 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: bet that every time he furrows his brow that the 439 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: earth trembles. Right, So if he were to grow a beard, 440 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: it could be catastrophe. It could be someone set him 441 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: down once said Peter, you have amazing eyebrows, and that 442 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: you must promise himust swear a blood oath and never 443 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: to grow a beard. All right, let's take a break 444 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: and when we get back, we are going to discuss 445 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: why Billy nays Is beard made him the success that 446 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: you are. All right, We're back, and uh, we said, 447 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Billy Mays, the infomercial superstar, 448 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: the Pitchman. Pitchman. Yeah, um, a huge beard, I mean, 449 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: glossy black beard, the fullest beard I think I've ever 450 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: seen in my life. Not wizardy really, not like long, 451 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: but very very thick and prominent. Right. Yeah, yeah, he 452 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: was a pitchman for a bunch of different household cleaners, 453 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: and I think that his beard contributed to his success. 454 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: And this is why A two thousand intense study in 455 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 1: the Journal of Marketing Communications found that men with beards 456 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: were deemed more credible than those who were clean shaven, 457 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: and the study showed participant pictures of men endorsing certain products. Now, 458 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: the products were kind of key to whether or not 459 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: there was any correlation of increased trust. So it turns 460 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: out that and then with beards had great We're seen 461 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: as having greater expertise and more trustworthy when they were 462 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: hawking things like cell phones and toothpaste. Okay, so they 463 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: were doing much better than the clean shaving guys in 464 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: that area, but not tidy Whitey's huh. Okay uh. Participants 465 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: preferred clean shaven. Then when it came to underwear, I 466 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: was thinking, perhaps it's subconscious the association of you know, 467 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: a lot of hair with underwear. And I know we're 468 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: getting into mercan territory here, but that might have something 469 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: to do with it. And I've never thought about this before, 470 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: about who do I prefer selling the underwear? U. I 471 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: guess I would prefer someone without a beard, um, but 472 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: but not so much. I mean, I guess it comes 473 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: down to if are you talking about an underwear model 474 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: or just an underwear pitchman, and is the pitchman wearing Um, 475 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: I think that they were talking about the pitchman as 476 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: the model. Okay, well I would, I guess, or maybe 477 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: that's a good question, that's a very good question. Well 478 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: maybe I'm just more attractive to beardless guys, because I 479 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 1: would I would want to be sold by underwear by 480 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, they beardless underwear model, but a man with 481 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: a beard who is selling the underwear. But on the 482 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: package there was a clean shaven man. And now remember 483 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: the why is the bearded man there at all? Is 484 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: he the other underwear models fathers in a department store. 485 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: He has a stack of underwear, and he is next 486 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: to the clean shaven pitchman. They're both trying to sell 487 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: you underwear. I don't know that. Now, that's just a 488 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: tough decision. I'm going to go with a clean shaven 489 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: because I still stand by that. I think it's something 490 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: subconscious about a lot of hair and underwear. And then 491 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: other regions you may have something there. Somebody needs to 492 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: do a study. Clearly, there are enough people researching beards 493 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: and what beards mean. There's got to be room out 494 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: there and some available funding. Let's get out of this 495 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: uncomfortable territory and into beards and how they can contribute 496 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: to one's health. Yes, now this is pretty awesome. This uh, 497 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: this is some relatively new uh info that we have 498 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: to work with here two thousand twelve study, UH French study. 499 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: And they had an interesting theory here. All right, so 500 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: we're growing these beards, and we've talked about how the beard, 501 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: of course may provide some amount of protection against punches 502 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: to the face, how the beard may mask our ability 503 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: to communicate via our our facial features with the members 504 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: of our species make us a little more aggressive than 505 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: we actually maybe, but then to what if, to what 506 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: degree could they possibly be shielding us from horrible U 507 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: V ray? So this study decided to test it out. 508 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: So what they what do they do? They went and 509 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: they bought three mannequin heads, put them out in the sun. 510 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: On one of them they just left it beardless. On 511 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: