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Speaker 1: Podcast starts. Now, what's up everyone around the world. This

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Speaker 1: is Stradio Lab. It is a cloudy Is it cloudy? Oh?

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Speaker 1: It's cloudy as hell. I mean maybe it's my LA

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Speaker 1: sensibility where you know, I see a little cloud now

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Speaker 1: argue it is cloudy outside.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of Spring?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad you asked least favorite season by

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Speaker 1: far flop loser. I think I think spring is a

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Speaker 1: is a prison sentence. Yeah, yeah, I think it's it's

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Speaker 1: edging in the worst way. I think you never feel

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Speaker 1: joy until May. And I think, you know, I remember

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Speaker 1: just looking at the leaves and being like, go faster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here's my opinion. You know, I, you and I.

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Speaker 2: One of the things we have in commedist that we're

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Speaker 2: both summer girls. To quote Danielle him and I think,

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Speaker 2: and we come alive in the summer. We are both beachy,

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Speaker 2: we both love a pool, we both love reading by

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Speaker 2: a body of water, and of course that part of

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Speaker 2: me is still there.

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Speaker 1: You're getting choked up.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting choked up just thinking about it. I more

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Speaker 2: and more the summer peak tourist season is like peaking

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Speaker 2: more than it ever has, to the point where I'm

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Speaker 2: afraid to do anything summary in the actual months of

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Speaker 2: July and August, and that has actually forced me to

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Speaker 2: start valuing late spring and early fall more. I know

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Speaker 2: exactly what you mean, and it is confusing to me

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Speaker 2: because when I now think of July and August, normally

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Speaker 2: my favorite, I'm feeling a sense of entrapment. I am

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Speaker 2: feeling a sense of uh, does you know, sort of

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Speaker 2: like hope deferred, Like it will never be what it

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Speaker 2: once was, and I have to start romanticizing late May,

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Speaker 2: early June, and in fact mid September.

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Speaker 1: I say yes to mid September. Yeah, late May, early June.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be chilly, Like it's just like you can't

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Speaker 1: be at a beach and be comfortable. So I literally think, so, yes,

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Speaker 1: sometimes you'll get like the off day. But like I

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Speaker 1: have tried for years to be like summer starts June first,

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Speaker 1: and I have been burned by being cold so many

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Speaker 1: times because it doesn't start June first. It starts like

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Speaker 1: June thirtieth, which is my birthday.

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Speaker 2: But don't you find that when you are planning something

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Speaker 2: for peak summer months. I don't know. Maybe I just

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Speaker 2: need to like be more bold and be like, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I am going to be one of the

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Speaker 2: bodies that is crowding Fire Island.

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Speaker 1: George, you cannot be afraid to take up space. Really,

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Speaker 1: I think you really have to lean into I hear you.

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Speaker 1: You're just your desire to be alt is like, you know,

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Speaker 1: pushing over your desire to have fun and be in

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Speaker 1: a nice place. But you just have to you know,

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Speaker 1: my theory on Mondays? What is it that even if

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Speaker 1: and you can't break free from the Monday feeling.

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Speaker 2: And you're saying, even if I'm on vacation in May,

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Speaker 2: it's still May, and I can't break free of the

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Speaker 2: mail literally. Okay, so you're sort of following a more

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Speaker 2: literal approach, a more formalist It's like May is May,

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Speaker 2: July is Friday. Men are men, women are women.

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Speaker 1: You know that's not what I'm saying, George. You know

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Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. July is Friday. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: you have to be like, well, it's Friday, I'm going

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Speaker 2: You know. What I'm bumping up against is like, there

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Speaker 2: are only so many months, and it really saddens me

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Speaker 2: that we'll never get new ones. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm not getting what I want out of the existing months,

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Speaker 2: and and you and it should. You would think in

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Speaker 2: the world we're living in, with so much innovation in

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Speaker 2: the fields of science, technology, et cetera, you could invent

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Speaker 2: a new month that is perfect and that it's both

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Speaker 1: George, do you think it exists?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 1: It's international travel?

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Speaker 2: Oh you're saying, okay, go to Australia.

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Speaker 1: I'm literally saying, go to Australia, go to South America,

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Speaker 1: This was what I was starting to feel in New York,

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Speaker 1: my life was starting to be problematic, right. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, wait, wait, what if I

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Speaker 1: still I have the solution all played out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's uh, you got to spending money? Well okay,

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Speaker 2: so classically you know you want something, what's the solution

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Speaker 1: Quite literally? All right?

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Speaker 2: Should we bring out I guess.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do the honors?

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Speaker 2: Okay. We are so excited to have him on. You know,

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Speaker 2: we haven't had a musician on in so long. What

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Speaker 2: was the last one we had on?

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Speaker 1: You can't ask me.

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Speaker 2: I can't even remember.

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Speaker 1: Have we ever had one on?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, the first musician we've ever met, Liam Bensby.

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Speaker 3: Hello, how's it going. It's great. I'm so happy to

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, we are so happy to have you.

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Speaker 2: How is What do you think about the months?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, while I was listening, I was thinking about, Uh,

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Speaker 3: there was like one year where I insisted on going

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Speaker 3: very like I have an eating disorder, I need to

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Speaker 3: like bike here every single day, or like I it

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Speaker 3: I was dealing with something. Yeah, so I haven't done

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I almost think the disappointment of the first

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Speaker 2: It's like it humbles you and then you can enjoy summer.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like an initiation richly, where like the first

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Speaker 2: this is what you've been waiting, this is what we've

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Speaker 2: been looking forward to, and then the second time you go,

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Speaker 1: You know what I did last year that was a

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Speaker 1: this now, is I did all my little trips in June.

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Speaker 1: From June first to June thirtyth I was doing little

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Speaker 3: Are you the type of person that has something planned

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Speaker 1: I revel in the nothing of vacation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's me too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually really stressful to me because now all

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Speaker 1: the trips I've ever gone on have been like to

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Speaker 1: Fire Island, Oh my.

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Speaker 2: God, we're being interrupted. I said, I did not want.

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Speaker 1: This to happen. Thank you. Oh wow, this is the

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Speaker 1: best day of my life.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god to have blue bottle coffee.

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Speaker 1: You. Oh my gosh, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. Cheers you guys.

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Speaker 1: Cheers. Seriously, you guys.

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Speaker 3: Putting the iced coffee in the paper cup is is

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Speaker 2: I actually want to know what you think about, because

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Speaker 2: this is something I've noticed more and more and I

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Speaker 2: can't decide if I find it almost cheek, there is

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Speaker 2: I find it to be absolutely morally abhorrent, because that

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like a school uniform. Yeah, yeah, like

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Speaker 2: And then sometimes they'll put a straw inside the sippy cup.

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Speaker 1: don't think these cups were made for this, and I

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm noticing a pattern I think today we'll

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Speaker 2: There should be no innovation. If someone you know goes

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Speaker 2: on vacation in May, or if someone puts ice coffee

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Speaker 2: one and you are saying, thank god you are well funded,

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Speaker 2: because I need you here today.

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Speaker 1: I need you hear asap. I think experimentation can happen,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think every coffee place should have a

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Speaker 2: But isn't sort of punk rock DIY culture kind of

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Literally no, it's not.

