1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks. It is Wednesday, November twenty six, the 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: day before Thanksgiving. It and before you use any campbell 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: soup and your Thanksgiving meal preparation, you need to hear this. 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: The CEO has a message for you. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: Not quite CEO, he's the vice president. He is a 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: vice president. Yeah, he's an executive. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: He's a hierarchy executive who want He has a message 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: robes for people who are wanting to use their products. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: He wants you to know that it is ultra processed 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: and it's unhealthy. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: It's like bio engineered meat. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: Yes, with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: TJ Robes. First, you're using you said you're using Campbell's products. 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: It is not going to deter me. I actually have 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: two cast roles that require One of them requires cream 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: of mushroom soup. Campbell's in the pantry right now. The 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: other one requires Campbell's cream of chicken soup. 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: Yumy, they're so good. 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: What kind of guess green bean cast role is the 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: cream of mushroom soup. It's just an old staple from 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: way back when that I just love. And nothing says 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving like fried onions on top of canned green beans 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: and canned cream mushroom soup. It's so good. 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Wow. So the Campbell soup is probably the least of 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: your problems in that particular dish, okay, if anybody's eating it. 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: And then we have my annual specialty that came to 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: me from my mom, which came to her from her mom, 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: which is a potato bakes and. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: It has what Campbell's product. 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: Is called Country Potato bake. It has cream of chicken soup. 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: We're little chicken chunks in the cream of chicken soup. 32 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: So that's what did he say about the chicken. 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: He said it was came from a three D printer. 34 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: Yes, that was the other thing this executive said. So, yes, 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: it was not the CEO. Make sure we'll get that 36 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: out there. But this was the vice president for it 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: for the company, King executive Robes, who actually has nothing 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: to do with food production at all. 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: But you would think he would know how the sausage 40 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: is made though, being that he is at the level 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: he's at and the things he's seen, if he is 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: the VP of it, that means he's seen lots of 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 2: communications lying around about the general memos and I don't 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: know you'd think he'd be privy to things that the 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: rest of us are not. 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Well. Martin Bally is his name, but he was named 47 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: in a lawsuit from an employee who says he was 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: fired improperly. So this is why this is coming out. 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: We'll get into the details, but it's coming out now 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: because of that lawsuit, and a part of that lawsuit, 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Robes is a at the center of it. At least 52 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: right now, there is a recording that this man has 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: made when he was an employee there and had a 54 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: meeting with this vice president in which he said all 55 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: kinds of racist remarks and made several comments disparaging the 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: product itself in Robes went on for a while. 57 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Garza actually said he was going to meet 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: his boss, Martin Bally, the VP and Chief Information Security 59 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: Officer is his title as well. So he was there 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: to talk about his raise at a diner, and he said, 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: true to form, his boss Martin Bally started going off 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: on rants, and so he decided to record the conversation. 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 2: He ended up with an hour and fifteen minutes of 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: a recorded conversation. And by the way, where he recorded it, 65 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: his lawyers wanted to point out it is perfectly legal. 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: All you need is one party consent. The other person 67 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: doesn't have to know. One of the people involved in 68 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 2: the conversation has to know it's being recorded, and then 69 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: it's legal. But my god, this audio recording is damning. 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: And he said it was so disturbing that he didn't 71 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: say he had the recording. He just went to his 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: supervisor and told him what happened. He said he was 73 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: not given any to go to HR, He was not 74 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: giving any advice on how to handle it. But all 75 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: he knows is twenty days later he was fired and 76 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: he had no idea why. He said he wasn't given 77 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: a reason, He wasn't given a follow up. And he 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: said in the meeting with Bally, Balu actually was praising 79 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 2: him at how well he was doing his job. So 80 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: it seemed as though it were it was retribution for 81 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: basically whistleblowing. And now he's got the audio recording, and man, 82 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: is it damning? 83 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: Which is this now? Right? It's a legal I don't 84 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: know how much of a big deal of a legal 85 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: matter this would be. Big companies get sued all the 86 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: time by employees to scruntle. It happens all the time, 87 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: and we never hear about it. If this recording did 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: not exist, we wouldn't have heard about this one. My 89 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: question to you, does he have a case without this recording? 