the other they gave it a short beard, you know, 512 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: mild beard. And then the other one they gave it 513 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: long beard, big, long, thick beard. To see how these 514 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: mannequins are affected by the u V rays based on 515 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: their level of facial hair, and they found that beards 516 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: block of uv UV rays. Yes, okay, so of course 517 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: that would reduce your exposure to those rays and decrease 518 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: your chances of having skin cancer. Yeah, so a huge 519 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: health benefit, right, Yeah, And certainly it brings me back 520 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: to the you know, Tom hankson Castaway and he's getting 521 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: baked by the sun and growing that beard was probably 522 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: his only real choice at the time, but he you know, 523 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: it worked out for the best because it probably gave 524 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: him just a leg a little leg up on avoiding 525 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: skin cancer. Yeah. So, I mean you can see how 526 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: this would be a protective cover throughout the ages, right. Yeah. 527 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: If you're you're making your your life on the beach 528 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: out in the sun, maybe you should grow a beard. 529 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: Maybe that would help because you think about it that 530 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: you think of like a picture you've seen of particularly 531 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of like snowboard borders and the like. You know, 532 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: they'll have have the big beard and then they'll have 533 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: the big goggles and then the hat and that's basically 534 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: yet all you have to do is worry about the nose. 535 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: And if you were to wear say a pair of 536 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, gradual Marx glasses or humpy hump glasses. On 537 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: top of that, you would have complete coverage and while 538 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: what image you would be projecting, Yeah, pretty faculty, especially 539 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: if you went with the humpy hump up nose and 540 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: you know glasses instead. You know, I was thinking about 541 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: the study in the mannequin heads, and I was thinking 542 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: about them in a field, and I immediately began to 543 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: imagine instead of body farms, we would have these mannequin 544 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: head farms, various growth patterns of facial hair on them, 545 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: and how disturbing that might be to walk up upon 546 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, you know, I've been I've been 547 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: watching the new Hannibal Electric TV show, which there are 548 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: things I really like about it. Um. I think that 549 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: the acting is great. I think the look of the 550 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: show is great. I'm I'm less into some of the 551 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: writing and the monster of the week scenario that they have. 552 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: So each episode seems to have to have a new 553 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: crazy invented serial killer. Yeah, they're gonna eventually start running 554 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: to start running out of ideas though, So I think 555 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: this could be one a killer who's who is inspired 556 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: by this survey. I mean, this study and finds the 557 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: heads of clean shaved, mildly bearded, and super bearded men 558 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: and then cut their heads off and leaves them out 559 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: in the field. Oh, like a researcher who was like, 560 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's not enough to see what you know, 561 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: chemically based substance would absorb in terms of the sun's 562 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: UV rays. I want the real thing. Yeah, I don't 563 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: want any polymer in the subject. And so therefore I'm 564 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: going to take this study to the you know, the 565 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: inst degree in terms of I was going to the integrity. Yeah. 566 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: And also not really, this would be a great mad 567 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: scientist too, because we're used to models of mad scientists 568 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: where they get into morally ambiguous territory. They or they 569 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: start using human test subjects. But but generally they're trying 570 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: to go for something big. But you know, this would 571 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: be a great one because it's this is some low 572 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: hanging fruit. There's really no reason to go cutting the 573 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: heads off of people for it. But hey, they're mad, 574 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: that's what they do. Yeah. And if you for some reason, 575 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: if maybe you skipped ahead in the podcast and you 576 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: just got to this part doing that, why are you 577 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: listening to podcasts that way? That's not you're not going 578 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: to get a full spectrum there of information. Uh but yeah, 579 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: this this is just an a marriage imaginary circumstance here. Yeah, 580 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: but nobody is cutting off heads to really see what 581 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: the UV absorption example is. But if you if you 582 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: look up any of the articles about this study, you 583 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: do get to see a picture of these three mannequin 584 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: heads with their beards out in the middle of the 585 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: sunny field, and it's, uh, it's a little creepy. Alright. Well, 586 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: researchers barn and B. J. Dickson, our friend that we 587 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: mentioned before, and Robert C. Brooks photographed ten men at 588 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: four stages of beard growth. We're talking about clean shaven, 589 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: five day light stubble, ten day heavy stubble, and then 590 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: fully bearded. Okay. Then they took three hundred and fifty 591 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: one women and one hundred and seventy seven men, had 592 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: them view photos and rate each face for attractiveness, masculinity, health, 593 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: and parenting ability. Here's the deal. Women ranked heavily stubbled 594 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: faces as the most attractive. Really, so that just that 595 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: just that level of I'm sort of growing a beard. 