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Speaker 3: What's the most punk month?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Whoa fuck? Wow?

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Speaker 2: All right? What is the most punk month?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: I think my brain jumps to a colder month, but

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Speaker 1: I do think like October has Halloween, of course, and

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Speaker 1: destroyers like Avril Levine being punk, Well, I think she's valid.

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Speaker 2: Do you think.

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Speaker 3: Avrilvin is valid as a punk yeah? Or valid in general?

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Speaker 3: I mean I was. I was a big head back

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Speaker 1: That's so cool.

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Speaker 2: as a young gay kid, loved Avril Levine, but it

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Speaker 2: to love Avri Levine, so too, it was not it

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Speaker 1: It's like who's conservative now?

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Speaker 2: Did you feel like you could openly love ever Levine?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because I felt like I was young enough it

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Speaker 3: was like Avril Lavine, Well, it was okay for me

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Speaker 3: to do that because I was also like a huge

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Speaker 3: So I had that kind of like tipping the scale

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Speaker 2: To you have every old thing, every real thing you like.

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Speaker 2: You collect Avrilavine coins and you can spend on Aril

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Speaker 2: fans exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: You do need to have a pillar of genuine cool

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Speaker 2: There was literally a hierarchy of cool and I just

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Speaker 2: Are you plugged into youth culture?

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Speaker 2: I mean I've said this forever.

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Speaker 2: You went to a year from New York, right, so you

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Speaker 3: I know it's scandalous.

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Speaker 3: No, but I would go. I like learned a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do you know it's funny that that's just like true,

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Speaker 2: Did you specifically want to be in a non New

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Speaker 3: My cool friends. I was doing rebelling against this.

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Speaker 2: Much like the idea that Dave Matthew's band is cool.

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Speaker 2: There's something about being a New York kid. I've noticed

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Speaker 3: No, totally did feel like a culture shock. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would like I had like a mini

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Speaker 2: So many songs that what was what was on the roster,

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Speaker 2: You want to like promote stuff now so that we

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Speaker 3: Whatever whatever you think I can do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I put out a record in September called and

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Speaker 2: You know, have you listened to the Sabrina Carpenter cover?

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Speaker 3: I covered Sabrina, which I met Sabrina too, which was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's note you guys, please donate, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I can hear the beeping of the hospital right now.

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Speaker 3: No, but I remember she was He did a really

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Speaker 1: He's like, so you've never heard it. She's like, so

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Speaker 3: And then I was like guards and then I pulled

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Speaker 3: I was like it sounds like the Doobie Brothers to me,

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Speaker 1: Cool.

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Speaker 3: She's really She's really cool.

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Speaker 3: I I like the pop girls. I wanna I love

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Speaker 3: I love who I consider like. I think Charlie's great,

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Speaker 3: like I think that there's like a freak factor drought

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough because the Charlie did to an extent,

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, have you heard the new Selena Gomez song that's.

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Speaker 3: Like Charlie song. Yeah she wrote it, but it's like

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Speaker 1: of it and you're like, no, this is so fun.

446
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Speaker 1: Like it's just like you know, text being like what

447
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Speaker 1: am I doing? I'm should I still be doing? Brat?

448
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Speaker 1: Is this embarrassing?

449
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Speaker 3: Really?

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah? And it was like I was like, this is great,

451
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Speaker 1: that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

452
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Speaker 2: Catherine was saying she was like, it's good that the

453
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Speaker 2: coolest person is is a millennial. Like that's like, oh wait,

454
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like, oh and for

455
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Speaker 2: now at least we have we have that totally.

456
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Speaker 1: That's a really good point.

457
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it.

458
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Speaker 1: First segment.

459
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Speaker 2: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

460
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Speaker 2: we ask you a series of rapid fire questions to

461
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Speaker 2: gauge your familiarity with incomplicity and straight culture. You have

462
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 2: to choose one thing or another thing you have to

463
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: go with your gut and the one rule is you

464
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Speaker 2: can't ask any follow up questions about how the game works,

465
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Speaker 2: and if you do, it will be so.

466
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Speaker 3: Angry with you. I'm gonna try my best, good George, you.

467
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Speaker 2: Go first, though, speaking out or chasing clout, chasing clout,

468
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Speaker 2: sloppy seconds or yester years yester years, subway delays or

469
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Speaker 2: birthday malays, subway delays.

470
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Speaker 1: Living your truth or living in Duluth.

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Speaker 3: Uh, living in Duluth.

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Speaker 2: St him or my bestie Sium.

473
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Speaker 1: My bestI Sium for sure mind similar coping mechanisms or

474
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Speaker 1: hoping for orgasisms, hoping for orgasisms definitely.

475
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Speaker 2: Breaking up Monopoly power or waking up aboard the Mayflower.

476
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Speaker 3: Wow, breaking up Monopoly.

477
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's try at Coachella Wow. Okay. We rank everyone's

478
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Speaker 2: performance on the scale of zero to one thousand Doves

479
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Speaker 2: of Grass, but now we to zero to one thousand

480
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Speaker 2: Blades of Grass.

481
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Speaker 3: Okay.

482
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's catching on yet. I

483
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Speaker 2: guess we'll see no.

484
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Speaker 1: But I like that we're growing and changing.

485
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Speaker 2: It's very iconic to choose the single least discussed song

486
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Speaker 2: on the album Blades of Grass all love to make

487
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Speaker 2: the name of our our segment.

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Speaker 1: That's that's really well, yes, what else would we do? Okay,

489
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Speaker 1: zombie boys? Yo.

490
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Speaker 2: I mean there is something about zero one thousand doves

491
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Speaker 2: that really rolled off the tug. But I'm getting used

492
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Speaker 2: to blades of grass. And I also like the idea

493
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Speaker 2: that we would give someone a gift of here you

494
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Speaker 2: seven hundred blades of grass.

495
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some thousand shadows of Yeah, let's.

496
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Speaker 2: Do for this one. Let's do zero to one thousand

497
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Speaker 2: shadows of a man.

498
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and say seven.

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Speaker 3: Shadows of the can Congratulations, okay, And I can't ask why. Okay, Well,

500
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Speaker 3: we bask.

501
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Speaker 2: I thought you did a great job. We rank it

502
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Speaker 2: based on performance.

503
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Speaker 1: It's basically a performance.

504
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Speaker 2: Based I would say, you were so confident and you

505
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Speaker 2: were so like chill about it, and it was like

506
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Speaker 2: you had done it before. I guess I would say

507
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Speaker 2: it was almost like you were chill dambing us in

508
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Speaker 2: the sense that you were like not impressed with and

509
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Speaker 2: yeah you were like okay, yeah, it was sort of

510
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Speaker 2: like you were like, all right, it went too quick. Yeah.

511
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Speaker 2: I think you know, sometimes we appreciate a little a

512
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Speaker 2: little like.

513
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Speaker 3: You know, I've been I'm in the practice or in

514
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Speaker 3: the in the occupation of tokenizing myself as gay guys

515
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: surrounded by straight band boys. So you know, I have

516
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Speaker 3: to I have to be the chill do I see?

517
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Speaker 1: That must be.

518
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Speaker 3: Hard, you know, yeah, yeah, what is your what is.

519
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Speaker 2: It is difficult? What is your strategy for being the

520
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: only gay guy in the room?