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't think so, he said, he said, then right 91 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: at that point. 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: But is he basing all of his issues on this? Yeah, 93 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: the focus is the recording and this made him want 94 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: to go to HR and then he got fired. Yes, correct, 95 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: he's saying, yes, this was my Oh well yeah, damn. 96 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: It's his proof. And he actually ended up so yes, 97 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: they filed the lawsuit, and then he actually let a 98 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 2: Detroit News reporter, because this all happened in Michigan, listen 99 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: to the recording. I have to say, when I first 100 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: saw the story, I was skeptical because you hear disgruntled 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: employee god fired, is angry files a lawsuit? I thought, 102 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: uh huh okay, And then I heard the recording and 103 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: it is powerful and there is a reason why this 104 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: story is now making international headlines. We even right now 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: have a state, the state of Florida, threatening to ban 106 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: Campbell's soup products from the entire state of Florida. That's 107 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: how far this has gotten. 108 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: Now. 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: If they had just listened to Robert Garza when he 110 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: told them what Martin Bally said to him. This could 111 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: have all been avoided. 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: Isn't that something if you just do the right thing 113 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: in the moment, you could avoid a bigger problem down 114 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: the road. 115 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, just investigate what he says. Don't fire him for 116 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: saying something you didn't want to hear, because he was. 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: It seems as though he was telling the truth. 118 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: And the devastating part of this recording is not I'm 119 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: not thinking, oh this Mortn Valley is such a bad guy, 120 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: or even it's devastating for Campbell's. It's devastating what he's 121 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: saying about their products. Look, an insult to the customers 122 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: is one thing, but he, in a moment, an honest moment, 123 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: said their product is crap, and it's so crappy he 124 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: doesn't even use it. Wow. 125 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: All right, so we have some of the excerpts. Can 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: we say what he said without causing any problem. 127 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: I've been doing it for two days. Want to clean 128 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: it up? 129 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: That's okay? No, no, no, he says, among many things. 130 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: This is from the Rook recording, and Robert Garza says, 131 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: this is Martin Bally again, Campbell's soup vice president and 132 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: chief Information Security officer, saying, we have shit for fucking 133 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: poor people who buys our shit. I don't buy Campbell's 134 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: products barely anymore. It's not healthy. Now that I know 135 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: what the fuck's in it? 136 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: That is just awful. Who's the competitor? Who is Campbell's 137 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: soup competitor? Is there? 138 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: I was just thinking, chunky, that's so funny. You can't 139 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: really think I can't come up with in this moment. 140 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: Amy's has some there's an Amy's organic brand I've seen 141 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: on the store shelf. 142 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: This was politics. They would take that recording and play 143 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: it over and over again and say, yep, that's where 144 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: they are telling you about their products. Come over here 145 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: and try ours. 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: This is crazy, Yes, it gets He also goes on 147 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: to say bio engineered. I don't want to eat a 148 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: piece of chicken that came from a three D printer. 149 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: And that is part of what is causing Florida's Attorney 150 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: general to say, hey, we actually funny enough this year 151 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 2: put a ban in place on bioengineered meat being sold 152 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: in our state. So now they have ordered an investigation 153 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: to say or to find out if any of what 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: this executive said is in fact true. Now, he also 155 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: admitted to Garza on this recording that he goes to 156 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 2: work high on THHC marijuana edibles. He just told him that. 157 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that would be a fireable offense in and 158 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: of itself. But then he goes on to make incredibly 159 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: derogatory comments about the Indian employees. I actually feel uncomfortable 160 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: saying what he said. But he just basically said that 161 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: the Indian employees at Campbell's Soup don't know a effing thing, 162 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: they couldn't think for their effing selves, and called them idiots. 163 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: Damn, that is. 164 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: Harsh and hard to explain away, like, oh my words 165 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: were taking out of context now, I mean he has 166 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: the recording an hour and fifteen minutes and it goes 167 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: on and on and on. 168 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, and look, he's not going back to work there. 169 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: He's on leave now, he has been placed on leave. 170 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's not going back to work. How 171 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: much work do they have to do now to make 172 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: up for this? You said it, didn't you did chicken line? 173 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: You just use there. Yeah, one of your cans is 174 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: cream of chicken. 