596 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: I think they think it's really sexy, but they don't 597 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: know how itchy it actually is. I think maybe it's 598 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: where it's it's full enough, not quite a full grown beard, 599 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: but uh, grown out enough where it starts to soften. 600 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess because that didn't that also, yeah, because 601 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: also isn't like really scratchy. It's like a burliopath. It's 602 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: the worst. It seems like it's bad for everyone. It's 603 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: gonna scratch the woman's face and then the man is 604 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: itching like crazy and thinking, why am I trying to 605 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: grow a beard again? This is why I shaved every 606 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: couple of days, although I'm sure for women there there 607 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: are some exfoliation benefits. Um. Okay, So participants said that 608 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: the clean shaven men the participants meaning the men and 609 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: the women, thought the clean shoven men looked about as 610 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: healthy and attractive as those with a full beard, but 611 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: they raided the bearded men higher for perceived parenting skills. 612 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: That was fascinating. Light stubble got the shaft, like, yeah, 613 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: just in general, so if you've got some white stubble, um, 614 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: you got the short of the step. Here. When I 615 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: say light stubble, that's that five day growth not quite 616 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: there kind of spotty. Yeah, uh yeah, low scores exactly 617 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: like are you hungover? Are you what are you doing here? 618 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: Is there your homeless Well, although homeless beards can grow 619 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: to a great volume. So anyway, those are the results 620 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: of that particular study. Interesting. Um, yeah, And it's one 621 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: of those things where it gets so complicated when you 622 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: start thinking of beards, as you know, from from a 623 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: purely biological standpoint, and then from a cultural standpoint, and 624 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: then when we factor other things on top of it, 625 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: because sometimes people will grow a beard. Is again part 626 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: of that idea that I am changing or I want 627 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: to change who I am, and I'm going to make 628 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: an outward show of this, uh and somehow tell the 629 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: world that I'm doing something, you know, like because somebody 630 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: will go through uh, you know, like a bad breakup 631 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: and then maybe they'll shave their head or they'll grow 632 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: out of beard, you know that that kind of thing. Um. So, 633 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 1: so it gets complicated with humans. Well, it's just Sampson 634 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: And although right didn't right when when he was clean shaven, 635 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: it was gone. Well then that goes into some very 636 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: old ideas. I was looking. I was reading in the 637 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: Brewer's Dictionary phrase and fable about the beards, and um, 638 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, various cultures, there are all sorts of sayings 639 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: about like you know, if you take grab somebody about 640 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: a beard, it's like the ultimate insult. And it certainly 641 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: if you if you cut someone's beard, then it's just 642 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: the just an enormous upfront in in varying beard heavy cultures. Yeah, alright, 643 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: So just as as a little mental abstract here, think 644 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: about Zach galifin Nakis if he were to shave his beard, 645 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: how would you perceive some of his characters who have 646 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: been childlike? Uh, would get into creepy territory? Or is it? 647 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, does the beard kind of helped him negate 648 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: some of the weirdness of those characters. I mean, it's 649 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: such a part of his look. It's it's I don't 650 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: know that I've ever seen a picture of him without it. 651 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking that too, Yeah, but but I think 652 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: maybe it does. It does contribute to the act um 653 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: fear to shave his beard off. I don't know how 654 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: I would take it. I mean, also some you know, 655 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: some faces just work better with a beard. I think 656 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: that's it goes without saying true. Um, this is one 657 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: of the little tidbit that I found. I thought was 658 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: really interesting, and it is that some men who grow 659 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: out a beard or a mustache are surprised that their 660 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: facial hair is ginger colored. Oh, they're surprised if they're 661 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: not red headed, right, And that is because facial hair 662 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: allows expression of the normally recessive jeans for red hair 663 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: and very red skin. Interesting son pop up in those 664 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: areas of your face, but not on your head. Well, 665 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: and then of course it's a lot of times it 666 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: will grow out gray when you don't. Isn't really doing that, 667 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: and we'll reveal your secrets. And then the rare individual 668 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: will have the blonde beard, which I've always found kind 669 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: of fascinating because in a in a way it's almost invisible. 