521
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Speaker 3: Sometimes, well, you I feel like, uh, actually, most recently,

522
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: on this tour that I did in Europe, I was

523
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: touring with this band of straight guys and they were

524
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Speaker 3: all toring together, but I was toying by myself. So

525
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: I truly would not have uttered a word to a

526
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Speaker 3: single person on my travel day to arrive at the venue,

527
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Speaker 3: and then I would get into the green room and

528
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Speaker 3: I would be like, gab, gab, gab, gab, gap, like

529
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Speaker 3: not stop, like clown show. And that's I think where

530
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Speaker 3: I I end up. So you were kind of going,

531
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Speaker 3: like entertainer, I do become diva and I become kind

532
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Speaker 3: of crass and sassy, and and they love it. They

533
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Speaker 3: love to hear it. Yeah, I'm smacking them on the ass.

534
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Speaker 3: I'm saying show me your cock.

535
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fun stuff like that.

536
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Speaker 2: We do that at the iHeart Yeah.

537
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Speaker 3: No, totally. That hallway that you walk to get the

538
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 3: tunnel of hits actually, if I was, if I was hungover, no,

539
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 3: it hurts, it hurts.

540
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: It's enough to make your turn around and walk back.

541
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Speaker 1: You have to be strong to get through.

542
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, cool.

543
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 2: Should we get into straight topic?

544
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very curious what your straight topic?

545
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: What's your straight topic? And what do you think is

546
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: straight about it?

547
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Speaker 1: Okay?

548
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: So I think okay, So hobbies like hobbies that you

549
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 3: uh do in public? I walking the streets of New

550
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: York lately have been seeing a lot of yo yo's

551
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: happening from amongst boys and men, and then and then

552
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: more men more recently stunting on me with ball and cup.

553
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Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm talking about?

554
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're talking about. Like balling cup

555
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: is the old school style game.

556
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: The Depression era wooden toy.

557
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: They try to get a ball on a string into a.

558
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: Cup, into a cup, and they're just kind.

559
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Speaker 2: Of casually like yeah.

560
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: Talking to their friends with the ball and cup.

561
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Speaker 2: And these are how are they? How are they dressed?

562
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Speaker 3: They're dressed like, you know, like wife beater, Yeah, the

563
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 3: flannel like uh like skater legged pants, white legged pants

564
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: or it's kind of more on like the metro like

565
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: uh espresso, espresso cup, skateboard like uh earing thing.

566
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: Ye, sort of like scene could be located in any

567
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Speaker 2: major American or European city.

568
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like if men's wear. It's like an offshoot

569
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: of like bay Blades, but yeah, right they're listed like, well,

570
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Speaker 3: I don't want to give that yet.

571
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: That's the big thing is that it is like fidgeting

572
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: for the last decade has been huge. Yeah, like bay Blades,

573
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: the fidget spinners. Ye, it's been very cool to have

574
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: a little toy with you. Yeah if you were like twelve,

575
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: ten years ago and now you're twenty two and you're

576
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Speaker 1: like cool, and you're like, well, I still got to

577
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: play with my toy.

578
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: No exactly, I sti't need to play with my toy

579
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: and I can't give you my full attention. Yeah.

580
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

581
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: This is such a rich topic because it's the intersection

582
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: of so much stuff around the crisis and masculinity. So

583
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: on the one hand, we have the return to analog.

584
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: It's a sort of you know, Vinyl Resurgence adjacent type thing, like,

585
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 2: of course I'm going to play with wooden toys rather

586
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: than an iPhone app, So there's that. Then there is

587
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: a sort of I'm sorry to say this, but a

588
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: sort of performance of autism that I find is like

589
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: conscious among men who almost like want to show you

590
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: how little they care totally, so they're just like it's

591
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: almost an extension of like the businessman having a little

592
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 2: basketball hoop in his office and doing that while he's

593
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: in a meeting with a woman. Yeah, but it's the

594
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: contemporary skater version of that.

595
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Speaker 1: M M.

596
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: Then there is the kind of semi ironic back to

597
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: baby movement, which is like grown men in their thirties

598
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: dressing and acting like babies almost as a way to

599
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: like reject It's almost like a response to frankly like wokeness.

600
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: It's like, rather than caring about the election, I'm in

601
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: a crib, Like i am literally like I'm wearing clothes

602
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: that do not fit me, and I'm like walking in

603
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Speaker 2: the middle of the street because I just like don't really,

604
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to all the sidewalk and I'm playing with

605
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: you know, up toy for babies.

606
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Speaker 3: Do you think that it's about being seen though, like

607
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Speaker 3: about others or is that gay?

608
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 2: Well that's the thing is like it is it is

609
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: about being seen, but you don't have the courage to

610
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: do something to be a diva. You don't have the

611
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: courage to like walk walk into a room and start belting.

612
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Speaker 1: You know.

613
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: What would be really gay is if like they were

614
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: just like dragging the ball behind and it wasn't going

615
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: in the cup and their.

616
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Dad was like play with it. Yeah, like no, Yeah.

617
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: I think there's also something where it is like you're

618
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: trying to show that you're part of the group. Like

619
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: that's part of it too, where you're like I remember

620
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: like hacky sack culture and really sort of wanting to

621
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: be like, well, maybe I could be into hacky sack culture,

622
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: Like I could immediately have four friends if I just

623
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: we're into this a little bit, and so it's like

624
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: a quick way into friendship. Yeah, that obviously is a

625
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: little bit sad, but at the same time, you know,

626
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: it's better than no way into friendship.

627
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, baby, performance maybe performance.

628
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Speaker 2: There's also it's like all of it comes down to

629
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: like can you believe I'm doing this?

630
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Okay, I fully I wonder

631
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: how you'll feel about this as someone in uh sort

632
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: of music indie circles where I feel like that's such

633
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: a thing, though, is to like have a thing that

634
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: is like oh, that's like blah blah blah, he blows

635
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: bubbles all the time, like and it's like I remember

636
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: those guys, Like I meet guys that were like, oh

637
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: he like dresses like that, I know, and you like

638
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: have to have a thing.

639
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: It used to be like heroin total it would have

640
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: been like actually cool.

641
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's macha No exactly, No, it does it

642
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: almost It's like the character in the Prince's Diaries, the

643
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: love interest who plays the piano when there's m and

644
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: ms on it, you know what I mean. Or it's

645
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: like Zachary Quipto and Girls where he just has a

646
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: tooth brush in his mouth.

647
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, totally.

648
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: No, totally, huh. I love it. I love that it

649
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: is kind of deeply anti social. Yes, it's deeply anti.

650
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Social, and it's just like another way. It's like another fuck.

651
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: It's actually like the same as a businessman being on

652
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: his phone doing emails, but you're just doing the old

653
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: version of that.

654
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: No, totally. I talk about this with my therapist a lot,

655
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 3: where I want to be like more cavalier and kind

656
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: of and I kind of associate like walking around with

657
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: the toothbrush in your mouth to be cavalier. Yeah, and

658
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: kind of eccentric and yeah yeah, and I've always wanted

659
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: to be more of that. No, you like watch like

660
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: old Courtney Love interviews and stuff and be like, well,

661
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: she's like one of the smartest people in the world,

662
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: but like she just like stuff like that and pick

663
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: something that is my thing.