175 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it has little chicken chunks in it. 176 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so you hear this, you think anything, you don't 177 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: stop for a second at all, You just go right about. 178 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: You think most people would just keep it rolling and 179 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: keep getting their Campbell's Tomato soup. 180 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 2: And I think some people will, and I think other 181 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: people will make a choice to change. Yes, I mean, look, 182 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: I have This is one I would like to talk 183 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: to my dad about because my dad was is a microbiologist, 184 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: but he worked for a very long time in the 185 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: meat industry, and specifically in the chicken industry, and he 186 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: used to always take issue with people making comments about McDonald's. 187 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: You know, they're like, oh, McDonald's chicken nuggets aren't really chicken, 188 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 2: and my dad would get very upset and say, they 189 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: are absolutely one hundred percent chicken. I can show you 190 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: do not believe that BS. That is all rumors, It 191 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 2: is not true. So I kind of have that line 192 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: of thinking when it comes to what someone might say 193 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: flippantly about their company's products. But it's hard not to 194 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: at least consider what this guy is saying and investigate 195 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 2: perhaps what might be going on. But we did get 196 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 2: some very specific and strong language from Campbell's soup company. 197 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: As you might imagine, they really felt the need to 198 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: respond to this, and we'll tell you what they have 199 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: to say about what their employee, their executive said on 200 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: a secret recording, and we'll let you be the judge. 201 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: Continuing our conversation about what is in your Campbell's soup? 202 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: Can do you feel comfortable consuming Campbell's soup? You're not 203 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: a big soup guy anyway. 204 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had soup of 205 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: any kind, even when I'm sick. I won't even eat 206 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: chicken noodle. So when did I have soup last? I 207 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: never liked the tomato soup with the cheese, the cheese. Oh, 208 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: the grilled cheese, grilled cheese sandwich with the tomato. 209 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: Best comfort food ever, grilled cheese tomato soup. So it's funny. 210 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: I haven't had a lot of soup since you and 211 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: I have been together because you don't like it. And 212 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: I will get French onion souper around you, but it's 213 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 2: not like I make it in the house. I used 214 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: to make potato soup. I used I love, love, love 215 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: love butternut squash soup. I love all of it. And 216 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: I will tell you Campbell's growing up. I can whittle. 217 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: I can just say exactly the soups I loved because 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 2: this was a big product in our house. And I 219 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: will say we we were definitely cutting coupons and all 220 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: of that. So to what he was saying perhaps could 221 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: be true. But chicken noodle, bean with bacon, that was 222 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: my absolute favorite. Bean with bacon, soup, French onion soup, 223 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: cream of mushroom. Oh, I love. 224 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: Wait, cream of mushroom. You just eat it? Yes, I 225 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: thought it was only using dishes. Oh God, no, I 226 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: ate that cream of mushroom. 227 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: I loved it, delicious, salty. What do you mean? I'm 228 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: I sure, yes, I ate cream mushroom soup. 229 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: It's just a soup. 230 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: Yes. Then there's cream of broccoli. There's like broccoli and cheddar. 231 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: I used to eat those soups. I mean it was 232 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: something that we probably ate in my house growing up 233 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: at least twice a week. Wow, I mean that is 234 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: how much we ate campbell soup. So anyway, Campbell's has 235 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: had a lot of work this week. Their PR department 236 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: has been on overtime on a holiday week. I'm sure 237 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 2: they're really excited. Really did them in? Look? I have 238 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: seen my dad deal with recalls and other food safety 239 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 2: issues while We're on vacation, and when these kinds of 240 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: stories break, it is all about like managing managing the headlines. Obviously, 241 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: making sure your product safe is the most important thing. 242 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: But this is a huge pr disaster on a holiday 243 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 2: week for Campbell Soup. 244 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: This isn't a product issue. This isn't a safety of 245 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: your product issue at all. This is just somebody who's 246 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: put into the minds of America that your product is 247 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: no good, it's healthier. You're hiding something about. 