670 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: At first, I think of that as a very California beard. Yeah, 671 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: there was a dude in my high school. I don't 672 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: remember his name, but this is a high school, and 673 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: he had like a full blonde beard. It was very impressive, 674 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah. Alright, so here's some interesting research for 675 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: you guys to ponder out there. But just to be clear, 676 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: this is not a free pass to grow a Gangs 677 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: of New York style handlebar mustache. Well, you know, that's 678 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna be pretty treby in some areas. I mean, 679 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: walk into Brooklyn with that and gets the right in. 680 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like that's best left to Daniel day Lewis. Well, oh, 681 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: you're right some people. I you know, I'm sorry, I 682 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: should probably not uh tell someone not to do that. Well, 683 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: the thing about just a very specific choice. Well, the 684 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: mustache isn't is an interesting bit of facial hair because 685 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: it really almost seems like there's you got to take 686 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 1: it out a case by case situation. There are people 687 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: who grow a mustache and you're like, that was absolutely 688 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: the right call. Or they shave off their mustache and 689 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: you're like, that is wrong. Grow it back, um, Jimmy Buffett, 690 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: because you just don't look right without it. Um. So yeah, 691 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,959 Speaker 1: it's really gotta be a case by case It's true. 692 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's just my association with Bill the Butcher, Like 693 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: if I see that mustache, I think there's a bit 694 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: of a menace to it. Yeah, it's a menacing mustache 695 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: for sure. Um alright, so there you go. Um. I 696 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: can't help but think though about some animals with facial hair, 697 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: and I was thinking that Grumpy Cat would totally sport 698 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: whole Cogan. You think the whole Cogan beard, which which mustache? 699 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: The mustache he for a while and maybe he still 700 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: has this. He had the blonde mustache, and then but 701 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: then he had stubble, a stubble beard that was dyed black. 702 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: So it was it was, you know, the combo diabolical. Well, 703 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: there's also an older image I found of him once 704 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: where he in this when he had a different moniker. 705 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: I think, but um, he had he was not waxing 706 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 1: his chest and he but he did have a heart 707 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: shaved into this chest. So hairy chest except for the 708 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: shape of a That is the ultimate act of hyper 709 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: masculinity right there, right like I have such a hairy 710 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: chest that I can now actually assume some femininity here 711 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: in my expression of emotions. He a heart? Yeah, well, 712 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: there are a lot of There are a lot of 713 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: interesting manscaping choices in the world of pro wrestling. I 714 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: tell you a beard we didn't mention. Have you seen 715 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: the Hunger Games movie? I have you know the West 716 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: Bentley beard that he has in that with all the 717 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 1: flames and that one is that one's one to think about. 718 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where I stand on that. I guess 719 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: it's the future. So all right, well, there you go. 720 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: There's a little insight into the science of the beard. Uh. 721 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: There are a lot of cool studies out there, and 722 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: we highlighted some of the more interesting ones we think. 723 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: But if you've come across anything, let us know. There's 724 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: always new science brewing, uh, growing to the surface and uh. 725 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: And also we'd love to hear your thoughts about beards 726 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: in your life, your own beard, if you have one, 727 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: how do you feel it alters the value proposition of 728 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: of you the human? How does it alter your interactions 729 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: with those around you? Or if you are you're not bearded, 730 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: or even if you are, then then then how do 731 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: you take in the beards in your life or in 732 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 1: popular media or in fiction? What are some of the 733 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: best beards? What are some of the worst. 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