664
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: Totally.

665
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I wonder where is the line between when

666
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: you see Corney Love doing that, it's so incredible and

667
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 2: seems so authentic, and when you see a guy in

668
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: Dimes Square that's like yo yo ing, You're like, I

669
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: want to punch him in the face. Yeah, And what

670
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: is it that, Like, what is the difference? I mean,

671
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: other than you know, whatever one is.

672
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: I think a lot of them are rich kids, and

673
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: I feel like, if you're rich, it's your responsibility to

674
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 3: flaunt it and be like a dandy, like a fancy guy,

675
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: you know. And if you're not a fancy guy, then

676
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: like then you don't deserve you don't deserve to be

677
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 3: a fancy guy. Like it's like totally like why are

678
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 3: you playing with a wooden toy?

679
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: Like right, right, right, right, you should be like in

680
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: a three piece suit and a pipe totally like I

681
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: would be so under tipping away that like weird.

682
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: Like haberdasherie like culture. Like uh, okay, so maybe kind

683
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 3: of cooler than.

684
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for bringing a class analysis in no,

685
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: because that is true, because you don't. It is like

686
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: a there is something about those guys where regardless of

687
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: how to shovel they look, they are ultimately weirdly wearing

688
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: like supreme like they are actually wearing expensive clothing.

689
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: Well, this is this is something I'm struggling with in general,

690
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: where the more I'm like around in the world, like

691
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: I kind of thought everybody was on the same page,

692
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, oh, nobody's on the same.

693
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: Nobody's on the same page. The culture has never been

694
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: more fractured.

695
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: And like literally the price of people's clothes. I was like, oh,

696
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: everybody's doing exactly the same as me. And it's like

697
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: not even clothes, like that random T shirt is three

698
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: hundred dollars and like I had no idea and they're like, well, yeah,

699
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: like of course, and they think that's normal. It's freaking

700
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: me out.

701
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 2: Yes, But then there's also like the there's also the

702
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: other side of that, which is almost like bragging about

703
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: how you are wearing how you have a bunch of

704
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: expensive stuff that you didn't pay for because you are

705
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: plugged into communities where that stuff gets passed around. Yeah,

706
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: and actually the ability to know the difference is also

707
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: this in group dynamic of like the contemporary version of

708
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: like woman of like quiet luxury versus is you know,

709
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 2: loud wealth.

710
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: Do you still see people in your orbit ever like

711
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 3: fit like thank a brand for giving them anything, you know,

712
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 3: like they bought it that I've never considered.

713
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 2: I think, I think, do you think people are doing that?

714
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: But even though they bought it, know that they can

715
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: get more.

716
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: I have to say, no, one that we know.

717
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I've always wanted to do I've always wanted to

718
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: do that as a bit and I'm literally terrified that

719
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 2: some people will take it seriously. Like I'm trying to think,

720
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: what I like buying something that you would like even

721
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 2: just like Starbucks or you know, something stupid and then

722
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: and then being like thank you Starbucks. But I'm just

723
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: like terrified at this point that one person would think

724
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: I was serious.

725
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: Well do you want to try it for blue bottle?

726
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: Thanks Blue bottle without you, I couldn't podcast.

727
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: What brand would you like to send you free stuff? Yeah,

728
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: like a like a nice sunscreen okay, you got a.

729
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: High yeah, uh, I'm seeing it head to toe. Gucci?

730
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gucci Gucci.

731
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay, great Gucci. So either sunscreen or Gucci ideally both,

732
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: you know, or like coffee, actually coffee, I mean I do.

733
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: I've always fetishized the concept of a lifetime supply of something.

734
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: Of course, well I have to, but I have always

735
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: gotten caught up in sort of what that means legally.

736
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Sure. Well, also then the way it's tax I don't

737
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: even want to lie. They said that you're actually like

738
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: more poor than you've ever read, and also being sued

739
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: by four people.

740
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: Did you ever watch a celebrity Big Brother UK with

741
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: Pete Burns and Dennis Rodman?

742
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: No?

743
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: No, then it's it's like high art. It's like incredible,

744
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 3: And there's this they like make you rat your food

745
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: on that show, like you have to like win challenges

746
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: in order to like get bed.

747
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: In this way.

748
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: It's really dark. But they all as a house decided

749
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: that they wanted to forfeit the food in exchange for

750
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: coffee and cigarettes, and that was like the coolest thing

751
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: I've ever seen on TV. And it's like them in

752
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: the interview room being like all we want is coffee

753
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: and cigarettes, like get rid of everything else. That's what

754
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: I want my lifetime to supply.

755
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes I bump up against this idea that reality TV

756
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: is high art because it's like such a classic thing

757
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: where people like Real Housewives is Shakespeare and I'm like, no,

758
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: it's not. And then you hear things like that and

759
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 2: you're like it is.

760
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 3: But those seasons they have, like there was like a

761
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 3: member of Parliament on it, and they're like, it's like

762
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: there's like an old person, a young person, d D

763
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 3: D like it. It feels very like surreal and weird.

764
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the idea of having

765
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: a thing.

766
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, have you ever had a thing?

767
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 3: Oh? A thing?

768
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 2: Uh?

769
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: I used to imitate Mariah Carey for money in my

770
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: after school program.

771
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: When I was a kid when you say for before

772
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: my voice had change, but in the affter.

773
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 3: School, so what was like, like I would just I

774
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: would fully do the like head voice like and I

775
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 3: was good, I could do it. Whoa and uh I

776
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 3: would they would They would give me like fifty cents

777
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: it was like bust.

778
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: It was during the depression.

779
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, but I don't know a thing.

780
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: Like a passive thing.

781
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think.

782
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: I feel like in college, I kept trying to have

783
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: a thing.

784
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: Like what were the things you tried?

785
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: Well, I like I had these like insane bright red shoes,

786
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's my thing, isn't the guy

787
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: with red shoes?

788
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: Well you went through a phase which I'm noticing is

789
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: less so now where you were really leading into cowboy

790
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: look and that was your thing.

791
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Ran. Yeah, I mean I'm still I'm still I'm finding

792
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: a happy medium with the cowboy thing.

793
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 2: This is the most like twenty tens American apparel thing.

794
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: But when I was in college, I want I was like,

795
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: my thing will be like bright colored cords like corduroys,

796
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: and like I will have like a bright blue one

797
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: of like sort of like burgundy one, a bright red one,

798
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: a bright yellow one, and I bought a bunch and

799
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: then like a month later, I was.

800
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck are you doing?

801
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: Like I can't I can't commit to this, Like I

802
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: was just like I don't have and I would. I

803
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: bumped into the fact that it would be then very

804
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: difficult to style them with anything totally. So I was

805
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 2: like I looked like completely insane in those worlds.

806
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 3: Well know, the great thing about like loud pants is

807
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: that everything else can be.

808
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: I know, but I like didn't plan for that. So

809
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,240
Speaker 2: I just had like T shirts that were like from

810
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, urban outfitters and they said like pugs not drugs.

811
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, talk about Minneapolis.

812
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: I know. I definitely wanted to be like, my thing

813
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: is that every day I have a funny T shirt.

814
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah that was like high school totally, but that's that's normal.

815
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.