248 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: It during a week where people are using your products, 249 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 2: probably more than ever. That's the thing I'm telling you. 250 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: Campbell's soup cans are staples and cast roles. Cast Roles 251 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 2: are staples on Thanksgiving tables period across it. So this 252 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: is huge. So Campbell Soup said this, if accurate, the 253 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: comments in the recording are unacceptable. They do not reflect 254 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 2: our values and the culture of our company. We are 255 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 2: actively instigating this matter. So that was probably about the 256 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 2: Indian slurs that were said. Then this about the food. 257 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: The comments heard on the recording about our food are 258 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: not only inaccurate, they are patently absurd. We use one 259 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: hundred percent real chicken in our soups. The chicken meat 260 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: comes from long trusted USDA approved us suppliers and meets 261 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: our high quality standards. All of our soups are made 262 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 2: with no antibiotics ever chicken meat. Any claims to the 263 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: contrary are completely false. And they did add this one 264 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: last bit. The person alleged to be speaking on the 265 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: recording works in it and has nothing to do with 266 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: how we make our food y. 267 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: I like that last note. This guy don't know what 268 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: he's talking about. We don't even let him in a lab. 269 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: But he is the chief information security officer. So if 270 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 2: your chief information security officer doesn't know anything about your food, 271 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: that's another problem in and of itself. 272 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: Consider it this way, how much do you think the 273 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: it guy at networks we worked at are up on 274 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: how the sausage of the news is made and decisions 275 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: are in the newsroom. That's a total separation. Isn't it 276 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: possible that he is totally out of the loop without 277 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: a doubt? Then why is he? What is he think? 278 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Because he's trying to sound like a funny, cool guy. 279 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: You know, you can kind of see it. Who knows, 280 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: maybe he had popped an edible right. 281 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: What you listened to it? How did he sound. I mean, 282 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: he just. 283 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Sounded like he was trying to be too cool for school, 284 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: and he was a little angry. Maybe he was a 285 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: little bitter about something. Who knows, someone rubbed him the 286 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: wrong way. He popped an edible. He got this like, 287 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: I know, it's not liquid courage, it's gummy courage whatever, 288 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: And he just thought he was going to show off 289 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: and spout out all this stuff and be the big 290 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: man on campus. I don't know. 291 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a scenario. 292 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: That's a scenario. Well, but this has real life implications. 293 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: Florida's Attorney general said he and he said, I will 294 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: shut down well, I will shut down Campbell's soup any 295 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: violator of the state's law on lab grown meat. So 296 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 2: they have officially launched an investigation into Campbell's in the 297 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: state of Florida. 298 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: Damn. 299 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: And he said this was his He put this out 300 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: on x This is Florida Attorney General, James uf Meyer. 301 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: He said, we don't do the fake lab grown meat 302 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: here in Florida. We'll enforce the law and shut it down. 303 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: So that is where things stand in Florida. So their 304 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: state's Consumer Protection Division is launching an investigation. I mean 305 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: that is that's very I don't know that the Garza 306 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: had any idea. He just probably wants to win his lawsuit. 307 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: He said it took him ten months to get his 308 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: job another job. He said, this really was a significant 309 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: hardship for him to be fired without cause. And man, 310 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 2: the implications are far reached. 311 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: O Florida is telling Campbell's you don't you don't have 312 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: access to the third fourth most populous state in the nation. Yeah, 313 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: taking that that's money. This is huge. Now they're going 314 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: to be able to prove I would guess I. 315 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 2: Would think they would too. But I just think like 316 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: that legitimizes the seriousness potentially of these allegations, or at 317 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: least what this man is saying for folks who are 318 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 2: again reaching in the grocery store aisles to pick what 319 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 2: they want to put in their food for Thanksgiving. I 320 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: think this could give a lot of folks pause. 321 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: It lends credibility for doing this, lends credibility to his 322 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: words that we have to at least look into it. Wow, 323 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: this was Yeah, you were you were on one about 324 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: this story for the past couple of days. 325 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 2: Because I love Campbell's soup and have since I was 326 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: as young as I can remember. So this is a 327 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: big deal. This is not over. Clearly, this story is 328 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: going to continue and we will follow it for you. 329 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: But you know what, y'all, enjoy your Campbell's soup infused 330 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: cast rules like I will be doing on this Thanksgiving Bess. 331 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: Not a castlerole guy, you know, I'm not a castlele guy. 332 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: But it's good. The country potato bake with corn flakes. 333 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: On top, corn flakes on a casserole. 334 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: It's delicious. 335 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: Raisins in there too. 336 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't, actually I don't like raisins in my casseroles. 337 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: But people do that. 338 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: Some people do all right without everyone. Thank you for 339 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: listening to us. I may be Robock alongside my castle 340 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: role love and fiance DJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.