816
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: I remember when I was in middle school and still

817
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: in New Jersey, I was obsessed with I didn't have

818
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: the courage to do this, but I was like I

819
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: wish I could pull up a bandana like boy band style.

820
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: Like I was just like, what if I just can

821
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 2: put on a white bandana or like a green bandana

822
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 2: and come to school?

823
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: You could have just done it. Yeah, it's hard, but

824
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: it again difficult to style well everything else. That's the thing.

825
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: It's like you pick one, I know, and then everything

826
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: else can be drab.

827
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: You know.

828
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 2: What you also forget when you're a kid is like

829
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: because you don't have control of like how you're getting

830
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: places and and you don't have your own money. It's

831
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 2: like what you're saying, like, oh yeah, just buy a

832
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: bunch of basics. It's like that's a month long problem.

833
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: That is like multiple trips to the mall, like asking

834
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: your parents be like really, wow with I really want

835
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: you're going to wear?

836
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: And maybe like.

837
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: I feel like I was very like cross body bag

838
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 3: before it was like before it was a thing. Yeah,

839
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 3: And I was also victim to like chunky heel like

840
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: you know, like chunky heel shoe like but like keep

841
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: it leisure thing. I was like very much like all

842
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 3: my shoes are gonna look like that like sketchers like thing.

843
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but have you ever tried to pull off like

844
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: a like overalls?

845
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: Of course you don't remember my overall? Oh you do?

846
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: You you could pull them up. See that's exactly how

847
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: I think I could never pull.

848
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: Off or like see the thing is having a thing

849
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 1: is so much easier in New York. Yeah. I could

850
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: try so many things here and you would be like, yeah,

851
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: he's trying a thing in LA. If you try to think,

852
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: people are like what does this say about you? They're

853
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: like why why would you do that. And that's so.

854
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: Funny because in LA, my image of like walking around

855
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: Silver Leg is like you see a couple and the

856
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: man is like fifty years old and wearing Vans and

857
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: the woman is full rockabilly and like twenty five, and

858
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: you just like can't question it.

859
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: It's crazy how the like Bomian like Safari desert thing

860
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: has still not died. No, No, it's so it's so Hardashery.

861
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. New York versus LA is one

862
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 2: of our favorite topics. But essentially what this podcast the

863
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: same with LA is like, on the one hand, it

864
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: is you would think on the cutting edge of culture,

865
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 2: since they are producing all the culture that everyone else consuming.

866
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: On the other hand, you go there and it's so

867
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven.

868
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 3: No, fully, yeah, big hat, Yeah, the big books are everywhere.

869
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: It's well, that's because New York is trying to impress

870
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 1: New York. LA is trying to impress the Midwest. Wow,

871
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: so they came to Edgy or they'll.

872
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: These that's true. Heleen hit the base.

873
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: No, that's so so true.

874
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: I find it very upsetting even because yeah, here when

875
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: you see someone who's dressed like really normal, you're like, well,

876
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: they're doing that on purpose. There's like a knowledge there

877
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: and they're You're like they don't know, they just they

878
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: just don't know. God, it's nice to be here and

879
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: just be able to ship talk. Yeah, thank god.

880
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: Okay yo yo's okay, okay.

881
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: Fidgeting, Yeah, figeting?

882
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 2: Are you a fidget for sure?

883
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 3: I'm like a nail bier. Oh yeah, until or like

884
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 3: I recently was like really really trying not to, but

885
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 3: I recently relapsed.

886
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: Oh no, how'd that go for you?

887
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: I was watching a movie and I just suddenly they

888
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 3: were gone and it was a real nail blighter.

889
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, great thing you can do about that be

890
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: on your phone as well. Yeah, and then you won't

891
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: be better.

892
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: Well, this is where I'm when it comes to back

893
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: to Gabee straight of course, is that straight guys are

894
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: playing Wooden Cup game whereas gay guys are looking for

895
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: sex on their phone.

896
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: But I actually like think the Wooden Cup game is better.

897
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Like I would love to reclaim Wooden Cup Game and

898
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: yoyo in a different context.

899
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the progremis of this podcast isn't that

900
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: gay is better than straight? Of course, Sometimes it's that

901
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: straight is better than gay. I actually would love to

902
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: play Wooden cup Game rather than be on sniffy is

903
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: looking at random dicks. Definitely.

904
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we need to invent a new fidgeting

905
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: thing that's sort of like specifically targeted towards gay guys

906
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: and maybe even the entire LGBTQ plus community. And I

907
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: wonder what that would be.

908
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: Imagine if so, whenever we go out of town for

909
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 1: a show, Imagine if instead of sitting in the hotel

910
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,399
Speaker 1: room for three hours looking at the various apps, we

911
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: were playing cup game. We would be so good at

912
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: cup Game.

913
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: What about like de stressor like the like the balls

914
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: with the bells in them where you like you know

915
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: what I mean, or the or like a.

916
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: Squeezer or one of those things that's like full of

917
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 2: blue liquid and little dolphins.

918
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm actually the most It's like we're

919
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: not on Snippy's but we're just doing this.

920
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: It was jerking off a dolphin.

921
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: That's actually an amazing idea and talk about a thing. Yeah,

922
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: if that was my thing.

923
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: Oh, people would be yeah you that is definitely the

924
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: gay version of having a yo yoga is just having

925
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: those like the gayest glittery or like leaking, just like

926
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: glittery blue liquid and little like beach balls and dolphins

927
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: flying everywhere.

928
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: That would be so great. Oh my god, I've actually recently.

929
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: When it's vapes, Oh it's babes.

930
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 2: It's definitely vabes. And also for a certain subset. I

931
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 2: know this is also on the phone, but for a

932
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: certain subset, it's like New York Times games, you know

933
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like it's word or it's crossword puzzle.

934
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: That's a big yeah.

935
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: In many ways, it's it's reading a book.

936
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

937
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm like, instead of three hours on an app,

938
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: I could just read a book and like get pretty far.

939
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: That realization has only hit me the last year.

940
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: I know. It's sort of crazy that all you have

941
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: to do is put your phone in a different room

942
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: and you could read a book.

943
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: You would read a whole book and you'll feel better.

944
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm jealous of you for and

945
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: people that are like artists that are not writers or

946
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you're also a writer, but like

947
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: ours that are not like primarily like writing in a

948
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 2: Google doc.

949
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: You know. I love about No.

950
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: No, it's like because I know friends who aren't like

951
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: to be a musician, to be a painter, to be

952
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: a sculptor, you literally have to use your hands for

953
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: what you are doing. Totally, and can you imagine if

954
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: we had that luxury, like to wake up every day

955
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: and be a painter and be like I literally cannot

956
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: pick up my phone.

957
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: No, that would be nice.

958
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: Or I'm I'm in the studio, as I know there's

959
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: some downtime, but like I'm in the studio recording, and

960
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: so I have to have my guitar on mem you.

961
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: Essentially, it's like how I feel when I eat a burrito.

962
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, well all we have is eating a burrito.

963
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: Do you understand, like at least I can't be touching my.

964
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: Friend minute, Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's nice. But also like

965
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: most of my time is spent like like head in

966
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: the clouds, like walking around like writing in my head.

967
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: Do you ban yourself from like do you take walks

968
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 2: that are like no tech?

969
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sometimes I think that's a big thing. Totally.

970
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 2: We should maybe try out at some point, I should

971
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: try it out, you know. James Cherry, Yeah, he recently

972
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: put he recently posted like he bought a laptop and

973
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: he was like it's crazy to like you guys are

974
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: not gonna believe this, but this is sort of the

975
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 2: first laptop I've ever bought, because he was just like, yeah,

976
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: I am an artist that works with my hands. I

977
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 2: when I went to college, I went to art school. Presumably,

978
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not sure. It's like he's the default

979
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: of like you wake up, you're on a laptop has

980
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: never existed.

981
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: For him, right because also like if he needs an email,

982
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: he can use his phone exactly. That's interesting, that's awesome.

983
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, just let me think about did you ever

984
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: have like the little phone, like when people kind of

985
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 2: were regressing on purpose and getting like dumb little Nokia,

986
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing. It's like I don't have the

987
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: much like the not having the courage to wear a bandon.

988
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 3: That I'm like, that's the thing.

989
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I exist in the state of desire for

990
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: the better thing, but I'm but I would never actually

991
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: take the step to get there. Would you ever get

992
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 2: a dumb phone?

993
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: No? No way. I also like the convenience of just

994
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: like a map is.

995
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: Yea, no, totally, that's like so much of it.

996
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: But they have that's the thing. There's phones that have

997
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 2: texting and.

998
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: Map I'm not buying it. I've never seen one of

999
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 1: these phes in my damn wife. It's like it's too hard.

1000
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I actually think it's bad for you. This

1001
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: is my Okay, here's a hot take. I think it's

1002
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 1: bad when people are like, I'm checking out of everything

1003
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: and I'm living this life like I'm like like when

1004
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: the Lord was like, I don't use social media anymore.

1005
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, well, you're gonna lose touch with what

1006
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: society is. I don't think she has. I think she

1007
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: did lose touch, and I think she's back and she's

1008
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: in touch again.

1009
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: You think she lost touch with solar power.

1010
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: Well as a solar power stand, yes, I think she

1011
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: lost touch, and I think it was an important part

1012
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: of her journey. But I think she lost touch.

1013
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: I see what you're saying. You're saying her commentary on

1014
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: you know, sort of like Pilates and being California Sober

1015
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 2: did not feel of its time.

1016
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: No.

1017
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 3: Everybody's line about that record is it will age. Well,

1018
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: that's what I hear every gig I say, But it

1019
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 3: will I think it will understand on it. I think

1020
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: I kind of agree.

1021
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: I agree too, because I think that the issue was

1022
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 2: at the time, no one wanted that kind of social

1023
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: commentary because that's not quote unquote where we were at.

1024
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 2: But at some point that just becomes universal, Like it

1025
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: just becomes like a general those themes, Like those themes

1026
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 2: exist in and out of culture forever.

1027
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, like.

1028
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 2: Ray of Light happened to come out at the exact

1029
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 2: right time for that to resonate. But what if Ray

1030
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: of Light had come out in twenty two thousand and

1031
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 2: three post nine to eleven. I don't think that would

1032
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 2: have worked well.

1033
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: For the record, I've always supported solar power. Yeah, I

1034
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: just think I do think she would just disconnect. Yeah, Like,

1035
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: and that maybe was great for her individually, but as

1036
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: someone trying to comment on society, it's complicated. Yeah. I mean,

1037
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: so have you met Lord or I have? Was it? Was?

1038
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: She nicer?

1039
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: She's great? So nice?

1040
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: Did you was it pre your post solar power post?

1041
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: What you and did you say? H? Well, you know what.

1042
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 3: I said that to her and she said, thank you

1043
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 3: for saying that to me. You did that.

1044
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: That's nice. That's nice.

1045
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: I do love that. That's the wait, that's you start.

1046
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: You met her at the Jack at Jack Antonov's Hospital.

1047
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 2: Hospital bed she's in tears. She's like, Jack, well, should

1048
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: we do our final segment?

1049
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: Is it time?

1050
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: We don't have to?

1051
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: No, we can. Well. I feel like it's that thing

1052
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: of like when you say you're having so much fun.

1053
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: I know I'm having a lot of fun. I also

1054
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: want to like gossip in.

1055
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 1: A way that we can't. We can't.

1056
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: I keep wanting to ask you things that I know

1057
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: I shouldn't.

1058
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: Oh try, No, come on, he told us about Lord. Yeah,

1059
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: she's down to spills.

1060
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: Hold us Jack sick?

1061
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 1: Okay, keeping that tight?

1062
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: Okay, give us all the music industry gossip. Oh my,

1063
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: when's the sky for our album coming?

1064
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I don't, honestly, I don't know

1065
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 3: that much gossip. Yeah about it. I wish that I

1066
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: knew more.

1067
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: I don't know who is.

1068
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: The biggest bitch in music?

1069
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: And you can't say Katie Perry. No.

1070
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 3: I I love that she's saying, what a wonderful world

1071
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 3: in space.

1072
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: And not what a woman's world?

1073
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: That's deeply anti social behavior.

1074
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 2: It is crazy. Do you find that the space thing

1075
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: is like so so many players of evil that you like,

1076
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: can't even wrap your minds. I can't say, I can't

1077
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: even say a sentence that like could wrap up my feelings.

1078
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: No about it. It's so like gratuitous every way, so gratuitous.

1079
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: I like feel bad for the people involved. I feel

1080
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: even though they like willingly, I'm just like, this is

1081
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: all horrible.

1082
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even the gratuitousness seems almost like the point,

1083
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: it's almost like they all know it is and they're

1084
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: skipping the part where they pretend it isn't It.

1085
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: Would have been better if they were up there for longer.

1086
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 3: I know, it was like a.

1087
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: Day, nine months or yeah, several months mission. All you'd

1088
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 2: have to do is like add a little charity element,

1089
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: just be like and exactly. And we're bringing a make

1090
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: a Wish kid. We're bringing Jack Antono, who's dying. His

1091
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: final wish was to go to space with Katie Pear women. Yeah, he'said,

1092
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: oh my god, that is so Jack ansenov to be like,

1093
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: I love women and women women artists like Katy Perry,

1094
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: and I want to go to space with Gail King

1095
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: and Katy Perry. This is my final wish. I am

1096
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 2: dying of, you know, synthesizer disease, and it is time

1097
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: for me to have my.

1098
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: Final wish that would have been so amazing and we

1099
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: could have saved him.

1100
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: And we could have saved him. Yeah, it could have

1101
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: been an interstellar. He comes back and he's twelve years old.

1102
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't it's so funny.

1103
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: Okay, we have to tell you about Lozzo's Pass. Lozzo's

1104
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: Pass is a concept Sam came up with where when

1105
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: an up and coming musical artist is at the pass

1106
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: where she has to decide between going Pitchfork and going Target.

1107
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: So it's named after Lizzo, who chose Target. She was

1108
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: an up and coming art as people forget, she was

1109
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 2: very cool, like super, like a boring during a SLA

1110
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: she chose Target. Chaperone is currently at the pass and

1111
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 2: she's delay making a decision, but we support what We're scared,

1112
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: but she and I would support either one. Heim chose Pitchfork,

1113
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: Twigs chose Pitchfork, Lord chose Lord chose Pitchfork. Who's someone

1114
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: who chose target?

1115
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 3: Hmmm, Tate McCrae.

1116
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like wish she ever she was never

1117
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 2: at the Yes, she's never at the past anyway. The

1118
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: point is if I mean.

1119
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: She's never even been to the past.

1120
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 2: Oh, Tate McCray, do you feel like do you feel

1121
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: like you're at the past? Do you feel like you've

1122
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: been at the past or do you think it's coming.

1123
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 3: Are you scared of the past? I've been at the

1124
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 3: past about No, I've not been at the past. I've

1125
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 3: just like I feel I don't know this. This sounds

1126
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: kind of like trite because there's lots of things going

1127
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 3: on in the world horrible.

1128
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything.

1129
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: I still think there's a lot of homophobia and music

1130
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 3: in a way where like gay guys don't want to

1131
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: see other gay guys succeed, and there's a lot of

1132
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: gatekeeping in this funny kind of way where like I've

1133
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 3: been doing this for a long time, and uh, I'm

1134
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: gonna keep doing it because it's like lifeblood. But I

1135
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: feel like I don't know, like it's yeah, I get

1136
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 3: like I talk about this with like a lot of

1137
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 3: my like gay guy musician friends where we're all kind

1138
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 3: of in this like funny situation where we're like doing

1139
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: like these like songwritery things or whatever. But then you

1140
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 3: still just have like Alex g and like m J.

1141
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 3: Linderman and they just like dominate the like genius boy thing. Yeah,

1142
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: and like that's cool, like they're great, They're really good,

1143
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 3: but uh yeah, we wanna we want to throw it

1144
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 3: back for some gay guy one day.

1145
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: So it's like I never considered that gay guys have

1146
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: to choose pitch Forks exactly.

1147
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: This is forced upon them.

1148
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, who was the last gay guy

1149
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 2: to choose Target? Elton John Adam Lambert, Adam Lamb.

1150
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 1: Adam Lambert Adam chose Target, And even then Target kind

1151
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: of was like you can go in the clear and style.

1152
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, they're not putting him right in the

1153
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: front with the Oprah's book Club selection.

1154
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: No, the Taylor swop CD is on tail choice.

1155
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: Evon is kind of Oh that's interesting.

1156
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: He's getting close. But I think in our bubble still,

1157
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 1: like I feel like in our bubble he's a big

1158
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: pop star. But in like like does my mom know

1159
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: who choy Sevon is?

1160
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: Sam Smith, Sam Smith, Sam shows Target chose Target?

1161
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam said.

1162
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: Chose So that's just that perfume genius chose pitch Fork.

1163
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but in an.

1164
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: Empowered way, yes, absolutely. But I I think it's interesting.

1165
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: The gatekeeping of it always interesting. What you're saying. It's

1166
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,439
Speaker 2: like there you're you can be as a gig guy

1167
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: at the pass and you can see pitchwork on one end,

1168
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 2: you can see Target on the other end. But there

1169
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 2: is this like music exec guy that is in front

1170
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: of the Target, and it's like do you have your

1171
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: do you have your idea? And then sort of like

1172
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: you're in a dream where you can't find your idea anywhere.

1173
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: It's like not in any of your pockets. Wow.

1174
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: Wow, I would hate to be at Lizzo's Pass and

1175
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: not have my idea.

1176
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lizzo's Pass is so funny.

1177
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: We yesterday we our guest yesterday and Durian and Saint

1178
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 2: Felix was saying that potentially there's a world in which

1179
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: you could visit Target but then be like, all right,

1180
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: I have like like Kim, yes, that's a great example.

1181
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: And then I go back and be like and now,

1182
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: all right, that was fun. I visited Target time to

1183
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: go pitch for her.

1184
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited. I'm very excited for what she does next.

1185
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: I agree.

1186
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: I have friends that have been working with her.

1187
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,959
Speaker 2: She always keeps us.

1188
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: On her chose and I think people really want to

1189
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: discount her.

1190
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 2: They really do. People are actually so cruel to her. Yeah,

1191
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: for no reason. Well, but I'm on her side is

1192
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I will follow her.

1193
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will follow her as well.

1194
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah what if York chose target, then it'd be really good.

1195
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1196
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: Almost when she wrote the Madonna song, that was like

1197
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: the most target she could possibly get, but it was

1198
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: like yeah, that time stories, but that was still I know.

1199
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: I think the most target she went was doing you

1200
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: know no, no, no, no, the you boy It's so

1201
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 3: quiet yeah yeah yeah, but that was like it was

1202
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 3: like that was pretty Yeah, that was so like Christmas time.

1203
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: But I think that was like a commentary on a

1204
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: show tune.

1205
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: It was like, well it's her being like freaky dey yes,

1206
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: like yes, but still it's like I remember when that

1207
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 3: was like the ad for like Sex and the City. Yeah,

1208
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: and like Sara Disca Parker's like with the big like

1209
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: the red balloons and stuff.

1210
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of I think you know who really was at

1211
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: Pitchwork and Chows target is Jesse Ware Oh yeah, because

1212
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: that that one album that I'm pigting the name of

1213
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: the Distance one. Yeah, that was so Pitchwork was like

1214
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: this is so fun. And then the follow up.

1215
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: But then she was like I have a tortoise out yea.

1216
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a podcast was then like Pearls was like

1217
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: this and just like that song and it was like.

1218
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: That was that was sad.

1219
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: That was a bummer.

1220
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: And now she's just like she has like a mommy podcast.

1221
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: Yes it's literally like what it's like, like what it's

1222
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 3: like being a mommy.

1223
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: But it's her and her mom and the premise is

1224
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: that they're eating dinner and with a guest. Do you

1225
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: get to hear all the like, yeah, there was.

1226
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: No, Well that's kind of funny.

1227
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 3: Oh god.

1228
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: I saw her Coachella twenty twelve.

1229
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: How was it?

1230
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: She was great. She's I was front row because no

1231
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: one else knew about it.

1232
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: Now she is great. I went to one of the

1233
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two shows whatever and she.

1234
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 2: Was great and she was being so British. It was

1235
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 2: just like, I mean, it was obviously at two pm

1236
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: because she was not like one of the headliners at

1237
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 2: the time, and it was just like her. And there

1238
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: was a stool that had a mug of tea on it,

1239
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: like you could see the tea bag. That's cool, and

1240
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 2: she was just like take a sip of tea and

1241
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: then do you.

1242
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: Know we'll talk about having a thing.

1243
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 2: That's another Yeah, she love to have like a ooh

1244
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 2: musicians up to have it like in your rider, yeah, or.

1245
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: Like even like the guy from the National always has

1246
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: a glass of red wine on stage or like you know,

1247
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: like there's like all.

1248
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: That thing that is some straight shit that I cannot

1249
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: deal with.

1250
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: The like yeah, keep going, keep going.

1251
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: I mean I'm just like I don't I don't know

1252
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: why you saying the National.

1253
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 4: It was just like triggering, Like I mean there were

1254
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 4: natal triggering uh in regards even if you are a

1255
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 4: fan of the National, which I think they have some

1256
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: great songs, they hear about the Nationalist triggering.

1257
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it implies a culture.

1258
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's just like I think it's because I

1259
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 3: see like how men age in music, like where how

1260
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: all of them kind of just go to like blazer town,

1261
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: Like they all kind of just like suddenly it's just

1262
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 3: like I have to own a blazer and I have

1263
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: to wear it on stage, and I have to like

1264
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: not shave as much. Although I mean like sometimes that's cool,

1265
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 3: like in a surge Gainsborgie kind of way where you're

1266
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 3: like uncamped and it's a part of it.

1267
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: But like.

1268
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: But he's kind of like an honor I mean well,

1269
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 3: he's French, so it doesn't it's changes, it's completely different.

1270
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: But I do want this is actually.

1271
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: A great idea for just like a long magazine feature

1272
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: that's just like checking in on all the men of

1273
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 2: the twenty twelve Pitchfork era, like.

1274
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 3: Like like yeah, and like yeah dirty projector.

1275
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: Dirty Projectors, even like Bonie Vere, like just like where

1276
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: are they? What did they look like then? And what

1277
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: do they look like now? Because that is sort of

1278
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 2: there's a Pitchfork versus Target of Fashion.

1279
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: Well it's.

1280
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 2: It's Blazer Town or there's or hype Blazer or hype Beast.

1281
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: I think are the two options. Don't you think.

1282
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 3: Who's hype Beast? That's I do think.

1283
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: Boni ver I was I recently video of him where

1284
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 2: he's wearing like a bright orange hoodie.

1285
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: That's like in a Wisconsin way Okay, okay, okay.

1286
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 3: And he's also really really rich and that's like that's

1287
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 3: like rich Man drag where you're like, uh, hoodie, sweatpant

1288
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: like leisure. Yeah.

1289
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: For some reason, I'm standing boniv right now.

1290
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: I know everyone is defending I haven't listened to the news.

1291
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: Everyone says it's great, it's age really well age really really.

1292
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when what year is gonna what year will

1293
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: need solar power? Really bad?

1294
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a good question.

1295
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, this summer is solar power. It's solar power summer.

1296
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm cold, it's not it's not.

1297
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 3: But like it'll make a comeback like fruit fruit Yeah,

1298
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 3: like murder on the dance Floor. Oh yeah, where it's

1299
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 3: in a movie.

1300
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, by the way, I think you know, it

1301
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 2: should make a comeback. Allah, Murder on the dance floor

1302
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 2: is feels so good by sunik?

1303
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 3: Is that not bad?

1304
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: I feel like that it did it.

1305
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, not on TikTok.

1306
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 3: No, it's not even TikTok. Just like it's like you

1307
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 3: hear hear it.

1308
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, as long as you're hearing it, my work

1309
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: is done.

1310
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Okay, now I think we can do fine, Okay,

1311
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: let's okay. So I find it's like it's called shout outs,

1312
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,959
Speaker 1: and in this segment we pay homage to the grand

1313
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: straight tradition of the radio shout out, shouting out to

1314
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: anything that we enjoy. People place these things ideas.

1315
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 2: When we think of them on the spot. Why we're

1316
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: both contemplating, which is why we are.

1317
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: Both contemplate, Oh God, what will it be? I And

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Speaker 1: what I'm struggling with is like I wish I had

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Speaker 1: a good one.

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Speaker 2: I know, Oh right, totally. Yeah, That's definitely what I'm

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Speaker 2: struggling with as well.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, sometimes I'm okay with being like whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, no, no, no, I want, I want,

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Speaker 1: I want to, I want, I want the bank substance.

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Speaker 1: I know I want substance too, and and yet I

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Speaker 1: don't have it.

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Speaker 2: What's up, freaks of losers? I want to give a

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Speaker 2: shout out to substance. That's right, saying something and having

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Speaker 2: it have gravity, have it have meaning, and having it

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Speaker 2: have lasting power, much like Lord's solar power. Saying something

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Speaker 2: that will age well because it's not directly commenting on

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Speaker 2: the culture of the time. It's not a response to something,

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Speaker 2: and it's not reactive. It is something that is a

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Speaker 2: fully formed idea that is going that is ahead of

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Speaker 2: its time, and that is going to at some point

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Speaker 2: create a paradigm shift that will then lead to more substance.

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Speaker 2: And in that sense, it's also generative. So shout out

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Speaker 2: to if you open your mouth, try to say something

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Speaker 2: with substance rather than substance.

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Speaker 1: Who wow, Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, okay, I got one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's ups and perfects around the globe. I want to

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Speaker 1: give a huge shout out to my physical therapist. I

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Speaker 1: have been doing physcal therapy for my back and this

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Speaker 1: woman knows my body more than anyone on earth. I'm

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Speaker 1: learning stretches that you wouldn't even believe, and guess what,

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Speaker 1: they are effective, and I'm saying, why.

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Speaker 2: Aren't we taught this goals?

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Speaker 1: We need to learn how to stretch properly. Did you

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Speaker 1: know I've been when you bend down to reach your toes.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing it wrong my whole life and You're like,

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Speaker 1: how can you bend down wrong? It's possible. I was

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Speaker 1: bending from my back and not from my pelvis, and

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Speaker 1: guess what, I've never been able to touch my toes

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Speaker 1: and that's why. Isn't that crazy? Anyway? I think when

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Speaker 1: we are more in touch with our bodies, we will

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Speaker 1: finally be free and living in Lord's solar power universe.

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Speaker 1: So shout to my physical therapist. I love you, xoxo.

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Speaker 3: Say who high freaks. I want to shout out the

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Speaker 3: auto play feature on television streaming because I need. I

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Speaker 3: need to just leave the TV on for my dog

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Speaker 3: when I leave so that he doesn't have a panic attack.

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Speaker 3: And then wait, and then one other thing. This is

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Speaker 3: truly in a moment, as you can tell, or it's dull.

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Speaker 3: But speaking of physical therapy, I want to shout out

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Speaker 3: to the guy in my yoga class that left in

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Speaker 3: the middle and said this is too hard to the

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Speaker 3: class because bravery. Yeah, that's that's like freak behavior. That's

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Speaker 3: really cool. Shout out yeah, with the gear straight straight see,

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Speaker 3: I love.

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Speaker 2: That being able to defeat.

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Speaker 1: Was it hot yoga?

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Speaker 3: Hot yoga?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they turn it way. Sometimes there's a panic there,

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Speaker 3: there's panic. I don't know if it's actually healthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I questioned it as well, but I've definitely wanted

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Speaker 1: to run out before. What did the teacher came out?

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Speaker 1: I feel they always say like and whatever you do,

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Speaker 1: don't let don't leave the room if you're you know,

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Speaker 1: lie down. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, she didn't comment on it.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I know, hello police.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she and she was pregnant.

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Speaker 2: The teacher was pregnant.

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Speaker 3: The teacher was pregnant. Baby gonna baby gonna be hot?

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Speaker 2: Is that safe for not to police pregnant women's bodies,

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Speaker 2: but get out of there.

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Speaker 3: No yoga yoga worms is like a different thing entirely. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: shout out yoga worms.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yoga worm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You guys did that.

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Speaker 1: You did that? You ate you ate well, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for doing this, Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 3: For having me, and once again, please tell people, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: listen to my record and his splash band and I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm cooking right now, so stay tuned. Ok just cooking.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you're at Jackas Hospital, bub Bye bye bye.

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